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¶ Welcome to Handsome Pod
Welcome to the Handsome Pod. I almost committed to singing it. I'm one of your hosts, Mae Martin, joined by... Digno Taro. And Fortune Feimster. Together again. Together again. Never apart. Tig looks like she's coming in hot from a helicopter ride.
¶ Tig's Gulf of America
Yeah, I am. What you're seeing behind me is the Gulf of America. Jesus. So it really is officially renamed that? I guess, you know, some people are taking to it. Others aren't. Imagine that. Yeah, so that is. It's so beautiful. It looks fake. Yeah, it's really nice. It's right here in my home state of Mississippi. Mississippi. I'm right down the road, actually, from my town. I'm two towns, three towns down.
Yeah. Oh, just three towns down. Yeah. Three towns down, two towns over. For those of you who can't see, Tig is in a high-rise hotel sitch. With a very beautiful backdrop of what is, I guess, now the Gulf of America. Or the Gulf of Mexico. I'll be honest, I do still call it the Gulf of Mexico. Well, as one does, and they've known it to be that for many, many years.
Uh, and no reason to rename it. Um, but, uh, anyway, this is a nice little, uh, commercial, I guess for, um, so well, yeah, it looks like you're, um, Like the Tinder swindler and you're trying to pretend that you have a high flying lifestyle. Like it looks like you've pulled down a backdrop. I'm in Washington, D.C., if anyone is curious. Oh, I care. This love seat is from. Are you there to talk about the Gulf of America, the renaming? I'm trying to get it back to Mexico.
Your passion project? There are a lot of gay flags around here, so that made me feel good. Really? Yeah. There's not too many here in Mississippi. Shocker. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's... pride coming up or maybe it is pride i don't know in october gay yeah i know um some not not all the cities do the summer i and i could be wrong i don't know when dc's is
this District of Columbia here, what they're doing. I know Atlanta, they have their pride in October. Oh, wait, why haven't they renamed it the District of America? Tig, I'm here.
to also get that changed okay i appreciate all the lobbying you're doing yeah i've got my headset on and i will be wearing it to this you are patched into the white house right now because they really want to know what i think about things i promise you i think in the white house they just have a constant stream like over their pa system is just handsome playing all the time just pipe gotta be yeah big fans of us over there
Absolutely. How long are you in Washington, Fortune? Until she gets that work done, right? I'm never leaving. Mrs. Feimster goes to Washington. I like Mrs. Feimster. I forgot I'm not a Mrs. anymore. I'm adjusting. Are you a Ms. or are you a Miss? I think I'm a MS. Okay. Right? Meanwhile, I'm in MS. Yes, you are. Yes, I am.
¶ Mae's Netflix Hit: Wayward
Tig and I have to take a second to acknowledge that we're in the presence of greatness. Thomas? Someone on this pod has a number one hit Netflix show. Hell yeah! That's amazing. Thanks, guys. Numero uno. Wow. In a lot of places, right? In random places, I did not. It's number one in Croatia. Yeah. Number one in Norway. Oh, I saw that coming. You did? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Croatians love a thriller. Yeah. I've watched two episodes now. on the road. Thanks.
¶ Wayward: Character and Production
Thomas came to the screening in LA. That was sick. Amazing. It was so good. I can't wait to watch the rest of the show. I know. It's really good. I can't wait to watch it. May's smoking hot. Now Tig, let me tell you. May's in a tank. Girl, tell me. Tig, girl, girl, Tig. May's in a tank. They've fully embraced the tank now. Oh, I'm deep in the tank. And this is coming from someone who is in a sweatshirt. I'm in a sweatshirt. That is right. Okay, so tell me about the tank.
So May's character is a cop. Which I feel weird about, but I will say it's not a copaganda show. It's not a copaganda and you're commenting on the systems we participate in. Wait, are you spoiling everything? No, I'm not spoiling it. It's in the trailer. He's in their cop outfit. Also, first time we see Mae driving. a car.
Yes, I actually, a lot. And it looked convincing. Really? Yeah, it looked like you knew how to drive and I knew that wasn't true. Okay, see, this is what I picture is May in a car and doing like this. Yeah. arms back and forth yeah like a child may was slow and steady 10 and 2 not even doing too much because you know in in some movies or tv shows there people are driving like this nobody drives like that your car would be I did have to be, I was.
I was told off like I was told that like I like we did a couple takes and then my co-star was like you gotta stop we're driving along a fake road or a straight road you gotta stop yeah straight road hands are steady babe that was the same conversation she told me I have mosquito energy oh yeah that's the actress who plays your wife yeah yeah she's i said what animal do you think i am she said i think like mosquito and they were like action in my head i'm like am i a mosquito energy but
Is that a positive? She said it was. Okay. I liked it. But she's so good, right? Isn't she great? Yeah, she's really good and very believable as a pregnant person. Wait till you see. Wait till you see what she gets up to. Hold on. I'm only two. I'm two and a half. Hold on. Hold on. How does one make themselves believable as a pregnant woman? Oh, you know. Just that energy.
really good synthetic a motherly energy where i was like i believe this well you know what she had just she had had a baby six months prior to filming see okay all right all right the vibe was there i knew it i don't need to be yelled at Not here, not now. Guys, I went, I was so nervous for...
¶ Mae's Post-Show Anxiety
the show to come out and and so i i just ran away to toronto like i got back last night i went i was like i gotta be in my parents basement you know and see old friends so i i was just pacing around my house so i got on a plane i went to toronto
And I left in like a crazy hurry. And then I get to their basement. I have this huge suitcase because I'm only there for four days. My dad's like, well, you packed light, right? And I have this huge suitcase. Get to the basement. I'm unpacking. Open it up. I had brought my synthesizer. No. Wait, you didn't know? I guess I knew. I had a split.
Should I bring that? Should I bring this? Am I going to use that this week? And I thought I might want to use it. So I packed it up. Haven't used it yet. To this day, I haven't used it. That's a gnarly thing to travel with. Well, it's about the size of like three laptops. So, okay. I'm picturing a very long one. This is a mini one. No, it was just bizarre that I thought still got to bring it. Still. Still. Too big.
I need to get back to the important part of the show. Oh, sorry. Okay. Tig, girl. Yes, girl. Girl, tell me. Girl what? There are two times so far where May has had to get up in the middle of the night. Tell me. And go to the bathroom? Nope. Better than that. What? What does May do? to grab a gun and go down the steps but like muscles a glistening let me tell you this whoever whoever filmed may
going down those steps, really caught those biceps. Hello. Hello biceps. Hello good biceps. Hello good biceps. That's good. I'm a wordsmith. And the show's great. I'm just saying this is an extra bonus for those that watch. Oh, my gosh. I cannot wait. Are they oiled up? They are, if I'm being totally honest. Yes, I love honesty. I haven't told anyone this and I have not definitely not flagged it in interviews. Exclusive right here. They're not your real arms. They're prosthetic arms.
Should I reveal this? It's similar to the lip taint, but girls, I contoured. Everyone's a girl in this scenario. I contoured. Girl, I know.
my muscles i got the makeup woman said should i just put a little brown shadowing under the dry stuff i said yes girl yes queen yes queen it worked because i was like god dang thanks i actually did work out so much before those scenes nobody here doubts that we don't doubt it i saw you going down those steps and i said this show is going to numero uno in cruet
In Croatia, for sure. This is shooting straight to number one in Croatia. But I will say the show keeps you on the edge of your seat. What's going to happen? What's unfolding here? it's spooky yeah it's spooky as hell it really escalates by the end it escalates to real action and horror and spookiness but thanks for watching I appreciate that you added humor in there at different points
At one point, someone says they want to be a stand-up comedian, and the mom scoffs at what a terrible job that is. The mom's just like, I'm so sorry. There's another time when they assume the kid assumes the guard is a lesbian and she's not. Oh, yeah. Okay. Where does it take place? In Vermont, but it starts in Toronto. And then they and then the girls.
Well, I don't know spoilers. Yes, don't spoil any spoilers. Wait, but can I chime in? It's your show, bud. Can I chime in? Because we haven't talked about this, that I went to a screening of Come See Me in the Good Light.
¶ Mae's Emotional Film Experience
I didn't get to go. I was filming for both of y'all's things. I can't, I actually can't, like, if I talk about it too much, I'm going to start crying again. But Tig, have you ever seen me like that? After the, I was, like, something. because anyway whatever I could go on and on but like you know when like Tiggs talked about it so much and I was like I'm sure it's gonna be amazing I'm sure I'll cry and but I'm like I don't know guys
I feel forever changed from watching it. Everybody's got to watch it. It unlocked something where I was actually heaving, sobbing. And couldn't hang out after. It was like... bye, Tig, and then hugged you and then scurried away because I was like, I don't know what to do with myself. But can I add, you didn't just hug me and scurry away. You hugged me and held on for a good five minutes.
Oh, I miss this handsome hug. I know it was like a very emotional hug and like it made me very emotional. And like when I thought the hug was wrapping up and I was starting to let go, it was not wrapping up at all.
No, you were not getting out of it. Oh, you held me like a baby. Yeah. You know what it is? I knew I'd be moved by the exploration of... mortality and all that but it it ticked so many other boxes I didn't expect and wasn't prepared for around gender and like mental health stuff and just and also their relationship is so beautiful and aspirational that I just was fucking wreck i don't know but in a good way like it was really cathartic and then i i've held on to it so much
I'm so glad to hear it. And I was so thankful that you came. And, you know, we're doing a few of these little screenings here and there. Apple is like, so. behind this film that makes such a difference oh my gosh they are going they are going for it with us and i should say it's really funny too like that's
That's part of why I was a mess after because it's a fucking roller coaster. You're like, I mean, I was really laughing. Andrea is so funny. And I know that's what I always tell people is like Andrea's live concerts are. so insane from just the depths that they go to, to like the comedy, just the humor. And then also. So many people respond when I say, oh, you know, do you want to come to the screening or do you want, whatever. When I've talked about it, people.
often say, am I going to cry or is it going to make me sad? Which I always find interesting, but of course I understand because people process and handle things differently. They're going through different things.
¶ Andrea's Legacy and Film Impact
But it really is, I really, it's truly a movie about living. Yeah, life-affirming, yeah. It's so life-affirming and really at the end. as wrecked as it makes you at times, do you not feel like I got to reevaluate everything when you walk out the door? Yes. I want everyone to watch it also because we, death is such a. taboo in our society or in western culture and it it was like such a an incredible way to go through that process and like what a gift to everyone to be able to watch someone
go through that with such grace and humor and kindness. And I was like, yeah, it, yeah. You've got to also hit really different. Now that Andrea has passed, that does make it so much more real, probably. Yeah. You know what I mean? Andrea's partner was there. Yeah. Yeah, Meg was there. Meg was there and read a poem after. Oh, man, I wish I could have been there. Meg read Love Letter from the Afterlife. Like I was a goner.
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It did hit differently. I remember, you know, Meg, when Meg was staying with me the first couple of nights and had just been at the screening in Maine and before I saw it. Meg was saying like, oh, you know, it was so crazy. I mean, crazy isn't even the word to see it after Andrea passed because Meg was like, you know, I just wanted to pluck.
andrea from the screen you know yeah but also feels very much like she loves seeing the movie she doesn't want the movie to end she doesn't want conversations about andrea to end she wants to keep talking about andrea she wants to see everything and um yeah that's yeah a testament to how how sort of healthily processed that all like to be able to sit in it and face it and get some positive feelings from it as well instead of just run you know I think a lot of people would
just plow forward and bury their head in the sand because the grief but like yeah I and I have to say it is very different to see now that Andrea's gone but I somehow fall into this like I don't know if it's denial or what, but it makes me feel like Andrea's still there when I'm watching the movie. And I don't know if that's hand in hand of wanting to pluck Andrea from the film, but I...
I can feel Andrea so much. It's crazy. It is absolutely crazy. And, you know, Meg and, well, you'll see this in the movie, but their song.
¶ Uncanny Shania Twain Synchronicity
was Shania Twain's Looks Like We Made It. Yeah. Looks like we made it. Looks like we made it. Look how far we've come, my baby. We sound just like Shania. Absolutely. But it was wild when we got to, I was in London with my family and when we arrived there the first day. I was walking down the street with Max and Finn, and there was just this street performer. We came around the corner, and he was just standing alone singing that Shania Twain song.
And I just stopped in my tracks. I told Max and Finn that was Andrea and Meg's song, and they just stood there. And we just watched this guy sing it. And then the very next day, we were having high tea. Oh, I want to hear about that. With Stephanie and her mother. And somebody in the room was hired to play the harp.
And they sat down right behind us and we looked at each other like, oh boy, because it was clearly going to be so loud right behind us. Yeah, when someone lugs a giant harp in and sets up right behind you. Guess what the first song was. Stop that song. That song. No. Yes. That's wild. What a random song. Yes. And that's not a harp song. That's crazy. Do you think I ever hear that song? I'll send you the footage of both. I videotaped both of it and sent it to Meg.
That's insane. I know. Meg was like, Andrea clearly went to London with the Notaro Allen family. Seriously, yeah. And we had had a conversation about this. very exciting thing that we're going to be doing, that Meg and I are going to be doing with a couple other people. And she was like, I feel like this is Andrea's. go for it oh yeah yeah yeah anyway thank you again for coming it just really meant a lot and you know of course i would love for you fortune and thomas to see it but when
If and ever you're free. And if not, you know, it comes out. I absolutely want to see it. I think it's worth seeing in person. Wouldn't you say?
¶ The Power of Theatrical Film
I very much would like to see it in that capacity. Yeah. It'll be beautiful when people watch it even at home. Yeah. But like in a theater, if it's coming to a film festival near you or there's a screening. I cannot emphasize enough that like how incredible it is to see. Yeah. Like the way you were like, Oh, I've been getting up at dawn and watching the sunrise and walking and.
Now that I've seen the movie, I'm like, yeah, it's because it's also nature is like a character in it. It's so beautifully shot. And just you're like, oh, yeah, we're on a beautiful planet. Yeah. Yeah. Almost as meaningful as my biceps.
¶ Fortune's Voice Acting Role
Yes, yes, yes. Well, I don't want to overshadow either of you, but I am currently playing the voice of a refrigerator on Gabby's dollhouse. So sorry to take your shine away, my buds. Girl, congrats. That had the energy of them. Why did I go as Alf? Nothing will ever top that. Someone's a refrigerator. Whoa. Is Gabby's Dollhouse animated? It's both. Okay, okay. Wait, I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with it.
Gabby's Dollhouse. It's like a popular series that's like a real girl and animated. Oh, okay. Yeah. She shrinks down and then goes in. Yeah. This is the, it's very popular with young, like, like young, young girls. And it's now a movie. Like four? Like five. Yeah. Four, five. Oh, wow. And this is a.
The movie version, Kristen Wiig plays the villain and Gloria Estefan's in it. And then I'm one of the... animated girl i love me some gloria estefan i know i love her too no fortune i will wrestle you for that woman i love her she used to watch chelsea lately back in the day I love her. She yelled my name down the hall once. This is like when I first got on the show. She was like, Fortune! And I was like, Ah!
Oh my God. How about passed out? I love her. So I did some event with her, I think in Florida. And I was like, I mean, I, you know, my. I'm a little more in the music world. And so my excitement. Than Gloria? No, no, I'm saying like. I just mean like as far as TV or film, I'm like, oh my God, Gloria Estefan. That's where I'm like, there she is. She's incredible. She is so cool. She's so talented. I just love her.
Yeah. Anyway. Kristen Wiig as a villain is my, if you like, if you had to boil down my sexuality to like a few sentences, one of those sentences would be Kristen Wiig as a villain. Yeah. Hilarious. I, of course, love Kristen Wiig, too, because I am alive and I am a human. Yeah, she played the villain in Barb and Star. Oh, yeah. No, wait, it wasn't. Wait, Barb and Star. She played both roles.
Oh yeah, of course. Who was she? She was star and she was one of the bar more star. She was in the movie. She also played the villain. Yeah.
¶ Tig's Family High Tea Tradition
She's so funny. She's so funny. Did you want to tell us how high T was really quick? Oh, gosh. Well, I love that you guys think... We only had high tea once. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Max and Finn have been drinking tea since they were two years old. And in our front living room. Um, there's no TV, it's just a fireplace. And, um, and we used to, we got them these little tiny mugs when they were, you know, two and, um, and we would.
put tea on and then we would go sit in that room with them and we would say now let's sit down and have tea and talk and um and so of course the tea was like room temperature but um
we wanted to like get them into that world of like having tea and chatting with people. And it was so cute because when they were two, they would just sit there, you know, in their little diapers. And, um, I mean, they had pants on but whatever and having having tea and talking about their dump trucks and uh you know and whatever yeah and it was just so cute so they've tea has been in their world
since they were two, tea for two year olds. And, um, so they were very excited to go to England and have tea. And, um, so every day we had. Every day. Every day. Did you go to the Wolseley? Where did, where did you go for tea? Most of the time we were, Stephanie was filming in the countryside. Oh, nice. And so we were put up at a hotel that had.
A lot of activities like pool. You could swim in the pool. They have a golf course. You could rent bikes at archery. So we stayed there for like four days and there was a little. You know, the hotel was so big. It had several different restaurants. Is this Soho Farmhouse? No, it's called The Grove. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you know The Grove. I know The Grove. Yeah, so that's where we stayed. And so there was a restaurant at The Grove that we went.
and had high tea at. And also Stephanie's mother's mother. So Stephanie's grandmother is from England and she met us out there and it was a big deal for her too. To have tea every day with her grandsons. I'll send you a cute picture. Little, tiny little cakes and scones. I love all the treats. I love all the little desserts and scones. Yeah. It was so fun. And, you know, they were just so...
They had never been, aside from Canada, they hadn't been out of the country. And so, um, no way. Yeah. They showed up ready. to be in another country like everything we did especially finn he would be like everything's just so different here wow oh my gosh look at that look at the you know like the telephone booth and oh my gosh the double-decker bus it's just so crazy how different everything like they were just so
¶ Children's English Accents & Travel
excited I love that yeah it was really sweet it was so fast and they if I can brag for a second They hardcore acclimated like nobody's business. And we got a hotel outside of Stephanie's hotel the first night. because we didn't want to bother her while we were up at weird hours. Yeah. And I made them stay up until 7 o'clock. which was still a little early because they woke up at like 2.30 in the morning. And we started our day at 2.30 in the morning. And then I had them stay up.
I was like, you guys have to stay up till eight tonight. And they stayed up till 930. Max did fall asleep at dinner, but they did so well. And then after that second night, they were. perfectly fine wow and it's really incredible because yeah that's a hard hard quick haul that we do yeah yeah and they are just nine
You know, right. I would not have pulled it off as well. So I'm very impressed by them. I hope they came back with full English accents. Finn did start kind of talking. He'd be like, should we go? And then I also found, we got them journals and I found a to-do list that Finn had put together that he checked off of like, you know, phone booth. Black taxi cab. Big Ben. And it was really cute. Did you tell him I'm good at accents? No. They must know that. Everyone knows that. A spot of tea.
Is this Australian? You want a spotty? Which accent is this? Croatian, I think. Cocky. It is Croatian. Can we hear your Croatian accent? I wouldn't even know how to do that.
¶ Youthful Voices and Comedy Shifts
I was impressed with Toni Collette's American accent. Isn't it great? It's so great. And in my show, her accents.
When I went home, my friend showed me these old videos she found of us when I was like 14. I just watched these a couple nights ago. And I'm doing this weird voice. It's like a... just trying to be cool or something but it's like yeah i don't know that's pretty cool like it's really weird it's just a weird intonation and yeah i don't know i guess it's pretty cool that we go to the store but it's weird it's weird i don't know what movie i watched
and was like, let me be that guy. And you were just doing it like as a bit? No, I was like, this is my voice. That's your new accent. Yeah. We were both like, why are you talking like that? Yeah, and then... Oh, man. Some of the stuff on these videos is comedy is not evergreen. Some of the things I'm saying would not fly.
I mean, not in a dark way. I just kind of was like, I'm an edgelord, you know? Yeah. Everybody's crushing it here at the Handsome Pond. Yeah, big time. Especially me here at the Gulf of America. I'm Mormon Me from Gabby's Doll. Yeah, okay. And your campaigning you're doing. Amazing. It's fall and cozy season is in full swing. Your sweaters are out of storage and you're going for layered looks with comfort on every level. Honey Love makes the best wireless bras that feel like a second.
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¶ Chris Colfer's Past Lives Question
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Today's question asker is an Emmy and Grammy nominated Golden Globe winning actor, singer, and author who came to fame for playing Kurt on Glee. He is the author of over 20 books. I don't think a lot of people, I mean, these books are very popular, but I don't think a lot of people know that. Wow. Including the New York Times bestselling fantasy series, The Land of Stories.
He stars in the upcoming horror comedy, The Restoration at Grayson Manor. My friend, Chris Colfer, is asking today's question. Hey, handsome pod. It's Chris Colfer here. And it is an absolute honor to be asking you guys a question. I am a huge fan. And my question is, do you believe in past lives? If so, who do you think you were? And...
If spiritualists are correct and time doesn't exist on the other side, is it possible that more than one person is walking around with the same soul at one time? And is that what the true meaning of soulmates and soul groups is? This guy is barking up my tree. I thought he was going to say, is this the true meaning of... Christmas. I love Chris. I'm going to introduce you to the best head of hair you've ever seen. Unbelievable. And what about mine?
Yeah, sorry. I mean, yours is incredible, too. Thank you. But also, speaking of arms, he's ripped. Oh, ripped. So handsome. I feel like we look kind of related. I think we've got to have dinner and talk about it. Y'all are going to be friends. I'll make it happen. Yeah. He's the sweetest. He got famous at like 15 or something and is one of the most normal down to earth.
That Glee show is humongous. Yeah. And he absolutely crushed it on there. And it's just the loveliest guy. Also, how cool to then go and write books. I know 20 books is insane. But it's a whole series that like with all these, this, this made up world, this it's very big and creative and. Is it for kids or adults? I think it's like middle school kind of. Yeah, middle school, I believe. And his partner, Will, is amazing. They're awesome guys.
¶ Reincarnation Theories and Beliefs
Okay. Energy can't be created or destroyed. We know this scientifically. Sure. Sure, bud. I believe you. My son, Max, says until we find... The source of energy. Of course. But how will we find it? I don't know. We don't know where it goes, and we know that when you die, you lose, is it 21 grams of weight? And no one knows why. And that might be the soul. I don't know. But I think of all the theories, reincarnation does make a lot of sense to me that there's some source energy and then we're.
little droplets of it you know yeah and and uh so i'm gonna say yes i believe in past lives but that We might be a vapor in one life. We might be on a different planet in another life. A vapor? What a bummer. What a waste. Would you be pissed if you came back? Yes, clearly. I want to have been something else. Like what? What do you want if you're not a vapor? I believe in past lives as well. Yeah, love it. I'm going to assume I was some sort of farmhand.
Oh. I think that's a safe assumption. Because of the headgear? Maybe. What do you mean? Why? No, I just feel like I was probably kind of like the farm boy in... oh princess bride yes yeah yeah yeah yeah i like that boy fetch me that picture that was me and some hot and some hot chick was yeah and you were going in love with yeah that was i'm basically that was me You were Wesley. Okay. Yes. And so, but couldn't you, couldn't a past life also be from like, what year were you born? Moi.
In a past life, you were French. My goodness. You were just channeling. You're Napoleonic. That was my other past life as a French person. 1980. Okay. Could a past life be from the 70s? or does it have to be long ago? Yeah, it could be the 70s. I mean, I'm just, I'm going to say, yeah, it could be from the 70s. And I think that as...
You learn something. And so I think people who are old souls and have had like many lives are sort of further along in their process of the school of life. I mean, this is all I'm talking out of my. But, you know, these are things I intuitively hear. Out of your what? Anus. Out of my fortune Marie. Not today. Tig was a school teacher in the past life. A Catholic school teacher. But I kind of wish that we all had glasses where if we looked at each other.
it would just show like special glasses. You put them on and it would show how many lives everyone's on. So I could, that would be so cool. That's like an episode of black mirror or something. Yeah. Cause you don't want to be, you're. Someone asks you out, you put your glasses on, they're on their third life only? No thanks. I want someone who's on life 20, 30. Oh. They've learned.
sometimes you meet people you know where you're like i know this person yes like i they are so familiar to me i have to say my ex something to that right and it's not just because i New Poverty from Survivor. But when we met, I really felt like, I mean, yeah, we both were like, we've met. We know each other. So what do you think about past lives? Do you believe in them? I mean, I feel like it's one of those things where I'd be so cool if that exists, you know, if that's real. I think that.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. You're kind of on the fence about it. I am a little on the fence. That's fair. But, you know, I can follow. that thought and be like yeah that makes sense um that'd be cool if that was that was yeah I don't know I'm just I'm not confidently right
¶ Souls, Dreams, and Life Lessons
Chris was talking about soul groups and things and soulmates. A lot of people are into simulation theory because it feels like... There are only a handful of algorithmic types of people. And so you meet someone, you go, oh, we must be the same programmer made us. Like we're the same blueprint of person. So that could be another explanation.
he was saying can there can what was it that two people have the same soul so that's what a soulmate is like you're like oh we have the same soul like one soul split into two things maybe That I've never thought about. I don't know. I just always assumed one soul was kind of bouncing around one at a time. Do you think that we knew each other in a past life, all of us? No. Okay. You think no, Tig? Okay, riddle me this. What if it's old and timey days and it's like a pirate ship and...
What position would we all have on the ship? I think I'd be cabin boy, obviously. Cabin boy, yeah. You like that in your sexual fantasies. Yeah, I do. Actually, let's get off this subject. I'm getting too into it. Tay would probably be the captain, though. Yeah. Would you be captain? Why would I be captain?
I don't know. Are you good with directions? I mean, I can drive a boat. I can drive a boat. I can drive a motorcycle. I can't even drive a car. I'd be the one getting the people together for the poker game at night. Yeah, you would be? Yeah, why not?
The fun guy. The fun one. Yeah. Who the captain's like, can you just... show me the map already i have to just focus the whole time yeah you're the captain sorry you're just standing at that big ship's wheel just staring at this constellations navigating but who do y'all think that y'all okay Tig, say that you did believe in past lives. I know you're not totally against it, but you're not totally for it. If you had to guess who you were in a past life, what would you think you were?
A cat or a bird. Oh, an animal. Interesting. Okay. Cat or a bird, two natural enemies. That makes sense as to why you don't want to eat animals. Right. Because you were one. Deep. Deep, right? Real deep. Deep as the Gulf of America. But why those particular animals? I just... when you asked me that question, my brain did not go to my heart, soul, brain, everything did not go to a person. It went to, um, I mean, honestly,
As we mentioned, I'm on the 26th floor here. Birds come flying by so close to this window with wingspans of like... I mean, honestly, it seems like three feet, gigantic birds. And, and I've just, I'm so envious of them. I just think birds are the most incredible. incredible creatures and you know i love a cat yeah it's interesting that if you were a bird that you would then choose to be you now like you maybe you got tired of that you wanted to have a
an earthly terrestrial experience. You wanted to have feet like Ariel and the Little Mermaid. You were always singing it when you were up in the sky. You were going... Was I? Flapping around, you don't get too far. Legs are required for doing stand-up. But yeah, that's what I didn't connect at all. Up where they run. Up where they stay all day. In the sun. Wait. What is that from?
Little Mermaid. Oh, because Stephanie sings that at our house all the time. Because you wanted to have legs. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, I just didn't, my brain did not. My brain, heart, soul, nothing connected with a person. Okay. Actually, I would also be a fish, I think, too. Oh, a little dolphin or something? Yeah, that sounds about right.
I don't connect with being a human in my past life. Fortune, you're going farmhand. I'm going farmhand like the guy from Princess Bride. What year would be the farmhand? What is the era that was? What is that, like 1600s? It's kind of medieval. Yeah, something like that. See, that's why I was asking. It seems like people with past lives, ghosts, all that stuff, it always seems to be hundreds.
of years ago that people go to that's why i'm like could it be just from the 70s yeah it could be but maybe after you live a life you're like exhausted and you just chill up and you take a rest, take a break. And then you're like, all right, here we go. Yeah. I think a bird probably slammed into a window or something. Like here at this hotel. And then you were born. And then I just, yeah, I was born in Mississippi right after that happened. You're saying, on the wings of love.
there's a boat behind you where do we think it's going that way that way now may what did you think you were in a past life Well, if my dreams are anything to go by, like if I'm tapping into past lives in my dreams, then I was a murderer with them because I keep having recurring dreams. I know. Recurring dreams where I've killed people.
In the past, I never see myself kill them, but basically I'm on some kind of road trip with friends. It's happened recently. We need a dream analysis. Yeah, the police are closing in. We need to call the police. No, Tig, don't. That would ruin the pod, Tig. Yeah, I can't pod from Priz. Tig, think of the pod. May is completely replaceable.
I can't pod from Paris. Wait a second. No, not at all. You're just going to get Chris Colfer in? No, in my dream, I've hidden the bodies badly and I know that. And I'm like... Any minute now, they're going to float up from the bog that I sunk them in. You know what that is? Imposter syndrome. Lies. Lies that have come to light. Fortune, I don't have lies that are going to come to light. May has never lied. We know this. Your internet's coming on at 10.30. May has only told the truth.
I think it's imposter syndrome. I think it's feeling like at any minute people are going to figure out, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. And that's the... And I always, I feel awful in the dream. I'm like, my friends are going to be so mad. God, you're even feeling guilty in your dreams. Yeah, I'm a guilt. I'm a shame based person. No, we gotta, we gotta change that. I know. Right. But the body keeps the score. Cause you got nothing to be guilty.
I got a song for everything today, baby. Yeah, I like it, baby. Who are you calling baby? Me or me? Oh, both of y'all. Girl! Girl! we gotta get this shame guilt stuff out
¶ Mae's Digital Detox Journey
Well, that's why I'm going to this institution. Oh, that's right. You're taking a holiday. No, not a holiday. I'm going. May is finally going to be locked up. You're going to a med spa. I'm going. No.
Also, life coaches? No, it's actually... i mean i don't want to say the name of it but it's like the name of it it's like well known and it's um been around since the 60s it sounds kind of like the plot of wayward so i'm a little worried i'm gonna get brainwashed or something well let's think about the pod though do you think may's gonna change oh yeah i already talked about it
on the pod, Thomas says. Wait, what do you mean do I think May's gonna change? What if May goes to this and changes? Guys, I can hear you. Hold on a second, Ray. You're not as funny as you used to be. You're all serious now. If you think I haven't thought about that and I got worried, you're wrong. And then I felt guilty about it. And then you felt guilty about it. No, but I do want to shake off some pass.
Another boat. Do you think you did that when you were a bird too? Guys, boat. Maybe you'll just get really... introspective for a minute. Oh, for sure. I think I just want to shed this constant sense of dread and guilt that I seem to have been born with. I would love for you to get rid of that because you don't need that. It does not serve you anymore. I just want six days away from my phone. Six days? They take your phone, man.
Isn't that crazy? Is that why you're going to get away from your phone? Honestly, I think that's... a huge part of it because it's like a dopamine detox almost right like I'm I'm on it way too much and uh and with the show just coming out like I'm so glued to my phone it's impossible not to be And it's such a weird, unnatural experience for a person to have like reading stuff about yourself in like international press. And it's like, even if it's positive, it's weird to read because also.
the it's not just reviews of the show it's always about me personally it's like ex-drug addict trans person may martin and you're like oh is that who i am like it's very weird and unnatural now are you only reading News from Croatia? Of course. That's where I get all my news. What a wild thing to have as the headline, though. That wasn't an actual.
you know what I mean like every article is sort of about it's just like overwhelming and you think oh my god I guess that lives on the internet forever now like it and it's so exposing and
¶ Combating Online Transphobia
yeah weird even like a description of your appearance and stuff it's just not normal to read that kind of thing you're like this is fucked so get me to the institute right well you have the Double whammy of it. You're starring in it and also created it and wrote a lot of episodes. And you know what? I will say in today's climate, it is like a little scary to stick your head above the parapet as like a trans person. And already.
I'm getting a lot of hate and I can tune it out. Yeah. I don't look for it. So I, I don't really have to interact with it at all, but it's like, you know, it's, it's creepy and scary and yeah. Yeah. And you think. Yeah. And you know what's interesting? Because in the show, there's not a single conversation about my character's a trans guy, not a single line of dialogue about it. But people are still so mad. So then you're like, oh, you are just mad that trans people exist because...
That's just, it's not, and they're like, stop shoving it down our throats, this ideology. And you're like, what ideology? Like, it's just a crazy thriller. I mean, for once and for all, if you don't have anything. nice to say, or any interest, move it along. If you don't like the show or the movie or the podcast or any, just... Go find the comedian. Go find something else. I don't understand. How is it affecting you? I really don't understand when people have to stop and negatively.
comment write you about the thing they don't like just don't watch it it ain't for you yeah it's just move along It's good enough for the people of Croatia. Like, come on. Yeah. But anyway, I went on a little tangent there, but mainly that's why it's good timing, I think, to just go for six days away from my phone. Yeah. Sorry you're dealing with that.
Also, how exciting that you're number one in a lot of places. It's awesome. And also how exciting that Come See Me in the Good Light is coming out. Also, trans issues. Yes, gender stuff. Yeah, compassion. That was one thing I took away from it was like Andrea talking about in the past before they kind of came into their own identity, like how they felt.
self-destructive and sort of didn't like their body and stuff and I really related and it's that's why it's so infuriating because it's like whatever shit I've done in the past couple years to sort of embrace this identity and I got top surgery and stuff, it's like it's only made me just a more productive member of society and a happier person who's kinder to people, kinder to myself. So it's like, who cares?
Yeah, move it along, Bozos. Move it along. Move it along. If you don't like this episode, move it along. You don't like the show, move it along. the show move it along if you don't like the movie move it along you don't like our comedy move it along you don't like the gulf of Mexico. I'm glad you brought that full circle. Move it along. Everybody's all up in everybody's business.
fucking live your life like when I like something I am so into it I can't wait to tell everyone about it if I don't like it or I don't like a comedian what do you do I'm not going to tear anyone down. I'm going to move it along. Yeah. I hope when I get to this, um, therapy plays you're the you're the coach and that's the message Well, listen, should we see what Chris's answer is? Yes, I forgot about that part of the show. Let's move it along. Let's move it along. My answer.
No, I don't think the universe would put more than one of me in any place at one time. All right. Love you guys. Wait, Chris. I would have bet my life that there was going to be an in-depth answer here. When did he move it along? He sure did move it along. Wait a second.
know if he believes in past lives it was kind of like a cindy lopper situation where she's like did you would you write a cookbook and then come back to her i would and and that was such an amazing episode um but yeah he had such a in-depth question and then yep nope He's really long.
I mean, what do you think? Who do you think Chris was in a past life? You know him, Fortune. Oh, man. Bird or cat? He sings with that high-pitched voice, so a pretty little lady at some point who's an opera singer. A beautiful voice. heard it's from glee but it's him him and i think leah michelle singing sing hallelujah come on get happy the duet that barbara streisand and judy garland did and he he plays judy oh stunning
He was a thing on TikTok for a long time that everyone played. They like mimic. What was that? Oh, like they lip sync? That was him. What did it get me? What is that? Gypsy Rose Lee or something? I don't know, but that was him singing it. He's very talented, that guy, but also doesn't like to answer all of his three questions. And let's go to Chris now.
¶ Upcoming Shows and Fond Farewells
The answer is no. Well, what a treat, you guys. What a treat. Yes, indeed. Good to see you guys. And I'm headed back to Los Angeles tomorrow. Great. I'll be waiting at your front door for one of those emotional hugs. That was a good hug. Oh man, it was actually. I'll remember that. I'm on tour. I'm going to be in Atlanta this weekend.
at the Symphony Hall, if anybody wants to come to that. And then Chicago Theater, San Jose and Fresno, California, Charlotte, North Carolina, St. Petersburg, Florida, and Orlando. Then for New Year's Eve, Seattle, Washington, Vancouver, and then a bunch of new dates that have been rescheduled to January, February. I'm going on my first ever big... Tour. What? Stand up or music? Stand up. I'm going on a tour bus and everything. Oh, yeah. You mentioned that. Yeah.
I'm so scared, but tickets are on sale today. You can go to maymartin.net. I'm going to 35 different cities at 10 a.m. local time. The pre-sale code. Yeah, this is a special pre-sale code. capital letters it's m-a-e-l-i-v-e so that's may live or may live who knows but um yeah please come because the venues are too big and too ambitious and it's too many cities and i'm
Real scared about that. It's going to be so fun. And also, if you're in LA this month, on October 17th, I'm at The Lyric doing new stand-up. On October 29th, I'm at Largo with very special guests. I am going to be at Largo in Los... Angeles on October 17th. And then also, please make a note, Apple TV, November 14th. Come see me in the good light premieres. Please check it out. Oh, and I am also on season four of The Morning Show, which is on Apple as well, and that's airing now.
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