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Brandi Carlile asks about Jesus

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Summary

Tig, Mae, and Fortune share a lively discussion, kicking off with Mae's unusual rice experiment testing intention and reality, followed by hilarious anecdotes about car make-outs and strange hotel amenities. They also reveal their experiences with a "torturous yet enjoyable" foot massager and share amusing "pooting" confessions. The episode culminates in a thoughtful exploration of Brandi Carlile's question on how the word "Jesus" impacts queer people, covering personal faith, religious hypocrisy, and the importance of acceptance and community within Christianity.

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Handsome icon Brandi Carlile blesses Handsome with a question about a well known dude! Plus taxi makeouts, vajazzling "Tig," poots, foot massager fun and much more! Don't forget to get tickets to our May 4 Live Show in LA!


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Intro / Opening

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Podcast Intro and Early Banter

Cheers. Welcome to the Handsapod. I'm Fortune Beamster. I'm Mae Martin. And I am Tignotaro. Oh my god, that was the cleanest we've ever introed this podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I just went for it. I I took a risk. Already'cause we're in the same place. Our energy's electric. You stuck the landing. I'm in the middle of the day. I was ready. Yeah. I d I did see my pull up in their car. Yeah. Why are your hands sweaty?'Cause you drove here.

'Cause mate's still nervous about driving. I g hold tight. Two hands tended to gripping. Like gripping. Yeah. Yeah. Gripping. I think so. Yeah. I think so. What in a car wash though. How was that? Did you mean to? Uh yeah, I think yeah, I meant to. Okay. And it was

I love the whole experience. How the guys kinda tell you, okay, move forward and you drive. I can't stand that. How many told I hate it? Oh really. I can imagine depends on the guy. I had a nice guy who was we were joshing around a bit. But you had a humorless No I'm not looking for a funny uh You're not looking for a friend? No, I'm not. I'm just trying to park the car. Right. And uh if somebody gets behind me and they're like

And I haven't asked them to. They're just like, get a w like, get out of here. You know? When they just like Yeah. I guess it feels like mansplaining or something to me. Cars splain in. Yeah, cars splain in. Don't eat it. See, when we're together in the room, there's so much more Stimulant. Well well, fortune just tried to touch bracelets. You know what I love about you? What? When your voice makes that catch. Yeah, that's that's

That's that's the sweet spot. Okay. Let me tell you about this. My um childhood friend Eliza, she made this for me. She makes bracelets. Mm-hmm. And um and she's Korean, so she has a little Korean um Something on here. Oh is it like a Oh there it is. I don't know what it says. Okay. Can you read Korean? Um I cannot. Okay.

And then I can but I choose not to at the moment. You choose not to read Korean. And then this is from Sandro, who is um the number two on Starfleet Academy. He's right under Holly Hunter. Okay. And he's the young kind of Rebellion. kid on the show that Holly's trying to you know you know. Anyway, so he got these um for all the cast after season one. And my my character on Star Trek, my name is on here. Reno. Oh, that's nice. I like that you had maybe maybe we need friendship bracelets.

Are these friendship bracelets? Well if you got one for everyone on the crew, yeah, that's a friendship bracelet. This is a coworker bracelet. Oh wow. We need to get co worker bracelets. Yeah, yeah, true. I think we're are we uh we're not friends? We're more than friends. Yeah. She's back. She's back. I knew you were gonna come around. Playing hard to get'em and always come around. Trig. Come on now. Come on. Yeah. I know. Did you guys notice I have makeup on?

No. I don't have my glasses on. Notice that you have makeup on. Yeah. Do you look hot? Except for ones that are here. Um very good. She looks hot and humid. Yeah, yeah. I'm not even gonna put my glasses on. Just tell me I just have a lot m makeup on. I'm gonna put my glasses on. Put'em on. Take it all in. I was filming today. It's really subtle though. It's like it's just bringing out Your inner beauty. Your curls are tight. What are we talking about? You know what I mean? I don't.

I'm not gonna... Something is I'm not gonna go any further. Okay. I'm wearing makeup too. Are you? Yeah, always clear mascara. No, not today. Just the usual boy brow. Nikki later heard heard the thing about us riff and unclear mascara and always laughs about us. She did. Talking about clear mascara. That's crazy. It's crazy that people hear this podcast and especially friends and family. I know. Where they're like, Oh my gosh, I was listening this and that and I'm like

You listen to my show? I know, I know. I went on a walk around the res with friend of the pod Allison Bree. Oh you did? I always just I never quite believed that she listens to it. It's almost like I want to test her, but she really does. She's like, she still texts me occasionally with some reference.

She knows what's going on. Yeah. She's the best. She's so funny. It was such a nice walk. If only she were in good shape though. If only she was prettier. If only she was attractive and in good shape. They're a good looking couple, those two. They're a great looking couple and really smart and writers and yeah. I'm into it. Mm-hmm. And they yeah, they're Collaborative. Yeah. Yeah. I uh Yes.

The Rice Experiment and Intent

Well, unrelated. Okay, that's a pivot. Okay. So you know I'm I'm prepping to go on tour and part of what I'm thinking about is like, is magic real? And can I affect reality with my mind? So This is part of the stand up? Sort of the themes I'm thinking about. Hilarious to me. Yeah. Well you know what? I don't know if you know this, this is true. Com or magic is kind of Moving in on comedy.

Do you know this? In like popularity and like close ups. Well like m magicians. Yeah, magicians. Magicians. That whole world is becoming gigantic. Yeah, what does that signify, I wonder, about where we're at? We just want to be astounded. But I'm more like uh spirituality or things that two hundred years ago they would have said were magic, but now we know it's science. Anyway, so I keep seeing those experiments with um

rice. I think I've talked about it. You put rice in two jars. Okay. And then you write I love you on one of the jars. You write I hate you on the other jar and every day you go to the one, I love you so much and then to the bad one you're like Oh, I hate you. You're awful Is this what you are doing? I've been doing this every morning. And it's a really weird thing to do on by yourself, but uh Or even with people, I would say. Yeah. And I've seen this online tons of times where the

The one that says I hate you rots faster. Really? Yes. Guys, guess what happened? What? You ate it. You had a b a beef bowl. The one I say I love you too. Said I love you back? It's rotting. So what is Is my love rotten or am I did I smother Is it rotten? Yeah, do you normally say rotten? Rotten. I don't know why I said it like that. Well your accent's all over the place. I don't think I would normally say rotten, but

I don't think your love's rotten. I think you got some bad rice. I mean it's significantly no, but it was the same batch of rice. But the one you the the Thank you for digging into this. you rice is rotten. And this is perfectly pristine and white. White rice? It's cooked. It's cooked white rice. Okay. And I'm not saying like one of I mean the one I say I love you to is black mold. And the other one perfectly pristine. This is weird.

At what point do you toss it? Soon. I think it's time actually. Maybe the I love you is hearing you say I hate you, you're doing it too close to each other. That's possible, but then how come the I hate you ones not? 'Cause it's a narcissist and it only hears that you love it. Yeah. I don't know what the hell's going on,'cause it I've proved something but not what I was expecting to prove. And I feel

Yeah, worried about what my focus is doing to that rice. Is that what part of it is the hypothesis? I remember that word. The hypothesis is that your intention can affect reality and I've read all about this rice experiment where And this is before you do the experiment. You have a hypothesis. And then you try to prove the hypothesis. Yeah. Right or wrong. And

Yeah, like you know how if you're kind to plants they flourish. Yeah. So it's that kind and that's scientifically proven. Yeah. If you sing to them you talk about it. I flourish in kindness as well. Don't we all? Uh uh yeah. Do we? Does everyone flourish in kindness? Yeah, people flourish in kindness. Some people like to be her mascus.

Yeah. Yeah. Some aren't really into that. Yeah, but but like uh you know how they say that girls like a bad boy? Right. Oh no. Like they don't flourish in kindness. Have you ever liked a bad boy? Me? Yeah. Hmm. Me? Yeah, fortune imagine in front of you there's nice boy and bad boy. They're both handsome. Well don't like

I don't like boys, so I guess for fun I'd go with the bad boy. Why not spice it up, you know? That sounds fun. Like that guy in that show you watch who knows how to put it down. That's right. Yeah. Tell me lies. Tell me lies. He's a bad boy. I I think I had a little bit of a thing for some bad girls. Bad girls. Yeah. Okay. Oh yeah, of course. Bad girls. Yeah. Yeah, we all like bad girls. Well, I don't want that.

I don't want a bad girl. No, no, no. Me neither. What do we mean by bad? Like just people that um it chaos induces. Yes. Right. Right, right, right. Yeah. I like a bit of it in a safe

Car Kisses and Hotel Stories

Container. Uhhuh. With rice. With rice. Yeah, yeah. I like a sprinkle of like unpredictable. Wait, have you made out any more with the person you made out in the car with? Uh With that person I have not. Did I know about this? No, yes you did. I did. Remember I was let down because I thought it was gonna be a salacious. Oh, that's right, that's right. But you guys thought I was let down and done. I did do I did have an experience where I kissed someone in my car and I was parked.

No need to go to a drive in movie. That's all I want to do while we're driving. Can we be in the back giggling? All I want is in my car. Yeah. Yeah, that would be great. But so I was parked and my f but my foot was on the Breakfast. We kiss and I guess it I should have had it in neutral. Need to have it in park. Uh or park, yeah. So then my foot came off the brake and my cause neutral you will you will just roll. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So it was a jump scare for sure. It was my foot came off the

Break and then the car went almost into the car in front of me. Oh my god, that was a little bit more. Did you still get the kids? Got the kiss. Okay. Can I tell you a fun make out story? Yes. Girl. Girl Settle in and let me tell you what was so fun. Okay. So there was this girl You know, we had this thing going for months and but at the very beginning of it I told her, I was like, you know what I've always wanted to do is just get a taxi And just drive around town and make out.

Love this. And she was like, let's do it. Okay. So we hail a cab and we are macking down. Oh my gosh. That's a risk. You don't want a show for the driver. Because they do what? Uh duh, I don't care. I know, but I'm just telling you, they do they are watching in the Well how do you know? 'Cause you makes out like that. Oh my god. What have a day? Fortune used to be a cab driver. Trust me, they watch. And they love it, okay?

Um no, I just thought it it was one of the you know, when you first are meeting and dating or hooking up with somebody, it's like let's do this okay, so Get a cab. We're driving around Los Angeles. And that's what I told the guy. I was like, just anywhere. And he was like, Okay. You you wanna just drive where drive us around? Yeah, just drive us around. Okay. So then we pull up and um uh to his mother's house. Yeah. Um we pull up to some store. She wanted to go in and get something.

She's an actress, okay? Okay. When she gets out of the car, he goes, Can I ask you something? And I said, Sure, and he said That woman looks very familiar. Who is she? And I said, I have no idea. After we've been driving around for maybe an hour. That's the end of the story. You do? Uhhuh. I don't want to say it. Well, you can say it, but bleep it out. Yeah. I knew it. How did you know? Smart. I don't know who that is even.

It's so funny to have the awkward Just you and the taxi driver in the car though as well, like after she gets out and you've just been Yeah. But also you don't yeah, you don't want them being like I recognize Any either of you know what I mean? Like that's where you want to be anonymous. Well that's why it was fun to just be like, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who she is. I don't remember. Here's another fun thing. Yeah. Really? This is a

This is a really fun thing that I could see you enjoying. Okay. I asked this girl out who I we had already been seeing each other, but on a particular date. Okay. to a hotel room I'm in Only during the day to order room service and watch a movie. That's good. Yeah. And so did you have to pay for the night or you found like a Yeah and you said we'll just go there for the day and hang out? Go get a hotel room, watch a movie and order food root room service.

It was so funny. That's fun. That's really fun. I've had the the room for the just the I've rented it for the night, but we just used it during the day and used the spa, like the steam room. Yeah. And that stuff. And then use it for the room for other things. For what was I? Other things. Such as And then left. Uhhuh. Didn't stay the night. Have you ever uh in a hotel room? Yeah. I realized this a couple of nights ago when I was in Chicago.

I see these all the time in the hotel room. Never used one. Yeah. Have you ever used a shower cap? I sure have not. Well now I know something I really wanna see, which is all of us in shower caps. Like our like bonnets. Like little bonnets. I forgot about our bonnets. Someone gave us those in Toronto. I don't think I've used one except when you're getting your hair dyed, sometimes they put like a plastic bag. Who the hell?

Like they are in every ho ha uh hotel room. There must be enough people that don't want to get their hair wet that this is still in demand. Well, I'm gonna start asking around because Yeah, do let's ask our listeners. Do any of you wear wear shower caps? Please let us know in our social media comments. This is the last hotel thing I'll say. Okay, give it to us. Do you notice that hair dryers

are mysteriously hard to find. In It's like where is it? Is it in the drawer? Is it in the This better be your new hour. Where it's called Where is the observational comedy special. Where is it? Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. Not checking that I've got some paint and a canvas when I'm headed to the wilderness.

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So I'm gonna book a couple nights stay on Airbnb. That sounds like a plan, May. What area are you looking? Well, I'm gonna be in Florida, which I'm very excited about, and I'd love to find somewhere with a hot tub or a sauna that I can relax in. Maybe some nice nature nearby, like a big park or something. I love finding a home on Airbnb because I know I can get the place all to myself and I can read tons of reviews and make sure it's a great place. Airbnb also has guest favorites badges.

that show me the highest rated and most loved homes. And I've just never gone wrong booking one of those. You know I swam with sharks in Florida. Is that something you would ever try? I hadn't thought about that, but if I'm near the ocean, then who knows? Maybe I will. On the other hand, if I find a really nice place on Airbnb, I may just never want to leave. You're right, there's no kind of standard, it's always under the sink. No. Sometimes it's in a little bag hanging on the door.

Yes. I do like it when hotels have switched from ironing boards and irons to the um st little hand steamers. Not knee You prefer the iron. You like an iron. Really? Steamers. Come on. Wait, what are you steamer? You're a steamer too. And you know Ricky Lindholm? Yeah. She has a really funny bit that I'm like, God, I wish I thought I mean it's so funny. Just that like how long?

ironing board spin around and they can't fix it to where it doesn't go like when you open it. I mean truly, how is that the case? Well the steamers do get dangerous. I um you know, sometimes have dum dumb moments. Not thinking and I have not our fortune. Don't talk about my friend like that. I have been like, Oh, I missed this spot and did the scene where and it Just burnt your cooter. My cooter. Why are you always drying your crumbs? Why are you steaming your cooter? Steamy crumbs.

Not what you're don't get your head out of the gutter. And then I tried to steam it out and just burnt my cooter. Crispy fried cooter. Crispy fried cooter. So those things do get very hot, but I do prefer them to the iron is iron is it's a whole thing. Have you ever ironed your cooter? Uh no. Give it a whirl. That sounds painful. I feel like vagazel used to be the butt of every joke and stand-up and that was the thing. People were putting like gems.

On there and maybe like to iron them on. You know like Swarovski crystals or whatever. No. But it kinda went away. You know what I'm talking about, right, girl? Girl, I don't. Like your name or something, Tig. People put that on their crotch? Yeah. That was a thing at one point. Yeah. I don't know if it's still a thing now. When if I know Tig It's Tig's name down there though. It's small, but it fits on Tig or on us. I don't guess I think it should be. It's like you glue gems to your

Yeah, like it's a So you have no hair there. You like rip the hair out or the have you see one on your I've never seen one in person, have you? No, never? Uh, let's not get crazy here. I'm talking about um Vajazel. Yeah, the vajazel. Yeah, it just used to be Never heard of that. Oh, are we gonna I don't wanna see it? Oh I wasn't showing you a picture of my jazzled cool, just you let me get out my PowerPoint presentation. You need to iron that thing. How can they have uh

Shower caps in every room and then not toothpaste in every room. I hate having to call down. That would be expensive for them to uh check some. Yeah, that's true. But sometimes they'll supply those Tiny, tiny off brand where it just says mint. Um paste. Yeah, mint paste. Yeah. Mint paste. Yeah. All the q tips you could want. I love a q tip. I know you're not supposed to, but I love'em too. Do you? I wanna buy that thing on Amazon that

Gadgets, Massagers, and Pooting

pushes the water in your ear. Don't you want water pushed into your ear? I don't think that's bad, is it? I've I've been the victim of I I have all these gadgets. Like I have bought every gadget. We know your Amazon wish list is I'm not gonna use Amazon anymore. I'm turning a corner. I'm like, this is one thing I can do is boycott. Boycott Amazon as much as possible. Okay. I am boycotting.

I need a synthesizer. Uh no. Fair mascara. Just a little bit of boycotting. And Target and those I'm trying, I'm trying. But um Well, do we have is now the time, Thomas? Should I Oh wait what? Well what what's happening? So we're talking about gadgets. You're talking about this early. You're pregnant. I am with child. Uh no, so um I don't know if you noticed like a different piece of furniture in here that might

Yeah. There. Yeah, this round um footstool. Okay. Yeah, but it's not actually a footstool, guys. What is it? It's one of my new gadgets. This is a gadget? Yo, we didn't know anything about this. Thomas is May is the pri Oh my god. That is hilarious. Of course we want it's like an alien May's asses on camera. But is it is it a part time um st s stool? Part time stool, full time massage or whatever you want. So Tigs Tig's kicking off.

Her shoes. Do I have to take my socks on? On to me. I think you should leave your socks on for hygiene purposes. You think I'm not clean? This pretty much. Ow. Really? Are you serious? Yes. I have it on the strongest. I'll put it on the I'll put it down on the one. Oh wait, no, no, no. Ow! Oh my god, wait. Wait, are you are you wanting this torture? You want me to fix it? Have you tried this, Thomas? Oh my gosh. You don't like that. Oh my god. This is hell. This is hell. Oh my god.

I'm loving it. Wait, is it on the highest thing? No, it's on the lowest thing. I don't know. I'm asking I've got a lot of things. Now it's uh vibrating. It'll go through a cycle of different things. So it's like this is hell. It's it's pretty intense, right? Well yeah, squeezes rolls, heats up. That's the lowest feels like a rodent is nibbling on my page. How did you land on this? Uh you were you were scrolling through your big bear.

No it's May look me in the eye. Where did it come in? No, it actually is Called Chill Chair. It's a comp private company. Chill Chair. It was advertised to me. And I said yeah. Okay. Okay. Always trying to relax. Advertise to you. And you love this. Oh on social media. Yeah. And you love this? I'm well, I'm kind of on the fence. I can't decide if it's Wow, you like a vibration. Yeah. Um

Invisible mascara. Invisible mascara. And then I have like an ab workout machine that I've got this mascara. No, I'm going like this. Doing crunches. So I'm watching T V and I'm like, uh what is your goal? What are we what is this all to maximize my time? Your time of rest. Needs simple vibrations. Yeah. I'll take whatever help I can get. Is it Starting to become comfortable. Yeah, really.

Uh I can see you kind of I can I my feet are relaxed right now. If you had titties, this would be real fun. No. I have dumpster titties and we all know this. But I'd really enjoy this vibration if you had some Tig old biddy. Fortune, are you are you keen to get in there? Why not? Well, it's settled down now. No no no, put your little hooves back on. Well now Tig doesn't want to share. Well,'cause now it's settled down and it just feels good. But now you like it. Okay.

I need to get an ab machine. Well, now I'm just here with one shoe on and one shoe off. I'm not sponsored by the system. But my shoe looks like you have it on, doesn't it? Yeah, it sure does. Yeah. Well, I guess I'll just sit here like this, with one shoe on, one shoe off. Don't mind me. Do you Jenks you both said fine by me at the Oh. I still do that. Near daily. So I was looking into the lyrics of that song like to see if I could memorize them and it's actually

kind of problematic. And then and I it's all about like how he wants to date Asian women. And well there's all these all these weird things in it. And then my f I was saying that to my friend. I was like, Can you believe that innocent song actually if you slow it down

And she's like, Well the band's called Bare Naked Ladies. Like what do you expect? And I was like, Oh yeah. Hmm That's a good point. Yeah. They just seem right under our noses. They just seem fun because they sing uh If I had It's been Okay, this is what I'm talking Oh it's back to the abusive side. I gotta stop. Stop. Stop. All right. Oh boy. Alice and Janney broke my ribs. And I Mae Martin broke my toes. I'm getting ready for whatever this ride is.

Is it gonna fit my big feet? Yeah. Of course. One size fits. What size are you? Big. Like what? Yeah, I got pretty big feet. Big, medium, and large. Uh I mean small. Seven men. Oh, I'm uh nine and a half minutes. Whoa. That's right, mate. Okay. I'm just a pitted room lady. Is it har is it hurting? It's tight. Oh, she smashes I told you smashes your feet. I told you. No no, I wanna go through the pain.

I wanna go through the cycle. Girl. Did I not tell you? We need to have a slumber party. Oh my gosh. Girl. Oh my gosh. It just smashes them. the the front part quite a lot in the beginning. Do you remember when I yelled, This is hell? Uhhuh. Does that make sense? Hell that does. Okay. No one likes to do that. And then we have size ten men. But now it's Calming down and told you. There's some comfort here. Like would you ever have this on set or something and you're

In my spacesuit? Your spaces, yeah. I think you mine looks pretty spacey. Maybe you have to why am I jiggling more than you were jiggling? Is that titties? Isn't that the best word? Tits and titties, I love it. And cooter. Milkers. Because there's there's moments of this that are

Very relaxing. And then it'll surprise you with the sharp pain. And then it be it's like a bad relationship. Yeah. That's what I was talking about. With the bad boys. Like you said, this should be called the bad boy. The bad boy. 'Cause he he's real nice to you and takes you out on a date and then he doesn't come home one night. And you're like, When it's good, it's good. It sounded like I pooted

Pootin? You know that like well I've never heard pootin. You've never heard poot? No, I've heard tootin. Well I g it's a poot because it's that it's that like Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that you're the only person alive that has made that sound.

That's a boot. That's a poot. I've I've probably still said this, but I I dated this woman who would In the morning I always noticed that she was like sh lying on me and then she her hands would kinda go behind her and then and then sometimes I'd hear like She's taking her butt cheeks apart. She was in the morning. What are we every morning talking about She didn't want to make a fart sound or wake me up? But she wanted you to talk about it on a podcast in a few years. She was sneakily just

Pulling her own buttons in your cheese apart. That's a poop. Yeah. That's a poop. That's a poop. I'd never even thought of that. I can't believe she was laying on you. And spread her bread. But she exactly fortune knew right away when she is. Well, how else would you reach your hands back there? But what I said to her was like I reach my hands I told you Oh it's that's the bad boys. The bad boys in your little your He's yelling at me right now.

I told her I was I would be kinda more into it if she'd just do the fart and get the comedy done. We all talked about it. Yeah, we talked about it. Did you say pardon me but did you just spread your cheeks? Did she really have the courage to bring that up? But it is a courageous thing you did, Meg. Really? I no. Um I don't know if courage is the word I would use. I said I'd be more into it if you were confident enough to just

And so that's what started happening after I said that then every morning Oh she let it rip I would feel her body tense and I'd start laughing right away. That was the start of the day whistle is what she was doing. And she always woke and she always woke up on top of you.

She would lie always sleep the whole night on my chest like that. Yeah. The whole night. I know why. It was actually the best sleeps. Really? I would that I would get hot. But isn't that weird that I was kinda turned on by the fact that she was confident enough to just fart on me? I don't have a fart fetish.

Sounds like you do. I don't know. I have news. You do. You don't not have one. How about that? It's I I have a fetish for people who are confident enough to use a a fart as a punchline. Well, then I go You know I like you a lot. I told you about my friend's mother who would make eye contact. Oh yeah. Iconic. And she would just be like Are you going to stay for dinner?

Excuse me. Oh my god. I don't want that. But she wasn't doing it as a joke. She just couldn't control it. She was like a a drill sergeant slash uh uh running or what is it? Like a linebacker? Yeah. You know? I think uh off my feet. You want us to stop but I liked it. Thanks. Yeah. I d I appreciate this experience. I feel like I'm on Shark Tank. Thomas help me Now you wanna try it? And then and then we should get to our question. As much as I would love to talk about tuting

Thomas, help. Oh my gosh. When is our was this on the list at any point? No. But we can mark it off. Um When is our Slumber party. Oh my gosh. Say the word. Doesn't it feel like we're at one now? I mean, wait, are you doing it that with your legs or is it doing No, it's doing that for me. Oh my gosh. Well Does it not hurt? It's doing the squeezing thing. Oh, but you're a tough guy, I guess.

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Jesus and Queer Identity

Hey Hansom Pod, it's Brandy Carlyle. Hi, Brandy So I have a question for you because I've been hearing a lot about this lately and I've been really wondering how this lands on queer people. How do you feel when you hear the word Jesus? What does it make you feel like when you hear that name? Do you feel like Um triggered or curious, inspired, concerned, distrustful. How does the word Jesus make you feel in these times that we're living through?

Look at Brandy all dressed up. Do you think this was right after the Super Bowl? No. Like she ran off stage with a tie on. Yeah. Go uh fill my handsome questions. She looks very handsome. She looks very handsome. Brandy knows how to rock a suit. Brandy knows how to rock it. Brandy does rock it indeed. She's super talented. Mm-hmm. I feel like I've had a different exp as like Canadian, very atheist family, like

I I've had a different experience than growing up in a smaller town in America. It must have more weight for you. But I feel lucky that I I like Jesus. I I I and I was taught about religion like that like that they were all different sides of the same coin with really nice stories and

I got really into Jesus as a guy, but so it doesn't have that I I don't feel triggered like'cause it hasn't been used against me directly or I haven't had to like debate it with people. Like I've just sort of avoided all that. Do you guys have more weight? Well,'cause do you guys uh does Canada have the like Born again? Well, y the the heart yeah, like the religious thing that we have Yeah, but not to the same degree, I think. Yeah, like our

Yeah. I think less so. There's definitely the religious sex of it. Yes. You know what I was gonna say? Um it this is so such a minor little moment in her question, but I It's something that I hadn't put my finger on until this moment hearing her say it when she said the times that we're living through

feels very different than the times we're living in. Oh, you're right. Yeah. And I and I just wonder if that was a conscious choice. Uh because I hear people say these times we're living through And it's just I was like, wow, that's so like I hear I hear people say that. And yeah, it feels very'cause l times that you're living in feels more positive and um Oh. That's what I

I almost felt the opposite. Like living through is like we're gonna get out. Yeah, whereas living in it's in it. Interesting. 'Cause you know'cause you changed my mind just then when you suggested.'Cause right if you go through something you're getting to the other side of it. But I know what you mean that it sounds almost like endure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I know that wasn't the main point of it, but it was still an interesting like oh got me thinking. I was raised Catholic.

But I was not raised in a house where God and Jesus were really mentioned. Uh, we went to c to college. Didn't do that either. Um went to church until Like through elementary school. Yeah. And then it was kind of like the jig is up. Nobody my brother and I were like We're not into this and yeah, there wasn't like a Bible in our house, I don't think. And I never saw one. I think it depending on how you learn about him, like he Jesus as a figure is so

rebellious. He was so critical of religious leaders who who were hypocritical. Like he like everything about him is great. Supportive women, like you know, friends with sex workers and stuff. Like he was such a badass. So I'm I'm lucky I was taught about him as a figure in the same way I l you'd learn like stories about Siddhartha or something.

You were learning about him as a chill guy. Yeah. But then other a lot of people take it, you know, to that more h you know, hell and brimstone type of situation with like punishment of not living uh On the right sh righteous path, you know. Yeah, that feels like a more recent um shifts. Yeah, that I'm learning about or meeting people or realizing I know people that have now flipped over into that world where I It doesn't feel like a part of my upbringing. Um irony of Jesus being used As they're

mm means of like discrimination and control and f you know when that's not what he stood for. Of course.

Personal Faith and Community

Forever. I know. Um, because yeah, it is a form of control. Yeah. I mean I think it depends on people's relationship with the church or Jesus as to how they feel about their interpretation. Yeah. So like You know, if you were to meet someone who came from, like, say, like a Mormon background or or whatever, like when they're say they're gay, like, you know, they're not welcomed in that church anymore and they you know, could potential and I'm just using that as a a broad example but

you know, not accepted by family members anymore, then your relationship to Jesus might be a negative one because totally then suddenly you feel like you're not uh accepted anymore. I'm I mean, uh being from the south, like uh in the small town that I grew up in, you know, there's a church e everywhere. It's such a part of the culture.

Such a part of like the social aspect of the South. Like you like go to church functions, people at church uh check on you. Like there's really great things about it where it's like a a fabric of society there where it's uh Uh I can see like there's community. Yeah, many positive things like that. My mom still is uh very much involved in the the United Methodist Church. Um so in that regard I I am always I'm like

I won't even say to Mom, Are you going to church? Like because it's such a positive thing for her. Mm-hmm. Um, and I'll go with her, you know, a couple of times a year. But I as I got older, my I mean, I as someone who grew up going to church every Sunday, as I got older I decided that wasn't for me anymore. Yeah. Um, but I've kept my relationship uh, to be um still open to the concept of

Jesus and God and and I I have not like shunned that. I still see value in that and like a belief system and a morality. type of way. I think I I treat it in the the like treat others as you want to be treated. The basics of of it. The like, you know, try to be a good person.

Um those things. It seems so universal that we try to answer these questions and are reaching for something and then we've yeah These are meant to be like moral signposts that help us navigate things in instead of like literal doc you know Yeah and doctrine and definitely Yeah not like organized to benefit. I mean in given in light of everything, I'm it I'm really feeling like Well, that's not even but I feel insane.

Well when it's used as a weapon to be like, You're okay and you're not that that's where it becomes an an issue where because then it's being used as like Well, we have decided we're okay, but you're not. Well who decided that and why? Like you know. I just am like, where do we go from here? When we've always kind of known like the people who are most outspokenly

anti gay and fire and brimstone. You read the headlines, then they're arrested six months later for sex crimes, right? Like this I mean that does not everyone but that does happen. Yeah. And then now it's like Like I just watched this amazing movie about sex work and stuff and I was thinking after like we've been the the for centuries it's like this is perversion and things and then now we're seeing like the true perversion at the top. Like the the

I mean, it's like too much to fathom. So it's like now that we the hypocrisy is like laid out, where do we go from here? What's gonna happen? Is anything gonna happen? Is anyone gonna get arrested? Are we talking about the Epstein files? Yeah. It's all I think about. It's all I talk about. I'm j I like we can't even'cause it's just too fucking insane. Yeah, we have to save that for our Epstein file episode.

Accepting Christian Examples

I remember when when I was um living in Austin, I mean So long ago. Like thirty five years ago. Like so long ago. You were barely a l live. It's insane. But um my friend and I live next door to this very Christian family. Mm-hmm. And they worked at the church. They had three kids. And um we became really close with them and they were I would say

the first I was I was in my early twenties, but they were aside from my family members that are religious and and different people here or there. Yeah. These were Christians that led with Christianity. Yeah. Like like I leave. Jesus' actual teachings of like Yeah, and they talk about it and they it it wasn't just like something they did quietly. But I loved them so much.

and they knew that we were gay and um and their kids would come over like two years old to like seven years old and just like knock on our door and want to come hang out in our kitchen while we were home just relaxing and whatever and I just I never got any weird vibe from them other uh not even other than. I just never got any weird vibe. Um and I was

I was just I just loved them and I loved what they represented and I was good with them talking about Jesus. Um because there was just nothing seemingly off. Um and then uh uh No, there's no Okay, okay. I was just thinking I also My first girlfriend's parents, maybe I I don't know if I've shared this with you, but I'm very close with them. Yeah, yeah. And you went to see the Pope and then Yeah, and I brought a rosary home for them. And they're like parents.

To me in a way. Yeah. And they're they're Catholic and they very much lead with that. But Unbelievable examples of loving, open. Yeah. They have different views. But I mean, Stephanie and I They live in small town Ohio, Farmville. And we will go in the summertime and I'll bring my wife and children out and stay with them in their house in their little little home. Mm-hmm. I love'em so

So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean that yeah. I'm I'm definitely not saying all Christian people are. No, I didn't take it that way at all. I'm just saying like I those In your experience. In my experience the people that like really are leading with it and talking about it. And it's not like all the time talking about it, but it it's It's it's kind of like me being vegan. It's like Yeah. Um but I just really appreciate their um relationship with God or Jesus and their church and they're actually

Out in the world doing good. That's great. And really hands on in the community and I Yeah, I mean they're not a m uh a monolith. Yeah like

Religion, Politics, and Hope

it religious people. It's just Yeah. I think when I hear Jesus, my point is like I'm open. Yeah. Who's behind that? Yeah, I'm not tri I I'm I'm I'm a big Jesus fan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not triggered by that at all. I think it also boils down to how you treat each other as far as like uh I know so many religious people and I I have great respect for, you know, people that I've met where religion is their entire life.

if they're accepting of me and they're n kind to me, I give them that same respect in return of like, Good great. I I you know, it's amazing that you have these beliefs and you're this That's a big part of your life. Doesn't bother me at all. It's when someone it's when someone's like, You're going to hell

Even if they're like based on what? The the w it's a weird barrier to intimacy. Even if they're like, Hey, I I love ya, you know, I have deep empathy for you. Hope God saves your soul. But I you know, I believe you're going to hell, but that like I then that's hard. How do you Pretty good That's where they need to keep that to themselves. Yeah, that that's it's like if you think I'm going to hell, just pipe down and let's have a nice dinner. Yeah. Uh I mean you like we were talking about the um

the about magic and intention and stuff and I I definitely think prayer could be powerful and I'm like, yeah, I'm loving it. It's like Meg Stalter is is Christian and is being outspoken, I think she organized a prayer group of peop people with the like I I'm into that kind of thing. Where yeah, where it's actually living Jesus is Teachings and things. And I mean when I go into you know, I'd I'd poke fun with my mom when I go to church like on Christmas Eve with her. I'm like, Oh, I hope I'm

you know, n allowed in here or whatever. It's I've always been welcomed in there in this particular shirt. And you know, there's something really beautiful about these some of these old churches when I'm in Europe. I love walking into these church churches. You can feel this, you know, energy, this it's very hopeful. I think that's what I look towards. uh religion the r the positive part of the religion and and believing in a God or Jesus or whoever is is

feeling hopeful. I like I'm I'm talking to someone, uh, who be it the whatever your beliefs, the universe, God of like you know, asking for help or you know, looking over for people. Like when people are like, I'm praying for your mom, that means something to me, you know. But it's crazy like oh sorry. No. The way she's said it, like in these times we're living through it's like it

America specifically, it seems like, has just been manipulated for nefarious purposes. So you do have like quite like we're lucky we don't encounter the hate every day in our lives and stuff, but it is like a increasingly super powerful religious right that is really scary. I definitely don't like when it gets uh intermingled with uh p like government, you know. I don't I do very much

firmly believe in the separation of church and state. Yeah, totally. I d I don't like when those two co commingle. Yeah, I I um Uh I was gonna say w like when I go to Mississippi and my family they're all churchgoers, but their vibe is um you know, like I uh Stephanie and I got married in Mississippi in the small town at my cousin's house and um and their whole vibe down there is like

All right. We're gonna get up. We're gonna go to church. And then after that, let's go uh let's go out to the yacht club and let's have and then, you know, and it it's just like Uh I get up, go run five miles, go to church, do this and that, and then, you know um ask God for a a beautiful day. And and that's kind of just the vibe I feel like that I grew up in. That's nice. Um, that doesn't feel and even my other cousin

He was a part of the Catholic Church and he mar he officiated our wedding and he got kicked out of the church knowing he likely would, but he said it was worth it. Oh wow th they got it wrong. Yeah. You know? So anyway. Wow. Well I'd be I'd be curious to hear Brandy's answer. I know she has a a background with church. She's talked about it in her book. And then let's hear it. I'm curious because when I wrote my book I wrote a lot about being raised.

you know, within the faith and religious and coming up in church and all of the um problems that I had being out of the closet, uh and you know, issues with hell trauma and acceptance and um And then I also wrote about the parts of the faith that really still work for me and about the way I personally feel about Jesus. And I was totally overwhelmed by the amount of LGBTQ people that came to me and said they want to talk about this more. And um

that there are still parts of this of the Christian faith and their childhood religion that are with them whether they like it or not, um, in good ways and in horrible ways. And um

I think it's a really interesting conversation to have, especially at this point in life where, you know, we're safe and we aren't subject to the church anymore in the way that maybe we were when we were young. But um that there are parts of the teachings of Jesus that I think still live in so many queer people in in such a complicated way that um I'm fascinated by the conversation and and uh thank you for your answer.

Final Thoughts and Show Announcements

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I think it just comes down to wanting to be accepted, right? I mean just wanting to feel like you're And safe. And safe, yeah. And wanting to be safe.'Cause that's the thing, it's like with all those abortion bans and stuff, it's like, Are we s safe? I don't know. So

I don't know. We gotta be vigilant about that.'Cause like you're saying the separation of church and state is so crucial. The line is getting more and more blind. Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. For sure. I feel like I wanna sit and have a glass of wine with the five. I'm very curious, yeah. I'm curious uh how Brandy and her wife, you know, they have their little family unit. Yeah. And and they've got their kids. Yeah. And um what what part does religion play right within yeah the dynamic of their family?

Yeah. Well. I guess we'll never know. We'll never know. So uh we'll never know. You know Jesus had siblings? I didn't know that. But imagine that's for another siblings, step siblings in the meantime uh what a podcast. What a podcast. But massages, May Cheeks. I leave in two days, I guess. Go check out May on this bus to You need to pack. Yes, we'll see you in San Diego soon. Also, if you haven't seen Come See Me in the Good Light.

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