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The Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFillippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame. Oh, disgusting. But everybody else in the family likes them. In retrospect, four or five months ago when we decided to schedule, like every doctor's appointment known to man this first week that we were back because kids' school starts next week, not a good idea.
Oh, I'm so exhausted and there's piles of crap everywhere and we're just running around like crazy. There's been a bit of discussion recently about healthcare in our discord and I'm not going to weigh into that debate right now, Canada versus US. But I do want to point out one thing. There's the same no matter what country you're in. The complete inefficiency and cluster fuckery of government construction.
How does that tie into healthcare? Well, you know, the debate was between Canadian and socialist healthcare systems versus the US and all that sort of thing. But one thing that is the same as this construction process.
If you recall, Jason, before I even left Canada, then I was gone for over a month. They are working on our street. They had replaced our sidewalks and the curbs and all that sort of thing. And we figured, okay, well, we're going to be gone for a month. Surely they will have the street done in that time. Don't call me surely. They hadn't even started. Oh, my God.
Not a bit of work until yesterday. And of course today, it's one of those things where we have the car parked outside just because it's quick and easy to get going. 930, some guy rolls up knocks on my door and says your car needs to be gone within the next 15 minutes. I'm like, if we had normal jobs, none of us would be here. Why couldn't you pull this yesterday when we were all walking around and you had people up and down the street.
It's just a mess. Anyway, so it's loud noise today. It's going to be what it's going to be. Yeah. Well, it's 630 in the morning here on garbage day because of your kids, you know, for mentioned health care visit. So it is 630 AM here in lovely Los Angeles, which is garbage day. And so there might be some banging around here too. But it's 630 in the morning. And for me, I always I always wake up with some song stuck in my head. I get an earworm every day.
I don't know what it is. And today it was the theme song from the monkeys. Hey, hey, we're the monkeys. Yep. Yep. That's the one couldn't get rid of it. And the monkeys had some bangers, man. They were a good, good band. I mean, a great band in my opinion. So then I got last train to Clark'sville stuck in my head. And then I just started to think about.
There's a note in here about us being old and we'll get to that shortly. And I was just thinking about man, I remember when, you know, just a date us. I remember when we found out about new music from dead tree magazines that would come out once a month. And thinking about kids nowadays. And how they find new music. Oh, it's just pushed directly to their ear holes from AI notifications from their, you know, talk that run the internet and the bot the tic tocks and all that shit.
Like we had to wait a month just to see pictures of a band we couldn't listen to. Yeah, I mean, there was a lot to be said about the mystery. I definitely think that that was a big part of it. Like I love all that stuff. Yeah, man, select magazine, Q magazine, all the English magazines that I would have to find is like the import new stand agents that you could find somewhere.
Some occasionally Barnes and Noble would have them. And I remember that and go back to that Barnes and Noble all the time. I'm sure you're familiar with this place. The new stand over and over an Beverly Drive. You know, we've all been there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, don't forget that secret session tiger beach. You used to keep under your bed. That was my sister. I'm sure you peaked. Well, you know, got to see what the kids are up to even then.
Yeah. So I put a monkeys playlist in the in the show notes over at Spotify. If you want to go get your nostalgia on. All right. Yeah. I'm a believer in Lester and the Clarksville. If you don't know who the monkeys are, start with those two great songs. You know, to tie this into sci fi geek re that check offs character was based on Dave Jones. The look. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Then the reason they actually cast him and put him into the show was to catch the young monkey's love and crowd.
Yeah. I remember that. Check out. He's still around. He's still around. Yes, he is. All right. We got some Weimo followed from friend of the show Chen. So she was I'm going to read this verbatim. She texted me the other day. Was just listening to GOG and heard something about Weimo. I've taken it maybe five times already with different friends and fam visiting SF. All five rides were surprisingly smooth gentle on the brakes and were able to respond to unexpected cars and pets very well.
Very impressed. I must say they are everywhere in SF now like one in every seven cars in the city. I had no idea. Brian that they were that ubiquitous. That's crazy. They cost a little more than lift and Uber, but not by much. Still seeing a car drive by itself is freaky as fuck for sure. Now to be fair, there has been a great exodus of San Francisco.
That's true. That's true. A lot of the normal traffic is long gone. She continues. I was very scared during my first ride and really got used to it afterwards. David was super impressed to David being Dr. and a friend of the show and previous guest. People who ride it regularly say they enjoy not having to interact with the driver. Oh yeah, it lets you pick music too.
Would love for you to try it when you're in town. Oh, and you get to ride in the front too. So now I totally didn't even think about the introvert aspect of the fact that there is no driver that you have to talk to. I'm like, sign me up right now. This is why I am desperately waiting for my robot hairdresser. Yes, oh God, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. If I have to listen to one more hairdresser tell me that they love Joe Rogan after they find out I'm a podcaster.
Well, don't tell them anything, Jason. I don't have anything else to say because I don't do anything else. So she says, once the car shows up, you unlock the door with your phone and the entire experience, at least for my five rides was pretty seamless. So I asked her what the turnaround time was from the call to the pickup and she says it's relatively quick.
And they have recently added more cars to San Francisco too, but before one needed to be on the waiting list for way mode, now you can just download the app and hail the ride right away. And I did see this morning in my news feeds that they are testing Waymos on the highways in San Francisco. So she said she still can't go any more than five miles from, you know, where she's going to go because it's so kind of trippy.
But yeah, they're they're testing it with employees right now. So, you know, I think San Francisco might actually be the perfect place just because of, as you mentioned, Brian, the aforementioned Exodus. Yeah, especially downtown, like downtowns, a ghost town, perfect place to try to test these things out. Yeah, all their employees.
I'm sure and I'm sure the Waymos have man poo detection. Yeah, well, you definitely just be careful. Yeah, I'm going to try one when I get to San Francisco, not San Francisco, because I don't know when I'll get to San Francisco, but they have been Santa Monica now. So, yeah, I might next time I'm over there. I might try one just for shits and giggles, you know.
What's the worst they could drive me into the ocean? Yeah, well, clean off the cleans off the man poo from the tires. It definitely does and there is man poo in Santa Monica. And I have seen the Mythbusters episode of how to get out of a car that goes into the water. So I should be okay. Maybe.
Now, here's something that's not being covered in the news and I don't know if I know I wasn't hallucinating, but I came out of my office the other day and cruising down Ventura Boulevard was an LAPD fucking cyber truck. I'm not surprised. But it's not in the news anywhere. Right. LAPD has not acknowledged it. There's no pictures of it anywhere. And then I got to thinking maybe just maybe it was a movie prop.
Because there's an abandoned mall right up the street for me and that's where they film a shit ton of the TV show SWAT. So they may have dolled one up for SWAT, I think. That is the only thing that I could think of because it is nowhere in the news, but this was this was straight up in LAPD cyber truck by jaw hit the floor and I couldn't get my phone out fast enough to get a picture. I was so bomb. I'd have been I had a scoop Brian a scoop a scoop. Yeah, just one quick thing on the cyber truck.
Burglers now discover that you can peel the cyber truck windows just to get in the inside without setting off the alarm. I saw this video and my jaw dropped seems like a bit of an oversight. But especially since they claim that those windows are just you know bomb proof. Well, you can drop a J.M. on the cyber truck and they stop bullets, but you can peel them off.
Actually, if you're in a firefight because you can just peel off the thing and then use it as a shield as you try to get to a different location. Ah, that's true. That's true. It is mobile feature not a bug Jason. Yeah, this guy just cracked the window which shattered it, you know, because it's tempered glass and then he just literally peeled it down jumped in and grabbed the the backpack that was in the passenger seat.
So I have to say to all my cyber truck listeners out there always keep your junk in the front. Fair. Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay, and Tesla is back in the news because they have deleted all their blog posts from previously to 2019. Apparently the Warner Brothers let's delete everything bug has caught them too. Well, this includes a blog post from 2016 stating that all Tesla cars being produced had full self driving hardware.
So they're just basically there. They're trying to bury the bodies and cover up the evidence at this point. They don't I don't think that they anticipated we have this thing called the way back machine. Well, what do you think Elon's purchasing next Jason? That's true. I can find the way back machine archive.org is next. But don't tell them you can actually get your website out of the way back machine by just putting in a simple robots dot TXT exclusion.
They actually do do that which pisses me off because all my old sites that got bought by domain squatters use the robots dot TXT file. So I can't get to any of the old stuff from spew. You can't get to any of it because now that there's a site that there's a robots file on there now. Even though there wasn't one then they were they you know go with what is there now which really just bombs me out. Don't you don't you have an archive on a CD somewhere that probably won't work anymore.
See, that's the problem. I did have a bunch of archives and the CDs failed. Then I got whatever I had. I put into some tarballs and then in back those up and then when I tried to untar them half of them came back with nothing in them. So I might have a copy of my stuff from spew on a zip drive somewhere. Yeah, maybe maybe you got to find a drive. Yeah, I got to I do have I did have some cyclists back in the day with some spew stuff on them.
But I do have your stuff actually if you ever want to read it which I don't recommend probably not know. I read some of my stuff from back then too and it's like oh god, that's right. I was in my early 20s. You don't want to read that stuff. Can run it through shat jpe day and make it better. One quick note I had on the Riverside affiliate program. This is pissed me off so much this week.
Riverside is the technology that we use to record this program and since 2021 I've been a Riverside affiliate. And so I send people their way not many because which will become very apparent right now turns out I they got a notice of Hey, you got another affiliate payout for $22. So I went to like go check your dashboard and I'm like okay, I just assumed that they would paypal me the money like they've been doing forever.
So I click on the dashboard and I've turns out they've never paypaled me a cent because there's a minimum $200 payout on their affiliate marketing program which is unheard of. I mean most of them you have a slider you can you can set so you don't get multiple payouts if you're getting a lot of volume you know $25. $50 $100 never seen $200 in that pull down and I've never had an affiliate program keep my money for more than one calendar year. They always pay out by the end of the fiscal year.
Yeah, usually you want it off the books. Nope, these guys have kept my cash since 2021. So they owe me $115 and 20 cents which I desperately need. So I just got in touch with the Riverside affiliate program and they're run by a third party company and they say hey, oh, it's not up to us. Why don't you talk to Riverside? So I sent it over to Riverside and Riverside just sent me back a blog post that said hey, here's the terms you have to reach a minimum $200.
And there's no date on that post by the way. So I don't know if that was there in the beginning or not. I may have missed it which would have been on me but I let them know. I'm like, you know what? This is a really stupid fucking policy. You might want to change your payout thresholds and they're like, yeah, we'll pick about it. Poo-poo-moji. Have a nice day. Have a nice day.
So if you're going to sign up for any affiliate programs, make sure you read the fine print or you could be stuck with them having your money for quite some time. Yeah, it's like working for the music industry. Yeah. Oh, gladly pay you 25 years from now for work done today. Yep, yep. It's funny. My roommate has a call with a royalty extraction specialist who goes out and finds owed royalties from artists who have had legacy legacy music. Yeah, sounds. Yeah.
Yeah, we've got some friends who have got some money stashed away that the labels won't give them. So how timely of that, right? And I wanted to follow up a little bit more on our t-shirt experiment, which is coming very soon because I finally cracked all of the codes to make a t-shirt store, which actually is not as easy as you think it would be Brian. No, it does get complicated, doesn't it? Extremely fucking complicated.
So I have my first shirt store is online. It's at sober outfitters.com. You can get some clever shirts about recovery. If you're into those sorts of things, which I highly recommend it if you are because there's some some bangers for your next meeting in there. Highly recommend go checking those out and picking up a shirt from me. I could really use it since Riverside isn't paying me anymore. Did you check the threshold on the payouts? Yes, I did. Okay.
I did. I've actually I sold four shirts already and I got paid out in 72 hours. Nice. Okay. Yep. So that brings us to the point, Brian, that hopefully by the next episode we should have a shirt store up. All right. Great. Yeah. Now that I've cracked the code and I can do this without the three weeks and four weeks of sitting there going back and forth between Printful and Shopify and the other shit that I have to go back and forth with. Yeah.
But now that I got it down, it's actually really fun making shirts. I'm interested in it. Not terribly profitable, but fun. Yes. No. Yeah. And I use a design tool for some of them called Kittle KITL.com. Brian, this thing is amazing. It is all web based, all vector based. And it is like, you just got to see it to believe it. It was created by the people who made heritage type. Okay. Typography company. And I saw in a long time ago, I'm just like, oh, this is just, no, this isn't for me.
And then I, it has been growing since then and I went back and checked it out because I was trying to find one of the fonts that I bought from them. And I had a trial going. So I just tried it. And I was just like, holy shit, you can do the whole process there. It's great. They've got templates for creating shirts from all of the different print on demand services. So you just pick your template and then just start dragging shit around. Hit export and boom, Bob's your uncle.
It's great. Excellent. I'll have to check it out. Yeah. Yeah. I'll put a link in the show notes. All right. We'll go buy some shirts everybody and Mark wrote in. Sigh. There are not many days that I feel old hearing that Lucas was turning eight was one of those.
Considering that I started listening before Jason moved to Chicago, I would say which time and when you started talking about some of my favorite places in Santa Monica, I've been listening and supporting for a while, the realization of life's passing was a shock. Regardless, thank you for the many, many years of joy. Yeah, this was a mirror in a bit on our discord as well. People talking about, oh my God, how is how is Brian's kid eight years old already.
You think you guys are shocked try being me. Yeah. Yeah, just saying. I was talking to my dad on my birthday this year and I turned 53. I can't believe I'm 53 and he's like, you can't believe you're 53. I can't believe I have a 53 year old son. So. Everyone needs a world class VPN Grumpy old geeks recommends private internet access to protect your online privacy and identity.
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Well the big news in tech this week is Pavel Durov the CEO of telegram who is arrested in airport near Paris on Saturday as part of a preliminary investigation into the apps lacks approach to moderation and failure to curb criminal activities. According to Reuters which cited the French news outlet BFM TV and TF one. They are also reportedly being accused while the company is reportedly being accused of not cooperating with police.
They released a statement telegram divides by EU laws including the Digital Services Act its moderation is within industry standards and constantly improving it said. So yeah this came out and everybody was kind of like well what the actual F then on Sunday afternoon telegram posted a statement to its official news channel and on next stating that CEO Durov has nothing to hide and that is absurd to claim that a platform or its owners are responsible for abuse of that platform.
Now if there's one thing I've learned Jason is when when an entity releases a statement saying that they have nothing to hide. They have to hide. They've got stuff to hide. So we've had learned a little bit more since then the French authorities have shared the reason why behind the arrest at this point and it's not good 12 charges in total including money laundering drug trafficking fraud running an online platform that allows legal transactions and possessing child pornography.
Now there's a lot of back and forth about this there's a lot of outcry and I was kind of there initially as well I was like I don't know how you hold the CEO personally personally responsible for a company if anything you find the company lots of money not just coffee money this is the way you go about it. But when you get into the he himself actually had child pornography that's where it becomes a problem and now I'm like okay arresting him seems okay to me now.
Yeah they actually filed the charges on him yesterday so he is he is out on bail 500,000 euros can't leave France. Yeah tough. You can't take you can't take his underpants out of France. So it's going to be interesting to see what they what they do with them because.
Interesting. Yeah I mean again I I agree with a lot of the people that are that were very upset about this saying you know you can't hold the CEO responsible for what a company does you you have to go after the company and I do agree with that but apparently you know obviously there might be stuff that he himself has done that is very not cool.
So I'm not a hashtag three pop along with everybody else these days. So yeah hashtag let's let's let's let the process run and see what this guy is done if anything. Yeah and this this was a ticking time bomb on him even if he didn't have the CSAM thing going on. The fact that it is such a wild west you know it's a Russian thing so it's so yeah it is very popular in Russia. Yeah so the thing about it is it's like if France didn't get him somebody was gonna you know.
Yeah I mean you just have to look at like the Bitcoin exchanges and the cryptocurrency exchanges and all of that too so. Yeah I'm what is the intention of your product and and if you are aware of the fact that is basically being used for illegal activities do you have a couple of building and at some point I think you do so yeah yeah I mean they've got their own cryptocurrency back end for you know buying things on the platform.
Yeah and then you can take that out and and you know move it to a different exchange and change it for actual real money not the fake money so it's it's there's a lot of things going on there that even if they weren't illegal they were sus and like I said this was going to happen at some point they were going to
get Snowden a song him at some point he was not going to he wasn't getting out on the course who's defending us Snowden yeah yeah yeah indeed indeed Zuckerberg is in the news recently this is a headshaker he wrote a letter to basically a congressman saying that hey you know we're trying to be nice over here and the Biden administration was mean to us.
And they tried to censor us and yeah it's just it's uncool bro trying to figure out like what he's really trying to play that is is a headscratcher so he wrote this to Jim Jordan who's a Republican from Ohio trying to you know basically curry favor with the Republicans don't know why I haven't figured that one out yet because the Republicans are against regulation end of story. Yeah well.
It's the most it's mostly about money Jason that's it always about money it just trying to just trying to follow the money on this one is what's really weird because it did totally backfire because the people that hate Zuckerberg hate him more and the people who didn't hate Zuckerberg and hate him more now so it's made no no sense in the thing is he was saying the government tried to censor them which they really weren't they were asking him because it is a private company
and they didn't censor him they asked him nicely maybe not so nicely and he even says ultimately it was our decision whether or not to take down content it was his decision so he's bitching about it you know in this open letter saying that well we were censored we were censored no you weren't you did it yourself so shut the fuck up and go back to me and ask hole like you already were I love the fact that is basically we're going to stay neutral this election
but I'm going to write a Republican senator in an open letter saying the Democrats suck exactly what exactly that seems pretty neutral to me they had to have had meetings Brian Zuckerberg didn't just go into a ketamine fueled rage and write this that would be Elon no you have no idea why Zuckerberg actually talks to his lawyers first unlike like musk so yeah I I'm I'm curious like you know
since Carol Sandberg is gone like what's really going on over there now because she was his guard rail and his you know yeah she was his dick cheney you know so who's who's pulling the strings over there yeah she kept his dick chain oh nice one nice one thing moving on moving on Uber has received its largest fine to date with the Dutch data protection agency issuing a $290 million pound or about $324 million dollar penalties of the right share company
they found that Uber took account details taxi licenses location data photos payment details identity documents and more from European drivers and transfer them to servers at their US headquarters for over two years
they didn't use any transfer tools when we'll assume they what just email them I don't know a decision that Dutch DPA is deemed caused inefficient protection so GDPR protects the fundamental rights of people by requiring businesses and governments to handle personal data would do care which would not include emailing them
Uber does not meet the requirements of the GDPR to ensure the level of protection to the data with regard to transfers to the US and that is very serious sitting the Dutch accent gas gas that's a big fine that's not that's not a coffee money no especially for Uber yeah you know it's not like they're profitable or anything well they had that one quarter Jason they had that one quarter that one quarter yep I just wanted to where they're still getting all this money from
I don't know anymore it's weird yeah yeah they you know they they stocked up quite a bit yeah that's true so we'll see we'll see how that goes the NTSB has sent a team to investigate a investigate a California crash involving a Tesla semi had to put a mic on this one I have not seen a Tesla semi on the road have you no I have not I would know that cyber trucks yeah you would know a Tesla semi they're very distinct looking but they are on the road and they've been on the road for quite a
while now and I did some investigating into into the site into the Tesla semi I was just hit a cyber semi but it's not that so the basically the long in the sort of this one is there was on August 19th near immigrant gap northeast of Sacramento one of the semi's went off the road hit some trees and caused the battery to go boom the
fire reached 1000 degrees emitting toxic fumes and continued to burn until the late afternoon forcing firefighters to basically wait till it burned itself out wow yeah these things get hot so the NTSB is involved in this because they're trying to figure out what's you know how they can fix fix this in the future for firefighters and they've made statements in the past to manufacturers of high voltage electric vehicles with these batteries and say that hey you guys need to give us some
instructions on how to put this shit out and basically Tesla's PR department just said they should pour a bucket of poop emojis on the fire and leave them the hell alone but because there's really no way to deal with these things at this
yeah because it's exactly why they didn't want all those like well were those those hovercraft those hoverboards on airplanes for a while oh yeah those things were popping poppin like it's hot you know so I did look at like I said I looked into these Tesla semis they're they're actually kind of cool because the the driver seat is in the center of the truck so God forbid if you want a passenger pick up a prostitute at the truck stop it for in the morning like a self-drive man you just
lean back it doesn't self-drive though Brian that's all Tesla's according to that blog post I think Tesla cars oh yeah I don't there's no there's no mention of self-driving capabilities on the website there is lane keeping and you know adaptive cruise control and things like that but they go out of their way not to say that they're self-driving into the in the semis because I think that would open up a much bigger camera yes yes because there are a lot more regulations on trucks
and yes there are yes there are but it's kind of cool because the cockpit looks literally like a cockpit you got the big the big screens up on either side with blind spot cameras which you know if I was driving next to a Tesla semi I would actually feel a little safer than just a regular
yeah because you know but it definitely not driving I feel safer next to a semi a Tesla semi then I would next to a cyber truck let's just say that agreed well I was catching back up on some Canadian news as I'm back here and if I wanted to snap up a Chinese EV
not that I would want to because I don't trust their batteries I trust them even less than Tesla's batteries but no not going to be happening I have until October 1st basically and then the Canada will impose a hundred percent tariff on electric vehicles built in China
which is basically identical to the one the White House established in the US earlier this year these Sirtax applies to electric cars trucks buses and delivery vans as well as some hybrid models Canada will also charge a 25% tariff on Chinese steel and aluminum starting on October 15th so you're welcome Mr. Musk there you go yeah seriously I have not see I don't know if any Chinese EVs
that come to mind well that's because they're expensive to get in well they were just starting to like get ready to ship them out right apparently they're all pretty good like there's if you do Google some reviews and stuff and you'll see like people going through these EVs and they're made cheaper
they're cost a lot less and they're pretty efficient now God knows what the batteries are like and again regulations on building things and all that sort of stuff so there could be very good reasons for these tariffs and attempts to kind of keep them out of the market places over here for now but you know it's basically there's a reason Tesla has not done well in the Asian market right probably because we're trying you know this tariff is like we're trying we're trying to repatriate the funds
because all of these Chinese EVs were basically probably hard designs stolen yes from corporate espionage and they're making the good stuff over there and trying to sell it back to us so that that seems like it's more plausible than anything else so we're seeing we're basically seeing they're selling the next gen Tesla's that Tesla hasn't been able to make yet because of the regulations here so this is NFTs are starting to really hit the news this week which is very interesting
well Trump released a new one right that was yeah so you've got to fleece these people a bit more because doesn't look like you're going to win the election get some money now see I wasn't even going with him but thanks for reminding me that he's back on the back on the NFT trail great another reason not to buy any Jonathan Mann who's a musician known for creating a new song daily since 2013 is actually suing the US securities and exchanges commission
over their approach to NFTs so basically the SEC has been going after NFT providers saying that they're unsecured or unregulated securities mostly because of the stupid games that people were trying to make out of it you know all of them I was going to name a few but let's just say all of them
Jonathan is very upset because his music keeps getting kind of looped into this as part of part of the problem and he's saying look this is one of the ways that I can actually make money as an artist selling two fans they can give me money and taking that off the table for me sucks honestly it just sucks because we're not trying to do anything out of bounds we're not making any stupid you know cat things or shit like that is like I'm selling you an NFT a limited edition NFT of my song
we're not saying it's going to go up or down in value it's just a way for fans to own a piece of my music and do whatever I'm like okay that sounds fine to me I see no problem with that me either so you know he's he's filed soup so they've got 60 days to respond to the lawsuit and we'll see how that goes but the SEC is kind of busy right now because this morning came across my news feed that remember our favorite our favorite place to buy NFTs Brian open see
open see yes yes open see is basically they're going after the SEC is going after open see they've issued a Wells notice to open see and there's a lot going on over there right now so this is this is opening old wounds as you know I would be shocked to find out that open sees business wasn't on the up and up well turns out I wasn't about to shock you I was about to shock you
it's a bit worse it comes down to everything we've always talked about about NFTs bitbrows and the entire quote unquote industry behind it yeah they're just not very good people and they do really shady shit so open see CEO Devon Finzer wrote in a post that the company was shocked the SS shocked us I do declare shock the SS he would make such a sweeping move against creators and artists but they are ready to stand up to the fight
so yeah Wells notices typically one of the final steps before the SEC issues formal charges so it lays out the framework and the regulatory arguments against them well twist my bridges Jason I do declare I am surprised yeah it's going to be more of this next episode I'm sure but this is just the first shot across the bow
towards open see so I don't know if Jonathan has has really poor timing or really great timing we're going to see how this kind of plays out but NFTs are back baby just not the way that most people want them to be who stole probably are hodling their NFTs right I had to do Vinnie on this next one I just got a chuckle out of this Google Ireland yes South Dublin County Council has denied Google Ireland
planning permission for a new data center at Grange Castle business park citing insufficient capacity in the electricity grid and a lack of on site renewable energy so Brian it turns out the United States isn't the only third world first world country so the proposed development which would have been the third phase of Google's data center
campus including a 72 thousand square meter facility with eight data halls and was expected to create 800 construction jobs and 50 operational jobs 72 thousand square meters of data center they're only going to have 50 people running it well let me tell you a little something about Ireland and tech companies chasing the reason that tech companies like to go to Ireland is because of the advantageous tax advantages that one gets an Ireland basically not paying very much tax at all
however as part of the requirement for that you have to jump through many Irish hoops some of which include a certain percentage of actual Irish employees and 50 probably being the absolute minimum required for Google to have this operational center and get their tax benefits
all right what was the there was a tech company that was above the Guinness brewery I think it was creative labs oh my name is some reason I've heard the name creative labs in years well that's because back then we're you know we had a lot of re-writeable CDs
and they wrote some of the the first CDR writing software I believe if memory serves yeah I think well they also did some of the first sound sound bars and all are not sound bars but sound cards and all that sort of stuff that's it yeah yeah yeah he used to buy them all the time put them in my PC yeah well let me tell you something that Google might want to look into although I'm not sure how much it's going to help in Ireland
which is perpetually rainy and cloudy but if you have sun this would be a good thing and mark my words the next time I fly over into Los Angeles coming back from Toronto given the sheer number of actual self storage places there are in Los Angeles and the you know ever present sun if I do not see gazillions gazillions of solar panels winking off of every single public storage as I fly into Los Angeles I'm going to be pissed
so this is pretty cool a company electric or sorry electric I guess is the trade agency is reporting that a solar energy company is renting 8.5 million square feet of roof space from the national storage affiliate trust conveniently called the NSA buildings for it's a new as solar panel project
so they own a whole bunch of public store or storage facilities and basically this company is going all right we'll rent your roof space we want to stick solar panels across all of them this across 42 states in Puerto Rico and it's expected to produce at least 100 megawatts of solar capacity pretty fucking great idea I like this a lot so they will not just generate power for the facilities themselves the panels will also provide clean power to nearby businesses and homes at a discounted price
win win as far as I'm concerned look there's 450 self storage places within a 12 square block radius of my home and the sun basically sits right atop woodland hills yes and you know what my do you know what our electricity bill was last last electricity bill Brian take a guess
it's got to be massive because you've got to have the AC on 24 seven take a guess of 500 bucks 1700 dollars Jesus H Christ that's why I need Riverside to send me my fucking payout you also need this you need this company to put solar panels on the on the storage place
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that's LinkedIn dot com slash trial for 60 day free trial let LinkedIn sales navigator help you sell like a superstar today just go to LinkedIn dot com slash trial and get started media candy Brian you're talking about Ted Lasso in the last couple weeks has been they've been listening they it's for two of us they've heard they've heard the cry Brian
apparently I got the soccer ball rolling yeah season four might be coming back now this is still a might because everybody's reporting Ted Lasso season four is happening it's not happening yet if what they're doing is they're tapping all of the cast the you know still they still have some contracts with and some they don't they're trying to put the pieces together to put season four together
surprisingly though Jason today because has not said anything yet so and he's the linchpin but he must have given some kind of nod because they wouldn't be doing this without it but we're going to see if this comes to fruition unfortunately
Jamie will not be yes Phil Dunster who played Jamie Tarte will not be able to come back he's already committed to other shows but you can some cameos you might do some cameos may I mix feelings about this having just rewatch the entire three seasons of season three
yeah it was fine but there's no like season one and two they caught some lightning in a bottle there and I don't know about this I can't possibly see it being as good I just can't this is one of those ones where I think I would if I were if I were them if I were a Brett or if I were Jason
today because I would I would take the win take the bow and walk away well what they're speculating is it's going to be more about the side characters not so much about Ted so yeah yeah I don't know how I feel about that either that was part of the big problem with season three there was that whole early was a yeah whole arc that had nothing to do with the soccer team or Ted that just failed miserably and yeah I don't know
yeah I would rather they didn't do this personally and it's kind of like it's kind of like say hey would you like another another season of Game of Thrones no I would know no no I don't yeah speaking of things that I'd rather people wouldn't do the Gallagher brothers have finally gotten back together it is definitely not a maybe oasis are reuniting for a UK and Ireland tour that could be one of the most lucrative ever with tickets being hyped as the hottest of the
decade yes old people are getting their Taylor Swift okay I I never liked oasis I'm not a big fan either it is my wife's favorite band she I'm going to be we are going to be spending so much fucking money one question people are asking is why the most obvious motivation is money which will be coming out of my pocket and into the Gallagher brothers
they have had somewhat successful solo careers I mean they just they can't do no wrong in England anyways so you know whatever but Birmingham City University estimate that the initial 14 dates announced could bring into 400 million pounds and ticket sales and other add-ons with Liam and know both in line to net
50 million pounds each they monetize that nostalgia on the scale he added they'll probably make more money from these gigs than they did in the entire 90s and I would like to remind everybody in the 1990s we bought CDs for 1995 yeah no shit they made a lot of money so I guess in there not on universal you can't get free tickets they are not on universal yes we have we we she is signed up for the
ticket lottery we are up at 3 a.m. on on Friday evening when tickets go on oh my god you guys have to do it like the unwashed masses how sad it's so it's so demeaning all that all that music industry juice and you got to get up like the rest of us we have as much music industry experiences this podcast has tech experience and combined years and we're fucked we get nothing nothing well people that do know how to call it quits the grand tour has reached the end of the road
September 13th we'll see the final episode of the grand tour Jeremy Clarkson Richard Hammond in James May one last time I will watch it just out of nostalgia and for many fans the time spent watching the trio goes back to the early 2000s this is when we start to feel really old Jason
they formerly hosted top gear like the year 2000 still feels like five years ago to me okay yeah it does really does so they've been hosting car shows together for a period spanning 22 years the final episode of the grand tour starting the trio we streamed on September 13th
it will be a one-off special and there is a teaser trailer out now it doesn't look great but whatever I'll watch the last one because I love top here never really care about the first grand tours were okay ish I don't know I tell you what it peaked at the intro for the first grand tour when they were they were in the desert and all the people and everything you know a little tear fell about your eye like they're back and then they then they failed
when they gave up on the show format and they did the first of like the big specials that the first one or two of those were pretty good but then it was finishing returns so the same joke over and over again was the problem yeah really is so I found that Clarkson's was much more engaging than any of the stuff I never got into the other two shows Richard Hammond has the great scapest with him and Tony Belichi from Mythbusters and yeah James the most the most unloved to Mythbusters
and James May has our man in the travel show but James May by himself is very boring so yeah really is that boring I watched like one episode of him in Japan and I was just like you made Japan boring how do you do that how do you do that I'm like this one country I always wanted to go to and now you've you've sully the whole thing oh yeah this will be interesting this will be interesting they they they work together for 22 years Brian you and I have worked together for 11
and we had nowhere near the success I don't know what it is we started with our our grand tour phase we're hoping to get to the top of the first year yet yeah god damn it we never had a stick we never had a stick we need a stick isn't bitten or our stick kind of I guess where is he he's not here today damn it had to bear it on this one because he was the first person to send this to be out of the several thousand that followed
Martin Schreley is back in the news and he must surrender his Wu Tang clan album copies yes former farmer exec and still one of the most low the sum humans to be shot into existence martin Schreley must surrender his copy of once upon a time in Shaolin that he made when he wasn't supposed to illegally following a federal judges in junction the NFT collective and more NFT news please are Dow
great name current owners of the album suge schreley alleging he kept unauthorized copies and planned to release them violating court orders so yes he has been known to play little bits here and there on his discord channel or his twitch channel or whatever channel he's on this day so he finally got busted so he's got until August 30th the declare he's handed over all copies until September 30th to disclose any distribution details and profits so okay
go see if he does it he's such a twat I don't know if he will or not he is I just take a job with accent call it a day seriously seriously all right I've gotten early morning on a plane edition of media candy for me flying back from Los Angeles to Toronto I watched a wonka and and it was surprisingly good oh okay took me a long time to kind of get over Timothy Shalame I don't like the guy hashtag not my Paula tradies hashtag not my willy wonka
but once I was able to kind of meld into it and I have to admit he did a phenomenal job he personified it there were some some definite like yeah it I actually tear it up a couple points it was good oh my god it was really good I like it I did like it a lot and I've got to say Hugh Grant as the crores the grumpy umpa lupa fucking chef's kiss it was awesome okay I might have to check it out yeah it's it's worth the watch it's surprising I was
surprised I I was legitimately surprised I went into it expecting to hate it and I came out of it actually quite enjoying it so all right then I went back to the apple TV plus air Canada crossover event that's going on where they stream the first three episodes of all their shows that they've got going on because it was slim yeah pickings I watched a palm royale because it looked somewhat interesting it's about Palm Beach high
society it's got an amazing cast like these women are all phenomenal not for me okay not for you or man's white lotus the less interesting than that I mean it's all this is made for women for sure my wife might really enjoy this I do not but Allison jane does I mean she's the star of this for sure
she's the star of everything that she's in yeah as you just have to show up she's fine yeah she shows up and she's amazing and she was amazing in this but it's just not enough for me to to watch any more of that and then I watched Steve Martin a documentary in two pieces now this ends up being almost like four hours long so I watched a bit of it on the plane and I finished it at home Steve Martin is a compelling interesting strange man and this documentary is well worth the watch it's really
interesting he's just he's a national treasure in his own weird ass fucking way yeah I really like Steve his autobiography was awesome I just still can't watch only murders in the building but I like Steve yeah yeah so the great documentary well worth watching yep we've got some starfleet Academy news yeah they're in production they had their first table read and there's a picture over on X so there's a link to that in the show notes and they're saying it's I mean it looks pretty good and
here's the fun part I didn't realize that Robert Piccardo was back in the show I must have missed the news or I forgot that we recovered it right but you know he was the doctor on Voyager yeah I don't know he was a hologram I don't know hologram doctor to yeah but but he aged since then so
learning professor style yeah I guess so I guess they will age his his avatar as well either way or maybe they'll play him as the the actual person it was based on but no they can't do that because the timeline wouldn't work no it would not work at all so and speaking of Robert Piccardo he just
won the day because Elon Musk twatted out or shatted out or whatever you call it now he said let's make Starfleet Academy real in Robert Piccardo right back first step support a leader that embodies starfleet values like diversity inclusion and ethical behavior Mike drop boom Zinga as it were yes that was very good yeah so unfortunately to find this I went back to go get my own screenshot up to make sure it was real because somebody sent a screenshot and I'm like okay is that real I had
to go through some of Elon Musk's tweets and I read them and but I didn't read the tweet so much as I read the actual replies from the people who follow him now Brian I do believe that Elon has been indoctrinated and radicalized by his own platform oh because the shit that these people are fucking saying to him if that's your world if that's what you're seeing on a day to day basis and just that you think that you
are the king of the world yes it is insane yes people are nuts have you have you read any of these it's one of the reasons I don't do X anymore it is just a fucking shit storm of Elon sucking but I had no idea was that bad I just I was or oh my god yet no wonder he's insane
there's there's literally no wonder that he's insane now well this is why he bought it this is the only reason it's a pure ego stroke yeah yeah anyway moving on yeah moving on by the time you hear this Lord of the Rings the rings of power one of the most confusing titles known to man will have
returned to Amazon it returns Thursday August 29th and there is a link in the show notes to a gizmodo recap everything to remember before rings of power returns I enjoyed the first season I highly recommend reading this because I forgot absolutely everything that happened okay I was waiting for this
season to come out before I watch season one because I got like two episodes into season one yeah and then I was just like yeah because you know everybody did say it was kind of slow so it was but you know it looks beautiful and you know it's yeah I liked it okay so okay I heard this season's
kind of slow too though so that's not that doesn't bode well you know it looks beautiful I do I do watch TV right before I go to bed so maybe it will be maybe help put me to sleep there you go all right I saw a trailer this week for Superman the Christopher Reeves story now if you want a good
cry in the middle of the day just watch this trailer I still think it's too soon I know I know it feels like yesterday I don't know if anyone later than Gen X is going to be affected as much as you know we would no probably not but yeah because you didn't know him you he wasn't your Superman oh my
God yeah no it was it was a rough watch yeah it was really rough I had to turn it off like a like before the end because I'm gonna I want to watch it when it comes out but right now it's only in theaters on September 21st and September 25th but I will definitely watch this when it comes out and
oh my God will I buy a lot of tissues before I start yeah I'll watch this when it comes out on streaming as well hashtag always my Superman hashtag Henry Caval was pretty good too yeah you would decent yeah yeah yeah now here's just a little bit more fun old news Gary Newman is actually
13 days older than Gary Oldman that meme has been bouncing around forever and every time I see it every time I see you it makes me laugh yeah I've never seen it before so I had actually I did the fact checking to make sure it's like yep it really is two of my favorite people
tops and do doubts over fucksake Brian I think you and I were in a rush to get this one in the the news you fucking beat me yeah I know as soon as it popped up on my feet or I'm like gotcha slammed it in here applaud a company there's a company called applaud to start with PLAUD
they're introducing a new AI-powered note pin yes another thing that you stick on your lapel that records everything the company CEO Nathan Sioux and visions using the gathered data from the pin to create digital twins of users in the future capturing personality and preferences over time
okay yeah yeah yeah yeah good luck this one will cost you $169 and it records up to 300 minutes of audio per month to record more than that you can pay $79 annual fee for the pro plan that gets you 1200 minutes per month and additional features like labels that identify different speakers in a
transcription critics argue that AI systems like this may not yet match the accuracy and effectiveness of existing tools or that it's another fucking dumbass idea yeah you know you're in trouble when every single review of your new product basically says but you can already do this with things you
already have in your pocket yeah which I would like to point out here on my watch I have an app called just press record it costs $4.99 and works extraordinarily well even from the watch to record a conversation with anybody that is in the room the the microphones on the Apple watch are really good
so you take just press record and it will do a transcription in the app for you this cost $4.99 and there's no time limit on how much you can do and there you go and if you don't like the transcriptions on it they'll get a free copy of Mac whisper if you have a Mac and you can run it
through any of the large language model transcription services or not services but transcriptions and get a much better one for free so there yeah you have it so yeah just just get those if you want something that is it honestly doesn't make you look like a twat because you've already got an
Apple watch so you know everybody's got those you can blend into the crowd and just press record just works and there's no big bright light saying it's it's working so yeah just it's in the background if you want a spy tool just just make sure that you know your local laws because
recording people without their knowledge in some states like California illegal felony yes yeah make sure your state is a one-party state in two-party states you can get in trouble does it is it consent if you look at it and you can see it and you know it no it's not
no it's not same thing with the Google Glasses that was part of the problem I think that might be because there was a red light on the glasses I don't know I'm not but I you were just a twat if you were yeah nobody would talk to you anyways yeah we
didn't get to that part we didn't get to the litigation phase of that the public humiliation did his job all right AI corner AI corner for this week Brian we've got an article from Stephen Wolfram I called what's really going on in machine learning some minimal models by Stephen Wolfram
now this article discusses the inner workings of machine learning by examining simple models to better understand how neural networks function this is a very long article it it takes you about a half an hour to read it you're telling me Stephen Wolfram wrote a long article Jason yeah seriously
might as well be Neil Stevenson oh my god yeah it is if you want to feel dumb if you want to film dumb then check this article out it is fascinating from what I could understand right I tried to try to understand it I felt like I was smarter when I was done I couldn't tell you anything that
I learned from it but you know I felt superior so because I read this Stephen Wolfram article if you're feeling massacistic you can read what is chat GPT doing and why does it work and a follow on article which will take you around 75 minutes to read but yeah if you really want to
kind of try and understand how these things work what you do learn from these is that it doesn't work the way you think it works and it is not actually intelligent in any way shape or form yeah which is I took a course to try to figure all that out and that's kind of what I came away with as
well yeah yeah and there's a there's a bunch of articles going around this week too that kind of uh it seems to be like a tipping point where people are finally coming out and saying in the media that yeah these things aren't really that smart it is what it is now Andy jassy I love this
one of the most tedious but critical tasks for software development teams is updating foundational software it's not new feature work and it doesn't feel like you're moving the experience forward as a result this work is either dreaded or put off for more exciting work or both amazon queue are
gen ai assistant for software development is trying to bring some light to this heaviness we have a new code transformation capability and here's what we found when we integrated into our internal systems and applied it to our needed Java upgrades here's what he says the average time to upgrade
an application to java 17 plummeted from what's typically 50 developer days to just a few hours okay now remember that we estimate this has saved us the equivalent of 4500 developer years of work yes that number is crazy but really says in under six months we've been able to upgrade more
than 50% of our production Java systems to modernize Java modernize Java versions at a fraction of the usual time and effort and our developers shipped 79% of the auto generated code reviews without any additional changes the benefits go beyond how much effort we've saved developers the upgrades
have enhanced security and reduced infrastructure costs providing an estimated 260 million dollars in annualized efficiency gains okay so he's saying that they have a new tool that will upgrade old shit okay and he says this is a great example of how large scale enterprises can gain significant
efficiencies in foundational software hygiene work by leveraging amazon queue it's been a game changer for us and not only do our amazon teams plan to use this transformation capability but more but our q team plans to add more transformations for developers to leverage okay great
um now the next article I have is do users write more insecure code with AI assistance the answer is absolutely so coming on the heels of this there we have Andy jassy saying that amazon queue their tool writes more secure code and saves you a bunch of time and Stanford University where I'm guessing
most of the engineers that work on amazon queue came out of says that overall we find that having access to the ais and often results in more security vulnerabilities across multiple questions the ais and often does not choose safe libraries uses libraries properly understand the edge cases
of interacting with external entities such as a file system or a database and here's importantly it does not correctly sanitize user input which is the which is the cornerstone of any web facing application is sanitizing user input very important very very important so uh so we have
and east right you go rar rar we're doing really good here and uh we have Stanford saying hold it up there real there cowboy uh not exactly what you think it's going to be so uh I'm sure that a lot of these things are pretty easy to you know to have a transformation from an old version to a new version because it's just a lot of times it's just you know switching functions and parameters and things like that and just you know keeping track of what's doing what uh so I can see how that can be
a boon in some places but you still have to go through every single line of code to make sure the damn thing still works mm-hmm you know is it writing its own unit tests and running those unit tests possibly I don't know I haven't tried I haven't checked out amazon queue I don't plan on
checking out amazon queue because I don't like Java never like Java did you ever write Java it's now no it's horrible it's it's a terrible language terrible terrible terrible it's a terrible language now another uh another report from the University of Pennsylvania reveals that most AI text
detectors aren't as reliable as advertised no shit sure lock yes we've talked about this yeah these problems with copywriting systems and all of that you can you can you can jig the system yeah yeah a couple quick find and replaces and you're off to the races research has found that simple
tricks like inserting unusual symbols can fool these systems some detectors excel in specific content types such as student essays but struggle with others like news articles of course AI detectors can even mistakenly identify human written text is AI generated of course it can because
it's trained on human written text mm-hmm so they're trying to come up with new benchmarks for it but uh all in all yeah no and uh another thing in the news this week is model collapse mm-hmm we've talked about it there a couple different names for it one is model atophagy disorder which is a
mouthful and obviously written by somebody who's never had any marketing experience uh now there's other researcher uh jathan sadowski he dubbed the phenomenon which is better hasberg AI a reference to the europe's famously inbred royal family that guy's got class i like that guy i love that yeah
so there's a bunch of articles we linked in the show notes that talk about uh basically model collapse and how it is coming faster than we thought that is the that is the uh the long in the short of it is we knew it was going to be here because these things use the web to train themselves but people have embraced AI technology so quickly that they're just pushing the shit out hand over fist and it is
pissing in the well and now it's just you know there's gonna be problems we've got the mayi centipede mm-hmm yes we do now i have two final articles that you're gonna have to go click on to check out because they're both visual but this is what AI is as far as i can tell is good for the first one is
marty McFly goes back to the time of jesus to warn him of what's about to happen to him great Scott you have to watch the whole thread because it is fucking hilarious seriously just go check it out it's a reddit thread and it is it is beautiful it i haven't laughed that hard in a long time and the
second is what could be i had to had tip to fogardy on that when he sent that that said that over to me and uh the next one had tip to mark andre he was the first part of millions to send this one over what could be better muppets mad max and ai this is a short furiosa inspired muppets
uh ai movie that is disconcerting and reminds me to never take acid again yes i agree closing shout outs over at patreon we've got gillbert welcome back gillbert thank you over at paypal we've got charlie and siaman and over at the tip jar we've got adam so it's a light week so
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like that uh jimrodin though fellow grippiel geek here it since 88 just had to share that at least some of the public school cyber security education is working i was listening to your show in the car the other day with my 13 year old son in the front seat he saw your cover art on the podcast
player pointed at it and said that's not secure i said what he said http they should be using https uh huh grumpon so he's he's referring to the fact that for some reason last week the uh our podcast host did not pick up the show art that i so lovingly uploaded um i went back and fixed it but originally when the show went out it got the stock grumpiel geeks show art which actually has our url at the bottom and in the old days when i made that like seven or eight years ago was before
https everywhere i used http colon slash last jog.show so yes it used to not matter if you weren't taking money yeah yeah so uh i'll get on that thanks for the heads up yeah we'll fix that whole show art where it came seven years ago any day now yeah i'm i'm gonna get right i'm gonna get right on
and this final one that i just love this ns a releases copies of internal lecture delivered by computing giant rear admiral grace hopper uh it's a it's like a two hour or hour and a half um speech that she did in 1982 called the few uh she was captain grace hopper she's back when she was
a captain grace hopper on future possibilities data hardware software and people it's pretty cool it is pretty cool she was one of the early developers of cobalt and uh one of the first programmers of the harvard mark one computer she's very smart very cool yep uh so go check that out one of the
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