¶ Intro / Opening
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¶ Welcome and Vision Woes
Hello and welcome to the Handsome Podcast, the most handsome podcast this side of the Mississippi. I am one of your hosts, Tig Notaro. And I am one of your other ones, Mae Martin. And I'm another one, Fortune Feimster. And it is three of the most handsome hosts of the Handsome Podcast. Woo-hoo!
Yeah, baby. Am I driving at home a little too hard? Am I trying desperately to convince people that we're handsome? I don't need to convince anyone. Okay. It's all about how handsome you feel in your heart. I feel handsome, but my eyesight is terrible and I'm not sure of how I feel inside is matching on the outside because I can't see myself on the, I think I need to get.
a different prescription for my eyeballs. Is it getting worse, you think? I know for a fact. I know for a fact. Damn. I was walking to meet... Max and Finn and Stephanie in a hot tub. And I was like, oh, I need to get my glasses. Right. Or else you're going to have to crawl along and feel the edge. I mean, it just was a blur. Them sitting in the hot pit. It was a blur. Oh, my God. Anyway. Yeah. I got to get that sorted before I get back to Star Trek. Yeah. Because when I left Star Trek, I could.
see my surroundings and I can't anymore oh no it might give you a kind of mysterious air because you'll be slightly squinting in a kind of handsome way kind of looking a little dazed Well, you haven't seen me on Star Trek, I guess, because I am mysterious and handsome already. Oh, shit. I love that. Yeah. Fortune loves it. I love it.
¶ Fortune's Breakfast Burrito & Cheese Break
Absolutely loves it. How are you, Fortune? I'm doing good. I'm having a nice day. I got myself a coffee this morning and a breakfast burrito. What's in your burrito? It was egg and cheese and some hash browns and a little guac and a little sour cream. Although I think I'm over melted cheese right now. I wanted to not have the cheese on there.
Over melted cheese. Yeah, I don't easy talk. It's because I had I had some pizza a couple weeks ago and it was my friends ordered double cheese and it was too much. Yeah. Now I'm. Having a break from cheese moment. I bet there are people outraged listening right now going, there is no such thing as too much cheese. You think that, but everyone in the group agreed it was too much. Okay.
Because I led the charge at first. I'm like, this is a lot of cheese. I don't know about this. And they were like, you're crazy. And then they agreed. They're like, oh, it's too much cheese. In general, I'm not a big even vegan cheese person every now and then on a burger. But there are some really fancy vegan cheeses that if they're not melted. you know, in that kind of situation and you're just using as a dip with a cracker or something. They're so good. They're so good.
And I know there's also people yelling right now, there's no such thing as good vegan cheese. You are wrong. You are wrong. Listen, I love cheese. Y'all know how I feel about a charcuterie board. It's just the melted cheese right now I'm taking a break from. Okay. Okay, I'll cancel the fondue I was going to send to your house. I'm a big, big cheese guy.
Yeah. I mean, normally I'm fine with it, but I just, yeah, I don't know. I found myself a bench, which y'all know I love. And I took my coffee and my burrito to the park bench and sat there and ate. enjoyed life and it was lovely. Did you have some special thoughts and feelings or just like, this is good. Hold the cheese. I had both where I was just eating a burrito and then other times where I was being reflective and thinking about life.
¶ The Joy of Park Benches
all the things and going down, you know, different paths in my head. It was a combo. Yeah. It'd probably be a fun thing to have people, you know. Send in their little bench moments. Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah. Handsome bench moments. Yeah. Send us your handsome bench moments. If you're having fun, pleasant thoughts or. deep intense thoughts or even ginger thoughts you know any anything will take any thoughts but I have to say when I had my little bench moment it was such a fun like
Oh, my God. And I certainly have sat on my share of benches, but it was a whole new experience since your bench moment. I have to admit. I think I missed the whole bench conversation and I'm like, I'm on board. I think benches are good. I think benches are great, but I'm not, I don't. I think I forget, like, did we talk about benches a lot? We did at some point. I don't remember. I just, I don't, I don't remember if it was part of a question and I answered. Somehow I brought up.
that I really love sitting on benches. Right, right, right. I'll go around, especially during the times I've been going through where it's just been a bit heavier. I've been driving to like... parks or or if i'm on the road i'll walk around town and if i see a bench i really enjoy sitting on it and it just brings out a lot of like introspective thoughts or i'm just enjoying the day and the sunshine um so yeah i was just talking about loving a bench and then
then my mom and i've been doing some videos when i go visit her on the bench yes yeah we're sharing her updates it's also so fun to just people watch on a bench yeah i do that too that is a grand old time you know what my favorite i keep getting on my algorithm or whatever one of my favorite types of videos that i see is picture this person maybe they're eating a sandwich they're on their lunch break they go sit on a bench
next to a statue you know how sometimes they have a statue on a bench guess what it's not a statue it's a person in disguise and then the statue moves and the person i love that Oh, like, are you talking about those people like when you're in the French Quarter in New Orleans or something? Yeah. Yeah. And they just stand very still. And I do love a good prank like that.
I think I would notice that that person, that it was not a statue. I feel like I would know the difference. Well, you'd smell the sweat and the paint as they're baking in the sun. I would say you'd smell the pain. Yeah. Why are people doing that? It must be a community that's passionate about it because there are other easier things you could do, you know, to busk or whatever. So it must be a maybe there's a whole.
thing, statue community. Clearly there is. I'm just curious what makes up the person. That is like, I'm going to paint my body this metallic color and then go stand. out and not move for long stretches of time i think they like scaring people maybe they like the maybe there's a little sadism sprinkled in there because that's
Pretty fun to spook people all day. You get the scream and then a big laugh. Why not just hide behind a bush and then jump out? I mean, that's so much quicker. You see somebody coming, hide behind a bush. Boo. Boo. He loves a bush. What? Fortune Marie. I'm just saying. You love a bush. I love a binge. I love a... Blush, a taint. Yeah, your lip taint. Yeah, yeah. I'm quitting this podcast. No. That was what pushed you over the edge? Yes, I've had enough. Don't do it. I'm trying to get this.
conversation going about 10 people which is an important conversation it is and and hopefully those people get big tips when they do this and it makes it all worth it big what tips Okay. All right. I have to keep an eye on you. Just the tip. That would be a good, you know, they put like a little sign on a jar by the tip jar. Just the tip would be good. Yeah, just the tip. Yeah.
¶ Cheese Dreams and Brand Partnerships
Guys, I'm eating a lot of cheese because I'm staying with my parents right now in Toronto and they love a stinky cheese. I feel like you hit 70 and you just want... salty morsels in your fridge just the charcuterie type objects and so I've been eating cheese and then having vivid cheese dreams talking in my sleep like crazy About cheese or cheese is causing weird dreams? It's causing it. That's a real proven scientific fact. Okay. A may fact. I don't know what I would call it.
You don't know that cheese causes dreams? No, I just know that it's not good for your skin and it's actually pretty bad for you. It's good for your subconscious. It torments you all night. I don't love the stinky, stinky cheese. You don't like stinky? Not super stinky. I don't want to be smelling it. Oh, really? You know what I used to really be into when I was not vegan was a blue cheeseburger. Yes. I like blue cheese dressing with my Hooters chicken wings.
I know you do, girl. Someone had sent me a Hooters gift card for my birthday, and they're all closed in Southern California or in L.A. You're going to have to hunt one down. I'll have to go on the road and use this gift card. Oh my goodness. When you know you talk about something way too much, when people start sending you gift cards for it. Yeah.
Tell me about it. The stuff that I was getting on tour from handsome listeners that I'm like, well, I guess I'm obsessed with weird objects and crystals and marbles. And vibrators. Hello? Wait. And vibrators? You're not giving one of those? Fortune, why do you keep doing this?
Wonderful conversation. May posted a vibrator pic once and it broke the internet. Wait, what did you do? Am I crazy? Yes, yes you are. The only brand partnership I've ever done was for... a sex toy and i and i posted it but no i don't get given vibrators on the road and how did you break the internet doing it got a lot of calm a lot of engagement oh okay fortunately keeps tabs on
the level of engagement. Have I ever posted anything that's broken the internet? Oh yeah, you broke the internet with your zombie picture in the flight suit. But I didn't post that. I didn't post that. Doesn't matter. Yes, it does. I'm trying to figure out if I have ever broken the internet with anything. Well, we know you are not going to post anything. So someone has to post it about you to break it.
¶ Social Media Posting Habits
Me? Yeah. I just posted something several days ago. That's right. I forgot. But you hadn't been posting and now you're posting again. Well. I don't know that I'm on an upswing of posting. I do have days though, where I'm like, man, I am going to get on this whole posting thing. And I'm just going to like, this is the new me. This is the new me. And then Insta stories constantly. Get ready to dig. I have to say when I was in Toronto, I got way more.
involved in Instagram than I had ever been. Like I had never posted a story until I lived in Toronto for Star Trek this last year. That's loneliness, though. That's like, yeah, that's your family. Your family's not there. You're just. Yeah. And then as soon as I got home, I was like. Now I know how to post stories and I get the whole stories thing, but I'm not like doing what I was doing before. Right. But I do, I really do have those moments where I'm like, man, I'm going to like.
I'm going to really get this going. You've got to do a sex toy photo. That's the thing. Yeah, do that. Yeah, I'll have to do that. Can you do a TikTok dance? I'm not on TikTok. Okay. What, May? I regret it. I was going to say, do you guys use vibrators? I love how high your voice went. Because I don't, I gotta say, I don't, I don't really, I mean, I did the brand partnership for sure, but like on my own, I'm not really using, I'm not really using.
that might incorporate that's surprising i thought you would be using one of those what constantly hold on one second i just realized you do this sometimes when you talk i think when You talk about something uncomfortable. You put your finger on your nose. Me? Yeah, you do that. Oh, my God. Yeah, you do that. That exact thing. That exact thing.
Okay. You know what I noticed I do as well is because, you know, I have a phobia of being like shiny or oily. So I'm constantly, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see me like dabbing my face and that's what I'm doing. And then guess what? Not that we're beauty influencers, but do you know what that is? Yeah, it's an oil thing. I already said it, Fortune.
Quit trying to get points. By the way, neither of us have the right word for it. Is it or is it not an oil thing? It's an oil thing. Well, I said it first, Fortune. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. We are also beauty influencers. This is a... Oh, my God. We should be beauty influencers that fight. And that don't know the words for anything. Let go of my oil thing.
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Is there a proper word for it? Yes, actually, it's called a blotting paper. And since I was about 12 years old, my mom has been pushing these on me, like saying. You got to get into blotting paper because my mom's very oil conscious. I always wanted to be very matte. A matte creature. So then today I finally, she was like, do you want some blotting papers for the road as I headed out? And I said, yeah. And then look at me go. I'm loving it. Oh my gosh. What is this partnership?
No, this is just seems good for you. If you're worried about oil, that's a perfect marriage right there. Absolutely. And I think I just was rebelling against my mom for years. Something about. Her saying the words blotting paper annoyed me. I don't know. I'm fine, mom. I don't need blotting paper. It's not 1960 or whatever. And then I don't know what that meant. But then I would have just looked at my mother and said, say again. and that would have put an end to the conversation I'm sorry
Say that to me one more time. Say it to me one more time. What do you think? I don't know what we're singing. What is that? And what's the person asking to hear again? Say it to me one more time. Is that a Lionel Richie song? No. What do they want the person to say? Does something sexy like do you use vibrators? Well, isn't it do that to me one more time? In the song, do that to me one more time. Do it to me one more time. We're singing different songs. Captain and Tennille.
Do that to me one more time. Oh, yeah, that's the song. Once is never enough. Don't think I haven't noticed that. That's all Tig right there, y'all. Do that to me one more time Once is never enough Oh, wow. I didn't know I was capable of such. We didn't know you were capable of that. Wow. What a treat. Can we loop that a few times on this episode, please? I have noticed that neither of you answered the question. Interesting. Um, I am without those. I will tell you. I do sometimes. Yes.
Fortune Marie! Listen, I do sometimes as well, so that's two against one, but it's just not my go-to usually. Sounds like it's fortunes 24-7. Good lord, take a break. You guys, I'm blushing. I don't want you to electrocute yourself. I need a blotting pad. You need an oil thing. Well, my concern, and we'll move off this topic for sure. No, we won't. No, please stay on this as long as possible. I want to know Fortune's schedule.
but there's no schedule it's just you know when the mood takes yeah but my concern is that like buzz buzz buzz go on go i worry that i would get a um then i wouldn't be able to not use it if you know what i'm saying if you catch my drift like you get it you then you get addicted like if you use it too much yeah it's not hard to wait are you saying if you use it too much
Yeah, like I've dated a lot of people. Fortune, are you worried? Yes, you are. Yeah, I'm not. I am not worried. I'm sorry. Are you saying they've hit it too many times? Go on, Mae. I'm sorry, Tig. This is rudely interrupting. Tig, you are on one today. What's going on? Did you have...
¶ Tennis, Guns, and Lollygagging
A bunch of decaf coffees or what? You know what? I had a little bit of regular coffee today, I will be honest. And I did play doubles tennis with my family. Whoa. We can tell you're hopped up on life. Wait, who were the teams?
Well, we switched. Everybody had a chance to be on everybody's team. So we played for a little over an hour. And Max and Finn are just learning how to play tennis. And Stephanie and I are just... getting back into the swing of things with tennis, but man, I cannot recommend, like if you have two kids, that is a really good game to play a really good sport. Pressure to let them win, like not to go too hard on them? No. No. You're like, I pounce on them and beat them. No, Finn is so competitive.
It's like, it's a whole thing. It is like. So is Stephanie. And so is Stephanie. Okay. And then you haven't played with me. I'm a college tennis player. Those are truly getting bigger. Your guns. This is insane. I mean, come on, Mae. Why are you not? Everybody calm down. Look, I have, look at my guns. I can't beat Mae. Mae's got the guns. Come on. Everybody's bringing the guns. I've got pretty good guns. Guys, I just felt, I just had a flash. Wait, hold on, hold on.
oh here we go my left ones i don't think yeah not much happened in there it's this one but did you see mine yeah you got some great guns i just had a flash of how embarrassing it is how many times we've shown each other our guns on this podcast i just was like three of us being like no guys no look at that Pretty little ladies and ladies just showing the guns. We're proud of them. This freaking treading water is hard. Hell yeah. How many times a week are you treading now? Twice?
Um, three or four when I'm home, like home, home. But if I'm out, I'm traveling a lot like twice. Fortune, that's insane. That's incredible. I will say the last couple of weeks I have been enjoying lollygagging in the pool. Is that what you call using your vibrator? thank you that's a leaf blower yeah that is a leaf blower which i also use i was gonna say sounds like you'll take anything Oh, my Lord. I see you so differently, Fortune. But go on. Well, you know.
¶ Fortune's Portugal Trip & Rick Steves
It's those kinds of times. Um, I'm actually, cause I'm tomorrow. I go to Portugal for a week with my family and there's a pool. So I'm like, maybe there's a pool in Portugal. There's one pool in Portugal. And I'll see you there. One pool in Portugal. Won't you join me in the air? This is going to be a jam. One pool in Portugal. Just stop and stare. How many times do I have to rhyme with these words? God, I really painted myself in a corner.
okay come on tell us about the pool in portugal okay i mean i'm scared don't give up don't give up tell us about the pool buddy this song's gonna tell us about your little swimming pool in portugal i'm the one over here getting slammed for a vibrator Oh, God, what a good show. Nothing's going to beat that song. I was just going to say. What song? In Portugal.
Oh, my God. May tell us about your little pool. Where all your dreams come true. I was simply going to say it might be a fun activity with my family to tread in the morning. Oh, yes. Yeah, that would be great. So it would be the four of you? Yeah, and my brother's wife. We came here from Canada. Thomas just wrote Tig can you move off the mic oh you're coming in too hot Tig Tig's coming in hot yeah I had a little caffeine this morning and you know
I had no clue. Yeah. This is why I steer clear of it. Oh, here goes fortune with the de puffer. This is a wild episode so far. Wait a minute. Everything's making sense about the Puffer. This is the Puffer for my face. It feels so good, y'all. Oh, it's getting loud. Sorry. That's all right, girl. Are you excited for your trip with your family? I am excited. Yeah. It's like we haven't.
That's the answer of somebody excited. I am, yes, excited. Excited to go to one pool in Portugal with my family. I love Portugal. It's gorgeous. Oh, you've been? Yeah, many times. Really? because i lived in spain um i'm going to like a little island in the azores and it's the first time that we've all been on a plane together in like 20 years like it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy and um i'm curious like they're
My parents don't really use smartphones and they navigate the world in a different way. What do they use? They unfold a map and stuff? They use a book from Rick Steves. Who's Rick Steves? Yeah, who's that? Guys. Two against one. Tell us who it is. Rick Steves is only the premier tour person that people buy his books. to get his recommendations, to find out what cute little boutique hotels he loves, what cities he enjoys, where to go eat.
How dare you put some respect on Rick Steve's name. Let me look up and make sure that is his name. he was popular back in the day i don't yep american travel writer rick steves i mean who doesn't want to listen to this guy I'm happy to listen to him. I just, you know, I'm just learning about him, but I don't need to be yelled at about Rick Steves. He's on a bike in front of the Eiffel Tower with a scarf. Rick Steves. 70 years old.
Well, please send some pictures. If there's anyone I'm listening to, it's him. Oh, Fortune's still talking about. Sorry. Rich D's. May, do you have plans? You know what you're doing? One girl in Portugal. I'll be in the one pool. It's like, well, when you're a kid and you're flying with your parents, they're taking care of you.
Do you want a snack? You want your crayons? No, they weren't, but I'm the one that's like, I'm like, Mom, what can I get you? Sit here. Let me go get your stuff. See, we got dumped off at the airport with little pins on our shirt that said American Airlines. And then anyway, but go on. Your parents made sure you had things to eat. Well, that'll I was just saying what fortune saying that that'll be made this time. I'll be like trying to make sure they're hydrated and, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we're going to go to Hot Springs. We're going to go. We're going to eat fish. We're going to see if my dad's still allergic to cod. We'll find out. Oh, do we want to test that? Do we want to test that? Are you going to see if you're still allergic to coconut? I know that I am because of that woman that I told you. The lotion, yeah. And my hand got all red and funny feeling because that woman put lotion on me. Well, speaking of lotion. Yeah.
¶ The Meet and Greet Dilemma
In a crazy twist in life, I just got even, it's so funny that we were talking about this with meet and greets. I just got approached to re... visit meet and greets for my next tour. I think you should do it. I don't know. Tig's not really a meet and greet kind of gal. I don't know. Maybe we should turn it to the...
To the listeners, like, should somebody like me do a meet and greet? Well, they want to meet you, but the... thing is you want to meet them I just don't want people grabbing my booty you know okay well what about if you or your dumpster tits I'll come with you hey off my dumpster tits lady
You'll come with me? I'll come on tour with you and then they can meet me after. I'll do the meet and greets. Mae is good at meet and greets. You do the shows and then I'll do the meet and greets. They can grab my booty. Oh, look at that. That's perfect. That is nice. You can set it so that it's only a certain number. Yeah, that's what I did. So you're not spending like a crazy amount of time on it. How long do your meet and greets last? Me? Anybody.
I probably met about I put a cap on like 30 people. And so it would it would take a good hour, hour and a half because I was chatting. You can't you can't stop. That's a long time. I think I kept mine at 40. And it probably is about 45 minutes. Whoa, it's in and out. So people are getting a minute. Oh, they get a big hug though.
And that's nice. Yeah. And they get pictures hugging me. And then the pictures together like this. I sign their little. You pull the guns out. They get a. What is this called? a bra credential they get a vip vibrator oh credential and i sign it okay yeah i mean we're just efficient I have a pretty amazing tour manager that keeps it. See, I'm having, I'm talking about astrology. I'm talking, I'm getting deep with everybody. So it does take a while. Tigs will last 20 minutes. For 50 people.
Keep it moving. They just walked past me and I go, hi, nice to meet you. Keep it moving. No, I, uh, yeah, it's, it's just an interesting thing to, um, to consider and especially right after it came up after that Eureka Springs. and the discussion we had. But, you know, I'll think about it. I'll see what our listeners say. Should I do a meet and greet? Maybe we could do a poll on social media. Yeah. Should I do a meet and greet as long as nobody touches my.
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Why were you speeding through a scenery? I didn't know what the speed limit was. But shouldn't you be driving slower if you're looking at things? Well, I was getting to the scenic route. I was on route to it. And it was kind of scary because they... Pulled me over and they took my passport and left for like 45 minutes with it. Whoa, that was scary. What are you like when you get pulled over? Is that the only time you've been pulled over?
No, I've gotten pulled over a couple of times in my life for speeding. Do you get nervous? Are you an aggressive driver, Fortune? No, it's... Um, no, it's just in my life. I've maybe been pulled over four times. I don't think that's crazy. No, that's not too bad. Let's say one, two, three, five times, five times. Wow, the fact that you can count. I'm good at counting. I don't get pulled over much because Stephanie does most of the driving.
Right. And so she gets pulled over. And we've been together for 12 years. So that's really cut into my amount of. I love driving.
¶ Bowen Yang's Diner Order Question
I'll be the one that drives y'all around and drives us crazy. Wait, we haven't got our question yet. Oh, we should get to it. Let's do it. I'm excited about this one. I mean, I always am. Let's. Be clear. Let's be clear. Let's be queer and let's be clear. Yeah.
Today's question asker is an actor, comedian, and podcast host who's written for and performed on SNL since 2018. He hosts the hit podcast Les Culturistas, which is airing a Culture Awards special on Bravo and Peacock on August 5th. I'm pumped about that. He started movies like Fire Island and Wicked. Bowen Yang is asking today's question. Love him. Hi, Tig. Hi, May. My question is, what is your diner order? And what does that say about you? What? Okay, let's unpack this. Oh my gosh.
Wait, that's the first time that's ever happened. That is the first time. Let me say, I am so glad I wasn't the one left out. Because I would be spinning out. I'm fine, you guys. You don't have to pretend to be fine. Leave me in my leaf blower alone. You don't have to pretend to be fine. No, you go home and blow up your leaf blower and self-soothe.
I'm sure he went to, in his head, he probably said it. Yeah, for sure. And you know what? I'll switch it out. You can pretend like he said your name and he didn't say mine. Okay, that will help. And so the question was, I still love him though. He's so funny. I know. And his podcast, Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers is so funny. I don't know if you guys have listened, but so funny. And they've had everyone on it.
They're hilarious. And they have these great bits that they pull from it for social media. This I don't think so honey moment where for a whole minute. you rant about something and it's one of my favorite things to watch. It is really good. That's great. Wait, the question was, what's your diner order? Oh, okay. I forgot what the question was because I was a little distracted.
¶ Diner Orders: Vegan Burgers & Soup Hacks
Well, you were you were freaking out. Let's be honest. We were all freaking out. I mean, you know, I have to say I had a really classic diner order the other day, which I don't. I don't typically order this, but it was so good. And actually, when we were talking about cheese earlier and vegan cheese, I had a full-on Beyond Meat.
burger with vegan cheese and onion rings. Oh, onion rings. I love an onion ring. I love onion rings. I love them, but also sometimes when the whole onion comes out of the... You know what I mean? Get a bigger problem, Mae. Get a bigger problem. I thought you were going to say sometimes it's too crispy. I love a really crispy onion ring. Oh, me too. Me too. My God, dip in ketchup? Get out of my way.
Yeah. Yeah. So I just had that order days ago. Okay. That's pretty, that is classic. And do you have it with fries or salad or what? Onion rings, Mae. Oh my God. I'm so sorry. But it is, there are some places that let you do half and half, half fries, half onion rings. And that is a real treat. What a generous restaurant.
that lets you do half onion rings. For real. More people should. Why wouldn't they? You know what I love that's half and half? That Stephanie still is like, what are you doing? I do half soups. Do you do those? Oh, no. What do you mean? Where you have the bowl, you have them put half of one flavor of soup and then you have the other, you have them put the other half in and you do, you have a 50-50 bowl of soup.
Give us two of your favorites together. Well, I mean, anything like lentil soup and tomato soup. Wow. Anything, anything, anything, anything. Is that a thing or you just invented it? No, it's a thing. And it's something you can do. I'm trying to imagine like a chicken noodle with a tomato or something. That's crazy. Well, you don't always have to throw a tomato in there. Everything has to be part tomato, part something else. That's a strong flavor.
tomato soup chicken soup and lentil would be pretty good yeah like i would have to go broth to broth or cream to cream but i don't know if i'd want to do like broth to cream you say this until you have it and it's so delicious
Yeah, I guess I'll have to try it at a Whole Foods one of these days. I want to be in charge of it. I don't want someone doing it for me. Why wouldn't you be in charge of it? Nobody's going to like... barrel over there at whole foods but excuse me excuse me no i'm saying if you like went to a restaurant i was like hey can you give me half this then they're in charge of it i would
do this experiment at like a whole foods right where you're doing the amounts and the ratios and the ladling and yeah did you guys know that um I was going to say I'll have what she's having or something, but then I couldn't think of how to say it. Is that When Harry Met Sally? Yeah, that's my only diner reference. I think that diners originated as train carriages and they were called lunch cars.
May fact. May fact. You don't seem confident about this May fact, though. No. No, it's really coming from the deep recesses of my mind. May false. May false. May false. My diner order would be...
¶ Diner Orders: Breakfast and Dessert Preferences
A chicken schnitzel, mashed potatoes, gravy, and some steamed broccoli or something. But like steamed so much that it's like mush almost. Or peas. I love peas. I love peas. But also I just a classic breakfast, crispy bacon, rye toast, fried eggs and and a black coffee, drip coffee that they're refilling.
And then you pretend that you're in like the 50s and you're like a beat poet and that you're kind of hungover and you're like, the $2.99 breakfast, please. You know, and you got your little notebook. Yeah. And do you roll your jeans up, your blue jeans up? Yes, you do. And you put your pack of cigarettes in there, your sleeve, your t-shirt.
I did eat at a diner with Mae when we had our live show in Austin. Thanks for inviting me. And Mae was just ordering like a king. I'll have one more of this and one more of that. Add this. Was I? Wow, cool. Fancy Mae over here. Why wasn't I invited?
i think i think we're flying out yeah my flight got delayed but i had a hash brown i remember that much and it was tasty i love a hash brown i remember there was a diner uh when i lived in denver that had like a fried fish sandwich like um you know kind of like a mcdonald's style low rent where it's like in a square and you know, tartar sauce and, you know, I remember really liking that. It's just so soothing, the atmosphere, because it's...
Like you're out at a restaurant, but there's no errors and graces. It's like casual home cooking. The waiters are going to be friendly. It's a nice place to be. I could sit in a diner all day. Yeah, I like a diner too. If I'm going to a diner in the breakfast app, I'm not really a breakfast for dinner kind of gal. I know some people love that. If I'm eating breakfast, I prefer in the breakfast hours. And I'm usually doing a hash brown, extra crispy. I'm doing like this.
uh one scrambled egg i don't like it when they give me like three because i know i'm not going to eat it and i don't like to be wasteful okay i like your style And then I like either like one waffle or one pancake. Something sweet and salty. Right. Yeah. Have you been to Millie's on, on sunset? No, I don't know what that is. Oh, that's a great.
diner breakfast place but they do these waffles that are so fluffy and and you can do like a or you can do a single pancake oh yeah gluten-free blueberry pancake if you want Do you remember when it was popular to have fat-free stuff? Oh, yeah. That was big when I was a kid. It was so funny. Stephanie and I were just talking about that the other day, just people that were on fat-free diets where they'd stock up on fat-free cookies and fat-free crackers and fat-free cheese.
And waffles and pancakes. But now we know that. are healthy and good right like now we don't do fat free we do like gluten free or like low sodium world any of that stuff is like if you're getting serious about your health you're not gonna get like 10 boxes of fat-free cookies. But that was the fad. I talk about it in stand-up right now. I had to go to a nutrition class and it was all about counting fat grams. When did you do that?
When I was 12, my mom signed me up for a nutrition class. What did you learn? Nothing. Like nothing stuck with you? no because it's probably all outdated now too it was yeah it was like it was counting backgrounds it was like and so they were just making foods i joke that we i went from eating chips ahoy cookies to snack wells they just made
other cookies that said fat free. So I was like, Oh, these I can eat these because they're fat free. And that meant nothing. Right. That's what I used to think. I think I had a bit about that too with like, Twinkie lights is what they were called. And they were just like half the size of normal Twinkies. So I was like, okay, now I can have two, you know, it's just like, do you like Twinkies?
I did as a kid. I haven't had them in decades. They weren't really big in Canada, but we had Joe Louie's, which are kind of the equivalent in that it's like Thomas is nodding. It's like, how would you describe it? Joe Louie's? It's like a chocolate cake, like the consistency of kind of one of those like Little Debbie type cakes. And it has a vanilla.
inside and it's dipped in chocolate but it comes like individually wrapped and it's it it never goes out of date like it i don't know like it yeah the last 20 years style i actually have a story which is I'm going to volunteer because my mom, the last thing she ate. We'll edit all this out. We'll edit this out. The last thing she ate before she gave birth to me was a Joe Louis.
So my name was almost Joe Louis Ouellette because I thought we should name me Joe Louis. Joe Louis. That explains. Do not look like a Joe Louis. But it explains a lot. Like that's such a joyful snack. And the fact that, and they would have been in like a vending machine in the hospital or something probably. And you have a joyful Joe Louis energy. Yeah.
Wait, who was the Joe Louis? I can morph your face into Joe Louis, no problem. Who was Joe Louis? Chocolate. Did Joe Louis work in a button factory? Oh, it's a combination of two of them. My name is Joe. Here we go. Oh, guys, interesting. It was a, well, you be the judge if it's interesting. It does not refer to the boxer Joe Louie. It's a combination of the names of two of the Vashon sons. That's the company that made the snacks, Joseph and Louie.
And then it said the popular misconception arises because the cake resembles a chocolate version of the Mae West, which was named after the actress Mae West. Anyway, you like that? I love that. Loved it. Let's hear it again. Let's hear it one more time. I loved it. Every second of it. I would have bet my life that it was named after the boxer Joe Louisa.
I've never even heard of Joe Louis. I sound out on all of this. That's fair. How dare you? If I'm going to a diner at night. Yeah. Oh, back to this. I want a good like either a cheeseburger or a club sandwich. Oh, yes. Oh, my gosh. A BLT. Oh. Something about that sourdough bread toasted at these diners. It's so good. Yeah. And a vegan bacon in there.
And if they could give me half fries, half onion rings, I'd be real pumped. And 50-50 soup. I either want crinkle cut fries or skinny fries. Crinkle cut fries for me. Skinny. Okay. I don't want the big fat fries. I don't want, I don't want, um, curly fries and I don't want, um, I don't like Cajun flavor on the fries. Me neither. I don't like, get that. Stop it. Just stop it.
Stop it. I could do a little Cajun Flav. No. I don't want the orange ones. Yeah, when the dust all accumulates in one bit and then you have one that's way too flavorful. And if I'm feeling really naughty. Tell us, girl. Milkshake. Or a banana split. I mean, come on. You're already at a diner. Might as well get a banana split. Go for it. Yeah. This makes me want to go to a diner. I haven't had a banana split in like 25 years and I don't know why I'm counting. With real bananas though.
Oh, banana milkshake with real bananas, that is good. Wait, what do you mean real bananas? There's not real bananas in bananas? Some people use the powdered as disgusting. You need a real chopped up bananas in this milkshake. I've never heard of banana powder. It's out there. And it tastes like medicine. It's like, yeah, it's no good. It's out there, baby boo. I love when you call me that. That's all I want to call you now. I don't think I look like baby.
boo with my military haircut yes you do i've seen that soft side i've seen that soft side of you baby boo well there's always a soft side under you know tough guy military head Yeah, I've seen G.I. Jane. There's a soft side. I bet you guys have not watched this.
¶ The Queer Ultimatum Reality Show
the queer ultimatum on Netflix. Have any of y'all watched that wrong? You've been watching it. Yeah, of course. I just started the new season. It's pretty interesting. I've seen all of it.
No, you haven't. You want me to tell you what it is? Sure. Well, it's these lesbian couples. I don't know. There's maybe like... seven six of them i don't know and they give their partner and also one person has given their partner an ultimatum we either get married or we break up this yeah and then they go on it
on television as you do when you've been given an ultimatum. Yeah. And you meet these other couples that have also given ultimatums. Wait, I'm sorry. Are you saying ultimatum or old tomato? I almost spat. Old tomatoes. Old tomatoes. No, the premise. Please. Can it be the old tomato queer edition? The old tomato queer edition. I would be on the old tomato show. Yeah. Like if I had to just grow tomatoes.
One member of the couple has given the other one an old tomato. That's the older lesbian. Yeah, I'll host the queer old tomato, and then I'll give the winner an old tomato. Everyone has to live on a farm. Go on. So then you mingle with all the other couples because what's going to happen is you are going to pick someone from another couple. to live with for three weeks and pretend to be married to them. Complete stranger. And then you do that for three weeks. You pretend?
yeah and they go well you might you might hook up with them but you don't you might not you don't have to these are people who are like about to maybe get married and then they go live for three weeks so they all fall in love with their new partner they do
oftentimes and yeah like half of them do yeah half of them hate each other and some of them have sex yeah they do technically you know what per the rules they're broken up but then the other but then the partner finds out and flips out so i don't Wait, why do they go on this show? I don't even understand why you would introduce this. Because they want to be famous? Yeah, I don't think anyone's doing it because it's going to help their relationship. That is...
What is that on? I'm kind of curious. It's on Netflix. Why don't they have straight old tomatoes? They do. The cliche and his wife, Vanessa, host it. This is the gay, the lesbian version. Hosted by, let's be honest, a random straight woman who just looks real out of place. But, you know, she does a good job. So a straight woman hosts the queer Old Tomato? Yeah. And on season one, there was a good moment where they were like.
Someone went, are you queer? To the host, one of the contestants. And she was like, no, I'm not. She's so sweet, though. She is. You should watch season one, Tig. It's juicy. How many seasons are there? Dos, my friend. And is it still being made or is it like something from the past? No, it's this just came out and the second season. It's pretty fascinating, don't you think, May? To see how these couples act. Yes, it's gripping because...
You think, wow, I wonder if I was filmed, if my patterns would be that obvious. They are so easily psychoanalyzable. You know what I mean? You just see their communication breakdown and all the... I would be lying if I said that I didn't ask my agent to ask if I could host it. I tried so hard. I could see you hosting that. I tried so hard. They forget their partners in like two seconds, Tig. It's wild. And they've been with their partners how long? Anywhere from four years to ten years. Yeah.
And sometimes they end up, sometimes, you know what, early on in the process, they say, actually, you know what, this is fucked. I want to be with my person. And they leave the process or whatever. And often at the end of the process, they'll say, no, I want to leave with who I came with. I'd say like 50% of the time they're going, I have never felt this way about this new person is amazing.
¶ Reality TV and Mental Health
Listen, I strongly feel people should not go on reality TV. Because a new, like it's impossible for, let's take the 10 year couple. It is impossible to compete with some new exciting thing that like you're doing for three weeks where you're the best versions of each other. You're telling each other all this amazing things. And then you got your old ball and chain.
You know, being a real bummer over there. It's like, of course, it's going to mess with your mind. Of course. And you're in this intense environment, which you're bonding over. It's all adrenalized and sexy and like.
And now here's my question. It started, did the straight old tomato start or did the queer one start? The straight started first. Oh, okay. So the straight one started, I watched it and I thought... this is so toxic all these like heteronormative kind of this obsession with marriage and and i thought so straight then they did the queer one it was 10 times as toxic it was like it's pretty toxic it is wow it's like more head fucky more
play like i don't know okay i'm gonna watch this and you definitely should watch it it's so crazy too because like there's this one girl who's like um found out that her partner slept with the pretend wife or whatever and she's like I can't believe you would do this and like this is so crazy you don't even love me and but she was also sleeping with her pretend wife and I'm like
what are you doing yeah this is gonna come out on tv yeah i'm like they're gonna they're gonna see what you did so why is everyone pretending how do you go home for the holidays after you do this you know what i mean like after this is on reality tv how do you head home for the holidays and so
you know what i mean it's gonna be a little awkward i am always like i think they have a lot of them break up like even if they stay together like that at the end of the show they basically have to decide are you staying with your person Or you get going off with a new one. But I mean, go home for the holidays and see your extended family. You know what I mean? I know. After you've created such a circus. I know. I don't think they're thinking about that stuff, you know?
I'd be thinking about the holidays. You're not going to, you also are not going to go on a reality show giving your wife an ultimatum. Oh my God. Oh my God. I always feel like they, I'm like, do they? I don't think they because it's not like these are seasoned reality stars going on these shows. These are young people like from small towns off. And I'm like, do they give these people mental health support afterwards? Because I don't think they know what they're getting into. And then.
I worry about not to bring it down, but I do worry. I worry about their brains, you know, and then I didn't bring it down. Queer Old Tomato brought it down. I can't wait to watch. I need a 60-year-old, 50 to 60-year-old version of Old Tomato. I have not been so excited to watch something since the Titanic came out. I think you should start with season one. Of course. Why wouldn't I? And it is so fascinating because it's such a stud.
of like human behavior and like you do think like god what would i do in this situation Should we hear Bowen's question or answer? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I needed to tell y'all about that. I'm so glad you did. For me, it's scrambled eggs plus... bacon hash browns or home fries what have you potato side some rye toast i think what that says about me is that i'm a little salty but i've got different textures i contain multitudes there's something for everyone
Or conversely, I love, if it's an option, a French onion soup, which means that I'm, again, salty. But I'm cozy. I like cozy stuff. And I... I have a few key ingredients in my life that kind of take center stage, whatever that means. Okay. Thanks guys. You're welcome. Sorry, Bowen. That was some random person that just chimed in. You know what I also have to say I love at a diner is like, of course.
It's a vegan butter, but like buttered toast with jam. I really love jam. How about when you're a kid and you... take you take one of those little packets of jam and you put it in your pocket and you leave and you take it on the road you know that and you feel like you really got one over on everyone i got some jam in my pocket can i say ready to rock
Bowen was so funny on overcompensating that Amazon show, but Bowen and Matt Rogers play a couple in it and they're, they're best friends in real life. And they are so funny as this couple who are on Grindr and, and anyway.
¶ Farewell, Upcoming Shows & Final Thoughts
Go ahead and watch it. It's great. All right. Well, that was all over the place. That was one of our more random bopping from the most bizarre things. But what a treat. Well, that's to be here with you guys. That's what our questions are supposed to do is just get us a thinking and chatting and it works. And if you enjoyed this episode, send it to a friend. I know I say that, but stop right now.
Stop what you're doing right now. That's right. Stop. What if they're doing a surgery? Well, stop. Stop doing the surgery. Send this episode to a friend. Rate. Review the podcast and also subscribe and then subscribe to our YouTube channel. Help us build the community so we can keep this precious pod. A float. Anyone have anything coming up? Well, Fortune and I are going to be in Montreal. I'm there. I'm doing a show the 25th and the 26th in Montreal at Just for Laughs. If there's still tickets.
Please come. And other than that, I'm just taking a vacation. So check out my music on Spotify. My album's called I'm a TV. Yeah. I'm going to go do Pride, a Pride show in Reykjavik. iceland come to that show on august 8th uh and then my tours um continuing in september san antonio Houston, Norfolk, Virginia, Richmond, Virginia, D.C., Boston, Portland, Maine, Mobile, New Orleans, Atlanta, all these places. Wonderful. And I...
Will be on August 17th, West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center in West Hampton Beach, New York. And then I will be at Provincetown Town Hall in... P-Town on August 23rd. And then the Beau Ravage Resort and Casino in Biloxi, Mississippi on September 27th. I'm also... working out new material at Largo Dynasty Typewriter and Comedy Bar bouncing between LA and Toronto. So come check me out. Tignotaro.com for all the information.
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