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Guys, you're not going to believe this. It's a pretty little episode with me, Mae Martin, and my handsome co-host, Fortune Feamster. Good morning. Good morning, Mae. how are you good to see you bud yeah you too i'm not usually i'm wearing a hat but i'm not well i um couldn't get my act together today i woke up really early thinking like I'm going to go get a coffee and I'm going to go tread my water. Yeah. And the coffee journey ended up taking like an hour and a half.
because i went to this place like a further away because there it's these really good coffees and um the traffic sucked and then the line was like out the door and yeah no treading water so that's why i've not You look absolutely stunning.
You look absolutely stunning. I also went on a coffee walk this morning. Mornings are rough for me, but I was like, I'm going to take a page out of Fortune's book and like, get up and and then i went to the silver lake reservoir and i was walking around it's so hot and sunny like it's it's very hot today it's bacon hot and fortune i found basically the epicenter of
handsome listeners, I think. You did? Silver Lake Reservoir. I think six separate people were like, keep it handsome like it was so uplifting and the best one was i just as i was getting ready to leave and this amazing woman goes i just hear behind me is that my handsome maid? And I'm like, yes, it is. And then she comes, this amazing woman, and I'm like, what are you up to today? She goes, I was just watching Handsome on YouTube.
And then she said, well, I'm doing my slow walk. And she was with a few people. I'm like, well, what's a slow walk? And she goes, you get a group of people together. And the only rule is you walk as slow as the slowest person. Okay, I like that. Isn't that nice? Yeah, a nice little amble around.
You gotta make sure you don't have fast friends. Yeah, no fast friends. No fast friends are invited to this chat. Yeah, no, you stay. I love that so much. Maybe I'll have to go to have coffee with you sometime at the reservoir. Dude, if you need to just walk around going...
looking around looking around and the nice thing is that all everyone has dogs so i met a bunch of good dogs i met these two dogs called lulu and zuko lulu was like this shiny golden retriever like full of beans little little pink uh collar and like and then zuko different vibe zucca was like like a little kooky and uh kind of like black like i think a cattle dog of some sort yeah but they were an odd pair of these two and i just thought i wonder
if Zuko resents Lulu for being like so people-pleasy and everyone loves Lulu like I was loving Lulu and then I thought you know it's probably a lot of pressure for Lulu too like some days she wants to just be A little runt. And which one was the golden retriever? Lulu. Lulu. Yeah, and she just was like, I'm the star pupil. Of course.
I mean, golden retrievers are just full of life. It's hard not to just love all of them immediately because they also come with that good energy. Such good energy. Yeah, but then Zuko, I was like... There's depth there and Zuko needs support too. I went to Runyon Canyon yesterday and was around a ton of dogs. met two golden retrievers, met a three-legged palm. What's a palm? Oh, a Pomeranian. Okay.
do you bring biggie on these walks or no no it was too hot for him yeah yeah yeah these dogs were a little bit meatier except for the well the three-legged palm was just taking a little Tiny trip in his mom's arms, but obviously not hiking. Yeah. But yeah, there's something about being around a bunch of dogs. Is Runyon Canyon where you met?
Jeff Probst? Or you see celebrities there, right? You're hiking around. There's two canyons that are popular. Runyon's one, and Fryman is the other one. Runyon's the Hollywood... in the middle of Hollywood, Freiman's, more the valley, Studio City. Okay, I think I gotta go to Freiman's. Freiman, so Runyon is like... More uphill, more inclined, a little bit tougher. It's a bit more scene-y, I think. Oh, okay, yeah. Freiman, you'll see people here and there.
There's an uphill part, but it's not as crazy. I love the idea of a sceny hike. That would be Runyon, yeah. Okay, I'm going to go to Runyon then. I want to see probes. I don't do Runyon very often. But I went there to meet a bunch of dogs. I love it. Yeah. Good to start your day walking around in the sun. It sure is. That's the beauty of LA. It has a bad rap, but...
A lot of sunshine. A lot of sunshine. Hiking is very popular. No one walks in the city, but they will hike. Yes, and a lot of nice little coffee shops. I had... A corn cake, I want to say, for breakfast. It was like a corn... bread muffin but inside was marmalade orange marmalade there's a lot of good coffee shops in silver lake hell yes i never say hell yes but felt right in the moment hell yes and you can walk till you're walkable where you are
I actually did take an Uber to the reservoir. I could have walked, but I took an Uber Black to the walk. Uber Black! You are hilarious that you take these fancy Uber places. I don't know why I do it. It's a habit I have to break. Well, sometimes when you look on the app, they're the same price. Oh, well, if it's the same price, then yeah, but if you're just going like 10 minutes down the road, you don't really need it anymore. No, it's psychotic, but I think what I like about it is...
They wait for 15 minutes. And you're never ready. Never ready. I always, I'll book my Uber when I'm still in bed in my pajamas. Oh my god. And then I'm like, shit, I gotta, and then I get up, I rinse. You're like, I'm paying for you to wait for me, buddy. And I always have to message them going, be right there. And they go, okay. And then I get it and I always say, thanks for waiting. And they go, okay. Yeah, I'm very like...
I'm very time oriented. Yeah, that's why you're so successful. I know the exact amount of time I need to do everything. And so I usually have it pretty mapped out in my head when I need to call the oobs. Do you get like guilt if you don't? Like if you have an evening where you're doing... fuck all do you have like a feeling in your stomach like i should be using this time no i i mean as busy as i am and like as crazy as my schedule gets i love um a sit on the couch and do nothing right
Yes. Or a Sunday afternoon. I do not. Sweat it. I'm like, I haven't done anything. I don't care. I'm in my sweatpants. Because I know how hard I work. And I'm like, I know I'm not lazy. Yeah. But I will have a lazy day here and there because I need it. That's really nice. I saw Sinners the other day. Oh, yeah? Loved it. Everyone's.
said such great things about it well i like vampires i'm a vampire guy like there's something horny about vampires oh so horny so horny right yeah and the person i saw it with did not know it was a vampire movie so like half an hour into it her 40 minutes when it was revealed to be vampires like she thought it was just a western so she was like what the fuck which was pretty juicy it is important to know what's about vampires going into it
Or let it surprise you. Or a real twist. Yeah. Hey, should we see what our listeners want to ask us today? Yellow cowboy. Yeah, let's do it. Hi, Hansomes. This is Katie from Portland, Oregon. I'm a veterinarian and a big animal lover, and I know you all love animals too. I love hearing about Kitty City, Biggie with his big sparkling lively eyes, and the little tiny pups that May had recently.
My question for you is, if you could be reincarnated as any animal, what would you want to come back as and why? Oh, incredible question. Incredible. Well, I have a theory that people are either birds or dogs.
Really? I think of the handsome world, I think maybe Tig might be a bird? I can see that. I think we're dogs, maybe? Nah, Tig has sort of... australian cattle dog energy too sometimes but um so i think dog and i think having just spoken about golden retrievers like i think that'd be pretty good because the thing about golden retrievers is they
take the love they're given and they're thrilled about it like i don't think they're ever going oh i need like i wish i had no needs and i could just wait for somebody to get home and then shower them with love and not have any needs and gold retrievers seem oblivious to like bad stuff
Oh, they're not stressed about climate change. No, they're too blessed to be stressed. Too blessed to be stressed. Yeah, golden retriever or like a dolphin would be cool, but I think they've got the weight of the world on their shoulders. They're too smart. What about you? I mean, I know this is weird because Biggie is right here. He really does have the best life.
I would say Pomeranians in general seem to be well taken care of. Their owners are obsessed with them. Yeah. There's few times I've seen a Pomeranian not being doted on.
by many how funny that we both chose animals based on like receiving constant love from humans like we both the only bummer is that dog don't live long enough that's fine like let me shuffle off the moral coil when it's all become too much you know like i just today was talking to someone and being like shuffle off i don't know that i fear
i mean obviously god forbid like don't want to don't want to perish but i do i've read enough like mystical things and seen enough like people who've had near-death experiences stuff that i'm like i think it is just like
a huge relief and you get absorbed into some universal love and peace and i'm like i think that'll be fine the sadness comes from the people you leave behind that's true because they're still uh dealing with that grief yeah yeah but yeah so i don't mind a golden retriever is what 14 years 12 to 14. Yeah, is that not enough? I don't know. Do we really need more than that? Poms can be anywhere from 13 to like 19. Really? Yeah, it just depends.
Oh, fuck, you know what would be cool though? Biggie's 11. Oh, cutie. You know those giant tortoises? There was one that was around when Darwin was around, and it lived like... a hundred years this tortoise that's that's definitely too long but maybe time moves at a different speed when you're just lumbering around yeah i don't want to live i i would like somewhere in the middle yeah but i don't know i mean there's there's this Greenland shark that
has been alive since Napoleonic times. It's like 400 years old. It's still alive now. Yeah, no thanks. No thanks, right? No thanks. Just blind and floating through the ocean, kind of confused. Even with humans, when they're like... you know martha just celebrated her 108th birthday i'm like no really don't want that Some people just know they can save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate first.
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So if I can still read and understand books, I could just hang on for another couple decades just reading and catching up, even if I'm sitting in a chair. All right. Well, let's hear Katie's answer. Yes, please. Unlike folks who choose a majestic wild animal like an eagle or a dolphin, I'm not interested in coming back as a creature who has to really work for a living. I would choose to be a pampered house cat.
These cats have it so freaking good. They sleep 18 hours a day. They have a full staff caring for their every need, often overfeeding them. Some even have a custom catio to enjoy. A catio. They've really got it made. So I choose a house cat. Katie is in line with her thinking. They sleep 18 hours a day, for real? That seems like a lot. 18? I've never had a cat, so I don't know. All I know is that they seem to really come alive at night when you're trying to sleep, and it's just these like...
irregular patterns of like across the house. And don't they like jump on their owners like heads and stuff for the middle of the night? Right. Well, that's the thing they say, that it could fall asleep on your head and suffocate you. Oh. Well, this is why I'm dog. Yeah. I'm dog. Yeah, Biggie just saddles up to me and lays... Like, he just, like, lays in my nuts.
you mean like uh like where my knee like you know where your knee's kind of been oh he'll like dig into there or like if i'm on my side he'll dig into like my back yeah yeah i love it love it let's hear another one Hi, handsomes. This is Lori from New Jersey. I listen to you guys all the time. Love you. My question is about nature versus nurture. So I found out in my late 40s that I was conceived via sperm donor, big family secret, all sorts of messy as you can imagine.
And have since met and gotten quite close with some of my siblings or donor siblings, as we say. And it's been shocking to me with my sister in particular. how similar we are. I'm just curious if you have any thoughts about nature versus nurture and the importance of DNA. I think you and I can get to the bottom of this. All these pro scientists. We're gonna have all the answers. Yeah.
I mean, that's fascinating. I mean, that's an age old question, right? Yeah, that is super interesting. And you read about those twins separated at birth who have identical lives. I mean, I do think there are many... characteristics that you share because of dna but you you also hear of like uh The siblings, you know, separated and having wildly different lives based on economics.
if the parents were loving or together or there was an alcoholic in the family i mean that stuff definitely shapes you as well yeah to me it's like a combo i don't know that you can just be based off one thing a complex combo of the two and each and each quality is probably different like maybe there's like medical conditions that are largely nature but maybe there's
yeah, personality things that are purely nurture. I mean, I think about sexuality a lot, and I'm like, I tend to think that there's so much cultural stuff that, like, like they studied a thousand different animal species and they found bisexuality in all thousand species and like and i've met people who are
who say, yeah, if I was growing up now at 100%, I would have been bi growing up and explored that part of myself. But I just, you know what I mean? Right. Like what was acceptable in certain times is what sort of... uh was more prevalent yeah like that's why sometimes like born this way feels like kind of a a cop out some times because it's kind of being like please please let me live because I was just born this way and I can't help it. It's like, well, what if it is?
there's an element of it that is a choice as well. Yeah, but that's probably why there's a spectrum of it, right? Some people were just like, this is me, this is who I've been since day one, and other people are like... um i kind of as i've gotten older i'm curious about this thing yeah yeah there's yeah different versions of that but so we're saying nature i mean i just think there's no way to not have a combo of the two like I've also seen situations where people who've had to overcome a lot
uh have like perseverance or people that were given everything sometimes are like a little lazy again these are all like generalizations um that you know it it shapes these circumstances shape you and as far as how you approach the world yeah it seems like the the general answer is it's a complex combo of the two but i'm interested in laurie's
story and and meeting like biological part relatives and finding similarity that that's super interesting should we hear what what she has to say i would say for me what i've realized is that They both come into play. You cannot negate one or the other. And I guess... The importance of one or the other maybe depends on your family upbringing. I had a fantastic childhood with my...
And I think I very much benefited from the nurture of my environment. But I also really appreciate now that I have this amazing connection with my sister, with whom I share. half of the DNA from our sperm donor data. Thanks, you guys so much. Love you. Bye. Thanks, Lori. You ever seen those videos of twins in the womb and they're like playing hide and seek in the womb? No, I don't think I've seen that. One of them is like hiding behind.
some uterine lining it's insane and they're like playing games with each other and then when they're born they continue playing those same games and stuff oh wow is it prevalent um not that we're experts on twins but that one's kind of like
stronger than the stronger one i mean we'd have to ask more dominant one and then that kind of continues and that's what i've always thought but maybe that's like a 90s like a 90s belief i don't know there's like Sometimes you see these twins where there's like this like popular good-looking one and yeah quiet nerdy one yeah and i feel like the the one was like the boss in the womb yeah getting all the nutrients and stuff i mean i'd be kind of pissed if i was a baby and i was like
This is supposed to be my time to germinate, and then I'm going to share this little thing with someone else. Yeah, I don't know a lot of twins, I guess. in my own personal life to really ask these questions. Max and Finn. We're like, which one of you is... We could sit Max and Finn down and ask him some questions. We're like, and are you resentful that your womb time was shared? They're like, what? We just want to play baseball.
Well, this was an absolute blast. It sure was, Mae. I'm glad you started your morning off in such a pleasant way. Yeah, yeah. I have to do that. I have to say yes to when people invite me for a coffee and just get out of the house and do that. I think that's going to be my motto moving forward is being open and saying yes to fun. new opportunities, and just seeing what life has to offer. I'm going to hold you to that. I'm going to hit you up with some advice.
I'll keep firing them at you. Please do. We're going to hang soon. Do you play foosball? Um, I mean, I know how to play. I will get back into it for you. I got a table, so... You did get a table. Yeah, I did get a table, and I want to have a tournament.
I love you living your bachelor life. I really am trying my best. But then deep down, I just want to be a golden retriever waiting for someone to come home. Aw. Didn't you have people over for your... I was out of town, so I'm not offended for your birthday. i did i did indeed yeah that was that was that your first big Yeah, it was my first. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'll talk about it in the main podcast. It was a real blast. Thomas came. We played some fuzzball.
Yeah, it was fun. Well, we'll hear more about it when we're with our friend Tig. Yeah. I had a touch of the old birthday depression, but powered through with all the pals. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you were surrounded by your friends. A hundred percent. Even the skunks came to visit late at night. The big bulbous boy and the little baby one. That's because you guys had food around. Oh, you're right, actually. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
But then I kind of want to, I mean, this is a slippery slope, but I want to leave. I want to attract animals. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Garbage. No, Dr. Doolittle. We're not doing that. Not at your house. Because then we'll get out of control. Yeah, there'd be coyotes. Just enjoy the ones that are coming in naturally. Yeah, welcome them, but don't encourage them.
Well, please keep submitting your questions. We're loving this. Go to speakpipe.com slash handsomepod. Drop us a line. And keep telling your pals about the pod and let us know what you want to hear from us and how you envision the future of Handsome. That's right. And if you see us walking around the reservoir, please approach us. Please. I love being in the wild and someone telling me to keep it handsome. It's pretty fun. It's the best, yeah. Well, good to see you, pal.
Good to see you. I hope everybody has an awesome day. Yeah, me too. I hope that too. And I hope everybody remembers to keep it pretty handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Ouellette. Email us at handsomepod at gmail.com and follow us on social media at handsomepod. What a podcast! What a podcast! That was a HeadGum Podcast.
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