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GTM Science - A show for GTM and RevOps leaders

Union Square Consultingwww.unionsquareconsulting.com
To us, GTM is both an art and a science. We don't claim to be experts in the "art"—the marketing campaigns, sales messaging, and branding. We ARE experts in the "science"—GTM strategy, process design, growth planning, and RevOps. On GTM Science, we share what we've learned by solving these problems at scale for B2B recurring revenue businesses. We also bring you unfiltered conversations with CROs, private equity investors, and revenue leaders who’ve done it themselves. No silver bullets. Just real talk about what works. Learn more at unionsquareconsulting.com
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Episodes

CRO Stories: Scaling Through Channel Sales with Anthony D'Angelo

Anthony D'Angelo spent 20 years building channel sales organizations before most companies even took the function seriously. He watched it go from "the stepchild of the org" to the engine behind a $610 million exit to Cisco, a unicorn run at Cato Networks, and a win rate that doubled from 25% to over 50% at Unifi. The common thread across all of it wasn't relationships or programs. It was treating channel like a revenue function and running it with the same rigor as direct sales. In this episode...

Apr 17, 20261 hr 9 min

CRO Stories: Capital Allocation Tactics with CMO-Turned-CRO Andrea Kayal

Andrea Kayal kept finding herself doing the CRO's job from the CMO seat. She was already building the revenue strategy, negotiating budgets across departments, and trying to make sense of how marketing, sales, and customer success should work together. So she made the jump. Now at Help Scout, she runs the entire commercial organization with a capital allocator's mindset, treating every dollar like a board-level investment decision. In this episode of CRO Stories, Rachael Bueckert sits down with ...

Apr 10, 202656 min

How ZoomInfo Re-Engineered GTM to Shift Upmarket with James Roth

ZoomInfo had 80% of the Fortune 500 on their platform, but most of those accounts were spending a fraction of what they should have been. Meanwhile, the micro-SMB segment that fueled the growth years was getting harder to retain as free money dried up and startups started closing their doors. Something had to shift. In this episode, Eddie Reynolds sits down with James Roth , CRO of ZoomInfo, to unpack how the company re-engineered its go-to-market from a 50/50 SMB-upmarket split to 70/30 upmarke...

Apr 03, 202659 min

The GTM Diagnostic Framework

Most go-to-market teams know something is broken. The problem is figuring out exactly what, and in what order to fix it. Eddie talks to CROs every day who are overwhelmed, playing whack-a-mole across outbound, pipeline, inbound, and customer success, throwing resources at whatever squeaks loudest. Twelve months later, the same problems are still there. In this episode, Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert walk through the new GTM Ops Diagnostic Framework: a simplified version of the 150+ question...

Mar 27, 20261 hr 6 min

CRO Stories: Scaling, Pivoting, and Leading Through Change with Bridget Winston

Bridget Winston has been a CRO across unified communications SaaS, a stock content marketplace, a membership platform for executive women, and now a vertical SaaS company serving med spas. Some people call that kind of range a liability. Bridget calls it the thing that lets her nail every role—especially in a world where the old playbooks don't work anymore. In this episode of CRO Stories, Rachael Bueckert sits down with Bridget Winston , CRO of Patient Now, for a conversation that covers how sh...

Mar 20, 20261 hr 6 min

The GTM Efficiency Pyramid Framework v3.0

Every CRO wants to implement AI, optimize their funnel, and build advanced analytics. But what happens when the foundation underneath all of that isn't solid? Eddie spent years watching companies layer sophisticated tools on top of broken processes, junk pipeline data, and reps who couldn't agree on what a qualified deal looked like. The results were predictable. Which is why we built the GTM Efficiency Pyramid, a model for determining your GTM Ops maturity level and what needs to be done to bui...

Mar 12, 20261 hr 2 min

The GTM Ops First 90 Days Playbook

New CROs and GTM Ops Leaders, you have 90 days to prove you can do the job. Most new revenue leaders try to fix everything at once: outbound is broken, onboarding is a mess, pipeline is full of zombie deals, and there's pressure to "implement AI." Ninety days later, nothing has changed. In this episode, Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert walk through the operational playbook for making your first 90 days count, whether you're a new CRO or a VP of GTM Ops stepping into a company where everything...

Mar 06, 20261 hr 8 min

How to Drive Real Revenue Through Salesforce

Half of the companies Eddie worked with at Salesforce failed on the platform, and it had nothing to do with the technology. After watching this play out hundreds of times across growth-stage B2B SaaS companies, the pattern was unmistakable: the ones that succeeded had executive leadership that refused to let it fail. The ones that didn't had already checked out before implementation even started. In this episode, Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert unpack what it actually takes to turn your CRM ...

Feb 27, 202654 min

CRO Stories: The Investments and Priorities That Took Owner.com to $60M ARR with Kyle Norton

Kyle Norton helped take Owner.com from $2M to over $60M ARR in three years. The moves that made it possible aren't the ones most revenue leaders would prioritize. From a single AI experiment that boosted win rates by 15 points in one quarter, to counterintuitive bets on team structure and enablement that most companies don't make until it's too late, Kyle's playbook is built on compounding investments that pay off at scale. In this episode of CRO Stories, Rachael Bueckert sits down with Kyle Nor...

Feb 20, 202651 min

How to Optimize Marketing-Generated Revenue

Your marketing engine is generating leads, hitting MQL targets, and sales is following up. So why isn't revenue growing faster? The answer isn't more budget. It's optimization. Most companies skip straight from "it's working" to "let's spend more" without ever asking: which leads are actually worth something, and where are we lighting money on fire? In this episode, Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert break down how to move beyond foundational execution and start turning the knobs on your inboun...

Feb 19, 20261 hr 4 min

CRO Stories: Creating a Culture of Innovation Using AI with Jody Geiger

AI can automate busy work, but it won't automate judgment, empathy, or curiosity—the things that actually win deals. Too many go-to-market teams are chasing speed before trust, buying AI tools hoping they'll fix what's broken instead of understanding the system first. The result? Automation that scales confusion instead of growth. CRO Stories host Rachael Bueckert sits down with Jody Geiger , Co-founder of AI Sales Studio at GTM Shift , to explore what it actually takes to build a culture of inn...

Feb 06, 202639 min

The State of GTM AI with Craig Rosenberg

Two-thirds of B2B teams are using AI in go-to-market, and 85% report seeing a boost. But there's a massive gap between teams just saving time with AI and those seeing actual pipeline and conversion improvements. What separates winners from experimenters? Eddie Reynolds sits down with Craig Rosenberg , Chief Platform Officer at Scale Venture Partners , to break down their State of GTM AI Report and reveal what's actually working and why most companies still aren’t seeing the results they expected...

Jan 30, 202644 min

How to Drive Adoption of Your GTM Processes

You pull the pipeline report and it's chaos: opportunities in the wrong stages, missing qualification data, deals that should have closed months ago just sitting there. The problem isn't your process. It's that nobody's actually following it. Hosts Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert reveal why process adoption is the number one thing companies struggle with in go-to-market, and the exact system to fix it. Drawing from his experience at Salesforce where process discipline was embedded into muscl...

Jan 26, 20261 hr

The ROI of GTM Ops

Most CFOs and exec decision makers ask the wrong question when evaluating go-to-market ops investments. They want to see projected ROI before fixing anything. But when your pipeline is a mess, your baseline numbers are already fiction. Hosts Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert address the question that frustrates Eddie most: "What's the ROI of go-to-market ops?" This episode breaks down why measuring GTM ops ROI is so challenging, and why sometimes you don't need exact numbers to know you're sit...

Jan 17, 202648 min

How to Get Better Visibility into Your Metrics Fast

A $100M B2B SaaS client couldn't tell how many leads or opportunities they generated each month. Their PE firm called us asking for help, but there wasn't time to spend six months building the perfect measurement system. Here's how we helped them. In this solo episode, Eddie Reynolds breaks down how to get visibility into your go-to-market metrics fast while simultaneously building the foundation for long-term growth. Eddie walks through the "quick and dirty" approach our team took, starting wit...

Jan 10, 202641 min

CMO Stories: Building a Microsegmentation Engine with Kathleen Booth

When Kathleen Booth asked a VC operating partner what's actually working in B2B right now, his answer was simple: microsegmentation. Everything else? Not so much. In this episode, our host Rachael Bueckert sits down with Kathleen Booth , former SVP of Marketing at Pavilion, to unpack what that actually means and how to do it without becoming another spam machine. Kathleen shares how Pavilion used AI to not only help create their microsegments, but find highly specific messaging that actually con...

Jan 03, 202647 min

The 9 Step Process for Improving Lead Conversion

Hosts Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert tackle one of the most expensive yet overlooked problems in B2B marketing: most inbound leads never make it into the pipeline. If your marketing team is generating thousands of leads but sales isn't converting them, the problem might not be lead quality—it could be your process. Eddie reveals the two biggest cash burns he sees across go-to-market teams: hand-raiser leads that don't get adequate follow-up, and score-based leads that convert worse than col...

Dec 26, 202554 min

From RevOps to CEO: What RevOps Can Learn to Grow Into the C-Suite with Scott Sutton

What does it take for a RevOps leader to make the jump to CEO? In this episode, Eddie Reynolds sits down with Scott Sutton , CEO of Later and former VP of RevOps at ZoomInfo, to talk about his path from supply chain intern to running a $100M+ PE-backed company—and what he learned about measurement, accountability, and go-to-market strategy along the way. Scott shares why/how he cut 2/3rds of all leads at ZoomInfo (resulting in increased revenue), the strict (but not punitive) policies he uses to...

Dec 19, 202550 min

Measuring CAC Payback by Lead Type/Channel: Put Your Attribution Data to Work

What if one of your marketing channels is secretly printing money while another is burning through cash, but your blended CAC payback metric is hiding what's happening behind both? In this episode, Rachael Bueckert and Eddie Reynolds tackle why measuring CAC payback at the aggregate level is like looking at your financials through foggy glasses. Eddie breaks down why the twelve-month payback threshold matters, how to actually calculate CAC payback for different channels and segments, and why mos...

Dec 12, 20251 hr 4 min

Mastering ICP: Understanding Our Customers Better with Data with Brady Jensen

Brady Jensen and Eddie Reynolds discuss mastering the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) for B2B SaaS companies. They highlight the common issue of overly broad or incorrect ICPs, proposing a methodology for validation through non-sales conversations with prospects. The episode covers tangible ICP criteria, the strategic importance of narrowing focus, and the difficult but necessary decision to say no to customers outside the core ICP to achieve repeatable growth and ensure messaging truly resonates with target buyers. They also redefine competitive intelligence, emphasizing understanding what makes a company competitive rather than just monitoring rivals, and identifying unique differentiation criteria.

Dec 05, 202548 min

Building the Foundation for AI in GTM

Rachael Bueckert and Eddie Reynolds dive into why most AI implementations in go to market fail and what it takes to build AI foundations that actually work. Using Sas's successful AI SDR that outperformed human reps in just 2 weeks as a case study, Eddie breaks down the critical foundational work that most teams skip when jumping straight to AI tools and prompts. Eddie explains why the same elements that make human SDR teams successful are exactly what AI needs to work properly. This includes hy...

Dec 01, 202556 min

CRO Stories: How Datarails Grew 90% in New Sales YoY with Aviv Canaani

When Forbes compares your company to the Salesforce of your industry without you even pitching them, you're doing something extraordinary with your brand and go-to-market strategy. Host Rachael Bueckert sits down with Aviv Canaani , CRO/CMO of Datarails to uncover how he did it, helping Datarails grow 90% in new sales YoY in the process. In this episode, Aviv reveals the counterintuitive journey from marketing leader to revenue chief, sharing how Datarails flipped from 95% outbound to 95% inboun...

Nov 21, 202554 min

What It Really Costs to Grow: Benchmarking GTM Efficiency

Hosts Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert discuss a metric that most CROs overlook until it's too late: the Go-to-Market Efficiency Ratio. Why do revenue leaders who crush their numbers still get replaced? The answer lies in understanding what it actually costs to grow, not just whether you're growing. In this episode, Eddie breaks down the GTM Efficiency Ratio pioneered by David Spitz, exploring why traditional metrics like CAC Payback and LTV:CAC fall short of telling the full story. From anal...

Nov 18, 202552 min

The Best Use Cases for AI in GTM

Hosts Eddie Reynolds and Rachael Bueckert discuss the most effective AI applications for go-to-market teams. Eddie shares candid insights from Union Square Consulting's experience implementing AI across sales, marketing, and customer success, emphasizing that successful AI adoption requires the same foundational elements that make human-driven processes work. The conversation explores specific AI use cases that are delivering real results, from automated account research and personalized outboun...

Nov 08, 202559 min

How to Get Quick Hits in GTM Ops and RevOps

How do we show fast progress in GTM Ops and RevOps without waiting on a 12-month roadmap? Eddie shares the exact frameworks Union Square Consulting uses to help clients achieve results within as little as 3 months (including how one of our clients saw a lead-to-won conversion rate lift of 0.2% to 5% in just months). The conversation centers on two core tools - the Go to Market Efficiency Pyramid and the Go to Market Decision Tree - that help revenue leaders focus their efforts where they'll have...

Oct 31, 20251 hr 3 min

Why Your MQLs Aren't Converting

We recently talked with a CMO at a $100 million company whose leads weren't converting, despite having quality inbound interest. The cause? It always boils down to two main problems. And this story isn't unique -- it repeats across organizations of all sizes. The two problems also repeat. Eddie breaks down the core diagnosis framework he uses with clients to solve the issue. He also walks through a detailed case study where implementing these fixes resulted in a 2500% increase in lead to closed ...

Oct 17, 202550 min

The Unblended Funnel: Why Targets Get Missed when Dashboards Look Great

Hosts Rachael Bueckert and Eddie Reynolds tackle one of the most deceptive problems in B2B revenue operations: why marketing dashboards can look stellar while revenue targets consistently get missed. Together, they introduce the concept of the "unblended funnel" as the solution. Eddie breaks down how blending all leads together creates dangerous blind spots, using examples like hand-raiser leads versus webinar attendees that convert at vastly different rates. He explains how this same problem ex...

Oct 10, 202551 min

The GTM Ops Decision Tree

How do you figure out which part of the business needs the most attention? How do you prioritize projects in GTM improvement with confidence? These are the questions we sought to answer when developing the GTM Ops Decision Tree. With this model in mind, revenue leaders can ask the right questions to determine where to focus their attention for the highest, most immediate reward possible. The decision tree starts with a fundamental choice between focusing on new business or net revenue retention,...

Sep 25, 202545 min

The Pipeline Management Framework: How to Close More of the Deals You’re Already Working

In this episode of GTM Science, Union Square Consulting Marketing Manager Rachael Bueckert and founder/CEO Eddie Reynolds explore the common challenges and transformative opportunities around building a disciplined sales pipeline. Eddie draws on his extensive experience in sales leadership and consulting to explain why many organizations get stuck with messy pipelines full of stale or unqualified deals. The conversation debunks the myth that simply generating more leads is the answer, highlighti...

Aug 26, 20251 hr 19 min

The AI-Powered 10x AE with Hayes Davis

In this episode of GTM Science, Union Square Consulting Founder and CEO Eddie Reynolds chats with CEO of Gradient Works Hayes Davis about the intriguing possibility of having a mid-market AE produce $10 million in revenue. Eddie and Hayes discuss key areas where AI can dramatically enhance sales efficiency, including identifying qualified accounts and optimizing sales processes. They explore scenarios for increasing sales activity, boosting deal sizes, and improving opportunity conversion rates....

Aug 11, 202551 min
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