Hangin' with the Boys: Keep It Real

just don't even care. And I'm I'm gonna say this and let this Skyle, I'm gonna say this and let this go. All right, I'm gonna say this and let this say preach the Cowboys. And in the playoffs, Okay, one thing, just only one thing happens. Yeah, the Eagles one and that kind of messed things up. The Cowboys did what they had to do to get into playoffs. All right, that's all I'm saying. What was the score yesterday's game, Kurt, forty seven to sixteen Cowboys. That's our

game recap. That's all we're talking about. So the first round, Hey, the first round me three weeks this guy and everything finalized. Now yeah, yeah, yep, you're as flights book, ready to go hotel. All I know is I'm ready to go. Where are you going? Playoffs? Nate? I love your conviction, yes, your passion, but this is ridiculous. I'm going to the playoffs. I ain't s album's going with the Cowboys, I said, New Orleans, I'm going to the playoffs. I gotta keep

my words to the fans. I'm going to it and buy it to say, man, okay today, So we're doing a show today, tomorrow okay, and then there'll be a joint show on Thursday, which we still don't know who's on that joint show, but it's probably going to be around eleven in the morning, and then we'll go to once a week. We'll figure that what day yet next week? Nope, we'll figure all that out and let everybody know. I'm sure Monday the last couple of years, but I'm sure

we'll put out a schedule at some point. So just know you got us today. Tomorrow we'll take phone calls because we want to know what you're thinking ending the season. But today you're stuck with us. Yeah. And the most important thing right now, and I'm quite sure you too, love the gentlemen agree with me, is will we have a new head coach at what time point in time? We don't know. I mean, let's coach. You got something inside on that. Now. There's a lot of rumors flowing

her around. One one local reporter even said that everybody's already been fired, but now they're backtracking all that. So it's just it's a free for all right now on what's going on? Yeah, and here's the deal. Like I've had a few people hit me up and send me messages and texts and stuff, and like, you know, when's announcement.

I don't think. I don't think there's gonna be an announcement because Garrett's contract expires after the season right Wednesday, Wednesday, So I don't I don't think there's gonna be I think you're probably just gonna hear rumors of coaches being interviewed. I would him possibly going and interview and other place. I don't think there's gonna be well, I would think that just to avoid all the rumors and speculation that they might, they would come out and say we're moving

on we're moving on. I don't know if they'll hold a press conference or anything like that, but I would think just to avoid all this what's going on right now, all these rumors. Let me ask you this, Have the Cowboys ever avoided being talked about in the media. I think they would probably do the opposite, just to be Hey, the playoffs are going on, but here's what's going on

with Cowboys. Could I could see him maybe doing a press conference if Garrett wanted to say goodbye or something, or they wanted to, you know, congratulate him, and Garrett might be like, forget this, I'm out of here. So he did it all in this uh post game show

yesterday to reminisce into talking about it. You know, he had a really good interview on the fan this morning, by the way, that if you haven't heard it, go to go to our website or our app and they've got the audio and they it's I think I've heard Garrett maybe three times pull the curtain back a little little bit and show some emotion and show some personality,

and I think go listen to that. I think that's what fans kind of wanted from him throughout his two day he was a little bit of, you know, some emotion, like he's a real he's not a robot, he's a human being, and he I think he showed a little bit of that. So if you haven't heard it, go go listen to it. What were you? What were you? What? We have a caller? Oh, Jesse, Hello, Well is on the phone? Hello? Who is this Kyle? We got you hooked up. I've gotten to bed. Yeah, Kyle, what's going

on with the audio? That's yea? Now we're good. Now, what's up? Brother? You guys got me? What's going on? We got you? What's Monday? So you mailed it in and just decided to call him from bed? Didn't even get out of bed this morning? Do you so tore up? Huh? You know what. I'm so distraught and so hurt man, my feelings, my emotions, everything that would not let me get up and get out of the bed. But I didn't make it to the airport where I've been stuck

for the last six hours. No, serves you right, serves you right? Jason Alley. Yeah, you know, I thought you hit But I thought today you guys would support me emotionally because of all the things that I've gone through this weekend, but I see that you guys are treating me just like you treat your head coach. It's a shame, man, shame you guys doing this way. How are we doing you? Oh? You guys are you guys are just treating me all bad? Man. I've been in the airport for six hours. Man, where

where's the sympathy? Man? You know, where's the sympathy? Where were you? Where were you at? Where you having to be in an airport, New Jersey? What were you doing in New Jersey? I was interviewing for the Giants job all right, nature face? You know, do you know Michael Jordan? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard of that guy before, you know, going anywhere? Yeah, I want to get on the conversation. Man, let's what we're talking about. Let's talk. We well, we just opened

up the show. We just we just recap the Redskins Cowboys game, the Cowboys one. That's about all we had to say about that. And then we were just talking. You mean, do you mean they scored thirty plus points? Again? They did, man, they did, and they played a team below five hundred, so wow, automatic payoffs. Nates got Nates in the playoffs. Oh Nates in the playoffs. Yeah, I thought fantasy was over. Nah, I play uh I played Seahawks next week, keeping it going. I'm so so Shannon,

are you? Are you going to bring down those papers from your office so we can recap and go back over every one and everyone's pre season review of what the Cowboy was going to be at the end of the season. We'll do that tomorrow when you're when you're in the studio with it was. So, maybe maybe you can find an airport that allow you through airport security,

cause maybe maybe maybe you can get on a plane. Then, right, if you know anything about flying out of North Airport, you all you know there's always something jump happening in the North Airport. I hear the Jesse is just you. Everybody else moving around, it's just you. I was insane Jose this morning. That's right. So everybody, you are the one Jesse that is holding up everything right when the show was starting. That's how dedicated he is. You know,

accunstant man for getting the mother shows. I just got to make it the one show. I just want to make sure that the voice of reason is accounting for on this on this Monday Okay, you are being accounting for. We have twenty six players that's had some type of reach restriction or whose contract is up right, yes, sir, yeah, yeah, unrestricted. Before we get into this list, though, Jesse, what what are your what are your final thoughts on the season.

I know you're diet. You wouldn't have called in if this wasn't important to you. I want to I want to be here with my team. I want to be here with my team on emotional day. I want to make sure I'm here to support you guys. Ain't one person usually going at that's me, home boy, So you can stop na it is okay, Jesse Lee, is you know our mentality? Well, hey, we come in on one day, we pack our garbage bags, if we roll out for

the off season. I'm glad you called it, Jesse, because I was gonna ask you guys that as we sat in the lunch room today and you you watch the guys, it looked they look like the Grinch who stole Christmas. That walking from the locker room, through the lunch room out to their cars with a grade garden over the shoulder. Some of them smile and some of them hugging people as they walk out. Some of them just look like the Grinch and all pissed off. What is that? I mean,

it's over like when you lose. You come in, you have a team meeting, sometimes you meet with the coach and do exit interviews and all that, and it's over until you're back in the ability. Some of these guys twenty six of them that we have on this paper in front of us, that will go through at some point in the show, twenty six of them. In reality is well over half of those guys won't be back with this team. Some of them won't even be on a team. This will be their last stint in the NFL.

What's that day like when you come in and these guys that you've battled with and you've you know, you fought with and you've gone through all this stuff with for the last nine months. How is that walk out of that locker room? What's the mentality? What is that like? Yeah? I think the reality finally hits you at that point in time and you go, Man, you know all the hard work that you put in, all the days, all the hours. I said this many times before, you spend

more time when you're playing football. You spend more time with your football family than you do your actual blood family. The hours, the trips, the road games, I mean all of that. Uh, and then it's over. And like that, you look up and you go, wow, man, you know it's done. And I'll never be in a locker room with all these guys again. Like you mentioned, some of these guys will never play football again. Some of these guys will never be on this team again. And you

build this bond. It's a short amount of time, but you build this bond because there's a common goal, you know, to to go out there and win the Super Bowl. You guys are in the trenches and you're in the you know, you're in the dirt every single day, bottling from one another. And then in a blink of an eye, it's over and it's done, and that chapter is closed and there isn't there isn't um there is anything you can do about it. You can't. You can't rewind it,

you can't go back. And so sometimes you just take a moment to reflect and you're saying, man, this is this is my sixteenth year, or this is my third year, or this is my homeboy. And some people are saying this is my coach that's probably not gonna be here anymore. So it's a it's a somber situation when we leave for that year, but also it's it's a moment to reflect it say, Okay, what can I do better? What can I go into this offseason and try to improve on?

What areas can I get? I can grow my game? Man, And so all these things are going through your mind. But it's an emotional it's an emotional thing for a lot of guys because it's over and all of these guys are such routine guys. Every single day you wink up at the same time, you take the same route, you eat the same thing for breakfast, you have the same meeting time, and all of that is so routine it is, I mean, it's it's it's like you can

do it without even being awake. And when all that's about to be over, all that's done, and now you have to go and find a new routine. And you know, essentially watching other people go in the playoffs and you look around and you're saying, all this talent, all all the guys that we have on the team, and we're gonna be playing that mute Nate when you whenever you decided to stop playing, did you have did you know

that was your last game? Oh? Yeah, so your last game, carolineas I knew, Man, I knew during the season like I ain't, I ain't have nothing else to give. Man, Yeah, I mean I was. I was a low average player and I knew it. I was like, wow. But what was it like when you walked away when you played your last game? I was good, man, I was good because the game was good, and man, I was good for the game, so you know, and I accomplished what a whole lot of guys wish they can get ahold of.

So did you I was good. Did you take a little bit of extra time that last game and kind of standing out on the field or were you just like I'm by, I'm out. You got it? You got it? Jesse, what was your what was your last I guess, last moment or last memory of being on the team? Oh? I knew, I was, I knew. I was done kind of almost in the off season because it became work to me. It became work to get up in the morning and go trains and go prepare and eat right.

All that became work. Where years in the past. It was it was enjoyable to me. I would I would like literally jump up in the morning, like, let's go run this three miles, Let's go train this hot funt of Texas. And I knew in training. I knew when I thought a training the office, I'm like, man, this might be it for me. And then when I got the training camp with New England, and I thought of realizing, man, this is this is hard. This first I was like And the sad part about it was when I got

released from New England. I was a very last guy to be released. I didn't get released until seven o'clock that night, so I had to wait all day long. And it was a discussion back and forth between was New England gonna keep five receivers or four receivers and I ended up keeping four receivers and using Aaron Hernandez as their fifth receiver. Um that didn't worked out too well for him. But I was like, literally all training cap was in my room and when you get the

I got the door. So you know, for the for the for the for the turk, maint knows about that the turk to come get you. I was hoping it was me and I couldn't quit. I couldn't do that. But I was like, if they fired me, that's something different. But I wasn't going to quit, but I knew, I knew that often and that this was gonna be my last year. M Kurt, What was your Oh sorry, well, you know, sorry about that? So where where? Where? Where does the team go from here? Jesse? What? What? What?

What are the big what are the big question marks? Obviously what are they gonna do with the coach? What are they doing with the free agents? But as far as you know, let's take the head coach and put that aside. What do you do with the rest of the staff. Do you leave some of these guys in place? If you do make a coaching change, do you let the new head coach bring his own people in? How do you see that shaking out? Yeah? I think you

know this. The next head coach he has to be able to pick his own staff from top to bottom, like you know, you trying to add pieces. Now, maybe you suggest right, if you're Jerry and you're Stephens, you said, hey, this just Mark Columbo's a really good offensive linement of offer the line. Really like him, you know, consider to you know, consider you know, consider that something that you want to do. What's up, man, what's going on? What's up? Right now? I ran into Dion Brand. I just ran

into Branch. We just I just having a conversation about my last time when I knew my last game was I do a showback in Dallas called Hanging with the Boys. Yeah, they're laughing. I'm like, I can't say it loud on that. Yeah that's me right there, all right, I would goody, sorry, fellow. I just ran into de Branch, right yeah, yeah, yeah, super Bowl MVP Dion Branch. We were teammates. Remember I told you the story when I was got to New England.

He was the one who told me what the food up when I first gotten and I've first gotten the huddle with ye yeah, so he would just coming through the airport and so yeah, we just we just stapped up. But anyway, I think the next coach just has to be able to be, you know, fully come in and and have his staff man, because trying to piece things together.

Now I have to convince a coach from another staff to buy into my philosophy, and that sometimes can be that sometimes gonna be hard, you know, because Mark Colombo has his way that he's done things and has been accepted under the Jason Garrett era, or christ Rachard has

his way, or John Titton has his way. Until now, if I want to come in and have a fresh start, I want to be able to bring guys that I trust and that I have, you know, have full faith that is going to do things the way that I want to do it, and no one's and knows me and notice me and how I want to do things. So I do think that the next coach that comes

in here should be allowed to one pick their own staff. Well, Jesse, we're gonna take our first break, and then Nate's got to get out of here early, so we're probably gonna take off a little early. We're gonna go through this list of free agents. When you get in tomorrow, we'll go over you'll be here tomorrow, right, Yeah, I'll be here tomorrow if my plan is at some point in time to day. Okay, Well, we hope you get out of Jersey because that's a terrible place to get stuck.

You know, it's a terrible place definitely to get stuck, definitely to live. If I didn't have family, I'll probably never come back here, but don't ever disrespect the place that I'm from. No problem. I will never make that mistake again. We'll see you tomorrow, brother. Whenever you get in a get in the office, we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back with free agents who we can and cannot live without. On hanging with the Boys the

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off your first order. What's wrong? I always figured you was out of rhythm that that drumbeat. Now that you just showed you, we need to get up. Once the show lineups are set for next year, we need to get computer to make us a new intro. I like the one we have. I do too. We can spice up revamp it. Yeah sure, all right. I have in front of me and Kurt and Nate and Jesse over there has his bottle wash it and put the can and we should have put the Lysol can there. He

is Jesse. Thanks for participating a list of free agents. You got first branch and now who we got ye? How do you like that? Jesse name dropping on the phone? Name? All right? List of free agents? How do y'all want to do this. You want to go down the list. Do you want to say must resign, don't need to resign? Or indifferent? You want to play that game, Sure, let's do that. So there's I think there's twenty six guys

that are either unrestricted or restricted free agents. So we'll just go down the list and you tell me thumb up, thumb down, or thumb sideways. Yes, resign, no, don't indifferent? All right, Dak Prescott sign you got to resign? Resign? Cooper Rush restricted free agent? I don't I think if it's gonna be the same as it was this year that you cannot plan, don't even order about signing it.

And if you can't plan, what good is he? I think at this point, Dak's established enough where you could bring in a veteran and and maybe somebody you know can handle some snaps. Okay, something happens. Uh, Jamay's old walle They got an option on him. Yeah, it's ope turn Rid Tavon Austin. No, Yeah, he's a guy wouldn't spend a lot of money on if the price is right, prices right, maybe, but he just didn't do a whole lot. She really didn't really have a chance to. Yeah, it

didn't really use him a whole time. They never have either, So no, Randall Cobb, if the price is right, go with shooting that one price is right, Amari Cooper. He might be the toughest decision because he's had He's been a superstar at times and other times he's disappeared more than you'd like. But I think they got to bring him back for you don't think Gallup's ready to step into that number one because we don't have a number two. Yeah, so you have to really give Mary a great consideration.

You got to handle that with gig gloves. The one thing that bothers me, I guess about the Mari situation, he's he's probably gonna get what top five receiver money. That's that's the question mark that you just you just hit it man like. And and to me, if you're a top five, if you're getting top five receiver money, you you can't disappear in games. And I feel like he was able, whether it was injuries or whatever it was.

He was taking out of some games this year. And if I'm gonna pay a guy that much money, I need him. I need him. Sixteen games to be a force. Yeah, yet push for the question mark by it man. You have to handle that right. Batrak says his market value is nineteen point seven million, which is like the second would ring him the second days paid. That's that's steep Man. You're gonna need a lot. You're number one at that cost.

Step Well, and you also mentioned the fact of having Michael Gallup as your one receiver and you don't I really have a two. So does that mean is that going to be a spot where you have to go in the draft. You have to be able to go up and get a wide receiver and a very wide receiver a heavy draft. But are you confident that that guy could either be your number one or one, a or two behind Michael Gallop. Yeah, And then you get into the conversation of you also that first round pick.

You really need a safety, you really need a cornerback. Now you really into tackle? I mean, I don't know. That's that's gonna be very interesting. Blake Jarwin restricted free agent. Yeah, I think I'd like to see him back for sure and give him a chance. I'd like to see him a full season as you're number one or one a tight end to get to actually give this man a shot. He either gonna be your your number one guy, he's not. This ain't Lakamari and Michael Gallup two guys that are

still ascending. You know, you got Jason Witten, and you got h Blake and then you got the kid behind Blake. You got to make a decision who is going to be your primary pass catching tight end. And if you're not gonna get Blake jar and the opportunity just that is just a waste. That that is a waste. Sometimes you gotta sit down, as a head coach or as anybody over player personnel, say who is this guy and

and what he shows you? If what he shows you on the field is a question mark, is it your fault as as as a personnel person coach's fault as not being able to use him? Is the kid dumb and don't know how to run routs and can't be dependent upon you? Gotta make that decision. As a restricted guy too, they can bring him back, you know, if

they want him. Know happit there's he doesn't have the freedom of don't hit the market right unrestricted Jason Witten, Well, he and a limited role and if you're not gonna limit this role. No, don't bring him back. He's not coming back and limited role. I hope the Hall of Famer rides off into the sunset. Clip. Kyle, you've got a clip of him after the game, right, please? Please please? We don't have that. I've got two clubs clips. I've

got him reflecting change. Brother, it's not gonna change. He either coming here be our starting tight end and now all other tight ends getting left out, or he moves on. I mean, now we can hear another speech on how he's not wanting to leave. He don't want to leave. Okay, play they clip? He play the clip because this is this is the problem, and I rally hate to say this. This is the problem. Who is the Dallas Cowboys are.

We're a team that's gonna continue to ride in the past and to hold on to the past, or we're gonna try to go forward and try to win. We gotta make a decision here now, we have to make a decision. All of these guys we got question marks on. We got a question mark on this guy. We got a question mark on this guy. Is this guy? Oh, it's Sean Lee, gonna be back in Jason Whitton gonna be back. Oh man, what we're gonna do with this guy? What? Oh man? What Antoine was gonna do? It's like every

guy we got a question on. We hope him for stardom, But you gotta ask yourself, does this guy have startom in him? So? Now? Does Dak have start him in him? I think he does with the right coach, I think he does. Does Zeke Hof start him in him? I know he does. Does Blake jardin House start him in him? I don't know? How do I find out? I know who Antoine Wards is. He's a thirty thirty down player that if you would relegate him to run run pat run first responsibilities, he's a hell of a player. But

to ask him to do thirty five and forty plays? No? What is Jalen Jayleen Smith is a run stopping linebacker that can catch fire and be streaky good, but if actually told a team defensively, he cannot. He's shown you that. So you can sit here and keep it real. Are we can say, great guy, love him to death, Let's keep him, and then we'll be like, okay, y'all, eighty, here we go again. Got eighteen thousand free agents. Let's walk through him again. Okay, let's continue to walk through him,

and that's food ourselves once again. So we're not playing the cliff of Jason Witton. Just say, man, I'm just saying, but no, I understand this right here? Who have who have ragged on Witton? Witten came back. I said myself, oh, Witt and back. I thought he was gonna be doing TV. Okay, it was first said that, Okay, he gonna have a limited role. Okay, we all sat and said not to Witten, we know, okay, did he have a limited role? I

was either starting tight end starting okay, seventy the snaps. Okay, So now Jesse said it. I said it. He's gonna He's gonna stop the growth of Blake Jarring unless unless the coaches come out and tell us we don't know. Okay, this is where we want Blake jar If this is where you want Blake Jarring, then okay, let us know. Hey, this is Blake Jarring's role. But we but we can't sit here and say should we keep Blake Jarring or should we not keep Blake Jarring? And then the question

comes up, because it comes up in every meeting. Who is Blake Jarring. Whitten played seventy six percent of the snaps, which was seventh on the team on the offense. You know and see that. This is what I tell people who don't love Jason Witten. Everybody loves Jason Witten, you know. But if but if you be honest, did you a negative person or you don't like Jason Winton? No, no, I'm gonna tell you what's bigger than Jason Witten? Like it was told in me, You're not bigger than the team.

And the progression of this team is to win game. The only thing that matters. This is what coach Johnson, Coach Landry and the great coaches that have always been associated with it. Fellows. We can we can talk about camaraderie, we can talk about brotherhood, we can talk about loving one another's families. But if we lose, you'll be doing it over the phone. Okay, you'll be doing it over the phone. So what what would it take to win? And we I'm hoping we judge in these players off

can they helped this team win? I hope that's what we're doing because we're doing anything else. If we're going back, if he's a good guy. We think he's a team leader. And I'm gonna be honest. Now, you may have some great team leaders that let us rat a night. Oh true, you gotta get out of here. No, that's list bright yellow looks good on you, by the way, you need to Yeah. Yeah, and I'm like the rest of all. I might got option. Okay, they got an option on

Cam Fleming. Yeah. If we can find somebody better, let's do. I don't know how many swing better swing tackles we heard from number ninety all years sweat yesterday they thought he was the greatest dude in the world on TV, Number ninety. I didn't know who number ninety was before the game. I know now. I tell you what. Swing tackles are hard to find. Yes they are. The Redskins may have the best group of names on any team. Yes they do. Yes, Jeremy Sprinkle Sweat. Yeah, he got

some good name. Gotta good. He gotta commercial to does he. Yeah, this guy hope they bring back. But I think he's gonna go make money somewhere. Joe Looney. Yeah, he's a good backup center. Yeah, nice guard. If they get if they can get him at the right price. I would keep him. Yeah, I think somebody's gonna pay him, though. I think he's gonna be a starter somewhere. I think so, as bad as offensive lineman are in this league. Yes, sir, I will um. Let's see Xavier Sue Philo oh Man.

He's you know, he's a one. He's a one way player. He's a one. He's a run. He's a run. He's a run player and loses confidence and he has no blocking a build, a pass, blocking a building when he loses confidence. You know, some decent games, but it's been inconsistent, very very would you would you bring him back as a backup? Only as a backup and at the right money? Yeah, all right, let's see Michael Bennett. Uh the money not to be really right, really really right, really really right.

Malik who Malie Collins Dangle Bear of Pan No, probably unless he go out and then find out in his valuable around the league as he thought he was. They need him in the middle. But you're right, with all the other contracts they got, I don't think pick yeah him. Christian Covington, he's a rotational guy. If you can get him cheap. Maybe he's unrestricted or restricted unrestricted money. Gotta be wrong with you, Kurt carry Hyder, young guy, right, I've worked with him if if the money's right. I

worked with him bringing back a little while. But two three years in the league, No, I think it's more than that. He's been one, two or three years in the league. He is what he is then, Yeah, yeah, I think he's he's and he got to beg us to get back here. Then this was his fifth season. Well, yeah, I would get one more shot. Okay, rotational. This is an interesting one because he's probably gonna get some money somewhere.

Will it be here, Robert Quinn, Yeah, I'd like to have him, especially with every year DeMarcus has got shoulder injuries or whatever, and you just wonder that's gonna be a hard one for the Jones Is to figure out. And Will McClay that's gonna be a hard when to figure out. Eleven and a half sacks in this two games, Yeah, pretty good, pretty good year for that guy, Yes, sir, And he's again with the way that DeMarcus just banged

up every year. I know DeMarcus plays harder than anybody, can't fault him, but man, i'd like to have that other rusher on the other side. Yeah, uh, Daniel Ross restricted free agent, banged up. Yeah, I mean he's a guy, you Sean Lee coach coach Lee next sounds like he's I would not let him lead the building. Man, that would be the only old guy that out of me. Say, you know what, y'all, If he'll signed for a meal and a half two mil, that dude is just real

and he did the solid job. Yeah, a couple of games. Yeah, this dude is real. Man. I can see this dude impacting some young players who are willing to deviral football putting the work. Yeah, man, I can see it. Man, Shannon Lie is real to me, and he seems to me like if you had him in some kind of coaching capacity, he would be a guy that would spend time with the guys that wanted to learn. Yeah, like, hey, you want to stay till ten o'clock to night watch field?

Mus do it? I'm with you. Justin March, going back to Nate, I do hope they really consider him as a coach. Yeah, man, give him. Man. See, I'm gonna tell you something, Man. A lot of times, a lot of times people hollow things like who they like and just that another you got sentimental values. But when you mentioned a guy name and no matter who you mentioned this guy name to, just number positive come out. That's that's that's him, that's Sean Lee. Nothing but positives come out. Yep. So, man,

that fifty looks good. Yeah, dude, justin March. I don't know enough about him. Yeah, yeah, it's I think he's like he was talking about with um, what's his name? Early, he's good for a certain number of snap Yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough about it. Man, speaking about knowing enough about him, I didn't even know this guy was on the team until last week. Malcolm Smith. Yeah, we signed him late and signed him. We signed him later, and he came in and Mason Mason plays. Actually, yeah,

that's not so funny. Come in and make plays. That's what a linebacker is supposed to be, not not not seen before and out of the play, but seen during the play. Sure it would be nice, So you would you bring him back. I would give him a shot man to compete, Yes, sir, I think that's a guy that could be a Yeah, rotational backup linebacker. You're gonna need that. But he's not gonna cost you a whole lot either. And you know what, Kurt, these guys we

were talking about bringing back and he signed it. What if the new staff ain't had got no love for him? That's true? I mean he had Richard in his corner. Yeah yeah, So are you ready to my friend Joe Thomas? Whoa man? He got the flu and got injured, and he was he that guy we saw before the flu in the injury man? Who if he's right though, he's another good Yeah? Yeah, this is now these this is an interesting one. Anthony brown Man banged up this year or hurt? I'm gonna say this here, man, I would

like to know. Was it the coaching staff or was it these guys don't have no talent? Because at one point, all of these guys exhibited some great talent. They were up and coming. They were the next the next big thing, right? What happened? Was it the technique of the new coach? But this new coach is Rishard? And I tell people a lot of times I'm kind of at a loss because he had a boom in Seattle and all limit is ball hawking in regardless of what teams they go

to with Sherman with he's still balling. So is it the players? Is it the coach? Is it a little bit that either neither didn't give it to the demise of the player. So I gotta I can't. I can't speak on Anthony Brown because I don't really know. Yeah, he's gonna be a tough one. Need you may need him. They're gonna let the marnel the marketing. Uh, Deonte Burton restricted free agent. He's a young guy. They'll get him cheap.

I'm sure I don't know enough about it. Yeah, either Cavon, that's a guy you could probably bring back cheap, but limited because they're looking for safeties now. They have gotten through two three years and if they don't go out and get some press and safetiest, people gonna lose faith. You can say that these guys are not valuable, but all through this league this year, safeties have played a

prominent part in teams winning and turning around programs. So you can say what you want, but it don't sound good when you say you don't value safeties, especially playmaking safeties. Unless they think Cabon's a true special teams ace, you know, and two or three of them, So unless that they may get let's pick it up for c J. Goobin don't know enough for me. It's kind of their special teams guys. So he's kind of the Cabana, the new Caon.

He's been there, their ace so speak. So Jeff problem. Yeah, he gonna he coming back. He's gonna either be a starter for me, uh, the next man up. He's he can be that great next man up. I believe that. Yeah, he can be that great next man up. Go get your playmaking safety and let him be that next guy, that third guy that that may come in the game. Because when Jeff Heath don't play a lot, he makes a whole lot more plays that He's kind of remind

me of of Lewis. If Lewis don't play a lot and you just spot play him here and there or put him at that inside, he can be a he could be a beast. But I think as you're playing longer and longer and people get the tail on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a guy. Wouldn't surprise you he retired though, he's he's been pretty bad. Yeah. Nah, that buy got too my dog in him. No, he won of the few dogs on this team. Yeah. Byron Jones an interesting one

because he's probably gonna afford it. Yeah, he's gonna command a lot of money. And this value would be more to another team than in wild hours because our fans is never going to accept him because he's not an interceptor. True. Darien Thompson another your back up safety. Maybe I don't know enough about him, um Special teams guys, LP. Yeah, he keeps snapping the ball, man as long as you know, and get that ball there. I'm with Hills. You don't

hear his name? Yeah? Right, and our last guy. And I think this guy probably played himself at leasted back into training camp Kai for Bath. It's amazing. It's amazing how nobody wanted him. It took us as US eighteen weeks to get rid of the one kicker, and that was the beast spot that costs us, help, cost us games. Then all of a sudden, we get a great kicker and the team fall abart around him. Hey, that's not one thing, it's another. Yeah, man, I gotta get out

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show of this season, recap is Us two Clowns. Yeah, the Raidings ought to just be booming after this. Easy. I can help you guys out of it. Makes it easy on Kyle though, because he only has to have one camera angle now. Yeah, I don't even have to switch it if I really wanted to. No need to too nice what you got pulled up over their kurt. When we were in the break, we were talking about

players contracts expiring. Um. Jane Slater, one of the local I think she's NFL network covering the Cowboys for them. She put out that when Garrett met with the coach's insistence today, he told those were the expiring contracts. You can look for work elsewhere, um, and that things would be sorted out in the next twenty four or forty eight hours. Although that's the looking elsewhere is kind of

something he always says to guys with expiring contracts. Those who do have expiring contracts include Christopher Shard, Gary Brown, tight Ends coach Doug nus Smyer Safety's coach Greg Jackson. So they have some other guys that we'll be looking for work, Mammy. Yeah, we'll see which you know if the change is made, Garrett is gone. I would hope that the new head coach could come in and hire

whever he wants, you know, pick his own folks. Yeah, he wouldn't be you know, lack of a better word, stuck with guys that are already here, you know, mandatory. But yeah, I think it's it's probably gonna be the most interesting offseason we've had since I've been here, probably think so. Yeah, just because you have this many guys that are free agents. Yeah, so the team's gonna look at some really big ones. Yeah, some some big names on there, some guys that have have been here their

whole career, Byron Jones, you know, guys like that. And then whatever happens with the coaching staff, whether it's the same head coach or a new head coach, and you know, you would think that there's gonna be some turnover with

assistant coaches one way or the other. Right, Um, So, I mean it's you know, usually the off season it's kind of same old, same old, But you know it's the team's gonna look and feel different no matter what happens next year with that that amount of free agents, and it's just gonna be an interesting off season to see what happens. Yeah, I think it's it's honestly one of the fans are maybe ready for in a way,

you know, as far as the coaching stuff. I mean, it's sort of bitter sweet for me because as a person, I really like Garrett's He's a good man, um, you know, but even I agree it's probably time for a new voice. Yeah. Do you think there's any way that he's Yeah, I just don't see happens back. No, I mean I think

it's that ship has sailed. For lack of a better word, that not that he couldn't do it, but I just think the the outside pressure and the results obviously have put us in this position where he's just not the right guy anymore, and it's unfortunate in some ways. So, man, who knows he may be ready for a change. I mean, he's kind of not only is he players may be tired of his message. He may be tired of giving that message the same players and dealing with the same

things that surround the Cowboys. He might be looking for a giant's gig or something like that. Yeah, I do know that they you know, whatever happened to the locker room. Usually, you know, we have photographers and videographers that go in. They pretty much shut the locker room down several minutes

before they allow people in. So you know, you kind of got the feeling, you know, for him and maybe for certain players, this was kind of their last you know, witting kind of you know, we talked about Whitten earlier. He as he was running off the field, he grabbed Sean Lee and they hugged, and he said something to him, and he walked off and he turned around, he yelled at Sean and he got Jeremiah, one of our photographers,

to take a picture of sewn together. Then he kind of walked back out on the field and he pointed. I guess he had family or friends or something on the other side of the stadium, and he kind of pointed and waved. And then instead of going back through the mill or light club where the team comes in and out where he always exits the field, he went all the way around the side of the field and high five and five. Ye we're down in the in the kind of the field level suite, so you kind

of definitely has a good bye field. You kind of got the feeling like maybe this was you know, the last time that he was going to do that, but you know, you never know, people change their minds. Yeah, but I have time to reflect on it. I think a lot of him coming back was Garrett and Garrett you know, safety net for whatever reason, you know, however you want to put it. So the fact that Garrett's probably gone, it might have spelled in for Witton anyway.

But you think he'll you know, we talked about Shawn Lee coming back in a kind of in a coaching aspect. Would you think Witton would come back and do that or do you think once he's done, he's done. Well, he's definitely going a coach. I think even before the the foray into the TV side, he had always talked about being a coach. So he will coach. But it's a good question whether he will here or not. I don't know if is he willing to be just the

tight ends coach here? And how would guys who were teammates with him last year, who you know, how much help they got, I don't know, then would they now pay attention that you know next year? So I almost wonder if he would be better offer him to go somewhere else and kind of learn the ropes of coaching and then come back. It's hard to say. I don't know. Yeah, maybe he goes to college. Yeah, you'd think Tennessee is

alma mater, would obviously be a landing spot. But then again, he's obviously the Jones family loves him, and he's got such great history here they may not want to see him go anywhere. Going back to this free agent list before we get out of here. Other than really, Dak on this list, I don't really see anybody on here that just jumps out at me that says, you have got to resign this guy. Yeah, I know it. I mean, Dak, maybe you could argue for Amari. Yeah, but you know

he's gonna he's gonna command a lot of money. You know, when you you you've tried the wide receiver thing by committee and did not work that well. You got Gallop that's a really solid number two, but he's had the drop sees a couple of games this year that I don't know if you really if you trust him to, you know, be your number one. You got Randall Cobb that had came in and did I think a lot, but he actually he hit his bonus. Didn't he in

that game? Did you have some kind of accelerator? I guess the only way it triggered was if they made the playoff. So he did his part, but the Dane they had to make the playoffs. He reached the yardage mark. But I think at least the word on among the reporters was post give him his money. Well, it's pretty good choker, sizable bonus. But but yeah, I mean he put up a one hundred yards receiving I mean that's out of a slot guy. That's a that's a good production. Yeah,

and he showed up when they need him. Yeah, you know, he was clutch. So if you don't bring back a mar then you, like said earlier, you really got to make wide receiver priority in the draft. Like yeah, I was talking about Yeah, Kyle, you just had some some news, right, Yeah, non Cowboys news. Was trying to kind of keep my polls on what's happening around the league. But Eli Manning let the Giants know, or let the Giants media know

that his time in New York is over with. He's still not sure if whether or not he's going to retire or not bring him here from the backup. You think he d we're talking about veteran backups instead of Rush. He'd be a good backup. I wonder if he would accept that kind of role. You know, that's a great question. I would take him as a backup. I mean he's he. I mean he owns AT and T Stadium. I mean his name was on the wall supposedly after that. I mean, he plays really well in his story gout so blown

out of proportion. But was that not the true story? No, it was, But it's it's a tradition for visiting locker room guys to have opponents signed the wall or something. You see it a lot of locker rooms, especially in baseball, where the wall will be covered with Hall of Fame opponents. And what made it bad was he it was the first game and he wrote this huge, you know, autograph and it got blown out. But it's a common thing

among visiting locker rooms. Yeah. Well, it's gonna be interesting around here in the next few days to see if any news comes down, because coaches have been coming and going left and right. I think Rivera signed in Washington last night, not officially officially, not officially a lot of interviews going on I would think Garrett would get some of those interviews. Yeah, like he supposedly reportedly told his assistant coaches, you know, next twenty four forty eight hours

may see a lot of changes. Yeah. Well, if you don't have the Cowboys app, download it because we'll have all the breaking news there. You can get push notifications for when things do happen. Yeah, and we'll be back tomorrow. What are we gonna talk about, Tim? You gonna take phone calls? Yeah? Should this to be the last show of law? It's gonna be a little cinema. May she

had a tier? Yeah, we can look back at the highs and lows of the or the good and the bad and the ugly of the season, maybe or MVPs that sort of thing. Yeah, maybe there'll be some some coaching talk. Maybe Nate will still be in the playoffs, and yeah, you can tell us how the games. Maybe Jesse'll actually show up well instead of that's debatable dropping from New Jersey branch or hanging out somewhere. Yeah, come on, I mean, if you're gonna name drop Jesse, let's do

a little bit better. I mean, a Dion Branch was a hell of a player, but you ran into Michael Jordan or whoever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Kyle, Hey Kyle, thank you for making the effort to be here. Literally job. Kyle walked by as we're discussing if Douglas was producing or not at one o'clock, and Kyle just rolls in at like one o'clock in twenty three seconds, and it was right on the buzzer. Were doing Were you doing a game or something? Had a wedding? I was a

groomsman in a wedding, so I was. I was in San Jose and I took a six am flight this morning commitment there. Yeah, I woke up at three fifty. I guess California times all for us, all for you guys. San Jose's a great city. It was my first time in Cali, and so I had a lot of fun out there. Yeah, it's San Jose's nice. I like San Jose. Yeah, stuff to do, but it's not too big, it doesn't feel like La, but it's still the it's been there in years, California vibe. So all right, Kurt, Well, thanks

for sticking out. Thank you sticking it out with me these last few minutes. Sir. We'll be back with the full crew tomorrow. Kyle, thanks for keeping us on the air. Kaden, thanks for not having anything to do with this show. Final show of two thousand nineteen tomorrow, Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.