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Esther Perel asks about younger selves

Jul 30, 202459 min
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Renowned psychotherapist Esther Perel, author of "Mating In Captivity," asks Handsome a provocative question about younger selves on this week's episode! Plus Mae unveils a new roleplay, Handsome on Oprah, and a classic installment of "brown or blonde"!

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get in on that. I was so excited to get in on that handsome pod. Really looking forward to chatting with my friends. On the hands of them. I've missed you. And I you. And I you. And I also you as well. And us, we. And us, we. Yes, we've been doing so much. Everyone's been all over the place. I know. We sure have been. Oh my gosh, it's crazy. And then may showed up with a completely different look, which I can't even decide if we talk about or lure people to YouTube about.

I know. A darker do. A darker do if you don't mind if you please. This to me. And us, we. And us, we. And I think this is vastly different to my usual look. This was like multiple conversations with production about dye my hair brown. I went nuts. I logged on today thinking gasps. I thought you guys would be like not recognizing me. And then it's crazy. They're. May. May. I would never have noticed. Truly. We'd never have noticed. But this is also

coming from the person that used to have an office space. Maybe I've talked about this on the show. I had an office space underneath a coffee shop. And I'd go in and get my my coffee from the barista. And one morning after I was walking away to go down to my office, she said, aren't you going to mention? Don't I look different? And I was like, I don't know. She said, my hair is green. Green didn't even notice. Don't even notice. I'll be honest, I'm looking now at myself. And I am

realizing my hair is still blonde. And I open. This is after numerous like, you know, tense conversations where I'm like, guys, this is dark hair for me. And now I'm looking at it. I'm like, no, they're right. Well, this part of you is, it's like a still blonde, the sides are darker. Sides are darker. You mean the front part, the front part, the Justin Bieber part. I beg your pardon. Even the May Martin part. I'm kidding. Yeah. This like the the flip. I don't know

what to call it. That is still lighter. You take still blonde. Yes. But the sides are definitely darker. Yeah. I guess. I think it's like I'm not green. I think I'm it's almost like I don't it's like a I don't want it to resolve. Like I want this drama to continue because once it resolves, I had to focus on actually acting and preparing and and how are you feeling? I'm nervous, man. I'm really nervous. I I I just the whole thing so embarrassing that the fact that you're

paying people to pretend that they love you and things like that is very crazy. Are you you're paying people to pretend they love you? Well, it's what this job is. I get I get a check from May every month. Wait, I'm doing it for free. I think I phrased that wrong. Just like the fact that I wrote it is embarrassing. So when you're running a scene with another actor and you're like, yeah, I guess I did write this show. Someone has to love you. Yeah. What a tall order.

You're so levelable. Thanks for watching. That's right. I agree. Actually, I that pause. You know, no, you know what that pause was is I I do love you. May. Thank you. I love you too. I just I have a different delivery and I was really reflecting on that when fortune said what she said, which I can't even remember what she said, but I was thinking like, well, it's interesting because I love May too, but I just probably would deliver it differently. Yeah.

Right. Right. And so that's what that was about. I would deliver it like I would throw mine away a little bit like, I love you guys. I don't think I don't know. Yeah, you guys are great. I find, you know, eye contact hard, which is hard for acting as well. Well, I remember I was in a scene with Reese Witherspoon once and I was supposed to be like her old kind of friend, I guess. And I was supposed to link arms with her and just basically be like, hey girl, it's

and I was struggling so hard in that scene. And I just I kept saying, I'm sorry, this just does not come. Yeah, I was like, I'm uncomfortable touching you. I'm uncomfortable saying, hey girl. And they were like, well, we could redo it in a different way. And I was like, no, I'm going to challenge myself as an actor and try and link arms with Reese and say, hey girl. Hey girl. And if you want to see that scene, watch your place or mine and just know it took us

a long time to get there. I thought you were joking about the hey girl thing, but you literally had to say, hey girl, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think I say, hey girl, hey girl. Oh, yeah. For sure you do. I think mine stems from my love of Chennai Twain song, man, I feel like a woman. Just like that. Let's go girls. And I wanted to say, let's go girls to her so many times. I think you ran away. Thomas put it on the list. We got to say you've seen Chennai Twain

randomly out in the wild a bunch. Well, twice. And that weird when there are people that you always cross paths with. Yeah. I saw her and I wanted to say, let's go girls. I'm sure she gets a lot. I don't think she's ever heard that. But I put up my eye contact with her. And I was like, I need to make eye contact with her to be able to say this. You can't just say, let's go girls to the back of Chennai Twain's head.

Okay. Here's what I use. Say, let's go girls to her. And then if I ever see her out in the wild, you know what I'm going to do. I don't care what angle I've got on her. I'm just going to go. Yeah. Do you think it's like Pavanovian? Let's go girls. I bet she can't help herself if someone does that. She has to go. She has to say, let's go girl. Oh my god. I want to know bad. And I I saw her on two. Yeah. Where are you saying her? I had a meeting down in century city. And she was,

I saw her going into the elevator. And I almost ran and stood in the elevator. And I was like, well, that's creepy. So I, I contain myself. But then I saw her again after my meeting. She was leaving. And I was like, this is my chance. And she walked by me and didn't make eye contact. And I was like, and then someone from a group was like, said hi to me. And I was like, I wanted to say, let's go girls. What if Chenaya was like, hey, fortune, keep it handsome. Oh my god. I just got

goose on her. Well, one time Thomas and I were in Vegas together. And there were posters of her all over the place. And we were just having a joyful time just doing, let's go girls. And I mean, the idea of you and Thomas and Vegas. I didn't even know why we were there, honestly. Thomas, why were we in Vegas? Star Trek Convention. Star Trek. Star Trek Convention, right? I wish it was Thomas' bachelor party. And it was just you two in Vegas.

You're like, so what do you want to do now? I'm trying to get everyone to take me seriously as an actor. And then I'm realizing as I'm talking to you guys, like, yeah, and I had to, I met the, the, the woman. Well, first of all, I was, did I tell you this? I was hosting these awards. I never hosted awards. Oh, yeah. And I Canada. Yeah. And I came up here. You crushed. Who from from Jay Bershell? No. I thought I'd thanks to you that. He said you were amazing.

That's awesome. You light up there because I truly, you never know if you did. Yeah. Who is his Jay Bershell? He's a very talented Canadian actor. He's been in a million movies, like you would know him if you saw him for sure. I hope he's, he's in a lot of Seth Rogen movies. And I was scared that I pissed him off because of my monologue. I said Jay Bershell. Yeah. Oh, well, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not your saying Joe Rogan. I was like, is he doing movies now?

I was like, oh my god. Oh my god. Whoa. But yeah, so I did this bit where I was dressed like a worm, like a giant alien space worm from Dune. And I was really, that's like a big swing for me. I don't put on costumes and do weird things. You know, and so I was really nervous. And I knew that the the woman who's playing my, my wife in this show that I'm filming that she was also presenting an award that night. And something I was like, I just know as soon as I put on this

anus looking space worm costume, I'm going to meet this woman. And as soon as I put it on, she was like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm just trying to be taken seriously as an actor and I'm dressed like a giant worm. And then I just, I ordered my butthole. Yeah, exactly. I really did look like a giant, a giant butthole. That is hilarious. Well, you, I saw pictures. You looked amazing as a butthole and all the other things. And you crushed. Thanks, man. Did you feel good about it

when you did the, the, because I didn't talk to Jay. You didn't talk to Jay. I had, yeah, actually had a lot of fun. I wasn't, I was that Danny Villeneuve was, was getting a lifetime achievement award. He directed Dune and Prisoner is on these movies. So I got to, I was pretty humiliating standing like dress like a worm begging him for a part. Did you write that or did you have writers that wrote that? I wrote that, but yeah. But then yeah. So that was me meeting this

serious actor who I want to be, I mean, this is a thriller. I'm in. And then I go and meet her at her costume fitting and I go, I just become strange, you know, because I'm like, I just want to make a good impression. I show off. I go, Oh, hey, and she's like, Oh, hi, and I go, how tall are you? Why did I say that? And then she was taller. How tall are you? First thing I want to know. And she goes, five, three. And I go, Oh, same as Sarah Michelle Geller. And she goes, Oh,

have you, have you worked, have you worked with her? And I go, no, and then you go, May fact. Why do I know she's like, what the F? I said May fact. May fact. May fact. I care. I care. I should buy a Twain walk spy. That's May fact. I go, that's cool, girls. It's funny that all of us are doing these acting projects. Yeah. So far out of comedy. I know. I know. In Star Trek, how am I in this crazy action series? May that thriller? We're really showing range. I know. Yeah. How's it going?

Fortunately, mine's great. It's so much work. All the stunts and action takes forever today. Yeah. I'm an Ebsum Salt Bass off. I heard someone, I think it was Jessica Beale or some actor saying that before the Met Geller or something, they took a bath in like pounds of Ebsum salts. Like it was basically more salt than water. And it trivils you right up and you lie in the salt and it's like purifying. I don't think I'm using enough. You could have

known. Yeah. How much you sprinkling in just a little baby. Maybe a male, I need to get the whole bag in there. Yeah. It's not a fun. But I'm yeah, I'm I was like, give me more action this season. They gave it to me. And I'm like, I'm old. Right. Right. When do you when do you run? Uh, in Toronto until the end of August and then we film in Prague. Oh, September. Oh my god. Have you been a Prague? I've never been. No. It is one of the most

beautiful places I've ever been really in my life. Yeah. Oh, man. Did you go there for Thomas' bachelor party? I want to go to Prague. Oh, yeah. I put it on the list. I had a whole hair debacle myself because when I got to film, they colored my roots too dark and I have to match last season. And so then they had to color correct my hair. It was a whole thing and it took like hours and hours and hours. It was never quite right. And then I had to go back at the end of this

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You know, I noticed so many things, but they're never helpful. Like I notice, I don't know, maybe that's the comedian in me or something, but like all of the things that are really obvious and glaring. I just I didn't see it. Yeah. Are you someone who's vigilant about like people's moods? Like do you pick up on if people are a little off or me? Yeah, or really? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause some people are like, oh, I didn't notice that they were.

I guess I can miss on that too, because sometimes I think I take most things at face value. And so if somebody's telling me they're not upset or if they're I don't know, I that's really a healthy way to be because if everybody was just like really upfront, then that would be a good way to live. You just take everyone at face value, but we're all little chickens. So we're all like, yeah, I'm great. Yeah. So someone's like, I'm fine. I mean, if they're if they're of course

an acting. That's really hard. Of course it did, May. I don't know. There's nothing like acting. It's pretty amazing. It was so the way you look. I'm fine. It was very passive aggressive and it made me just want to like work for your approval. It made May want to touch your boob. Yeah. My man boobs. You didn't know these moves. Moves. Is that what you say to jacks? Get in on these moves. I do actually I call every photo was moves quite often. I had to actually speaking of

series acting once in an acting class. I had a kiss a boy on the mouth for like a chin. I know for like a minute. And that felt like a lifetime. Wait a solid minute. Wait a minute. Yes. Hold on. My first kiss was five minutes. Five. Yeah. My childhood. My childhood friend. We reconnected as teenagers after we were like in elementary school and our parents were really close. Yeah. And so I think everybody was just considering us like still children. Yeah. So he spent the night with me

and we had never kissed anybody. So he spent the night and we kissed and we watched my clock the whole time. And we were trying to break a world's record. No. Okay. There's a smooch of a one-eye clock. Oh, most of us had both eyes on the clock. There was not even one close. But anyway, go ahead. That's so funny though that you were like it kind of turns it into like quite a broy thing. Like yeah. We're gonna break this record. Yeah. Like I want to do in this man. For sure.

No, it's a fortune. Who why did you have to kiss this man? I was in an acting class and she's a serious actor. I'm a serious actor, May. I don't know why. I think that the teacher could tell and by the way, it was comedy acting. It was like sitcom. It wasn't even like I was doing a part from like a serious movie and she could tell I guess I was uncomfortable with like I don't even know how it came up. Moves with moves. And this guy was had just started this like horror movie that

was like a huge hit. Kind of out of nowhere. And she was like I'm gonna do an acting and acting exercise with you two. I'm gonna have you to kiss and we're like what? What? This is literally a sitcom. That's not an acting. Maybe she was a perv. I don't know but and he was kind of like what? And I was like what? But we you know that like will follow her and me was like okay. So in front of the entire class, we had to kiss on the mouth. Oh my god. Thank god no tongue. Wait, where else would

you have kissed for the kissing exercise? Just on the tip. We're in Marie and they the clashes watched as we kissed for no reason. It wasn't even in the scribes for a full minute. But like a minute. She must have had a crush on both of you. Yeah. She was a full on May. I'm going to put that. I like I'd like a piece of this one and that one and I can't have it. So I'm gonna have them look it up right now. And then I could never make eye contact with that guy again.

Yeah, of course. And was he chasing your skirt after that? I think he was just like what the fuck is Los Angeles? He did not sign up for this. He's like I'm kissing this one over here. He packed up his trailer and went back home. I was like I just started a horror movie. Yeah, did he did he become famous? Like it was it? No, Anthony Hopkins. No, it like the movie was huge. I honestly don't remember the movies. You know how like all of a sudden this horror movie made

for like a hundred thousand dollars because like this ginormous success. It was like one of those. And then you never hear about it again. That my friend was in an acting class in her 20s and it was just Chuckie. You were kissing Chuckie. Okay, go ahead. Sorry, man. My friend was in an acting class in her 20s and it was just her and no, no, it was a rehearsal and it was her and the male actor and the director and the scene was that he had to like push her against the wall and kiss her.

And the director goes, okay, I'll be the wall. What? Yeah. And then she said I quit. Why are people weird? People are weird, but I'll be the wall. I know. I've heard that one before. I'll be the wall. I'll be the wall that has no pants. You're gonna lay on the floor. I'm the floor. Yeah, Rebecca. I'll be the mattress. That was my that was my only time kissing a boy I think. No. Yeah, you're in a life. Wait, I kissed a childhood friend when we were really little and then I

did touch. I've told you this. I touched one winger, but that was no kissing involved. Yeah. You want to get two intimates. You got to get your numbers up by introducing, spend the bottle at parties. That's what I'm married. I mean, I don't know if Jackson's going to be pumped about me going, you know, Jackson, I want to get my numbers up with these dudes. But I mean, how much would she really care if you're kissing guys? Well, she's a germ gal.

She would have loved me kissing anybody on the mail. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think it kissed hands. I feel like kissing and Stephanie. I don't actually she went like that either, germs. Oh my God. Yeah. A lot of germs. Yeah. You're stuck. Yeah. So no, sorry, all the boys out there. If you kissed one person, do you think Jackson would leave you? I don't think so. Okay. I wouldn't leave her. I wouldn't leave

her. Yeah. What about you, take? No, I would not. We would definitely, you know, probably have some conversations about like what are the feelings here? What's your, what do you want? You know, yeah. It's just interesting to tell where people's lines are. Well, yeah. In the past, would have really been like, yeah, great. And now I'm like, I just wouldn't want to know. If I wouldn't, I wouldn't freak out if I, if I knew, but I'd just feel like, yeah, if you

can do what you got to do and just don't tell me what you got to do. I said before, I told part of like, if you're on a cruise, and you pull, and you pull into Portugal, yeah. And there's a lot of germs there. A lot of germs on a cruise and there are lead Odech. There's some sailor in Portugal. And you feel like if I don't sleep with this sailor this one night, then like, I'll regret it on my death. I think I've told her like to sleep with a sailor. Don't tell me.

But don't you think there will always be another sailor? That's a good question. Oh, interesting no, but a tag. Keep her away from the port. Think about the next sailor. Well, let's start thinking about the next sailor. I'm only thinking about the sailor in front of us. I'll tell you what. I saw a fireman yesterday. You must fireman. Yeah, you guys. It was exactly my dream fireman. He had the mustache that I like. Yeah, and he handlebar. I, not like the curly

handlebar that goes up like, oh, I'm rolling my handlebar mustache looking at you. I made I made my own kimchi to play with my dungeons and dragons. Is that what a handlebar must have person? I would never have put any of that together. But anyway, this man had the mustache that goes over the lip and down to the chin. Yeah, well, no, Hulk Hogan is nowhere near my type. Even if he put a fire out, this guy takes type. Kind of on the Hulk Hogan side. You've seen Stephanie, right?

Yeah, she's baffled by me thinking that is an attractive look. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely baffled. She didn't get it because it's very, it's very dude. Oh my god, it's so, I mean, he's so masculine and like muscular and mustashi and and I was like, holy lord, look at this guy. And you pretended to to feign again? No, I pretended to not care.

I'm really you're a little kid. I'm not looking at him. Yeah, but then on the other side of it, my real type is I do like, like whoever you are in this world, I do like a writer and arts, yeah, funny person. I'm just making my kimchi. Oh, what is this kimchi in my mustache?

I gotta say this is the this like being long distance for the next three, four months is going to be the longest I've gone in my whole life like probably without you know, touching up yeah, yeah, or anything really or anything because you grab it whatever is in the bag, right? I'll I'm a grab bagger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a grab bagger. And so how is that? I mean, isn't Parvity coming out to see you or what like she came to she came out and she brought

your little roommate. Yeah, my little roommate and we had a week. It was so fun. I'm hilarious and and then she's going to come out next weekend and but yeah, then she's she's a way filming stuff this summer. So it's yeah, it's going to be weird. We're I don't know. We just have to go go wild when she's here I think. Yeah, Jackson, I work apart for a while. Oh, you were how was how long the longest you guys have gone? Three weeks was this run. It's hard. Yeah, yeah, I'm at three

weeks now. It's brutal. It's really tough. I don't know how I feel like I've maybe done five weeks or something and that is yeah, it's not fun. And it's like Stephanie and our little cubs and then our kitty city. I like my heart aches over all of them. Like if you sit me down, you you mentioned Stephanie, Max Finn or any of our three individual kiddies. I'm like, oh god, oh god, yeah, it's you were like filming and stuff. I think I was touring and then popping over to Europe

and then doing my special. It was just like a really long chunk and that kind of ran me into the ground a bit with stand up and I'm I'm slowly trying to shake it off. Right? Yeah, yeah, I don't feel like grounded when I'm gone too long. Yeah, yeah, your lifeblood kind of

drains away. Is this are we all are we all really codependent or is this not? Well, that's what's so incredible when I was talking to Stephanie about is not I mean, whether it's codependent or not or if you just love your family, but I was telling Stephanie like what an incredible feeling

to miss your family and your loved ones to not be like, oh god, or oh, I'm so glad they're gone or oh my god, yeah, is I'm sure we've all been in relationships where you're like nice to have some time to myself and which you know, but yeah, this I think a lot of times I didn't even think about it. I was just like, yeah, I'm going on the road or I'm I'm working and and that was that and I just I was like, what's the big deal? And now I'm like, oh, this was the big deal. Yeah,

yeah, it's a privilege to miss someone. It's somebody said the grief is just love in another form. Oh, not got sad. Oh, but you know, right? Well, on that note, we um, uh, here what our oh, I don't even remember how to get into this show. What were you going to say, mate? Well, actually, maybe that's a good segue because I just said something pretty profound and emotional and our questioner today. I think we're all pretty excited about. I would say this person's

we're all kind of in love with her. Would you say fortunate are you a fan? I have become a more recent fan. I will not lie. I did not know about her until, um, recent recent, more recent years. Really? Yeah. And uh, and now I'm very impressed. Uh, I'm jealous that you get to read and seen. Oh, my god. Yeah. Her her books on relationships and her podcast. Yeah. She's so genius. Yeah. Her TED talk. Have you seen her TED talk? Yeah. I mean, just hearing her speak, she's just I was so

enamored when I first stumbled upon her. And of course, people she's been writing and speaking for quite a while and Oprah had been elevating her. I just missed it. You know, I don't, I just missed it somehow. And, but I was truly like, whoa, I really thought I discovered her and I, uh, and then I looked down and she had like five billion views. And I was like, oh, I guess,

guess I'm not on to her. Yeah. She's changed the way I think about a lot of things. She's just like a very two, just those people who have like a deep kind of understanding of the human condition and so much empathy and are so articulate. And no, she is so smart. It's stupid. It's stupid. It's stupid. How smart. How smart this woman is. She, I think she speaks nine languages. Are you serious? Holy. I think I went. I want to kiss her. Yeah. I do. If that say there's

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her book, Made in Captivity, which is amazing. If you're having the sailor dilemma, you got to read that book. And her podcast, Where Should We Begin is incredible. Esther Parell is asking today's question. Yes. I'm a step friend. I'm a psychotherapist, an author and host of the podcast, Where Should We Begin? My question, if you could whisper something in the ears of your younger self, what would it be?

I wish she'd whisper something in the ears of my younger self. You know what I mean? She's like, I don't need you to introduce me. I'm introducing myself. I just love her voice. It is so great. Wait, what was the question? Whisper to our younger self? Yeah, what would you whisper to your younger self? All of that is going to be a whisper. Can you hear me? Do you know right off the bat what you would whisper into your younger? Gosh. I'm interested like what age you'd want to talk to,

what age would you go back to? Well, there's a part of me that was like when I when I first heard this that thought like I would go back to my younger self and say like you're going to be okay. Yeah, you know, like, but then but then part of me when you're younger self, like high, like probably high school when things were a little chaotic then and my family was in a bit of a mess. And so part of me is like, oh, I want to comfort my younger self because I think those

were the times where it seemed like the most dysfunction was happening. But then I think, well, did that difficulty make me work harder? Did it make me? What did he said that to you? He said, listen, you're going to be famous girl. And then you got so overconfident as a teen that you were like, cool, fuck everyone. And then you became a loser. A periah. Yeah, because I always,

I think I've talked about it before. I feel like those difficulties, you know, led me to this path and working hard and and being who I am is part of is a big part of having gone through that difficult time. But there was a part of my childhood where it did feel like, man, this is rough. This is a hard time. And is, you know, is my family ever going to be normal? Are we going to be good? Am I going to or are we going to be able to pay the bills? Are we going to there was all this?

I didn't have peace in high school. So part of me wants to like go back to that that girl and just be like, you're going to figure it out. Everyone's going to be fine. Link arms with her and say, hey, girl. Yeah. Well, you're a little hug. Oh, man. That's nice. I bet you would have got a long. Like, do you think you were funny then? Like, did you have a sense of humor? Like, you could have had a laugh. I definitely, yeah, I definitely had a sense of humor.

I would, it would come out in spurts. So I wasn't like always the class clown. I wasn't like, always seeking attention or trying to be the funny one. But I had my moments where I took center stage and then went back and retreated. It was quiet and shy. So I definitely had humor for sure. But I didn't lead with humor in the way that I do now. Would you guys rather, this is a slight diversion, but would you rather go back in time to a moment of your life,

like to your younger self or to somewhere a random in history that you get to pick? Like, not the Titanic, you don't want to be there, but like Woodstock or something. Yeah, I'd probably want to go back to a more historic time. Yeah. That'd be exciting, right? Yeah, I'd whisper it about yourself. Go do something cool. Well, it's interesting because she said you're younger self and so that could be five years earlier. Oh, yeah, it could be yesterday. Yeah, because I'm not even thinking about

my childhood because that was just a circus. I don't think anyone whispering in my ear would have felt. I would have been like, that is false information. There's no world I'm getting out of this alive. But yeah, I don't know when it would be, but I've probably talked about this on the show, but one of my biggest regrets was not taking seriously my health. Yeah, yeah. And I talk about it

all the time and I apologize if it's boring, but it's like, you know, I'm 53. And even though I've, I'm like, for the most part on the other side of a lot of health struggles, it's not gone. And it's and it's a game of Jenga. And I'm constantly at doctor's appointments. I'm constantly meeting with different doctors. And it's so frustrating because you need to have a medical degree to have any understanding of the complications that I've gone through and so many people have gone

through. And so much could have been avoided. If I, it's that thing of like when you have your health, you don't take it as seriously. And then when you lose it, it's hard to get it back. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's it's really hard. I mean, illness for sure. And then even like little careless injuries that then you have your whole life. Yeah. If I wish like I went to bargaining and kind of messed up my back when I was 15, it still bothers me. It's like,

that's so irritating. Yeah. But then you want to live your life. And well, you know, always you seem so health conscious to me. I'm sure a lot of that is because of where you're at, but you weren't that way. No, that's solely from really what happened in 2012. I did not, I mean, I did things like, you know, I quit smoking when I was 25 and I also would do long distance cycling. But I wasn't doing that for health. You know, I would cycle 100 miles a day

across France or from Montreal to Portland, Maine. And I did stand up in Portland, Oregon and cycled up to Seattle and did a show in Seattle. And it was just that was just trying to push myself my headspace. And yeah, to me that speaks of like you're you're running from like you are chasing some high there or some like like there's there's some energy or ambition in front of yourself

that you're just like, I got more more like I got to chase something. Well, I feel like when I started doing long distance cycling, I was working in production jobs and I was an open mic comedian and I wanted to make the leap from that world to full-time comedian. That was the thing that I did was I

I quit my job. I got a credit card for the first time and I just tried to bridge that gap of like I'm going to get out of my day job and I'm going to free my headspace and spend the day cycling not doing anything other than just thinking and seeing the the road and the scenery and and then when that sounds good when I'm salivating. Yeah, when I finish this ride, I'm going to start all new and go full-time as a comedian and I did and I used that credit card

to bridge that gap but it was never about my health. It was like the psychological element of it. But now as I am constantly juggling doctors appointments and medications and oh, this causes potential depression or bloating or you know all these different things that medications can cause and then sifting through, do I really need to take this medication? No, this one is actually helpful. This is not necessary or more digging. This causes this and that and all of all of those

things. I go back to, man, I wish I would have really looked at the importance of the food I was eating and actually exercising every day and and prior and not smoking. I smoked for so long. But anyway, that's what I would definitely whisper in my ear. Honestly, now that you say that, I would like to also whisper to my childhood self to eat more fruit and vegetables. Because I think I would naturally like them more. Yeah, I would, I think there's so many angles to

go on this. Part of me is like I want to go back to, I was a few months ago when fortune told me about the game best fiends on my phone. Oh no, are you hooked? Dude, I've mentioned it before but like you texted me, you find it out the name of it. Yeah, I did. I saw it out and it's just like a candy crush. It's like a very phone game, but I am like, it feels like if I have a sort of subconscious to-do list in my brain and now that game is on that list and it's like, oh no. Even I get into bed,

I'm going to sleep. I'm like, I got to play for an hour best fiends and I'm playing, it's like a real compulsion. So that would be one thing. I know I can just delete it. It's only when it add on this podcast. But that's recent. You just got my old podcast. That was like a few episodes, a few months ago, fortune said, I've been playing best fiends. Don't download it. If you're listening to this, please listen to me. Listen to my voice first. My voice first.

It's like, what's the name of that again? It's a way to play it all the time too. Yeah, because I think, I think because my brain is always going in overdrive, I'm always thinking, thinking, thinking. And I find that when I'm playing this game, I don't think about anything. And so sometimes I play it to just shut everything down. It's dopamine though. And it's if you think if you have like an addictive person, it's like, it's like this gentle wash of

like, just calm your thought. Don't put your credit card in there though. Oh, I would never put my credit card in. Wait, why? What's going on with the credit card? Because then you can pay for more turns. It's better to like just run out of turns and then you put your phone down. And wait a second. Thomas is nodding and smiling. Have you played this Thomas? I haven't, but it's just, you know, I've gotten into like candy crush or something like that.

And just that arc of getting addicted to a game like that. I think so many people have fallen into that. You know, it's funny. I thought candy crush was like a bug. Like a like I thought, you know what I mean? Like on a computer, like a virus. Oh, yeah, because people would, I would get things when I was on Facebook. I would get like, oh, so and so asked you to play candy crush. And I was like, okay, I'm not clicking on that. I'm probably a virus. Yeah.

Yeah. I was really like that. Can't be one of my friends because my friends are adults and the child's game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so that's one thing. So yes, go back and whisper to yourself. Bitcoin is another. Go back and say invest in Bitcoin. And then it's still up. No, but I would have got out that you would have gotten in and out. I would have gone in and out like Ashton Kutcher. And then I guess, of course, like my teen. But I'm like you fortune. I'm like,

I think I had to have a troubled yeah experience. But I don't know. There's a couple. A couple, uh, yeah, I would have shaken myself. I mean, like you little rat. Yeah, little rat. I think I would have been deeply irritated by myself. That's why I'd rather go back to to Woodstock or something. Yeah. Actually, when Parv came to visit, is this should I share this? Absolutely. That means you should. I don't think you should be annoyed. Well, I already talked about it.

Absolutely. I told you about our role play of the captain and the cabin boy. Yeah. Yes. Of course. Yeah. And she wasn't that mad about that. So I think she wasn't that mad. So she was a little mad. She was so. I was like, what did you say about me? I know. Handsome Pot. I'm like, I don't know. I know. I got a text from Amanda Clutes going, oh my god, I just listened to your episode. Like we're I was saying that Stephanie thought she

was who I would have a crush. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. I was like, you know, like we forget what we say on. I have no idea what I say. Yeah. And I told Stephanie and she was like, you said that. Oh, yeah. But I talked about that in front of Amanda with Stephanie. So. Okay. But she I guess she was thinking for the whole wide world. That's hilarious. I was like, I get, you know,

that you're you can be annoyed. But when part of went to pride this year for the first time since being out and was mobbed by women calling her the captain, I'm like, no, for real. For all of us people, like I think, yeah, I was like, oh my god, that's so funny. What catches on. I know. But speaking of captain, I'm going to call her the captain. Call her the captain. I didn't even remember, of course, but now I remember our new one is, uh, and keep in mind,

we're laughing as we're doing this. But yeah, right. It kind of relates to time travel because it's called them the Neanderthal and the time traveling woman. So it's the the idea is that the part is a time traveler. And she accidentally goes back to Neanderthal times and I'm this caveman. Oh, man. I'm not I'm not a bad guy, but I'm a dumb dumb. And I don't I'm like, a woman. You know what I mean?

And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm just a blunt instrument. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's sort of like, and this leads to sexy time. You touch a boob right after. Oh, one. I'm like a kind of like a never seen woman before. And do you speak like that to her? Sort of. Yes. What's here a little party's like, I'm just a time traveler. I'm like, I'm here. And so wait, she lands in your cave. She lands near my cave. I pick I pick her up. I'm in the cave.

Did near the cave. Okay. I throw over my shoulder. I'm dragging into my cave. Let's hear a little of the pillow talk with the Neanderthal. Come on. It's just like me. Honey. Yeah. It's more an energy than a dialogue. I want to hear it. Oh, it's like like the rough and tumble thing. And just being like, like a kind of like I've won, I don't know, whatever. Anyway, I mean whatever. We're already next to him. I regret. I should have the caption in the cabin boy.

That's all you need to say is the kind of a cat always pretty. It's pretty clear. Yeah. So now just we'll leave it at the time traveling woman in the Neanderthal. Wow. Every episode we learned about a new role play. I need to step it up. It's a real creative, creative partnership. Oh, yeah. You guys are both very creative. That's that's what I love. Is that y'all are on the same page. You both want to play these roles. Weird little horn dogs. Yeah. Yeah. You little horn dogs.

By the way, I never told you guys this Jackson. I, you know, grand marshals of the Chicago ride parade. How was it? Super fun. I wore a I had a t-shirt made. That's like our muscle T. Yeah. But it's a regular T because I didn't want to show off my rock hard. Your guns guns. Yeah. And it said keep it handsome. Oh, yeah. I saw that on Instagram. And as I as we were going through the parade route, it saw a lot of the self-handsome hats and someone really had a sign up that said you're a handsome

butthole. Oh my god. I was like, oh, I must say your butthole a lot. That is hilarious. So that was and it was fun to hear people y'all keep it handsome. You know, as we went through the parade route, it was fun. I'm excited for when we do our live show. If anyone has like funny signs in the audience, this is a yeah, we should issue a challenge like make a sign. Make a sign. Wait, what if we have an entire theater full of signs and no one can see anything? No, you can see.

Still by their live stream tickets for that too. If they want to see, let's keep our signs to a certain size. What is the size like a piece of paper? Piece of paper. Yes. Like a post it. Or a huge flag. Yeah. And I hope people are thinking of their questions they want to ask us because listeners who by the live stream ticket can also ask us questions. Yeah, have a have a watching party with your pals and live stream it and a summer party. This is a time for a summer party. Absolutely.

Wear your muscle tees. Your keep a handsome muscle tees. Sit on a Caesar with Mots, Clomato, chicken, or an apparel Spritz. I love an apparel Spritz. Oh, yeah, me too. Should we hear what Esther says? Yes. I often have thought that if I had the confidence of today with the looks of them, but my younger self was crippled with self doubt and the lack of self confidence.

And I always thought that when you become confident you're sure of things. And what I learned is that whether I would say to my younger self is that confidence is actually the ability to see yourself as flawed, as imperfect and still hold yourself in high regard. That's a different definition. What would you expect? Wow. Everything she says changes my life. She says. She's just

wow. It drives me crazy. I met her in person in New York. She did my old podcast. And um, all I wanted was to know everything about her and her personal life, her relationship, her relationship with her children. And she is on, she is a steel trap. Oh, she really didn't talk about that. No. And I'm just like, come on. Oh, it's just giving up. I mean, that would be the most insane episode that anyone could get out of Esther Perl to just share

everything. Everything childhood. Yeah. Or I want to at least know who her best friend is. And then I have coffee with them and be like, come on. That's surprising. So many people these days want to share everything about themselves and the fact that she's kept it on her own. She's a psychotherapist, right? So that she's true. Yeah. Train to all these incredible ideas and these, these, um, um, you push yourself in a relationship to these new boundaries that you've never reached before.

If you, if you believe what she's saying and you follow these ideas and, and then you, it would be just so interesting to hear like, well, yeah, I struggle with that too. And actually, I, I'm very, uh, I can't implement that myself or, yeah, that would be super interesting. Yeah. It is interesting that confident that she's talking about her confidence now is so just so much higher. I find that to be true too. Like, me too. Yeah. And I was a, a, probably better looking version

myself back then and thinner and, um, and yeah, did not have the confidence that I do today. Yeah, you just get more comfortable with yourself. Should we all try to do her voice or is that, I mean, it would be a no-maj, not a impersonation. Can I try? Sure. Please. What would it hang on? What would it be like to say that to her right now? That was pretty good. How would it be to hear this? It was that, how is that? I thought it was pretty good. I think she would think it was terrible. Oh,

she's, yeah, I don't think she's listening to this episode. Oh, she's listening. Oh, she's listening. She loves this podcast. She learned so much from us. I, I of course don't think she ever would listen to this. But, uh, here's mine. I'm sure she's listening. Um, where should we begin? Hey, that's all I can do. That was very good. Confidence is accepting your faults. I'm going into a Russian accent. Yeah,

that was sort of, I think she's got some of that in her. What is she, what is her? No, I think she's, I think she's from Belgium. I think she's, yeah, Belgium. You want French fries with mayonnaise. Is that good? I wasn't listening. I was thinking about Esther Peral and see when is, when is Oprah going to elevate us, you know, uh, never. Yeah. What is her super soul Sunday? Have these three clowns? It's a head song. Super soul Sunday. She's like, no, you, you, uh, you get a boob. You get a boob.

She's like, now you were talking about, uh, yeah, just someone that you're butthole fortunate. I know. I was like, oh, God, all the things I've said on here. Maybe we can get Gail King to give us a question at some point. I don't think we could even get that close. I've met Gail several times. She's, I met Gail too, but I don't think she's going to do handsome. I think when you're that close to Oprah, you got to be really particular about Gail's pretty

fun. I saw her at the T-Tanique musical. Do you know that musical in New York City? It's a very funny comedy about the Titanic and it uses all Celine Dion songs and it is so, so can't be so funny. How much time do you think has to pass after a tragedy to make a fun musical about it? Time has passed. We've kind of took it. It's true though. It's so funny though. If you, it's an off-roadway musical in New York. And what is it called? T-Tanique. Okay. Because it's Celine Dion's saying Titanic.

And you don't know I've moved to the Sess with Celine. I love Celine too. Can you sing my heart will go on? And my heart will go on and on. Hey, that was good. It's been a while since you've sung to us for a tune. I know you guys. Oh, you know what I forgot to tell you? What? What? This isn't like huge breaking news, but it was such a fun handsome thing out in the wild. I was traveling, went into a coffee

shop. The barista said, hey, I was just listening to the latest handsome episode. And also, I know your coffee order. Yeah, she was like quad de calf oat milk latte. Oh my god. Did you set it on the coffee? Yeah, I guess so. Clearly. And I said absolutely. However, I have switched over to soy from oat milk. Oh, you have? Did you tell her that the handsome pot now has our own coffee? I didn't bring that up because I just didn't want to get into like what kind of roast.

You're like a breeze just selling out there. Yeah. Well, we love her. We love that she knows your order and hopefully her shop starts selling handsome coffee. Yeah, I think they're out. They're out. No, they have their own. I can confirm that. And go check out all things Esther Perrell because also I want to say her podcast, you can read the description of an episode and think, oh, this isn't going to apply to me. This is a couple that has a 30 year difference between

them. Or, oh, this is a trans couple. Or, oh, this is whatever it is, you are wrong. Because every episode you can find yourself in there. And it's just so incredible. So I cannot, I cannot emphasize enough. I just this morning was listening to one about like a reptile dysfunction. I was like, I'm all in. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. Also go to our social media page and get a ticket to watch our live stream show from Toronto where we're going to be reunited the three of us in the flesh.

It's August 24th, but the link lasts for a whole week. Yeah. So you don't have to watch it live. Yeah, you can get your ticket and then you can pick a time to have your handsome watch party. But it's the only time that you can see this show because it will not become another handsome episode. That's right. Yeah. Wax up your handlebar mustache and your nose. Bring your kimchi. Fortune. What did you say? Fortune. And you're you said wax up your handlebar mustache and I was just

and your bush. Just in case Oprah was listening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a real good super soul Sunday in that we got just now. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, Oprah. I know I need to be more lady like, but maybe Oprah has this kind of humor. I bet she's filthy. I bet you're a girl. I bet her instead. Men are doing that time traveling woman. Girl. Fortune. Now you're blowing our chances for being a part of Super Soul Sunday or being on the cover of Oprah magazine. I already told

Gail I want to go on a hike with her and Oprah. Uh huh. And she said, give me your information. I gave her my email and my phone number. I haven't heard her. How was the hike? Oh. I think she might have lost the piece of paper. Yeah. That's for sure. Well, Oprah will hear this. She'll get in touch. And then I saw Gail at T2NK and she said Fortune. So she she at least knows my name. I'll start with that. We'll work our way up to the hike with Oprah. And while we're on the hike, I'll say, Oh,

Oprah, do you ask me some of the questions? Oh my god. No, I don't. Oh, I know what I was going to say. I want to remind people if you haven't seen the movie Am I okay that Stephanie and I directed, please check that out. It has done so well. And so thanks for everyone that's watched that movie. And for those that haven't, check it out. You'll see me in a wig. Yes. Oh, funny. You were very funny in that. Oh, well, thank you.

I have nothing to plug except get hyped for the show I'm filming now. Wayward. Get hyped. Get hyped. And yeah, what else? Yeah, yeah. I got my special sap on Netflix. And then just these, this, this, this handsome live shows where all my focus is at. Oh, I think I have some shows where I'm going to be working out new material in Toronto. I think

right after our live shows. And then when I'm back in LA, just check my website because all of my, my shows at Largo or Dynasty typewriter, I think I'm doing comedy bar in Toronto. Just doing some small shows, working out some new material and having a grand old time. And check out my special hello again on Amazon. Yeah, I don't have any live shows, but if you want to watch more specials, check out sweet and salty and get fortunate on Netflix. And you can

get familiar with Fubar season one. Yes, I'm, I need to, I'm going to binge it so that I'm ready for the when the season. That's right. Yeah, it's kind of like a throwback here. It reminds me like an action series from the 90s. Yeah, that's fun. Cool. Yeah. Well, one another handsome episode, very handsome episode. What a podcast. It was heavenly. What a podcast. Well, until next time, keep it. Handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feemester, Tignitaro and May Martin.

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