For your seven billion dollars in the ego you call twice that exists. The risk is ninety percent. They are SMEs that generate 80 cis Give me 20 minutes of your time and I, in return, would give you information on the most relevant issues in foreign trade, tax and customs. With a human touch and let' s make a track, a podcast of maga TVs and Mexica Hello. How about a good afternoon, welcome, let' s do a barter, and Dr Carvajalme, it' s nice to see you.
Henry too, I' m so glad to see you guys all over the place. It' s raining terribly. I hope all your cities are well. For example, there are floods everywhere in Tijuana. So I guess right now one of the challenges of transportation too, I guess, is the climate part. Not so today there' s no rush over there. Yesterday it sparked, but today it' s not wonderful here in the south, in Mérida it' s also raining in the north too, but well, this
one still. I think it is also a topic in the challenges of transport, but well, there are also other more important challenges of foreign trade. So today' s barter is the challenges of transportation. With our dear friend, teacher Claudia Sanchez, it is a pleasure to join us to be a welcome barter. It' s so nice to give her so long that we didn' t see each other' s forgiveness, I had to make you mad last time with all the pain. But yes, yes, suddenly compromises
come together. Yes, and with great pleasure we are here to order, for we are delighted that you are here welcome to all the Community. Let ' s barter again to make this exchange of time against knowledge and experiences. And, well, I want to thank everyone who also connects today and to give you the word Claudia, if you' ll allow me, I' ll read your looks. Claudia Sánchez porras is a law teacher with more than
thirty years of experience in the maritime sector by tuario. He has held various positions during his career in the maritime sector, in Mexican maritime transport and in
the port sector in Mexico. In the public sector he held the position of Director General of Ports of the Secretariat of Communications and Transport and at the beginning of the presentation of the administration, which is the one exercised by the Harbour Authority and was later appointed General Director of Trust of Training and Training for the Personnel of National Merchant Marine FIDENA, who administered the Nautical School of Mazatlan,
Veracruz and Tampico. He recently received recognition from the Inter- American Commission on Ports of the Organization of American States sp OAS as an outstanding woman in the
maritime and port sector of the American States, representing Mexico. He currently presides over the Mexican Association of Maritime and Coastal Opportunity Infrastructure, and I think this part is not updated and it is a session with more than fifty- five years of history and the technical session of experts from marine and coastal ports. It has participated in various national and international games on ports, commercial arbitration and women' s empowerment. But, well, talk to us, too,
right now. You' re more on the subject of transportation as well. So also avid until you discuss with us about IT and on this issue so important for foreign trade and logistics the challenges of the road haulage. Thank you very much, Daniel. So, indeed, there updating a little bit is my countenance. From the month of March. Last year I took the General
Directorate of Canacar, which is the National Chamber of Transportation. This one with a new challenge and the truth in a season and in a time of the road haulage where we really have many challenges, many complications, but with pleasure this one invited me to participate the national president, the engineer MiguelÁngel Martínez
Millán, who took the presidency precisely last year in March. So, this one, since all of then, for Acá, we are with great pleasure working precisely on the topics and on the agenda of the transport in this one in these years, since many key congratulations. Thank you very much, Daniela, thank you all very much. How nice to greet Dr Maximo Carvajal, What a taste engineer once again enriched in Here now on this side of the
road haulage. Oy well, go ahead, Daniel Atúdi, you tell us, because, as you know here, right now I give you the word I can give you so that we share the presentation. Not you can share it and in the end, about ten fifteen minutes, in the end we make comments from the panelists and exact questions and answers we share it. We
do put it on and let' s get started. Thank you. The main topic and for what I wanted to do very general, the challenges of freight transport are really not minor and to my surprise, I had been much in the development of the ports, etc, because I see that it is so important also to solve the challenges of the road haulage, because everything is linked to logistic performance, and logistic performance suddenly, like we want to see
a lot of business units as each independent, but we cannot talk about that anymore when we are talking about it was a supply chain. If we go specifically to the road haulage challenges that we have and that are also closely linked with all this international trade, they are also closely linked with the railway operations, because we know that it is a part of the logistics chain. However, in Mexico, the most important thing we have to see is that in
Mexico, because the transport has, it has a very important position. It occupies one east fifty- four percent of Mexico' s operations. Right now, let' s pass that film. It is precisely the transportation of all that is the distribution. But speaking specifically to the logistic performance index and I didn' t want to talk about the transport anymore, because I know you
' re covering all those operations. And I am very concerned that Mexico, in the twenty- three thousand, occupied a position of sixty- six specifically on the subject of logistic performance, when in the eighteen thousand two thousand we were very concerned about the fifty- one position. And that' s the truth. It is this, for it is not to pride us and the worst is that it has come. We' ve been making our situation worse.
The logistic performance index. Look at structural factors of performance and specifically, one of the factors that affect or give the qualifier that they are giving us, because it is related to the infrastructure and also to the capacity of the eruptions by the logistic actors. I mean specifically. We know very well that the eruptions are sometimes precisely in the customs area, in the type of equipment,
sometimes they are in the ports because of an oversaturation issue. And well, there are many situations that worry us when we talk about eruptions, but that is one of the factors that affect us most when we are talking about the positioning of Mexico in a logistic performance worldwide, which, because, yes, we will have to be working all in them, not only the transport, because it is really something that affects us in the logistic chain. However,
one of the worst evaluated components was also borders. We have seen you are very clear that we have been seeing recently, because all the issues that we bring at the border and also related to the decisions of the governor debuten tiles and which has been very regrettable because, unfortunately, because of political positions on that side, they are greatly affecting the entire supply chain and, above all, the costs for the road haulage are incalculable and, above all,
also all the affectation that generates to the whole part of the supply. If we are going to specifically talk about a competitiveness index and compare ourselves precisely with other countries or we can see very clearly see the position of Singapore, Finland, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, and from there we are already going to Mexico in a sixty- six position, that is, we are very far away, far from being a country where this level of logistic performance has been
qualified. I think that when we started in the FTA, when we talked about the FTA at that time, when we were talking about the opening of Mexico, the commercial opening and the Free Trade Agreement, we talked a lot about the performance to the ports and we assumed a lot that a detonation of
the performance to the ports began. And I do believe because I know that Mexico really has very valuable infrastructure, very valuable, nothing more in the ports, but also on the road issue and on the subject but yes, we have to work a lot, precisely in all the performance, on all the factors that infer in this performance. If we go specifically on the subject of transportation, here we can see in the two thousand twenty- three. Well,
here' s this tip. It' s wrong because he' s twenty- two, but he' d have to say two thousand twenty- three. But the transport, we are talking about moving five hundred forty- eight tons, which represents fifty- six percent of the movement of goods in our country. The maritime sector, we are talking about no twenty- nine percent the railway, the thirteen percent in the air is smaller and, as
we can see, the handling of the goods by road is predominant. Therefore, it is very important to resolve and focus a lot on those, specifically on the subject of transport and on the problem that has specifically talked about infrastructure, which we are talking about that infrastructure is one of the qualifiers that give us those indices, because neither can we say that we do not have roads. We have road runners that go from the North Pacific to the South-
East and are very well connected. I mean, we have a national road network of four hundred and seven kilometers and we have fifteen trunk corridors with a
total length of nineteen zero kilometers. The problem we have is that, unfortunately, the situation that presents precisely everything that is maintenance or development or new road infrastructure is a budget issue and I think we all know very well that the budget issue here in our sector of the Secretariat Infrastructure, Communications and Transport, because yes, it is very regrettable last year that we are seeing how the
budget had been tested, the truth is very regrettable is the amount that is allocated to the Secretariat for Infrastructure for Communications and Transport, a secretariat that the
truth does have considerable revenues and that does give it a lot. So, unfortunately, if we go specifically to the revision of the sectoral programme and its progress, because speaking of the whole issue of road reconstruction and conservation, because at the beginning we spoke of a private public association that the truth was less in the advances, a periodic conservation of 1, 500 thirty- four kilometers, a routine conservation of eight hundred and forty- four bridges, attention to
forty- five points of conflict and the reconstruction of nine seven kilometers, when we are talking about the fact that we really need much more infrastructure to be able to deal with this competitive road haulage, speaking of the neer Shoren, of this great phenomenon that we have talked about, yes, we definitely need to have better infrastructure, but no more road infrastructure. We also need the maintenance of these roadways and, above all, nothing more at the federal level,
but also at the state municipal level. With the program of conservation and reconstruction of rural roads and feeders, two thousand one hundred and twenty- two kilometers were served and the aim is to preserve the rural roads in good condition. But the truth is this is not enough to talk about infrastructure. One very important issue that we have here in the road haulage that has not been
resolved is to have safe drivers. You' ve heard it and now we ' re going to get into the issue of insecurity, but we depend a lot on the safe havens and in order to be able to rest, to have rest times where they can take food. And, unfortunately, the hostels that we have today are limited and do not have the classifications that are held in other countries so that they can really be in optimal conditions for the transporters.
A plan that has a good program, that has the secretariat, infrastructure,
communications and transport, if it is not a more conceptual plan. They ' re already working even with an executive project, but, unfortunately, if we don' t have a budget, we can' t be talking about us moving forward in infrastructure, and that' s one of the elementary needs that we have so that we can really talk about how we can deal with all the new shureng and all the demand that we' re going to have in that when we have all that growth of a new shorey and that we
already seeing all the plants that are developing. Certain states are working hard on already have it, we' re not talking about the future. We are that and we, as transporters, are also already asking us precisely to transport everything they are, everything it will provide for those plants. Then the road infrastructure, because we do know that we have those limitations and now we go
to the part of the national harbour system. We do not know very well that we have one hundred and three ports that depend on this one hundred and eighteen ports, fifteen of which are enabled terminals. And I feel three ports. Now, already the asiponas, the apis that we used to tell them the integral harbour administrations. Many of you will remember that before the Navy Secretariat ' s powers for the ports came into office, we were talking about apis.
Now they are asyponas and their ports are very well identified, very well developed, especially when we talk about federal cyponass. State acipons have had very good work. However, this I believe has been a joint effort for many years, both federal and state governments, which have been able to give it a very good detonation. As for the apiphonator, there was only one left and the state apices had. They have very large development projects and the truth
is that much progress has been made in port infrastructure. Today we are talking about competitive ports to the world that receive the most important Christmas in the world. So, as far as the port system is concerned, we have enough infrastructure and we are and really have been working, progress has been seen. The truth. There, as you know, our great Pride. It has always been the Port of Manzanillo that the movement of TEUs. We are talking
about more than three million, the port of Lázaro Cárdenas two million. The Pacific is very strong because of the market it has. We know it' s the market. And the Port of Altamira we are talking about eighty- eight hundred eighty- five thousand TEUs, but also in conjunction with the port of Veracruz, we are making are noticing a great increase also on the Gulf
side. So, as far as port infrastructure is concerned, we do have infrastructure and we also have on the subject of rail, the national rail system does have trunks also for development and, if they are fixed, they are also linked to the operations of the main ports. For the railways to be really competitive, we need them to be more than 300 kilometres long. So this one, well, at the end of the day we have big trunks and be and that makes us much more productive and efficient. Also nuxt ports.
However, well, if we have many challenges, both in the maintenance of the rail system as well as in the part of the road infrastructure. Now, if we talk about this, we' re returning this film, if we' re already talking about the opportunities we have, precisely when we talk about New Shorting, because now we can say Mexico is the number one customer of the trading partner, number one in the United States and Canada. Then the truth is that position you' re putting us as a partner.
It' s something we have to take advantage of. It' s not a political speech about Li Shuorring' s subject. If we have very important data that we have to follow, we have to keep working so that we can really face it and it' s an opportunity that, if we don
' t take it, it' s going to go away. For that we have to work on many issues and we have to talk a lot already about infrastructure issues, productivity issues, efficiency issues, issues that we have with all the human resources, with the economic resources and also with the full support
of state governments, so that we can really continue to work. Now an issue which you know very well and which is very important, because the customs issue, speaking of eruptions and the ability to resolve eruptions, is definitely a fundamental one, because the operation of borders and maritime customs have a fundamental position.
However, that we have very well equipped ports, we have ports with many equipments to be efficient and operational, because the truth is that sometimes we have not been able to have the facilities that we want to have in order to be able to have much more commercial fluidity, many times because of the issue of customs. And, well, we know that a whole subject is
a great subject. The customs issue. I think that in the Marine Secretariat part they are working the NAM we have also had many rapprochements with them. With the whole issue of borders, we know very well that well, there is a cost precisely because of this curve of the transfer of faculties, also from those of the Laga to the Nam Then east, on the northern border side, adding to it the borders, adding also all the issue that we have with the United States and with the Governor of Texas. Well, we
' re getting a little more complicated. So, the truth is that being Mexico in such a privileged possession, unfortunately it is the height that we are suffering precisely all these complications, both at the border and in this as well as in the ports and as in the railways, on the railways and on the roads. Here, for example, we have all cross- border crossings and the truth is nothing more. I' m putting them in the northern
part. The operations carried out at the border are impressive and the only thing we need to have, which, unfortunately, is also affecting us greatly is the migration issue. That policy of review so exhaustive precisely for avoiding the whole issue of migration, because the truth is not helping us and it is not allowing us to be much more efficient to transporters. The carriers are really suffering from endless ranks. You know very well the crisis that we recently had and
that the truth is that we are not here. We are not exempt from the recurrence of this crisis. The crises that we have at borders have been repeated and are of debts, they are really with effects in calculation and, above all, for all the affectation, that is from the goods, from the operators. They suffer a lot, being so many hours without having, unable to eat, unable to rest, sometimes unable to have air conditioning, because they also depend very well on the type of fleet they have. Then.
Yes, this whole border issue has been very difficult and has been working. What it is is just that we are talking about is that the collections that are held both on the border of Nuevo Laredo and in the ports of manzanillos and in the auro cárdenas, because we really do not have all the best conditions, the best conditions, because we could even talk about much more collection. Unfortunately, because we know that the Government is working hard, precisely
on the issue of collection. I, if I wanted to see a little more equipment, many things can be solved with equipment. Many things can be solved with more staff for you to customs. Many things can also be solved with attention to this, so that we can have other longer schedules. And well, there are many things that can be solved. But we do need the will of all of us, because we all have to work together precisely so that both the investors and the government' s private and, above all,
we need to have a public policy of trade facilitation. Mexico has a privileged position and we should be supporting it. Now, we' re going to get into the most difficult subject we have on the road. I believe that you have seen since last week we have been flooded with news, information and interviews, precisely on the issue of security. The issue of security has really come into crudging. At the beginning of the two thousand nineteen. We
' re talking about the number of robberies. We' re talking eleven thousand. Right now. Today these data I have are of two thousand twenty- three, but we are talking August to December. We' ve already gone 13 grand to 13 thousand robberies. Which means 13, 000 robberies. This is where we' re including this one from the common forum. It was federal law, but what it means is thirteen thousand robberies. The truth is
that almost eighty percent of the robberies are violent. So we are talking about an affectation, which we know is that this type of affectation to the victims, because in some cases it is irreversible. So it is very regrettable that we are suffering, if we are talking about car transport being an essential activity so that we can have everything we have in our homes, everything we have in our industries, for imagine that it is regrettable that the roads are already
trapped by crime. So, if it is very much this, if it is very regrettable to see the news and really all this, all this is concentrated in this in ten states, which is where more than ninety percent of the ros is concentrated, which is the most regrettable thing. We don' t have the information. We even know sometimes what schedules you have for what stages. They are the most difficult and, unfortunately, nothing has been done.
There have been rapprochements with the National Guard regarding federal issues, but nothing else depends on the National Guard. It also depends heavily on governments, government states, a lot of municipalities and therefore networks, networks that have grown, networks that are therefore really discovering a large market and, unfortunately, this is on the rise. The most critical and most worrying thing is that, because
they are already disrupting the integration of our operators. It is very unfortunate to see how much violence and even many people lose their lives and if we are going to specifically see what the goods are, what are most stolen, because here we can see and we have heard very well is the subject of hydrocarbons is a minor one. The subject of hydrocarbons is the subject of medicines.
This healing materials and clothing and plastic. There isn' t. We' re at a percentage of seventy- two percent, but that' s where most of it is. Then, in food and groceries, we' re talking about twelve percent, seven percent building materials. As far as spare parts, automotive and electronic products are concerned, six percent and white line. It
' s minor. What we do have to see here is that at the end of the day, all this and all this merchandise that is being stolen, because at the end of the day it is us, it is generating additional costs for entrepreneurs. You know very well that when you have a robbery, you have to go and report it to the Public Prosecutor' s Office the time it takes you and your advisors, and you have external cost advisors,
but it also has a very strong impact on insurance. The companies are paying this, very high premiums for the whole insurance issue, precisely for all the thefts this because hills and unfortunately there are many insurance companies that no longer want to work with the transporters. So, imagine and that you also know very well that this goes to the impact of the final consumer. He doesn
' t even stay on an investor issue. So I think Mexico is going through a very difficult situation and that' s the part we' re trying to push forward. We work with the authorities to deal with the theft of transport. We have participated in national conferences with secretaries of public security, municipal, federal security, prosecution of justice and also for the criminal incidence impunity,
that is, the secretaries of public security. What we have explained to them and also to the National Guard is that it is proven and it is also part of the dogmatic patrol. It is strategic to have patrolling and presence on the roads, as it will definitely help us build safer environments. But nothing
else is that. We already have technology. The National Guard recently began to be operative in a section that was very dangerous in Veracruz, in peaks of drone abuse and it was possible to lower the incidences and, well, at the end of the day, it is proven that to the extent that we have so much more patrolling as also the use of technology, we can reduce the incidence. No. Another issue that is very important is the issue of
impunity. Sometimes everything gets denounced, but we can' t talk about having important results in impunity and corruption. That is why it is very important that we, as the House, always be working behind the legislators, because to try to improve the situation we have is not easy and sometimes, because unfortunately, we do not have the rasuns we want, because they do not have the necessary elements, neither the national guard nor the prosecutors have all the life
for all the workload they have. But yes, it is very important that we work and, above all, that we are starting right now. Speaking of a new national development plan, yes, it would have to be one
of the tops of the national development agenda. The fight against impunity, the fight against corruption and, above all, insecurity on the roads is unsustainable and it is true that many carriers are on the verge of operational collapse, for costs, for impacts and that the truth is that we do not see how
this can be solved. If we are going to talk about violence, because what it generates, because the separators no longer want to work on this, then today we are talking about a deficit of fifty- four zero or pear, that is, up to two thousand twenty- two. And still in two thousand twenty- three we are already talking about fifty- six zero operators.
Imagine just having and having an index of operators. What does that mean comes out to me Someone says it' s very easy of all the stationary units that have carriers and units that could be moving, moving goods and that can' t because we don' t have trained operators. And to that you add that you train them to have skills and, unfortunately, they have an incidence of robbery with violence, because they do not care. You' re missing a lot of interest in this guy, in this one, I
call myself I don' t like to talk about in this trade. It ' s a specialization. The carrier has a specialization. It is not a trade, because the truth is very specialized and requires much, many years of experience so that they can really work with all these, with all these trucks that are huge and that have any amount of responsibility in their hands. Then, Mexico offers a unique geographical combination of skilled labour, trade agreements and an
ecosystem that makes it attractive for the arrival of foreign direct investment. The biggest problem we have is that we cannot give legal certainty and, especially if we are talking about legal uncertainty, but also the issue of security, it is
very difficult for us to achieve the investments that Mexico itself is raising. We are talking about forty- six million pesos in the next five years and there are plants that we already have identified, that are already working and in many, especially in the same areas where the ten most important states are located, where the thefts are detected. So, if we have to work on this because and above all, in recovering our roads, a part of the national
strategy. When this administration, the national public security strategy, was started, there was precisely talk of recovering the roads, and I honestly believe that under these conditions we cannot talk about their recovery. On the contrary, it is not losing much credibility in certain sections and, well, nothing else. We are talking about the transporter ourselves when we want to go on vacation, because it is already difficult and it is already worrying that people go out with fear
already precisely to visit their relatives or to have a vacation. Not if we ' re talking about the HIMCOP state competitiveness index or we really need to, apart from all those needs we have, training is elementary. Canakar, yes, is working hard on training, on improving the training niche of operators, because now they are also required with English. They now require it with better levels of study and obviously need to have institutions with regulatory quality. We'
ve got a lot of them. Yes, we have Mexico with training centers two hundred forty- two, but the big problem we have is that you can' t these training centers. We can' t. Many of them lack all educational training. We also need to have manoeuvring yards. We also
need trucks. We also need to have simulator teams so that they can really acquire more experiences and can also overcome their studies and be able to have their diplomas, which need their certifications in order to be able to work then, as one of the other topics, that is, we are already talking about infrastructure and we already said what is the main problem that we have in our infrastructure is not part of the budget. We already talked about security, that
we need a national public policy where we can really be. Speaking of road recuperation. We are already talking about education and the need to prepare our operators and that we have a deficit of fifty- six zero operators, where we could improve them by impelling them and motivating them, but with the situation of
insecurity that we have we will hardly motivate them. We are talking about the importance of logistics that we have in every chain, but we also need to have competitive fleets, competitive fleets where we can have an added value precisely the transport of all these goods. And eye is the index that we have of fleets of average life, for there exist fleets with forty years of average life and it will have to be maximum twenty. It' s very serious.
The index is very high. It' s too high. And part of what we do have to work as a Chamber, is to have that opportunity and what we are working to offer small, micro or small car companies financing programs. We have signed agreements, we are also working on a programme of advice and financial support so that they can also renew their fleets. We know
very well that foreign investment does require efficient and competitive operations. Then the strong investments of state government interventions have indeed become an axis in business and industrial development. But it also depends on them very much supporting us in everything we need. And here comes the most important issue we have right now on the road.
Following the publication of the General Law on Road Safety Mobility, which was in May of the twenty- two years, the states and municipalities had to harmonize their laws and regulations by November of the two thousand twenty- two. Unfortunately, we are already in two thousand twenty- three, two thousand twenty - four, and there has not been much progress in harmonizing the laws and
regulations of the states and municipalities. On the contrary, I will tell you an example, that is, many of those who are not working on it, because they are simply copying from other states or from other municipalities where they are overregulating and beyond privilege mobility, because they are putting themselves, imposing sanctions or fines precisely for this one, to affect the nature of the General Law of motility. This was published in the Official Journal of the two thousand twenty
- two and now. What we are working on is the national mobility strategy that is being published in the Official Journal of October 20, 2000, and the mobility strategy speaks precisely of the importance of both different modes of transport and of transport. That is what we want to concentrate on in order to make progress. In the States, for example, only four entities have shown efforts for harmonization and precisely those four entities are the ones with which we have managed
to align them. And also, but we also have two of which are not in line with the requirements of the General Mobility Act. So, in the case of Aguascalientes, if we are aligned with Naya Ahorita, we are aligned, but in the case of Jalisco, which is such a but so
important state, we have not been able to have even the opposite. We have an issue of regulation there, just like in Yucatár So what has to work Canakar and the truth there yes, we have to participate all and we are all in the regions that we have and with the governments of the states, of the municipalities is to identify which are the areas where we have to reach and get closer in order to have, in order to have better conditions
of mobility at the end of the day. You know very well, being an industry where we need you to be constantly moving, also like the maritime industry, etcetera. Well, we do need to talk to the States that
they are aware that we can have arrangements. But the truth is that we can' t talk about regulation look at legal certainty in the States of Tabasco, in the States of Monterrey and the municipality in new fishing Leon, in monclobar Coahuila are some cases of entities where we are on the regulated, ask for permissions to take steps for unloading trucks and others ask for permits to circulate on limited or restricted routes in times. In others they have regulations to regulate
weights and dimensions. That is to say, if there is already a normative about it, why start being and why try to overregulate and, above all, also have somehow have the possibility of impacting on some kind of taxes. Recently we have a case from nothing, I think you have lived it very well, where the income law is wanting to make a charge on the containers
that precisely transit through the municipality. So yes, it is very delicate, because they do not realize the affection they are giving to the transport and that affectation, because yes, it is definitely an expense to us, the consumers of the goods, because someone transmits it at this cost. And speaking precisely of competitiveness, because look here I' m putting you on the vehicle fleet and it' s important to have a competitive vehicle fleet. Just look at
it. We have to talk about motor units, antiques up to fifty years, fifty years of which we are talking about twenty- one zero units that we have identified. I mean, it' s not possible that we' re talking about this number, a vehicle park of six hundred thirty- two thousand. Then the average seniority this would have to be maximum twenty years. And we' re talking about antiquities that are far more than twenty years old,
that is, doubling seniority. That is why it is very important that you, too, the whole industry, above all, are talking and demanding that the government support us with tax incentives. We talked. We have talked a lot with the estate, we have talked a lot with legislators about the need to have Development Bank support and development maria. What happens to us when we talk about fleet renewal, because they want us to have certain conditions,
the micro and small of this. You know very well when we go to finance what you ask for precisely to guarantee the guarantees you ask for are unattainable. So we cannot talk about progress unless we have the support of development banks. Armours are also playing a very good role. They' re also trying to place funding precisely. But also, the issue that is once again recurring
is the issue of guarantees and the ability of carriers to finance. No, then this is something that we are working on and we are encouraging the purchase of vehicles, also of vehicles already we are talking already free of emissions and we believe that this is another time that we will have very soon. But if we' re not even getting rid of an important part of the vehicle fleet, then it' s not going to be possible to talk about clean energy in the car so easily. What' s more important in all this
and the road haulage. I think that everyone, from our courts, we are living it, because having an interaction with the authorities the customs part is very important, and more when we are talking about the logistic performance, because we are very qualified by the irruption and I do not want to blame it precisely customs. But we know very well the whole history that exists precisely and all the problems that have occurred both at the border and in ports and in
those years, what are years with these problems. So, I think that as long as we can provide our experiences and it is important that we continue to work on the whole legislative liaison issue, it is determined and even more so now that we are talking about harmonizing the general mobility law with other states. That' s super important. Now the issue of security is no less, but it is nothing more security at the national guard level, at the
secretariat level. We also need to build upon the governments of States. This is this wave of violence we' re having, we all have to participate. There is nothing more to be left with one authority, because we really already have governments of the states and municipalities here. So, as long as we work together, we' re going to be able to make progress.
The Secretariat for Infrastructure, Communications and Transport has asked us the Secretary to have a work plan and an agenda, which I think is wonderful, because he is noting that he has an interest in really giving continuity to all the projects we bring, and I believe that we are working at the level of associations, chambers, businesses to have a job ready and I suggest that also in their ranks, especially on the subject of everything, the customs, that we
already have very well identified topics, to put them on the agenda of the next administration. And above all, it is well known that the day you arrive at a new administration, the first thing you have obligations and commitments that you have is to generate a sectoral plan. If we have an issue in the sectoral plan that if we have already done, the task is going to be easier for them to put our issues on the agenda, but for that we are working hard and all teamed up now for the Mexican oil side.
There we have a team, a group of tankers in service of Pemex, who have also suffered a great deal and we know very well that it is related to the theft of hydrocarbon. The truth is that I would love to tell you those horror stories that we are seeing, that it is not a topic for this forum, but it is also not a topic that has been
appropriate to tell them. But it does frustrate very much to see that suddenly we cannot have lower rates on the issue of security and that the actions of those precisely of violence and of affectations to passers- by and also to road users are becoming more and more encrusted. So yes, it is important that we continue to work together with the Authority and we have many actions to improve
competitiveness, which is related to the Crane Regulation, to official standards. And what I would like to reach is directly to the conclusions the public policies on mobility, on economic matters, on environmental matters and on trade are decisive so that we can really talk about Mexico remaining a trade ally of the United States and Canada, that our Treaty of free good temach remains functional and that we can really have to take advantage of the situation that we have in our strategic
position on the issue of security. Is it impermissible? Is it impermissible? The situation we have and are really about to collapse. You know very well that we are talking about unemployment. They are no longer stoppages that one prefers, that one wants to have a political position to privilege us or to achieve some specific act. Not that level anymore. Camera, the operators are already
desperate, they' re already talking about parso. It would affect everyone in the area of infrastructure, because we do know what the port, customs, road and rail needs are, and above all, maintenance. And then, in the formation of talent. That' s where we have to act. A standards, modernise development plans and create innovation centres. There are a lot of technology issues coming up and nothing else for the topic of transportation, but
also for the whole subject of the East, of training. So we think there are a lot of things to do, but we do have a very difficult situation on the road haulage issue. This is the part of the presentation and thank you very much. We' re open to questions. Thank you very much, Master Claudia. Well, let' s start the questions. Remember to put them in the chat And well, we have a first question that John asks us here, and he tells us regarding the letter Give us
what has been the position before Kanakar' s sat. Look at our Canakar stance. That' s a good question, and I really appreciate it. The position of Canakar at first was very difficult. This one I can' t see see I' d like to settle in. Let me go, I want to go back to the screen now. How I do it. Allow me now I' m fine with you. I' m sorry. Close the presentation. We have to close down the prescir yes, yes. I sent for you to stop sharing now. What I' m doing is
trying. It' s just that they changed my computer, right now, that' s it, jesus That' s it. Thank you. Letter input yes, yes, yes. We saw at first it took a lot of work to accept the subject cartaporte. Yeah. I have to tell you. Like your carrier two years ago. I understand you do. It was very difficult. However, from days the years to here and most of the carriers are already ready with the cartaport. However, for our surprise. We
also see that much remains to be done on the subject of training. There are carriers from this, especially truck men, who still lack it is much development, much understanding and that the truth are not so clear and they have asked us questions of hear apology and is ready the letter porte will be, there will be extension already. And they think he' s gonna have extended it. On the subject of cartaport. There' s not going to be
any proga in cartaporte anymore. We are talking about extensions to sanctions, not the application of sanctions. So what did he want to change? We started to develop a platform, a platform where all those who are not ready can offer them the CFD ringing service. And the truth is, we' re fair. On Friday we made the announcement to launch this platform, which is going to start operating on February 1st and that we believe is a very good
solution for carriers. At the same time, we are giving you this training courses, as this is precisely the whole theme of workshops, from updating, from how you make a good ring, personalized workshops to companies, personalized workshops
to webinars groups. We have been very busy precisely on this subject and we have started since last semester, the last semester of the two thousand twenty- three, and Ahorita, yes, we are very happy because we already have this one about to start operations with the platform of this platform that is going to offer the project is called with Kanakar meets and then we are inviting all the carriers and non- carriers that require to do, let' s say
not affiliated rather of Kanakar, what they want to do the ringing. So, here we are very happy right now about to start this project and we think it will be a solution for several interesting project. Thank you very much. Well, right now we' re going to open the microphone to the panelists. Which one of you wishes to initiate forward the maximum doctor. Okay. First of all, teacher a great congratulations. What a subject he gave
us today. I' d say extraordinary, but terrifying. Terrific. Teacher yes, yes, yes, it is exhilarating what is happening and I read today precisely that they are having a problem, precisely cashing out not them, not the association, but the transport, in the lack already of Fedeférez, if they are prefering to go to the United States because of the lack of
security in our country. Yes, and you are, as they say, the finger in the wound and I loved the presentation because it truly reflects the problem that we live in one sector, but that is the same throughout the country. The authorities have identified the problems, as well as you throughout the centre of the country, in those ten States it is where it is visualized.
Yes, in all other matters, we know, unfortunately, the authorities where, but we remain passive and continue to allow crime in all its phases to continue to run us over, continue killing, continue stealing and continue to create a climate of insecurity throughout the country. I really am happy, because this magnified all the services, all the production, everything that is happening in this Mexico, which, unfortunately, we are seeing that it is becoming a
failed state. It' s becoming a failed state. Unfortunately, it is not possible for crime to be the one in large parts, in large parts of our country, when it is the authorities that have to impose the law, because the law is the law and the rule of law and to apply with firm hand the measures that are necessary to rescue what is our country. Thank you, Master. Seeing I loved the presentation, but it leaves me
very bad taste of mouth because I' m defatted with reality. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, José Manuel, thank you
very much, since teacher double congratulations. First because of your appointment as Director General of Canaka, and I join the words of Dr Maximo Carvajal, because the topics you provide us with, the information, the clarification, the update, very interesting and also the concern that we have to me I would like that if you would do us favor to abound in some way and you already said it in part of your presentation, but your program, because this year
two thousand twenty- four seems to me to have this peculiar characteristic that the candidates, the candidate could listen to us with our problems, because we have many. You already said it and what your program would be in that sense to present the two candidates, the candidate of the citizen movement and then the other. We' d say your opinion or your version. Today we' re dawning with Santis, the Governor of Florida, getting out of this presidential
race and then the truth. I have the impression that the four years of the Trump administration were not the best for Mexico and it seems that the interlocution that the organizations had, on the one hand, and, on the other,
the candidates the presidential candid data of Mexico, become relevant. So let ' s talk a little bit about your Canakar project towards them and then your vision of because I don' t know expectations or areas of opportunity before the eventuality that this story that we are always told in America, is a Democrat and the next Republican period. And that is how it has happened in 150 years. It' s more, not then that you told us about it.
Thank you very much, thank you very much. Well, then, with regard to the work plan, that is, if there are some very, very basic and very important points for us, it is precisely the subject and we have repeated it a lot in the forums. The national president of
Canakar is very concerned about the renewal of the fleet. If we need competitive fleet, that separates fleet that already complies with all the normivity of dimensions and that already has another type of technology also to face all the normative requirements.
That' s a topic. This number one two professionalization of the operators and that entails this, because, being able if you professionalize them, educate them and give them training and opportunities in the companies, because obviously we can fight that deficit of attention. Unfortunately, the issue is nothing more than this, because the one you really tell them is no longer going to improve the security situation. We' re seeing it in everyone who' s flooded with news,
chats, YouTube, networks. All that fills us with precisely hears the transport. I, honestly, you get up and you say out of here today they have to talk about that. I don' t remember that when I was in port the situation in the other transport was so ugly. And right now, because it' s up to us to live this situation with a huge responsibility because look also you go out to talk about insecurity and you know very well that it is very delicate, very delicate an interview that you
are giving for that respect. But you can' t shut up either, and the affiliates are desperate. I know what we' re gonna do then. It is a really difficult situation, but that would be a topic to talk about professionalization for the defis operators, also to talk about safety. But another very important factor. Set There' s a big difference between set and
security. Here on the issue of safety, we already talk about all the life- giving dust that we are having, but also on the issue of your insecurity they notice that much happens everything that is happening on the roads, many accidents and the truth is also very related to a subject of secty has to reinforce the seite and the companies, with the operators and also a lot of the culture, culture that you have to give them and above all a
topic of medicine, that is, culture, protects their health. Sometimes they have very stigmatized them, that is, the operators. They speak very badly of them. Yeah, and it happened to me at a meeting I had there with some authorities in the ports that do, but they arrive. They come with this one because they' re still on drugs, etcetera. I mean, please, no, no, no, no, no. Tell me we know this is new. No, you have to work with them
too to educate them, to change generations. We know it' s very difficult, but yes, it' s a subject, it' s a subject, it' s super important. The issue of road safety, because at the end of the day, here you no longer affect the operator or the goods or the carrier and you are affecting families on the road. And because you know, we' ve seen this accidents to real atrocities that you can' t believe that such horrible accidents have happened, because the truth is
also from speeding, from lack of culture. Then there are many challenges that we have. That' s definitely the four points we want to get into. But apart from all that, we also have to add many administrative issues to improve procedures, also digitize and become more competitive in the subject of replacement. Right now the Secretariat of Infrastructure, Communications and Transport, a very good project, which is the replacement, but they did not authorize the budget.
Just imagine it' s just a retracement where we' re already going to have a reality of how many carriers we have today, we don' t know how many, how many trucks are in operation, I mean, the same authority has an idea, but there' s also a lot of informality. So with this CFE issue, that' s where it' s going to help us a lot. You know very well that right now it' s going to be very difficult for you to avoid issues as much work as
this one. Then they will improve the working conditions of the operators, but we are also obliged to give them much more training and we are also obliged that it actually already makes the operations much more formal. That' s also why it' s important. We also talked a lot about fleet renewal, because as long as we have much more competitive plumbers, we could also have a lot more road safety. So let' s say those the most important issues. And on the subject of the United States, well, we did
have a lot of rapprochement when it was the border closure. The effects were immense. Immensas if we are talking here a set at the time that we are talking about that when you have a truck with merchandise, because we are talking about thirty- two thousand dollars the value imagine when you have, because I don' t know twelve kilometers of this stopped trucks. Not because they ' re doing exhaustive reviews that separate the truth, we know it' s
more political position. That' s what we need to work on getting close to the U S authorities. It' s not easy. You know very
well that their positions are very radical. Indeed, then that is something and through external relations, we often have groups of associations and we are signing Kanac group with also associations of entrepreneurs who have operations in the United States and Ahorita we have scheduled, probably for Washington by March, to have a meeting in Washington with entrepreneurs to see what progress we can have precisely in that tenor and
be more preventive. We do not know that we are not going to be able to avoid it, but to the extent that we can have more prevention and, above all, to perceive when a blow of this size comes, because we are also ready. No. Thank you very much, thank you very much. No. Thank you, José Manuel, Gusto, I' m sorry. I have an important call. I' m going out with an apology and congratulations, again, a hug my dear, Doctor Te Gusto, Greetings. Thanks, thanks, buddy, thanks, sorry. Not until
later, because I think some other question. Guadalupe and engineer Enrique go ahead. Congratulations, Claudia. This is in a very nice position, but it ' s difficult, very difficult. It makes the situation very difficult for me. All this, as you have been a doctor, the operators who are going to the United States because there is more security. I' ll just have a question. How goes the situation of Mexican trucks that can cross to
the United States and transit in the United States. None of that has been fixed yet. Nothing could be fixed yet. We' re still in that situation. We are still following this situation. Work is under way to ensure that this can be done. Of course, that situation. There are many gender issues, many issues we have and little time we have to solve the
truth and we have no room for error. So, of course, we took the distraction just in March and this, well, right now a topic that has had us flips of heads, the CFD theme and no, and fortunately, already yes and they are subjects that cannot leave for later the truth are subjects that you can say well then, and this one right now, we feel very happy and very calm that we are already offering this. But, right now, we have a list of agendas, a very full agenda
regarding all the workshops we have to give. So this one' s going to be very interesting. Everything is scratched this first quarter, but well, we' ll have to be there on the line, because many congratulations, Claudia, very lucky and have all the support of the world. Thank you.
Very interesting if we are left with vigo things that we have seen, that we have known that it has touched us when we come down the road all of a sudden and we see that endless end of trailers that you say, son, how much, how they are going Yes, they must protect between them. There is no other, not against insecurity. Not all that, then, congratulations and I wish you much luck your management, many all that you are doing and it is the support that we can give you.
We' re with you, of course. Thank you so much. So long, thank you, thank you all very much. Thank you very much for this very interesting intervention, so important also for the whole sector. And, well, we want to give you the next recon. Let' s barter and tels Magas in Mexico give the present recognition to the teacher Claudia Cintia Sánchez porras for bartering in the virtual conversation with the theme to the challenges of
the transport. On the 22nd of January, two thousand twenty- four was signed by our President, Dr Octavio de la Torre and teacher Daniela Martínez, who left me in charge to give him this recognition, because thank you very much and very lucky in his management. Thank you very much. Please say hello to Don Octavio, tell him to thank you all. How nice to greet you again a hug until equally good afternoon to all and we leave you here the calendar. Hopefully, they' ll continue to connect as usual.
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