Hangin' With The 'Boys: Kickoff Approaching

Let's go. Let's go, man, let's go. Man. You know just what I'm thinking, Kurt, He's coming. It's coming coming into the foe. But that's just what I think Kurt is coming into the foe. Ask a doctor before listening. Ask a doctor, what is chuckles, Douglas. Get it together, man, it's on loop and I didn't see it. Yeah, quit fat fingering it. I know just what I think. Kurt is in the foe. Just when I think he see you, just when I think he's on board, he's on board

with the program. He drops the ball. Got to put him back down to the back to spot the smell is in the air. There's a lot of smells that have generated from you. I don't know for sure. We're talking about good comeback. Well, we've got a new lineup this week. Yes, sir, we lost the player. We did, we lost the teammate. Josh will no longer be joining us. He had a with us moving to the new time to accommodate players with the open locker room. He was

not able to accommodate the schedule. So it's you're stuck with me and Kurt and Nate. Yes, from here on out. Ye, Josh will miss you, buddy. Hopefully we can get him on every once in a while. I'm busy, Bud bart and I can passion to somebody else if you want, But it's us. You're stuck with us. So no player today, no player tomorrow, as we have a Dallas Cowboy State of the Union address that we have to go to tomorrow. Kurt, at what time the State of the Union address is

twelve thirty to three? And pinning your schedule, I'm you're good, all right, we'll be We'll be three thirty tomorrow and then we'll be back at our regular schedule. Time to say, uh is it triple X? Which one is it? This time. It's two Triple X, is right? What you talk about? The Vin Diesel movies? Yeah, Van Deeson. Then it was the Brother Oh I didn't. I didn't know which way you were going with that. I thought you were having flashbacks of our Tampa conversation man last week. No, it's

it's two of them, ice Cube and Van Diesel. Which which state of the Union? Oh, I don't know. I'm not I'm not down with those Triple X movies. Okay, there's a couple of others I could probably chime in on, but not those two. We don't want to go down there now we can. We might later, so we'll try to get a player on maybe Thursday, and see where it goes from there. But football, football, football, And something

very interesting happened this weekend. We have a fifty three man roster, Fellas, we've been talking about it for weeks and weeks and weeks, and I have it here, made me a copy. He made me a copy of and Nate has a copy, and Kurt has a copy, and I want to just go through this position by position. I don't think there were any huge surprises. Probably the biggest, the biggest surprise happened about I don't know an hour officially an hour ago. We'll get to that, and that's

at the quarterback position. But let's start and let's just kind of go down the line. Here. We've got the official list from our PR department, and let's just go down how they have it listed. Okay, I'll tell you the position. I'll us off the players, and then let's discuss if any of this surprises us, if we would have rather seen some other moves, or just your overall feelings about this. Rosters that sound good, fellas, Yes, sir, Okay, how about you, Kurt? Yes, well, we're gonna need you

to We're gonna need some more a Kurt. We got rid of Josh. We need some more a Kurt. Don't even be like surly and no, no, we no. I think Josh had his place and we're going in a positive direction. Okay, just turn it up to eleven, Kurt, just need more still our stats guy, but we need more,

all right? Okay? Wide receiver, Yes, sir, we have Dez Bryant on one side, Cole Beasley and Terence Williams your other two, backed up by Bryce Butler, Ryan Switzer and Noah Brown, and I know we had had Andy Jones in that conversation. He didn't make it. Noah Brown, we kind of had talked about what we thought maybe the upside was there with Noah that Andy's kind of had his chance and the lights may have been too big for him. Does anything surprise you guys at the wide

receiver position? You know when when when the other day we did a fifty three man and I you know, I'm a firm believer and Brown won it straight up, he beat Andy out. I mean, you know a lot of people, well he was injured. Well, you know what, guess what, that's nature, that's nature the beast. Uh congratulation or Brown? You know, congratulation Andy. I hope, hope something is out there for you. Brother. Were you as surprise at all that Andy didn't get put on the practice squad? Nah? Nah? Nah?

Sure just didn't show enough. Yeah. Oh and see if anybody picks him up. Yeah, the thing is what you gotta do is and and it ain't like when I played, you know, because I got a couple opportunities before I landed on my feet. And I hope he does too. But you know, it's always somebody new coming It's always somebody better than made light. You know, every year is you know what you want? You know, when you walk into a bakery, you know you have the day old bread over to the side of half price and you

got the brand new fresh bread. Why did you steal the brand new fresh bread? Sell more? Everybody wants to news it's fresh, Yeah, says here. Andy Jones has been claimed by the Texans. There you go. It's not a bad move, man. It's nothing wrong with the old donuts though. It's nothing you know, especially if you're sitting in a

police calling occurred man's coffee, you know what I'm saying. Well, it's interesting they let Andy Jones go, didn't put him on the practice squad, but they did put Lance Lenore, which I'm not real shocked by that because I felt like they gave him a ton of opportunities and he did okay with them. You know, he had that what that muff punt or that fumble punt um on the road? What game was that? Where were we at Corlisum? Yeah? Right, La. But they kept putting him in in situations and maybe

they haven't seen enough of him. So he's there. Andy's apparently in Texas. I was surprised that Leanor so pronounced him. He was the only one that fielded a punt for the Cowboys in the preseason. I would think that'd be a time they'd be trying out guys, but a guy that they really wanted to try. Yeah, Switzer was there there. They already know he's the man or Beasily or Beaz or whoever. So I guess yeah, but still I thought they'd throw it Andy Jones, somebody out there, just see

what else you could do. Maybe they have maybe maybe they have that set, and they're like, apparently, maybe there's only one guy we don't want to eat the other three getting hurt. Throw this guy all right. Wide receiver brook was Noah Brown, though he's got to be one of the on the bubble guys when those suspension guys come back. Though, right, wouldn't he be candidate for maybe getting bumped. If he does, he'll go straighty a practice squad.

But I'll tell you what, if they throw him some balls and he performed in the game, somebody else maybe will get the chances. Yeah. Active at wide receiver, we'll see man, you know, we know he's the last receiver on the list. So, but they showed us him a lot during the preseason. They showed got comfortable with him. So what's the latest on Switzers? He I think you can be ready. I think he's I think he's gonna be ready. Yeah, I think that's what I've heard for

this week. You know what, Uh, we thought it would you know, they give our information a little more freely doing training camp because they figured it wasn't giving away nothing special. We would probably see a few guys dressed out. We're like, oh, I thought he was, you know, because they gonna hold it close to the vest. Now it's see it's season time, right, would you say anything? Would

you really tell anything? Now? You Friday, when they practice what he practiced, they didn't have to get a better indication, you know. But yeah, the only person they have official as officially as injured player is Anthony Hitchins. And I would imagine when is the injury report come out? The first one is usually on Wednesday, So I would imagine tomorrow will Yeah if if he's what probable doubtful, he's

gotta be doubtful. Yeah, yeah, so I imagine that god injured. Right, That's a great point nature it's it's it's go time. It's not giving out information free sir, getting out of the dig around. Man. Get a call from Britt Brown going what are you doing? Uh? You know, boss man, I gotta call it. You know this out boss man? Uh beard? Look here what we need from you every night? And then is you know, like broadest uh Mick, because especially gets here here you go, we just get his information.

Then he's out of here. All we want to mix information. He didn't come in and do a quick hit, you quick hit right, get out, let us go talk about it. I'm serious getting about of here, you know, because you're trying to glue itself to the sea. Hey, it's gonna be on your side of the table. Apparently, no out of here at the EJAC button. Yeah all right, yeah every nine days, just just a little rioting now if if the big dog Derek says okay, oh yeah, yeah, we call it out. We'll let you make that call

whenever you want to. Derek doesn't run this show. We run this show. This is a show for I don't put it on my shoulder. This is I'll take up the food chain. I'll take it. I'll take responsibilt me or your rather, let you go to see I can talk about Derek because he never listens to this show, so he doesn't care what happens on this show. All right, wide receiver, let's go to let's go to a running back, Yes, sir, And I'm and I think this might be when these

suspended guys come back. I think this might be where you see one of these one of these guys get get let loose. So running back, we've got twenty one Ezekiel Elliott, no surprise there, Deren McFadden, No real surprise there, Number twenty, number forty six Alfred Morris is listed as the third running back, and number forty five Rod Smith as the four worth running back, and then at fullback, Keith Smith. So you have four guys listed at running

back and a fullback. Does that surprise you guys at all? Nah? I mean, all of these guys play their way onto this roster, but none more than Rod Smith. I mean, and I want Rod to get like four special team tackles because everything he needs, Yeah, everything he does on special teams makes it where it comes down to him, to him and Noah Brown and whoever else we kept extra, you know. So I want Rod Smith to bill a

part of his team every week. I want him to be He may not be active every game, but I won't. I wants He's better than a practice squad player. He's way better than a p He's a guy that's deserving on this team. He's out right here and told you I want to make this team because I know I'm good enough to make it. He's proven. Then if you had to pick him or Morris, who would you take. It's a hard deal for me because I got a personal mistake in mars Man and don't make me do that.

I mean, yeah, General pad Nane, as hard as you well the thing the thing about Morris is as well. And in this preseason he did the same thing he did last year. He looked really good. But when he came into spell Zeke in the regular season, there was never he never had. He never looked quite as quick and except for that first game with the Giants when Zeke didn't look good and Morris did. But throughout the length of the season, Morris didn't look nearly as good

as he had previously. And I don't know what's up with that, because I based on what he had done in the preseason, I thought he might be better than McFadden, but he evolsd on his performance. I don't know. He's a volume guy, and uh, he's sharpen his skills. You saw him when he was even in a game with the backups. He's he did well. He he you'll see he'll do well this year. I think he hit a lull because and a lot of players said, no, I just I'm ready when they call me. Not when you've

been a starter all your life. Yeah, And I try to tell people, you know, as much as we want to be the tough mentally physical player, that I'm ready when they call me. That everybody the same. It's only a few guys that can bring that thing right off the bench, you know, at spot played and be ready when they call him. I think you'll see a better guy if something happened to Zeke, which I don't think

nothing should happen to Zeke. But if something happened to Zeke, then all of a sudden, he becomes McFadden in this role called McFadden becomes Zeke. So you'll see a better guy. I promise you, sharper, But but now just don't made me two between him and Rod If I'm going from just a football same point, Rod Smith is a more valuable player right now because he's he does more as

of today on special teams. Yes, do you think that was there anything telling by them not playing Rod with the with the twos and threes that that lasts or that or the ones and twos and threes that last preseason game that we saw him in. You know they held him so late. I think it was late third quarter or fourth quarter. Do you think they had their mind made up and they were like, we're good on this guy, or I think they just wanted to get after a lot of carrots because they what they was

trying to do. And smart thing by Jason and Steven, great way of thinking, where where we thinking, Hey, I'm thinking Zeke shouldn't played at all, But they like until they tell us that Zeke is out, we're gonna play it like we played it before, like we played it last year. We gotta get our guys who we think that we're gonna be feel comfortable giving the ball to as much as I want Rod Smith fan. Right now, you have a stable offensive line except for the left

guard that knows who they are. Now, you don't need a running back who you really don't know who he is. We know what he's shown us and what we think he can capable of in but we know what McFadden is and I promise you if you get Mars twenty five Carris, he gonna he gonna come out of the way more yards. And a lot of people think because he's a volume carrier, his his his speed don't change what you see in the first quarter, you're gonna see in the fourth quarter. But he's not. He's not gonna

get that many carries now, he's not. Is he worth having? Yeah? He isn't until until Zeke, until the establishes what Zeke is gonna be and how he's gonna do it. Because we'll get to that in a minute. There's some some kind of new news that's coming down the pipeline that they I think they're Kurt will let you chime in a minute, where they're gonna have some kind of ruling handed down about three o'clock, I believe, right after we get off the air, So we'll jump into that. DEMI interruptionate,

go ahead, No, No, I'm through, man. I just think you know it's two or three guys that I like and I call him performance guys. You know, I didn't start out liking nor Brown nor Brown one as well onto this team, Rod Smith, I didn't know him a lot of about him. I saw him last year and then he looked quick footed. I see this year. This guy is a different guy. He won his well onto this team, and I just hope he can stay. Yeah. All right, let's move to another skill position, and then

we'll get into Nate's favorite group, the offensive line. After that tight end Jason Witton, James Hannah, Jeff Swaim, and then Rico is going to be placed on the the IR to start the season, which I don't think any of that's a big surprise other than, you know, Rico, than putting him on IR because of an injury late in the preseason. But um, I think we all thought they were going to keep at least three tight ends.

With Rico moving to IR, that just kind of makes that a no brainer that you keep those guys and slide him over. Any surprises there to you, guys? Nah, Nah, Kurt, what you feel about that? No? I think if those guys stay healthy, that's that's a good tight end group. Let's I put them up against most any group out there. Ye, all teams. You know, one team in the league kept five. I can't think who it is. Tampa Bay kept five

tight ends. Let me let me tell you what. Let me tell you what what two good tight ends can do? Let alone three or four or five? You got two good tight ends? I say, we got Jason Whitten. Are you talking again? Yeah? Yeah, with both guys. We got Hannah Sway as the h back, Jason Whitten and Handah on the edges? Where your strength at? Tell me your strength? We side you're gonna say, right side of lest side of strength? Strength, right strength? What you're gonna do? They're

equal both sides. Now when you can't play, to play, and we got two receives, two wide receivers that can catch. What three that can catch? But we got one that can really catch? What did you do? Now? You gotta now? You gotta now you as a defensive coordinity like old boy h we still gotta bring eight up in the box because they show enough showing the strength to run. But these guys can also run routes. Right, That's that's

what New England's made. A mad sir, you think we'll see more of that than because they when they drafted Escobar, however, that was the route they said they were gonna go, We're gonna do this too tight end thing, and obviously that didn't work out. You think we're gonna see more of that then this show? Oh yeah, yeah, Sway is way better. Hannah is way better. Hannah is that unsung hero that nobody respects but but the coaching staff and the players. I always thought he could be a better

receiver given the chance. Well you don't. Everybody don't have Jason Witten. That's true, right, So uh oh man, I'm telling you that's a good situation. That's that's a good situation. And now and then, and see, mister Gathers Rico, if you just ever give a effort of knowing your assignments. Now, he's on injured reserve because of that concussion. Right, he's on injured reserve because he's not ready yet. Yeah, you can take it for whatever it's worth. Exactly, that's not ready.

It was a conveniently time to concussion to stand the longest concussion on the biggest cat I ever seen in my life. All right, let's move let's move on to Nate's favorite position, to talk about I think we talked about this every single day in some form or fashion drink, and I didn't bring it up everything. No, Nope, that a lot of that was on me. A lot of that was on me the offensive line. So at center, No surprises there. We've got Travis Frederick back up. He's

got a new nickname today Man. That's man backed up. You have a reality show backed up by he talks live Mountain Man from Duck Dynasty if you've ever seen it. Yes, Um, Travis Frederick backed up by Looney Tunes. Looney Tunes, Um Tyrn Smith. That you're left tackle mechanic. There we go, No surprise there, um, right tackle. You got Lyle backed up by Byron Bell. Ain't got one for Lyle yet. Now we need to get one when need get him on the show and work. Yeah, I ain't got one

for Byron Bell. I'm not sure he'll ever get one from me. Right guard. You got Zack Martin, Yes, sir, we got a president. Baby. There you go if the President also backed up by Byron Bell. And then the most in one of the most intriguing positions, probably the most intriguing position on the team, backed up by Stephen Jones and and coach Garrett's comments this week, left guard Chaz Green, backed up by Jonathan Cooper, is official on the depth chart, but we don't even really know who

who's gonna start on Sunday and it's already Tuesday. How do you guys feel about that? Isn't this one of the most the positions that you need? And Nate, you you talk to this because you played offensive line. Don't you need some time to gel and know who's gonna be on the other side of you? Or is that overblown? They think they gave enough reps to Cooper and Chad

at the left guard. But excuse me, sir, what I would do personally, you know, and I'm not the coach, and so please don't be texting them over saying, Nate Newton said, emailing, whatever you do, I will put Cooper there and let it letting rock and roll there and trying to Chads Green one hundred percent because if he's not one hundred percent, I don't need him falling out

of the game. And now that puts a bill at you know, swing everything right about now you can have Chad Green as the backup swing tackling guard and have Joe Looney. Now you got your seven guys that you can have active as an old line, you know, versus versus it. I don't want Cooper. They may think Cooper is a backup guard and center then and then put Bail, you know, and I don't like that backup situation more than I do the other backup situation. Now, can Luney

play more than just center? Yeah, Luney can play guard. He can play both the guards. Okay, it's Bill gonna be the swing tackle. Then on the rights on the left side. Uh yeah, you put Chad Green as the side and left guard. Then he's both. He's he's he's covering both tackles and possibly one of the guard spots. Surely they know who's starting now. They may not have told us, but they knew he's gonna be in the left guard. I mean, he's sure, he's been out there

the first team. But what Nate said about his health has to maybe be the key factor. That's why I would think Cooper's got to be the guy right now, because I was hur again, I got, I got, I got. I won't come as as the Beard said, I want continuity and the Cooper gives them that right off the bat. No questions asked whether you drunk pure leaf green tea or you drunk orade or another. Yeah, all right, awesome. And the last were you surprised Bell seemed like he

was a little bit on the bubble? There were surprised at all that him. No, they they want to be comfortable. They want to be comfortable. That means guys that have five years experience. He's done. He's done it before in game situations. You know, you don't want to just put a guy in there. They haven't had game situations. He's as bad as he may have looked in practice. They know in a game he has played and he's in better shape now than he's ever been in his career

wight wise. So he's healthy. So that's what they're banking on, is that, Okay, we've seen him in a game that same with Alfred Mars over rods him. They know that what Alfter Mars is they've seen it twice a year for the last six seven years before they got him here. It's a trust factor. They'd rather have someone in there that that's done it before that they can trust, rather than someone that's got a huge upside, that's not you know, got the experience that just telling. Moore's the poster boy

for that exactly. Well, on the practice squad that kept three guys that are listed as guards and no tackles, Kadeem Edwards, Dan Skipper and Nate Thinker. So are some of those guys gonna work at tackle or is there a reason why? I mean, I'm a little surprised that they don't have a tackle on their practice as all of them is made a team Jazz Green. Yeah, you know, I hate to say this. I mean, well, the Cowboys struggled every year to get in quality offensive linement, which

every team does. But this year here what it was thin, especially by everybody being able to keep ninety up until the last cut. It was very very thin. I know. I heard they were big on on Skipper as far as his work ethic and how smart he is, and he's got the attitude, his attitude. Yeah, I think Colombo loved him. Yeah, you know what, that's a good point. He is Colombo with hair, He's tall, he's probably too tall to be off limeman, but he's he's got it.

He's got a mean streak in him. So we'll moving on to the final position on the offensive side of the ball. They kept Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush, they let Kellen Moore go, and then right before we went on the air, they resigned him. And he's listed as your number two quarterback on the depth chart. Yeah. I think that was the plan all along, because they knew that Rush wouldn't make it through. Rush wouldn't make it through.

And I don't know the whole rules of it all the NFL, but because he was a veteran, more couldn't be claimed or something like that, so he would have to I get to offer him a job. I guess he'd have to be like a free agent, and so they they obviously had a deal already in place. Then you were going to bring him back. This allowed them to get gathers to the I R and keep him and keep keep rushing. Why why you just said, because he's a veteran's they trust him, They feel comfortable with him.

Some of them do well, which don't. Which of them don't, Kurt Well, I think there's others in the building that probably don't, but they're not making the call. Ye, But interesting, it is interesting. I think it's great they give Rush more time to develop. I mean, it hurts you a little bit because you know you might lose Noah Brown later on down the road because you're keeping Rush. But hey,

good for them. They figured out. I mean, after losing guys over the years like More and Darius Jackson and people, they figured out a way to kind of game the system and keep both guys they wanted. Yeah, And don't get me wrong when I say why, Look, those guys are a lot smarter than me and know a lot more about football than I do. And obviously there's a reason why he's still here. And I don't know what goes on in those meetings. I don't know what goes

on in practice. After the first twenty minutes that they let people out there, it just to me it seems like, you know, you've seen what he can do in a game. It was it was okay, it was probably better than the other two backups she had two years ago. But I almost wonder if there's a quarterback out on the street that that is proven, that has, like we said, has done it before, that gives you more, you know what you've gotten more and Kelling Moore that that gives

you more. But obviously there. They've they've kept him around for a reason, and he's back for another year at least for now. So it's strangely quiet. He is so quiet, like it's it's like, I just his last name makes me think it should be more. But that's into that story. Moving on to I talked to uh Cooper Rush's father recently did a story on him, and needless to say, their families very excited, really in surprise. Where's he? Where's he?

I know he went to what Central Michigan. Yeah, he's from nearby Lansing, Michigan, and I grew up there, set all kinds of state records. Yeah, we need to get him on the show. Maybe there you go. That's who would be who will try to get on this week? That sounds like an interesting story. How big Central Michigan. It's d one, but it's one of those mid level conferences and makes northern Illinois and all of that, right,

M Florida A and M Florida. Anyway, let's take let's take a let's take a quick little break, pay some bills, and then we'll jump over to the defensive side of the ball and see if there were any surprises there. When we come back. We the entertainment loving people to man the best unlimited wireless plan ever from ATNT. What else do you want? Are you un Maybe? Only at and T offers you unlimited data with HBO included and

never payoverages. Get ATNT Unlimited plus our best wireless dealer Unlimited data plus save twenty five dollars per month on direct TV. It's entertainment. You're way after twenty two kiddys to dat Us and TAMA Slow Speeds plan includes stream saving videos, will stream and stand definition unless you're turn it off. Twenty five dollars dirt TV savings across AT

and T Unlimited plus credits start within three bills. Service prices suchet to change over usage, speed fees, charges and restriction supplies The att dot com slash unlimited for details. Hey Cowboys fans, did you know that over the next few years, more than a million service members will transition

from military to civilian life. Veterans face unique challenges when they get out of the military, and Bank of America and the Dallas Cowboys are teaming up to help with financial education, career opportunities, and support of military nonprofits and organizations locally in North Texas and across the country. We're proud to support our troops and are deeply grateful for the dedication and sacrifice of our service members and veterans.

Bank of America Official Bank of the Dallas Cowboy. It invites you to join us in our efforts to get involved by tagging game day photos on social media using hashtag troop thanks. That's hashtag troop thanks, and by learning more about our commitment to veterans at Bank of America dot com slash Military Support. Together, we can thank our troops in ways that make a real difference. Copyrank, twenty sixteen,

Bank of America Corporation. It's bowling night with brands and you're hanging down together, up us better, but you're craving something better, but they're fust defenside. You don't know what to do. The same. You to believe doctor Pepper, when Pepper, when you crave a doctor Pepper, nothing else will do. Pick up an ice cold twenty ounce bottle today, Doctor Pepper on your grave. I hear all this talk about

what it takes to be a cowboy. Everyone's got their ideas, But I just say to myself, it's what's up top that matters. Sure, you need men with the muscle and heart to get her done. But if your scouts and coaches are listening out there, a word of advice. Picked them in with the most well worn stetson. That's the one most cut out to be a cowboy. Stetson hats are handmade right here in Texas and have been on

cowboys heads for over one hundred and fifty years. The rest of you can visit stetson dot com slash cowboy to find a retailer nearest you. Back to hanging with the boars, and we're back with the new little intro music. Shout out to computer computer put this together the cowboy computer appreciate a computer And Kurt, Yes, you would love to talk about the talk about I have mine on today? Boy do you? Yeah? You keep saying you're gonna show us. You know you're gonna stand there with no pants and

that's okay, Sure I'll do. I'll do the last segments with no drawers on it. Tommy John's best pair of you everywhere, It's free guarantee. May sound like a bold statement, but once you experience their mind blowing underwear for yourself, you understand why plus shop exclusive Cowboys underwear at Tommy john dot com Forward Slash Cowboys for twenty percent off your first order Tommy john dot com. Forward Slash Cowboys M so good in my pants right now. Oh you're

so excited today. I'm excited because it's football, man. That's right on regular season. We've been here. You didn't grind it out at training camp for four weeks like me and Nate. You came in the last three days. Hey, I'm here. Where's Pelf? Hey he was working here at the Star. I can attest to that. Yeah, whatever, All right,

let's jump back into this roster special teams. No surprises there, Chris Jones, Dan Bailey LP, and then they have listed at kick returner kickoff returner Ryan Switzer as well as punt returner. And then your second string kickoff returner is listed as Jordan Lewis and Cole Beasley is your punt returner. I Sware. Garrett said in his press conference yesterday that Rod Smith would be the second kick returner if Switcher

can't go and be rod Well. I got I got a bad list from PR Then I hope that's true. Keep brought around to two defense Let's get into this because I know there may be some Uh we talked a lot about the defensive line, so let's save that for last. Let's get into free safety. Byron Jones is listed as your number one and Xavier Woods is listed as your number two, and then it's strong safety. They have Jeff Heath listed as your number one and Cavon

Frazier as your number two. Surprise there, good with that? Was it any surprise at all? The Blanton didn't make the cut. It wasn't for me. Huh, you know, I will see him out there a lot. They gave him a lot of opportunities. A lot of guys. You know, when they give you a lot of opportunities, they trying to say, Okay, what we saw in college is translating here to the pros. Let's give him every opportunity. Because every time they had an injury or somebody wasn't practicing

on a certain day, he was that guy. And uh, you know, I didn't see a lot of plays in training camp. And did he play in the games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he played. I was surprised just because going back to the trust and veteran, you know, he's been there before. He's got six years, five years seasons in the league. I thought they might keep around just for a little

experience back there. But obviously he didn't cut it, and they Jamil Showers made it back to the practice squad again as yeah, say safety, So he's back for another him and they had him around for two or three quarter because he's switched from quarterback to safety. He's a very very athletic guy. They want they want that guy. They they they want that guy. They really do. They must really like his makeup or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

I'm with you on that court. Yes, you know. With with Jeff Heath, they've got kind of a tradition that goes from Keith Davis to Burry Church Jeff Heath where they found just a guy and developed him into a guy that they're comfortable making a starter after after three or four years. Because three or four years ago, if you'd have said Jeff Heath was going to be a starting safety on this team, cowboy fans would have quit. They would Yeah, that's it. I'm not rooting for this

team anymore. But he's a you know, and he worked his way up by being a special team's stud and learned the position and and got better at it every year. And now as you're starting free safety. Yeah, yeah, what do you have? Like nine starts his rookie season because he injuries and he just he wasn't very good. Oh, Jeffrey caught that pass up in Chicago right before halftime and it was basically Heath was there and he didn't time his jump worth anything. Uh, even though it was Sean,

Jeffrey was pretty good. I think people he got off to a bad star. But you're right, he's over the years, he's grown and learned the position and made a name on special team. So hopefully he's ready for the starting role. Yeah, a lot of interceptions last year. Now, I would have liked to have seen Sammy Seemster are hanging with the Boys' own Sammy Seemster and some capacity be around, but didn't make it onto the practice squad. So moving on to cornerback.

So at cornerback we have Nolan Carroll, Anthony Brown, and Orlando Scandrick as your starters, which I don't think there's any surprises there, And then we have Boune. I don't even know how to pronounce. This guy's been a wickery hanging with hoops, what I thought that was something else. I thought it was my Shannon hosting drop and it wasn't. Oh thanks, thanks for your I'll find it Jordan Lewis and she do as your backups. Any surprises there not really? Nah. No,

I have a social media question to White. But he made it to the practice squad. Yeah, Marquez White um did make it through to the pack practice squad at Cornerback as our social media director. What was the significance of Scandric's tweet with the X. That's a great question. I don't. I don't. Orlando has very cryptic um social media posts. But you did see that. I did see that sat and I thought, Okay, that's means something. But I don't know what it means. Maybe X and out

all the haters. I don't know. He had a hoodie on that he was kind of looking out from underneath it, so I'm not real sure. He he does a lot of very cryptic stuff, so there's no telling what we should get to the bottom of that. Yes, we'll let you ask him. I'm good. I don't mess with Orlando. Orlando's Orlando's a super smart guy. Is I just feel like he doesn't want to have anything to do with social media, So I just unless he does social that's right, right,

that's right. Good point. Uh, let's move to linebacker position. We have your starters listed as Damien Wilson, Anthony Hitchens, which is injured, Sean Lee, backed up by Kyle wilberd Jalen Smith, Justin Durant. In a recent signy jay Ron Elliott from Green Bay, I believe, yeah, yes, yep, that was a guy that traded for someday yep. What do

you think about that? I think they needed with Hitchens out, they needed that little bit of depth, and he's got what He's in his fourth year, he's got some experiences. He never w He wasn't a star by any means in Green Bay, but he gave him depth. I think he had forty something tackles and four sacks in his four years. So I don't know. You tell I mean, Nate, I mean he ran up three to four. It sounds like up in Green Bay. Now he's going to four three? Is that gonna well? He's just I think he's a

stand up guy too. He can get off on the edge. So that's what I read. So I don't know a lot about him, So so I get a little information on him, and it's for seeing him with my eyes and what he could do, because if if everything works, he may not see the field. On one special teams Nate with with Hitchens, hurt Is, Jalen Smith. Gonna is he gonna start? I cannot answer that. I would not start him, you know, but I wouldn't, but you know I would give him some plan time. Would you move

Durant starting with Sean Lee? Is that how you would do it? Or? But the thing is the guy that's gonna be justin Durant, It's got to be justin Durant, in the middle, in the middle. Yeah, you get the kids some snaps here now, But I don't know what they feel about him. Maybe if they feel the leg is one hundred percent and ready for sixty s apps or fifty snaps or forty whatever the number is. They said, well he ready for forty snaps. Uh, he just needs

to build some endurance with us. So we got a plan. So I don't know what they're where they're thinking over there, But what I saw on film cartoon character let's keep baby tapping. Let me ask you this, Nate, do they have When you have a guy that's coming back from from injury like that and even though he's played, you know,

he's practiced, he's played in preseason. Do the trainers put do they go to the coaches and say, I think he's ready to play X amount of snaps at game speed and and do you put like a pitch count on that guy and say, okay, when he gets to twenty five snaps, we've got to We've got to pull him back. Or do they just like let him go till he gets tired and then he tells them taps his helmet says I need out. How does that work? Now? You know it's happening for helmet and that's something that

went wrong. Uh. He they get with the coaches and they discuss, you know, whether you think he's at what are you thinking? And everybody putting cabs the input, and then the head coaching trainer along with the general managers say hey, okay, let's trying to this snap count. If he looks weary before that, you know, because they'll be keeping an eye on him, not so much as the coaches, but as the trainers. I'll be kind of keeping an eye on him, you know, if they feel like, hey,

we need to get this guy here. He's ineffective. You know, I watched him. He's getting bold over. He can't get to a play. Let's let's get him out of here. So Brittain, those guys were, but the coaches you see, like, hey man, he's a big old fullbacks just ran away from him. That is some dark humor right there. Let's go to the last position, the defensive line. And I don't know if there's really any huge surprises here, but we've got starting across the front, Tyrone Crawford, Malie Collins,

Nate's guy, Stephen Paya, and then DeMarcus Lawrence. And we've got those guys backed up by Taco Charlton, Brian Price, which is another recent acquisition, Benson Mayowa, and Charles Tapper. Any anything jump out to you there? And Nate as far as who didn't, Nah, sure didn't. And I just want to see what they w Tapper fits in this deal. We're surprised neither of the guys they drafted not even kept on the practice squad. Lewis Neil didn't make no, well, he was a he was a undrafted free agent guy.

But the two they drafted from Colorado and Ivy and Ivy and Ivy from Florida. Nah, man, you got it, Lewis Neil and Richard ashe are on your practice squad because they gotta these moves made with a critical because they do have to. Uh. In two weeks Dmitri Demntrey more or he'll be back, and then two weeks after that, David Irvan to be back. So they they I think they put the right guys on the practice squad, and I think they got the r They kept them guys

that can make a difference in the game. It's gonna be interesting when those two guys are back. Who's who's gone? I mean, I hate to see Tapper as a third string guy right now. He seemed like he had a good camp. But no, no, you don't think so. I thought you were impressed with him that they can't cut him right, saywhere I missed Ryan and put that ball on the street. They won't. I'll put him on the

practice squad. Somebody gonna pull let the get cat up out of them and he gonna get more of these is some third string you know, I look at him. They got him at third string. Please, what do y'all expect out of a healthy DeMarcus Lawrence good things for me because he was beat up pretty badly last year. He was playing hurt. Yeah, if he I wanted to be able to let side Deepensivan, I think he could be a force over that. I saw him in the U in the lunch room before before the show, and

he looks like he looks like he's at a good weight. Yeah, Like I've seen him where he's looked kind of heavy, but he looked he looked really he looked like he's pretty solid. So I wonder what Tyron Crawford's gonna do. Yeah, um, and they're saying he's gonna be ready for Yeah, he's supposed to be ready opening opening night here. But man, he's just every season he's played through injury, and you

gotta give him credit. He's tough. Um, I just don't know if he's ever made the full impact that expect. It seemed like a couple of years ago he was gonna be the break guy guy. They thought he could be a pro bowler. And he's just the shoulder and the foot and ankle. Now, I mean, and even hurt and make an impact, Yeah, even hurt he's been the guy that almost gets there, like, yeah, every play it

seems like he's he's still disruptive. Yeah, he should have had you know, two or three sacks, but he's missed it by you know, a foot or two. So Nate's laughing. What are you laughing at, Nate, because you couldn't. I mean, as much as we like this guy that he said it perfectly, he's been the perfect almost guy. Almost got there, great Russia. Speaking of almost, he just needed to finish.

And speaking of almost getting there, Um, your guy Mark Zacha is signed to the practice squad, but he actually gets there right, No, No, he don't, man, he gets there. Yeah right Wow. I just wanted to ya. Wow. And Blake Jarwin at tight end rounds out your your practice squad. So overall, really, I guess the two really glaring things from this roster. You know, this is kind of with a with the addition of a couple of guys that they picked up, really kind of what we thought it

was gonna look like. Um, Kellen Moore, you know, not Kellen Moore being cut and then winding up being resigned and being your number two guy now and then not really knowing Um, who's gonna start at your left guard? Which you know they may or may not know, but they're not saying that they know. Are really the two things that that kind of caught me off guard a little bit. Anything there any positions you thought they wudn't

light at? They need more? Nah, I mean Devin's line is what it is because there's just suspensions offensive lineman. If there's not a lot out there, you know, all in all, the team that could have very well been in the NFC Championship game last year is looking pretty good going into this season. Who's that? What team is that? The Cowboys? Yeah, I'm saying the only you know, only the only deal is only only true question mark. And it was a question mark the day that two corners left.

It's still the same question mark. That's true. It's corners and safety. There's still the same deal. To me. The Deva's blind has gotten better. Yeah, with Pea it has gotten better just by one player. It has gotten better by two players at Charles Tapper if he don't get Nick Dubba banged up, those two players automatically make us better. Now. People say, Charleston, I don't know about Charles, and I haven't seen him playing a real live game, but I

know just Tapper speed off the rock. He can be disruptive. Keep an eye on Charles Tapper. That's been that's been Nate's guy. He can be disruptive, man. I mean that type of speed first week of camp, So we're gonna keep an eye on that one. He also is one of his guys, Stephen Pie had worked his way onto this team in a starting position, so they had some good information. He knows what he's talking about, right. That's another that's that's a project left with three million dollars

down the table. Why isn't the scouting department cutting you a check? No? No, no, I go a by my eyes. Like I said, I liked it Andy Jones, but Noah Brown flat out played him. You know, I like m Alfred Mars. But at this time, Rod Smith, I think it's a viable option. I mean when you I like to see what a guy does in the game type situation. That's how I make my judgments. Yeah, you know, like like charging, he's not there yet, but ever since the

second game, you've seen a better player. Yep, you know it's just you know, like I said, I'm not one of them guys every Man washed the film. No, no, no, no. Everybody get the information how they get the information, And that's one of my ways we get gathering information. So you you like the game on Sundays is it's yeah, it's end result. You either you either do that with some consistency at a high level and that makes you anywhere from all pro to the best to a good

good player? Are you inconsistent? I don't know what we're gonna get. That makes you a backup player? Well, it's gonna be that can't play? Yeah, what do you call that? See Cedric Thorton, you have a nickname for those guys practice squad. Oh can't play? He's come join me on the on the couch, met hurt CP can't play? All right, Well we're gonna take another quick break, pay some bills. We'll go come back and talk a little bit about

Ezekiel Elliott. To work this big land, you need equipment with values rooted as deep in Texas soil as you are. Like John Deer compact tractors with a six year power training warrant to him. Big features that help you work less so you have more time to do what you love. John Deer was first in the Texas fields, and we're proud to be on the field as the official agg and turf equipment of the Dallas Cowboys. Find Texas sized deals and my John Deer Dealer dot com Slash Football Terms, Conditions,

exclusions and warranty limitations apply. Seem to love for details, We the entertainment loving people to man the best unlimited wireless plan ever from ATNT. What else do you want? Are you in a corner? Maybe? Only AT and T offers you unlimited data with HBO included and never payoverages. Get ATNT Unlimited plus, our best wireless deal and unlimited data plus save twenty five dollars per month on direct TV.

It's entertainment. You're right after twenty two Kids of Data USA and TAMA Slow Speeds plan includes stream saving videos, will stream and standard definition unless you turn it off. Twenty five dollars dirt TV savings across AT and T Unlimited Plus credits start within three bills. Serfvice prices subject to change. Other USAG speed fees, charges and striction supplies

The att dot com slash Unlimited for details. Star Sports Tours is the only official fan travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages with sideline access and photo ops with current players, alumni and cheerleaders. That's not all, though, You'll get to talk xs and oos with Senior Director of Player Personnel Will McClay and of course with yours truly me, Brian Broadest. You can trust the official fan travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys,

and with us, you'll travel like a pro. Visit Cowboys travel dot com to book your travel package today. Jack Black products are carefully formulated with the finest natural ingredients and proof and high performance skincare technology. You'll find these performance products in the locker room at the Ford Center and in the luxury suite set at and T Stadium.

Go to our website at get Jack Black dot com and check out all of our game changing products, including Beard Lube, our award winning shape cream, and Deep Dive Glycolic facial cleanser, a Men's Health Award winner. Again, that's get Jack Black dot com. Nothing complicated, nothing cosmetic, just superior skin. Kid back to hanging with the boys, and we're back live from the Star in Frisco. Kurt Daniels to my right, Nate Newton to my left, purely green

tea right in front of me. How you guys feeling man? Football? Football's Alcoall's alcohols right, Kurt? Yes, you still with us? Yeah? I'm doing good? Okay, all right? Make sure I know Douglas is with us because he keeps hitting the wrong buttons. Back to do the whole show. Production value of the Fingers Today. Production value of the show is questionable at West's at best. Critiquing is open season all that I know I sucked. Go ahead and said you were questionable.

I didn't say you sucked. It's okay, okay, thanks. We don't have a magazine to plug this week, do we care? No magazine, just the game day pus. It was Cowboys Star magazine but Dallas Cowboys Star magazine. But that still shows up on the cover when you do special Yeah yeah, we still trade market like market like that. But no, no magazine, no magazine. Thanks for bringing that up. You're welcome. Hey, you're still employed and you're on this show, so that's

a that's a big bonus. That's a big plus. Are you getting Josh's sixty bucks a week? No? Interesting? I noticed you asked for that I didn't get it either. Derek put the we we just lost the team member. I was in morning. Yeah, then all of a sudden, I see that pops over, Like, wow, greed takes over again. Didn't waste time? What is it? An underlying, underlying thing going on here all the while? Yeah, I thought that

was Kurt's budget. Anyway, if if that sixty bucks kind of made us way to Kurt, I think there's other factors, and I'm like, wow, man, we lost Josh Man. Yeah, just why did Josh war building up a rapport? Why did this time come up? I'm like why, No, No, the beard had we had a we had a text chain. Derek texted us and was like, hey, Josh is off the show. He's not gonna be able to work with the schedule around open Locker Room and and Nate's like, oh, I hate that we're losing Josh. And I'm just like,

can I have a sixty dollars an episode? Wow? Immediately, So I'm like, wow, no, civil Immediately there's a no that comes across. I'm like, ah, well, I drive vultures. I tried. So Kurt, There's been some developments over the weekend and the Labor Day holiday. A little update labor going on while we was wrestling. Labor is going on. Labor.

A little update on the on the Zeke. Everybody listening to this show probably knows already, but and I don't want to get a whole lot into it because I don't really There's so much going on, and I'm got tired head talking about this and hearing about it since last week. But just for the people that haven't heard earlier today, let him know what's what's developing. Well, there could be some big developments this afternoon. Um this Henderson guy, who's the what guy? This guy got that guy's faith

in his head. He disrespects him like that. This guy this clown. Sorry, mister Henderson. Only mister Henderson's still the verdict. But Nate, I'm pretty sure he doesn't listen to the show either. No, I don't listen to him either. That's why Derek doesn't share the numbers with you, because we only have like twenty two people that listen to this show. That's cool, man, It's twenty of them is my family.

Mister Henderson is the guy who heard um Zeke's appeal, and he has said that he's going to have a ruling this afternoon, could be any time now. You originally said three pm, and we're getting close to that. I don't think there's nothing that's binding him to that, but that's what he set himself for a deadline three pm central. Um. See, that's the question is is they going off Zeke's well,

the Cowboys three pm Central? Henderson I think technically said end of the day into the work there, but you can't do that because everything they does do is on a three o'clock when they shut down their headquarters. Yeah, so now you want to you want to change the rules. Now, if we were out in California with wouldn't that be the end of our work day, which is two hours behind, two hours behind. See, I'm sure the New York's Yeah, me too, he's coach. So it's probably three or four

we're looking at here. And then Zeke has his you know, they've already filed filed emotion that hearing is supposed to take place at five pm our time here today and that's too uh for a preliminary injunction against what the NFL is trying to do. So then the NFL has also filed a suit against that, so so they could technically, mister Henderson could come down with one verdict and within an hour or two later an injunction. An injunction could

be filed and which puts a hold on that verdict. Yeah, and then there's another assuming the assuming you think mister Henderson resents that situation, assuming the judge in the in uh Zeke's you know, hearing agrees with him, which everybody seems to think he will judge. Right, Yeah, it's it's Texas here, which is just north of Dallas. Just think

Sherman just was on with TV. That's weird though, because they and I don't know who the judge is, but it's a Texas judge, so you think he might be friendly. But why they I wouldn't assume a Texas judge is a friend of mine in labor court. Well that's apparently this judge is Judge Amos Bazant I guess okay. The third he's a friend of ladies apparently leans that way, so they say, and they filed it here and not New York because they felt they'd get maybe a little

home cooking on that front. But my question, you Kurt into you, dug, since you feel like you, you got you know, some legal knowledge. Get him, Nate, get him. Now that is legal. See now that the NFL let it become legal. And what I mean by that is by messing up your investigation, by doing it in the improper fashion, by not going by your process that you put in place, now you make it. You make it

a bad situation. So now you you when the courts read that, like, okay, you hire a lady to lead your investigation, to give her analogy, to put it on paper of her investigation, and she's not good enough. It was good enough for Hardy, it was good enough for the other guys, but it's not good enough for Zekee. So why would you Well, and I've been shot before, why would you rule another way? As a judge? Well,

that's the point of Elliot's cases, fundamental fairness. Yes, termin they're using that he wasn't given the proper due process I guess in the arbitration or whatever. Yeah, it's there are certain rights you cannot sign away, and that's what regardless of what the language of the CBA is. Well, see that's the sticking point. Some labor lawyers are saying, he's gonna have a very tough time proving that because the CBA does kind of outline that they gave Goodell

all the control pretty much. Yeah, so whatever he does, he hasn't like what Nate was saying last week is like, you gave him total control. You by signing that you allowed him to be able to do this without a kind of I'm sorry, but Zeke's lawyers will say he was in college at the time, he didn't have anything to do with uh that CBA when it was negotiated, and that's where it gets harried. But he joined the play, he did, But you don't. You don't don't try that one.

I shu that one. Now you can lead out along, but you don't come to a new job. So I'm like, oh, I wouldn't your verses. I want hear what y'all come home. I am saying that when I say there are certain rights you can't sign a way, I think that all kind of goes into that. If if when you're a college player, decisions are being made about your fundamental rights before you're even in the equation, that's part of what

you might bring to a judge. The bottom, and I'll go a little step further, is regardless of whether they reduce it or well, how would they do it? Zeke still admitting he did something wrong. Your your way of life may change due to this fact. So yeah, I'm wishing. I'm wish you one of you know on one aspect of what you're saying, Um, General Patton, but I used to be MacArthur. Yeah, one of them, but he's on HBO right now, General Padden. Oh cool, Yeah, I'll take that.

What are you saying, Kurt? I don't know. Okay, Well that's a good stop in. Kurt just gave up his life, got tired head trying to read all of this. Well, we'll be back tomorrow. Let's do three thirty tomorrow and I'll tell you what. Later this week, let's get into let's let's start working on these now. I don't know what day we'll do it, but let's do what we

think the Cowboys record is gonna be. We gotta do that, right, predictions, Yeah, let's do that, and let's let's predict where we think they're gonna end up in the UH, in the division and overall, let's have some fun with that. Later this week tomorrow. I don't know why we're gonna talk about, but I can talk about the New York New York's defense offense. Just pick one of them and let's let's

get involved. Okay. You know, we don't know where they're going offensive and defensive this early, but you know they lost, uh what Hankerson wasn't Hankerson the big big snacks whichever one they call. Yeah, one of them went to the Colts. So they lost a lot of people not talking about that. They were They had a great effective run game because they had two big, massive guys up front, and I think they lost one of them. Yeah, So y'all want to go into the defense tomorrow and what we think

of it? Uh, y'all want to go into the offense? I predict Nate's gonna need my printer. Yes, sir, we'll pick one of them. We'll pick one of them and we'll get into that tomorrow. We'll be a later date, three thirty. I'm gonna try to find a guy a where Tommy Johns would be more decisive. I'm decisive. Like I even put them out on the bed today and I was like, ah, do I wear these or my Tommy Johns. I'm we'll talk about him on the show. Today, So I'm gonna wear the Tommy Johns. I'm so anti committal?

Are you? Does Tommy Johns make you happy? Oh? Yeah? Why do you think? I was so ecstatic to be on the show today? It's football is in the air, and so Tommy Johns. Well for Kurt Daniels, Nate Newton, Douglas mc arthur Patton and Kent Garrison. That pushes all the buttons that make us go live. We appreciate you guys tuning in. I'm Shannon Gross. We'll be back tomorrow at three thirty. Bye. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.