739: The Thin Black Line

A weekly talk show where we discuss the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame. I'm Jason DeFilippo. Uh I'm Brian Schulweister. I like that little pause there, Jason, as if you're weary of the world and everything we're about to discuss. Well, that's every show we have, Brian. So what's your point? What's your point? That's a good that's a good point. Um you know, in in happier news, uh uh winter is over.

Spring training is done. The boys of summer are back playing again. It was opening day for baseball yesterday. It is currently twenty four degrees Fahrenheit here. It is supposed to snow again next week. So what? I don't know.

But baseball is back and I enjoy having it on in the background. It is very soothing to me throughout the day and of course my Dodgers. But I I did want to make a a quick note if you are a baseball fan or just even a casual enjoyer of the game and happen to be a T Mobile subscriber in the US. Uh T Mobile gives you a full year of the MLB app for free if you're a T Mobile customer.

Under a lot of caveats, like you have to be a certain level of their customer. And of course all the other caveats that go with the MLB app, which is no post series games. And whenever they decide to give a game to Amazon or Apple or Netflix or Hulu or QuiBee or whoever that they wanna decide to give a game to and you don't yes, and you don't get that game. But in general, if you're a T Mobile customer Redeem it, you get it for free. It's nice.

Okay, for the four games that you do get to watch on T Mobile it's worth it. Pretty much, yeah. Uh we have some follow up. Uh we've been talking about polymarket and how it's basically going to become a death trap for people. And maybe betting on everything isn't a good idea, but uh maybe they're kinda sort of agreeing. They've announced that they're going to take insider trading more seriously, as opposed to the not seriously at all as they have been taking it.

Right. It was a feature, not a bug before. At CNN's latest press release, the prediction market updated its market integrity rules, specifying those concerning insider training and market manipulation. Uh, it's nice to think that they're taking the initiative to update its rules, but it's likely a response to the rise in suspicious bets, whether it's about the US capture of Nicholas Madura.

Or the release of a new product from OpenAI or I don't know, nuclear weapons going off and all the other things that have been on their platform recently. They are targeting three specific forms of trading activity. First off, users aren't allowed to trade on stolen confidential information or any behind the scenes knowledge about an outcome that people wouldn't otherwise have access to, which begs the question, how the fuck would they know?

Exactly. That's the whole point. It's insider information. But you know, people figure that out in the stock market. It takes a long time. There's trials, blah, blah, blah. as an extension. Not anymore. Well they w we used to do such things. We used to. Polymarket traders are also going to be prohibited from taking advantage of illegal tips, which means that even if someone has access to confidential information and passes it along You still can't trade on it. You're listening, Martha Stewart?

She served her time. Yeah. Don't be dissing Martha. Yeah. Come on. Use and users can expect more surveillance and enforcement around these new rules as well. Oh wait, I missed the third one. Lastly, anyone who is in a position of authority or influence sufficient to affect the outcome of the underlying event isn't allowed to trade on said events. So nobody in the Trump administration is allowed to trade on who what shoes they're gonna be wearing tomorrow, apparently. Okay.

Uh we'll see. I I don't know. So w you know, punishment uh the what the m the Mr. Beast video editor was suspended for two years from the platform and fined five times the amount of his initial trade size. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh he probably lost his job with Mr. Beast, which, you know, is probably worth a hell of a lot more than that stupid trade he made. So Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, if they can't fix the stock market

If you just watch the stock market this week and you look at all the insider trading, if they can't fix that, w what does p what chance does polymarket have? Zero. But uh you know, they gotta they gotta show face and that's they gotta front that's what they're doing. They're fronting. Yeah. Uh well a federal judge has put the brakes on the Pentagon's attempt to label anthropic a supply chain risk to national security, a ruling that is straight up First Amendment retaliation.

Ruling that it's straight up first retaliation. Uh it's a it's an early morning, Brian. It's an early morning. I do like to have this at night. It's so much better. Anthropic had the audacity

To say that it's AI shouldn't be used for autonomous kill decisions or mass surveillance, which got peak kegstands panties all up in a bunch, if you remember. I do. Well Judge Rita Lynn called it classic illegal retaliation, noting, and I love this, that if the Pentagon just didn't want to use Claude, they could, you know, stop using Claude. If you don't like it, you can turn it off.

Yep. Instead, Heg says February directive went further, essentially branding an American company, a potential military saboteur, for disagreeing with the government. The judge thankfully wasn't having it. The order takes effect in seven days, giving the administration time to appeal. Anthropic says it's grateful and remains focused on working. Productively with the government. And I would like to point the next government because this government probably isn't gonna work with them anymore.

I I just uh have a quick note about uh how I how I currently view uh our h hanging by a thread democracy in the United States right now. I know that the uh The MAGAs and the extreme uh extreme right has the thin blue line, which is, you know, the police force protecting themselves. I see this uh we basically have a thin black robed line protecting democracy at the moment, which is these heroic judges. that are basically saying, fuck no.

And that we got the heroic Black Road line is basically keeping democracy alive at the moment. And that's that's all we got. So keep at it, judges. Yes, and most of the judges we're going to talk about today are women, by the way. Yes. Well I think things might be a little bit different if we had a woman in charge right now. Ah, could be. Could her if she won that election. Moving on in the news.

A jury in New Mexico has found Meta liable for violating the state's consumer protection laws in a high profile civil trial over child exploitation and other safety issues. This case was brought by New Mexico's Attorney General in twenty twenty three and set it around allegations that Meta knew its platform put children at risk of exploitation and mental health harms and failed to put safety measures in place.

How did we know that they knew it? Because as we've discussed in shows prior They studied it and then buried the evidence about it. Yeah, yeah. We have we have the we have the paperwork. We have the whistleblowers and we have the paperwork. In the end, the jury ruled that Meta was liable for both counts of violating New Mexico's consumer protection laws for misleading people in the state about the safety of its services. It imposed a penalty of three hundred and seventy five million dollars for

the maximum amount under the law based on the number of violations. So while still kind of chump change for meta, it's a pretty big deal. It's a huge deal. It's a huge deal because now we have legal precedent. Exactly, because there are hundreds of cases like this coming from everywhere. So now we know. Uh I'm just gonna say we're gonna talk about a lot of d good uh good thin black road line cases in this particular s uh episode of our show. Don't get used to it.

No, don't get used to it. No. This is this is this is one of those episodes where it's like we actually have good news. Glimmers of hope. Glimmers of hope. And here's another one. A jury in Los Angeles has found that Meta and YouTube were negligent in closely watched trial over social media addiction. This case was brought by a twenty year old woman named in court documents as KGM, who sued Meta, YouTube, TikTok, and Snap.

saying that she had been harmed by the platforms as a child due to its addictive features. TikTok and Snap, well aware of their business models, decided to reach a settlement ahead of the trial. Yep. Yep. According to NBC News, Meta was ordered to pay seventy percent of the three million in compensatory damages with YouTube taking on the remaining portion. Unfortunately, chump changes, but again, precedent.

Yep, yep. And punitive damages have not yet been decided. So we still have some hope that there'll be more money. We respectfully disagree with the verdict and are evaluating our legal options, a meta spokesperson said, and the Google spokesperson said, We disagree with the verdict and plan to appeal.

this case misunderstands YouTube, which is a responsibly built streaming platform, not a social media site. I would like to tell Jose Castaneda, the Google spokesperson, that irresponsibly built streaming platform used to send my kid beheading videos while he was stuck in YouTube kids. Yep. And I do believe that there are comments on those videos, which makes it kind of a social networking site. Exactly.

Yeah. You know, you you sli you know you slice those words whatever way you want to. The fact that you do that is, you know, problematic. Yes. So again, precedent has been set and there are thousands of these lawsuits coming. Oh yeah, the Huns are at the gate. The Huns are at the gate.

Well, In some more thin black line news, Elon Musk's lawsuit claiming advertisers illegally boycotted X just got dismissed with prejudice. by a federal judge, which his courts speak for Don't Come Back. Judge Jane Boyle, another hero, ruled that Musk failed to show consumers were harmed, which is kind of the whole point of antitrust law. Turns out companies simply deciding they don't want to buy ads somewhere isn't illegal. Shocking, we know.

Musk had been pushing to have advertisers criminally prosecuted, which went about as well as you'd expect. The judge also called out X for a fishing expedition, seeking sprawling information way beyond anything relevant to the actual case. Meanwhile, X's ad revenue had cratered as much as fifty nine percent during the boycott. Well, maybe the content moderation cutting wasn't the brilliant move everybody thought there, Elon, but an appeal is likely.

Of course. Well, he's had another lawsuit and he lost. A group of former Twitter investors have prevailed at a federal civil trial over Elon Musk's action amid his forty four billion dollar acquisition of the social platform in twenty twenty two. A jury in San Francisco found Friday that tweets made by Musk about fake accounts on the platform had defrauded investors in the company. The jury sided with Musk on other allegations in the case.

It's not yet clear how much Musk will owe in damages as a result of the case, but as the AP reports, it could amount to billions of dollars. Juries calculated that shareholders should get between three dollars and eight dollars per stock per day. Oh damn. The class action lawsuit, one of several brought against Musk in the months following his takeover of the company, cited Musk's tweets about fake accounts on the platform.

Facing the sinking Tesla share price in the days after announcing he would buy Twitter for fifty-four twenty a share. The suit said that Musk made s tweets and statements that were intentionally made to drive down Twitter's share price and attempt to renegotiate or get out of the deal entirely. We all remember that.

Some Yep, yep. And we know how it ended. We know how it ended and it's not ending well for Elon now. So basically they said, Yeah, yeah, you you tried to manipulate the market, you tried to mess mislead the investors. And you're gonna owe them some money now. So this is becoming the most expensive company takeover in history. For not days. Oh wait. Except for maybe winning an election. Yeah, got that got that part in there too. Yeah.

All right, a federal judge ruled this week that a lawsuit against Elon Musk and Doge can move forward. Specifically the claim that Musk was basically running a shadow government without ever going through Senate confirmation. You know that quaint little constitutional formality? Well, the case originally brought by nonprofits like the Sierra Club and the Japanese American Citizens League accuses Doge of illegally cutting federal funding, firing workers, and dismantling agencies.

Judge Tanya Chuctan, another hero, let the core constitutional claim survive, though she tossed a few others. Meanwhile, in what might be the most perfectly ghoulish moment of this entire saga, a former Doge staffer admitted under oath that yes, he has no regrets about people losing their income, and no, Doge did not actually reduce the federal deficit.

Although the website still claims two hundred and fifteen billion dollars in savings, but that's because that's because they lost the WordPress password to get in the to update it. They fired big balls and it was his responsibility to update the website. That was the problem. That's right. Yep, that's right. All right. Well I think we've come to the end of that segment. I would just like to say thank you for your service, thin black line. Keep it up. Keep it up. Please keep it up.

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Now let's talk about the thin pink slips. Uh an actual news of hiring instead of firing, and this kind of blows my mind. OpenAI is doing the opposite of most other tech companies, although they did fire a bunch of people earlier. year. So anyways. According to a report from the Financial Times, the AI giant is looking to expand its workforce to eight thousand employees by the end of twenty twenty six, nearly doubling staff from its current headcount of four thousand five hundred.

Hires will be across several departments, including product development, engineering, research, and sales, probably not coding. OpenAI's hiring spree will include specialists for technical ambassadorship or employees tasked with helping businesses better utilize its AI tools. And this is probably because they're trying to ramp up against the competition against Anthropic and its Clawed AI chatbot, which is basically eating its lunch right now.

So open AI has some issues. People are not adopting it. They are attempting to pivot to business services. We'll talk a lot about that later. And uh they're basically gonna hire a bunch of salespeople. that's it that's all sales yeah It's all sales because in our next story, Sam Altman tried to say thanks to programmers instead

It lit up the internet. In a tweet, the OpenAI CEO said it's already getting hard to remember how much effort coding used to take, thanking developers for building the foundation that got us here. You're welcome. Yeah. Uh I I call this the great brain robbery of all of this AI shit. Uh a lot of these same developers heard it as a eulogy for their careers, so they might want to pivot into sales.

The backlash was immediate and brutal. Replies flooded in, calling the message tone deaf at best, openly hostile at worst. That's one user. That's Sam Altman. Yeah. That's that's him. Yeah. Uh one user summed it up saying, Nothing says you're being replaced like a heartfelt thank you from the guy doing the replacing. Of course, of course. Others pointed out the uncomfortable reality that AI models were trained on code and content scraped from those very same developers. Without compensation,

And everybody else. Yeah. So Yes. All yeah. Yes. Everybody. Anybody creative, any coder. I if you have fart it on tape and it's digitized somewhere, they stole that. They took it from you and it's in their fart algorithm. Uh oh I i open a fart algorithm. I c I I'm sure it exists somewhere. I'm sure it's I'm sure there's some code somewhere. Yeah. And th this one's great. Sam Altman went from Oscar party like after party to after party.

And to uh public enemy number one after getting confronted over OpenAI's Pentagon deal, which was pretty stupid, and a vanity fair bash packed with A listers, playwright Jeremy O'Harris. Called him out, first comparing him to a Nazi propagandist, then walking it back and comparing him to a Nazi industrialist instead. Not exactly an upgrade. In an email to page six, Harris apologized for comparing Altman to the wrong Nazi collaborators.

It was late and I had a few too many martinis, so I misspoke when I said Goebbels. I should have said Friedrich Flick, Harris stated. Bravo. Bravo. Man of his principles. He knows when he made a mistake and he's he's not ashamed to correct it. Exactly. Exactly. If you'd have used OpenAI, you'd probably gotten it right the first time. That's true.

Uh well, Sora's been in the news. OpenAI is killing off its hype AI video model and the TikTok style app built around it, ending a very short and very expensive experiment. This thing was costing them fifteen million dollars a day, by the way, which they did not have. Still don't have. Still don't have. Yeah. And they're hiring. Because they that's what they need to make money.

And they're planning on going public too, which is going to be phenomenal when we get to look at the books on that. Uh what launched as a breathtaking and terrifying app quickly turned into uncanny deepfakes, confusing branding and a social product Nobody used after the first five minutes. Uh the killer feature, deep fake yourself, felt less like fun and more like reputational Russian roulette. It pretty much the Jake Paul stuff was just hilarious. People were just tanking on him. It was great.

Uh now it's being shut down as OpenAI pivots to Enterprise with vague promises about what happens to your videos and whether the model survives in some other forms. Now here's the big fun. Disney has bailed on Sora and OpenAI because there was that billion dollar deal, which really wasn't a deal, it was more like a press release.

And they were going to give'em two hundred different characters to use in Sora. Well, Disney saw the writing on the wall and said, Fuck you guys, we're out of here. They are the big winners here because they get out of having to pay a billion dollars and making the worst mistake with their IP of all time. Yeah. Yep. So I think, you know, now that Bob Iger is out of the picture, the new guy was just like, Let's get the fuck out. Yep. Um so, you know, all those bullshit Hollywood is dead.

Uh headlines that you read everywhere. They were everywhere when Sora came out. I guess those were just AI slop or maybe just shitty journalism. I'm not sure, but it's over. Yeah. Well there's a pretty good article over on Slate about this called The Tech Bubble Might Finally Be Popping. Uh it's it's definitely worth a read. They actually get into the fact that most studios are getting out of all these deals and are training their own internal versions.

for for video work and all that sort of stuff. So AI is not going away. It's just going away from the four or five big companies that are out there and people are making their own tools internally, which makes a lot of sense to me. Uh but uh th some key points from this article that I really liked. OpenAI's abrupt shutdown of Sora reveals the AI boom might be a lot more fragile than it looks.

No she says let's be blunt, a highly capitalized AI startup that bails on one of its most prominent creations and largest corporate deals so soon after hyping them up for months on end is not in a good position as a business. especially at a moment when it plans to pursue an IPO and thus expose itself to more financial scrutiny. And yet it's only one of OpenAI's many recent troubles, and a sign that the AI bubble, while far from bursting outright, is wobbling and weakening as we speak.

In other words, and here's the downside of this, the one industry that's keeping up the country's growth on paper is closer to giving way and bringing around an all around slowdown in economic activity, one that'll make the current moment feel like a cakewalk by comparison. Oh joy. This is a castle built in sand right now and the fucking waves are coming.

Yeah, unfortunately. And I I think I predicted it at the beginning of the year, at the end of the last year, for for my predictions, that open AI isn't gonna make it past, you know, the next year and a half. Uh and it's looking it's looking like that because just there

Scam Altman's bullshit financials and the auraborus of you know, AI financing right now. I who even knows if Anthropic's gonna make it, but right now they're at least poised to do f go farther because of all the business dealings that they've done, the enterprise dealings. Yeah. The I still think the one that's going to to really make it out of this unscathed is going to be Google.

You know? Meta's gonna keep trying and they're failing hand over fist. Meta can't make anything work. We've seen that. They just keep trying and trying, yet they still make money hand over fist by doing all the things that are being sued for. Yeah. Yeah. That's and that's the only upside is yeah, Meta might just be in trouble because of all the lawsuits and they're gonna be they're gonna be busy with that for a while. Yeah.

So uh and if they just keep getting, you know, you know, how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time? Yeah. So people are just gonna keep nibbling away at the old Zuckerberg, so You know, he should take his Ray bands and just hit the road right now. If if he was smart, he would just get the fuck out of Dodge. Take his money and run. Yeah, you're done. Get out. Yeah. Well, Elon Musk has announced the Terrafab project.

So take your bets on uh polymarket right now whether this'll happen or not, because it's Elon. It won't. It won't. No But if he was smart he'd get Fabrice Morvan to be the face of Terrafab. That's pretty good actually. I like that. Uh now the weird thing about this is it says a joint venture between Tesla, SpaceX and X AI to build the largest chip manufacturing facility ever. Aren't they all rolled into one company now?

Not yet. They're gonna be. He's try he tried to, but he couldn't. They're all they're all basically investors in X AI. Right. Because, you know, XAI has the they've been gobbling people up and he's been trying to get Tesla to, you know invest more. So I think he wants to have the one company but I think shareholders are going, fuck that noise. Screw that. I'm investing in this part, not the rest of your crap. Exactly. SpaceX SpaceX, not your porn bot engine.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't want a Mecha Hitler. No Mecha Hitler in my SpaceX, please. Well unless you're building Nazi moon bases, then then we can talk. But Well, not content to simply call it the largest chip manufacturing facility ever. It is Elon, so he has to say that this is the next step towards harnessing the power of the sun and creating a galactic civilization. It's a chip manufacturing facility. It may be a big one, but it isn't has nothing to do with galactic civilization.

Right now it's nothing, so it's not even a big one. That's true. So it's in his ketamine fueled brain right now, so if it ever goes anywhere we'll see. Yes. The project's ultimate goal is to produce a terawatt of computing power each year so that it can match the company's growing demand for chips. He explained during a live stream that he's grateful to existing supply chain partners like Samsung, TSMC, and Micron, but fuck you.

We're building our own. Yeah. True, you guys, I'm going to the moon. Estimated to cost at least twenty billion dollars and it will start with the advanced technology fab in Austin, Texas, where Tesla is currently headquartered. As promising as this sounds, it is worth noting that Musk has previously overpromised and undelivered on everything. Everything he's ever said that has come out of his mouth has been either late or never happened. Thing. Yeah.

Hey, but we're getting a new Cybertruck minivan soon, I think. I think that's the No, we're not. As a matter of fact, no. Let me place my polymarket bet on that right now. Exactly. Uh well the White House just refreshed a science and tech advisory board, and this version looks a lot less like a room full of academics and a lot more like a Silicon Valley VIP list. Exactly. The President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology are PCAST. Grab him by the PCAST.

Is now stacked with a parade of douchebags like Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, Mark Andreessen, Sergey Brin, Jensen Wong, and Mark Zuckerberg, co-chaired by Trump's AI and crypto point man David Sack. Good God. It just bomb one room. Seriously, man. It's just like it's like the the Monopoly guy. Just a bunch of them lined up out the door with their bags of money, slapping it on Trump's desk.

Yeah. Uh noticeably absent though are the AI triumvirate of Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and Dario Amade. So none of those guys got invited to the party because they don't have any money left. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

Uh officially the board will advise on emerging tech and the workforce. Unofficially, critics see a pay to play vibe where companies That stay in the administration's good graces get influence and maybe funding, while others risk getting iced out because nothing says objective policy like a room full of fucking billionaires.

Very true, very true. I'm just gonna read the headline from the next story because it tells you everything you need to know. Pinterest CEO says teens under sixteen should be banned from social media, but not Pinterest. He should be on the fucking board too. Pretty much. Asshole. And there could be one more step required before creating an account and posting on Reddit in the future, according to Reddit's CEO Steve Huffman, the social media platform is expo at least they admit it.

Unlike you, Pinterest and other. The social media platform is exploring different ways to verify a user as human and not a bot. When asked by the TBPN podcast how to confirm that it's a human using Reddit, Huffman responded with several verification methods with varying degrees of heavy handedness.

And then proceeded to discuss everything that we've talked about as potential ways of verifying age and hemming and hawing about all of them because none of them are perfect and some of them take away privacy and that's really gonna bother a bunch of users on Reddit who like to do things privately because there's some pretty dark corners in Reddit.

And uh yeah, so he doesn't have a solution either, but he knows something's coming and realistically it's gonna involve a trade off on privacy. And they try to not say that part out loud, but you can hear it in the article. Okay.

Well, Jason, I uh gave in to my son, uh spent an awful awful lot of money and uh the Bamboo Lab A one has arrived. The three D printing adventure has begun. Okay. It looks pretty cool. It's it's fancy. It's it's a lot of fun. Um I don't I I I'm sure people we'll find people have found really good uses for this besides printing up plastic tchotchkis that are gonna be all over the goddamn house.

I was gonna say it's more shit that you're just gonna step on at three in the morning and your bare feet when you go take a leak. It's fun to use it. Like I it's been fun putting it together, understanding how it works. There's no doubt that to co as you used to always say, Jason, it is neat.

It is very neat. It's neat And like if I were into figurines and I was an adult a Dungeons and Dragons player and wanted to make b people for all my campaigns, this would be the fucking bombass dot com. Is it awesome for a nine year old boy?

Fuck yeah, it is. Am I ever gonna do anything actually useful with it? Probably not. Have I picked up a new skill set? Yeah. Okay, I have. I know how to do three D printing and I'm messing around with three D models and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, it's fun. Okay, I'm gonna tell you the one thing that, you know, my birthday's coming up. I'll be fifty five this year. If you wanted to make me a really cool chess set, you could you could

Probably make a really cool chess set with that thing. That would be very expensive. That would be a very expensive chess set to do all the pieces. Really? No, that this stuff is not cheap. Like the filaments aren't cheap. Like it it it uh this is this is actually probably gonna be the biggest lesson for my son about three D printing is we're gonna

We're gonna learn pivot tables and we're gonna start to understand exactly how much everything he prints costs. Okay. Because he's been a very gen well, okay, hold on. This is actually very funny. I thought he was being a very generous friend because he came home and he had a list of things that he was gonna print for all of it for like seven, eight, nine of his friends at school and I was like

Well w I mean he really does have a big heart. He gets this three D printer, he's printed of course he prints some things for himself first, because why wouldn't you? But he's he's he wants to print things for his friends. The next day I find out It's barters and trades and he's basically getting paid for everything.

Okay. So he's a little busy. I was even more impressed. That is good. That is im very impressive. Yeah. Yeah. So uh anyways, it it it's been fun, it's been interesting. I'm sure I will have continued updates as as I we go along in the future and uh Hopefully th this isn't something that he just uh loses interest in and collects dust and then I gotta figure out what to do with it'cause now we got it here.

So Okay. Well I mean you y you need to you need to like, you know, do do some equations where you show how much has uh allowances versus how many strands of yes whatever the the filament elements you can actually play. So yeah. So it's like if you get five bucks for your allowance, you get this much to make your tchotchke. So

So when you go sell them on the playground you best get ten bucks so you can buy more filament and then and create the empire and buy more machines and then You know how you were talking about how you've been getting into like the whole vibe coding thing and all that? And I I told well we talked off off air and I said I I just I don't I don't there's nothing I wanna build. I can't think of anything. I've got PTSD from being a developer.

I need to build a real time money clicker that sits above the three D printer as he's printing and showing him exactly how much money he's spending on the filaments and electricity as it goes through the whole thing. That'll take you about half an hour. Yeah. The hardest part's gonna be probably getting the um the little board to h put up to the little L C D that you do the the hardware half. Arduino and I can three D print uh some of the boards and

Yeah. Arduino and you're off to the races. But uh yeah, oh man, speaking of the v the the coding thing, I've been just into into codecs. I d I created the Grumpinator this week to try and help me uh parse through all of these feeds'cause I spend a lot of time going through news every week, you know. I had a hundred feeds that I'm going through news on just to get the articles for the show and I'm like

Well, let's let's write some software to do that and parse it, do sentiment analysis and all this stuff. And I wrote this giant thing. And then it got way too complicated. Now I'm paring it down and paring it down. But it's been fun. It's been really fun because it's like I only have the twenty dollar account on open AI.

And if you use the the Codecs app to code with, it'll tell you in real time how much how many tokens you're using and when the refresh is. I've never even used a full day's worth of tokens and I've had that thing running for twenty-four hours. Right. It's crazy. And and it's it's actually

that when it makes a mistake and I tell it well, you know, like, okay, the front end's janky right now, it's like, okay, let me go check and let me look at this and do all and it's it talks to me like a like we would talk to our

you know, um direct reports, our management people. And I was I'm impressed by how much of an asset fucks up. It is, it really is. It's like, come on, I'm trying to fucking play Quake over here. Don't bug me on my smoke break. Um But it's I mean it's it's it's definitely a better coder than I ever was or ever will be, so it's you know, which it probably ain't saying much, but damn, it's fun and it's not that expensive.

And I'm running everything locally. I tried to do some super based stuff, but it was slow. So now everything's running on Postgres on my little uh M4 Air. and running uh Node and uh everything's in TypeScript. It's it's pretty cool. I mean I'm ha I'm having a blast and it's cheaper than a three D printer. That's for damn sure. That's true. There's no doubt about that.

Yeah. Well, speaking of things that used to be fun and free, and now make us feel old, Twitter is officially twenty years old this week. Wow. And that's crazy. Yeah. And then uh in the article over on in Gadget, the author wrote, In another reality, that might make me feel kind of a nostalgic, but instead it's making him feel nothing at all. Because of the way it ended.

Yeah, yeah, that's kind of it. It's like, yeah. It was it it was s it was so great when it's well it was it when it first started everybody was like, What the fuck am I gonna use this thing for? And then it turned into, Oh my god, it's Twitter and then it turned into uh Fuck. I like this little bit in the article. It's been twenty years since Jack Dorsey sent the first ever tweet, which was never even a good very good tweet anyways.

It's been five years by the way since he turned that tweet into an NFT, remember NFTs, and auctioned it for nearly three million dollars. It's now functionally worthless. Another chapter in Dorsey's confusing, complicated legacy. So true, so true. I don't really actually think it's all that confusing or complicated. He came up with the idea of a hundred and forty character uh micro blog, and that's it.

Yeah, yeah. Everything else that he went off to do had already been done before, except better. And he grew a big beard. That's his legacy. Yeah,'cause he was never CEO material. He was a n he was a backroom nerd like the rest of us. He was just a coding dude. You know? He had no he had no quality of the stuff. He has no business running his his businesses.

Yeah, he has no qualifications to be a titan of industry, you know? That's really not what I'm saying. He's not. You'll notice he's like ignored on all the other things that we talk about. He's not invited to any of these councils. He's not part of a Trump doesn't even know his name. No, doesn't he is not a titan of tech industry at all anymore.

Well, you know,'cause it requires two invites to get him to go anywhere because they need one for him and one for his beard. And so if either one of'em decides to veto the the invitation then they can't go. So you know, and the beard just wants to go out and meditate. So Ayahuasca.

Well, the FCC just made a major move. No new approvals for consumer routers made outside the US. Existing models can still be sold, but anything new has to be American made or a clear, tough conditional approval process. So it has to be expensive and not work.

Yeah, exactly. There you go. Gotcha. Yeah, no back doors, but it still doesn't work. That's that that's how we avoid the back doors. It just doesn't work. Right. Uh I don't know where Eros are made. I don't either, but I think we're about to find out. Well, I'm just not gonna upgrade mine. Mine have been running fine for years, so hopefully I don't need to upgrade either.

Yeah, no new specs. That's all you do. Just no new eight oh two dot eleven specs and we'll be fine. Just you know, we don't need Wi Fi six or seven. That's okay. They they fired the people that were building that anyways. It's being vibe coded. So it's gonna be a while.

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So Brian, I did get to finally see the final episode of Star Trek Starfleet Academy. Mm-hmm. They could just end it right there. It was fine. They are Spoiler alert for the next tour. Yeah, well yeah. What I didn't really realize was uh Tatiana Maslaney is the was the mom. They like they didn't make her they they made her look different enough where I didn't really catch that that was her. Yeah. Until I saw the credits. I'm like, Oh, okay, I get it.

That w that just did not she was not giving She Hulk vibes. She was not giving She Hulk. Well no, it's a it's a vastly different haircut and they I think they aged her a little bit like with makeup and stuff. So definitely. Yeah. But I mean, uh yeah, and Orphan Black was a long time ago. So she was definitely younger during Orphan Black. Which is still if you haven't seen Orphan Black, worth going back. Not the reboot with uh the Jessica Jones girl. That that one was terrible. Right.

Uh the original Orphan Black I really enjoyed and she was she should have got all the awards for that. Her acting was unbelievable. I really believed there were seven different people in that show. I thought she was phenomenal and She-Hulk as well. Like very good actress. So and and that was just a great show. I'm bummed that didn't get renewed. Yeah, me too. It just had to be expensive. It was funny.

Yeah. Yeah. Surprisingly, very surprisingly. Well, I mean I would jump the gun a little bit on saying it uh it ended there. We are getting one more season, which has already been shot, uh but Star Star Trek, Starfleet Academy will end with its upcoming second season. Variety has learned. Uh the first season of Starfleet Academy reached an eighty seven percent critical approval rating on rotten tomatoes with varieties Ramindi Tinabu describing as a delightful entry point into the franchise.

But the show failed to find a significant audience across its ten episode first season, it failed to rank on the Nielsen top ten streaming viewership chart. So there are still two more seasons to come of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, one more season of Starfleet Academy. All of them are done except for post production. And that's it.

I uh Paramount is basically killed off streaming Star Trek era. It's done. Theoretically they're talking about going back uh there's a movie in development, but there's been a movie in development for about two decades now. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen. We'll see. I I it's sad. It's a sixty year old franchise that still absolutely has legs. Sure there are missteps. I also think the biggest problem is they don't let these shows go on long enough.

They don't they they can never uh the first few seasons of most of the older original Star Trek shows, not just the not the original, but we're talking next generation, Discovery, all that sort of stuff. Well Discovery. That's a different mist. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Enterprise. Enterprise. Those all took a few seasons to really find their f find their footing and really take off and and nothing gets that anymore.

I mean the problem with Discovery is they at the end of every season they completely fucking just threw the dice and completely changed the show because it wasn't working. No, stick with it. Keep going. The first two seasons of Picard were middling at best. Yeah, yeah, those are those weren't even great, but man, that ended on a on a nuclear bomb of awesome. Yeah. So but there you go. Uh it's just uh good luck now'cause I don't know.

Yeah, there's an article over at Gizmodo called Starfleet Academy Deserved Better Than This That's worth a read, but Star Trek deserves better than this. Yes. You know? So fuck you, Ellison. I agree. Captain Rose. Many, many reasons, many, many reasons, but yeah. Uh but this is just another one. It's like I I wish they would just sell it. Just sell just take the entire franchise, give it to Netflix, sell it. Give it to Netflix.

Give it to Apple. Give it to Apple. Apple throws money at sci-fi and they're all been crap, and you just give them Star Trek and it'll be awesome. Yeah, I mean we're coming up on what, season six of uh that one show that we always say we're gonna watch and never watch. Um the space one, uh, with the Russians. Uh, I can't even remember the name of it right now. And but then and Foundation, they gave all that money to Foundation for all those seasons and it's like What the hell? So Yeah.

If even if it d as your as your last great, you know, humanitarian thing, just go over to Larry Ellison's son or Larry, whichever one. It doesn't matter. They're the same. They they're cloned like foundation. Uh the the Emperor and Foundation. Just go buy Star Trek. We'll forgive you. Yeah, I I I'd be fine with Apple getting it, but you know who should really get it, Jason? Because this is where the real money would start to come. Let Disney buy.

Let Disney buy it and let them make a Star Trek Star Trek land. Oh my god. That would be pretty awesome. That would be pretty awesome. Although the uh the problem is you'd have the nerd fights in the i in Frontierland where the Star World Star Wars world and Star Trek world would be a lot of things. Yeah, Will Wheaton in between going You can like both.

All right. Uh remember I talked about uh Shrek and how my kids started to get into it. The first one was kind of rocky and not that good, but they progressively got better through two and three. Uh we've just watched Shrek four, uh Shrek Forever After. I didn't even know there was a four.

Okay. It's under I understand why they took a long time off making it after that. Apparently there's a fifth one that's in production right now, coming soon. Oh my god. Hopefully they they refound their writing, but this one was horrible. Next up we're gonna do the Puss in Boots standalone movies, which I from what I recall were very funny. So we'll see. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Those are I I I I saw the first one. That was pretty good. Yeah. All right.

And Daredevil Born Again season two dropped this week, the first episode. Uh I thoroughly enjoyed it. Very so glad that's back. So glad that's back. Uh yeah, Jessica Jones not back in it yet, but you know, we're waiting with bated breath. Five minutes at the end of sea of episode eight, which will end the season. Yeah, probably what we're gonna get. Yeah.

Uh continue to watch shrinking. Quality is still mm mm mm mm. One episode's really good, one episode's kinda boring, the next episode's really good, the next episode's kinda boring. So that's been uh interesting. What hasn't been that way is the Pit. Uh The Pit is by far my favorite show on television right now. This every every episode is fucking cracking. Just seems to pass

Immediately. It's my wife and I always look at each other going, I can't believe it's over already. Didn't we just sit down? This is amazing. I can't wait for next week. It's really well done, Jason. You should watch. That's what everybody says, so I guess maybe I'll I'll dig in'cause I don't really have much else to watch since Star Trek's off the air and I hate these kind of shows. Like I hate medical dramas. Except for House. House is the only one I've ever liked. This is amazing.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The whole medical procedural thing just doesn't like even the same. But this is great. All right. I'll maybe I'll give it a shot. Give it a shot. Uh what I won't be giving a shot is Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, the new series coming on HBO Max this uh winter.

I watched the trailer. I think the trailer is probably great for kids and it's gonna be great for a next gen a new generation of Harry Potter fans, you know? I it's not for you, Jason. There's no doubt about that. Um I watched the trailer. The first one was barely for me. I watched the trailer as well. Uh I like the concept, the fact that they're doing each season is a is the book so they can get a lot more

into the stories and and and and tell more of the actual book than the movies did. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the original cast and the original movies um because they were awesome. Let me the biggest problem I have with this, and and I wasn't impressed at all either, and this goes back to what uh Bittner talked about once uh in on the show with us, there's no color to it. No, it is dark and drab and almost monochrome. The original movies burst with color.

It was amazing. It was beautiful. It's magic. It's exciting. And we got the greens and the reds and all the house colors. This is so washed out and drab and horrible looking. And I hate it. I hate it. I fucking hate it. Yeah. It's just just muted blah. Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. I didn't even know. They're gonna ruin it with that. Ruin it. Yeah, I didn't even pick that up until you mentioned it. I'm like there w there was definitely something missing.

And it was it's just like, you know, the house colors were just like, you know. And and and even my my roommate has even talked about this. It's like when we watch these shows and We have the brightness on our TV cranked up. I did the consumer reports thing that you told me to do to make my TV max. I maxed out my viewership on my TV. My my TV maxing. And it is still too dark to see.

in a regular room during the day. These scenes are so dark you can't see shit anymore. Yeah, and I don't understand it for this first first season in the first book because it is so for children. It is so supposed to bring you into the world and be exciting and fun and beautiful and colorful and it's for kids and you wash it all out and make it like we're watching

a medical procedural drama for adults. That's like, no, that's not what it's supposed to be. And I understand it gets darker later on as they get older and they're in rain and blah blah blah. But this whole first thing should be a fucking rainbow explosion. It should be. It's not fight club with magic wands. Yeah, you know. I don't get the choice to do it this way. Yeah. So it is what it is. Um I'll still watch it.

Oh yeah, you got a kid you can. You have you have you have permission. You have my permission. Thanks. Um and and uh Stephen Colbert is going to be writing the next Lord of the Rings movie, it turns out, with his son. So I don't know about Steven's history with Lord of the Rings, but apparently he's a super duper Uber fan. Oh massive huge.

So there we go. Uh look, I'm fine with it. I like Steven. Uh I like the fact that he's a total nerd about it. There's the there's probably not too many people on the planet more uh more prepared to write something like this. I I will say that uh one little thing that I read uh on in some of the articles about this that gave me a

Is this an Elon Musk thing? Will we ever see this? Probably not, as I realized that in order for them to keep the IP, for Amazon to keep the IP, they have to have a movie in development at all times. Oh development. Okay. They don't actually have to produce a movie. Something has to be in development.

Okay. Okay. Well we'll see. Hopefully, you know hopefully it'll they'll do it. I'm all for it. I I like the show. I like the Amazon show. I I like I I like the I think the original three movies, even the extended ones that require me to sit there for twelve fucking straight hours to watch them. are unbelievably good. I don't need The Hobbit. I never need to see those movies again unless you can I want a short and condensed one hour version of that exact of those three movies.

The anti extended edition. But I'm all for more Lord of the Rings content as long as it's good. So that's all I need. Yeah. And and you know, you turned me around on the series. I actually really like the series. I got really bummed when I finished it so fast'cause I binged it and I'm like, Where where's the rest of it? Yeah. Like, Oh, it's gonna be two more years

Fuck you. And I just finished re-watching over the Christmas break. I rewatched all the extended editions of the original movies. My favorite Christmas movies. It was an absolute phenomenal experience again. They have total legs. And I and and this is something that I I still have never seen the Hobbit movies. So they're horrible. Um

That's what I heard, so that's why I didn't think that's a good thing. They're not horrible, but if you edited all three movies into one, it would be great. It's the fact that it's six hours of that crap. Yeah. This is only one of the other ones, so I'm kinda I'm kinda tempered with, you know, how long shit takes. So maybe I'll just watch it. But yeah. Um but I I want to do the pit first. I'll do the pit first. Okay.

Okay. Uh the Supreme Court just handed ISPs a major win, ruling unanimously that companies like Cox Communications aren't liable for what users pirate unless they actively encourage it. For once, it is just a platform. Yeah, yeah. So that kills Sony Music Entertainment's attempt to force providers into acting like copyright cops and mass kicking users off the internet.

Uh a little late on this one. Uh the court leaned on Sony's own nineteen eighty four Betamax case, basically saying if a service has a legitimate uses. And the internet definitely does. You don't get to blame the pipe Yeah, no yeah. That's questionable nowadays.

Yeah, you don't get to blame the pipe. So but uh the problem is uh uh Cox had already been hit with a one billion dollar verdict back in twenty nineteen, which was later overturned, but the ruling shuts the door on that liability theory forever. So well until relitigated, you know. You can say things are forever, but then I look at Roe v. Wade and go, Oh fuck. Yeah. But So and on the final sh this is the bad news of the week, or at least the predictably annoying news.

Netflix is raising prices again across every subscription tier up to twelve dollars or up to twelve point five percent. Uh so yeah, every plan is going up, which is like great, just what we need. Um You know, if if the Warner Brothers deal had gone through, maybe. Yeah. But then he would have a reason. Yeah, but Netflix's president assured everyone the shelved Warner Brothers deal had, quote, no impact on their pricing strategy. So this one is one hundred percent all them. And

If you don't like it, co-CEO Todd Ted Serrandos wants you to know that you can, and this is a real quote, cancel with one click. Thanks, Ted. Very helpful. Appreciate it. I might. There's not a lot I watch on Netflix. That's the only one I can't cancel. I got too much stuff on there that I watch. So you got me by the balls, Ted. Fuck you. Well, that's the problem. They know it. At the

I uh decided I needed to take a break from fiction after the last few books that I read. So I uh wanted to I've been hearing about this book for a while, so I wanted to check it out. It's called Breath, The New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor. And uh it's basically supposed to be, you know, it It's a bit Elon Musk. It overpromises and under underdelivers. The book is supposed to basically tell you, you know, you're breathing wrong, which a lot of people are. Uh

The TLDR on that is breathe in through your nose at all times. Never breathe in through your mouth. Your nose is designed to take air in. There's a bunch of reasons for it. He actually illustrates those perfectly. Makes total sense. Then he goes on flights of fancy about how basically this can solve everything. It will cure cancer if you learn how to breathe properly. Blah blah blah. He doesn't say cure cancer. I don't want to get sued by the guy.

Um and th there's way too many personal I I I I guess I just don't like the way he writes. It's way too many personal stories, not enough science, not probably because there isn't about a lot of the claims being made here. And a a lot of anecdotal evidence, not a lot of real evidence, a lot of well, people just aren't studying this when if you actually then go in and Google search, they are, and they did.

And maybe that's not quite so true. I'm trying to decide if I want to finish the book because there are nuggets in there that's pretty good. I I decided to use my um my AI, my Claude, my desktop Claude. And I I I popped in and I was like, okay, can you tell me uh what are the actual scientific opinions about Breath, the New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor? And it basically came back with decidedly mixed.

Okay, that's helpful. That's helpful. So yeah, again, it comes down to some of it is is actually studied and and pretty spot on and pretty basic. And you know, if you're curious about it and there are some interesting stories in there. And there are uh I I've been definitely more focused on my breath and how I breathe now, particularly when I'm exercising, because I used to just huff and puff because that you think that's what you're supposed to do.

No, uh breathe in through the nose, measured, relaxed. Uh I've learned some timing methods that I use now. I find that I I get uh I have more energy when I work out, I'm able to to lift stronger, go faster on my bike, all that sort of stuff. It actually really does help. So there are some great nuggets in here that that are worth learning about. It's just it's a really long book to get to just those nuggets.

Um, and the other thing I wanted to point out, which I kinda knew, but it just never clicks into my head right. Exhaling is actually how you lose weight. You don't sweat it out. You don't anything. It's all carbon monoxide leaving your body. That is how you lose weight. So if you learn to breathe properly, to maximize the output of carbon deni dioxide from your body, you are actually helping yourself to lose weight.

Which is kinda cool. Yeah. It is. It is cool. Um also uh if you've ever take a voice lesson, you know, just just take a a little bit of voice classes for a couple of weeks. And you'll learn everything you need to know about breathing. It's that's one of the best things that you can do. Yes, in through the nose, out through the mouth.

And uh learn a couple of different techniques of good breath. Deepen your diaphragm, feel your rib cage separate and rise with each breath. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. From the diaphragm. From the diaphragm. And when you get stressed out, learn box breathing. Oh, box breathing is the best. After my surgery, when I was like in pain, that got me through it.

Yeah, box breathing, you know, very simple. You know. Four in, hold four, four out, hold four. Yep. And you can change those numbers based on based on lung capacity and things like that, but four four four four four four four four four is the is the easy way to remember it. So There we go. Four on the floor.

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