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Leadership Author Series: Keith "Flip" Griffin

Jan 17, 202523 min
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Summary
In this episode of Hacking Your Leadership, Flip Griffin discusses the essential elements of effective leadership, focusing on core beliefs, abilities, and applications. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, honesty, and transparency in leadership and the need for adaptability and simplicity in leadership practices. The conversation also delves into the concept of 'spam'—the pitfalls that can derail leaders, including issues related to sex, power, alcohol, and money. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights for leaders looking to enhance their effectiveness and navigate challenges in their roles.

Takeaways
Leadership starts from within. Honesty, consistency, and transparency build trust. Self-awareness is crucial for effective leadership. Adaptability is essential in today's changing environment. Simplicity in leadership can enhance effectiveness. Leaders must understand their authority and empower others. Recognizing the importance of core beliefs is foundational. Every leader is a servant leader. The concept of 'spam' highlights common leadership pitfalls. Creating a results-oriented work environment fosters a positive culture.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Partnership
04:23 Core Beliefs of Everyday Leadership
09:51 Core Abilities for Leaders
14:43 Core Applications in Leadership
18:41 Understanding Spam: Leadership Pitfalls

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Transcript

Introduction to Leadership and Partnership

Speaker 1

Hey, everyone, welcome to Hacking Your Leadership, the new series around leadership book authors, something that we have begun here in twenty twenty five and are super excited to continue for the entire year. You know, today we have a very special person, not only somebody who I think is an amazing content creator an author, but somebody who was a part of this partnership with us and The Lion's Guide, and that is Flip. Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2

Flip.

Speaker 1

How you doing.

Speaker 2

Man, It's great to be here again. I'm super excited to kind of to kick this off and to be I'm humbled to be the first one I think of twenty twenty five or one of the first and twenty four year veteran really retired in nineteen, had a lot of leadership experience in a bunch of different ways when I was in and really just wanted to transfer myself

and Dale Walls. I came on board after he had originally founded and we're just Look, the simplified version is that we love to bring value driven leadership content, whether that's with applications, whether that's with you know, podcasts, whether that's with courses. We just we want we want people to be able to do more. Right. We know they listen to you, but we want to we want to

help them. How do we do this where we can we can help and and and elevate their games in in easy ways, right, and and not only that, but you know, simplistic ways that that doesn't need to be you know, drawn out or or you know, necessarily theories are potentially put forward. But that's the Lion's Guid's all about. And we're we're excited to be here with it.

Speaker 1

We'll do it one more time. It's all good, it's all good, good, just me right, it's just want to it's just you, yes, And then right here, I'll do the intro for that, just that piece.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm glad. We're going to be best friends, so you know I'm affords it. By the way, I'm a forceart friendship. I'll tell you a funny story. I'll tell you a funny story after about it. About that, Okay, I'm ready, right.

Speaker 1

Cool, all right, flip. So, for those that maybe didn't tune into the first episode that we had kind of introducing the partnership with Hacking Leadership Allion's Guide, give us the maybe thirty second one minute background about you.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so twenty four year veteran originally born and raised in Buffalo, New York. Really was was living in three different worlds when I was in the Navy. I was I was in both the medical, the aviation, and the special operations some capacity, and learned all these different leadership styles, saw all these different leadership models, and really, you know,

brought that to Lion's Guide afterwards. And now I'm the managing director and we're really just setting off kind of where we're going with it.

Speaker 1

I love that, man, I think it's great, and there's so much to unpack here and talk about, and I really want to jump right into it. So so the everyday leader, right, You've referenced a couple of times it kind of like leadership is for and about everyone, for all different types of things, And I really appreciate how

you've broken this down in the content. So like, let's just start there with kind of the first couple of things from an everyday leadership standpoint, you know, the core beliefs, Like, talk to me about these core beliefs, why they're so important and why you have to start here.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So the two the first two ones that are that are in that are our leadership starts within and giving what you want to gain. And so really what happened was is is about two years after I had retired, I figured I needed some type of a quote right for myself to go what wasn't And so it really that quote ended up, you know, when I got done was you know, ended up being honesty, consistency, and transparency from the top down builds trust, loyalty and respect from

the bottom up. So the first but when I just when I designed the core, the every day letter quor, I had to start from the core, right the where it all, where this leader is coming from. And so you know, leadership starts from then really looks at who you are, because if you don't know who you are, there's no way that you can go out and lead in any capacity. Like you have to figure it out that scared, or you're gonna end up being hollow, right, and then give what you want to gain, which is

Core Beliefs of Everyday Leadership

that other part of this core belief is what are you trying to give to other people? What are you trying to not only get out of them, but knowing that you got to give that first right, like you have to be able to say that, and so the quote enables those two together by kind of really bringing it together, like, look, just be honest, be consistent, be transparent, because you're gonna get that trust, that loyalty and respect that you're looking for, and everybody's gonna kind of be there.

And so the first two in Core Beliefs really did the benchmarks really dive deep into kind of figuring out who you are and then figuring out what you want to get from your leadership experience.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I love that, man, you know, it made me think about the kind of the idea I've read this somewhere about intellectual honesty and that be the antithesis of like fakety and make it. And it's kind of this the idea of like are you willing to be honest with yourself enough to know what are your strengths, what are your opportunities, what are the things that you say but you don't do? And then what are the spaces that you have to like really take that in to

be able to go forward. And I think it's such an important concept. You know, we do so much on the podcast with our with with our one minute hacks and like self reflection, take the time write this down, think about this, how would you do that, how did

you do this? And what could you have done? And so when I hear you talk about these core beliefs and really this being at the foundational element of where you go from here, I think they are so important and I think that they sometimes we can jump over them quickly and we don't spend the time to really consider not only how we show up for each other, but how we show up for ourselves. And then we rarely ever do temperature checks on asking people how am I actually showing up for you?

Speaker 2

You know, we don't.

Speaker 1

We like the surface, We like the tell me I'm doing a good job. We like the give me some feedback to make me feel good. But the real aspect of it is like, what's the impact that I'm having to somebody's life? And is that is that going to drive them?

Speaker 2

You know? Yeah? And to add one little little thing, I think it's it happens all the time and leader that's leadership that you just get so focused on the mission or what you're trying to get done that and the monotony and kind of the everyday thing just just happens that you don't have time to look back or you don't write and so, but knowing from the beginning of who you are and how that translates to everybody else, and then knowing what you really want to get from

your people in that same foundational aspect, I just when I put it together, I just thought it was such an important thing that you had to start with, no matter what, because then no matter where you go, it'll

apply for anything. Right Like this this thing to me, I can look at that core belief and say I can apply that to my children, right Like, if I'm honest, I'm consistent, and I'm transparent with them, right as much as you can be as a parent, Right, then I'm going to get that trust, that loyalty and the respect that we're all trying to write that we're looking for. So it is and Lion's Guide real mantra over it all is just it's it's it's applied throughout life. It's

not just applied at work or at your business. So great points, Thank you, I love it. I love it. Let's move on to core abilities.

Speaker 1

That's kind of the next stop here on on this content.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I needed so I used a total plan word right like, so abilities used over and over again. But I broke it down into three points. So abilities for your core abilities for yourself, core abilities for your team, and then core abilities and I usually put it in air quotes, but for your company, and that could be whatever size. You don't have to be the business owner. You can be the organizational leader kind of for applies.

But really the abilities like for the abilities for yourself, right, observability, responsibility, and accountability, those are all if you think of it as a like a target, those are really going to be at this center of things that you have to work on. Right, I have to work on how I'm observable to my people? Am I there all the time? Do they see me? I have to you know, I have to relate to the responsibility and knowing that I have these things to do? And then the accountability Am

I doing the stuff that I am? And am I holding them to the same point? So that was like the inner circle kind of portion of the abilities. Now when you move to the next string, you end up ending with you know, the core abilities for your team. So now this is the next step out where you look at dependability, where now you're leaning on someone else to do something, and that's that's an ability that you can work on. You're looking at availability right, Like they

say in the NFL. In sports, the best ability is being availability and the same things here right, are you there? Are you present? Are you engaged in what you're doing? And then the last one, and I think it's the most important in the team, is the relatability factor. You're bringing in X amount of people on your team, they all think see the beach ball in a different way. How do you relate the entire thing to make sure that what you're you know that the mission is getting

done and that you're able to do that. So the relatability piece is also it's a lot of the why like why are we here? And you're going, oh, I'm going to show you that you're important because I'm going to relate the you know, the top mission down to what we do down here in our department. And so the team was really the second ring. And then when I got to the company, you know, the air quotes parts,

Core Abilities for Leaders

that was really the biggest one. And I'll tell you that the core abilities for your company were driven a lot off COVID because what we saw it COVID was people who had no idea what to do, how to pivot, how to change, how to adapt, and so adaptability being the first one of saying we have to have our department, our company, whatever, we got to be able to make us small change or adapt to what has just changed.

And if we can't, and so when you can't or when you have something like a like a major thing happened, then you get into the weather ability part where you're like, all right, we got to weather this storm. How are we going to do it? And here's the last piece that most people don't do. They don't then go to sustainability part to go, okay, everything is now changed. What else has to change with it? Is it salaries? Is

it people? Is it right? They don't sustain what they're doing because they were never meant to do it in the first place. But right, but the pivot, the event changed so much that you can lose that. So when you when you when you take all the abilities together, you look at them from the context of you know, the closest to you to the next closest to the outer hole. You really have these abilities that you can you can work on and focus on each one and go, okay,

what do we need to do? So a great example the company one, do we have things in place if if stuff happens, Like a lot of people don't. They just think it's gonna, you know, go that way. And so those are the things I really wanted to find actionable items that a leader could go I can target these things and make sure that I'm doing each one of them well. And that's really what the core abilities were all about. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1

I think as you were talking, I was considering in the last four years, I don't think I've ever heard the terms, you know, adaptability, flexibility, agility, you know, like these are things that really underscored the need for businesses and for leaders to be able to move and to move in a way that is different. That is now the bar of expectation is different from the working force, from the people that work for us, from you know, the communities around us. Like there's just a lot of

things that are being you know, required of change. And that ability to not just make this change, but to sustain the change and then kind of grow from it that you call out is phenomenal. We're going to take a quick break for some sponsors. After we get back, I want to talk about application and specifically, I'm going to ask you about spam. So we'll be right back after a word from our sponsors. All right, Flip, we're back.

I want to talk a little bit about the core applications here and kind of break this part down of the Everyday Leader. But I really want to make sure that we pause for a moment here and we talk about spam. So start where you want, but we're going to take some time to talk about spam.

Speaker 2

Yeah we will, so okay, So if the core beliefs were I'll equate this to the body, right, If the core beliefs are your heart, and the core abilities are cond of your muscles and everything else, the applications. What I didn't want to do when I did this was I didn't want to just give out theories without giving things that people can actually apply and do. Right, So think of that as your tool Your applications are really

your toolbox. And so I always wanted to start with building your foundations because one thing that happens all the time is that you take uh people get people get off their their original north star really easily. I use the example all the time of a pizza shop that's making the best pizza in a town they get said, man, why can't you make kel zones? Why can't you make

an apostos? And then all of a sudden, they're not making the best pizza, but they're making all this other stuff and they've really forgotten they're brilliant on their basics. And I got it from General Maddison and he had kind of really talked about the Marines of you know, every marine, no matter what, is a rifleman. And I thought, you know, your business people need to know that that.

They got to figure remember your core, remember what you're really there for and why you guys are there, because that's that's kind of going to be your north star?

Are that moved into kind of learning your flexibility? So leadership has all these paradoxes, right, like how much time do you spend on the floor as a positive as you know of the of the manufacturing as opposed to not being a micromanager or right, all these different things that you have to be super educated as well as as well as letting your people kind of being empowered to do things on their own. And so that flexibility of just being able to bend to what's happening, right,

like they're never really called out to that effect. And another great one in there is we operate in the gray. Right, we have all these black and white things, but leaders operate in the gray. So being able to be flexible and operate in that gray is super important. I'll leave

Core Applications in Leadership

this span until the end. I'll just cover the other two, so the other ones. The art of simplicity we have innately in leadership. We make it probably more difficult than it needs to be to some degrees, but at the same time we don't take advantage of what other places. A great example is NASA. Right, we could all probably agree that being an astronaut is a very technical requires a lot of intelligence that but you'd be surprised to know that every single thing that they do is simplified

down to a checklist. And I thought to myself, why don't we do that? Why don't we simplify leadership down to be able to use a checklist of even the fact of like, hey, on Fridays, I want to go and make sure that I recognize someone for the good work they do. But that's not written down anywhere. It's a memory item, and I don't want it to be Simplification of stuff is yeah, break it down Barney style in leadership, not just your job, but your leadership portion

of it. And then the last one before we get to spam, is really about people don't understand their authority, nor do they understand about empowering people and allowing those people to lead upwards, right, And so it's a lot about I use two specific words here that I call out. I don't like the word culture, even though I know it's true. I know culture means something. I like to look at what I call ROW, which are results oriented

work environments, and those are small pockets. So if you can change and you could make a small group within your company empowered and that what you'll end up seeing is that every group if they're if they're that way, then the culture just comes naturally on its own and you don't have to push it, right, because nobody wants to hear about culture. We don't talk. It's just something

that does that. So let's get to spam though, because it's one of my favorites, and to be honest with you, it's one that I never saw anywhere ever, Like I don't know that there's a course ouse or that talks it. So spam stands for sex, power, alcohol, and money. And the simplified way is to say that I have not, and I challenge all your listeners and all the viewers

please flip atlianceguide dot com. Go on and tell me if you've found a situation that a leader wasn't taken down by either a sex, something to do with sex, something to do with power, something to do with alcohol or drugs, or something to do with money, because I haven't seen it yet, and they all revolve around that, and so we dive into each one, and really it's not about just calling it out. It's about putting active things in place so that you, as a leader, can be prevented for that.

Speaker 1

Mm hmm, yeah, I love that. I think that there's so much to talk about in there, but I do want to hang on to this point because many times we talk about the things that can be a danger. They can be the place where people get stuck. There's plenty every single person I know can tell you about somebody who's fallen into this trap. And so that you say, well, then, but then how do people still fall in this trap?

Like if everybody knows these other things, well, it's because of what you just said, which is we don't talk about it enough. We don't say that this is a thing, and then we don't share the fact that there are going to be as you rise in your career, as you take on more responsibility, then there are going to be things that you will have access to. There's going to be you know, financial parts of this that maybe

you weren't used to. And these types of new places create the opportunities for one of these four things to show itself. And if you're not prepared for it, if you're not thinking about it, if you're not aware of it, it's really easy to trip and fall into this trap.

Speaker 2

And it does.

Speaker 1

It takes down a lot of people. And again it's hard to say it takes down good leaders because when they do these things, you no longer think of them as a good leader. You're like, oh, they threw all of that away. But up until that point, many times they are really great leaders. And when they when they fall into this trap, people put their head down. They go like, oh, man, that's too bad, you know what I mean, Like, oh that, you know, it's rare that

Understanding Spam: Leadership Pitfalls

it's like they're extremely bad and toxic. And then they do this and we're shocked or we're odd about it. It's usually the other way around. So I appreciate you talk about this a lot.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And I think two points clearing points right. One is that everybody's human. I know we look at leaders and we hold them to a higher standard, but the truth is is we're human and every person's the same. We all put our pants on the same way, and we're all susceptible to it no matter what, right, like, no matter what it is. And so someone when I talk about active right, like, I have those spam can. I know you're our audio listeners can here, but I have a can of spam that sits behind me in

the thing that used to sit on my desk. That thing is from I think it's twenty fifteen. That can is Actually I would never eat it anymore, but people always ask what is it for? And I say it, and just by saying that, they know that I'm aware of those things, I'm still susceptible to them, Like it's not that it's not, but but you you kind of go, it's out there, right, I put it out there to go that and then it's not just that simple thing

did that? And I think the other point to me is is remembering that you're a servant, right, Every leader is servant. It's a servant leader. You're doing what you can for the people that you have the privilege to lead, right And I use the word privilege that the word privilege all the time in that because it is it's a privilege to be a leader and you have expectations

around you that people right. And and what happens when you falter you nailed it right, like, then they become not a good person or they become not a good leader. And the truth is America loves a comeback story too, So it can happen. The human side kicks in and it sometimes is unavoidable. But I think the more you're able to put it out there, like, the more the more wall you have and protections you have from it, right, Like, it has to invade a few levels before it's really

gonna really going to matter. And that again, people don't you said it. People don't talk about that enough because nobody wants to. It's the it's the it's the bad stuff. We don't we don't want to keep it positive. I can keep it positive by telling you that those things are the ones that take us down and and just

knowing it, so it was important. And again real side note, I didn't really how receptive people were going to be to and I thought it was a little bit silly of a thing that I had learned from Amment's work. And people just took off and we're like, oh my god, this is awesome. And I now know of about probably twenty five thirty people with kids a spam on their desk at work and great, it's working. That's all I care about. But it's awesome. Man.

Speaker 1

We'll tell our listeners to subscribers, like where can they find you to get this content, to get more of your content? Where should they be looking to be able to engage with you?

Speaker 2

Yeah. So, Lionsguide dot com is the website that we have too. Right there, you can see a bunch of different things, a little bit more about us, a little bit about what we're doing, and literally you can actually sign up for the academy there as well if you wanted to do that. We're on LinkedIn obviously, we're on LinkedIn and most of the socials. If you just google Lion's Guide, you'll probably find us there and you can always look me up and Keith Griffin on LinkedIn too

as well, and to see that page. So we're we're not hard. If you see the purple and you see the logo of the face, you know you're at the right place.

Speaker 1

That's awesome, man. And if any of you have enjoyed this conversation, which I'm sure many of you have, a part of the partnership that we have with The Lion's Guide is that we're gonna have some additional content. We're gonna talk about the pillars and pitfalls of leadership. I know we talked a little bit about the spam acronym here, but there's more to this and we're gonna have that

in the Lion's Guide Academy. So if you're looking for more content like that, and if you're excited to learn more about the application of these theories and these books, that's where we're going to have our content live. So again, check out linesguide dot com and the academy there. And thank you all for listening and checking out the show and Flip thanks again for coming on and providing some great content and context for our leaders out there listening.

Speaker 2

Awesome. Thank you all.

Speaker 1

Right, y'all have a great day and we'll talk to you all next time.

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