Measuring security awareness proactively.

Guest Zach Schuler of NINJIO joins Dave to discuss measuring the effectiveness of awareness training, Joe's got a story about a school nurse who was scammed with a "Bank of America" Zelle transaction, Dave's story is about a phone scam a therapist received from a local "Sheriff's office," and our Catch of the Day is from Hacking Humans Senior producer Jennifer Eiben about some pricey potatoes and chocolate chip cookies she "ordered."

Links to stories:

• School nurse falls victim to scam targeting Bank of America and Zelle customers
• 'He held me hostage with no gun but with his words': The phone scam gaslighting therapists

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