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The Rookies Keep Coming

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Another week, another MLB debut for the Guardians. Director of Player Development Rob Cerfolio has several pitchers to brag about in this week's Farm Report. Plus, we catch up with Sandy Alomar Jr. to talk about how all three new cathers are settling in. Also, hitting coach Chris Valaika talks about the challenges of hitting in the cold April weather. That's all on this edition of Guardians Weekly with Jim Rosenhaus on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network.

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Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Guardians Radio network. Guardians Weekly is front

to you by Progressive helping Guardians fans save hundreds on car insurance. Hi, every one, Welcome to Guardians Weekly Chamber and house along with you at Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland where the Guardians are playing the Miami Marlins this weekend, unfortunately a postponement on Friday night, but doubleheader Saturday, with a traditional doubleheader beginning with the first pitch of Game one scheduled for three ten, and then

a one forty first pitch on Sunday afternoon to wrap up what is now a two day, three game series with a National League ball club, the Miami Marlins, coming up a little bit later on on our show this week, we will hear from Rob Sortfolio, he's the director of player development for the

Guardians the Farm Report. We'll also hear from Guardians Senior Vice president Bob di Biasio, another edition of at the Ballpark with Bobby d. And we'll check in with former Cleveland Indian and current Guardians broadcaster Pat Tabler, who's joining us this weekend on the radio side and will relift some fun memories with Pat and

just a little bit. But first, in our first segment of the show this week, we had a chance to visit with Sandy Alamar earlier this week and talk base running as well as catching, and with three new catchers on the Guardians roster this season, Sandy says, there's a lot of work to do to get them up to speed with the pitching staff as quickly as possible.

Well, for number one, first of all, we had to understand their bodies and how their body moved and stuff like that and teas they have done in their past, and then we tried to accommodate them according to the way our pitchers pitch. What do we do, how much how much spreen do we throw? Because we are breaking ball pitching st that we do a spin a lot of ball. So I kind of present that to them while

in the off season, how the our pitchers pitching profile is. And then we start adapting to mechanically to how we can help them to do their best to catch those guys. And it seems with keeping three catchers, all three have different skill sets, don't they correct? You know, like you know Son, you know, you know he lost a year, so he was a little behind and many things. His heat mobility was lacking at first in spring training. He's doing a lot better now. Slowly, small games,

but he's doing much better receiving, working under the ball and blocking. I had a rough time at the beginning, but he's kind of understanding how his body is moving, the things he need to do to become a better blocker. Gallaghy pretty much he's always been a defensive catcher. You know, you tend to leave him alone a little bit and just kind of thinker here and there and many things to to get him lower in the ground with a little

bit more hit mobility. But his receiving skills are good. And as long as he worked under the ball and be able to be close to the ground as the ball's coming to four balls in the dirt, he should be fine. And Beloria is probably like a hot He has a lot of upside.

He just doesn't play that much. He has a good bat too. He's he has a you know, like slightly above average arm, and he's always been a catcher, so he's he has his mechanicals right to part and the kid waiting in the wings bow Naylor, you had a chance to work with him in this spring and what are your impressions as he grows into this game. Yeah, Bob was learning so many things last year and this year and spen training with he had a fantastic time and he was working basically kind of

like solidified. He's won the stands. He's pretty much a hybrid catcher. He doesn't do it all the time in one knee. I mean, we're still learning many things about that particular stance about We tend to analyze and look at videos and look at the most efficient way that you can do things for any particular catcher, not just dump stuff for the guy to do the same the same way. So you know, we have a collaboration of people that look at stuff like that. And boll did a good job in the all

season, brought it to spring training and done grateful for it. And all these guys this season are dealing with some new rules that seeming they're making it really tough on catchers. What are you seeing that the challenges for them as they try and control the running games, Well, the challenges are going to be more on the pictures. You know, at the end of the day, the times this is about thresholds. You know, every every picture and

a catcher have a threshold. But start with the with the pictures, and you have to get the catchers a good time to throw out what they're gonna be rushing throws. But um yes, uh, you know, adding up three inches and the limitations of throwing to disengagement and makes it very hard for a catcher even though with a great arm to throw people out. Sandy Alamart joining us and Sandy on the other side of it, you're the first base

coach of the team that has also a great start stealing basis. What do you say, is it just the talent or the rules coming into play too? We really, you know, the rules really help for a guy to be more aggressive. This engagement is the part that I feel. And the distance between bases. Now, so the picture dick state how much of a lead you get. But if a picture doesn't have a good move to first base, you can go out there fifteen feet lead. I mean that'll make

one three to one four on time. So, like I say before, everybody has a threshold on time. Catcher picture combination and the distent the runner have to cover. So the best thing to do for a pictures to have a great move and work in a great move in that way, it's a lot of it's more difficult for the for the runner to the things sail from first base. Sandy has always thanks for the insight. Appreciate it. I

appreciate it. That's Guardians catching instructor and first base coach Sandy Alamar. On the hitting side, Chris Felaka has been working with the hitters, trying to get them going here early in the season. Cold weather has always been a challenge for any season that Cleveland plays, and this year no different than with

that cold weather hanging around. Chris says that his experience as a player now a hitting coach, well, there's a it's a lot more challenging when you're trying to hit good major league pitching and the temperatures are not exactly where you'd like to see them. Yeah, I mean it's uncomfortable for everybody out there,

you know, not not the most enjoyable at bats. But you know, things we talked about in spring training, we talk about with the cold weather, you know, shortening up, choking up on the bat, you know, just continuing to look for hard contact, but you know, the damage is tough to come by, you know, in the weather. Normally these games are are tight, you know, one run, two run games. So you know, the more we can execute, we can play small ball, get guys over, you know, put the ball in play,

make contact, get that guy in. You know, that's kind of the focus for for these tough days. And you come here in these conditions after a nice warm weekend in Washington. Does that make it even tougher? You think, yeah, I mean that's what we signed up for. Though, you know, we know the weather's different in all kinds of places. You know, looking at the forecast, we knew it was gonna be nice in DC, and then coming here the weather was gonna be a little cooler.

So you know, we'll have our meeting today, we'll go over it, kind of go through the game plan. But you know, uh, you know, hopefully look to you know, shorten up a little bit, you know, continue to put the ball in play like we do, you know, looking for hard contact, but you know, not really searching for damage and big swings. Today, Chris said, you look at it these first several weeks of this season. I know it takes a while for a lineup

to gel um. What are you seeing so far? Positives and some challenges so far. Yeah, you know, I think we've seen guys at different points already. You know, in the short, short start to this season. Um, you know, guys have gotten off to pretty good starts. Some guys got off a little colder than than we would have liked. But you know, seeing seeing Josh Bell starting to turn a corner that's been um, you know a positive. Quan has been solid early. You know,

we got to get him back on track. But you know that's that's the way it is early in the season, trying not to put too much stock into it until you know, guys get close to you know, a hundred at bats, you know, with spring combined, so before we really start digging into you know, see what's really going on. You mentioned Josh Bell and he's new to you. How do you get up to speed to help him, especially when he gets off to a slow start like he did.

Yeah, so doing doing a lot of you know background on him, you know when he signed him, having some conversations this winner, you know, trying to build build the relationship through spring training and a little bit of the off season. Um, you know, so kind of just trying to understand how he ticks and then you know, going through through the work, you know, letting him lead a little bit. There are some things that we've we've dug into um a little bit more of late um, you know.

But you turn his baseball card around. You know, at the end of the year you see two sixty with thirty. You know, you know it's going to be there. So you kind of ride the waves and the ups and downs, but try to get him on track as soon as possible. Miles Straw is off to a nice start. Is that a byproduct of some of the work he did in Cleveland in the offseason? Yeah, I think

a big cooters to him. You know, he came to Cleveland, we did some work this winter, and then you know he went back to Florida and you know put the work in himself. So we saw it, you know in spring training him really you know, kind of turning that corner and then you know, getting off to a start like he has is nice. You know, not only for the beginning of the season, but the whole

season. You know, you don't want to dig a hole too deep early um, you know, so love him at the bottom of the lineup like that, turning in around for the top of the lineup. You know, he's been driving in runs, making hard contact. So that was really the biggest point um you know, going into this season, was you know, ramping up that intent, looking for him to take more chances and get his swing off more a hitter. We haven't seen a whole lot of but it's

usually pretty good. Is Will Brennan. And what's impressed you about him as you get to know him, you know, just the trust in his at bats. You know, he goes up there, you see the confidence he has. I think that gives us confidence in the dugout. You know, his ability to hit righty's and lefties has been really good, at least to start this season. I think he's got something like four doubles, you know, right out of the gate. So it's nice to see him driving the

ball, you know, getting those extra basses. But you know he's been a tough out, you know, through and through the first sixteen games. How many layers do you go with today to to survive the dugout? I got three right now, probably a PARKA for the game. Thanks Chris, Thank you. That's Chris Placup Guardians Hitting coach, and stay tuned. We'll have more to come after this time out on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network. Here's the payoff swung and drill the left ance ofa sit down. The

line that'll score Kuan. It goes all the way to the wall and into second with a stand up Arbi double is Josh Bell. My goodness, Corbin pitched him and pays the price. Those are sports sounds, and people have sports so much it makes them pay attention. When I say, drivers who switch and save with Progressive could save hundreds. And we all know how sports fans feel about big saves. See what I did there. Save is also a sports word, So save big when you switch to Progressive. Oh that's

a golf clup. Progressive Casualty insurance company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse back with you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland, where the Guardians will play a double header on Saturday after a rainout on Friday night the Marlins in town a rarity. It has been a while since Cleveland played Miami here in Cleveland, but it'll be a three

ten first pitch for a traditional double header on Saturday afternoon. And we are joined now by our special guest who is going to be filling in on the broadcast this weekend, Pat Tabler, former Cleveland Indian, longtime broadcaster of Major League Baseball for the Toronto Blue Jays and now a part of the Valley Sports Crew and on this weekend part of the Guardians Radio Network. Great to see a Pat, Rosie. It is so good to be here. And finally,

you and I've known each other for how many years? Something molose to that. Yeah, and I've never worked with you, and now I got a chance to work with you. I hope we're still friends after this weekend. Oh we thought it was going to be last night, but boy, it just didn't work out. Now we'll play two this afternoon and it should be a lot of fun. I would think. Is the Guardians trying to get it rolling. They're getting good at these doubleheaders early after last season when

they had a ton Yeah, you know, it's still April. It's Cleveland, it's April. You have to expect these kind of things. We go way back, you know, for the last thirty forty years. You can get sunny and seventy five on one day in thirty and snow the next day. So you just have to make those adjustments and go from there. And you mentioned that, and gosh, you played over at the old place. I don't know if there was a difference whether it was here or the old

place, which was colder. I imagine they were about the same, but was it really mind over matter. On a lot of nights early in the season, I was just having this discussion with Sandy all Alamar before Friday Night's game about the difference between this ballpark in the old ballpark, and we kind of like looked at each other, winked and said, you know what, they didn't have heaters in the dugout back then. It was just freezing down

on that lake. And again you would have snow on some days, you'd have freezing rain on some days in April, and then some days it'd be seventy degrees. But it was It was a lot of fun rehashing that I can laugh about it now with Sandy Earlier this homestad. Some of my favorite stories Rick Manning used to talk about in the fall, when they would line the field for the Browns games. A lot of times the lines were still there and on a flyball to center, he would do a fair catch like

he was a punt returner. I don't know if you if you remember that playing with There are so many stories about the old stadium of things that went wrong. A couple of them that come to mind for me is it was during the football season when when the baseball seasons in the football season overlapped and we were out of town, and they put a tarp across the football part of the stadium. It rained, and they never took the tarp off to

dry the field. So when we came back then on a Monday to play, they pulled the tart back and it was like a quagmire, one hundred yards of quagmire right down the middle of the field that you would literally step in it and you would sync down into your ankles. They had to call the game. I guess so on that one. I remember that. I remember the game that was a call because of the bugs down on the lake.

I remember we got fogged out of a game one night. We were playing the Boston Red Sox and this fall came over the left field wall like I'd never seen before, and you could not see the ball. Roger Clemens was pitching for the Boston Red Sox, and you couldn't see the baseball. That right there scared the heck out of me. But I remember Bobby Bonds going out hitting fly balls to the outfield to see if they could see either get up into the fog, couldn't see it. Game was called maybe about

the fourth or fifth innings. You were no longer with the Indians when this place opened. When you first saw this place, did you think, now, wait a minute, that would have been a nice place to play it. I thought I was born ten years too early for sure. You know. When I played here, we had some pretty decent ball clubs, and

we had some pretty decent ball players. And I always knew that if we had a winner, and we had a stadium that we could call our own, this place would get packed because it's a baseball it's a sports town. Cleveland is a sports town, and unfortunately we were We were had some bad teams too, And I always said, if we got a winning team here and we played in our own ballpark, great things would happen. What is

that four hundred and fifty five consecutive sellouts here? The great teams that came through here I'm not surprised that this has been such a success where this ballpark is and it's still it's great today and now here you are back with the organization again that that you started with. And I know a lot of people were excited when they heard that news initially, and Tabby a great to have you along this weekend. We'll enjoy the games. A bummer that Friday night

was postponed, but they'll play two Saturday and another one on Sunday. What a pitching matchup we're going to have Al Kantara and Bieber. Yes, that's gonna be a lot of fun. Yes it will. And we'll fill you in on the pregame show prior to game one once we know which game that will be. I imagine it will be the opener, but we'll see as the teams were making decisions after the ball game last night, and we'll fill you in on the Guardians warm up when we can. Well, Tabby,

I'll I'll see you on the broadcast. Thanks a lot for coming by Guardians Weekly. Happy. I'm looking forward to teaming it up with you and teeming it up. That is Pat Tabler who's filling in this weekend for Hammy on the radio side. Stay tuned more to come after this on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network. We're going to be here a while today, folks.

Jim Rosen Now's back with you. It's Guardians Weekly. We're in downtown Cleveland at Progressive Field as the Guardians will play the Marlins in a traditional doubleheader on Saturday, starting at three ten in the afternoon for game one, a lot of baseball two for the price of one. If you haven't made plans yet, head on down to the ballpark, the best value in sports, and you can pick up your tickets on the Ballpark app or cle guardians dot com.

Rob Sorfolio is the director of player development for the Cleveland Guardians, and we had a chance to visit with Rob earlier in the week. Man he's finally having that chance to get out and about and see the minor league affiliates, and he says, it's a great time of year to see some of

the younger players in action. Absolutely, it's it's that time of year where the young guys are out competing and try and show what they can do and see them in some game action versus we play against ourselves quite a bit in spring training, So it's nice to see them go head to head and tow them out or the plate with guys in different uniforms, which is which is awesome, And I know our staff really enjoy it being back out there on the road kind of going through the grind. But uh, yeah, it's

it's a fun time of year. Let's start with Columbus, and with some pitching injuries here and and really some other injuries too, it's maybe at this point in the season has been a little bit more busy than than you would expect. Yeah, a little bit, especially early on, you know, with the weather and the new travel schedule, playing all over the place, there's some additional hurdles that are our major league team faces, and in the

minor leagues. We're here to support our major league team and so doing everything we can in Triple A to make sure that we've got guys ready to come up here and compete and help our team win, while also still trying to work towards some of their developmental goals with such young teams across the board for us as a fun dynamic to try and balance. All right, we're one minute in. What about Tanner, Bobby We don't. You can't say when he's coming up. We don't know, but very excited. I'm sure to

see the start that he's off to Tanner byby a good young prospect. Yeah, I wish we had the crystal ball of when that day is going to come. I feel pretty confident that it will come, and at least with Tanner, you know, I think one of the exciting things for you know, the fans that will get to see him at some point or either are seeing him now in Triple A is just the behind the scenes work ethic and knowledge of craft and the way that he kind of is still learning and developing

as a young pitcher. I mean, we've only had him for one full season in our organization, so it's pretty impressive that he's made to Triple A this fast. And so again, like I mentioned, it's how do we

prepare him to come up here and have success. Tito's big thing is it's not about making into the major leagues, about making the major leagues and helping us win, And so that's kind of the mindset we're trying to really hammer out with these guys in Triple A while also making sure that like hey, they know these are their one to two highest leveraged things to keep working on.

And one of the cool things about Vibes is just like his attention to detail and how competitive he is, and our group in Columbus and our coordinator staff that was in there with me this past week's doing a great job of trying to zero in on the things that are going to allow him to have success when he's hopefully out here in a progressive field with the Guardians uniform.

Monsoon. I thought it was interesting too. He's had some great lines and his early starts, but the other night some struggles getting some strike calls it I'm sure he thought were good. I know his teammates did, and the bench did. How did he handle that some adversity there? Yeah, you

know, it was great. Actually joked around with him once he was out of the game and then the next day just of like all these opportunities, our development opportunities and trying to frame that like, yeah, I'm squeeze a

little bit. That's probably gonna happen again, whether you're in Triple A or in the major leagues, Like, there are things that we can learn and take away from those experiences to make you better next time, because that's certainly going to happen again, and it was just great to see him have to work through that. And like I said, our staff was, you know, challenging him with, Okay, what are the takeaways for you both in game or when that happens again, like how can you be better for that

experience next go around? And he did a great job navigating that, and it wasn't his best line and he wasn't overly thrilled about his performance, especially coming off what he did the week prior in Worcester, but great opportunity for him to get pushed and to learn something and hopefully grow from that. Logan Allen. We saw a fair amount of him in spring training as well, and it seems like he's off to a good start on the mound too. He has and you know, I think to la with just how hard he

worked and dedicated he was in the off season. You know, we talked

about him a lot last year. Rosie two of guy absolutely crushed HIGHA in twenty twenty one, dominated double A at the end of that year, did the same thing for the first half of last year and got to triple A and he'd be the first to tell you that, especially early on, like he struggled a little bit more than he ever has as a pro, and there were some things that we thought we could target in the off season that would put him in a position to improve and go out there and succeed.

And to his credit, he put in the work, and I think we're seeing some of that work shine through already with just his velocity and the quality of his stuff and how consistent some of his secondary has been. So another guy like you know, similar to Bobby, that we're really excited about, we think is not a finished product by any means. We got, you know, all of our players, we try and come, you know, instill that mindset if we're never at the finish line, but what are the

things you can do to go from good to great? And Logan's done a tremendous job of digging into the details of those conversations. Now in the pen a little bit different in that you have some veteran arms down there, pictures that we saw who were in major league spring training camp on the minor league deals, and how are they doing to try and get themselves on the radar here if there's a need. Yeah, like you said, it's it's spout

on. It's a little bit different than even especially towards the second half of last year in Columbus, where had some younger guys that are now on the forty men helping out our major league team, and especially different comparing it to some of our other levels where it's mostly all in house players that we drafted or acquired internationally, where we have a handful of guys that are, you know, trying to make a case for a job in the major leagues.

And that's been really fun, both for our younger starters and younger relievers that kind of pick the brains of guys that have more experienced even some major league time, and those guys are really working hard with Cody Bukel and O and D to prepare themselves for an opportunity should have come up onto the position player front with Rob Sortfolio Brian Rokio. We saw him for a day and he did not get a chance to play, but he was up here because of

some entry issues, but also off to a wonderful start at Columbus. Yeah, and he did blame me. I happened to be there the day he came back down, as if I was the reason he came back down. But it was fun. It was fun to see Roque yesterday in Columbus and just hear some of his even though it was only twenty four hours, some

of his takeaways of getting that first call up, which was cool. And yeah, you know, another young another young kid position player that we pushed last year up there at the end of the year and to see him kind of continue to slow the game down and really work on some of like the he's a super talented player, we all know that, and continuing to grow

just as he gets older with the tactical side of the game. And I know that Andy Tracy's talked to him a ton about that and saying with Junior Patanzas on the hitting side, to like really have a plan and an approach and learn some of like the things that veteran players learn with more and more experience. And Rocchio's doing a great job and to you know, dig in

and ask people's thoughts on those things. And yeah, I think we're really excited for what the rest of the year is going to look like for him. I wanted to touch on something that you talked about it. He's in Detroit on Wednesday, and then he's playing in Columbus on Thursday, and maybe it's maybe it's not this, maybe it's not the same anymore. But the years I was in Triple A, you had seventy two hours to come back

and report. I don't know if that's still the case, but it doesn't seem like that's ever on the radar for any of the players who go back

down to Columbus when they're here. And to even add to that, it was a day game on Thursday yesterday, and from what I heard from from Andy Tracy and he called him, I was sitting right next to them, that there was no hesitation that Rokee was in the lineup the next day and was I can't use the word excited to be sent back down to Triple A, but there was not even a second thought that he was going to come

down and play short stuff the next day. And then so we told Trace and he was in the lineup for a twelve or five start yesterday, which

was which was pretty cool. Tyler Freeman is here. Now, have you seen someone get off to or as as hot as stretch as he was on at the time of his call up, Because it seemed like he really got some things going offensively he did, and I think, you know, just the peeling back some of the layers of the onion on that one of like he struggled in spring training a little bit, and you know, some of the things that just like all of our players were pushing them to take that

next step from how do you go from really good minor league or a really good major league or like that gap is It's a really hard thing to do. And with t Free, you know, there were some things, especially on the offensive side of the ball, that the group was really pushing him

towards. And it takes time to gain confidence, and it takes time to gain consistency, and I think we're starting to see some of that, especially that week where he just absolutely went off, and in Willston, there was some some signals that it was starting to show through before that, which is what was really exciting, and then to see him have some performance results behind

that obviously makes it that much easier. And just you know, such a great kid that everyone loves being around and just really works hard every time he has an opportunity, and it's it's always fun to see that hard work really start to pay off, and you know, Hopefully he gets more and more opportunities up here with the big league team to continue to show through. Oh, Brob, I know a lot going on at Columbus. Thanks a lot for the time. Great to see you, and we'll catch up with you

again soon. Yeah. Black, It's good to be back as rops or folio talking about some of the really good young prospects, especially on the pitching side at Triple A Columbus. Stay with us. We'll have our final segment after this time out on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network. Fu I wish I was a better golfer? Or is an odd word to yell? WHOA where do you come from? It's me Flow, and I'm here to grant

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or situations. Welcome back to Guardian's weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you a progressive field in downtown Cleveland, and every now and again we check in with Guardians Senior Vice President Bob de Biasio for another edition of At the Ballpark with Bobby D. The perfectly manicured field, the unmistakable room of a ballpark, hot doctor, and the electricity celebrating another victory. This is at the Ballpark with

Bobby D. Thank you, Hammy. Welcome to at the Ballpark, where we hope you and only our conversations with those involved in the wonderful game of baseball, those who may be behind the scenes, or the colorful personalities who have provided so many exciting moments and memories. Today we are joined by Tom Candiotti, who enjoyed a sixteen year big league career, seven in the Cleveland uniform from nineteen eighty six through nineteen ninety one and then again in nineteen ninety

nine. Candy, thank you for joining us. Bobby de man I am so happy to be here. Anything with the Cleveland Guardians is like just a It's like going back to my youth again. I love it. Well. We enjoyed you and Rosie on the air doing that ball game and spring training. That was like coming home for you, wasn't it. It was.

It was so fun, you know, being able to go down and set you know, give him a hug, you know, see Sandy Alamar one of my teammate, A lot of my teammates, you know, they're so it was It's always good to be kind of around that whole crowd, and it's really amazing how they've kind of stuck together. You know, every time we come into Cleveland play, we'll see I'll see Sandy, and I'll make sure I see Tito and stuff. You know, just ex teammates are always

fun to catch up with. Candy, I did all that come about you being specifically a knuckleball pitcher, Well, well it wasn't an easy route, that's for sure. You know. I had always thrown a knuckleball since I was a kid. It was just one of those things. So I'd played catch my dad. I'd wait for him to get him home from work. You know, I had a couple of gloves out in the front yard, you know, and so before he could even get into the house, you

know, we would play catch. So he had a knuckleball and I tried to do what he did, and it just kind of developed that way. But then once I got into professional baseball, I would just a regular pitcher that would throw an occasional knuckleball. And so one day in spring training. I've been, you know, fairly successful in major leagues as a regular pitcher. I think I was about six and six at that time, but it was probably a lucky six and six. I wasn't I wasn't dominating anybody.

And I was throwing a bullpen to my double a roommate, Bill Schroeder, who now does the color for the Milwaukee Brewers. And Bill had probably already caught about ten bullpins that day, a hot spring training day, and I thought I'd have some fun with him, and I started throwing knuckleballs and I was beating them up, and he was taking them off his mask and off his protector and everything else. And hello and behold, I look behind me,

and who do I see? I see Pat Dobson, a pitching coach sal Bando, who was think a special assistant at that time for the Brewers. And they called me into the office that day and told me that my stuff wasn't good enough. And they didn't know I could throw a knuckleball like

that, and they want me to become a knuckleball pitcher. And so, as a story goes, it's funny was sal because you know, God bless him, you know, he said, look at if I'm hitting against you, I know you can't throw your assball by me, you know, so I'm gonna sit there and look for your best pitch, your curveball, and if I'm looking for it, I'm going to hit it. And I said, why don't we just go grab a bat right now and we'll see how

that a goat plays out. And he goes, oh, no, no, I'm just come on, I'm just trying to you know, Da da dada dah, which is kind of ironic because Chris Bando, his brother, end catching me when I was with Cleveland, and so it just kind of

funny how that all comes around. Well, that it's nineteen eighty six, after winter Ball, you signed a free agent contract with Cleveland, and it's nineteen eighty six, you hadn't thrown many innings in the big leagues, and all of a sudden and eighty six you throw more than two hundred and fifty innings, You win sixteen games, You lead the league with seventeen complete games, and along the way, as you said, you were beating up Chris

Bando, who became your personal catcher. I mean, it was really a storybook season, you know, it was really amazing. I had gone to win a ball, you know, before that season, started to work specifically on a knuckleball. I started throwing it in eighty five in Triple A, and I was getting some success with it. Actually, I was kind of buying into it, but I didn't want to be a knuckleball pitcher. I wanted to be a pitcher that threw a knuckleball, and so that's the way

I kind of approached things a lot like Joe Negro had. So when I got you to Bigly Camped that year, Pat Corrales, who was the manager, he ended up telling me that you'll hurry up, just throw as many knuckleballs as you can, which I did, and then we acquired Phil Negro. Phil became like my pitching coach, and then we just kind of went on from there and then everything just developed. Yeah, let's finish up our segment with that. How awesome was that for you to have Phil Negro as

a teammate. A Hall of fame knuckleballer. As you're recreating your career and then you have fell to Lena. Yeah, I think Phil was forty seven at that time. We played catch every single day. He developed games for us to play. He said it was like playing catch with his brother. Again. Yeah, we would throw knuckleballs from about you know, fifty sixty feet and then you know how many times they turned. We got points for all these different He had all these games. But what it was doing,

it was teaching me how to take spin off the ball. And that's what I loved about that. And so I was able to watch Bill pitch and then because of that, you know, I was able to develop my own game. That was remarkable because from eighty six through ninety one you tossed at least two hundred plus innings every year. So obviously you got out a remarkable

role. And then you get to return in ninety nine. So just because I always loved the fact that guys who played at Cleveland Stadium, who were able to come back at Progressive Field and enjoy the brand new ballpark, there was something special about that. I had one of my most memorable games when I came back, coming into relief for Charles Naggy. Charlie had a rough outing against the Royals. I think give it up like eight runs and like two innings. They called me in the game, and I think I threw

five or six innings out of the bullpen. Gotta win that day. But about after the second inning that I threw, I was getting a standing ovation every time I came off the mound to the dugout, and I didn't want to come out of the game after that, and I told hardgrow, no, this is great. I've never had ovations like this before, so you know, it was an appreciation, I think from the fans for me from

all the previous years. But for me, you know, it brought like a tear to my eye every time, you know, I'd complete that inning and walk off the mound. It was amazing. Well, you were always a fan favorite, Candy, So can't thank you enough for visiting with us today, Bobby anytime, man, thank you for having me as usual. Always fun, my friend, and we hope everyone out there enjoyed our visit

and we look forward to connecting next time at the ballpark. That's at the ballpark with Bobby d and that's going to put a wrap on this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. Thanks, as always going out to Brian Matsey for all of his help and putting together our show each and every week. We will join you next weekend from Boston and Fenway Park as the Guardians will be back

out on the road for a road swing through Boston and New York. Until then, this is Jim Rosenhouse thanking you and reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio at work. Guardians Weekly has been brought to you by Progressive helping Guardians fans save hundreds on car insurance were

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