Slash and cast. Welcome back, fiends, to Handle with Scare, presented by the Slash and Cast Podcast Network. Our show discusses horror movies and the phobias they emphasize. I'm your host, Emily Drunk, and throughout April, we'll be shining a spotlight on the fiends, their phobias, and the films that induce their fears. Be sure to join us on Tuesday and Thursday nights at 7.30 p.m. Pacific time for our weekly watch parties, which we host over on our community discord.
Tuesday selections are always dedicated towards the movies that will be reviewing on the podcast, while Thursday selections will focus on 2025 releases. You can join us and the rest of the fiends over on our Discord at bit.ly forward slash handle with scare. with me here tonight as always is my co-host grindhouse obby and zombie uh it's it's it's been an interesting day uh you know we had the uh five night at freddy's 2 uh teaser drop earlier today
What else has happened? Oh, I watched the third, well, still watching. I'm almost done. The third Popeye slasher movie, Shiver Me Timbers. And I will just say this. It is 73 minutes of a runtime, and literally... Popeye is not introduced, and I'm going to use Popeye loosely here. Because this is by far the loosest adaptation for Popeye specifically. But nothing happens with Popeye until about 25 minutes.
into the 73-minute runtime. Now, outside of that, you might be wondering... well gt is a really any reason to watch this movie and you know they they set up the hot chick having her sexy dance number in front of the campfire and then of course she gets plowed in the tent Do they show anything? No. And it fucking pissed me off. They do the typical, okay, our killer is outside. We see the silhouettes of the couple fucking.
and we hear the moans and then we cut to inside kill scene obviously with the uh quote penetration being mimicked uh while popeye kills the guy And this whole time, the chick doesn't even have her top off either. So it's just like, what are we doing here? So needless to say, out of the three Popeye slashers that we've had, Popeye's revenge. Shiver Me Timbers. What was the other one? Oh, Popeye the Slayer Man. Popeye the Slayer Man. Yeah, probably the worst title out of the three.
But contaminated spinach is definitely more of a Popeye story than a fucking meteor shower in California that. just randomly turns a sailor mutant. And that is our Popeye. So they're sad. That sounds a little bit like Toxic Avenger, to be perfectly honest, just a happenstance. Well, I mean, you know, as we were discussing pre-show...
Mickey Mouse has still got Popeye Beat. Mickey Mouse has got four movies. So it's not surprising that, well, I mean, most of them are... basically garbage right i mean i think uh i think scream boat is the one that probably has the most promise out of those and i know that you and i'll both be seeing that this weekend
But I think we would also be remiss if we didn't stop for a second and pour one out for our homie Val Kilner that unfortunately passed away after a bunch of health woes and whatever else. For me, one of the first semi big ones from my generation, you know, a person that I saw in a lot of movies growing up that is like.
well a fuck he was 65 and well b fuck he's dead like it's It's one of those things that I've honestly kind of contemplated over the day, and it sucks on a level that I don't quite have the words of the understanding for, but it also tells me that I'm getting old, and that's kind of sad, too. So, Val Kilmer, rest in peace. I will always be your Huckleberry. Always.
looking forward i mean like i said we do kind of have a big weekend we have scream boat we have hell of a summer i think hell of a summer is going to be Probably the stream from last year, assuming that it... uh gets on board with the bees and you know oddly enough it's like i've always kind of depended on low budget horror to bring me the bees and it's like low budget horror doesn't seem like it's doing that now so it's like
Okay, and if high-budget horror is not doing that either, it's like, do we have to completely reassess what the bees are? I mean, we might have to. It falls to full moon. Well, Full Moon's always going to deliver. I mean, that's just... I mean, Full Moon is... You know, it's not quite, you know, you porn. But I mean, kind of. So thank you, Full Moon. Keep doing your thing. When we're looking for something that we don't got to think about and we just want to watch and enjoy, that's what we need.
In terms of good movies, I mean, we had Opus come out this week, and I don't think you've seen Opus yet. Is that correct? Not yet. I grabbed it. I will probably watch it tomorrow. That was one of the ones I've really enjoyed for the year. It didn't quite hit the level of companion, but it was really, really entertaining. One of the ones I want to sit down and force the wife to watch because I think she would get it. And I mean, in the end it's got John Malkovich. So, I mean,
It's either going to be great or it's going to suck. That's how his movies work. This one leans more towards it than the great. So, yeah, going to be a fun weekend. And I'm wife-free the weekend, so we're going to party. And by party, I mean get chores done and probably go to bed early. I'm going to party one way or the other. Yeah, so the only other newer release that I watched here since episode 200, since we did that on Sunday night, I did watch Gothic Slayers.
the other day. Really? Okay. Was not impressed. It is definitely more... In regards to horror comedies, definitely much heavier on the comedy. And a lot of it felt pretty forced to me in that regard. Now, I will say there were some elements of it that I did enjoy. One of the main themes with Gothic Slayers is it's kind of like an arcade cap.
So there are a lot of moments that kind of like mirror what we would get from like a Scott Pilgrim type movie. So there's a lot of like arcade elements that are tied into the movie. So it kind of switches to like the eight bit. sort of graphic ordeal from time to time which i thought was pretty cool but in regards to
Just an overall viewing experience. I wasn't like blown away by it. I didn't absolutely hate it, but it's not one that I could honestly say like, oh man, definitely go check this one out. Because it is pretty paint-by-the-numbers in regards to that cult-type horror setup. But, you know. It's been a very middle in 2025 so far, outside of, you know, a few things here and there that have been released in the theaters.
But yeah, it's like with the VOD releases, I'm still waiting for like that one like. wow factor and we just quite haven't gotten to it yet uh amidst you know the slow like drip of vod releases that we have been getting because it's still you know we're in april now and You know, you and I are maybe only pulling two to six movies a week, if that. You say that, the rest of the world just goes, what? Well, okay, so I think you're right. I think we're still...
I mean, last year, 2024, we started out calling it the year of meh, right? And I honestly think we're a little bit above last year. There's been a couple of movies, I think, that were... You know, really pretty good. Presence is one of the movies that was really pretty good. Companion was really pretty good. Horror comedy-wise, I think the standout this year has to be the parenting so far. I mean, that movie was... that movie was fantastic it was i mean
the right amount of horror, the right amount of laughter, like a good balance, uh, lots of honestly, a list actors. If you, if you break it right down, um, But yeah, in terms of that home run, I mean, if you think about last year between the coffee table and the King Tide, I mean, the coffee table, we had our first home run pretty early.
The King Tide was probably mid-year. But, I mean, you know, if you're getting into June and you've got two home runs already, you're doing okay. And, you know, we're into April and there's nothing that is like, you know, is setting the bar. There's... things that are fluctuating. I did see... So I have to say this. So my wife and I tried to go see Death of a Unicorn at my lovely AMC theater. And when we got there and I went into my app, my ticket was gone. And so I
Went up to the counter and said, hey, you know, something happened. My tickets aren't here. Oh, well, the theater's broken. So we canceled all the showings. And I'm like. In my head, I'm like, how is the theater broken? Like, don't you have a guy whose job it is to make sure that doesn't happen? So... We pivoted and went and saw the movie Ash. And much like I said in our Discord, we had our first walkout of the year where both my wife and I were just like,
This is awful. And it was awful in the fact that a bunch of characters whose names I barely knew, that I had no idea why they were there. And it was people that were out in space supposedly doing scientific things. And let me describe to you one of the more scientific things that I saw in this movie. These people go out sort of, they're walking the landscape looking for something.
And they find a very large mechanical hole in the ground. And this is supposed to be evidence of somebody terraforming the planet. Okay, I'm cool with all that. You know what the scientific experiment that they performed to prove this out was? A guy picked up a big fucking rocket and threw it in the hole. I am not kidding. And then the hole retaliated. The hole retaliated. No, this was a big hole. This was like a six foot diameter hole.
Not something either one of you or I could fill even on our best day. But he threw a rock in there and then the rock or the hole retaliated. And it was just like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. So from right there, it was like, yep. And then we kind of looked at each other and said, should we leave? And we both said, yep. And then...
The best part of it is neither one of us was mad about it. Because usually if I have to leave the theater, I'm pretty pissed off about it. The whole drive home, we were just laughing about how fucking bad the movie was. How... You have these characters. You don't know why they're there. You don't know what they're doing. I mean, there's a basic premise, Earth is dying. Oh, that's never happened in a movie. Oh, shocker. But it's like...
There's nothing to cling on to. There's no story. There's no line. There's no one character driven thing. And it was just like. it's on par to be, I gave it a one and I thought that was generous, but I suppose the reality is I can't give it a good score because I fucking walked out. But much like last year, 10 minutes after I walked out, everything good happened.
So we'll see, but holy shit. So yeah, I mean, support your local movies and theaters, but maybe not with the movie Ash, because Jesus Christ. Anyway. Hell yeah. So as I was saying earlier, This month is dedicated towards our fiends and their phobias. So we're kicking off with Emily's phobia, which is the gora phobia. which is an anxiety disorder characterized by intense fear and avoidance of situations where escape may be difficult.
or help is unavailable. So tonight on episode 201, we have Triangle, which came out in 2009, where we have five friends set in sail, and our yacht is overturned by a strange and sudden storm. A mysterious ship arrives to rescue them, and what happens next cannot be explained. All right, Grimes, so this was the first time watch for you, yeah?
It was, yeah. So going through it, it's one of those things I think I've seen little bits of it because there was a couple of things in there. I'm like, this feels kind of familiar, but I had never seen the movie. And all things being equal, good Lord, I was missing out.
Because this is a fun film. And as I said pre-show, the one true gripe I have about it, but the reality is I can let it go because it's a movie, is... the why you know there's like there's like like why is this happening and that's it's never explained but at the same time i've watched enough horror in my life to know that um you don't necessarily need to explain that sometimes it just happens
Now, the one thing I did want to point out from our discussions, and then honestly from some discussions from our previous week's wash, is that Jess... I need you to know, and you might want to seek medical advice from this, that I do believe that you suffer from nomophobia. So go ahead and Google what nomophobia is, Jess, and then get back to me and let me know if you suffer from that. I'll take the suspense away. It's a fear of a mobile device running out of batteries. That's what it is.
So I think it's possible. I just needed to fill that in. It felt like a checkbox I had to get through. Anyway, triangle. characters in this movie i mean it's interesting that actually goes out of its way when it first starts to not really give you much about anybody. And it gives you a little bit of character buildup. Kind of later in the movie.
And about who's who and why they're there versus, you know, sort of a kind of a diarrhea of the mouth or a diarrhea of the exposition where we tell you who's who up front. And then even then, some of the characters, it's like They're just there. McKellar.
well yeah poor heather heather never had a fucking chance did she and she never gets to come back in the loop that's the best part it's like hey i got cast as heather what happens to heather she dies in the first 15 minutes and never comes back but isn't there a loop
Well, there is, but not for Heather. Yeah. But overall, watching this, I mean, it's one of those movies where it's... I think on a first time watch, a second time watch, I think when some of the secrets have been spilled, maybe it's not quite as good. But as you're watching it, like trying to figure out what's going on and seeing all these, you know, there's these sneaky people that are doing these things. And then as you get further into it and you're.
You yourself, as a viewer, get stuck in this time loop, but you're also gathering more information. It's one of those things where it really has the opportunity to get nauseatingly repetitive. And it doesn't do that. And that's the impressive part of this movie is that this whole going back and forth back and forth going round and round
To me, it feels like I should just be bored off my ass, like, oh, God, we're doing this again. And it doesn't happen. And it's really impressive that that doesn't happen. With the story and with this loop that they're stuck into, I still say I would like a little bit more of the why. I'm guessing the fact that it's called...
triangle has something to do with it. And that I believe the whole thing is set in Miami, Florida, even though it's not. So I'm guessing it's a Bermuda triangle thing. So that, you know, ultimately... Yeah, you fill that little bit in, okay, sure. There's weird shit that happens in the Bermuda Triangle. So like I said, I can let it go. But overall, I mean, the acting in it is...
Superb. At the same time, the way the story progresses and the action that they keep giving you and these little subtle clues and subtext that they give you, it just makes it a great ride and really fun to watch. Yeah, I absolutely adore time loop stories, whether it's
Heinlein Spice Bootstraps, the classics like Groundhog Day, Run, Low, Low, Run, Edge of Tomorrow. It's really just one of the subgroups that I just can't get enough of. Sure, I know there's some poorly executed variations out there. But, you know, it's really easy to remember the ones that like truly captivate you. Like we've even seen some TV series do some really good episodes like The X-Files.
I had Monday, which is fantastic. Dark Matter also had All the Time in the World, which is another standout episode of that series. And I'm so mad that that one ended up getting canned over on sci-fi. But there is just something so enthralling about the concept of a do-over, you know, a chance to make things right on the second, third. Thousands try, whatever try we're on at this point. Or for those with a darker taste, you know, the opportunity to endlessly relive the worst moment.
So time loop stories never fail to keep me on the edge of my seat, eagerly anticipating what is going to happen next. Triangle for me has always been one of those hidden gems in the world. I think this one's like more science fiction thriller. In regards to that, but it's directed by Christopher Smith. who is a British Australian director. And this movie really takes us on a thrilling ride, and it's got twists, it's got turns.
And it does keep you guessing. Now, I will say, you know, because of the fact that we do have a loop, there are times when... you're going to get a little lost. It's just the way that things pan out. But it's not to the point where, you know, I've seen this movie six, seven times at this point. You know, I've never been nauseated by. trying to map things together but it's also at the point where it's like I think you're giving enough information, but...
If you're a visual learner, you might want to like keep tabs of the timeline timeline and see like, OK, who's actually killing who? What's going on and where on the boat? And that can kind of get a little confusing. Now, that being said. You know, the fact that Emily picked this, knowing that Jess is basically our main actress in the movie, makes it that much better. Uh, cause, you know, just add an extra commentary on top of that, but.
Our story follows Jess, who is played by Melissa Georgianis, who is a single mother who is struggling to care for her autistic son. And when Jess and her friends embark on this boat trip... It quickly turns into a nightmare, and that's when the true horror aspects begin to unfold, as Jess finds herself trapped in a time loop, forced to relive terrifying experiences over and over again.
This whole journey that we go through is like, you know, we follow themes of like sin, punishment, consequences of our actions. But. At its core, Triangle really brings this unique blend of Greek mythology. and modern storytelling. So it does offer a fresh take on time travel and the complexities of human nature.
So if you like time loop movies, I guess you're really looking forward to Until Dawn, right? That's gotta be really high on your list. You mean the one that constantly makes me roll my fucking eyes? Oh yeah. Generic horror 2025. Yeah, that movie looks like shit. So with this one, I mean, even... Again, my question about, it's kind of a why slash how question. And with the loop, I would say, well, okay. So if.
If there's this loop going on and you know that it's going on, like halfway through the movie, I'm like, well, okay, so we have this loop. So why aren't you just going back to when everyone got on the boat? And you just go, hey, you know what? How about let's all go to the bar instead? But the movie actually... it semi addresses that right so it's like it so even there it didn't leave me hanging um with our characters and when you see I guess, too.
There's a point where you have to start figuring out which Jess you're seeing. Whether you're seeing first Jess, second Jess, or third Jess. And I mean, and if you're Emily, I mean, oh, my God, because I'm guessing with Jess, there's at least three, if not more. And but so when you get to that point and it starts. Because there's a point where they show you a Jess that is...
Not anything remotely like the Jess that we see throughout most of the movie. But then you have to think and sort of ask yourself, well... Was that her all along? And maybe she's gone through this and maybe she's, you know. come out the other side as something of a better person. But if Jess number three is who Jess really is.
It's odd to watch a movie and to spend a great deal of it rooting for a character and then get to the end and then decide you have to hate her, you know, just for some of the things that she does. And it's the weirdest thing because it's a giant switcheroo on you in terms of your emotional attachment to a character. And it's like... To go, hey, you can do it. You can do it to get into the end and going, God, you're really a bitch. I mean, that's.
It's not something that we see often. It's very rare. The times that we do see it, it's often not done well. And with this one, it's done superbly. And because it's something that everybody can relate to. It's not, oh, she was out cheating on me or something. I mean, because I think in terms of people and in terms of the relationships that we have, the... you know she was out slutting up on me i mean while i think everybody can probably relate at the same time it's a very basic thing um
As opposed to having a child who's autistic and to see this character that we've rooted for the whole time and to see her sort of other side when it comes to that child. I mean, for me, that was nothing short of heartbreaking. Like, oh my God. Like, and so it's, well, the movie on the surface. You can see this and you can say this movie is very simple. It can be very simple in tone, and it can be very simple in character. It's ultimately not, and it's about a person's path.
how each each of us as individuals we have to walk the path and sometimes it It's harder than we think it's going to be. And sometimes you have to go through the same fucking thing over and over and over again before you actually learn anything.
And with that I think that's probably the one reason probably the main reason that I think this movie is really really good is because it shows you that A, changing as a person is really difficult, but it also says that there is a point where you can come out the other side and you can be better than the previous you. That's not – I don't think it's a common theme in horror. I mean, horror often has redemption stories.
But redemption is not ultimately about changing yourself. It's about making good on a wrong. And this is more trying to make sure the wrong never happened. And it just makes it interesting and that much more fun to watch. But it's a... As simple as it appears on the surface, it's a pretty deep movie. Yeah, it's still a mindfuck movie either way. Oh, absolutely. And I love the fact, too, that they don't wait too long.
like to have that initial reveal either like so like oh shit like this is what we're doing uh which just adds to it that much more But either way, this film is filled with subtle hints and clues that do become more clear upon multiple views, as I mentioned. So it does add a layer of depth to the already gripping plot of this movie.
uh and it's it's interesting because like initially out of the gate we don't really have any like clues really we just know that just uh basically spilled something on her dress i had a change she goes to the pier tommy uh is nowhere to be found But Jess appears completely unfazed in this moment. You know, she's joining with her friend group, which is Greg Sally. Downy, Heather, and Victor for a day out on the water.
But their mood is quickly dampened by this mysterious distress call that they're receiving from a woman. And then we have this... storm hitting them suddenly, causing their sailboat to capsize, and then they drift to a floating ocean liner and decide to board it after spotting someone on the bridge. And, you know, much of their surprise, the boat is deserted.
But it's covered in all of these eerie markings on it. Now, I will say I love the camera work in this movie. Like Christopher Smith does a fantastic job, created a tense and suspenseful atmosphere. uh and a lot of that is through the use of the camera so as our characters are navigating through the halls like They're being depicted as if they are constantly being watched. You know, it's a chilling realization that adds to the overall sense of unease.
And it's the repetitive nature of the corridors captured by the camera that hints at the character's endless journey and the never-ending cycle of their entire ordeal. And it's true, because it's like... the reason why it feels like you know they are being watched is because they actually are by jess no less uh and
Jess is working this, you know, her, the escalating terror that we see, the desperation are just intensified by the camera work. You know, we have like swift zoom shots around the corners and up the stairs. And it really makes it hard at times to keep up with everything that's happening around us.
so we have these constant perspectives that are shifting which create the sense of disorientation so you do kind of have that moment where you know we're blurring the lines between reality And, you know, kind of like more of the nightmare situations too. Well, and it's funny because when I watched this, the first vibe that I got is that, so we have this disaster at sea. Then we find this ship and we all kind of made our, you know, our ghost ship jokes because we'll come on. It was appropriate.
But at the same time, it becomes a weird cross between like a survival sort of thing. And then because the ship is deserted and just kind of appears out of nowhere. It does provide a certain level of sanctuary. It has a little bit of an apocalypse feel to me, too. where we have this great huge setting you know because i mean a cruise ship if you've ever been on a cruise you know how big a goddamn cruise ship is and to think that you could
I mean, let's just be honest here. As much as I don't really like the crowds and people and things like that, a cruise ship, when it's full of people, is an anxiety-driven thing. Having been on that same cruise ship and have it being empty. Oh my God.
That would be scary as shit because it's meant to be a place that's full of people and full of life and whatever else. And I think that's what our characters first see is that like, here's this thing, here's our salvation. And then we get on board and there's nobody here. it actually makes it 10 times scary because we have this giant setting where it's like, What could be around any corner?
And, like, I've been on a cruise and there's a time where it's either early in the morning or late at night and you're just walking down the steps and you're going to get a cup of coffee or to get the, you know, a newspaper. You come out of the corner or somebody there and it scares the shit out of you because it's...
6 30 in the morning and you don't figure anyone else is going to be there and then to imagine this setting but it's empty but not empty and you might be being watched and it's like it's Somehow being in that setting and not having 3,000 other people be around the corner, only having one is that much more intimidating. As the story progresses and as we, you know. We see our mysterious figure over the railing of the ship.
And then we keep seeing our mysterious figure. And from everything you said, this tells me that I need to watch this again because I'm going to pick up more and more as I go. And that probably is just going to keep making it better. But with our mysterious figure and all the things that keep happening, it goes from an apocalypse survivalist movie to being hunted. And when this movie transitions over to being hunted... Oh, the energy just goes to the roof. And...
Although we do see very similar scenes played over and over again. Each time we see it, it's a little bit different, and it's different enough to, A, progress the story, but at the same time, keep it interesting until you're like, Well, I remember what happened last time, so what's going to be different? And that what's going to be different, it hooks you and just keeps you drugging the story.
This type of movie is going to be a little bit harder to discuss primarily because of the use of... the timelines and how they interact with one another um so i'm gonna jump ahead a little bit but i will go back but just like a general overlay of how things unfold basically what ends up happening is our group starts to experience these mysterious deaths on this boat, leading some to suspect Jess and others to fear this mass attacker that is on board.
And then we have this bizarre turn of events where Jess witnesses another capsized boat approaching with the apple gainers of herself and her friends on board. And as more killings and the appearance of doubles unfold, Jess takes matters into her own hands by wearing the assailant's mask. killing her friends, and being thrown off the boat.
You know, she wakes up on the beach, returns home, only to witness another version of herself in a heated argument with Tommy, just like that morning that they went out sailing. And it turns out, you know, Jess ends up eliminating her doppelganger. She takes Tommy. They end up in this fatal car crash that claims both of their lives, and we shift to reveal another Jess, who was just staring in disbelief before, resolutely heading back to the boat and her friends to start the cycle anew.
So there's a lot of jumping back and forth here. And there are times where... isn't the same throughout the course of this movie either when it comes to the loop itself. So, Triangle really does a good job at just being a mindfuck. It's an absolute mindbending tale. uh with you know time loop mechanics it's a lot of symbolism and it does require like you to pay attention to fully grasp what is actually happening so
Really? Triangle begins before the movie even starts when Jess and Tommy have kind of like... There's a moment of frustration with Jess and her son where she ends up berating him. And she's really just lauding for like just to have one day off from caring for Tommy and her wish is granted in. the most unexpected and cruel way imaginable. And then after this heated argument, she takes Tommy on a boat trip with Greg and their friends.
And of course, little do they know, they will never reach that final destination. Because again, you know, there's a car crash at the end of the tunnel. Well, and so that's, I mean, it's one of the things about this movie where you see the same scene, but you take it in much differently when you see it the second time. I think when you see it the second time, it gives you a little bit deeper dive into...
What is, I think, technically third Jess, but where first Jess was trying to get. But you see how... So I have a couple of friends that have autistic children. One of them is a very close friend. So I've spent time. So even as an outsider, like I... I can see and understand the frustration. Like, I get it. Like, why aren't you just doing what the rest of us are doing? Well, it's because autism, okay? That's why. So to see third Jess.
I mean, call a spade a spade here. Be so goddamn mean to her kid for a thing that he has no control over. Like I said, it's that part where I spent this entire movie rooting for somebody and now everything has been turned and I have to hate her.
That being said, I believe it's second jest that rectifies that pretty quickly. But as the loop goes on and you see that... I mean what I took away from this is that this loop has probably been going on for a lot longer than any of us can actually ever know. But with every loop, Jess, whether it's first, second, third, or 47th Jess, is learning every time. It almost feels like our very last Jess, who I think is...
Technically second chess. When she decides to, you know, when things are at the end and she's getting on the boat, it's... I mean, okay. I'm starting to think about it even. I'm confused now. So there's a little bit of a confusion factor. So like I said, I'm going to have to watch this again so I can wrap my heads around it.
I think she has come to a place, and the movie does tell us in two very specific ways, that this is not the third or the fourth or the fifth or even the tenth time this has happened. It's happened... 50 times, probably. But it tells us that both, that Jess is worn down as a human being, but not specifically from... from her child and his maladies. It's more from the understanding that Again, what I took away is that if I don't change something, things are just going to keep being shitty.
Because I honestly think that the thing that she is actually meant to change by the loop is how she treats her son. That's what I think she's meant to change. The friends dying on the ship and whatever else, I think that's all just collateral damage. The thing that she's meant to do is to go back to her life and approach it with a fresh perspective.
It seems like that's what she's trying to do at the end, but she's not quite there. But she thinks that if I just push a little harder, I can get there. I can be the mom that I was meant to be. The very last I'm going to get on the boat is not It's become not a vacation from the kid. It's become, this is my last chance to do right by him. And so that changes the perspective greatly. And as you watch it, it's like...
There's like a head snap of going from rooting for Jess to, for a very small amount of time, hating Jess. to going really putting on your cheerleader costume and getting out your pom-coms and going go jess i mean that's it but it happens so fast it's i mean you get whiplash from it and it's another one of those things about this movie that is
It just it should like you've changed tone on me too many times and too short of time span. But it really does work. And it makes the movie just that much more interesting. And it makes it so memorable and so human that it's like. It's that time that we all wish we could go back and do something differently, whether it was with a family member or a friend or something like that, where we could change what we did.
With her, it turns out that she's got this endless loop of opportunities to get it right, but... It's going to be pain every single time. And after a while, it's pretty brutal to watch just having to go through these same things and to learn every time and to do things a little bit differently every time.
But you also hope that as humans, that's what we all do, you know? So, I mean, metaphorically, this is, it's the human experience. I just hope that, you know, for us to learn as people, nobody has to die. Yeah, so Jess ends up finding herself trapped in the time loop after the fatal car crash. And it's interesting because, like, right before this, like, there are some signs that she sees before the accident. Like, we have her seagull.
There's a marching band with the name of the Ocean Cruiser. This marching band is also, you know, marching to the tune of Anchors Away. All hinting at the horrors that await her at the sea. And, you know, the setting for the time loop in itself is, of course, Greg's boat where, you know, Jess finds herself repeatedly capsized and stranded on this abandoned ocean liner.
And of course, you know, as you mentioned, like the title of the movie can also take out a new meaning as the story unfolds with references to the Muta Triangle and the mysterious dangers that that entails. Greg's boat is also aptly named a triangle. Hitting at the possibility that the ship itself is a hub of mysterious and perilous occurrences. Maybe something even more sinister than that.
But with the ocean liner, Greg's triangle and Jess's home, all of those serve as major locations for time looping in this movie. So in itself, the locations. combined to be a makeshift triangle being created. well and for for any any person who's a fan of any kind of dark imagery or dark lore or whatever else there's a very basic there's a very basic triangle that we all know and love And that's the planchette for a Ouija board.
That is one of the more basic triangles. And you look at any of the dark imagery, there's triangles everywhere, right? And it's the three points. And if you break it down to... Masonic or whatever else, some of our early forefathers, many of whom were engineers. The perfect triangle is the most stable thing that you can create.
We have tables today that have four legs. They only have four legs because they're more aesthetically pleasing. They are not more stable than a triangle. A table with four legs is easier to tip over than a table with three legs. So it's a thing that is. It is glued and melded into our past and into everything that we think about, and especially getting into whether it be wizardry or witchcraft or anything like that. It is a staple of all of that.
Then you factor in, to your point, the Bermuda Triangle. It's funny. My wife and I, a number of years ago, went on a cruise to Bermuda, and it was only about three days in that we were like, Wait a minute. And so we had like a 30-minute conversation like, Is this an actual thing? And it's like, well, there's enough. There's enough information out there and enough stories and whatever else that it's probably a thing, but it's probably a thing because of weather or some damn thing like that.
We both came to the conclusion that if a whole cruise ship disappeared, somebody would ask a question, right? Like, yep, okay, so fuck it, we're here, let's just go. But, so, I mean, it's in the, you know, it's in the zeitgeist of people and of humanity and the stories that we tell. And the subtle little clues in this, like the name of the boat and everything like that.
I mean, you could, if you're an honest film buff, you could call a couple of them a little kitschy. Like, you'd have to spoon feed me that one. Like, I got it. At the same time... With the crews and what's happening with Jess and with her friends, it comes off as... So natural, but then also it's like, well, something happened to the boat. Well, guess what? If you go out in a boat enough times, something happens to the fucking boat. That's just what happens.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that some of this stuff could happen. Now, would it be a giant storm and the boat gets rolled over? Well, you know, somebody should have gone to weather.com and checked the fucking weather before they went out. You know, but I digress. Because it would be a boring story if they went, oh, look, dark clouds, and they went back to port. That'd be pretty boring, right? Well, the Coast Guard didn't know anything about any storm.
Is they didn't radio. Well, exactly. Yeah. Wouldn't it, wouldn't somebody have told us, well, no, that's not the way that life works. Okay. I mean, you can, you go on your phone or whatever it else is. You check, you do some research.
Like the people that woke up one day and say, the people that are late to work because it snowed and said, I didn't know it was supposed to snow. Well, bullshit. Yes, you did. And you just decided it was going to be your excuse. That was just, that's just how it worked. I work with people like that. Oh, yeah. And that's just, every time it snows, oh, yep, so-and-so is going to be late until tomorrow. Yep, so it just happens. But with the people and with this,
Because if you look at this movie, it's got a very minuscule cast, right? I mean, there's next to nobody. um you have maybe eight to nine key players in the movie and most of them if we're honest here are basically cannon fodder to be repeatedly chewed up by the tree shredder through every iteration of the loop. At the same time, they all still sort of play their part in advancing the story, but then also advancing Jess's knowledge of the loop. So...
Maybe they are cannon fodder, but they also become kind of a hinge point of like where it's a spot where she learns to turn a corner and maybe try to make things different the next time. And I'll say it again, it's just another piece that keeps the movie more and more interesting as it goes on. yeah so in this never-ending cycle just finds herself trapped after each death
Much like the Greek myth of Sisyphus, which is also mentioned in the movie. So despite her efforts to save her son, she is repeatedly sent back to the beginning without any... uh recollection of previous loops outside of like what she's learning from the other uh versions essentially uh so our loop commences with jess boarding the triangle only to have fate capsize the boat
and lead them towards the abandoned ocean liner. And as Jess is witnessing the deaths of others on the ocean liner, she realizes that new doppelgangers appear each time someone other than her perishes. The saga restarts. So this means that while two Greggs cannot coexist on the boat simultaneously, multiple versions of Jess can.
And, you know, we have our enigmatic figure on the bridge. You know, we have the mysterious caller, killer in the burlap sack, all representing different iterations of Jess from various time. So when our primary just confronts a burlap sack assailant, as is told, you know, you have to kill them. It's the only way to get home. She comprehends that that only means of breaking a loop is to eliminate everyone on board. And it's with that revelation that Jess assumes the burlap sack.
kills some of her friends, and is ultimately pushed overboard by another version of herself. Yeah, there's that weird moment where she becomes one of the sand people. And it's like, well... And it's a... It's an odd costume choice, given where she is in her setting. It's such a contrast to the rest of the boat and to like, like what a cruise is supposed to be. She becomes this, like, you know, this burlap sack wearing trench coat, donned, just like.
single barrel shotgun killer right who who can apparently make like 100 yard shotgun shots and get you right in the brain that's pretty impressive um must be rifled i guess um it So at first, I'll admit, the first time I saw that thing, it was like, I mean, it's like, okay, where's Obi-Wan Kenobi? And why doesn't he have any comment on this? But then as it goes on, it sort of does... take that character and sort of set them apart for the scenery and make, sort of make you understand that.
The reality of it is that this character, you know, the burlap sack killer doesn't belong here any more than anyone else does. So because the people that come aboard the ship, I mean, they're all dressed in their sailing, you know, their swimwear and whatever else. It's like they actually fit better on the ship than this person does. So it's sort of.
in its own way makes that person an outcast and it's like okay so this is starting to make a little bit of a little bit of sense but then watching this killer and what this killer does over time. And then, and I think, I think we've covered it so we can spoil it. And the eventual revelation that the killer is actually Jess and trying to follow the advice of The first... I don't even know which Jess we're even talking about anymore. There's just so many goddamn Jesses, it's ridiculous. But...
trying to gain the knowledge of and follow the advice of the previous one. And then what it tells you is that as time goes on, each version of Jess is trying to learn more and more information from the previous version of Jess. And then the one truly conflicting thing in the story is that What we call Jess number two at the end of the movie doesn't bother with any of the passing of the information on to Jess number three. She just kills her.
And I think that's her place where she says, this is where I'm going to break the loop. I'm not going to inject somebody new. I'm going to take her place. And go into this knowing what I already know. Now granted. The movie never tells you whether she actually breaks the loop. And normally, again, something that would piss me off with the movie, like, you're not going to tell me how it ends? But this is that one rare time where I was like, you didn't tell me how it ended.
And I'm completely okay with that because I feel like if I would have gotten a solid ending to this movie, it would have lost all of its luster. It just would have completely lost it. And with this, it's like... they gave me enough even up to the end where we have
you know she's driving in the car she hits the seagull she picks it up like it's gross and throws it over the rocks and there's just a pile of seagulls there or with as they're going through and it's the one friend whose name i can never remember because She's a redhead, so I should remember her name, but I don't. but finds a pile of... Is it... I think it's Sally. Is it Sally? That she finds a pile of Sally bodies? Which was very reminiscent of a certain Resident Evil movie. But...
What it tells us is that as we're going through this and it's maybe one of the more entertaining parts of this movie is that. We spend so much time feeling like we're making progress and then the movie just comes in and just slaps you in the face and says, fuck you. No, you're not. And I like that. I really like that about the movie where it's like, just fold its arm and just goes, get back in line, bitch. I love that about this movie. And it's.
Again, it's what makes it so watchable because this movie does not stick to any of the typical formula. It makes you pay attention. You really have to pay attention. If you turned your eyes away from this movie for 60 seconds and looked back, you'd be like, I don't know what the fuck is going on. And that is a well-made movie. If you can... Watch a movie and go and take a piss and get a brownie or whatever it is and a beer and come back and sit down and you still know what's going on.
That's a very predictable story. And this movie is not that at all. But it's ultimately part of what makes it so engaging. But then also trying to figure out, because there's a couple of parts in here where you don't know which Jess is with. And when they have those moments, you're like, you sort of lean back and just go like, what's, what's going to happen? Which Jess is going to win. And then when one does.
Did the one I want to win win? I don't know. You know, so because there's some spots in this movie where I... I honestly think that just number one and just number two, there was a very slim potential that they might have traded spots. Now, I'm going to have to watch it again to be sure, but that they might have traded spots, and the one that, even getting to the very end, because I had this little thought in my head.
And so our original jest, like you said, is just longing for a day off from being a parent to an autistic child. So we see Jess number one, Jess number two, and Jess number three. Jess number three is obviously just not a kind person. But what if Jess number one was only one or two steps away from not being that kind person, but she's actually the one that won?
And then we get to the movie, what if she killed Jess number three and was getting back on the boat and maybe said, hey, when we go out and we leave the harbor, maybe we go left instead of right. And she just sails off and the loop just stops. And so, and aside from the movie fucking with you as you're watching it, this movie actually fucks with you later when you're thinking about it. And that's awesome. That's a good damn movie.
Yeah, I love the fact that we have like our gotcha moment when it's like. Dress finally makes it off a boat. She wakes up on the shore the following morning. You know, she heads back home, distracts her counterpart by ringing the doorbell. Kills herself at home. Takes Tommy, brings him to the car, convinced that, you know, she's finally broken free from the loop.
But Jess ends up striking a seagull with the car while driving and gets out of the car to dispose of the body. And that's when she dumps it. onto what appears to be dozens of dead seagulls indicating that this is all part of the vicious loop that she is still in. So it's a car crash that links the beginning of the film to its tragic end. And it's just one of those moments where it's like, okay, we lost both of them. Leave it a new dress to witness the aftermath and horror. And we have this.
A mysterious man approaching Jess, offering her a ride, and she makes a desperate plea to be taken to Greg's boat in a bid to escape the never-ending loop. And as Jess drifts off to sleep on the boat, she awakens to the realization that, like... she doesn't really have much of a memory of the loops she has been trapped in before and it's just a cycle of tragedy confusion continuing to repeat itself leaving just in the state of just perpetual fear and uncertainty
And there definitely are times when it's like we do kind of have an indicator of like how long this cycle has been going on. Because at one point, Jess is trying to grab her lock. And there's kind of like a grid thing on the floor. And there's probably 40, 50 lockets down there. Well, and that's the same thing with both The Seagulls and then The One Friend, where it's clearly been repeated a bunch of times. And again, the movie, so very sneakily, doesn't really...
It doesn't really tell you if we're just following the same course again or if... through and i i always think of like if you're doing anything in life right whether it be painting, writing calligraphy, you know, building little miniature figures and painting them, doing whatever else. The whole thing feels to me like it's...
we're coming down to basically upon maybe not our actual physical memory, but more of like a muscle memory thing, right? Where like, I've been here before and what do I do? Because it does feel like as the movie goes on, Most of Jess's memories are not... specifically like a vivid recall memory, it's more of a thing that I did before. You know, it's a place where I was where I did a thing versus...
I was out at the picnic and everybody was having a good time and the potato salad was great but probably got left in the sun too long and that's why everyone got food poisoning. It's not one of those things. It feels more like a been there, done that sort of scenario. And that feels like how she's learning. But it also does feel, with our second gesture specifically, like... For whatever reason, she's the one that got worn down. And worn down passed to the place of...
having to care for the autistic son. It's like she got... Like next level worn down, which is why she went and killed Jess 3. I mean, and anyone that watches this movie is not going to for a second think that Jess 3 didn't have it coming because Jess 3 did. And I think we can all be okay with that. But again, it goes back to my one and only complaint about this movie.
the how slash y what is the what is the mechanism of the loop i mean if and if the loop is the bermuda triangle well okay that's cool but give me just a little give me a little nugget of y or give me Give me the black and white newspaper print of a previous story from 1947 where Sailor Lost at Sea repeats the same thing. Something. Just something that gives me a nugget as to the why.
It's like I said, it's my only complaint about the movie. And when we dive back in and she's going back on Greg's boat. you know, and the cab driver picks her up and she's like, I need to go here. But she's clearly at a place where she's anxious slash excited ready for a little bit of a getaway the look on her face is that she's preparing for battle and
I think all the previous Jesses probably weren't there. So, I mean, if one had a chance of getting out of this and breaking this, it's probably her. so unlike other time look movies like you know groundhog day happy death day a triangle does take like a darker approach to the concept uh while the other films focus on finding a way out of the loop Triangle delves more into the depths of tragedy, self-realization, and I think...
The movie I could tie this closest to is probably more akin to like time crimes. Triangle explores the complexities of time travel and the consequences of altering. uh one's fate and both films do share a common theme of self-discovery and the realization that one's actions can have far-reaching consequences uh and this film really challenges viewers to like question like the nature of reality the choices that we make and
you know, go into the like Greek aspect of this story. Like it is a tragedy that delves into like the depths of punishment and fate. Jess, our, uh, protagonist finds herself in this.
uh sisyphean hell after committing in offense against you know her autistic son and just like sisyphus in the myth like jess is trapped in this never-ending cycle of torment that she can't escape Both of them are like cases of facing what could be like minor transgressions that result in these brutal and eternal consequences.
And, you know, even like when we go through the movie, like the allusions to Greek mythology are pretty abundant. Like through the narrative, you know, we have the name of the ocean liner. In Homer's Odyssey, Odysseus and his men encounter Aeolus on an island where he gives them a bag filled with winds to aid their journey. And much like Sisyphus and Jess, Odysseus' greed leads to his downfall, sending him back to the beginning of his quest.
And even like the driver who offers Jess a ride after the car crash could be like Sharon, the ferryman of the Greek mythology who guides souls to the after. Jess's desperate plea for just one day off seems to anger the gods of Triangle, just condemning her to this eternity of punishment with each loop she endured. well i mean ultimately the whole thing revolves around i mean that there's there's a feeling we all get the feeling of um
I've been here before, right? And I think most of us would refer to it as deja vu. You know, I've been here before. I think... What the movie is basically trying to tell us is that Yes, we all experience that deja vu, but as people, we take next to nothing or nothing away from that experience. You know, I think of... because i i was honestly thinking about this because i know that this movie is
One of the things that reminded me of was the movie Memento. Now, Memento was more about not knowing and gaining the knowledge as you go. This is the stupidest comparison, but this is like the best one that I have. I think about working in my woodshop and I think about I'm doing something.
And oddly enough, it often revolves around my table saw where I've got this giant spinning blade that could very easily kill me. And I'm doing something with a piece of wood and I have this thought in my head. It's like... I should do this differently And then I do it differently and then things are fine and then I don't think about it again. But...
If I were to go back, I would be like, well, it's because I did this thing a certain way one time before and it ended in a negative result. And that's whether like... I've hit my fingers on a table saw blade, okay? Not... I was not scarred. I didn't have to go to the emergency room, but I've done it. And I'll tell you what, it makes you shit yourself a little bit when you do it. I've put a piece of wood through my table saw and not been paying attention and it fires out.
and barely misses me and puts a hole in the wall behind me, okay? Also a bad thing. But I think you learn from those things, and that's, I think, a big piece of what this movie is about, is that... It's not necessarily about a specific moment. It's about taking those moments and putting them into a group and making them an experience that becomes cumulative and you can learn from it.
And you can change the next time you do things. Even if you don't necessarily consciously do it, you can learn. And you can make the next time better. Now... To say the movie is dark, I mean, it has the death of a child. So, I mean, that's... In terms of horror, I mean... generally speaking there's two things you don't kill in horror movies right you don't kill dogs and you don't kill children right so and
If you kill children, you've gone really dark. And if you kill dogs, well, then you're probably independent and probably have a really low budget. But that's just how movies are. So when you kill a child, you're trying to make a point. For me, the point of this one is pretty clear. The point is you have a lady who wants to be a better mother and doesn't know how and has to go through a bunch of horrific things to try to learn the lesson.
And if you look at the world today, there's lots of people that have to go through horrific times and don't learn the lesson. They just keep repeating the same shit over and over and over again. I don't use this word often but I'm going to use it for this movie. This movie is profound. It is a movie that you watch it, and again, this was the first time that I've watched this movie start to finish, taking the whole thing in, and it stays in your thoughts.
Which is what a good movie should do. A good film should stay in your thoughts. It should not be... A Marvel movie where you go, yep, the guy pulled out the blades or the swords or the stones or the lasers and did whatever else. And then this shit happened and a planet did or did not explode. Okay. I mean, forgive me for people that love Marvel movies, live your life, but they're not profound movies. They're not.
a thinking person's movie this is a thinking person's movie and If you choose to view it like that, and you choose to think about the story, the characters, all the things that you see happen, the level of repetition for a point. it's going to stick with you. And I went to bed last night after we watched this. This movie kept me up like two hours longer than I needed to be up because I was like,
Because it's what my mind does. It was like, well, wait, why did she and how did she and what was the and it was like, so how did it end? So it starts, it makes you mentally draw out a map and like try to start connecting lines together and then you get done and then you realize you've drawn a bowl of spaghetti and you're like, fuck. But that's good filmmaking. That's, I mean, that's what I like out of a movie that, like...
If it was 2009 and I had just seen this and I knew you, I would be like, dude, you got to see this. You have to fucking see this. And I mean, in a given year, how often does that happen? Two or three, four times maybe, where one of us is like, you've got to watch this because it's going to fucking get you. And there's just not many like it. getting to the end of the thing and knowing knowing that our character has both Seen herself at her worst.
And decided that's not who she wants to be anymore. And is willing to go through this whole experience again. With a slight chance. Knowing what she knows and seeing what she's seen. Knowing that she has the slightest chance of coming out the other side and maybe this time is different. It's... It's the... It makes you want to grasp humanity and just give it a hug and go, maybe there's a fucking chance. Yeah, and this was a...
I mean, I want to call it a gem, but it's honestly beyond that. It's beyond a gem. It's a movie that everybody should see, and I think as humans, I think you could put 10 people in a room and have them watch it, and they would give you 10 different experiences. And again, that talks about this just sublime filmmaking. Yeah, definitely complexities to the plots that can be mind-boggling, but it's really the meticulous attention to detail.
in its construction that is honestly awe-inspiring in this movie. That being said, I still have lingering questions that I think about this movie. How does Jess manage to return to the dock after she's thrown overboard? Why can't she seem to outsmart her former self when they're in a fight? Why are there some items that reset while others accumulate over the course of these timelines?
Like, you know, poor Sally's body. Also, what's going to happen when there's no more space for another corpse on the Sally pile? Well, and how does that one level of the ship not stink to hide? It would be like Pigpen and the Peanuts, right? You'd see the stench coming off of it. There'd be seagulls and all kinds of shit. But, I mean, at the same time... you have to allow a certain level of movie logic where it's just, these are the things that are going to happen. And if you had to have,
I mean, and all things may go in that scene, there were seagulls there at the bodies. There were seagulls picking away the bodies. So you can't. It's making a scene of a movie where... I think it's fair to say at this point that you and I are not casual movie watchers. We are people that...
We will get hung up on details and we will batter them into the grave. Good, bad, or otherwise. And maybe we're completely fucking wrong. That isn't the point. The point is that we have a detail that we get hung up on. With all of the Sally body pile and the fact that even as she drags one more body out there and then she's walking back in and she's kicking seagulls to the side because the seagulls are picking, you know what? That satisfied me.
I did not have to see fumes and mold and maggots. It was enough. So that tells me that it was thought out enough where it's like, Yes, I can't give you the oozing vat of human fat that would happen on the sun deck of a ship. I can't give you that. But here's what I can give you that I think is a person you'd relate to. And it totally did it. You know, as far as things resetting, I think. I think ultimately with this loop that we're in, I think that the things become finite.
End up being the people, you know, because we do see that there are several people that go overboard, you know, there's people that become a seagull bait floating, just floating out in the ocean. So it's not. it doesn't fall outside of my realm of believability that it's like, well, This changed a little bit. Yeah, so why are there 40 lockets and why are there not a pile of 40 single-shot shotguns somewhere?
Well, okay. Well, let's use movie slash video game logic. It's a weapon. They're not just laying around everywhere, right? So... But it's real enough and believable enough that you can, I think, as a movie watcher, even someone who's semi-casual can just go, oh, yeah, that makes sense. And if the only complaint that I have is... Tell me about the how slash why. You know, just why is this happening? And...
But then I can put on my dunce cap and go, well, it's called triangle, Bermuda triangle. Yeah, okay, good enough. And then just move on from there. So attempting to unravel all the mysteries of Triangle does kind of feel like a never-ending adventure, much akin to the myth of Sisyphus, as we mentioned.
You know, we may never uncover all the answers, which is fine, but that's part of the thrill of diving into this world. You know, it's embracing the unknown, reveling in the intrigue that keeps us coming back for more. This is one of the time that movies like. It remains enjoyable even after multiple view-ins. It definitely passes with flying colors. It's just an exceptional, intense time-loop thriller that may at times bend its own rules a bit.
But, you know, it's still a satisfying film overall. So if you guys have not seen this, which, you know, maybe you haven't. It's definitely one that I would recommend. I will just note, there was another movie of the same name in the same year. Which I'm pretty sure has nothing to do with Sailor or anything like that. So make sure you're watching the Christopher Smith movie. It's a W2 there is a real question. I'm dying to know. No, it's not. Interesting.
I have to jump. All right, okay. Updates in real time. But yeah. Great pick by Emily. Another first time watch for you. uh as well uh and and i will i will share this with you after but you know i when i was doing my research on this someone did kind of like map out the timeline a little bit more like in detail
Oh. But, you know, I didn't want to, like, be staring at a triangle throughout the entirety of the recording, because that would just make no fucking sense to do, and it would probably honestly just confuse me even more. Oh, do you have a link? Do you have a link that you can... Maybe I can just post the image. Okay. Oh, okay. So so other than that, you know, I feel like we still need to bring this up. There was a room 237.
Oh, no shit. Was there really? Yeah. Oh, well, so that's a whole... Yeah, we can't. I can't. Because we'll be here for two more hours if we start talking about it. That's where Jess writes a message on Lemire. Oh, in her own blood, no less. Okay. The more you know. Well, fuck, well, I know what I'm doing tomorrow. What the fuck? Because I'm going to see the screenboat.
Oh, boy. Tomorrow's going to be a busy day. I'm going to have to re-watch this movie over a series of bathroom breaks during my 10 hours at my white-collar job. Okay, well, you know what? I'm getting to be an old man. I eat a lot of fast food. I can shit that much. I got it in me. I can do it. So what? Just looking at that image, it's like.
I mean, goddamn, somebody thought that out. That is, uh, that's impressive. I want to meet this person and shake their hand. Holy shit. Okay, well, you know what? I have to watch this again. That's what it tells me. I got to watch it again. For as awesome as the first time Watch was and... I mean, I think at this point, you know me, I, I, I don't like people, but I'm also very much a humanist. So like I, I, I get their emotions and I understand them. I just don't have a lot of time for them.
In the end, this movie is about, I think, Being your best self, but at the same time understanding that A lot of times being your best self is doing the same fucking thing over and because I know you do the same fucking thing over and over again. I do the same fucking thing over and over again. having the wisdom to separate that thing that you do to survive because that's what we do that's how we make our money right and having the wisdom to separate that and just going well
Yeah, there were some frustrations. There were some things that pissed me off. There was some people that if I could, I would throw them off the building. And just knowing that it's what gets us to where we are right now, where we get to sit down and... Have the... Have the distraction slash... spiritually and mentally uplifting conversations that we have because that's what they end up being for me. I often watch a movie on Tuesday and I'm stuck thinking about it.
And then we have our discussions on Wednesday and I get to the end and I think that I'm done thinking about it. And then I'm not done thinking about it and I have to think about it more. It sounds like something that would be annoying and frustrating, but it's actually not. It's actually one of those things where I like knowing, because I'm a person that likes movies in general.
I will re-watch great movies ad nauseum. I mean, people would probably be disgusted by the movies that I've watched and how many times I've watched them. But when you get to take your movie file cabinet and take something like Triangle and you have to go... Down three drawers, pull it out, go to the tees and go, here's another great run to rewatch for just in perpetuity for time.
That's kind of a rare thing. And this one is one that's going to go in the file cabinet. And I'm going to come back to it. Because A, I understand it. B, it makes me uncomfortable, but I still understand it. And C, I think I still have some things to learn from it. And I mean, that's... When it comes to horror movies, that's what I live for. I live for the greats. For me, this has ended up in my greats column.
so we're gonna go from just disposing of herself multiple times over the course of this time loop To Jess's phobia. Which is acrophobia. Extreme or irrational fear. A pipe. So join us Tuesday night. 7 30 pm pacific time we'll be watching fall which came out in 2022 as i mentioned to you pre-show i did not see this in theaters i did not rent it When it came out. But. I remember seeing the trailers for it and the trailers and the way that the trailers were shot were nauseated. So I'm very curious.
to see uh how it's going to affect me because i too am also afraid of heights uh so i'm curious to see if it's going to induce similar feelings like You know, another one of the movies we'll be reviewing later in the year did for my claustrophobia. This movie, I saw it in theaters. I'm a grown man, okay? I'm a grown man. There's not a lot in the world that even slightly knocks me off kilter.
In this movie, in the theater, I covered my eyes several times, and I ended up putting my popcorn on the floor and not touching it again because I was so nauseated. And now you could say that it's, there's some visuals and some camera work in this that is nauseating. And that's absolutely true, but I believe it was on purpose and it worked. So there's a movie coming out called Drop. We've talked about this and how much neither one of us is excited to see it.
There's one scene in the trailer where she, there's a broken window and she slides to the edge and you see over the edge and look down. Right there. Just like, I just go. And it's like I said, I didn't know that I had a fear of heights until I saw the movie Fall. And then I both found out that I had a fear of heights. And it fully cemented it into my psyche from there forward. Fall is an interesting movie in the fact that... Most of it is single setting.
But they take a single setting, which is literally two people standing on a piece of metal. Eight fucking miles up in the atmosphere. And they make it interesting. And they make it intriguing. And they make it scary. As opposed to just two people standing on a piece of metal in the middle of the fucking in space, basically. That's how high up they are. After you watch that movie, the first time you are driving down the road and you see a giant aerial antenna.
you're going to think about it differently. And so is it... The fantastic Oscar winning blah, blah, blah. No, it's not. uh is it fear inducing and will it change the way you see a lot of the things that you drive past every day and take for granted oh hell yes it will it absolutely will um i'm I'm honestly, I'm surprised that it will be a first time for you. I thought it would just be one on your list that you just go and check off and, um, but you haven't ever commented on it. So, um,
I don't often say this, but I hope that it scares the shit out of you because it did be. And for a PG-13 horror movie? That's not... This movie is not about blood and guts and tits and whatever else. This movie is about atmosphere and just making you afraid of your environment. Yeah, it's a winner. It's a winner. I hope you like it as much as I did. So we'll be watching that on Tuesday. Don't forget to join us on Thursday. Check out one of the new releases.
I'll also be streaming this into Discord at 7.30pm Pacific Time. I will be watching Cannibal Muckbane. So, I mean, I was sold on a poster. I was sold on the title. We're going to watch it tomorrow. So. Hope to see you fiends there for that. If not for that, we'll see you for fall on Tuesday night. Also at 7.30 p.m. Pacific time. But thank you so much for joining us again for another episode of Handle with Scare. Join the Discord.
Join us for the watch parties. Always stuff happening in the Discord. I don't know why Bob posts some really random things at times in the middle of when we're recording, so I had a comment on that. as we're recording. So yeah, so there's that. But in the meantime, I hope you guys enjoy your weekend. Go out. Go watch Screamboat. Let us know where it ranks in your Mickey Mouse slasher movies because I'm dying to know.
Where it's going to land for us is I really dug Mousetrap, but that's primarily because it's more 90s last year. But, you know, this one definitely has some potential.
Well, we got David Howard Thornton as the mouse. And so right now with the way things are going, anything that can give a giant middle finger to Disney, I am in favor of. I also like... turquoise lingerie and boots apparently so thank you bob um yeah so well i was thinking about the movie tonight i'm not anymore so um keep up the good work bob because holy shit
Yeah, giddy up. Definitely giddy up, Bob. Holy mackerel. Yeah, as we always say, go to the theater, see the movies. They'll keep making them. We'll have something to do. absolutely we'll see you guys next week you guys have a good night