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and Tostitos Plaza. Let's go star Frisco. Sixty eight degrees feels like sixty eight degrees, the high seventy four, the low to night's fifty one, and it's like it's very nice outside. When is winter going to get here? One? I love it? Is it? Y'all? Don't want to see winter? No? No, well, I don't to see the power outages and all that stuff, but I would like to see winter. I'd like it to snow on things on Christmas. It would be nice. Anyway. How are you guys, Kurt good? Yeah, good to see
you again. I'm glad you're here. Glad you're part of the team, are you? Yeah? What does that mean? You sounded like your little little disgrunt ground over before the show? Did I I'm sorry, I'm not How are you, Jesse, I'm fantastic, fantastic, Yeah, how are you? Nate? I'm good man, Cowboys for the start, its accepting game when it's free. Okay, so you call wait for Chris. How are you? I'm doing good? Thank you? Okay. Nate just calls me for no reason this morning, and I felt bad because I
figured if he got to me, nobody else answered. Right, Jesse wasn't ask the Kurt was gonna say he was doing something. So so why did you call me this morning? I call you just happy because the Cowboys is gonna be doing well this weekend, you know, playing right, and we're losing people to COVID, but it don't matter. We we we got enough to overcome. So you feel good this way? Yeah, I'm feeling good the rest of the year. Man still on the bandwagon. Thank Lawrence to be back,
ceedee Lamb would be back. This thing's starting to, you know, go my way. As if we turn in the corner just a little bit, not somebody punched somebody at the end of a game. Two games. It's gonna cost me a little bit, but hey, I can overcome that. You're surprised they're they're for five point favorites in New Orleans. Yeah, is not a good football team, Like, not a good football team, and you're starting a new quarterback. Um, you
know you're not having Trevor Siemion. You'll have Taysomi Tebow put two point oh a better Tim Tebow two point oh yeah more, which I'm I much rather play Taysom Hill. Yes, sir Trevor Simeon, would you? Yeah? Yeah, because Trevor Simeon is actually a quarterback and can do things from the quarterback position. I have no faith in Taysom Hill. Yeah. He might break some runs and he might do some things that you know to be elusive. But as far as him dropping back throw the ball thirty forty times
a game, I welcome that. All welcome that all day long. If he could do that and beat us, then we are booty juice. There's no way, there's no way at Taysom Hill should be able to be twenty eight or forty for three hundred yards and two touchdowns. There's no way. There's no way. The only thing that bothers me about him is what you said, the elusiveness and then the mobility and then breaking containment and then gashing him up the middle. That like, I'm with you, I don't think
he can he can out, he can throw you. I don't think he can beat you by throwing, but all that other stuff. This is the perfect time to go ahead and move Michael back to linebacker. Now that you're getting tanked back, you know, yeah, you know. And Tank won't play a bunch of plays like Nate said yesterday. You'll play fifteen, maybe twenty plays. Um, and those moments where he's out, you know, you can mix up where
you play Michael Parsons at but line. Michael parks up in the middle linebacker and just say, come on, tell you because you ain't faster than me, you ain't stronger than me. And whenever you break containment to go, just know the humble, the humble beast is coming to track you down. Can they afford I mean, I realized they have to limit Lawrence because he's just coming back. Can they really afford to? I mean, they just like another
defensive lineman. How are they gonna They haven't got much pressure other than you take away Parsons out of that defensive line. They haven't brought a lot of pressure. Yeah, you gotta look like you gotta him. There's no way he's in enough, good enough condition to go forty fifty sixty snaps. There's no way, Like you'll do more damage
than you will helping him, playing him not much. And what will end up happening is those moments when you really need him to get home and these gas and doesn't get home and now Tasom may have a little bit more time and he throws one of those you know, yolo balls or somebody down the field. So I think using him sparingly throughout the game, you know, and more so just in those for sure passing downs. Third is that when you use him like when you need him
to get home. Yep, just pick your spots and be like your spot. We need, we need to stop right, we need to sack, we need Viteo tips. Let's mix it up and let's give them different looks. Let's line you up on the right, Let's line you up on the left. Let's do you know a little bit of a you know twist with you and Mica. Let's just mix it up something you know with them out there.
But anything more to me than twenty snaps unless there's a significant amount of defensive lineman injuries that happened throughout the course of the game. If you have no choice, you have no choice. But I think for him coming back after missing what how many games does he missed? Eight? Nine, ten? I don't even know. He's been out twelve. Yeah, he's missed he played on even playing one game, right, So I mean he's missed almost three months of football. Yeah,
eleven games. So so do you limit I don't think he limits CD because his injury was nine injury related, it was concussion. But Amari coming back missing what a game or two? He missed two games? Well, he say he feeling sickly, so Amari may not play thirsty he's feeling sickly. So yeah, that's why I said we got cdee Lamb back. He gonna have to come up big, and you don't limit him at all. He shouldn't good to go, right. If he good to go, he'll be
good to go. Yeah. Mike McCarthy said that Amari doesn't practice tomorrow, that he won't play. You got CD. You got Michael Gallup. Uh, we don't know about Wilson. He was limited us today. Yeah, so you got your got him. The league Turner, we gotta we got enough. Uh. All we need is for the offensive line to be intact and to be a one accord, and we should be okay, we should be okay. We gotta worry. I mean when you say that because we thought we had enough last week.
Oh man, we got enough this week. We got enough because we know who the guys are from right to left. We know who the starters are, and they know who the starters are. They've had ample enough rest, ample enough time to think, let's go to work. So you feel good about the offensive line even though Kurt That says that the defensive line of the Saints is ranked second by Football Beast. They're nice, but you feel okay about it. Oh yeah, man, I'm telling you because I tell you what.
You've been pretty spot on this year when when it comes to calling out guys and guys that are gonna have a field day and how the lines match up. So if you say you feel good, then I feel good. The reason I feel good is called and this wait wait, this ain't old bandwagon cowboy Homer seventeen and old names. This is real, real, all right. The reason I feel good is because now Dad gets to build up a rhythm, and he gets to build up a rhythm, and it
all comes down to our quarterback. If Dak he likes cdee Lamb, he likes Turner, he likes all of these guys. What we need for them to do is just catch the ball. Now. I think you've seen the bad Dak, and that's about all we're gonna see. They know now, and I'm thinking that as an office a coordinator, we're not gonna mess around these first ten to twelve pass We're gonna get the ball out of hand. We're gonna you're looking at this defense, you ain't gonna hold this ball.
You're gonna get the ball out of your hands, whether it's a tony, whether it's too a quick one to see thee Lamb, You're gonna get this ball out of your hand. Now. If you're gonna sit up there and hold this ball, then I gotta write the change how I think, because you ain't gonna be so you feel good about the offensive line as long as they get
the ball. Sometimes you gotta realize what you're facing. And I'm facing a beast off a defensive line, but they will fall like everybody else if I realize okay, boom. I gotta get this ball. I gotta get my players in space. I gotta have something happen good to get my momentum. But if we go out there and three and out and they come out there with that funny running dude, what you call him two point old dude, Yeah, and he gut us up early, now we're going to
a panic motive. But we got a pass, pass pass. We can't do it. We're not gonna survive. That's just how I feel. Yeah, my only concern is what's your guy? Lyle Collins hasn't played well, um all year, And when you go back, when you go back and look at it, it's been it's been really eighteen months since Lyle Collins has played a good game, a good brand of football. And we've seen a lot this year. His technique has been off. Um. He's been doing a lot of lungeon.
You see him straight legged, you see him you know, catching over catching um. Now, you would think because he's from right, he's from that area, so you would you would think that he would kind of get gassed up because he's gonna have people in town and want to show off in front of his family and friends. But
that's gonna be a matchup to watch. Um, when you look at what they have up front, I mean they got you know, Cam jordanism Beast, Marcus, the Mario Davis like these dudes like they are relentless and they are not going to stop coming. And they understand m as a young kids say nowadays, they understand the assignment. They understand Drew Brees ain't walking through that door. They understand that, you know, they don't have a franchise quarterback walking through
that door. They know. The only way that they're going to truly be able to compete in a lot of these football games is what they're able to do on the defensive side. If they're able to get some stops, if they're able to put teams in long down and distance, create some turnovers with their pressure because they got good cornerbacks outside, they got the veteran Malcolm Jenkins. I feel like we've seen we played Malcolm Jenkins the Eagles, we
played Michael Jenkins with the Saints. Um, what you know, we played Michael mc Michael Jenkins knows the Dallas Cowboys, and we know Michael Jenkins, Malcolm Jakes. Excuse me, uh you know Marcus Williams, you know marshawn A Lottimore. These guys are going to be looking to make some places. And if you don't have Amari Cooper again, now you have those guys who are gonna have to step up and make place. Right, Malik Turner may have to step up and make a couple of plays. Uh, Noah Brown
might have to make a couple of places. So it's gonna be imperative that upfront that Lyo Collins finds his mojo, his mojoe moment and get back to excuse me, get back to what he was eighteen months ago, because its defensive line ain't no joke, and and and and then and it got it. Don't get talked about. It's number ninety pronounced his name, good luck. Yeah, he got through. Let me try this, Let me try this. Um, I look down there even I can't even pronounce even how
they break it down. Tono passing? Yo. Yeah, so he got four or five sacks. Look at their sack list and name out those. But I still feel good because our quarterbacks he has not played well. He's last three or four games, he hasn't played well early. Yeah, in the last four a game, yeah, couple. Yeah, but he's come on judging by we, judging by winst you and
he ain't. We ain't won because he ain't played well early enough to keep U Does it bother you that that he's brought up communication issues and you're going in because I like I like Jesse. O, man, I say this. Oh god, I'm saying it in a nice way. Don't attack Jesse. I shouldn't even brought fans this. This is the he did not say no disrespect, but I'm about
to disrespect you. No, no, no no, no, no no. I believe this that if you're a second stream, a third stream, and fourth stream and a fifth stream receiver, I don't believe that you can do what Amari, see D and Gallup can do as a group. I don't believe that these guys can do that. You know, at last week you said do your job. You know it ain't that easy. Yeah, I mean your job as a third or fourth teeper just catching the ball. That's a simple assignment. It is.
But if they was, If it was that simple, we wouldn't have these other guys. We just spoke. Oh you know what I'm saying, because no one, no one would be the man. Uh, Wilson would be the man, but they not and and what he works on out there, even though they rotate receivers that you you said yourself, this route is built for this guy. This route has built this guy. You was just fortunate that Tony didn't care who it was built for. He was gonna throw
you the ball. Yeah, paint was a little bit more. So, I'm just being honest. No, it does make a difference. No, You're absolutely right. Like I said a week ago, it means something. When when when when that comes to the line of scrimmage and you know, he sees a defense and he looks out there and it's Malik Turner and he goes, does Malik Turner know this is cover four? Yeah? Does he know that he has to convert this route? Right? When it's a Maria Cooper, it's no brainer. It's like, oh, Marie, okay,
we see the same thing. I don't have to say anything, right, you know that when Troy Michael right, it's just that communication you have with your with your top guy, or when you look out and you know to the slot and normally it would be ceedee lamb, when now it's Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown, and he's like, does he know he has a hot route right here? And so now he's like, oh sack or it's a bad throw,
you know. So that that that does take place, but early on you got to just make sure that communication is there and you have to overcommunicate. If Dak Prescott is feeling that or there has been an issue before that, he has to overcommunicate. He look, hey, look at that. Safety comes you go like let him know. I don't care, but you can do it. Like I was wondering, how
do you how do you fix that? When the guy's you know, twenty yards or whatever way, you point to him and be like listen, you'd be like hot route, like let him I say this, if this joker come, did you see wedding crashers hot route? Hot route? I'm gonna tell it can be done because I saw Brett Farb do it to us up in Green Bay for like fifteen plays. He just was literally he coming and wasn't that what he could do? You could just see
Darren Woodson face change. I'm like, ah, he calling us, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't worry. You got this because he's backing up what he like. I'm backing up. I mean, when you're that good, but that was a different level. It's only a few guys that I look at me and they just know. Well, if y'all call him Dak Prescotty elite, then he has to over communicate to his team and then get that done. All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
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all right, Kurt, what you want to talk about? Man? You got a whole bunch of notes where you want to go next? A bunch of where were talking about the Saints defense? I wanted to ask you guys, you know the Denver coach with the blueprint and of how to face them, and you know, we've seen the receivers have seen a lot of press man coverage. It sounds like, are we gonna see that now out of ye Saints? And yeah, they have that the corners to do it. They have the guys you do, Yeah, they got corners
done exactly. Feeling me with confidence here, then, no, I'm just doing they do they do? I mean they got a good pasture rush and kirks like, help me out here. I'm trying to grab onto something good pass rush and press quarters that are good? So what do we do the thing that they are? They are hurting momentum wise, they are hurting like everybody else. They they got the players, but we can't give them the confidence. Jesse's harped on it all last week, all last week, and we're harping
on it again. That's what I'm saying. Them first six, seven, maybe ten or twelve plays, get that ball out of your hand getting the balls. Don't have no long development plays. You know, she's stay ahead of the chain, get some momentum, because that's get some momentum without it. And and here's
the here's the biggest thing. You know this, Sean Payton understands exactly what this football team is, right and when it was constructed, it was constructed in a way that you know, everything ran through Drew Brees and they were able to score points because Drew Brees was such a just a savant at the quarterback position. And now he understands that we just don't have that. We just don't have that. You know, we thought we had something with
Jameis Winston, he went down. You know, we thought we had something with Trevor Simeon and he's benched, and now we're all the way down to Taysom Hill. This team is going to rely heavily on their defense, and this is going to be one of those games that's going to be Ken Dak. I know why people hate saying that you're always putting stuff on Dak. Yeah, when you pay a guy forty den million dollars a year, you
gotta erase a lot of mistakes. Okay, you gotta be able to go out there and and will your team to a victory. I doubt that the New Orleans Saints will be able to score a ton of points. Now here's the thing that you have to look out for. Talk about being disciplined. With Taysom Hill. There's going to be some trickery, right, There's gonna be some reverse pass, There's gonna be there's gonna be something, and it's gonna be early. Hear what I'm saying. Uh, Trey Kwon Smith
is a is a blazer. Right. What New Orleans wants nothing more is to get a big play earlier in the game and that roof will come off that place. And if that happens, now you're playing that catchup mode again.
And now they go up seven nothing. Guess what, Demario Davis and that crew, and and and Jordan and that crew, and and and these guys look at the Cowboys as a team that they always want to beat, because people look at the Cowboys as America's team or as a standard of what football is across the league, and they take pride and like, you know what, screw these jokers, Let's go out here and beat them. So they're gonna try to come out early in this football game and
create some sort of momentum. I guarantee you within the first seven players, we don't see some sort of trickery or they try to bang a big play. So Anthony Brown, if you're listening, you better be disciplined. Son, you better stay home. Trayvon Digs, you better stay home. Don't jump, don't bite, because they're going to try to make you know, little Jordan Humphries, these guys that don't, they'll line these
guys up in the backfield. They'll they'll run all these different little these little things to try to just because they have to manufacture points. They just can't line up anymore and like the Drew Brees days and just beat you methodically down the field when Drew Brees was the quarterback. About that running game, though, take those guys back, That's what I'm saying. That's what I was gonna. Actually look
up Kamara and Ingram because they've been saved. Ingram didn't play last week, did either, but the Kamara been out, so Ingram's back full in practice. Kamara is still limited. And I'm telling you, man, it ain't a dude that runs harder than the Ingram. I mean, he runs hard, bro I'd rather see Ingram Kamara though, four rush for Ingram, but he runs so see Kamara. He hits you with some smooth power. Ingram hit you with raw brutal power. It is ugly in the fourth quarter if he if
he's still walking around swoll up and talking. Come on, man, but this this game, this this game, this game will be determined um on the shoulders of Dak Prescott and he has to come out and play a all this game,
Christ Chris. He has to get back to finding his rhythm right, he got it, And I wouldn't be so I wouldn't mind seeing him come out and open up because when you know when Dak is really good, when he's able to run a two minute, just let him just let him come out this, Let him come out the gate run two minutes, especially when you're talking about the noise. Just let him come out and call everything from the line, like, let's not get a huddle, Let's not give him time to get ramped up, Let's not
give him time to kind of focus in. Let's just go and let me just call this at the line of Scrimmas. And I can get everybody where I need them to get to. And because he plays well in that in that system, I think getting him off to a great start is crucial, that paramount. If you did that. If you did that, you kick out, you score, you score seven, you kick off to them, and you stop
them on their first offensive drive. Game over, I think. So. I think if you go down score seven first, and you stop them with the with the three and out or you know, two first downs and it out, I think the game's over. Man. But if they come out, like you said, if you come out and let them score, and if they score a touchdown on you first, I think it's gonna be a tough, tough, tough, long night. Man. I'm gonna be texting you while you're there, like, what
is it like? You know what I'm saying, because you're gonna be able to You're gonna like and you it gets so loud and know you can feel it. I'm gonna see y'all some videos like it's crazy how loud it gets in there. It's it's I don't know how to explain it. You have to just at some point in time in your life experience it, because yeah, like it almost moves. It almost moves like the hair on your body, like you can you can feel the it's it's it's yeah. The intensity is is in there and
you can feel it. So how does a team with you're trying to communicate if you don't have that time in the huddle and you're calling at the line, Didn't that make it a tougher? Nah? Nah, No, because you're gonna you're telling the offensive linement. Hey, right right, right, right right, you say yo, fifty five to mic, fifty five to mic, and then I'm going outside. Hey, hey, we're going here, We're going here. Let's go, here we go. It's it's all maybe hand signals. Yeah, ok, let's go.
Get up to the line of scrimmage. Here we go left left left, left, left, left left, Or you can run the same player a couple of times, right, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, sto run the same player a couple of times, you know, with different options off of it. And because you're and then because you're going so fast, you could literally walk up down a line of scrimmage. Hey, hey, hey, listen, talk to each twenty a lot. Come on, come on, come on, Okay, all right, we got it. Now, let's
go and hand signal everything else. And again that keeps them off balance because now they have to hurry up. They can't get comfortable, they can't get set. And the biggest thing is you want to keep that crowd out of this game. It is it is a It is a is a factor. Why are they slowed? Or like I heard him talking about, why didn't they go to this hurry thing sooner against the Raiders? I mean, why don't they come out quicker in that kind of offense?
Great question? Kelling on the show next week? All right, let's take our last break. When we come back, we'll get our predictions. Would be the last show before Friday, and then we'll turn it over to Kurt for Hurt's Corner. Oh, hang it with the boys, Brace yourself for an existential question. Has your butt been having enough fun lately? Have you been treating it well? Has it been going places? If not,
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shoot him with that big gun? Damn? Was that the sniper rock? Was that just sip night? Now? That's like he never saw that one coming. No, I ain't work. Don't you know. Elves don't have heads as big. They got all tiny features. Keepler elves. Do Let me look at the Keebler ones. Check those out. Those might be the ones that I beat you to that. Yeah you are, Yeah, the keys let me see checked him out. No, he's normal, not the keeblers and I know how the big heads. No,
he pretty normal. That's a big head. Oh well, no, Chris, I'm not working over there. I got enough going checking. Thanks for though. Yeah. No Cross talked to Mars Shannon going out of town. No Cross talk. We had C. J. Goodwin on Cowboys Hour last night. Great dude, I love him. He's one of my favorite dudes on the team. He should be near and dear to Jesse's heart. He's a he's a lifer. He's a special team's lifer. CJ. Goodwin. Oh yeah, yeah, he's a solid. He's a solid. He
does get it. He likes that role. Yeah, yeah, he liked. He reminded me, honestly, a lot of Jesse, uh, because we asked him, Brad asked him when he realized that that, you know, he needed that special teams was important, you know, when he embraced the special team's role. He said, as soon as he stepped on the field, and he knew
that's where his check was gonna come from. And he said that, And he played Division two college and he had only played in front of about three to five hundred fans, and when he stepped on the field in Pittsburgh, he knew that he wanted to do whatever he needed to do to stay and he got he got dropped by like five different teams in the off season and need needed one more year to get his pension and was like, I got I got a fame, I got two kids, and I need to do whatever it takes
to get my pension to because pension is a big deal. It's a lot of money, a lot for you for the rest of your life, and he was like, whatever I need to do. And he loves special teams, so like literally I was like, Okay, do I go back in and work security or do I hit this dude who's three hundred pounds on his kickoff full blasts? One way or another, I'm not going back to do this security. So either I'm gonna die out here on the field they're gonna bury me, or I'm gonna make a little
bit of money and do this thing. You're gonna be dragging a three hundred pounder with cuffs. You get to hit one first. Really really cool. Yeah, cool story about him though, the way he got no one, no one signed him. He didn't go to he didn't go to the Combine, he didn't get an invite. No one was really interested in him. And Mel Blunt Pittsburgh Steelers fame.
He he worked on mel Blunt's farm as a farm hand for like seven years and mel Blunt talked to the Steelers to give him a try out and they liked him and signed him, and that's how he got started. How many years he has been in the league. He's been in the league four or five years, seven seven. He's good, he's been here for he's good and he was he was around for vested he got Kurt. Yep, he's vested three years and three talking games. Three years and three games? Right, I don't name what are you
talking about him? Yeah? Somebody tweeted us, not that Curt. Somebody tweeted us after the Thanksgiving game and said, no more player interviews on the show. Please. Our guy Claire's tweeted earlier. He's asking if we could interview some of the Saints cards right there? All right, Kurt? What you got man? Last five minutes of yours? Well, we were
talking in the break about so I got killed. We were talking to break something about the running backs and Zeke and the running game has not been good since the bye week. They were I think ranks second going into the bye and since the buy in the last four games or twenty eight and can this team win without a running game? And what do they do about Zeke? They need to rest him, They need to put Zeke on on the shelf and get Tony and the other kid what is his name, jess Corey Clement, Let him play?
Let him play? Uh, and stop with the excuse of Tony Poler kid pick up blitz blocks and on that. If Tony Poler can't pick up blitz block that he don't need to be on the team. Okay, blocking is one too, that's it's it's it's ninety percent one to ten percent technique. Find out who the hell you gotta block and go block them. It's a little bit more than that. It's about seventy percent once you get at least for guys up front, but for backs, for skill guys, it's a lot of want to man like. It ain't
slamming your body up in there. That's it. That's it. Just go running to him. Make the whole See that, coach Brosky, you tell guys who if he had align I mean scuba running back that couldn't block blitz is real. Well, he say, I'm gonna get you the guy. We're gonna make sure you know who to block, he said. But the quicker, you can get to him and close the hole up there, said, the clothes you can get into the offensive line. The better block of you're gonna be.
Just make a mask, let him get back past him that front way. Then we go. Tech be coming to play. So he used to run these guys, just tell him where to get right off in that hole, so you won't you know? Yeah, So is it weird that it seems like the team has been real careful with certain players, you know, Dak Week, the markets is taking a long time coming back Gallimore. Yet they keep running Zeke out there. The man they're gonna get all that fifteen million, be like,
all right, we're done with you. Yeah, but Zeke quit running out to him? Man, what's more important? I mean, this game against the Saints against a strong one of the best run defenses in the league, or you got all these division games. This is this is the thanks even game that all of us talk about. Uh, and I'm talking about what do you do starting Thanksgiving? What's your record? And what do you do with these last
six games? And if you can rest Zeke and giving these ten days before the next game, that's be the best thing. If you can win this game, great, If not, its gonna look ugly and it's gonna be messy. You're gonna be seven and five. But now these next five games, you got to make a run and you got to have everybody. Uh, that's that's that's possible. You know, I was gonna say swinging, but I ain't gonna do that. Everybody that's possible to be able to play. I'm serious you,
it ain't nor more. That's saves Z, that's save Amari, that's it's now anybody that is capable of playing played them. Because everybody's making the runs. Get after everybody's making the runs. Some teams are setting up for you know, I'm gonna be a top four team. Do I have a legit shot at having that single buy in the NFC. Everybody's positioning themselves. Coaches ain't gonna talk about it, but coach coach mccarthur and his group, they are talking about it.
Mister Jones, them are talking about it. Players, you know you still one by one by one, but everybody is playing about it. We're talking about it. After this game here, whatever wherever you sit, you gotta have a winning record at the end of these five or six games. You got to have four and two, three and three, ain't gonna get it. Four and two, five and one. That's where you have to sit. Jess. You gotta think you
need to add yeah, you gotta have. You gotta have that clench your division and then also trying to take take a take out of Arizona. Yeah, I mean that'll that'll help your sea statement, that'll help your seeing it. It'll make a statement, and it'll kind of set you in a pretty good position heading into the playoffs. Do teams like I don't know whether it's coaching staff or the players or whatever, things change when December comes around.
The grind is on you. You You, you and your coaching staff have either put the culture in you of who you are and what you do best, and you trying to highlight all of that because the grind. You're in the middle of the grind, but only the elite. And that's what I'm saying. I would like to know if Tank Laurence still elite, is Randy Gregory gonna be elite? We know, Parsons, this plant, this is where you're guys. This is why they make the money, This is why
they have the name. They step up, and the guys like such as myself and Jesse, we just continue to maintain. All we gotta do is maintain and the other guys should shine. Yeah, you can't be you can't be still trying to figure yourself out to December. Thank you, Like you gotta know that there has to be a definitive understanding of who we are, what's our identity, what's our plan,
how we're going to move forward. And if you're still trying to figure things out in December, you're either gonna have a very your recless season's gonna end of your year, or you're gonna have a very short time in the playoffs. December is money, Like, December is the money money month. Yeah, like you should be peaking. You want to be peeking in December, New England. Yeah, And I'm telling you. Jimmy
used to tell us Rat before the playoffs. Rat, you know, Rat going end in the season, two or three games left, all going into the players, Jim and be like, and we knew it's coming sooner or later. It's called hanging by you. He would say, you know, hanging by your ends, you know, and uh and uh. He say, even Nate Knuke can hang by hills for four games. I'm like, coach, that's that's a lot of way, you know what. I'm
a long time so but that was his speech. That was, we know who we are, we know where we were positioned, we know where we're trying to get, and you can be able to hang you know, and we used to take that serious man for that that one game. Because if you don't win that, if they starting aufter this Saints game, whatever happened, happened. We're getting players back every week. Everybody should stop feeling no matter what happens. Yeah, you gotta they cannot. Let's say they lose this game and
they're seven and five. What you have just made it where you gotta win four games. You have because you don't want to be ten. Ten games ain't on more good in this league. It's eleven is the benchmark. So you gotta win four games. However, you gotta win them. If you gotta go into playoff mode with some of your plays. You gotta win these games because they be ten and seven. Does this team, I mean they've had so many guys in and out of the lineup. Lawrence
has been out most of the year. Do they know who they are? They better? They're better. That's why I'm saying these next two or three games, they better crank it up. If if if ninety seven is your gout the young Osa, if that's your guy, that's your guy. But you gotta we gotta give him some rest. That's why we don't. We didn't need for Tristan Hill was a big blow. Now now you put more pressure on these young guys to even rise up even further. We
need we need Gallimore back. We need Tristan Hill back, so so we can see seventy five show up again. It's I got the number right, seventy nine seven ninety seven. We need for him. We ain't seen him in four weeks. I just saw him on on on a milk carton. Oh I just if you've seen this guy, please report him to the Cowboys, which is to you know what I'm saying. We need him back. All the way we're gonna get him back is to get less reps so he can be more energetic. All right, we gotta get
out of here before Chris kills us. Kurtis I mean the first show been late for the whole but swee, but I'm hungry. Okay, all right, Brito Bowl call him on the So what's your real name? You got so many? You know, I don't know? Better? Be glad I'm on this show. I'm the whipping boy on this show. That's fine, I'll take it. It's weird on a Wednesday, Kurt, But yeah, what is your prediction is Tuesday. It's even more weird
on the day. I think I think the talent one went out their overall better team and they'll win, which we each on my newing all this, No, Cowboys don't have to say, you know who got the better defense. Now it'll be like twenty four fourteen. You know he said fourteen he's not very good. Twenty four fourteen. Date what you got. We're gonna winit a buy one, It's gonna be a skinny one. Jesse, I think this is doc. If you're listening, this is this is your time to shine,
right you you're another one from this area. Yehow up, show up big, show out, Show up big. I got Cowboys thirty Saints fourteen. Back to third, hen Chris Choice, I'm gonna go thirty five, twenty one, thirty five, twenty one. Mama gross Is the Cowboys are giving up four and a half. She's going Cowboys thirty one Saints seventeen, and
I'm gonna go Cowboys twenty seven Saints seventeen. We're goin to start hot, man, Dad gotta start hot, to start hot, I'm with you, gotta start hot with you, all right, fellow back on the TV. We're gonna see y'all hopefully hopefully on victory uh, victory Friday. It will be a late night for me and Chris Thursday and Wednesday two Hunt Chris, Yes, right, yes there, let's go. Let's go. Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Kurt, thanks for
being here. Jesse Nate, thanks for bringing it dot Nate, the Holly's Hopping Heads brother Will, thanks for keeping us on the air on the live streams. We'll be back Friday. Victory Friday's gonna say nice things about the Cowboys helping hey, well the boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
