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Grumpy Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFillippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame.
Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks. I'm Jason DeFillippo. And I'm Brian Schulmeister. Brian, I'm back in my old studio today. Congratulations. Thank you. It's been sitting dormant for months because I haven't been able to rent it out and I just gave up the ghost. But the other reason was my roommate pointed out, you know, it's winter and it gets cold in the garage. It was 48 degrees in the garage. I'm like, you know, I love doing this show, but not that much.
So here we are. Well, you're paying for the studio anyway. So you might as well use it. Yeah, long story on that one got fucked over. But anyway, let's move on. What do you got for us today, Brian?
Well, we've got yet another class action lawsuit and we all know my opinion on this. You need to take these companies for whatever money is offered because Goddamn it. It's your damn job to do it. And quite a few of our listeners may or may not have used this app cash app, which I personally have. Yeah, there you go. Well, heads up if you've had a cash app account over the last six years or so, you may now be able to claim thousands of dollars as a result of a class action settlement.
The company proposed the $15 million settlement earlier this year following the two security incidents that they've had kind of bad if it's a cash app. Yeah, so it really is. If you're eligible to make a claim, you only have a few more weeks to do so. This is a consolidated class action complaint that alleged that cash app and parent company block failed to enact sufficient security measures to prevent data breaches. They've denied any wrongdoing, which is why they're ponying up $15 million.
Okay. $15 million doesn't seem like that much money. Yeah, but they say the settlement is not an admission of liability either. So if you've had an account between August 23rd, 2018 and August 20th of this year, you will be able to get some the settlement will cover up to $2,500 of out of pocket cost stemming from the breaches, as well as up to three hours worth of lost time at $25 per hour.
Excuse me. I make more than $25 an hour. So what the hell? Yes, those few hours that we work. We have to we have to sue Jack's beard instead of suing cash app. Yes, I agree. So there's there it is. Go get it. Lincoln the show notes. Okay, I get another one this morning before the just right before we started recording and I didn't have time to put it in the notes, but there's apparently a peacock class action lawsuit that I'm getting looped in on as well.
So if you've had peacock in the past, however long it is, check your email because you might be part of a class action for that one too. All right. I don't think I've ever actually paid for peacock. So I did for a while. Right. That was one show that I wanted to watch. That was it. Yes, isn't this new brave world of streaming awesome. Yeah, maybe maybe I'll get some cash back on that. That would be nice because peacock was definitely the weakest of all of the streaming services.
Oh, I take that back. A and E plus was definitely the worst. There was only interview with the vampire. That was the only show on there, but peacock second worst. So I've been saying this since the day that Elon announced this Brian and it's finally finally hitting the news.
Tesla's decision to rely solely on camera based sensors for its full self driving technology is under scrutiny because unlike competitors using LiDAR and radar, Tesla did eliminate ultrasonic sensors back in 2022, opting exclusively for cameras. The approach has faced criticism, especially after incidents where FSD equipped vehicles failed to detect obstacles at low availability conditions could like fog or sunglasses.
I don't know if you saw the video going around this week, Brian, but it was of a Tesla driving at night that just plowed down a deer, a little baby deer about the size of a small child. Fucking bambi killed and bambi. Fucking bambi. I know. So the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is investigating for such collisions, including a fatality, potentially leading to a recall of weight of art, 2.4 million vehicles.
OK, we know recall means not really recall anymore. So you know, press the update button. Experts suggest that weather conditions can impair camera performance posing challenges for Tesla's planned Robo taxi service, which we know is never going to be here. Despite CEO Elon Musk's longstanding promises of imminent fully autonomous vehicles, Tesla's FSD technology continues to lag behind competitors like Waymo. Yeah, we know we know because we follow Waymo.
So yeah, I said from the day from the get when he said we're taking away LiDAR, it's like, no, that's the thing you need. You need depth perception. I don't care how many cameras you have, you're not going to get proper depth perception. And that's what you need for cars. You're going to need your car to work in fog. I'm just saying, especially if you're trying to go for San Francisco.
I saw a hack this morning on Instagram. Somebody was it was it was basically a fog driving hack where somebody was holding up their iPhone to the window. Because it cleared out the fog. It made it look much better. So they're looking at their iPhone while they're driving through the fog. It was great. Who knew the Tesla needs a Rudolph. In the news.
Now Brian, it's been an interesting week for Trump social. It is it is now apparently in has has transferred over to meme stock land because there's two headlines, which I loved. First one was Trump social media company is now worth more than musks X after recent surge in stock price. Now this was on this was early in the week. And so it's Trump social jump to over $10 billion in value. Now the funny part about that is X is not only worth $9.4 billion. What's the bigger headline there?
Yeah. It was $44 billion. Now it's $9.4. That's a lot of shareholder value that just went out the window. Yeah. Everybody was that was that was I mean that made the mainstream news. That's the only reason I found out about it. Because it was on the the LA news. I'm like, wow, that's interesting. Sort of. And then of course at the end of the week, Trump loses $1.3 billion in net worth after the worst ever day for his social media stock.
The meme give it the meme take it away. Yeah, I haven't really been following. I got really depressed when you posted the first one about it going up and just doing really, really well. And I got really happy when you posted the second one more it tanks because the Scott Galoway has long since claimed and I also believe I think that the stock price for true social wish.
Yes, it is a meme stock. I would actually more considerate a political stock because his belief is that this is going to be a harbored gener of the election. The better his stock does is the better chance that he has up winning the election. The worst is stock does the worst chance he has because basically nobody in their right mind would actually fucking invest in this company. It's purely putting your money in Trump's mouth.
Right, right. It's a campaign contribution for the most part. Exactly. That's all it is. So yeah. So good to see it go down. I'm happy about that. Okay, hopefully somebody shorted it. They actually use a different term for it for true social. It's a small handing it. Okay. Nice. Thank you. Got some breaking news Jason standing desks are the new eggs are they is delicious though. Absolutely not unless here's this made a chocolate.
Yeah, so this just came out that there's been a massive series of studies about this. And as we know, the global market for standing desk is booming projected to reach $12.6 billion by 2032. I am sitting at a standing desk right now. I'm standing at a standing desk right now. But yeah, I know you've got it as well. Now I put a bunch of stuff in here from the article you might want to go read it yourself. If you're interested in this and following it.
So as a study from Australia, which involved over 83,000 participants, which is not insignificant. And the TLDR on this is just standing or just sitting are both bad. You need to move your ass. So basically you need a treadmill desk had one of those. Yeah, it's hard to work when you're doing that. It really is. So you get used to it. You get used to it. But honestly, just move around a lot.
If you're standing in one place and not moving your feet, yeah, you're going to get the same problems. Yeah, it's never been about always standing or always I always switch it up. That's why I got the motorized one. Like, you know, seven or eight years ago. I got I got a motorized standing desk with a really nice chair. So I sit for about 20% of the day and I stand for about 80%. And about out of that 80%.
20% is on a Bosu balance ball. Yeah, I tried to follow the 40 20 rule where I'm working for 40 minutes. I get up and walk around for 20. I know that's hard to do for some. But yeah, yeah, it works. It really works. So don't do either for a long time. It's almost kind of a no brainer. But I mean, to be fair, standing desk have marketed themselves as healthier than a normal desk. And not really true.
I don't know about that. I think it I think they definitely are. But it's it's all about the dose, you know, the poisonous in the dose. Well, let's shift gears a little bit here. We've got some Facebook news in a troubling development anti government militia groups are using Facebook to recruit and organize openly ahead of the US election next week.
So just like the last time except yeah, yeah, okay. Extremist groups like the three percenters are discussing civil war preparations, three percent, because that's the size they can count, including ballot box, takeouts to monitor election activity.
Meta Facebook's parent company has reportedly banned such groups, but data from the tech transparency project reveals over 260 Facebook groups and pages are still in use by militias since 2021 with some pages wait for it Brian, even auto generated by Facebook's algorithms.
I had no idea that that was actually happening. I mean, not even just for militia groups, but just in general, the fact that Facebook's algorithms is auto generating groups that they hope people will populate. I hate Facebook. Yeah, this is this is an old thing. I thought they got rid of the practice, but yeah, they've been doing that for God.
Long, long time, obviously, but yeah, I remember when they were doing this and I was like, what they're just they were pre populating it with content from around Facebook. So when somebody stumbled upon it, you know, the knitting ponies group. They they could have one ready and spun up and ready to join. Oh, you're the first person to join. Would you like to run the whole thing? Sure. Great. It's going to be a fun election year.
I'm happy to be out of the country for this one. I bet. Yeah, I got some pink slip news Jason. We haven't done that in a while. For the second time in less than two years drop box is laying off a substantial portion of its workforce in a blog post pen by CEO Drew Houston, the company said it would cut its global head count by 20% or 528 employees, not insignificant.
They will provide impacted workers with up to 16 weeks of pay with 10 year employees eligible for one additional week of pay for each complete year they worked at the company. All impacted employees will see their year end equity vest and the company will provide dedicated support to immigrant workers with one on one consultation and extra transition time.
Okay, Houston wrote we continue to see its softening demand and macro headwinds in our core business, but external factors are only part of the story we've heard from many of you that our organizational structure has become overly complex much like my drop box itself with excess layers of management slowing us down.
Partway through last year they had laid off 500 employees, which was 16% of its workforce at the time. Basically the theme here compared to what he said at the time they did the previous layoffs slowing growth, which makes sense because basically cloud storage is dime a dozen at this point.
Exactly, I mean I went back to it after I was used to I cloud for I was using Dropbox forever then I went to I cloud because I cloud was included on my stuff I cloud sucks for a lot of things the main fact is that you can't force an update like you can with Dropbox so I went back to Dropbox so I pay Dropbox but I just pay them a little less than I used to that's all.
I still like the product I'm not you know fine job the integrations are great it's convenient it's more convenience and easier than most but obviously probably not for much longer. Yeah, and they've been trying to diversify like I talked about last episode when I was talking about Docu sign how they saw the writing on the wall for their product you know just basically being commoditized.
Dropbox actually has a version of that built into it and the problem is that they're just trying to decommoditize themselves by adding on other commoditized features.
So it's like there has to cut their at some point there has to have some innovation along the way you know and I think what we're seeing here too is that there's a lot of extra head count after the pandemic and a lot of companies are still they're still trying to figure out how to reduce that head count is just taking some longer than others I guess true. All right well let's get into the AI segment it's unavoidable these days.
We have to do it every single time but this one is a bit of a bit of an eye opener for me we've talked a bit about open AI's whisper I think you even ran some of our podcast through it every now and then to use it every week.
Yeah, that's it every week have you been double checking its work Jason oh absolutely I actually yeah yeah continue Brian we'll talk about it a second as this article states imagine going to the doctor tell them exactly how you're feeling and then a transcription later adds false information altars your story.
Apparently this is happening a lot with people using open a eyes whisper over a dozen developers software engineers and academic researchers have been looking into this and found evidence that whisper creates hallucinations which is inventive text in this case that includes made up medications racial commentary and violent remarks according to ABC news in the last month open source AI platform hugging face of 4.2 million downloads of whisper is latest version this
tools also built into Oracle and Microsoft's cloud computing platforms along with some versions of chat GPT harmful evidence is quite extensive with experts finding significant faults with whisper across the board so you know basically the TLDR on this and there's a lot of examples in this article is it's fun is it ready for prime time maybe maybe not should you be using it in life and death situations apps a fucking lootly not
hell no and the problem is people are yeah over 30,000 clinicians and 40 health systems are using whisper for medical transcription right now oh you should not do that well they are they are so you know it's one thing to throw a podcast in there and spit it out it's another thing to be doing banking people in banking are using it people obviously in the medical situation are using it bad
what these aren't finished products we all know this it's in the news every fucking day and it's free I don't read don't trust anything free I don't want any of my medical stuff shouldn't be going through free systems or word press or Linux never use Linux it's free the hell's wrong with you getting now is this one is it's just not good I was running I was running some of Christopher lockheads podcasts through it because then I was going to take those transcripts and run them through some
other software and I was doing a bunch of stuff with it and I noticed in whisper there was one time and I talked about this on the show I don't have the example in front of me but that were you are putting it in the middle of the conversation over and over and over again it was like somebody hacked the model to insert to inject their URL but it was for something like home hair
permanence dot com or some shit like that it was something totally random and didn't sound like what was being spoken about and it was really, really strange. And it was happening in different parts of the conversation from different speakers at the same time. It was totally not ready for prime time. So I switched models and it went away. But I think I was using one of the faster models and I switched to like a medium model and it came
back just fine. But yeah, you got to check that stuff. You can't just let it go. So I mean, it's a great starting point. If you have somebody on staff that wants to, you know, just basically run through and do the transcript, like check the transcription, it's perfect starting point for that. But if you're just going to take it, run it and then put it on your website or give it to, I don't know, your patient.
Yeah. Not in my question. You're giving it to like the pharmacist or you're giving it to the surgeon. I mean, yeah, that's even worse. Yeah. Yeah, left arm versus right arm switch switcheroo bad. Very bad. Well, speaking of open AI chat GPT can now search the web name much better way than before.
You can get fast timely answers with links to relevant web sources, which would have previously needed to go to go to a search engine for this blends the benefits of a natural language interface with the value of up to date sports scores news stock quotes and more chat GPT will choose to search the web based on what you ask or you can manually choose to search by clicking the web search icon that is directly from their press release. And it showed up in my chat GPT app yesterday.
And I've been giving it a go. And it's not bad because it actually lists the sources as well, kind of like perplexity does. Right. There are some that have obviously blocked it. I think tech crunch is one of them because basically I can put in summarize this article with the URL. And basically I was looking at a tech crunch article copy the URL, pod it popped it in and said, we can't get that one. No explanation. That one's unavailable. Sorry about that. Try something else.
Would you like to go here or that? And everything else that I put in was fine. And then I tried it again a little bit later. No, it wasn't a temporary glitch. It was definitely not being able to get the story. So maybe it's maybe maybe Brian, it's respecting robots.txt. Maybe maybe maybe. Yeah. Then I just copied the article content, popped it into open AI or chat GPT. It summarized it just fine. So there was always a workaround. Have you tried it yet? Chat GPT search? No. I've
let it go on Google. So I'm getting Google's AI summarized search results just to kind of see how they're doing. And they're okay. It depends on what you're searching for. If it's a straightforward technical or a question or a fact-based thing, it's generally pretty good. If you ask anything more esoteric, I scroll past it and go look at things elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah. It's hit or miss definitely. But just keep that glue off the pasta, Brian. Keep the glue off the pasta. I'm attempting to do so.
Open AI CEO Sam Altman revealed that limited computing power is delaying the rollout of new AI products during a Reddit AMA. So he's saying that the growing complexity of AI models is forced open AI to make tough decisions about how to allocate its compute resources. That's because Elon bought all the GPUs nowadays. So and what they're going to be doing is they're going to be working with Broadcom to develop their own AI chip, which could be ready by 2026. All right. There's only
so many computers in the world, I guess. You remember like we had an open setting where we don't even our own personal compute time to find extraterrestrial life? Of course I do, Brian. Okay. Well, I was saying Sam Altman could pay us a couple of pitances and I'll open up my compute for a bit. I don't know about you, Brian. Did you listen to the HardFork podcast? I did for a little bit. I kind of dropped off my radar. Okay. I was listening this morning to they had Miles Brundage on. Do
you remember him? We talked about him like a couple of weeks ago. He was the former open AI senior advisor on artificial general intelligence readiness. Yes. Yeah. Well, they had him on today. And since he's since he lives in the AIG world, you know, if you're in your hammer, everything's a nail. He was talking about how how the world is going to change when we do have artificial
general intelligence. And I just want to know what the fuck he's smoking and can I get some? Because the way he's explaining it, we just watched the was it's episode two of the latest season of lower decks where there was this post scarcity world and everybody's like, woo, this is fantastic. We got replicators. We don't need to do anything anymore. Yep. This guy is he's in his head. AIG is going to be like we wake up one morning and we have replicators and people are going to be
able to retire. There's going to be the economy is going to be phenomenal across the globe. Everything is going to be great. And I'm like, is your AI going to come replace the tile in my bathroom? Yeah. That's the thing. That's the thing about these people that have drunk their own fucking cool aid with this stuff. It's what do you need? What do you need in life, Jason? You need food. Okay. We need a replicator for that. Fucking artificial intelligence isn't going to solve that.
You need clothes. Ditto. Okay. Maybe robots can make some clothes. So it's a bit cheaper. I still got to pay for those robots. Yeah. I got to have got to fucking lube them up every now and then. That isn't created by the robots. Housing did a same thing. Maybe they can build the houses. Somebody's got to get the fucking lumber. Somebody's got to pay for the lumber. It's all such a lurch. Shit. You know, and it's so fucking stupid. And you know, the rich thing about this is
literally it's only the rich guys that talk about this utopia. It's the ones that are living in a current utopia on their taking their money baths that are telling us that we don't need to be worried about this. 110 percent, man. And it's like they have such a narrow view of the world. It's like, go outside. Is your AIG going to clean the fucking man poo off the sidewalks in San Francisco? No, it's not. No, it's not. I don't know what it's it has its place. It's doing some some
interesting things, some things. It's obviously not doing like we just covered with whisper. You know, if it can't do a transcription, how is it going to rule the world, Brian? Yeah, that's all I want to know. If it can't do a basic transcription in understand our language, how is it going to
rule and run the world? And I can't remember who I was listening to. I have kind of up my tech podcast listing recently, but I can't remember who it was, but somebody said something along the lines of I'm really tired of the hypocrisy of all these people that have stayed two, three, four, five years with it in AI companies made a hundred million dollars. And now that they got all their money, they're out there talking smack and worry about this. That's also happening. I'm sick.
That was our show two weeks ago. Well, it's I mean, everything I hear on every tech show was our show two weeks ago. Exactly. No, we we talked we literally talked about that two weeks ago. And it's I'm sure it's probably Scott Galaway because do you still listen to you still listen to him, don't you? No, I went back to do just the kind of a what you should be doing with AI special series that they're doing, but I can't listen to the normal show anymore. Okay. I think it's a
general sentiment now that we've all we've all kind of pulled the curtain back. And we've seen the fact that these guys once they cash out that they're they're they're they're all good on highlighting the the badness in the room, you know. Well, as you were just saying, if we if we whisper AI can't even do transcripts correctly, we should be a little bit worried. Apparently not Sundar Pichai.
He's not worried about Sundar up to now. Good old Google CEO Sundar just revealed that AI now generates more than a quarter of its new code for its products according to a company's earning called Transcribe by ours Technica. So maybe they got it wrong if you use AI transcription. I hope they got it wrong because it's going to make me stop using Google products. I'll tell you that much. Pichai did say that human programmers oversee the computer generated code, which is
something. The CEO noted that AI coding helps with boosting productivity and efficiency, ensuring that engineers do more and move faster. There's no two ways around it. 25% is a lot. And Google is just one company relying on a algorithms to perform complex coding tasks. According to Stack Overflows, 2024 developer survey over 75% of respondents are already using or planning to use AI tools to assist with software development. Another survey by GitHub indicated
that 92% of US based developers are currently using AI coding tools. This leads us to the rampaging elephant in the room, quoting this article, as AI continues to gobble up coding tasks, human experience starts to dwindle. This could eventually be to a decreased knowledge base in which humans don't know how to fix errors created by AI algorithms that were in turn created by other AI algorithms. So here we go. The oraboris of confusion where it's nearly impossible to detect bugs
amidst generations of AI code fun times. Exactly. What we said about a year and a half ago, the exact same thing, exactly the same thing. Amazon is also doing the same thing. We just covered that about three or four weeks ago. They're using AI to upgrade their Java installs. That was the article that they're talking about. But yeah, if you don't have the requisite coding skills to know what you're looking at, then how are you going to fact check anything? This is the slippery
slope, Brian. It is the slippery slope down into the mouth of the oraboris or is it the anus? We don't know. Yes, it's all the same. Yeah. Good times. Well, yep. It removes shaking up the AI industry, the open source initiative or OSI has released a formal definition of open AI, sparking debate with companies like meta. The OSI now requires fully quote unquote open AI systems
to provide access to their training data code and model settings. Are you saying if you're calling yourself open AI, you need to actually be open exactly which we've been saying all along that Facebook is releasing these quote unquote open source models that aren't. Yep. So that's what they're coming out saying. And yeah, so this is just going to lead to everybody going OSI, who? Exactly. You're not the boss of me. And they're really not. Yeah. So they're really not.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just close out news with this story. Elon Musk fans are losing so much money to crypto's games. Elon Musk isn't just the richest person in the world. He's also an investor in cryptocurrency. And the fact that Musk very publicly promotes crypto, especially his dumb coins that don't do anything, means a lot of people on social media don't find it suspicious at all when they see videos of the billionaire promising to make them rich with some shady crypto investment.
Deep fake videos and must-cocking crypto are incredibly common on sites like Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, blah blah blah all the socials, including X. I guess they can't even clean it up there. And Gizmodo has attained official complaints with the often shocking stories and they're published in the article linked in our show notes. And I scan through this holy shit. That bad. A people are fucking dumb and B they're really, really, really losing a lot of money.
As the article points out, it's actually kind of shocking when you read through the FTC complaints, people reported losing hundreds of thousands of dollars in relatively short periods of time. Yay. And the funny thing is they're only kind of banging on about the deep fake videos of Musk-cocking crypto as opposed to the real videos of Musk-cocking crypto, which you know. I know. See, that's the point. Was it Elon or not? Come on. Can you really tell? Not anymore.
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each other. I don't even know what to do with myself. First up, Underworld came out with Strawberry Hotel. It just released last week. I've been listening to it pretty much non-stop. It's not quite the glory days, but it's good. I like having it on in the background when I'm doing other things, and there's a couple really good bangers that make me definitely want to go see them live when they come through town again. Of course, my favorite band of all time has released their first album
in over 16 years. As of this morning, the cure put out songs of a lost world. Let me tell you the kind of disconnect I had in my life when I put on NPR this morning as I usually do, and NPR is talking about the cure and doesn't interview with Robert Smith. NPR, that's how my world has changed. I mean, the cure used to be one of the most underground bands, and I've talked about this before too, like just being friends with so many people from my high school on Facebook and all that sort of
stuff and people are talking about the cure. What is this revisionist history that has happened? You did not listen to the cure back in high school. There were maybe six of us at my high school that listened to the cure. You called us fucking weirdos, and you were rocking out to Debbie Gibson and new kids on the block. But okay. Fucking Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi, exactly. But I'm very excited about it. Two songs have been out for a little bit over a week or two. I've liked both quite a lot.
It seems to be a real return to the deep darkened depressing disintegration style, and I have an attitude to listen to it yet today because it came out this morning, but I can't wait. Deep darkened depressing. Perfect for the election cycle. Exactly. I can't wait. Everybody go grab your yearbook from when you're in high school, especially if you're Gen X and around when the cure was the cure. Just go look at the hairstyles and you can tell exactly who
was listening to what? And I guarantee you I can count on two hands the amount of people in my high school that listen to the cure. But everybody listened to the cure in Depeche mode now, Jason. Of course. Of course. And I am proud to say that I was not one of the people that listened to the cure, the cure in Depeche mode. I made fun of people that listened to the cure in Depeche mode.
I listened to the exploited dead Kennedys, dead milkmen, all those bands. So I didn't get into the cure in Depeche mode until in my 20s, you know, and I was there when it was going on. We had we had two kids in my high school that listened to the bands that you listened to, neither of which made it through high school. Yeah. That tracks. Yes, it does. I graduated out of summer school and I had to take PE in summer school. So yeah, not a bunch of winners us.
Yeah. A couple of weeks ago or maybe it was even last week, it's all starting to blend together. We did the massive list of all the shows that were coming out in the next couple weeks and months some of which are out already. So, you know, it was kind of like TV Armageddon. We have so much stuff to watch and so little time. And my wife discovered a new show that I think we need to add to the list. It's going to be on Netflix. It's called a man on the inside. It will be premiering.
I believe November 21st. It's got Ted Danson in it and it is done by the same team that did the good place. I watched the trailer. I'm all in. The one thing that they don't it does. What they don't tell you in the trailer though is if it's a series or a movie, you kind of have you infer from how much story there is that they they spoil for you, then it is definitely going to be a series. Yes. But yeah, they don't really tell you that. I had to go big, deep to figure that out. But
I'm definitely adding that one to the queue. It looks like it'll be pleasant. Yeah, it looks like it'll be funny. So you need to watch you need to watch something like that after you listen to the new cure album. Yeah. Yeah. Mon election night. We talked about the diplomat coming back. Season two is out. I went and watched the first episode last night and then I looked at the how many episodes were in the season and last season we got eight episodes. This season we only get six
which is a fucking rip off. Yeah, that sucks. I hate these small seasons. I understand it makes the show better. It's a no, it's not prestigious. Well, you don't get the filler episodes with tribbles anymore. And that's the problem. I like those stupid episodes. I want seasonal episodes. I want a fucking Thanksgiving episode. I want a goddamn Christmas episode. I want all that shit. I want the Beverly fucking a ghost episode. Come on. Even Beverly doesn't want that episode back.
No, no. The funny thing about it is I told you the story off the air, but I can tell a little bit of it here. The economics behind hit shows nowadays are so cannibalistic. I had a friend who worked on a show was a writer. The show won an Emmy. And the first thing that the network did was gut the writing staff because they figured that since the show won an Emmy or several Emmys, that they can now coast on the Emmy wins and don't have to write as well as they used to.
That's that's the thinking that Hollywood has right now. So it's all about getting every penny they can out of everything they have. And it is disgusting. Yep. Agreed. Seems a lot of tech luminaries are airing some dirty laundry and AMAs this week. And this last weekend, Instagram head Adam Boussari shared some insight into why some videos on
the platform appear reduced in quality well after they're posted. And it all boils down to air quotes, performance, and basically the TLDR is if your video isn't getting a lot of plays, we don't give a shit about it. So we crank down the quality. Oh, that's nice of them. Isn't it nice? That's nice. They are definitely supporting their larger creators instead of their small creators. And we're all creators now. And it's because the creator economy. We create
things, try to get paid for them. We don't. And then it gets fed into the AI machine. That's our life now. Nice. Nice. Yeah. They apparently don't give a shit about the long tail. As some videos take longer to percolate than others. No, don't care about that. It's a hit right away or it's not. Yeah. Thanks, Instagram. That's so nice of you. So nice to know that you're putting your thumb on the wheel. Oh, yeah. We're speaking of putting the thumb on the wheel. And we
thought the algorithmic feeds were bad. Mark Zuckerberg has announced plans to integrate more AI generated content into Facebook and Instagram feeds. That's right. During the company's third quarter earnings call, he stated that users can expect a new category of AI generated or AI summarized content as well as existing content curated by AI. At least we think that's what he said because Whisperer did the transcription of the third quarter earnings call. Well, this is actually
relatively smart. Unfortunately, I disagree with it. But you know, there's been this huge thing about news, right, especially with Metta. So I can't repost news stories here in Canada because they haven't they're not going to pay up for news stories. This has been going on in Australia as well and a lot of other places. However, if you're doing AI generated summation of news stories, you get around that whole problem. Don't you? Oh, interesting.
Okay. Well, maybe he's smarter than the rest of us. That's why he's a billionaire. Mm-hmm. No one I'm saying hot or not, bitch. Oh, Brian, Brian, Brian, remember, humane the AI pin that changed the world. Uh-huh. Sure did. Well, the US Consumer Product Safety Commission has announced a recall of approximately 10,500 charging cases for the AI pin due to a
fire hazard. 10,500 people are looking through their box of tech junk right now. So the recall effects unit sold between November 2023 and May 2024, which would be, I don't know, the only time they shipped. Well, no injuries have been reported. There has been one incident of a charging case overheating and melting. So they're they're playing it safe. All right. Otis Chandler, name I'd
never heard of before, he's a co-founder of Goodreads. Mm-hmm. He has launched smashing an AI-powered app that curates web content, including news articles, blog posts and podcasts tailored to user interests. The app introduces an AI questions feature enabling users to explore different perspectives on stories such as political viewpoints or investment analysis. Users can create multiple interest feeds and engage with content through upvotes and downloads refining the app's
recommendations. Also, this was one of the other people that were involved with this is Jeff Vienn, who is web royalty. He was one of the godfathers of web usability back in the day. He was hot-wired. Initially, he'd written a book. I've met him a bunch of times. He was we ran in the same crowds when I was in San Francisco. I expected a hell of a lot more from old Jeff, but I got to say it looks good. It works good. It's like the UI works really well. The app itself is a steaming pile
of dog shit. Have you tried it yet? I haven't tried it. I don't want a while back that was kind of news related. That was very, very similar. And I can't remember what it was called, but what I discovered is I don't want it. I don't want curated news. I just want news. I want to curated myself in my brain in the time so I'm not even a fucking echo chamber. And I'm not only seeing music and soccer news, which is what happens if I let something curate for me. Well, it's supposed to get
smarter, Brian, as you go. It doesn't. It's tailored to your interests. No, you just go down a black hole of specific things and you don't get a big picture anymore. I want the big picture. I don't need this. No, thank you. I could just go fix good reads. Seriously. Why? Why? Why has nobody? I know we say it all the time. Why hasn't somebody rebuilt good reads? But because there's probably no money in this. No money. Yes. Yeah. The only money comes from selling books on Amazon and getting an
affiliate deal. Well, good reads is partnered with owned by Amazon monopoly. Anybody? So try and get, you know, a sweetheart deal from Amazon for selling books on your platform versus good reads. Never going to happen. No. Anyway, that one that we did you're talking about. That was one of the co founders from Instagram. I can't. The name is is playing him on it. I'm blanking on it. I deleted it so long ago. No, we deleted it when they introduced gamification. Oh, yeah. They did
go out of business. I remember that. They decided to shut down whatever the whatever that company was called. Yeah. That's it. Was it called L.O.? No, they're still selling t-shirts. No, actually, L.O. is gone. They are. It's like some kind of teaching app now or something like that. Some kind of nonprofit. I'm blanking on that one too. It's a reading thing. It's a kids reading program. That's it. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. I ran out of shits to give about unfortunately.
But yeah, smashing. I've tried it. And the problem is I do get the same articles over and over again and they're all old. It's not breaking news. I need breaking news. And, you know, I've read everything. I've literally read everything that they've recommended already. So it's like, okay, well, you're useless to me. I'm perfectly happy sticking with Apple news. I just launch it. I don't I don't ever click on anything. I don't give anything a thumbs up or a thumbs down. So I just get
default settings. I want to talk a little bit about set app today because I love set app. There's a link in the show notes to go sign up. We get a little we get a little coin if you do sign up. But I do love it for its own purposes before you're even an affiliate with set app. I've been using it. I was listening to the Mac GeekGab podcast this week, who we also partner with for little scratch my back. I'll scratch yours. But I legit listen to the show too. They talked about
an app called marked that you can get on set app. Marked is a god send for me because I use markdown in some of the apps that I have like obsidian. And trying to get obsidian to export text, the way that I want it does not work period. It is a nightmare to get I have a nice formatted piece of text and obsidian. I want to export it into an email and it gives me all the markdown
shit. And I don't want that. There are things that are supposed to fix that like plugins for obsidian that don't work very well marked on the other hand fixes that problem and lets you export it in a variety of formats. And you can get that on set app today if you want. But I just for the markdown people I talked to some people in our discord chat about this. They have the same problems. And it's a nightmare getting markdown to do what you wanted to do outside the app that
you're in unless the app that you're going to is another markdown compliant app. And you know my love for markdown Brian. I just love it to death. But this week I was going down the route. This all came top of mind because I was just listening to the Mac GeekGab podcast episode the latest one when they were talking about marked because I was I was wrangling with my obsidian subscription for sync. And I paid like $100 last year to enable sync for obsidian across all my
devices. And obsidian is a note taking out where basically all of my knowledge gets dumped into all the notes that I've ever taken all the blog posts everything that I've ever done is in obsidian. And for for that is a wonderful thing. It beats the shit out of everything else beats Ulysses beats craft beats Apple notes beats all of them. The problem is it cost $100. I ain't got that right now. And I was doing the testing. I'm like did Ulysses get any better? No did craft get any better?
No did Apple notes get any better? Yeah somewhat but not good enough. The problem with Ulysses and craft is everybody's moved into this block editing format. I don't know if you've you run across this Brian. We're used to text editors you know where you have you have a paragraph you put your cursor in the paragraph and it puts the cursor you click and the cursor goes right to the spot that
you want it to go. Yes. Nowadays you click a paragraph and it selects the entire paragraph like it's an object and you can drag the paragraph around and all you have to double click to get your cursor to go and sometimes it does it sometimes it doesn't it is it's maddening it is absolutely maddening.
So Google Classroom does that which I've started that my kid is now getting homework and it's done in Google Classroom and I want to throw my fucking laptop out the window every time I'm trying to help him because I'm trying to click in the middle of the thing and I'm putting the cursor right there like human beings do and that's where it's supposed to go it's not supposed to grab everything it's
supposed to go right where I put my cursor. Yeah yeah yeah I don't know if this is just an old thing but it's just the way it should work and this new this new paradigm of no human would stack books like that Jason. So Brian I recommend that you avoid you lissies and craft it's possible yes but sign up today for set up and get marked if you have the same problem link is in the show notes
and shout out to the mac geek at podcast too. Oh by the way I also finally signed up for set up I didn't do it forever but I looked at the price of upgrading my clean my Mac and then versus set up and I went ahead and did set up and by the the new clean my Mac is phenomenal isn't it great it's
a little too pretty I like that part but but it does such a better job it cleaned out so much more stuff off my computer it's great yeah it's really really nice and like I said I use spark mail and spark mail isn't set up too so that was a $40 a year savings you know it adds up so fast it adds
up so fast you end up saving so much money but and I was just gonna say on the the Mac geek at podcast I consider I used to consider myself a super elite Mac user you know I was top of the team you know whatever I could do anything that I wanted to do on my Mac nowadays I'm just kind
of a power user not just a super duper ding dong power user so every time I listen to this I find something new they've got great tips in there so definitely worth a listen if you have a Mac and you just want to learn how to use it better it's fun it's a fun show
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enjoy the series what I will say about it though is I think he got bored with the series because that is one of the fastest fucking endings I've ever read in my life I thought this book was kind of gear it was it was gliding into an end and then I realized that I have like five pages left I think
he just went I'm so fucking tired of of writing this shit but he's done he expands to the ending he totally did it was just like it went from like it could have easily gone another hundred pages and fleshed out some stories more and given a more satisfying conclusion instead it was just like
almost like a man like waving a magic wand and everything solved and we're done here okay thanks so I think that that pretty much killed any idea of this one getting a bought up for a series or a fucking movie because the ending is just wildly implausible and comes out and nowhere
yeah well if the if the guts are good maybe you know they rewrite that shit anyway so or you know they just battle snorkel at it that's true that's true I picked up the new book nexus a brief history of information networks from the Stone Age to AI by Yuval Noah Harari haven't started it
yet because it's going to be a long one I picked it up and I put it back down no but what I did pick up this week and put back down was polo stand the new Neil Stevenson novel I gave it a shot I tried I listened to like the first hour of it on not audible and no absolutely not could not
get into it could not get into the alternate history shit I'm like no yeah I just it's too confusing it's too confusing for my my old ass brain I guess and I just don't care that much I the characters were not that they didn't hook me it did not hook me one bit so all right I don't even think I'm
going to try it then yeah I mean I just I just there's there's a I have a certain threshold for giving a fuck about characters nowadays and Neil just doesn't he does not meet that criteria anymore I'm sorry I used to I loved his old books Diamond Age still one of my favorite cyberpunk novels
of all time yeah snow crash does not have legs by the way but this was just you know not not for me that's all right fair I was a bit worried the Christopher Moore was heading that way as well another one of our favorite authors and because the last few books didn't really grab me as much but he
did announce a new book and judging by the title and the cover I think we're going to get a return to form there okay lamb to kind of lamb to the resurrection I think is it's more in that fool's universe that he did which is pretty good so that's a fun universe yeah yeah yeah that's fun
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I love it give me a dollar I'll do anything I know exactly exactly your rates are reasonable yes they are so I want to jump into some Halloween talk because we are we are recording this on November 1st and I think we probably all three of us had widely varying Halloween experiences
okay okay I'm gonna I'll start off because minus minus very simple and short and and I think we'll we'll lead the discussion here so we don't answer the door on Halloween because of dogs we have scary dog well and now we just have one scary dog sadly miss you band band so we have a
Doverman who terrifies the children so we put the bucket of candy out front this year we bought a nice spooky bucket and we bought an 85 piece bag of candy by the time it went in the bucket it was about a 65 piece bag of candy because you do lose something to snackage on the way yeah yeah
yeah and we always keep the little Hershey bars because we make s'mores so anyway 65 pieces go into the bucket go on the fence last night go out in the morning I like to see what happens um two years ago they stole the bucket last year last year the bucket was still there but there
was one Reese's cup left at the bottom of the bucket we're like who leaves behind a Reese's cup that's like a gold standard tell me about it I go out this morning out of the fifth the 65 pieces that were there they were about 50 left and and and most of which were Reese's cups
you got some weird ass neighbors yeah I'm telling you and I live in a decent normal middle class neighborhood uh-huh here's the problem though I also live next to next door to calabassus yes which is where all of the rich people are so I see caravans that used to stop in our neighborhood
full of kids keep on driving go into calabassus where they have full-size candy bars yes and probably sushi right right sushi chef well please limit yourself to one roll each they answer that they answer the door go trick or treat do you have any food allergies right that's how it
rolls over there yeah so how to go for you guys well um I would say our Halloween is I would describe fairly typical um I live in a townhouse community so that makes it very efficient for kids so they like to come to our neighborhood because houses are very close together um I remember when
I was a kid growing up the first house I lived in like one of those 1960s uh suburbs where you have little tiny houses on acre lots right so by the time you came home you were bathed and sweat from running from door to door kids have they learned they don't do that anymore they come to our neighborhood and uh and on either side of our neighborhood our our other townhouse communities but ours is the nicest of the three so they all come to us because I think we have the best candy
and my wife uh is a full-size candy bar giver um but in our court where I I live um all the neighbors have gotten together and we put up a little tent and we have a table and we put all our different bowls on this one table so the kids can come basically have one stop shopping and just go down the
line and get all their candy and off they go so we make it even more efficient for them to do their thing and move on to where they're going next um my favorite group last night was a group of high school-aged kids who there's four of them three of them were dressed as ghost busters and one was the
state puff marshmallow man nice was the state puff marshmallow man nice so that was that they won the night for me but uh it's very cool yeah so typical uh I'd say we probably had um hmm um hundred people something like that that's respectable yeah yeah uh huh uh huh
all right well I guess it's my turn um we live on one of those streets uh caravans come here the neighbors uh my particular block on our street uh get a a uh permission from the city and uh an permit to shut the street down to fur traffic for four hours starting on five till about nine o'clock
everybody on the street does go to go to outrageous lengths for decorating uh we have a guy that runs up and down the street with a chainsaw notably without the blade in it but fully powered up gas you smell it you hear it's just people scream um it is a big deal we do not do full-size candy
bars because we would not be able to afford the mortgage if we did we bought 1,260 pieces of candy uh they were gone within two hours so we were dark for two hours and we will have to uh increase our candy budget next year I think I'm going to start an investment fund purely for candy
and get another job brother so yeah we uh we have a crazy crazy time for Halloween it is a lot of fun a lot of kids um and uh everybody has a really good time I particularly want to give a shout out to one of my neighbors uh Peter who's about two houses over who sets up an adult drink station
for the parents walking up and down the street uh right I went over with my coffee mug and got some some nice uh heavily heavy poured uh ciders a couple times throughout the night uh when I actually had a break from throwing candy in the bags so yeah it was it was nuts it was pretty crazy
now when you bought the house did you know that you were moving into a destination Halloween location I feel like it should have been disclosed it was not uh one of the first things our new neighbors said to us because we did move in we actually
moved in about three weeks before Halloween when we first moved in and one of the neighbors came over and said you need to go buy candy now oh wow that's when we were informed that Halloween is a bit of a big deal on the street okay so yeah we were not uh it was not disclosed it would not have
deterred us however because my son has been a big fan of Halloween since he was very little and loves it loves it more than Christmas uh I also am a big fan of Halloween my wife kind of size through it all so yeah there's a similar street in Baltimore in Hamden uh part of Baltimore
here that uh they do Christmas that way where the they shut down the street and every home is obligated to be extremely decorated in the high street becomes a a place a destination but you know for I guess they give out candy canes but yeah wow yeah we don't have to do it for Christmas
it was determined that October and Halloween was enough so that I you know we don't have enough storage to put all that kind of stuff away so we do a whole like nightmare before Christmas theme we have like a 12-foot inflatable oogie boogie that we put on our front balcony and you know we've
got the jack and let's just all kinds of stuff it's it's crazy but yeah it's not the front of your house it looks it you did a good job it was impressive oh thank you thank you we work pretty hard on it and spend and outrageous some of money that's fun put it's for the children of course of course
of course we have we have a single uh 12-foot tall ghost that we put on the back of deck we have a our deck back deck is three levels two screened in then one like you know top one that's not screened in so we put the ghost all the way up on the top there and he looks out over the lake that our
house is next to and kind of lords over the lake uh right and then he uh in a couple weeks well he'll come down this weekend then in a couple weeks a 12-foot tall turkey will go up nice place him on the corner and then the 12-foot tall Santa no 12-foot tall bumble from oh nice we're off the
windows ring dear yeah yes and instead of putting the and bumble actually has a star in his hand instead of putting the star on a Christmas tree he's putting the star on the um menorah that sits next to him so that's my wife's thing and yeah so so yeah it's great and uh it's nice to have
a little place that we're basically nothing else is and people seem to like it as they come around the lake you know it's a park and so people enjoy it and they tell us they do so but it's it's nice to it's a nice excuse also to keep it kind of constrained to just have the single ridiculously large
inflatable thing on the corner of a deck that's you know 30 feet above the ground yeah means I don't have to decorate the whole house otherwise you start to slip into griswold territory right exactly you should see our we're fans of the inflatable so we have a 10-foot grim reaper archway that sits in our gateway in the front for the past month so when you come in you have to go through the the big grim reaper which is kind of fun then we've got like you know we've got lots of inflatables
around the yard and I bring out the the big LED floodlights or the houses purple at night and we got we got we do it up pretty pretty decently yeah for crit we don't do anything for Thanksgiving because that that takes away from the eating time but for Christmas we definitely go all out we've got we've got white santa's black santa's white angels black angels we've got a 10-foot tall dreidel that goes in the middle of the yard we hit everybody we could we could find more diversity for for
blowups we would we we do have a we do have a Rudolph Rottweiler that goes in the front yard as well so yeah we do we do it up with the inflatable I think those are the greatest things ever by the way when I bought my bumble last year I was shopping around for inflatable bumbles you know you're
like oh look there's a six-foot bumble that's not big enough oh there's 12-foot bumble all right that'll do just fine you can buy a 40-foot bumble nice yeah yeah it's like two thousand dollars I think but you can buy a 40-foot bumble and believe me you've considered my mind why not well
particularly because I live in a condo association and so just any time that I can just turn the screws a little bit and well and just look it's just it's just a holiday decoration the rules say I can have a holiday decoration so it can have a security camera that's out of code but damn you
can have a 40-foot bumble that's right that's right so just FYI if you're if you're interested they do exist and I think that's a that's a happy thing in this world that you can buy a 40-foot bumble all Walmart up the street has had Christmas decorations up for the past two weeks now
and we're looking for you know to kind of get the jump to see if there's any good inflatables in there and they had one really cool display and we're like oh how much is that one because we wanted another archway to go where the the Grimm Reaper goes we want a good one for Christmas
and we found we had to go through like seven people because we couldn't find a price or anything we finally got a manager and they're like oh that's not for sale we bought that on Amazon wow yeah I think a regional manager came through because it is now gone
oh we don't put stuff up that we can't sell people right make me an offer make sense that's funny well I put in the link here I want to say not long before we recorded today Disney dropped to the official trailer for Skeleton Crew the upcoming Star Wars series with the kids
mm-hmm have you guys watched this trailer I watched uh yes I did watch it um I uh no no said no I know I I think I might be into the show I'm just so taken aback by the fact that Star Wars is rocking major Tom for a trailer yeah yeah I liked that at that like that pushed my
buttons yeah it's good and the fact that they they made their own version of major Tom where they changed the they they're doing it in some Star Wars universe language I thought was especially nice but I mean this is Star Wars's version of the goonies yes and let me tell you I am here for
this like I was just smiling grinning from ear to ear while I watch this from the moment the first note dropped on major Tom I was okay you got me and I am I am ready to go what what I particularly like about the show is this feels like this is the first real Disney uh Star Wars show I'll be able
to watch with my son I think he'll dig this one okay yeah you know I wasn't gonna really care about it but you you had me at Star Wars version of the goonies so I think I might have to check it out now yeah it looks good it does it's um I'm very intrigued it is not at all the show that I
thought it was gonna be I'll put it that way okay yeah yeah yeah well a couple more weeks we'll we'll know okay so I threw in a random one here because I just I want to get you guys take on this because I thought it was funny I had a episode of schmackers with uh that we did where we talked
about is a hot dog a sandwich which is you know the age old question and uh I got voted down on that one so I but I saw this it's called the cube rule of food identification and I think it's let me tell you Jason this took me on a journey yes it does doesn't it I had many emotions while
scrolling through this I I started with uh yeah okay uh then I got oh my god this is kind of genius then I got infuriated um then it brought me back down to hold on a second this may make some sense and then I ended up very very angry yeah it's worth going through uh the the TLDR for me was that
uh a hot dog is a taco no I don't I can live with that I can live with that yeah that that splits the difference of is it a sandwich or not it's a taco well look when you when you get down to a key line pie being a quiche and a corn dog being a cow zone right and a steak being a salad
well that I'm that I'm on board with I can sell that to my wife yeah really I so if it's in your self interest it's fine yes yeah uh and I do like the end humans are just gravioly well worth the scroll I think it is it's well done it's fun uh similar to what Brian
described it was a journey for me as well I think I started out more on board with it but as we went through yeah it became more and more absurd but I think mostly what triggered my anger was this feeling of existential crisis like because there's nothing in here that's wrong if you accept the
framework by which they have decided to categorize and describe things it's completely logical it makes total sense each increasing premise than yes right right so um but I think that's part of what made me uncomfortable yeah I was having to take a take a hard look at myself and how do I think
about things and reassess all of your lives assumptions exactly it makes you question everything it really does uh so yes worth a look a lot of fun do check it out yeah very good very good good indeed definitely fun uh final story that I have for us uh ticks many of the boxes that we talk
about often in here and some that are kind of somewhat personal to me I don't know if I've ever mentioned but my son had developed a peanut allergy at some point he seems to be growing out of it plus we've done some therapy on it so he can actually he eats like two M&M peanuts a day now and we see no ill effects another year when I get him tested he may be out of it completely but for a few years there of our life it was um rather stressful because you basically just have to look online for
things and you worry about like people bake sales and even going to places like say Disneyland which are admittedly pretty good about things because they always have these printed sheets if any of your kids ever have a food allergy or if you do you can go to Disneyland you can go to any vendor that sells food they will have a sheet that lists every single ingredient known allergen that could be in any
single one thing so that makes it a lot easier which is nice uh the other and obviously we're talking about Disneyland we talk about Disneyland all the time now there's a security aspect to this story so a fired Disney employee allegedly altered menus to change allergy markers so this is this
could really screw things up unfortunately uh this guy Michael Schurr was fired by Disney and uh they did not change passwords hence the security issue he used still viable passwords to access a third party created proprietary menu creation and inventory system and over the course of his
misdewings he allegedly changed the allergy information along with adding profanity altering prices and changing the font to wingdings windings is what initially tipped off employees he went one step too far he would have got away with it yeah i was about to get that fucking
sure of that he put in there but uh you know so yeah this guy got busted uh he broke into multiple copies of a third party companies fdp to change allergy markers and altered QR codes etc etc directed a menu to a boycott Israel website so and he also apparently tried to break into Disney
employees accounts nearly eight thousand times so i think this guy was pretty pissed off at the mouse to say he held a grudge yes yeah that's crazy that i'm Brian you've worked for Disney so of i i have Disney security is like i mean it's insane it is absolutely insane how usually good
they are at security i mean i know i know i've been at every level not just not just the park like i have a friend that worked for hollywood records which is owned by Disney so i've been on to the burbank campus and i've been to the to the you know the disney record label which is you think
with this music it's Lucy goosey hell no no i did i did an email news template or an email newsletter template for dancing with the stars one time and i had to fill out 20 forms and get finger printed before i could even get into like a drop box account to be able to upload my template it was
ridiculous yeah Disney is pretty tight on security so the fact that it didn't swap it didn't change passwords immediately or revoke the this guy's account upon getting fired is almost unbelievable to me but apparently so i'm just thinking about your son Brian and like like a dread pirate
Roberts with iocaine powder slowly working to build up a resistance to peanuts it's kind of that's the kind of what it was like we started with it basically they make a peanut solution and you know you start with like five milligrams then you go up to 10 milligrams and we got all the
way to actual physical peanuts where we would you know way out 10 grams and 20 grams and yeah it's been like a two-year process but he seems to have come out of it now so although you know just to be safe all the Reese's peanut butter cups he brought home from trick-or-treating last night
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