Hangin' with the Boys: Keeping The Routine

and fellas. Before we start the show, our good buddy dedicated listener. I think he's from Canada, because at least that's what it says in his Twitter profile as he has the Canadian flag rador, sent me a text, sent me a tweet, and his tweet let me see if I can read it verbat him. Um, let's see, let me see if I can. I was excited about your dude from Canada, but now we don't even want to hear it. Brother, here it is Shannon. Hang the poster. Brother,

it's embarrassing you taking the poster out. You already said you have the equipment. I drop you in a second for the company that is paying you first off, Rador, thank you for your consideration. But I do not get paid one sent to do this podcast. Okay, except except free wings and free free donuts and free cookies. By the way, the cookies are coming tomorrow since there's no show on Friday. Disclaimer, we will not have a Friday change.

No showing, no show outside. Got start emails, really gotta start. This one was from the balls. This one was from the ball. This one was the ball Missus Jones. Well, if it's on Missus Jones, I get down because I got a certain ring film. I got a certain it's like, showed me the mine turning with it from that boss from I got the horns down for him. Okay, this little horse can't even win a homecoming game in the

virus yield come home with Texas. Okay, that he's made all and the and they're about to lose again, and they're about to lose again to day in basketball, I heard that from the counsel the game man at the end of the year. It's like when we were fin a boy out before we even be out, when you being the rankings next year. All right, So I don't I don't get paid by by the sponsor. But the sponsor helped keep us on the air that the organization

gets paid, So thank you for that. Wow. Secondly, I thought I was perfect, but I I don't have jobs and you to stop. N just stop. I didn't say, man, you used to touch my heart, but that was kind of hard. Yes, you, Nate, You and Jesse ain't doing this show for free. Why don't you? Why don't you for I am I am No, You're not doing this show for free. Man, No you're not. I'm doing the goodness of my heart for the people. The fans love one not true you put on you put up a

Twitter Paul. Yes, So there's here's the question, Raider. I am. I am thinking I am giving Wingstop more value by making that poster as pathetic as it looks with the duct tape on it. From the funt owned RV shows we did. It's an interactive part of the beginning of the intro of the show. Every show, I unroll it

and it becomes part of the show. If I hang it back here on the wall like Kurt and Jesse have done so kindly yes in the past, and even Nate at one point, it just becomes a static every time I get some wings, y'all knows I come up and yeah I do, Baby, I need to be sponsored. So my question is I put a poll out. Is it better for it to be in an interactive part of the beginning of the show like it is, or should I hang this on the wall and it it'd be like I said I was gonna do probably two

months ago, and I haven't gotten around to it. So there's a poll out there on hanging with the Boys Twitter I am. I will retweet it, you guys, let me know and whatever the results come back, I will either hang it or I will keep doing it like we have been doing for the past two or three months. Thank you Wingstop for the poster, Thank you for the food. And now the post is just the way you handle the post is the way you hand the cowboys in

one day? Yeah, one day. The poster is there every day, and like the Cowboys, the poster shows a certain amount of times you do the show every day for the cowboys. Do you think cowboys all day? Yes? Because I work and they employed me and that's what I get paid to do. Oh come on, man, all right, all right, let's get into the show. Go go vote, go, vote, I'll do whatever the voting says. Thank you Radar for calling me out. Okay, schedules all jacked up this week.

I thought there was a game last night. There's a game today. Our game has been moved twice. Now it's now on what day? Is it even on? Is it on Tuesday? Is that what it is? First time in Cowboys history they've had a game on Tuesday. Question for you guys, as players, how bad does that jack you up? Because if there's one thing I know about players and coaches and organizations is they are major, major creatures of habit. Everything happens at the exact same time. Trips are the

exact same, home games are the same. Your you know, your meetings are at the same time. And when it's altered a little bit, it messes with you. How bad does it mess with you as a player, these games, you know, league wide being shifted around like they are. I've never had to go through that, man, I've never had to go through that. So I know that. You know, you could set your clock by how coach Johnson and coach and coach y'all Landry done things, you know, during

the offseason and the season. But I never had that that shake up like that. Even when you're injured as a player, they have a regiment for you, So jess and making going into that a little bit more because once I started, you know, it went for so many years where it went until they changed coach coaches, and then he started his regiment. So I don't know how they feel, man, I really don't. I agree with Nate Again, we're in an unprecedented year where things have been done

like we've never seen them done before. And normally, unless there's a seriously catastrophic event, if your game is supposed to be played on set day, you play on that day. But I can speak to is you're right. You're right, Shannon. We are creatures of habit. We eat at the same place. You know, our our manicures and pedicures are on a

certain day. You see the chiropractor on a certain day, Your massus is on a certain day, your massage on a certain day, with your massus, I mean whatever, whatever your routine is, your acupuncture, you're cupping, whatever those things are that you are, it is a dedicated routine and players of all sports hate to have their routine interrupted because it's it's it's a mental thing that just kind of gets you prepared for what you have to do

on Sunday. And so when that's interrupted, not once, but twice, and now you know, you think you're playing here and you're playing there, and now you know normally and it may sound like something that's so minister, like, oh man, you don't need them to stop all the time, Yes,

you do, mentally and physically I need that. And you know, at the beginning of the year, she may have locked me in for every Thursday at three o'clock and then all of a sudden, now it goes off, and now we're playing on Tuesday, and now I'm like, hey, can I get it on the Monday. She's like, I'm all booked up on the Monday. You're like what, And now you have to go through either getting someone else or

not getting it at all. And it sounds so minuscule, but it is one of those things that can just mess with your mind because you're like, man, I don't feel the same like I normally know how my body to feel on this day as I get, you know, tools, my preparation for Sunday, and when those things get thrown off, it can really mess with you mentally, man, I'm like, I'm telling you players are very meticulous, superstitious, superstitious and

just that routine. It's so important to guys when you hear about that, Hey, learn how to be a professional. It's not just the study habits. It's about building into your everyday life during the season, what you need to do, whatever it is you need to do to get yourself ready for a game day. And that's the part of being a professional. When I was interrupted, guys are affected by that, like mentally guys and physically guys are affected by that. Do you think that this you know, Cowboys

were supposed to play tomorrow against the Ravens. Now that's Tuesday, coming off that bad lowsome Thanksgiving, the tragedy with Marcus Paul. Do you think this extra time off is a good thing or because they're now going to have to play Tuesday and turn around and then play Sunday. In the long runs, it's going to be a bad thing. Tough quick, quickly, let me let me put something in there. You don't want that. You don't want that because the disadvantage to

this team. It's like Jess has always said, they don't know one another like the coulte human like the Ravens do. So you know, you don't get you know, if they would letting these guys in, it was so much more. If they would letting these guys into the facility and they could practice, this would be advantage, especially for the young guys that you got in place, this would be advantage. But since you don't, then guys are virtue is still trying to learn one another. This is a disadvantage for

the Dallas Cowboys. Just let me let me hear what you have to say on that. No, I agree, Um, I think the only benefit of this is is there guys or guys who need a little bit more rest. Right, if there's guys battling something, some guys are like hoof, you know, I'm glad I got a little bit more extra time to rehab this or to get better there. Um, but again it's it's still it's still messing with your routine.

And and this is such a this is such a unique season, man, and just in everything that we're doing and seeing. We got games on Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights, and I mean, guys are flying in. We've got nineteen guys that can't play or I mean this is this is just one of those weird twenty twenty I'm just I've had it up to here with everything twenty twenty, and I'm just like, this is just another another brick into the wall of I keep running my head into

with this twenty twenty season. I know what though, I want to say this right quick, like is something Lebron and a few other NBA players said and coaches and a few announcers, and I love when they said this. The mentally tough will survive. The mentally tough will survive because everybody's gonna get beat up, But the mentally tough will survive For the young players, is it? I mean, they don't know any better. This is their first year in the NFL with they maybe are just better than

a than a veteran nah creatures of habit. It still goes back to that even in college, they had routines or how they handle things and what they did, and a lot of players they liked in a lot of cases being told what to do and where to be in what time to be there. Because they can set their clocking, no word about it, then they can fit everything else around that that's part of that professionalism Jesse's

talking about. Yeah, No, you're absolutely right, Nate. It's that as much as you see these big, mahemouth men, who's telling these guys we need structure, we strive off structure. We need to be This is why one of the if you're good at it, like the whole personal trainer thing, like everybody's doing. Every guy that pays all this money to these other personal trainers, they don't need them to

instruct them. They don't need the instruction. I know everything that I'm supposed to be doing and what I need to be fixed. But I pay for you to tell me. I pay for you to put it and give it to me in an instructional form. That's all about that. What can what can a guy? Right, let's think about this, what can a girl? What can a guy or girl tell me about the position that I play professionally? I'm not saying that people aren't knowledgeable of it. I know

everything that I need to do about that position. I know all the little idio secrecies that need to be done to have success at that position. What I pay for is someone else to make me have to go and do them. Every single day to get They hold you accountable and make you stand of your money, right, and that's what we need. Like, that's what we thrive off of. We thrive off of that structure. That's setting where someone is like, I just be here eight o'clock.

It's because this has been it's almost been beaten to our heads and programmed to our heads since you know, middle school, high school, that hey practice at this time, do this, do this, do this, do this, do this. And while we always say I am my own man, I control my this isn't that we're always like, hey, so what we have to be again? Okay, tell me where you want me to go. Okay, tell me what you want to do. All right now, now get out

the way. I'll go do it. Once you tell me what to do, get out of my way, then I'll go and do it. That's what we want to be assertive after we're told what to do. It's it's a funny and interesting dynamic of how the brain of an athlete. Uh it works. Yeah, that's the only time that and the only time that we're gonna fit really not be what told what to do is when it's come time

to get our contracts done. Then we want to tell some does that work with with the with the trainers though, I mean because I would like, okay, like a hitter in baseball, if his hands start dropping a little bit instead of hitting line drives, he's hitting fly balls. It's just those little bit of techniques that they sometimes need a guy to come in and show them what to do. Do you get that plan receiver or cornerback lineman where well, okay in my case, in my case, it depends on

the person. Really when we say, you know, because me, I didn't need a guy, uh that I needed a forceful guy. I didn't won't know. I didn't. I didn't need no no, no tag alone guy. And I'm yes man. Yeah, I don't need no yes man because you're yes man. I could just stay right there with the cowboys and he ate double us to day. Because when I went to train I had a guy that was gonna be on my behind and saying, hey man, what is your goals? What do you want to be? How how do you

want to handle the season. I needed a driver. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't need a plutter, I needed a drive. A dogs somebody are gonna go and get me, and so jess Man had a different case, and I knew other A lot of athletes go and get their buddies and their friends just want to give them a paycheck. I don't deal like that. You have to earn yours. Yeah, Kurt, it's it's the same thing and and and maybe a

little bit different for lineman. But there's every position your your opposition are looking for keys, right, hey, and this stands is he what is he doing when it's a run block? What is he doing when it's a pass block? You know? How is he? How is he? How is his footstats when he's getting ready to pull? How is his footstats when he's getting ready to set? So all the look, hey, is he is he early hands when he go out and block? Or is he late hands?

Because now I'm it's this chess match. So for us, you know, offensively, I'm always trying to eliminate the little things that are giving away what I want to do to the defender. So if I'm running a route and I begin to raise up, well, I's to indicate it to the defender that I'm getting ready to do something. Right, And now he's putting all this calculation into his head. Okay, Well, Jesse is plus two split, right, and it's only a certain amount of route that he can run from a

plus two split. So if I begin to raise up at about ten yards, he's knowing at ten yards he's either running an end route or some sort of curl route or something of that magnitude. So he's picking up on that, and after a while he begins to catch a bead. And if it's a er, let's just say it's a it's the Giants or or the football team from Washington or Philly or we play these guys twice

a year. So now I've been through a game. And if I've given you indicators that you've able to pick up on the second time around, you're now able to do something different and to affect what I want to do. So you get what you're training in the offseason and you try to work on eliminating some of those things. If you're not good at the line of scrimmage, how can I get better move off the line of scrimmage?

How can I get better through my route? So it's all those little things, the big stuff you get if you get to the National Football League, you're great. I don't care what level you want to. Yeah, you have your Hall of Fame grade, you have your you know, Pro Bowl grade, you have your average grade, and then you have your you know, your your your jag just another guy great. But if you get to this level,

you are a great player. It's all about those little things and the gift from guy that you know, Tyreek Hill is four to speed. Who talked to anybody teach him that. I can't teach Tyreek Hill to be four two, So that's a guy gift. But what I can't teach Tyreek killers how to get in and out of breaks better while using that speed, how to set routes up. So I have to kind of out the two you kind of do as a trainer, right quick like, let

me say this right quick like. It's Andrew Reid. Not one of the best coaches, is his is his scouting department? Not one of the bet This is one of the guys that he's like Coach Switzer used to be when he was at Oklahoma. They say, coach, he can't get in and out of breaks, but he runs a four two and there say bring him to me and I'll find a way to you. Bro. I'm just being honest, that's amazing that you you know, guys pick up telling you like you said, just rising up at a certain

point or whatever. That's that's amazing. No, it's not. It's not. Well, just people don't think about the little interest is not all right whatever, you know, it's not. No, it's not. And I'm gonna tell you why you hurt. He's trying to tell no, no, no, no, I'm bullying what he's saying. I'm bullying in what I'm bullying he's saying. Not Kurt. I'm like Jesse, and I just want to say that y'all have I just missed with kurts hey, But but you know what, No, No, on a serious note, I'm

just trying to have fun. Man. Uh. That's why dad didn't play with us forever, and that's why Fitzpatrick playing for the Cognis forever, because he himself picked up on the blue things you're talking about. Kurt. I'm just playing and shying to stay out of me and Kurt's because I was just going somewhere with this. See you all all right, you know what, We're gonna take our first break. We're gonna do two things. In the next segment, One

is Kurt. I heard you laugh at Jesse when he said is pedicures and manicures as a man that has got heart and a manicure. I want Jesse to defend himself. So Jesse, you get to rebuttal Kurt's little girl giggle that he had when you said, come on, man it cure and pedicure. And then two, I'm gonna ask Jesse a question that we have never asked him on this show that I really want to know the answer to. So tune in find out what that is. We come back on the next next episode, next segment, Hang with

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addressed the question. Before we get to that. I want to give you a chance to defend yourself forgetting man a kind of headicures. Let me tell you why why. Let me tell you why I chuckled. And it has nothing to do with Jessie. This goes back. This is twenty years ago. I was with the Rangers and I had to go out on an autograph signing with a couple of players. And it was out a mall. It was miserable. It was a terrible mall. They didn't want

to be there. I didn't want to be there. But we had about an hour or maybe not that long, thirty minutes to kill before the autograph session started. So I'm like, okay, guys, go, you know you got thirty minutes, go do whatever. So they're wandering around the mall. Well, it gets time for the autograph session. People are waiting and they're not there. They disappeared. So I have to check around the mall to find these guys. And where do I find them. They're in a salon getting their

nails done. And what was what made it funny was one of the guys was you could tell he regularly got manicures. It wasn't a big deal, but but the other guy, it was his first time and he saw me see him, and he looked at me, and I looked at him, and he was so embarrassed. He couldn't believe. And this is like a big slugger, you know, I just you never think about and I know you know now it's not that big a deal, but twenty years ago it's kind of a rare thing, it seemed like.

So that's why I was chuckling when brought back a kind of a funny Okay, all right, you get a pass. You get a pass if there's nothing I have to defend on getting a manicure and a pedicure. If you here's the thing. If you've gotten one, didn't you understand then you know what? Yes, sir, it's just like I'm in me from one right now. But if you can see, like, you know, I need to get another manicure, but you know right now, and usually Thursdays, what where do they

use to call it a metrosexual? Like Thursdays is my grooming day. Right, I go to the barbershop, I get a shape up. On Thursday. I get a manipedicure on Thursday. You know, I shaved below my Tommy John's on Thursday. Like, I get, whoa, that's too much. But I do my fat feet too, Jesse, I do my fat feet too. I know. Listen and and here's how I originally started this. My grandmother about fifteen, about about fifteen, twenty years ago. Um, my grandmother, she she she was clipping her nails and

she clips, come in, let me see your hand. And she clipped my nails. And she always told me, she said, Jesse, she said, a woman looks at three things when she sees a man, right, right, right, she said, three things when she sees a man his shoes, is his nails clean, and for his wallet? So and so. At that time, I was like for real. She was like yeah. And so she clipped my nails and then she put a clear coote of polish on my nails. And I was so afraid to leave. I thought. I thought it was like,

you know, girly. I was so afraid to leave the house with this clear coote of nail polish on my nails. And I go to school the next day and all of the girls are like, oh, you get your nails done. Look how clean his nails is. And that's all I needed. That is all I need. And I was like, Grandma, do it again, Like can we do it again? Do

it again? And then once I got to the point where you know, um, you know, getting the pedicures and the manicures professionally, Oh my god, if you haven't got one that, if you have not gotten one, please go get fellas. Not even for the women. I don't even do it for the women. Do it. It's good. Let I go in there, shout out to Yin. That's my that's my that's my my nail tech Yin. What's going on? Girl? I relax? I sit back, man, they know what I white.

They know, they know. I don't have to say nothing, and it is a good hour of just quiet. I close my eyes, I relax, I put the phone down, and they go to work. I'm gonna give you some advice. If y'all have never gotten one. If they offer the hot stones, do that. If they offer the wax where they put your legs in the wax, do that. If you get from the paraffin wax or something like. Yes, if you get a manicure and they offer a forearm aside, that is one of the best feelings you will ever

have in life. And if you go to a barber or a stylist that offers hot towel treatments or facials, do yourself a favor. You're gonna feel really weird if you do any of this stuff for the first time. If it makes you feel better to go with your wife or your girlfriend or your homeboy, do it. But do yourself a favor. If you've never gotten any of those three things, go some time and do it. Oh my god, Kurt, Kurt, you need to go. I've got in the town. I've done. My girl name is Tina Man,

and I thought y'all didn't like the hot tie will affit? No, I just don't want next surgery. Okay, all right, you know what. You know what we're gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna put the question because we ran along in the first segment, I'm gonna put the question to Jesse Off for the second segment. I know that was a short segment, but I want to make sure we get out of here on top. I'm building this up way too much.

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I was. I was like, I read this yesterday. Did I read the right one? I had to go back and look and see, but yes, it was two days in a row that I was supposed to read that. Okay. I wish y'all could hear the conversation we had in

the break, but you can't move on, Jesse. The thing, you know, the thing I love about you, Jesse is you're cocky, you're confident, you're full of yourself, but you're also a realist and you have humility and you and you will talk about real things and you will You're a real person, and that's why that's why I love you, Jesse. And we have hinted around at this a million times on this show, and we never really asked you why?

And it popped into my head yesterday. I was like, I'm gonna ask Jesse on the show show what part of your you made it to the league. And like you said earlier in the show, if you make it to the league, and you make it on a roster, even a practice squad, you are a great player. And you refer to yourself as a jag just another guy, and blah blah blah. We joke around with you about getting called from behind and all that stuff. But what part of your game what prevented you from being a

starting receiver in the league? Was it? Was it one part of your game? Was it a combination of a lot of things? Why? Why were you because you played? Obviously, you played in games, and you were around and you were on teams. But what prevented you from breaking through and becoming a starting player on the roster? I would say two things. One, we all know. We we talked about it. We laugh about it. I got run down.

I wasn't the fastest guy in the world. Okay, that I just speed, you know, I just I wasn't the fastest player. I was a really good route run I had really good hands. I caught everything. But I wasn't. I wasn't fast. I just wasn't fast. And the second thing is it's fit. And what I mean by fit is is that the right fit can make you a star. The right coaches can make you a star if you get into the right system. And not everybody is able to do so. But if you get into the right system,

you could play for ten, fifteen, twenty years. And I mean legitimately, if you get into the right system. I was never I was never a part of this. I blame on myself my rookie season. I chased money instead of fit. I was an undrafted free agent. I was a preferred free agent. Right So, as soon as the draft ends, my phone is blowing up with all these teams calling. And this is the part of the draft where team they're trying to get players and they're giving

them signing bonuses and stuff like that. We all see it happened like, oh, this guy went to that team because they gave them fifty dollars a hundred thousand dollars at the time the draft was over. One of the three teams that were like really hot on my trail with the Bengals, the Ravens and Saint Louis Rams at the time, and the right fit for me would have been to go to the Baltimore Ravens when you look at what they did and what my skill set was,

or the Rams. I chose the Bengals, again not understanding the business at the time. They had Chad Ochocinko, TJ. Hushman Zada, and rest in peace, Chris Henry. So your top three spots are solidified. Two out of those three spots they paid millions too, and Chris was eventually going to get his payday before he passed, but they offered twelve thousand dollars more than the other two teams. So me, being young, dumb and inexperienced, I did what most people

do who don't have any money. They go chasing where the money was at. Had I gone to Baltimore or had I gone to Saint Louis, the Skies could have been the limit because now I'm competing against Chad Johnson, who at that time. You gotta remember there was a point in time with Chad Johnson was literally the best receiver in the league about a two year maybe two years three year span where he was the man t j Hushman Zada was one of the best route runners

I've ever seen. And Chris Henry was the evolution of the jump ball receiver. He was fast, he was six foot four six foot five, so it was like they had a combination of superstar route runner jump ball getter. And then that's when I started understanding the whole Special Team's core guys. They had a guy by the name of Tad Perry. We had a guy by the name of Sam Hurd. I mean there's guys on each team. You're like, oh, this guy will be on that roster

for ten years, right, Nay? You had guys like Bill Bits, right, guys like that who who found their who found their role, Like Bill Bates. Let's be honest, Like Bill Bates wasn't a prolific athlete. He found a fit and it worked for ten plus years. So I think part of it was I wasn't fast at all. Second, it was I just the fit wasn't right. Just I just I didn't have I didn't have Like when Jason Garrett cut me, he told me he wished he had fifty three guys like me, and I was like, well, you got one.

Why would you get rid of that one. So I'm like, you chose Kevin Obertree and Dwayne Harris over me. But that's just the way the cookie crumble. So I think fit and boy, if if I had like a if I had like a low four five four four, shoot, man, I wouldn't be talking to y'all. I'll still be playing,

you know. And the thing about and the thing about this evolution of receiver now, just think if you were playing now, Jesse, how valuable valuable you would be if you were playing now because a guy like you, it's one on every team now. And it's not just being a special teams guy, it's one of you on every team because they value that guy in the slot. You don't need to be fast, but can get those keep

those chains moving. And uh wow. So I think about it, and I look at you, man, and uh, I see how well built you are, man, And well talk about being well built baby. Yeah, there we go. That's the arrogant Jesse. Y'all love a little bit of humility and a whole lot of self confidence. I love it, Nate, how much how much understanding? We love you too, man, because by the way you the way you do, it

can't nobody do it. I don't know if that's that's a good thing, man, And I want to tell a turk eaga do he ever not had my ball on the show tonight? We gotta show off. By the way, Kyle Yeoman's will be hosting Cowboys Cross Talk tonight. It's gonna be a good show. It'll be Nate, Burry Church and Kyle. It'll be the what is that the pregame show that y'all do basically without Isaiah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he did Writing on the Wall, Shannon. It'll be

a good show. No writing on the wall, brother, they need Shannon. Man. Yeah, I'm not able to go to the facility for five days because I I am in. I am in in quarantine protocol just to be safe. So because we I had a visitor for Thanksgiving and so I'm I'm I'm out this week. So Kyle's gonna do such a good job tonight though they're gonna kick me off the show because that dude. That dude is going places. Man, I love that guy. He's a hell of a host. Man's doing it, Kyle, he hasn't you know,

ka's a national commercial, like an national Uh. I won't say the sponsor's name, because they don't pay us. They pay college. But you know he has a national commercial, does he really? Yeah, with the Burger chain. I said, I was listening. Yeah, I can't listen to working out. I was like, is that why I've heard his uh? And then I understand. Man, they love him in basketball, they love him ESPN, they love him in basketball. He loved it. Oh man, not that basketball. Hold on, man, Yeah,

he's for dogs. Don't do that. He's a play by played basketball guy. He's worked in UH league baseball. He's done a lot of stuff. He's high school football man. He is, he is talented. He is where from Shannon, Louisiana. He is not from Louisiana. He's from I believe he's from here. I believe he's from this. I got this crowd up. Nah. Nah, I thought he's a I thought from he was. Chris Beam just told us he's from Waco.

He's a pretty good Call of Duty player too. He's he's I got one more question, all comes back up. I got one more question before we get off. And just like you wanted to ask Jesse a question and took up all our time. Actually, Jessica I have one question that I need for you to answer tomorrow. Okay, okay, what is your experience at the stadium. We have not heard that yet. We want to hear that tomorrow, Shannon and I not that for another segment to go by.

We want to hear full, full segment of that tomorrow. Tune in you want to miss that. I'll do that in the last segment. That way we can get all the football talking the first two segments. That way, everybody can tune out any games tonight. Ravens still there is we should have done our show during the game, and we could have done commentary. Yeah, Kurt, that have been nice, man, don't hey, We already got people asking us if you even pay attention to the show when you're over there

banging on your keyboard. We don't need you to distracted with football. Stand on top of things here, I had somebody asked me what you're doing during the show when you're banging on the keyboard and they can hear you. So I'm going to give you a chance to explain what's going on over there? Are you doing research for? Look? Yeah, here looking for the part he can slide by a lunch. They're doing that, that's for sure. I'm looking at trailer

park near me. Normally, I apologize. I didn't realize people could hear me typling. Normally I'm just researching stats or reading stories or going through Twitter a lot. So I once in the while, I once a while, I do have an email pop up. Okay, thank you, respond Urt. So Kurt is reading stories during our show that I apologized, Chris Bean, get on, get on, get on, Kurt. You got on me for looking down at my phone during

the show. Say show you get on Kurt the same way you got on me, Chris be Most of the time, it's it's Twitter and all that. So I poly, I didn't really know people can hear me, Hollow. It's okay. Tomorrow we get we get to watch. We get to watch our next opponent. Today at two thirty, we'll watch the Ravens Steelers game, and then we'll talk Cowboys. Cowboys will be watching that. What they're getting together in position groups and watching the game. Is that what I heard

is that what I do. I haven't heard that. I don't know if that really makes a difference to be watching watching video anyway, but it would be a kind of a new way to do things. I guess okay, well cool, Well let's have a piece of party. Lets watch and then we can talk about it. Tun the wrong way. Don't do that. There's some games like they're having a eatsa party, so don't don't do that. It's the chef, that's what they're gone. They're gonna take your

comment and run with it. We'll get cookies tomorrow thanks to TIFFs treats. We'll get those tomorrow. Jesse. You want me to send them to the school or to your house, to my office please, I'll be at the office tomorrow. Office. All right, Thank fellas, it's been real. Let's give Chris a couple of minutes back of his day. We will resume tomorrow with some Cowboys Ravens talk and we will not have a show on Friday, so tomorrow we'll get it in. Good seeing you, Jesse, Nate, Kurt, Chris Beam.

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