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Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. This is a HeadGum Podcast. Cheers. Welcome to the Handsome Pod. I'm Mae Martin, one of your handsome hosts. I'm joined, as always, by my handsome co-host. Tig Notaro. Oh, it finally happened. Take Nutaro. Fortune Feimster. We're together again, you guys. We sure are, you guys.
You're hard to read at the best of times. And this, if you go to YouTube, this addition to your appearance today just adds to the mystique and the intrigue because you really can't tell what you're feeling. You can't tell what I'm feeling in general. Are you saying? Well, it looks like you're solving crimes. I know, but I'm talking about in a general sense, not today on the podcast, but in a general sense, you can't tell what I'm feeling ever.
No, I can tell what you're feeling, but you have occasionally a deadpan kind of, I don't know, something about the mustache just takes it to another level. Yeah. You just blew it for everybody. Everybody now knows I have a mustache. I have to say I had a different mustache on earlier. And then when I ripped that off, I ripped my actual TIG mustache off of my upper lip.
that could be a good business like wax your mustache with another mustache with a mustache yeah mustache on my hair here but it's blonde so you can't see it Somebody's bragging. I really thought I would start because I'm on testosterone. I thought I would start growing something, but I haven't. Do you want to? You know what's weird? No, I don't want to have facial hair, but I want to shave. I want it to grow so I can shave it because I want the experience of looking in the mirror and shaving.
You know what I mean? Like Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone. You could do that, though. You don't have to wait for hair to show up. You can just shave your face. Yeah, but I'll know that it's a charade. Charade? Charade. My apartment here in Toronto faces windows in another building, and it's really not far at all, if you want to see. Yeah, we'd love to.
Oh, yeah. Right in there. Yeah. So people are just coming and going and I have different mustaches on. And y'all are looking at each other. Yeah. When I was in New York, I was on a very tall floor. And I looked out to see the beautiful water that was in front of me. And to the left was another tall building. And a guy got out of his, and this had happened to.
When Jack and I were together before and it happened again, a guy got out of his bathtub all full wiener. Really? Wait, what? Full wiener. Okay, and what did he look like? What do you mean? Like he, you know, you can see in other people's apartments in New York. Yeah. And this guy had just his. For you? No, not for me. No. Okay.
And I don't know why I said bathtub. It was a shower. He got out of the shower and he didn't have any curtains or they weren't closed. I think he wanted to be seen. And he just was and he went up to the window. Yeah, that checks out. Full wiener. Yeah, it was for you. It was for you. No, he didn't know I was on the...
14th floor. He knew it. He could feel it. And is that the only time you've seen one aside from the hot flute? Well, ironically enough, when I was in New York, another time that happened. a guy i'm staying i'm staying at the wrong hotels you would enjoy seeing that of course what are you talking about just a wiener in the wild well
Yeah. Through the safety of a window across the street. Yeah. I like, I like the idea of kind of seeing what people are all floppy and that's what they are. Weird. I mean, I've heard. Guys, I have a bit of a mystery going on and I kind of think we'll solve it. I don't know if this company is over there. I don't know if this is a company that sponsors our podcast. And if it is, I kind of don't want to know because then it's not a mystery at all. But I've received a box to my.
Airbnb. And it's a box of baked goods, I want to say. And they're like, some of them are raw, they need to be baked. I'll show you some of what we're talking about. So we got croissants that need to go in the oven. Wait, is this wild grain? Because they truly are amazing. Yes, this is Wild Grain. Wait, but are they sponsors? They are sponsors. Oh, no. I thought I had a secret admirer. No, they're sponsors. Oh, my God. And they have some of the best chocolate chip cookies.
Telling you you'll ever have Jax. Jax orders, she'll order a thing of stuff just to get the cookies. Yeah. Wow. Well, I truly was like, maybe it's my ex. It's great. You freeze the... Sending you raw croissants. You got to put the bread in the freezer. But then when you want bread, it's there and it's really good. I'm not just saying this because they're our sponsors.
I mean, this would be like a really wait for the commercials. This would be such an elaborate ad for them. I just love that you thought someone's like sending you a bunch of bread and croissants. It was like the beginning of some, yeah, rom-com, some mystery. Do you guys want to go into how much you love Allstate Insurance? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys. I love Allstate. They're good. They're good. Would that have made a difference if someone had?
sent you those as a gift frozen dough i'd love to be sent any gift i feel like i send a lot of gifts that's like my love language yeah like i like to send a gift and and i don't The only thing that shows up at my door is like weird stuff I ordered on Amazon overnight. Frozen dough. And then our sponsors, it turns out. Yeah, yeah. Did you say a vibrator fortune, Marie? What? Who said that?
fortune marie do not talk about anything vibrating okay except the friendship between the three of us yeah which is vibrating on a high level a high frequency Thanks to Tig, I treaded water again this morning. You did? Two days in a row now. Nice. My goodness, kid. How was it? I was out of town for like three weeks, so it's not like I...
I purposely wasn't doing it. I just was out of town. And now I'm back. And the first day I was back, I didn't. But the next two days, I have. That's amazing. Love it. And you know what? I think I told you this, Mae. I was at the Rufus Wainwright. concert and met the people that ran the theater and they said they were friends with your parents. And the woman said she now treads water.
Really? Look at you, Tig, and everybody turn water. She said, I'm in with the big Hollywood fad. I was like, this is not a Hollywood fad. This is a Tig activity that we've caught on to. A lesbian or LGBTQ. I don't know what's going on. It's a handsome fad, but I don't think it's taken over Hollywood. It should because it's.
it's you know i know you listen to podcasts when you do it but it's meditative still it's like it's very meditative yeah and it moves your whole body you're working all your muscles and I do it silently and, you know, think myself into corners. I do need it for the meta because I don't think I have the patience to like.
just sit and meditate like in silence for some reason i do need to be doing something but i have a very like active brain in that it gets a little um ocd sometimes like um where i take some And it runs in my head and I can't get it to stop. Yeah. And I like fixate on things. And especially when my special came out. I start fixating on things like, what did I do this right? What was, does the color right? Does this, and I would have to make myself get into the pool.
And like, as I'm treading water, it'd be like, let go, let go, just like be present. Everything's good. And it really does help with my, my brain too. Yeah. I 1 million percent. man, my brain feels so good. My whole body feels so loose. Do you get that feeling of like, you're just, I don't know. I feel so good. Anyway, it was just so fun that she said that she's treading water now.
That's cool. Yeah. Do you guys have an active, like a brain that fixates or, I don't know if that was a comic thing or. Yes. I got a brain that fixates. Of course. Yeah. Are you really asking me this? i do and and then i find like um i do too yeah certain things i mean we've talked before about like i'm not sure about about
if meditation works for me, but doing an activity while like, like walking meditation, maybe, but there are things that I do that calm me down, like naming all the countries of the world. I like to do that. You're like Finn. Does he name the countries? Yeah, he knows the countries. He knows the U.S. capitals. Yeah. I should send you a video of him. He loves like...
Max and Finn watch Jeopardy and those kind of games. Okay. We need to hang out with, I think we'd really get along because we could just name the countries. He knows all of the flags of the world. Yeah. That's all of the flags. So that's not easy. I think that's my next challenge. I will send you that video. I'm getting competitive with an eight year old now. Well, I guess. But that soothes you is naming all of the countries of the world. Yeah.
Yeah. Journaling as well. Like if I force myself before bed to write just stream of conscious a couple of pages and in the morning about what I'm stressed about instead of just going on my phone. Yeah, that's helpful. Sometimes for me, it's just music. It's just like at our office, we have a record player. And there have been times when I've gone over there and it's like.
not just plug in your headphones, listen to music. There's something so relaxing and in the moment for me to put on a record and listen to a record. Yeah. And then it. ends, you get up and, and I don't know, it's a heightened level of appreciation, I think for it and flipping the record and then lying on the couch and listening to it and not looking at anything, just staring out the window or the ceiling. Oh man.
Yeah, that that I think puts me in a in a good place. But I mean, I don't have that kind of time to always be. lying on a couch in my office flipping records but i just got the test press i got like the test press of my vinyl record for my album and it it feels crazy i like i still don't
understand how you can take a sound from the air and put it onto plastic. I think about that all the time and I can't stand it. How does it happen? I think like, oh, I'm hearing the atmosphere of Abbey Road and all that. How? It doesn't make any sense. And then they transfer to another one. Yeah. And then everyone's got them. And then they press play on a radio station. Yeah.
Or even photographs. Oh, don't get me started. Don't get me started. I can't stand it. Me neither. I can't stand it. How did that happen? But there's something particularly weird about a vinyl because it feels so like... rudimentary almost like like that we're just taking a very sharp little point and then we're spinning it on the thing and then all of a sudden i'm in abbey road and i'm hearing something from the 70s like
It's so insane. But I don't have a vinyl player, so I can't listen to my own album. Well, you gotta get one. It would have been from the 60s. Yes, true. Yeah. They're not expensive. Yeah, I know. They've got them at like... Urban Outfitters. Urban Outfitters, yeah. You know what is so funny? Like in the 80s and 70s when you got a record player. It was so cool to have one that stacked up high and the speakers were huge. Yeah. And like took up so much space. Huge speakers.
Yeah. And now it's like the size of your phone. I mean, it's your phone. Yeah. When you do the Kelly Clarkson show, they always give you a record and it's a different one every time. And I've done her show 10 times now. So I've gotten 10 different records. Really? And what are the records? Dolly Parton was one. And this latest one was Chapel Rhone. And I was traveling for like.
two and a half weeks and i got the record at the beginning of those travels so for two and a half weeks i'm like i really want this this vinyl i want to listen to chapel's record on on the vinyl and So I was like having to maneuver this record for almost three weeks to not break it. Even though I could buy another one, I'm just like, don't break this record.
Well, and yet there are times in life where it's like you want to break the record. You know what I'm saying? You know? You know what I mean? You're a record breaker. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate first. Like, you know, to check and make sure you got your popcorn exactly how you like it before you hit play on a new movie you've been wanting to watch.
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And you're meant to get your rage out. I think I would benefit. And you have not gone. I've never gone. They're in LA. They're in, yeah, it's a big thing. And they blast music. You get to pick your music. And then you wear goggles. And you just. Can you guys tell by looking at me that I have pent up rage or no? I would not know that. No. Pent up rage. Let me see. I definitely think you're going through a thing of like.
Just, you know, coming out on the other end of some life things, but I would not, rage would not be the thing I would think. Well, this is the thing. I can't even access it. It's so deep, but I know it's there. Just about the world. I would say if I really went in on your, you know, psychology. Well, yeah, I mean, you're there's some nerves and anxiety maybe around things in life and and maybe that could be tied to not.
sharing how you really feel about things or being direct about something. And then if you're not, then you're probably holding. some rage. So that kind of tracks and makes sense. Two episodes in a row. You have so apt because. It's like my throat chakra is blocked. Like I do, I don't say what I feel a lot and I have, cause I want everyone to like me. So, but I'm pissed. But I think, but I think some of it is that you.
you want to tell people what they want to hear knowing that you're not going to be able to follow up on that yeah and then it creates drama for you that's unnecessary you know what i mean but if you just said from the get-go i don't think i can do that or i i don't i can't you know what i mean like you're telling people what they want to hear because you want them to
that people pleaser in you. Maybe you end up letting, letting that person down. Cause they, because you're like, Oh, they wanted that for me, but I can't give it to them. And now they're upset with me. And then it leads to like, uh, like fresh, like. Yeah, that's definitely frustration. And then how do you respond if somebody, you know, says yes, then lets you down? Like, do you handle that okay? Yeah, yeah. Like in a reverse? Yeah.
I'm all right with that. I think it's a, I think there's a big, like part of it's like an ADHD thing. I think like of just time management and like, uh, overwhelm and like freeze, but I don't know. I don't know. It's really, it's really interesting to, um, and I know we've talked about this before, but like conversations. that are so hard and i just always think like i'm going to be alive after this conversation i'm going to be alive after this email
You know, and it really does. Like as hard as that moment is, it's like it's usually a short hard. yeah you know it's not like like with everyone in my life i'm avoiding saying like what i really feel but there's probably like some foundational things on like the foundations a little rocky where like because there's stuff that I should I want to yell in the desert at the moon and the stars and the rocks yeah and and then if I got that out maybe yeah I actually did I went to the Joshua Tree
like a year ago with some friends and i was like i want to do a primal scream and i was with my friend charlotte who's british and she was really worried that like it was nighttime there was no one around and we were in the middle of the national park and she
was like um before we do the scream i just have to do something and then she goes um hello if anyone can hear us we're not in any danger we're just doing a primal scream and it like really it took the fun out of it a little bit that's hilarious From feel good. Yeah. It was very adorable. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I find really interesting that I'm really in tune with, and I don't even know if I'm right or wrong, but I am fascinated.
by people that have nervous laughs. Not that I'm solving a big mystery here, but... I feel like that's a lot of rage or, Oh, Oh really? Yeah. Yeah. Like when people are like, like that kind of thing, like it feels like if it keeps going. Um, it'll become, yeah, it's like, I'm, I'm always interested when people laugh at moments really hard. There's nothing funny happening or.
you know, barge in with that kind of energy. And I'm always like, you know, just kind of quietly examining that thinking what what is that really uncomfortable, nervous laughter that is barging into this conversation out of their mouth? They're clearly uncomfortable. Yeah. And and it's just it's it's really fascinating. And if our listeners relate to that, please.
Write in and let us know because I'm because people might be like, oh, my gosh, I do that. And I don't know why I do it or I do it. And the reason I do it is because this or that. I just find it so fascinating. yeah i think we could all benefit from opening our mouths a bit more and saying letting things out right i mean all that a lot of this stems from just pent up stuff
Yeah. Stephanie emailed me this morning about something. She was not happy with me. Really? Yeah. And were you receptive? I was, I was like, you know, I didn't do it intentionally, but I totally. saw what she was saying and apologized. It was really interesting to wake up in a different city from her and have a very big email. Yeah. Very big, but it was like an email. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that you hadn't been aware that she was stewing on something. I don't know that she was stewing on. It wasn't that she was stewing on something. It was just that she came across something I had said. And there was some misrepresentation and whatever. But when I opened the email, I thought, oh, what is, I was, it was, I was so. Like, what is this? That would be jarring for sure. It was jarring, but it was also more fascinating because I don't feel like I'm hiding anything from her.
You know, like I don't have massive droves of secrets. Yeah. And so and I'm I was more of like, oh, this is oh, no. And also, oh, my gosh, this is so. interesting what is what did i do like i yeah i was so interested and then um and then when i read it i was like oh yeah i did say that and it wasn't you know, totally, totally true. Right, right, right. Without getting into details. But, you know, I did it for...
A lot comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It basically was her story. Right. Yeah. You know, and I kind of blurred it in a way. Right. And I was like, oh, yeah, I see that. And I'm sorry. And I won't do that again. Yeah. Or or if I. think that story is great i'll run it by you you know but i was just like oh it's our world and our right here's this story and i bet all three of us have gotten to trouble for that before i feel like that's such a So part of...
what we do which doesn't excuse it but it's like sometimes jack's like what are you talking about yeah or sometimes i think something's my like yeah yeah yeah well yeah and reading that email i was like she's totally right and she is right to feel that way and i i and it did cross my mind where i was like oh should i and i was like yeah it's not it's fine yeah and then it wasn't and she's right
In ancient Rome, didn't they used to do a thing that was like once a month or something? They would have a night that was like Bacchic chaos of just orgiastic crazy, but not sex. It was just like... Like you could get all your primal drives out and people would just get drunk and they'd be screaming. They'd all wear masks and run around and you'd just get it out of your system. And I think maybe we need that. Like Freud said, society's.
coercion and suppression of drives and i really i feel like we all are living in this sort of claustrophobia and if we just had not not like the purge like we need to have one night where we go out and you know hurt people, but just like at one night a month where we just go to the red tent. What's the red tent? Get our feelings out. I talked about it. A long time ago. Isn't that like period stuff? Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it would be an excuse to just.
Hang out and not do anything and just chat about your feelings. Girl, meet me in the red tent. I feel like people in the red tent are not chill chatting, though. Really? In my fantasy, we are. eating grapes i'm picturing everyone's you know Emotional. Emotional and cramping. Or a sauna. Let's modernize it. Let's all go to a sauna.
Yes, girl, me and you in the sauna. Let's chat. Come on. Have a handsome sauna. Just let it sweat it all out. We can talk. We have some time where it's silent and then we can talk about things. My worst thing in a sauna, if you ever, when you're in a sauna and then someone comes in and without even being in the sauna for more than a second, they pour a bunch of water on it and makes it.
three times hotter and it's like just wait a second let your body adjust because we've all been doing the water it's hot in here yeah just had to get that off my chest See, I'm saying how I feel. I'm being honest. Yeah, get it out, Mae. I fucking hate that when people in the sauna make it hot without checking with you, bro. Mae, you know what would be really fun for you to do? Tell me.
hour where you rage yeah you just let loose and you pace back and forth and it can be it's authentic and it's real but it's also like experimental art You know, see, this is the thing because people often like in stuff that's like written about me. It's like people commend the fact that I'm so. I'm like a palatable queer person that's not like a not actually aggressive or challenging that you know what I mean like it's accessible like fortune yeah like well maybe we maybe we both have that like
Power palatable. Yeah. Maybe I should do an hour where I'm just like, fuck it. I'm so boxing. I'm pissed. And that's the title. Fuck it. I'm so boxing. I'm pissed. Yeah, yeah, on Netflix. Well, this all goes back to the bear. Let's not pretend it doesn't. It's the kept bear. And the aliens. It's the wrestling bear that doesn't know its own strength.
needs to crush the mulleted goons that are tormenting it yeah it's good to get stuff out i'll like think i'm fine and handling everything else and i'll just like start crying in an elevator Yeah. Well, except that you are scared of heights, right? I just saw Wiener. I got to leave my hotel room and just now I'm crying. I have just randomly started crying in elevators. Can you imagine someone like getting on and being like, oh.
Okay. I guess she's not crushing it today. That's right. Or on an airplane. Sometimes I just start bawling on an airplane. Oh, that's, yeah. I did that recently. I thought about an old, painful situation in my life, and I had a boohoo on a flight. Just like something I hadn't thought about in so long. And I connected with it again. And I was like, God, that was hard on me. That was really heavy load.
Yeah. Please do bring out that emotion. You get that perspective looking at things from a distance. Yeah. From a distance. Don't get me started.
Oh, I love Bette Midler. Yeah. The Divine Miss M. Come on. Don't you think there was a period in movies in the 90s where there were like tons of scenes that took place in elevators with about... five people all facing forward strangers and then something awkward would happen i feel like that used to happen in movies in every comedy okay are you guys familiar with my dear old pal henry phillips
The comedian? No, I don't think I am actually. I probably, let me Google. Do yourselves a favor. This is a silly, silly man. Okay. He made two movies. One is called Punching the Clown and one is called Punching Henry. I've seen Henry. You have? uh-huh oh my gosh i haven't seen these movies though i can't remember i think it's the one i'm in stephanie and i are in one i think it's punching henry we're in that movie and he has
He stumbles through the most awkward things in life all the time in punching Henry. He's he's doing a show. This has happened in real life. And then it's also. In the movie, a guy shows up to a show. It's like, man, I am your biggest fan. I can't believe. And he like slams his head down and.
hits a parking meter and the guy had traveled so far to see henry and then he was off to the emergency room oh my gosh yeah and then uh but anyway back to elevators henry got out of an elevator once and he turned left, but left was just a wall. But he was too embarrassed because the doors were still open. He was too embarrassed to turn back and turn right and go down the hall. So he just went.
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He's just a silly, dry guy. I love him so much. That's fun. Anyway. Well, we should get to our question, right? Yes. Yes, absolutely. Today's questioner is a magician, actor, musician, TV host, and writer best known as the, well, pretty much the vocal half of the iconic magic duo. Penn and Teller. Penn Jillette is asking today's question.
Hello, my handsome friends. This is Penn, Penn Gillette. I work with the Comedy Magic team in Las Vegas, Penn & Teller, at the conveniently named Penn & Teller Theater. I got a question for you. Scientists have shown that placebos work even when the subject knows it's a placebo, which...
Blows my mind completely. I used to think the whole idea behind placebos was you didn't know they were nothing and that's why they worked. But you can tell people, apparently, I don't know how they did these tests, I don't know what the control group would be, but... You can tell people,
This is a pill that will do nothing. This is a placebo. Give them a sugar pill and say, I'm giving it to you for your arthritis or whatever the problem is. And they actually see an improvement, even though they've been told it's a placebo. And this, of course. works in a lighter way, in a silly way in magic.
You know the magic wand is just a stick. You know it does nothing. And yet you feel that there's a magical cause to the trickery you're seeing. You always have to have a magical cause for the trickery, no matter how silly. It seems similar to me, although on a lighter level. And I just wondered what you have in your life that you know is bullshit, that you know is not true.
And yet you believe in it and it helps you. So what's your placebo that you know is a placebo? Interesting. I just saw them perform. We did a show together. Oh, cool. And that is really cool. I don't think about magic tricks very often. And then when I see them, I'm like, dang, that was cool. I mean, magic is magic. yeah it's wild i remember going to some show at the mat what is the magic castle magic castle yeah and
how do they do it? Thank you for saying that in Italian accent. How do they do it? Meatball. But I don't, some magician. was saying what was in this woman's purse yeah that's wild yeah i was like it was just like it was some of it unexpected stuff it wasn't just like your wallet your yes it was i was like i don't I don't get it. I'm angry at everybody now. I don't know what's happening. Yeah, it's fascinating.
Yeah. And like Penn's very cerebral, as you can see. So a lot of his stuff is like talking out these big things. And you're like, how does he keep up with all that? Yeah. Well, any of the things that I'm thinking of and answer this question, I'm like. I don't really 100% know that they don't work. Or if there are placebos, they're working anyway. So like crystals or like, well, spells. I do quite a few spells.
Now you yourself do the spells or someone does them for you? Well, things like on a full moon or whatever, I'll write down stuff and bury it. You know, weird shit that I read about just for fun. Like a little squirrel in the yard. Yeah. Like a little squirrel. They're burying dirt under my nails. Yeah. Oh my God. If someone dug up my yard and found all my secrets.
All your secrets are just out of your yard. Yeah, I don't know, because that's the thing about a placebo effect. It's that it's mentally making you feel better. Yeah. And if you mentally feel better, then it can have effects on you physically. Yeah. So it does in turn work. Yeah. Do you have any superstitions that you kind of know it's bogus, but just in case you're doing it? I'm not very superstitious. Would you walk under a ladder? Easily. I didn't even know that was a thing.
What is that? What do you mean? You're not supposed to walk under a ladder. Two against one. So you know. I know. You do know this or you don't know this? I do. I do, my friend. Okay, what is it? If you walk under a ladder, it's bad luck. I don't know why. Like on the inner part of it, you mean? Yeah. Oh, interesting. Like between it and the wall, you know? We're all just coming across ladders, left and right. No, well, that's why it's kind of a...
It's stressful when you do because you're like, oh, better not walk underneath. Better not do that. I have no idea if I've ever even done that. Like, I'm sure it's bullshit, but I still wouldn't do it. Because you didn't know it was. Bad news. So you're like all Mr. Magoo right underneath the ladder. Isn't it bad luck to like throw away a penny or something? I didn't know about that. No, it's good luck to throw a penny in a fountain. But I thought if you threw it away, it's bad luck.
Oh, really? Well, you're just throwing money away. That can't be great luck. Yeah. Like you got that kind of cash fortune that you can just throw a penny in the trash? Do you put it in the trash or in recycling? I don't think I'm throwing away. I think I'm...
Knew that it was bad luck, so I didn't. Do you have a piggy bank? No. Jax puts coins in a thing, I think, or she used to. Coins in a thing. Coins in a thing. That would be a piggy bank. Everybody used to keep their change and then you could get. Your parents would get from the bank the rolls, right? And you'd put all the pennies in the roll or all your nickels in the rolls and count it up, exchange it for bills. Do you believe black cats are bad luck? No.
No, I don't actually. Like I went to see my house that I bought and a gray cat showed up. And then so I Googled the significance of gray cats and it was like independence. Oh, yeah. Are you feeling independent? Yeah. Yeah. No, I guess I am on track with that. Yeah, man. Yeah, I got it. You got it. It's done. It's yeah. I've got repairs to do like foundational repairs and things like that. But yeah.
We didn't follow up to find out if you got the structural information and everything was like, that's good? Other than a few repairs? Well, here's the thing. good like it's stable and secure but they are next year going to be repairing the cliff edge that the house is perched on and it's going to be unbelievably loud for one year but um
It's worth it. So you're in. I'm in. I'm in. Nice. And I'm scared. Yeah. Why? Of sliding down the hill. I guess I'm just. I would be scared of that too. Yeah, I'm scared of sliding down the hill. Scared of, you know, robbers and spiders and yeah. Robbers and spiders. Yeah. Well, you know what I can do for you that I did to Max and Finn, because they were really scared for a while about bad guys. Yeah. So I took them into our neighborhood and showed them the.
Crime stopper sign, whatever that is. And I was like, you see this sign? We don't allow bad guys in our neighborhood. So there is nothing to be afraid of. And they... Were they into it? Yes, they believe. In fact, in the backseat, I heard Finn telling Max when he was scared about something. He was like, it's fine, Max. He was like, bad guys aren't allowed in our neighborhood. Oh. Yeah. There are no bad guys in our neighborhood. Cute. I can't believe that worked. Nice. Oh, my gosh. It worked.
Our alarm went off in the middle of the night when Stephanie was by herself. Oh, that's scary. Yeah. And she thought they slept through it. And in the morning, she was like. You guys, the alarm went off on the house and they're like, oh, we know we heard it. And when she told me that, I was like, that's how safe they feel. Wow. They just thought it was like, and it was like, you know, a mistake. Yeah. But the alarm got tripped, but they didn't have a care in the world.
They weren't even slightly scared because they know there's no bad guys in their neighborhood. That's great. Yeah. We had our alarm go off one morning. It was like crazy windy and I didn't realize I hadn't like latched the back door properly. and it the wind was so hard that it blew it open oh scary alarm went off so we like jolted out of bed and and
Jax just starts charging down. I'm like, no, of course. You gotta look at the camera. Oh my God. Classic. You gotta look at the camera. If someone's downstairs, she's just. bolting down there. I'm just like, oh my God, no. I'm like, hide in the room, lock the door. Grab Biggie. Start crying. Biggie and I are in the bedroom with the door locked. She's just...
Taking care of business. She has no fear. I swear to God, it's crazy. That is amazing. Of course. Of course. So she's my protector. I love her. Yeah, that's great. Jax is my placebo. If you heard a scary sound in the night, Tig, would you or Stephanie go check it out? well digs in her nightgown oh yeah i'm in my nightgown flowing in the wind but um
No, it's so funny when we have visitors staying with us and we don't even have our alarm set. It's just the ding of the door opening and closing. Stephanie will jump out of bed like, oh, oh God. And she'll like kind of make a look. loop around the room and then get back in bed. And then Stephanie always imitates me. This is a cartoon version of me. Yeah. Of like just in my underwear going downstairs going, I love my family.
that's hilarious um yeah i think i i think we both would hesitantly go down but also holding hands but I asked her I was like did you call the police or 911 she was like well no that's what the alarm does and I was like I know but it wouldn't be bad to like give a little extra follow up ring a ding and be on the phone with somebody when an emergency is happening. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know how we got onto this placebos. I don't know either. Yeah.
Some people think that cold plunging is a placebo. No, that's all proven. Really? Because every time I hear things, so many people have different things about like, no, it has tons of health benefits and other people are like, it does nothing. It wakes you up. Yeah, but you know what? The level that it wakes you up is so stimulating in your brain. It's crazy. Yeah. It is so crazy. And your dopamine climbs. Yeah.
Yeah. For like two and a half hours, your dopamine keeps climbing. It doesn't crash or bottom out. I think it's good. Then who are these people saying it has no benefits? People that are wrong. Sauna salesman? Yes. Thank you, Mae. I don't feel like I have a placebo thing in my life. I mean, and this is like, like a stretch to try and connect it, but you know.
When I was sick in 2012, I was praying and I had never done that before. And I felt like I felt like it was going to help me. Yeah. And it did. I'm here. I live through it. But, um, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I've done some praying. Yeah. I do that. Yeah, man. I don't ever pray. But I prayed then and then I never returned to it again. Once God was like, all right, I'll let you live. I don't like get on my knees like you do, like you see, you know, in a cartoon.
Yeah. If there's like some, I'm going through some hard times. I just like in my car. I'm just like, yeah, I'll talk out loud. Let's hear a little. I kind of pray to like the. god or the or a power power kind of a mix of things sometimes my grandmother sometimes I'll talk to my grandma and be like Nana help me out yeah yeah look after me and she does yeah
And who knows, like, if that's a placebo, if there's something to it, I don't know, but it makes me feel better. Yeah. That's all you need. Totally. Who cares where it comes from? Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's anything. Yeah, I don't have like any ritual that I can think of. Like, you know, they're like vitamins. You just pee them out.
You know, I take a bunch of vitamins. Yeah, that I'm sure do nothing. Except make you go to the bathroom. That's true. I eat pad thai. That makes me feel better. That's not a placebo. That's truly comforting. That's truly my comfort food. Yeah, let's see what Penn has to say. I am being strict. unpleasantly strict, self-righteous vegan. And I know that...
big parts of my health improving from veganism are not from veganism. They're from being conscious of my diet or they are completely mental. But when I eat nothing but vegetables, which has been the past... nine years, I feel better. And I know that about 25% of that is... 100% bullshit. But that placebo helps me get through. Being a strict vegan helps me do all the things in my life that make me a little healthier than I used to be. So that's my answer.
It's not as satisfying as yours, I'm sure, even though I haven't heard them yet. Okay. Thank you, handsome people. Love you. Peace. Did you know that Penn was a vegan? I had no idea. I had no idea, but now I cannot wait to talk to him about it. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's saying that it's not proven that that is a fully health beneficial thing.
What do you mean? I think he's saying that not all of the health benefits can be ascribed to the veganism. Such as eating vegetables. Yeah, like that part of it must be that he's... thinking now of himself as a healthy person so it's like yeah yeah that's cool i will say when i drink my green juice that i'm like No one can touch you. I'm so healthy right now. I have green liquid in my body. I'm the healthiest I've ever been from this one morning I drank green juice.
Well, for you, Tig, it did help you a lot because you were going through all that. And I mean, you've said that you attribute that to helping save your life, right? I do. And I'm sure that, well, not just saved my life, but also helped me deal with pain. And I'm sure it's a mix of all of those things of eating.
nutrient-dense vegetables and fruit, nuts, seeds, all of that kind of stuff, grains. And then having... Before, I just didn't really think about my health. I was just... a person floating through the world and just eating whatever i want doing whatever i want and now i'm so like i do not want to be back in that place again. And so whatever it is, it's happening. And look, obviously, I could keel over and die tomorrow. But right now, my the pain management is just superb.
I feel so much better and I can't say enough about it, you know, but I also people get very weird around me where they're like, oh, I can't eat this in front of you or I can't do this. And it's like. This is me. Yeah. I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about what you're eating, wearing, doing. Yeah. I'm good. You're on your journey. Yeah. Yeah.
I feel like I know it's in my future, vegetarianism and veganism, but I'm just sort of waiting to get there. I'm hoping I'll just arrive there unconnected to anything. of my behavior. I'll just suddenly be like, Oh, I'm here now. I'm a vegan. Well, and as I tell everyone that you, you have to have something that is your North star that gets you there, whether it's. animal cruelty or health or environmental issues. You have to be really, really sold on what your North star is. Otherwise.
Nothing will work. And there's no way I would have maintained any sort of healthy lifestyle if I hadn't fallen so far off of that ledge. And now it's the easiest thing for me to, not the easiest, but I mean, it's just, it's what I do, you know? Yeah. And, but it doesn't mean that I have judgment about. how anybody else is doing anything. Yeah. Thank goodness. There's some real doozies happening over here with me. Orange chicken.
Oh, I do love it, though. I love it. My baby bear, Biggie Boy, he's my placebo. If I'm sad or I pick him up on my arms, then I feel so much better. Biggie is scientific. He's the best. I just stare at him. Yeah. And all that stress goes away. Yeah. And he just stares at you. It is dead ice. He's not in here. He was in here, but he was like, get me out of here. I'm tired of all this talking. Yeah. I gotta go play. Well, that was a fun episode. I really enjoyed that. You guys, me too.
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