The Ham Radio two point zero audio podcast rip. Thank you for downloading and listening to this podcast. So basically what I do is I take all the audio clips out of my videos and upload them to spreaker, and then from there they're spread out to iTunes and SoundCloud and now Amazon Audible as well. But I want to welcome you and thank you for joining the audio section of
this series on Ham Radio. I hope you enjoy it, and I would appreciate you leaving us a comment or a review on whatever podcast service you're listening from. Thank you in seventy three. I hope you enjoy it. Ooh and there it is right there. Good evening everyone to the crowd. You know what, I didn't pull my chat out. That's what I was forgetting.
You know what, You go out of town for like a week, and you go visit a climate that is quite frankly, a lot nicer than it is here right now, because it was eighty five degrees when I left Salt Lake City yesterday. Wow, it was nice. So thanks for joining us today Ham Radio two point zero Sunday Night live stream and I gotta put the chat overlay in here so I can highlight people's comments because you just forget stuff like that sometimes. So shout out to everybody in the chat who is
green text. I see in five skt in there kind of giving us a Linux lesson a C three. Iks in there. Good evening. Ed kd Emerti is in there because he's he's going to ask the inevitable Macintosh macin crash question tonight. So I just like to tease Mike. Mike's Max Max have been great since they moved to a Unix based does. But we'll talk about that later here in a little bit. Uh So yeah, special shout out to him Radio Crusader in the chat, WB seven out and several other people
in the chat. I see Frank's in there tonight. I see Izo in there. My wife's in there. So great. It's good to be back in Texas. I'm disappointed that it's eighty it's one hundred and five degrees with one hundred and five percent humidity, but I am glad to be home because I missed UH live streaming last Sunday night. We did the giveaway of the h showing us. We did the giveaway of the FT five. When I got to Hebrew City, which is where the new Buddy Pool headquarters is going
to be. And that was won by Bill W seven peed really cool guy who told us a lot about the repeater system out there, about some some win Lenk gateways that are out there and that kind of thing aprs beacons that are out there. I was like, man, this beacon. This thing's been beacon in all day. He's like, oh yeah, there's a APRS a I get right there on top of that mountain that like eight thousand feet or some crazy number like that. So that was fun. So congrats to
him. We had a lot of fun with that giveaway. Gonna do something else like that in the future. So stand by, all right, we're talking about Ham Radio Deluxe tonight and uh, we're going to bring Mike in Wa nine pie. Is that right? I think that's right. So so yeah, let's right, okay, So let's let's just hop into it, guys. I gotta make sure I'm doing this right here, So I gotta
let Frank say something real quick. So Frank is in the chat and he is or he's in the zoom and he's monitoring the chat for questions tonight, guys, So we are going to take a Q and A. We're gonna let Mike do a kind of a presentation type thing, an interactive type thing tonight, and we will be taking a Q and A at the end. So anybody who wants who has a question, if you tie the word question in the chat, we can highlight it and be a little bit easier to
see what's up. Frank, not much, not much. I have something to tell everybody. Well, give you everybody an update here. Yeah, about my tumblers. If you missed the short little video I posted today. I about two weeks ago, I got to notice that a package was going to be delivered to my house. I said, yay, I don't know what this package is because it was just starting to go show up kind of
randomly, and it was damaged. I got another notification say it was damaged in transit and it was shipped back to the center I This Friday, I called and I verified that was the whiskey tumblers, and every one of them broke in transit. Apparently UPS thought it was a good idea to put something heavy and decrease the box size by half. Oh well, so they are reprinting them and getting those back to me. So there's a little bit of
delay. I'm sorry for everyone. Depending from here on Huntsville they show up, they might need to I might have to push them until shipping them out to everybody after Huntsville. But we'll just see when they get there. But I can't keep that happened. Yep, I saw your video. You can
you can link that in the chat if you want to. Yeah. Yeah, So all right, Well let's get to the order at hand, which of course is Ham Radio Deluxe. Micael you you have a screen you want to share with us tonight, I can, I think, you know, if it's okay, I'm going to try to avoid kind of boring people with a power point. We'll just kind of talk through it if that's okay. I mean, there's a few things that I can show and I want to show, and we canflict to that if okay, when we get to that
point, is that cool? Yeah? Absolutely? The floor is yours. Good evening, and thank you for taking the time tonight. Yeah. Thanks, And first of all, I want to thank everybody. Jason and I've been talking about doing this for a while. Jason doesn't live too far away from me, so we got to meet for lunch here a while back with Lyndy and set this up. So I'm glad to be able to be on
here. I want to thank all of the HRD fans worldwide, and you know, it's really kind of why I do this and why I get excited about it. And I also want to make sure, so I sent out a newsletter over the weekend to fifty one thousand of our customers and ask them to join in. So if you're joining Jason's show as a result of me sending that, please feel free to subscribe to Jason's channel and support Jason because
what he's doing is really important. So do that and we'll, you know, we'll be able to have these conversations and other really interesting conversations too. So yeah, we've we've got some Mike and I, like you said, we had lunch together a couple of weeks ago, and I came up with at least three ideas about different show. I mean, we're not to do all three ideas in one hour segment tonight, so we're gonna talk about one or two topics tonight. Then we've got at least two I think at least
two other shows planned. No no dates we're gonna get together for more stuff, so you guys are welcome to throw out suggestions on that part as well. So yeah, definitely, do you do you remember how do you remember how we met? By the way, this is so sweet. I think we met at hamcom like five or six years ago. No, man,
we met you know, we met it. We met it dating because one of the guys that had been working at HROO was working for me for a little bit and then he and I took off to date and yeah, took off to Daton and I had forgotten something. He said, oh, I know somebody that that maybe they haven't left yet, and so they called you up and said, oh hey, can you stop by and grab I don't even remember what it was, I don't Yeah, stop buy and grab this and he did so, and thanks for that, by the way. Yeah,
yeah, I do remember that. I was thinking that we had met like the year before that ham Com, back when ham Coom was a thing. But I do remember that that incident you're talking about, Yeah, that was that was pre COVID, like twenty eighteen or nineteen somewhere in there.
So yeah, good deal. So anyway, so I'll talk a little bit about ham Ray Deluxe, and you can see it a little bit on the screens behind me the the that's kind of the familiar looking radio screen, and I'll get to kind of how the radio screens and all that stuff's going to change over time. But for the uninitiated ham Radio Deluxe, it's kind of like the Microsoft Office of ham Radio. It's meant to have everything in it that you want, and so for me, it's got most everything that I
want. But I'm always seeing somebody doing something interesting. I'm thinking, one, yeah, there's no reason why we can't do that. And I'll get to some of that stuffs here in a minute. But there are basically five applications in the suite. There's a ring control application which looks like this. There is a logbook application which has kind of, in my opinion, you know where the power of the application and the and Hemery deluxeus in the log
book because it has exceptionally good tools for people who are hunting things. So if you're hunting countries, zones, counties, states, grids, you know, all that kind of stuff. It will tell you whether you're operating on if you're in the d X cluster window or if you're in the HRD alert window with ft four ft eight and so on, it'll tell you whether or not you need that, so you don't have to keep a list of these are my wanted call signs. The application knows what you need and it will
tell you when when that pops up. Now, in the next version, we should have podas and sodas and worldwide flower and fauna flora and fauna. So the current the current version is six dot eight, correct, right, okay, so the next version is in six dot nine, we'll have the soda and podist Okay, okay, absolutely, I'll talk about that here in a minute. So you got lot book, you got Digital Moodes which does everything that w S j t X doesn't do from CW and PSK and RIDDY
and all that kind of stuff. We have our satellite tracking application which will in addition to our rotator control application, will adjust your radio for Doppler and adjust your anten of erasmuth in elevation as the satellite passes. And we've done some cool videos from when I was living in Australia where we were talking to people blokes through the International Space Station as it goes by and that's a lot of fun. I think that was one of the things we talked about we
might we might do for fun. But those are the five applications, and we currently kind of have you know, a you know few people on staff, so there's you know me, but you know, I'm an unpaid volunteer for the most part. We have Lyndy and Amber in the sales team who take calls from people wanting to either buy or update their new features and support. We've got Ferry in Europe PD nine FR and Kevin in Florida k C seven FPF and they're helping folks out technically, and I jump in there and
help them on the both sides as I can. So that's who's involved. For those who have been following us for a little bit, there used to be three partners in Ham Radio Deluxe, So when I talked Simon into selling it to me back in twenty eleven, we started the company with three partners. One of them exited at the end of twenty sixteen, so Randy and I continued the company from January twenty seventeen, and then two years ago, just a little bit more than two years ago, I bought Randy out of
the business and so it's been me. It's almost a family run or family owned and operated business at this point. So we're happy about it. But one of the questions that comes up quite often is, well, you guys sell subscriptions, right, and no, we don't. What we sell our perpetual software licenses. So when you buy the software from us, you get an activation key. That's the thing that has value, and you can use
it on any current or future version of HIM Radio Deluxe. And with that initial purchase, you get twelve months of unlimited support, and you get all the features that we release during that twelve month period. At the end of that time, if you decide you know, this is great, does everything
I wanted to do. I don't need tech support. I don't need I'm good with all the features I've got, So just drive on keep downloading the new releases, because that's how you get bug fixes and improvements and things like that. But that puts the puts the pressure on me to get releases out that have new features in it that you'll want, and I'll talk to about some of those things during the show today. If you want to buy new features in support, you get a twelve month extension and the price on that
is usually half of whatever we're selling the full retail price. Cell. That's that's the story on that. That sound reasonable, Jason, Yeah, I mean I'm following what you're saying. Yes, completely cool. Yep. Let's
see. So what we've been trying to do, and you know, arguably it's been getting difficult lately, is, uh, we want to make Cambray to Deluxe the most indispensable thing you have in your shack, whether you're a satellite operator or a casual you know, heag chewer, and you want to keep track of the people you talk to if you're a contest or if you're a dx er, if you're chasing podas or counties or whatever. We want to be part of that journey with you. And in order to do that,
I've been putting pressure. So our developers, by the way, are third parties, and we've got three working full time on us with us now they're contractors, and so that's going fairly well, with some exceptions that I'll get to and here in a moment. But our goal where we want to be is doing four releases a year, with eighty percent of those releases being
fixes. And improvements, twenty percent being enhancements to existing features, and I'd like to have two to four new features a year, with a new application every twenty four months. So let me talk about that from me. New application, let's say a new application would be one of the things we're thinking
about doing. And we actually have this code kind of roughed in, but we want to do something similar to other products that allow you to program your memories and you know, the settings in radios, including HTS and Marble radios. We don't do that today, so that would be a new application for us, another new application. It would be one of the things that I want to do is we've got another application that I didn't mention, and we
will replace that. It's called Mapper, and we'll end up replacing that with something called hr Global HRD global View, and HRD global View will basically allow
you to put anything or everything that you find interesting on a map. If you think about it, it's somewhat similar to grid tracker, I suppose, but it's also whether and you know, earthquakes, and you know, if you think about maybe what another product does with putting things on a four K display, we want to be able to do that and you'll be able to actually cast it to a four K display when it's done. We've started to
rough that in, so that's what's going on there. But for the most part, what we've been working on lately is the six dot nine release, which is predominantly Logbook, So let me talk about that for a moment.
Sure, Logbook and all of the all of the software. By the way, the development began when Windows XP was a thing, right and really before Windows XP Service Pack three, so it goes way back with version five in the in the XP world, and as we're trying to make updates to hammerdo Deluxe over the course of the last few years, for five years anyway, it's becoming in reasingly difficult to do that because the code as it's written has
a whole lot of i'll call it baggage that's been carried across from you know, Windows XP as well as to be fair, we've had a lot of different developers in the software over the course of the last ten years, and it was just I love developers, by the way. I've had lots of them work for me. But every time you bring in a new developer, they've got a new idea and they may not necessarily follow the path that the last one did. So we've actually got a firm or a development firm working
with us now and they'll own the code from this point forward. That's the plan. So we're rebuilding Hamryo Deluxe step by step, starting with Logbook. I got with it. I told the guys I wanted and gal I told them I wanted to release out by Dayton this year, and they came to me in early May and they said that can't happen. They said, we really need to rewrite this, and we need to rewrite it with tools that
are not Windows centric. So the interesting step on that is is that the software has been developed in C plus plus with MFC, which is Microsoft Foundation Classes. I think it's what it stands for, but it's correct very specific Frank. Frank's a C plus plus developers. So now you're going to get a lot of comments about how it's the greatest thing. Instance, I'm just smiling all this kind of garbage, and you know the thing we make fun of him for every week. So but no, go ahead. I thought,
well, we're going to talk about C plus plus today. I thought that would bore almost everyone, But it turns up there are some people who would say, no, man, I don't do C plus plus programming anymore because I'm using you know, C sharp and I'm using But if you really want to have an application that's robust, that can get all the way to the kernel accessing hardware in a meaningful way, you're writing it inn C plus plus period, and that's the way it goes. But we don't need MFC.
So what we're doing with logbook right now is the first one we're doing where we're basically making a platform change from MSc to something called QT. And I don't know Frank knows about QT or not, but basically okay, but but QT is multi platform, right, So we're moving the code off of MFC, or off of the old code base into a platform based on QT and C plus plus and we can compile it in such a way that overrun
on Linux or it'll run on Mac, and that's really important. We can't continue, you know, I get a lot of grief lately because we don't have the release out, and I get it. I got thick skin for the most parts. I'll take what I'll take my lumps. But we have a large community within him Radio of people that don't want to use Windows, and we want to you know, that's a you know, that's a growing and significant part of HAM Radio, and so we want to be able to
service those folks. And I have people coming to me all the time saying, you know, if it runs on Mac. Well, you know, what's the the disingenuous thing is is that I've got competitors in this business who say, well, yeah, you can run our software on a Mac. Sure you can't with VMware virtual box, running Windows in a box and then you can load the sod you know, to me, that's not that's definitely not running your software in Knicks or Mac right, that's kind of dissigenated any
step. So we want to have software that will actually run natively sixty four bit. So that's what we're doing, and that's why it's taken longer to get this release out. That makes sense, yes now is uh? And correct me if I'm wrong here, But I was thinking, because I know you're working on basically two different releases right now, six dot nine and seven. So the Mac and Linux version will that which one of those? Will
that be? Seven? Seven? Okay? Yeah? So what's gonna what's gonna happen is we'll do a six nine, which will be and I'm the numbers might not be exactly the way I'm going to pan this out, but okay, you know, for for the monstrat person's purposes, six nine will
be the logbook. Migration six ten will be the rig control, migration six to eleven will probably be the you know, rotor control, and you know DM seven eighty, and maybe we fit you know, the other three satellite tracking, which most of those won't require as much work as what we're what we have to put into two log books. So once logbook is done,
I think these things will go a lot more smoothly. The good news is is that the kinds of difficulties that we have with the existing code based pretty much go away with the new code based, and we'll have people who are
familiar with the code and they can make changes more quickly. Okay, okay, let's see if I'm trying to think if I've forgotten anything that I intended to bring out thinking this mostly but you know what's happening right now is I have three developers working seven days a week pretty much, and I get an update from them once a day. I get a view of what they're doing once a week. Things are coming along. I like what I see. But it's just that it took ten years or more to build what what people
are using. It's not going to get you know, built overnight. But they're making great progress, right. A couple of quick questions here, since we're talking about portability across platforms, Nick is asking, are you going to try to do a phone version later, a phone version, a mobile version? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean I want to do it. Here's here's some of the things that I think need to happen in the hobby
in order to make that possible. Because right now, with maybe flex A being the you know exception to this rule, every radio on the planet requires a comport or a virtual comport for anybody's software to talk to it. If you think about what goes on the Space Shuttle, I mean they probably still have nine pin you know dB nine comports. It just takes so long to
get changes made and engineering like that. But all these radios right now, all these radios really need to move to an IP you know, based connection. I don't know that Bluetooth is the right thing for that personally, but I think an IP connection for those so that we can access them from any
devices what needs to happen. Now, we can probably come up with a bridge that's kind of a you know, a comport to Ethernet bridge, and you know, we've talked about creating these little boxes that are basically interfaces between the calm hardware and an IP you know, address, and we could do all this, but all those kinds of things are the things that need to happen for us to be able to do this on a Android or you know,
a device that doesn't have or USB cables, right. I mean, I think it's funny because years ago, you know, we all had comports in the PCs, and then they put modems in them, and then we had you know, we had to go buy external Ethernet adaptors to pop plug in, and then everybody got those included. And now they don't even bother to put that stuff in because it's all Wi Fi. So a lot of those connectors are going away in the consumer PC markets and so on. So
we really need that kind of transition to happen for hand radio hardware. But you know, look at us, you know, as a hand radio community. We are frugal, man, I'm just gonna I'm gonna put it like that. We are really frugal. So you know, we'll squeeze every ounce out of a you know, TS four thirty n tell there's nothing left to get out of it, right, And if we want to use radios like that with you know, reasonably recent software, we need to have something else
for that. But yeah, look, you know, for Frank, the other thing we want to do is we want to have cloud based databases for people to access so that they can not They can either be working off of a local database or they can work off of a cloud database. If they're doing PODO, we want them to be able to work off the local database and when they get home and connect, the stuff syncs up and then they've got all their data in one place and they don't have to worry about exporting
adi of sending all this other kind of stuff. It just kind of works. I think that was my question at Dayton or Huntsville when we were talking about how you're going to use it in the field and podaing what other question about tech stuff here? Well, fast, are you publishing your development roadmap so we can get a hint at features to come. I have published things like that in the pastors a couple of things that we're working on that.
Because we've got partners in it, I can't really say too much about it, but that's a good answer right there there, say, but what I want. I mentioned HRD global View. Work has already started on that. I've mentioned the ability to program radios and memories and things like that. That'll be a product called HRD Programmer. That's actually live code that's not one hundred percent ready, but I've stopped everybody from working on those things so we can
get work done on six nine. Contesting is something else that we're going to do that requires a third party that I have a general agreement with. And when we get to the point where we can make progress on that, then then you know, we're excited to be able to go down that path. There's a whole lot of other things, you know, like you said, Frank, I'm going want to be able to do you know, all kinds of mobile catchets, you know, enabling people to be more productive remotely.
So right now, for example, you can use hammer remotely, but it doesn't remote everything that you need. So if you think about some of these other services that are using hardware to remote something. We think we can do that in software. So that's where that's going. Okay, that's very very good information you want. Yeah, let me show you something if I can.
I'm gonna share a screen. I'm gonna share this. Okay, I'm going to share the whole application just because you know, I've got a I don't know if you've run across this, but I've got a forty nine inch screen. If I share the whole screen, it's going to be so small that you can't see it. Yeah. Yeah, this is actual live code. This is this is the look and feel that you'll get out of handwriting
delect version seven. This is live code for rig control. And the idea is is that you would be able to have you know, as many ready as you want. You know, this is mocked up with an ninety seven hundred, but there's another tab here for an fd D X one O one D And if you had multiple radios there, just like you have today,
you would be able to connect multiple radios. And then if you have her over a dial and you know I'm scrolling it that way, but if you have her over a dial, you'd be able to scroll the dial, you can, you'd be able to type in frequencies directly. So that's that's where that'll go. And like I said, I took this from Live Code, but it's it's not ready yet. The menus will kind of start to look more modern as well, so we'll see in version seven how this stuff will
begin to look like a more modern application. I mentioned HRD programmer. This probably doesn't work too well on on screens, but basically this is kind of the typical spreadsheet view of you know, your memory and you can update them and change them and get your you know, CTCSS codes in there and all that happy stuff, so that when you program them you can you can do it that way. We've kind of gotten by on. You know, you
can do favorites today in Hanryo Deluxe. So if you're an HR fan then then that works great because if you move from radio to radio, you don't have to program any memories. They're already in software. But for those folks that want our program mobile radios and things like that, that's how that's all gonna work. Let me see if I can un share my screen. There
we go, stop sharing perfect so that's that's where that stuff's going. That's gonna be a lot of fun good that's Yeah, that sounds like some exciting stuff you've got going on there for sure. But and I know we've got a lot of Mike. If you're at a stopping point, we can switch to the Q and A because I know we got a lot of questions that came in and uh, I'm gonna unpin or I'm gonna let Frank down here,
hey, and then you can. Okay, Frank, I'm just gonna make a disclaimer up front, this is not going to turn into a C plus plus Okay, okay, okay, talking about Ham Radio Deluxe, this Live Strike Alright, Don has already said. I know Don's already going off about the cloud stuff, so you know that too. But yeah, no, I know, we got a lot of questions that came in, which is awesome. Thank you for all the questions. So we're gonna try to get to all those. So go ahead, Frank. Do you have the
top ones? Yep, I I kind of have sorted a little bit here Ham Radio crib notes. Does it display like grid tracker you're talking about tracking contacts? When that question came in. Yeah, it will. I mean that's one of the design objectives that if you're in a QSO or if you're watching decodes come out of w S j t X or whatever, JTDX or whatever you're using, the intention is for it to kind of show the path of all those things. That's not hard to do and will do that,
but you know, we want to go beyond that. And really, because your log exists in log book HRD logbook, it knows what you need. There's a lot of other programs where you have to enter in wanted call signs or wanted this we're not going to go down the wanted path because we we already have the needed path under control. But it'll do that. It'll put up you know, propagation, it'll put up you know DX, you know, maximum usable frequencies and things like that on the screen and other kinds of
things that you can get from live feeds. That's the intention. Cool. Cool, I'm looking forward to it. Great man Poda is asking will it have PoTA integration support both for activators and hunters. Yes, let me see if I can. I'm gonna do now, I'm now, I'm going to
do something really risky here, right, you give us my step. I'm going to go to I'm going to go to the machine that is the one that the developers are using here, and I'm going to show you something which is really risky, right, all right, So this is a live view of the current test machine. This is what the developers are working from. So they just dumped a bunch of data in it. And this is using a sequel light for the database. I mean, if I double click on
this, like click, click, it's open. I mean, it's just lightning fast. And again this is brand new code, so it does not carrying a lot of stuff along with it. But out here at the end there's a PODA tab and as a as a as a hunter, you know, if I find that, you know, here's somebody, and it automatically will download this list of potas. So if you have an Internet connection, it'll pull down the podal list and if you you know, you'll be able
to search for you know whatever. So that is the live activations PoTA spots. No, these are the this is the comes to parents the parks. Okay, oh I get it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's what that That was one of the questions. We got to yet, so you're answer, you're pre answering, So that's good. Go ahead. So basically, if you know, I'm just gonna click on you know, bad Lands and select Okay, so it automatically fills in the park number
and all that kind of stuff. And and the way it's going to work is it will automatically give the hunter the ability to point their antenna in the direction of the park. Right, and so SODA's the same thing. I mean, if I bring this up, I'll get a list of the soda. You know, it's similar concept here, right, I mean if I added that in these can't be both in the same location, right, but and the flora fauna now they can be. Well, here's here's something we
stop. Yeah, that's why I said, you know, doing live demos is kind of a risk. But oh and here's by the way, is dark mode. A lot of people have been asking for dark mode. But let's see now now I'm in an unfamiliar place. But yeah, good, I need to move that out of the way. Right there we go. I mean, this is the same violence got I'm gonna get rid of the dark mode because I don't need it right now. Go back to blue.
So if I you know, if if that's how it would work if you were hunting, and I think, you know, if I hit this again that you know, they don't have that wired up yet, which is why it's doing that. That's okay, let me start back up again. It's going to start in dark mode because that's the way it's configured at the moment. So if I come back to this one, if I might, and
I'm fairly certain they've wired this up now. By the way, this was eighty percent done before Dayton and I did a live demo at dating on and this is when we decided to kind of step back and take a little bit different point of view on this. So this is where you could go and as a as an activator, you would go and pick your park, and then it's gonna put you know, if it's on an island, it's gonna put the island there. If it's got longitude and latitude, it'll fill that
stuff in. But then you know you're going to adjust. I mean, if you had a park, if you were activating Glacier National Park or Yellowstone it's a really big park, so it may span multiple grids and you kind of have to work your way through. You know, am I really where the thing says? I am? I don't have the cluster connected here. But another thing this will do in the new version is there will be a DX histogram which for all the DX spots it will actually show you by band
and mode where all the activity is. And so that'll be pretty cool. That's awesome. Are you going to be able to pull down the live PODA spots? Is that on the roadmap? That's on the roadmap. Here's the challenge right now, the PODA data doesn't come in the same format that DX cluster data. So you know, the whole the whole thing about d X cluster is we parse the data and because the data comes in specific field orders, we can parse it and display it. That's not the way PODA data
comes. But what will what will happen is is that if someone in the comments see if I can connect, but if someone in the comments has you know, part KA zero zero seven or whatever the number is, it'll actually pull that into logbook and you can use it from there. But the data that's on the existing PODA spot pages isn't in the same format, so we'd have some work to do there. Does that make sense? That makes sense? Ye, So as long as on the roadmap, I'm happy. Here's
another question from down here. One will the Yazoo ray control be fully functional? Well, we got lots of Yasu rigs that are fully functional right now, so i'd have to know which one he's asking about. So I got so when I announced it, I was bringing you on tonight, Mike. A couple of people in my discord server yesterday and the day before we're asking
specifically about the eight ninety one. I've never used HRD with the eight ninety one, so I'm not sure what they were talking about, but I believe it was something around band switching for the for HRD recontrol for band switching. So I mean, is there any type of something there that, let's look, I mean if I went in here instead, I want to set up a new new radio, and I think Yasu eight ninety one. I'm not
aware of any reason why there's something there that doesn't work. So if someone, if someone knows of something that they say, well, yeah, I've tried that. But here's this particular problem just started to hopping up with the one on one D he's talking about right now. Yeah, that that works too. We had one of our one of our beta testers was our our
f t d X one on one D kind of lead on this. And there's one thing that I'm aware of with the one on one D that's not working the way we want it, and has to do with the meter display. Apparently right now it will display the meter that's being displayed on the radio, and if you change it on the radio, I think it works fine in software, but if you try to change it in software, it doesn't show it in software because it's still trying to show the one that's on the
radio. That's if I if I've got it right, I think that's what he's saying. The ALC, SWR and b WR aren't functional yet. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's that point. But everything everything else works. But that's the one item that I'm familiar with it that will need to get addressed. Here's from Jose. When is it going to be available for the Mac? What are your targeting for that? Oh? I hate making promises. I always get my backside kick. Okay, what's going is it
going to be? Well, yeah, we already addressed. Yeah, it's coming to Mac and Linux. We already addressed that the gaining the video. We have a lot more people watching now, so some of these answered the questions were answered already. So yeah, and definitely I was locking it up for that softball. Yeah, it's it's absolutely coming. The work we're doing right now is and is designed to help us make progress towards getting multi platform.
Actually, you know what, in addition to multi platform, multi language, because we've got a lot of people wanting it in Spanish and Chaps and German and so and so, multi lingual is a big deal too. But as far as the Mac version, I would love to see it by holiday twenty twenty four. Awesome. And how's that same going for the Linux Yeah?
Yeah cool Now i'd like I said, I'm not making a promise on it, but I mean, as we can get through the other applications and make good version seven out version seven out of the box probably will be the version that's multi platform. Radio Cruskada here is asking are there online videos for training to how to how do you use your software? Yep, we've got our own YouTube channel. There's a lot of videos on there. I mean the one and for example that I'm thinking about is people ask all the time,
how do I back up my log? And we've got capabilities to back up the long that video happens to be I want to say, six years old, but it's it's you know, we haven't changed that feature really. I mean you can back up. You can back it up to five different places simultaneously. So I back it up to Dropbox, one Drive, Google Drive, I Cloud and something else, you know, So basically I simultaneously
I'm backing it up to five different places. And if I can't get to a backup or a copy of my backup, then the world has bigger problems in my long Uh what is another I got a couple about pricing. If you're ready to answer these yes, all right? When when you buy a license, I'm gonna what's this time in conversation, I could probably squash all these in you get you said, a professional license for that version and that version all the fixes for that version or is it continual up? Good point?
So here's the thing. We don't sell versions. So I have customers occasionally who all collins. They'll say, well, you know, I bought version blah blah blah, and I want to go and you know, download it or what you know, what do I need to do to upgrade it? And the answer is should go to our website, you download what's on the website, you install it, and you're good to go. You may
not, you know, the features. Some of the new features will be disabled if the software maintenances are the new features and support date were prior to when that feature was released or after that feature was leased. But you know, you don't have to. In fact, we don't want you to stay on the same version forever. You're entitled to run any I always say any current or future version. I mean, we're not gonna if someone called and said, Hi, I'm on version you know, six point four something and
I've got this problem that I'm trying to figure out. The first thing the technician is going to do is say, well, here's a link to get to the latest one. So get to the latest one, because there have been a thousand fixes that have gone in over the course of the last ten years, and we fixed a lot of stuff, so it's likely you know, been fixed at that point, so so you'll get the newer versions. But some of the nicer features that that came out after you purchase your license
or your license expired. Might be a little to say licenses don't expire. I'm sorry, now that's okay, because that comes up a lot. Licenses don't expire. So what happens is is that for your first purchase you get, you're you're entitled to unlimited support for a year, and you're entitled to all the features that we release through that twelve month period. And then if
you've got what you need, you're good to go. But what I want to be able to do is offer up some features that will compare el to want to get on software maintenance and support again, so you're basically buying you're basically buying a support license for a year. When you quote renew, yeah, well it's not a support I want to you know, some people will say, I'm going to go and renew my support. Perfect, But I understand that when you're renewing, you're renewing new features and support. So it's
both things. Some people may not need support, but they might want the features. Some people may you know, not want the features, but they want support. That option is there. There's no required payment. You know,
it's we're never going to do you know, required payments. We're never going to sell it as a subscription, but we do have fifty percent of our customers buy the renewals every year because they either want the support, they want the new features, or they want to support what we're doing because it's you know, we don't charge for fixes. Fixes are free, but it
does help support the development of the product going on going forward. Nope, cool, cool, So will the license transfer computer A dies and I need I want to install it on computer B now, yeah, good question. Yes it does. And you're entitled to run it on five computers simultaneously.
Wow, so you're not you're not stuck with just one computer. In fact, if you're running remote, we've got clubs that are you know, multi station clubs, and they network the database and you know, you get real time updates if you're sitting at another desk and someone puts something in the log it's pretty cool. But now you can have up to five simultaneously. And if you find it, you know one of them that you activated, you know you've decided to throw it away, Well you can throw it away and
you know, deactivate that license and put it on a different machine. Do you have a archive of old versions of the software, So I knowed version five point three two worked well on this particular computer, and I need to go back and reinstall that particular version. We really don't because, you know, and the reason why is it we've just never really seen. And I'm going to share my screen here for a bit because right now what I'm what I'm doing is that I've got decodes coming in from w S j t X
into HRD alerts. So every fifteen seconds you'll see a bunch of additional decodes coming in while we while we talk. But awesome, and I may go and try to work somebody here in a minute. We'll see. But oh, by the way, if you're on eighteen one hundred and you want to call me, you know, I'll work you while we're going. But you know, we don't keep old versions around just because it's hard to have old
conversations. Really, if someone says, you know, doesn't work, you know, on the current version, but it worked on version whatever, we're not probably going to go back to. We do have access to the code going back, but we don't have we don't keep the compiled code laying around so or the you know, executables. We'd rather try to try to figure out what's wrong, you know, in current versions and go back and try to figure out, you know, what was going on before. Stay out
of retail. They will always watch on a particular vision and never let it go. I have a fun question here, are you going to be in Dayton or sorry, Huntsville. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna be. My wife and I will be in Huntsville this year, so Lenny can't go, but my wife and I will be in Huntsville and we may do another show before the end of the year, but we've kind of landed on doing Orlando, Dayton and Huntsville. I'd like to pick up Pacific con ce Pack and
by Selah. I'd like to do those. I wish there was one and maybe I don't know, if you guys go to it might be another one that's good in the in the Northeast or something. But we've never really seen something there that was it was, you know, good for us to go. There's one up there called near Fest, New England, near New England
Amateur Radio was that beer Fest? Yeah, almost year Fest. And I know that Steve good Game K five Ata from al l They were up there and I think if al roges that means it's a fairly decent sized show. So I've never been to that show, but yeah, New England Amateur Radio Fest is supposed to be a good one up there. I don't know what
else is up there. There's a brand new one spinning up next year in southern Utah for the Rocky Mountain Division Convention, and they're calling it something Zion, something Ham Radio Zion because I think that's the name of the town it's in, and several of us are talking about going to that one because it's going to be a brand new show, so we're hoping that it kind of takes off as well. So cool. I have a question here from Mike.
He's talking about well Ham Radio Alert log or confirm contacts on qr Z using their w SI for confirmation. Yeah, so you can. You can automatically upload to qr set from Ham ray de lux, so if I wanted to, I'm not exactly sure which of these I've uploaded, but you can basically select them, come down to file, cure set and upload. I'm not going to do it because I usually go back and look at which ones.
So now I got by the way, Now I got people calling me yeah, yeah, so you know, jobs, just to step off of that for a moment, I'm gonna go over here and look at I'm gonna change this just to the ones that are calling me, and I'm in the process of answering back the first one, which is the French station here, and as that, as that proceeds, then we'll watch it going the log.
But yeah, I'm not I'm not familiar. If there's a download capability, hopefully you can see that this just popped up, So this is gonna log so it goes directly into my log and it does the look up and everything. So as this completes and it stops transmitting, I'm gonna then click on the next one. Maybe I'll go to go to this one. Maybe he's listening to the program, so I'll go ahead and call him next.
I don't know that there's a download capability in thank your z log. If there is, we haven't implemented it, but I've not seen anything about it. But you can definitely upload automatically. Talking about logs here, Jeff and I saw someone else just ask a similar question. If you're running on multiple computers, are they sinking logs with each other? You can do that. You can absolutely do that, and we've got a lot of club stations that
are doing that. If you do that, here's another one finishing up, and I'm gonna click okay and it goes into the log and then I'll go after the next one here. But you can do that. It requires that you do one of two things, and we can help people with this, but it's a little bit of an unusual request because we don't have a lot of multi multi stations. But you either have to share access to an access database or you have to build a sequel server of some sort, you know,
whether it's my sequel or Maria or Microsoft sequel. You have to build that and then create your DSNs on each one of the boxes to get to it. I mean, if if if you, if for anybody to recognize what I just said, they already know how to do it. If you don't, we can help you. But yes, absolutely, are you going to try to make that a little easier on the newer versions. Yeah, you know, like an install button, server version information and go. Yeah.
I mean one of the things that we that we will do in version seven is automated as much of that as possible through a through a wizard, So the wizard would give you the ability to say, you know, is this going to be a single station or multi station, and you know, do you want to do you want to use you know, a log book of the world, or you know, and kind of lead people through the configuration because as it stands right now, the thing that has kind of frustrated
me and a few others is that it's really you have to hunt around within the applications to figure out what to enable in order to get this stuff to work. And I don't want people to have to do that. M okay, okay. So that one by Ronald is an interesting question. You see that, Frank, Yeah, I was gonna I just sent that to you. But Ronald's question here is will versus six dot nine fix the frequency logging from microwave Q sales by the frequency field from an unsigned thirty two bit to
a unsigned sixty four bits. Very frustrating and it's been in the queue for two years now. Yeah, I don't know, well, I don't I don't, you know, I don't recognize the unsigned sixty four to Oh I know what I think I know what that is. And yes, absolutely we've
already tested this now. I think I'm going to read it back because I think what the question really has to do with is that there's a there's a field limitation in the database right now that prevents you from logging frequencies above I want to say, it's like two point four gigga hurts or something like that.
I can't remember, but that's fixed. We've already done that, and so that'll be pretty cool because people who've wanted to go and there's new radios that go way above two point four, right and so people are wanting to do that, but yeah, we've already fixed that. Not only that, but one of the problems that's also been fixed is that we have had people say, well, I also want to log the uplink and downlink frequencies,
which is really important for satellite tracking. And this had been done many years ago and somebody broke it. So we've actually updated all of the fields so that they are patible with the latest ad IF standards, and as part of that, both the TX and RX frequencies by the way, I mean, I'm on I'm on eighteen one hundred, by the way, And we've got a few people who've called hopefully I'm able to work on work some of the people in the audience, I'm on eighteen one hundred and my transmit is at
nineteen twenty seven. Are you going to be able to remotely activate? Will you be able to? Sorry, I'm dislexing this. Well, I'd be able to operate my radio remotely with the new version of hand Radio Deluxe. That's the plan. Now, I'm going to hedge a little bit because you can do that right now. But like I said, there are certain aspects of this that aren't as convenient to use. So, for example, you can control the radio remotely, but to set up an audio path you have
to use a third party software like ramod or something like that. So we want to build in the audio path so that people don't have to, you know, install third party programs. But right now, what I'm doing, just to be real honest, is when I operate remotely, I'm using Team Viewer. But yes, you know, I don't I can't say that it will be in the first version of Virgin seven, but it's definitely on the
roadmap. Something we want to make sure that gets done. By the way, let me let me say something about you know, you can you can see in my HRD alert screen as I'm working people like this one here at KF zero IDT or I'll answer this guy because maybe the other person's not answering me back. So if I double click on this, you can't see it, but w s j t X starts transmitting when I double click on something over here, and then I'm looking at the B four column, and under
the B four column. If it's got a red X there, it means that I have not worked that station B four on this band and mode. The ones that are yellow, if you've noticed, as I've worked people, they will automatically go from red x's to yellow yield signs once I've worked them, And if they happen to confirm, then I would see them as green
check marks. So everything in my log as far as countries are, is pretty much confirmed, which is why you see all these why you see all these check marks and green check marks in here, But that's how you get to know whether or not you need it. Not this. It's like the grids and counties and things that show me whether or not I need it. So I do kind of like you chokes q T as your cross platform compiler and able to run your software at Linax and Mac and Windows. Was there
this is a part I I don't know, mulba a lot. Is there a equivalent plugins and things that you can shoe the horn that into the app? That's what I'm told. I mean, I'm not a I'm not a developer, but that's one of the questions that I've asked the developers. These developers, I'm not going to develope who they are. But these developers are best known for developing some very familiar game titles. So they're doing a lot
of the They do development on things that are high volume, fast. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna click on this and then it'll these xes or are these exes go to yield science. But they're doing applications that require a lot of horsepower. And what that's the good news for us is is that it's going to improve the performance of the application. But as I asked the same kind of questions you're asking, Frank, it's absolutely is one of the
desired outcomes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have any experience really if mobile at every job, that's my hardline. I go to this point right right, well, but for me, I'll tell you what and I've had I've never well, I don't want to say i've never written code, but it's been thirty years since i've written code, so nobody wants me to write code at this point. But I understand it well enough. And I see people using these visual tools to build applications for mobile and I'm just thinking,
man, that's really pretty amazing. I don't know how I would ever possibly, you know, do it or stand it. I'm just too old. But you know, even fellows like you could just pick it up right away. Yep. I'm kind of out of questions here other than me and Donn are going back and forth. And Don's wondering about TCI support, which I don't know exactly what it is, but yeah, Don's in every call, you know, somebody's there to ask me about TCI support every single time.
But let me talk generally though, about what we're what we're doing with rig control, And the problem with rig control has been that all the commands for the radio control are in code. So if you want to add a radio, or if you want to fix the thing like the FTDX one on one or problem we were talking about a while ago. It requires a developer to write code to put in, you know, to fix this thing, which is really kind of a major pain. It just causes us to take
forever. So the future on this thing is that all of the configuration files for radios will live outside of code in XML files and we can basically people can contribute radios if they've got radios they want to contribute, and then you can just download them. That's that's the future of that. And so with regards to TCI, that's when TCI will get done is when we actually open
up this thing so you can add radios and parameters remotely. How do you want to say, how or give us the cost of the software license right now? Yeah, it's normally we do specials most of it quite often. Write write this down here, I'll put maybe I can put this up on the screen. We go back to I'm gonna I'm gonna have to move you somewhere. Where are you? Let me stop sharing this. I'm working tons of people. This is good. Thanks for the Qso yeah, yeah,
I've got a good group there. I'm going to move you back over here and I'll show you. Yeah, it's five. Normally it is with a cupon code. I'm about ready to show you you can get a thirty percent discount using Ham Radio two. Oh as your cupon code. Look at that. So you can go to www dot ham Radio Deluxe dot com cupon code Ham Radio two l during check out thirty percent off. That's good for about seven days. Okay, then we will share that in the email list next
week. So I created a short link for it that points to the site that you and I spoke about at lunch the other So the the Yeah, so the short link is what Frank is sharing in the chat. It takes you the same place. I'm gonna try try to because I'm gonna try to share a broader section of my screen and see if that actually works. I don't know if it'll work or not. It's a lot of stuff Don says. If Don says, what if I put tank Radio in the code,
it will delete your operating system if you do that. It's funny, so hopefully, And I don't know, because now I'm sharing the entire screen right So yeah, but you can see pretty much that I've got w s J t X here. I'm presently calling a station HI eight r MQ and I've been doing this all from within him Radio DeLux. But it sends the qso over to here's somebody, come, I work one of these guys. Maybe
they're on the they're listening on the show or something. Oh well, I bear it work him ever finished this one off HI eight r MP in the Dominican Republic. Thank you. So I can see just by looking at you know, when I filter it. I mean, if I'm not filtering it, I'm going to see all the activity that w s j t X is hearing. If I just want to see the cqs, I can do that. If I want to see those who are calling me, I can do it that way. I'm gon try to answer in five BCA and it's small.
It's small on the screen, but I do see what you're doing. Yeah, I mean the reason why I shared it like that is because otherwise you couldn't see w s j t X over here. And if I stopped sharing it and just go back to log book, then it probably is easier to see, right, Yes, yeah, that's easier to see. Yep. Oh, come on, now we got I'm gonna try to call K one r L and see if anybody if anybody's going to answer me back. But some of these, because I switched between screens, I probably didn't get
clicked into them quickly enough. You can, by the way, in case it's not perfectly obvious, you can do FT four Q sixty five, whatever it is you can do in ws JTX, you can do the way I'm doing it right now. Some people will ask, what are you going to add FT eight and FT four into him Radio Deluxe? And the answer is the developers of w s j t X include a Nobel laureate and his PhD is better than my PhD. So they're really smart about how they've licensed this.
And if you're trying to use this and a piece of software that's being sold commercially, then you have to publish your source code, and that's just not going to happen. So that's that's what the problem is there, because it's licensed under the CANO yes, so we're not going to publish our source code with it. So we're looking at other ways, and I'm working with one of the developers on that project to see if we can come up with
a workaround. In other words, if you install w s j t X on your own and it's already there, and we don't include it in our distro. Can you then be able to display it with our application? But you know who's going to keep up with the developers and w S j T X as they keep building off of what they've done, and JT sixty five became FT eight became FT four and Q sixty five, and it's really hard to keep up with them. So let's see if I can answer a few
more. But yeah, that's it's been a lot of fun. It's been a whole lot of fun. Looks like it. Don is asking how do you how does the end user know when to renew? Is there a reminder emails? Or there is that pop up? There is the new version of the application. We'll actually have something up here that will show you and as a reminder, you can come in here to help and license key manager and that will show you your date right here, So I have it set to
my birthday, like you know, when I'm a hundred years old. But that's one way you can that's the easiest way, frankly to find that is to just bring down the help menu to license key Manager and it'll show you. Now we're also going to send you because you know we're a marketing company too, so we're going to send you a reminder within thirty days of when the expiration date and just let you know that you have an option to do
that. We almost always include some sort of a coupon code with that too, so I might be the chat is confirming he has purchased the software. Also, thank you. Another question from a sport I like this one because you're sewing the software now on a super huge and awesome screen that we don't have because we're cheap hams. What is the minimum support for the resolution of your screen for the software? Yeah, you can use it on a you
know, six forty binding me to add him to the thing. Again, you can use it on a sixty by four eighty if you want to, but it's not going to be a lot of fun. I mean, I think, reasonably speaking, you want to you know, ten eighty by seven one hundred, whatever, but ye know that it'll it'll work fine with at least ten eighty wide. Okay, nineteen twenty ten eighty is full HD. I think it's twelve twelve seventy or twelve eighty by seven twenty is whatever they
call it something like that. Yeah, so yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know. I'm like I said, this is a I had two twenty four inch screens and I had them set up and they were all like, you know what you see behind my head. But dragging stuff back and forth just kind of is awkward and so for me because I didn't like setting the screens of different resolutions everything. So I just bought the forty nine and frankly, I want another forty nine above the one. Frank I want to
forty nine above the forty nine eventually. Yeah, it's a good idea. M Okay, Well, we've been going for just over an hour here, and I like this last question. I think this is going to be the last question because I really like that here. Uh no, Gert, Gert Jan sure, I'm sure I'm saying that name incorrectly, so I apologize. How did the name ham Radio Deluxe originate? It's an interesting question, so well, the original author of the software, it's a guy in Europe named
Simon Brown. His call sign at the time he was in he was in Switzerland. His call was HB nine DRV. He since then has moved back to the UK because he's a brit and I think it's g for Eli. I think it's his call. But he's the one that named it, and or you know the folks who were he had a friend who was working with
him on there at the time. From an SEO point of view, it's the greatest thing on the planet because you know, if you if you have a product like Ham Radio two point zero or you know Ham Radio Deluxe or Ham Radio Outlet, or you know Ham Radio something or another, it's it's a real boost for SEO. But that's where it came from. So you're saying, my name's bad Tank Radio. You can tanks Ham Radio takes Ham Radio Radio. That's my email is a tank Ham Radio because someone already had
Tank Radio. M probably a guy who owns a tank I guess channel goal that is my channel goal. Yeah, yeah, last one good, so good. I've worked. So I got the log books set column up here, so I've got these are all set to know and I'm just a highlighted them. They've already gone up to club Log and cure zad Log Andiksel. I'm just gonna highlight them, upload them to the log book of the World and then they're updated and they're done. So if anybody worked me doing it
during the show, your confirmation is waiting for you the world. Yeah, people were asking about that, so that's great, awesome, it's cool. Well, like I said at the beginning, guy, and thank you to
those of you. I know some of you asked some redundant questions and we're not trying to negate that, but but do go watch back and watch the beginning of the stream because as as as all live streams do, you know, there's fewer people watching it at the beginning than there there is right now, so usually the number continues to grow as the hour, hour and a half goes on. So we if you had a question that did not get
answered, we might have answered it earlier on before you joined. But one thing I did say earlier also was that I wanted to bring Mike back on for at least one, maybe two other ideas that I have specifically about how to use hand Radio Deluxe, you know, in a real world scenario. And yeah, man, i'd like to do PODA, I'd like to do something with satellite. You know, well, we'll do something cool like that. I don't know if we go and do a park I don't know if
we can do it live, but maybe we can. You're you're smarter than me at that stuff, but well we can at least record it. But yeah, but but yeah, so but if you guys have have suggestions on what you want to see, I can't get I probably won't be able to get to all of them. But if if if three or four or five of you all send in the same kind of question, idea suggestion about a new show topic, specifically circling around him Radio Deluxe, we will do that.
So it's it's gonna be a it's gonna be a cool thing, and I'm looking forward to seeing the development of all the way up to seven dot. Oh. I'll be happy to install it on on a Lennox laptop I have once that's readily available, just cool, just to say I did it so just so that that'll be kind of fun. Which reminds me, is it is it too robust of a program to run on a Raspberry Pie?
Do you think? Yeah? Probably? I mean I kind of that the memory footprint that it takes exapp I can probably pull it up here, but it's you know, let me actually, so I'm running log book. It's taken up. It's taken where am I? It's taken up about three hundred mega memory there. I don't know how much memory shows up on a Raspberry Pie, but it probably. It also takes up, you know, a disc footprint of about one hundred meg too, So I'm not your Raspberry pie
guy, but it seems like it's a bit thick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. It might run, but but it might be really slow. Let me repeat something that I said earlier, just in case we've had people joining us. You know, I really want to support Jason's channel here. So if if you're one of my customers, thank you, and I'm grateful for your for your business and fore sticking with us, and but also subscribe to Jason channel because he's doing great stuff here. It's a lot
of fun. You know, he's and he's a Texan, so I gotta like that, right, But it's right, Yeah, support the channel. Subscribe awesome, very very cool. Yeah, so run over to Tank Radio and hit that subscribe but yeah, same there, that's right. So all right, Well this has been fantastic. It's some really great information about uh, what's being currently worked on within the company of HRD and what's upcoming and what we can expect to see in new release versions that are coming but not
at a confirmed date yet, which is okay. We just know what's what's going to be there, and Mike will be in Huntsville. So if you guys are watching tonight or are you watching on Team rayplay after this and you're going to Huntsville, go up and thank Mike for coming onto this show because
he's It's always a good information. I talk about this a lot on different videos, I said, because I do some I do research on YouTube about the most popular topics on YouTube specifically for Ham radio, and one of the most searched Ham radio topic on YouTube is ham Radio Antenna. But one of the top five searched topics on ham radio or on YouTube specifically for Ham radio is about Ham Radio logging software and Ham Radio Deluxe is all is usually at
the top of that list. When you if you just type in Ham Radio software logging software into YouTube, you're usually going to get three, four, five, six videos normally about Ham Radio Deluxe. You might get some M one mm stuff and some in three Jeff JP and Poda and Hammers and whatnot, but Ham Radio Deluxe is always going to be and one of those, you know, several of those top spots. So so it's a popular topic. It's one that I want to talk about and dive deeper into in future
episodes. So once again, Mike, thanks for taking the time out tonight. This was a really good show, you bet. And in Huntsville, by the way, we're between Flex Radio and DX Engineering, so that's where you'll find this good good Yeah, go stop by CEO, see Mike at the HRD booth, and then go next door to DX Engineering and buy a DX Commander. So that's my suggestion for us if you're going to Huntsville.
So all right, well this has been a great show. Like I said, I'm gonna let the audience go and you guys put if you if you're catching this on Team Replay and you have a specific question or comment about it, put it do put it in the comments section of the YouTube video and we'll get to it. I do watch all those comments and I try to respond to just about all of them. So well, we'll see you guys
this week sometime. I'm back home for another week or so where we leave for Huntsville and hopefully see most of you in Huntsville as well, so seventy three to all, and thanks for joining us tonight. Bye.