Transforming Fear: Lessons in Empowerment from a Fire Walk Experience with Dave Albin

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Make sure to check out the show notes for access to our workshops and exclusive 12-person mastermind. All right, let's go ahead and jump into today's show. Welcome back to Grow Your Impact, Income and Influence, the number one show helping you reach millions. If you are a fan of Tony Robbins, if you love overcoming challenges, if you like setting yourself up to do hard things and then succeeding and crushing your goals, Today is going to be the show for you. I am joined by Dave Alvin.

Dave has helped Tony Robbins for numerous years. He's been with them since prior to 2001. He's helped more than half a million, half a million people, 500,000 people walk across burning hot coals. He's also a master of personal development and storytelling. telling. He's going to be here today to shake us up and to give us some real life tips and tactics that we can use to overcome challenges that we are facing. Dave, how are you doing today?

Hey, Steve, that's a mouthful, man. Thanks for having me on the show. I'm honored to be here, man.

No worries. It is my pleasure. So how did you come to work for Tony Robbins? And then how did you choose firewalking as kind of your avenue to help people break through? Well, you know, my smart aleck answer is I took that left hand turn at Albuquerque, right? I stole that from Bugs Bunny. How did, you know, how I got to Tony was it started when I decided to stop trying to kill myself with alcohol and drugs.

So on June 8th of 1988, I woke up that morning, grossly addicted to heroin, cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes, chocolate chip cookies. And, you know, I may still have a problem with chocolate chip cookies. I'll admit that. But I got up that morning and I made a phone call to Alcoholics Anonymous and they sent someone to pick me up. And I've been there ever since. I haven't had a drink or a drug since.

So what happened there is that AA and the personal development industry kind of came into my life at the same time. And the reason it did and how it did is I had insomnia. So I was up late at night all the time. Pull him up late one night and three o'clock in the morning, there he is. You know, a young, vibrant Tony Robbins in like 1988 selling a program called Personal Power. It was a 30-day program and they sent it to you in a big box and you did it at home, right?

Came on these little white things called cassette tapes to date it, right? And so, man, I don't know. I plugged him in. I listened to what the man was teaching me. I loved it. I listened to all of them. I did what he told me to do and it worked. Well, I ended up loaning my tape program to a buddy of mine. Well, seven years later, this was in like 88, 1995, my buddy that I loaned the program to called me on the phone. He said, Hey, Albie, Tony Robbins is coming to town.

Did you know that? I'm like, no, I had no idea. And he goes, well, come on, man, let's go. You got me into this. We got to go see this guy. And I said, sure, let's do it. And so he goes, great, let me call you back. So he calls me back like an hour later and he goes, done. We pick up the tickets and we'll call. Here's what they told us to do. Number one. Bring snacks. You're going to spend a lot of time in the room. Number two, hydrate. You've got to stay hydrated throughout this four-day event.

Bring a good attitude and be ready to play full out. They said, okay, how much was the ticket, Dan? He said, $695. This is in 1995, right? So what's that equate to today? 1.2, 1.3 million? I mean, I don't know. Buy Bitcoin, right? And just as he's getting ready to get off the phone, he goes, oh, wait, wait, wait. I forgot to tell you, I need to tell you this one part, man, we're going to be doing a fire walk. Well, my brain went, oh, hell no. Now, you know, what's interesting about that,

Stephen? I don't know what that means. I've never been to a fire walk. I don't know what the word fire walk means, but it didn't sound like anything I was going to be doing because fear had pretty much controlled my life all the way up until that moment or till I got to the actual live event. And I just was serving it, right? I'm going, yeah, Dan, sure.

Fire walk. Yeah. Sounds interesting. All right, man i'll see you then and i hung up and i went hell no no homeboy's not doing that well you get to the event right tony takes the stage and it was like two o'clock in the afternoon next thing i know it's 10 hours later we've been in a room for 10 hours with tony robbins and he's preparing us for the firewalk well i'm still a hard no all the way through no i'm not doing it well

he sets you up to win because one of the first things he does when he gets you to get ready to go outside in his big parking lot for this firewalk. He goes, take your shoes off. And I'm like, oh no, I see where you're going with that. I'm not doing that. Well, I got a problem. I'm in a room with 3,500 people. Guess what they're doing? And my buddy, they're all taking their shoes off. So what am I going to do? Not take my shoes off so everybody knows I'm a coward.

So now I start negotiating with myself, right? I'm like, just calm down. Just take your shoes off. When you get out there, your buddy's five, five ditching. It should be really easy to ditch as 35,000, 3,000 people are walking out in this parking lot. Well, it gets a little worse because when he gets you going out there, he's got everybody chanting and clapping, right? So you got 3,500 people going, yes, yes.

And then when you get out there, he's got African drums. And so I did, I went hidden back and sure enough, Tony trains people because he knows there's people like me that are going to hide in the back. And he trained and he trains them and he came and found me. And this guy kind of looks at me, He goes, Hey man, you okay? I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm fine. He goes, you're going to walk tonight? I'm like, no.

And he goes, well, that's no problem. We don't want you to do anything you don't want to do. And I went, wow. Okay. I like this guy. No, he's setting me up. He's tricking me. Cause then he asked me a question. He goes, wouldn't you at least like to watch? Well, sure. Why not? Let's go watch these people burn their feet off. It should be hilarious. And he goes, well, you can't see anything from way back here. You're going to have to get in line.

I took the bait. He was right. He was telling the truth. So I did. I got in line with the idea. I was just going to get up there close where I could watch. Remember, man, I got 30,000 people standing in front of me. I can't see anything. I can hear it. Man, the drums are going and people are screaming and yelling. They're already firewalking. They're jumping up and down. They're celebrating. I mean, brother, it is intense. It is a dog and pony show. And like anything you've ever experienced.

Well, as I'm waiting in line, they're kind of moving along. Another guy comes up to me, another stranger. Don't know either one of these guys. And he goes, and he whispers in my ear. He goes, he knows when you're ready. When he says, go, you go. I just disappeared into the night. You know, I'm like, what, what, what do you mean? He knows when you're ready, when he says, go, what does that mean?

And so sure enough it's like i'm getting out there i get to a point see so i can see at an angle and they're doing it every race every creed every color and my brain's going we're mammals man why are we doing this we're supposed to run for fire not walk on it and so i'm staring and i'm not really watching in front of me and the next thing i know there i am i'm at the front of the line going how in the hell did i get here and there's a trainer stand there and i'm staring at the coals right?

How you set up a firewalk is you build a big fire in the middle of the day. You let it burn for eight to 10 hours and then it renders. So all those coals fall and then you load them in a wheelbarrow. And then you put a wheelbarrow in between two lanes of sod, of grass, three feet wide, 15 feet long. And then they take a flathead shovel and they sprinkle them on top and then they pat them down. That's what you walk on. Well, that's what I'm staring at.

The wheelbarrow's there. You feel the heat coming off. My heart's beating out of my chest. I'm scared to death. and all of a sudden the trainer goes, eyes up. Well, I'm staring at the, I'm doing exactly what I shouldn't be doing. And now my eyes are up. Well, when you're in the room with Tony, he teaches you to keep your eyes up. Don't stare at what you fear. If you stare at what you fear, it's going to paralyze you. And that's exactly what it was doing.

And so now my eyes are up and he goes, squeeze your fist and say yes. And I went, yes. And he went stronger. I went, yes. Well, he could tell. He could tell I wasn't in a peak state. He could tell I was leaving a lot on the table. And so he screamed at me again, right in my face. Well, now it's fight or flight. And so I just went, yes. And he goes, go, go, go. Boo. I took off. And that was it, man. I walked on coals. I was successful at it. I didn't have a clue how I did it, but I had done it.

I didn't burn myself. And now I'm down in the celebration end, jumping up and down with everybody else. And it was literally one of the most exhilarating moments of my entire life. It was absolutely spectacular. But here's what happened later. It was like the next day. The next day, we're all standing in the foyer, getting ready to go into the

venue. And all these strangers the night before, when you got into that room, getting ready to go into the, you know, the main room for the event on day two, I'd never seen people get along like this. People were laughing and they were hugging, they were crying, they were talking about their fears, they're talking about how paralyzing their life had been, they were talking about the firewalk, they were getting along humanistically, unlike anything I'd ever seen or witnessed in my life.

And so I knew that I had just participated in something that was absolutely extraordinary. And it brings people together. Hence the reason that I've been at this now for all these years. And that was really it.

I went on to work for Tony shortly after that event. I started in 1995. And by the time I got to 2003, because I had a security background that I was helping take care of Tony's celebrities, had a security and a military background. One day, Tony pulled me aside and said, Albie, I'd like you to take over all of my fireworks globally. That was in 2003. And he even paid, I was homeschooling my kids. So there was a conflict there.

And he said, that's not a problem, man. Well, how about we just pay for your family to go on the road with us? So there I was, my six-year-old daughter, my nine-year-old son and their mom is on the road full-time with Tony Robbins starting in 2003. 2005, we set the world record. We went to London, to the Docklands, up in western London at the Excel Center, and we walked 12,300 people. That was in 05. 2014, I'm driving down the road. My phone rings. It's Google.

Google's asking me, hey, you the Dave Albin that does the firewalks for Tony Robbins? Yeah. What can I do for you? He said, well, if you're not under any contractual obligation or non-compete, we'd like to talk to you about hiring you.

I'm like no shit well homeboy's a free agent man what you got and that was it you know I contracted up with Google and I went back and retired from Tony's organization we started Firewalk Productions in 2014 and you know no pun intended or maybe a little we've been going hot and heavy ever since, Nice. So there's, I mean, I wrote down a couple of notes in there. That's an awesome story. And I've, I mean, I've done, I've done the firework walk a couple of times. I've gone to UPW four times now.

So like I can, I can attest and say like it, it definitely, I feel like it, one, it's challenging in that you like, you have to, you have to break through your fear on purpose. Right. We'll get into what that does for you mentally and how that moves people forward in life. But the other thing that I think you pointed to on the other side, you celebrate and it brings everybody together, which is something that is so rare, especially in today's world post-COVID.

You have all these people that do things independently. Everybody's independent. So it's so rare that people do things together and have a bonding experience.

I'd love to talk about that a little bit. But one of your sayings that I love is stop looking for heroes and become one. And I feel like everybody, not everybody, I know you're watching my language, so we won't say everyone. A whole bunch of them. Yeah. We'll say 98% of people are busy looking and pointing at somebody to do something for them or to blame for something or to hold them responsible.

And you're calling people out and you're giving them a way to do it as a small piece so that they can then have the benefits in their life across the board. Let's talk about that a little bit. You talked about when you were getting ready to do it, the coach that was staring at you and calling you out, he was amping you up and he knew that you had a lot left on the table. How do you get people, I know you get people amped up to do the firewalk.

How do you keep them in a peak state after the firewalk? How do you help them recreate that? Well, you know, to get them ready when they're standing there, it's all about the physiology shift. If you get them to move their body, if you get them to breathe, if you oxygenate them, that will, because, you know, fear doesn't exist when gratitude is present, number one. Or number two, you know, most people are in fear because they hold their breath.

Like, think of something that scares you. What's the first thing people do? They go, and they hold their breath. So by getting them to breathe diaphragmically and getting a lot of oxygen and then keeping their eyes up, then I give them, you know, some, I say some things to them to get them to go across the fire. Once they've walked the fire, then that takes over, right? Because now they can save themselves. Okay. I walked on fire. The coals were a thousand degrees and I did it safely.

I didn't burn myself. So what else can I do? What other lies have I told myself? So then now we get into what the story, the storytelling. And, and, and what does that mean? That just means like, why don't people get what they want in life? Well, there's a story they tell themselves and they made it up no matter what. I don't care how good your life is, how bad, whatever's happened. It doesn't matter. We create a story about that. So if you create a story that empowers you, fantastic.

If you don't, then, and you stack it with limiting beliefs and bullshit, then it's going, it's going to have an adverse effect on your life. You know, Viktor Frankl is the one that really brought that to the table, right? in his book, Man's Search for Me. Here's the guy. If you haven't read the book, I highly encourage you. It's not going to be an easy read. I can tell you that. But here's a man that him and his family went to Auschwitz and they took everything from it. They kill your family.

You stand outside, it's cold, you're naked, you haven't eaten in days. And every single second of your life, you don't know if you're the next one to go into the chamber. You can hear the people screaming, the suffering. It's unbelievable. Can you imagine what that's like to stand outside like that, not knowing if you're going to the chamber that day? And that's your life. So again, they take everything from you, all your dignity, hope, everything.

But there's one thing that Viktor Frankl figured out that. They can't take from you. You have to let them, you have to relinquish this, this mindset. And that is, you know, you have to, you have to let them take, you know, your attitude. And so Victor said, Hey, you know what? I'm going to maintain my attitude. And here's why I'm going to create a divine purpose out of this. Cause someone has to get out of here and tell the story.

And so that was it. And that's divine purpose. And that's really, you know, like the book, a purpose-driven life. And that's really it. And then, you know, from a corporate level though, when they come here to hire me, it's like, you know, so they ask, so, you know, what's this going to do for my people? And I, and I'll say, well, look, you can go golfing. You can take your people on a really great corporate team building, whatever you can go here, you can go scavenger hunting.

You can go hire a really keynote speaker, but if you don't get them up off their ass and do something that physically challenges them? Because what doesn't challenge you doesn't change you. And that part they get. Why do you think Tony Robbins has used firewalking for over three decades? Because it works. They get it. Why did Google call me? They knew. You didn't have to sell them. They came and sought me. They knew they wanted to create a paradigm shift experience for the 148 executives

that they hired me to influence. And that's really it. That's really what it comes down to. You don't become a Navy SEAL by sitting in a classroom. I mean, that's part of it, but you become a Navy SEAL when they take you out at three o'clock in the morning and jump you, drop you into the Pacific and it's jet blackout. You can't see anything. And on your way out there, they tell you about all the man-eating sharks that are in the water.

That's the kind of stuff that plays on your mind. You know, one of the things I do at my event, Steve, and I think your audience will get this big time.

So I put a picture of a guy behind me on the screen was a guy by the name of eric weinmeyer and and he's obviously standing in a location that most people are going to recognize so i'm i'm i'm talking talking 20 minutes and then i'll say so here who here who here could tell me who's where my buddy's standing and and somebody inevitably always gets it and they'll say mount everest and i'll say that's correct let me tell you

something else about eric he's he's gotten to the summit of the seven highest mountain on seven continents. He's climbed the seven highest mountains on earth. And he got to the summit of every single one of them. And here's what you don't know about Eric. He's blind. So I don't want to hear your bullshit. The only reason you don't have something in your life is because you made up some crappy story as to why you can't have it. You want to change your life?

Change your story. We'll get back to the show in just a second. Now, we know that you become the sum of the people that you surround yourself with. Are you looking for a great group of people that will take you and your business to the next level? make sure to check out the show notes for access to our exclusive 12-person mastermind and workshops. All right, let's go ahead and jump back into the show. It's that simple.

I absolutely love that because I believe that was the thing that I probably took away from Tony Robbins. I mean, it's the thing that led me to telling stories, part of it here on the podcast, part of it on what I do on stage. I would love to talk, like, let's link the two together. So you have them do the firewalk. I agree. It's a huge paradigm shift. How do you have them then change their story?

Because I think what you just talked about, the blind guy climbing all the mountains, how do you have them take away this small, acute experience of walking on fire and then rebuild their stories? What are some actionable things that the audience can use? All right. So we do a couple of things there. Number one, we also include the board break. It's a martial arts move, right? Go to any martial arts dojo. You're going to do a board break at some point because that's how you graduate

in Belts and all that kind of thing. So we brought that into the seminar. And so what we do there is I get them to write something on front of the board they want to move towards. I get them to write something on back of the board they need to move away from. And then I have them write anybody's name on the board that they're in conflict with. If you're carrying around anger and frustration about another human being in your life, that's creating blockages.

So you've got to deal with that. It's got to go. You're going to give it to the fire tonight. You're going to forgive them and move on. And so you write their name on the board. The other thing I have them do is write anybody's name on the board that they've lost. So if it's a grandparent or a parent or a brother or sister, whatever, then I'm telling them that this is going to be a rite of passage. And I'm inviting you to invite that person that you've lost his energy to the event.

So then we take them outside. We break the board. We walk them in a circle. We do the fire walk. They throw the board into the fire. And then I do what's called the Ho'oponopono hard hug. I put everybody in a circle. And then I have them look across and I'll say, make contact with somebody you don't know. Make eye contact with somebody you don't know. And so once they make eye contact, I'll say, now go to that person and stand two feet in front of them.

Then when you get there, I teach them how to do the heart hug. Normally we hug this way. You hug the opposite way so that your heart is on top of their heart. Close your eyes. I have them take three diaphragmic breaths. And by the time they go into or out of that second deep breath, guess what happens? Their hearts calibrate. start beating at the same time. So I'll do that. Like normally I do it six times. And then that way, everybody's heart in that group is beating at the same time.

And then the other thing that we, that we do at the firewalks is that, and unlike Tony, you know, I, I, I don't know why Tony doesn't do this, but that's, that's neither here nor there. So you know how you, you firewalk and when you get to the end, they're like, stop, wipe your feet and celebrate. Right. Right. You've done it a few times, so you know what I'm talking about. So I did one other thing. I have an essential oil. And as soon as they go, stop, wipe your feet and celebrate, smell this.

And as soon as they smell it in that really supercharged peak state, it anchors it. Yeah, I was going to say, you're giving them an anchor. I like it. Then here. Now, here's that oil. Take that oil, put it in your pocket. You ever want to get back to that kind of moment with that kind of exhilaration and that incredible peak state? Boom, smell it.

Have you programmed? There's something called boom boom sticks that are, they look like a little tube of chapstick, but they're essential oils like turned way up. I actually have i usually have them on my desk it's over in my other room what's it called a boom boom boom boom stick you can buy them on amazon but it's it's it's a it's basically.

Menthol and an essential oil of your choice they have cinnamon they have a peppermint one and they have i use the cinnamon one but it is like it makes your eyes water it's got a little bit of but like, like rubbing, not rubbing, like smelling salt in it. It's like really like it wakes you up, but it's an anchor. I actually use it as an anchor for peak state. Interesting. That's, it is one of the best. So you're actually anchoring them and you're giving them something to take with them. Yeah.

So, you know, how many, how many of us have ever been driving down the road and you're kind of bored and your favorite song comes on one that the next thing you know, you know, you're, you're driving beyond 55 miles an hour. You know, if you're not careful, you're driving 90, right? You know, that song, man. Well, what is that doing? You're anchored to that song. That song changes everything. It changes your physiology, your emotions, your focus. It brings you into the

moment. You're not thinking about the past. You're not thinking about the future, but that's how powerful music is. Right?

Well, same thing. Right? So like people ask me all the time. You know, I get, I wake up in the morning and I'm kind of down. I'm like, go play your favorite music. It'll instantly work. It's not a question. If it's going to work, music is always going to work. It's there because that's what music does. So again, I'm just showing people state management. There's that, right. That's what it is. And if I've learned anything from Tony, I get asked all the time.

What's the greatest thing you ever learned from Tony Robbins, state management, how to control your state. It is one of the biggest things. Like when you.

If i could i i think i would second that that is because if you can control your state then you can control how you feel about things you control your framing of the story that you're telling yourself what are i'm going to ask you what are two or three ways to change your state you just give us one with put on a good song you gave us one with a smelling salt or something to smell essential oil i i'm specifically going to suggest essential oil because essential oils have

a powerful frequency to them. So, so there's two ways, you know, how do you start your day? I mean, that could be very important. You know, one of the things that is a pattern for me is that I believe in sunglazing in the morning. When the sun first comes up in the morning for the first hour, those rays are very healthy for you. It energizes your body and it fills your body with vitamin D. And so you just go stand in that. It doesn't take long. Eight, nine minutes, you're done.

And then I'll go over to the other side of my house and I do what's called grounding. Right? I put my bare feet on the planet, which is typically grass. I sit there for a few minutes and I'll play some music and or some meditation while I do that. Then I come in, I'll do some more meditation and I do my reading. And you want to change your life? Here it is. Read 10 pages in a good book every day. That's 3,650 pages. That's 10 really good books in a year.

And if you don't think that reading 10 powerful books in a year won't change your life, you're wrong. However, it's really easy to do. It's mundane, which makes it really easy not to do. Right? So there's that part. Then, you know, you probably saw this coming. I live up in the Appalachian Mountains. I have mountain spring water coming into my cabin. And so my shower in the morning, I do a normal shower, hot shower. And then I do a three-minute cold shower.

The temperature of the water in my cabin right now is 58 degrees. It's cold. Trust me. And when it hits you in the face, it takes my breath away. I was doing a podcast not too long ago, Steve, and the guy goes, so it gets easier, right? I go, no. No, it does not get easier. It just gets better. And that's the part, right? Because you feel amazing. It's so good for you. You can do the research. You'll see that cold showering, they've been doing it with athletes and Olympians forever.

Why do you think they put them in ice baths, man? The recovery, the inflammation, all of that. Because when you get into ice water or cold water like that, your body goes into fight or flight. So it sends all the blood inside to protect your brain and your internal organs.

So your liver's releasing all kinds of enzymes and yeah you you got it going on man you're burning inflammation like crazy and again it's really really good for you so that's kind of a routine a morning routine if you will yeah i love it the cold plunge is great and to your point it doesn't get easier i think you do i know me my like you link the positive after effects to it so i'm not I'm not in fear of it the first I don't know 10 or 15 times it took took me a little bit to like get

up the gotta do it gotta do it gotta do it and then you just we've got I'm in the condo here we've got a pool so right now it's winter and they don't drain it it's at like 60 ish it's not not quite as cold as what you're at but it's pretty much just coming out of the mountain you know coming out of the ground that's why it's a little core but 60 works I can tell you that all right So I've got one other piece that I pulled out of your story that I think you're going to be able to help us with.

When you walked up to the Kohl's, and I'm sure you see people do this all the time, they're looking down, they're staring at the Kohl's. They're looking at the thing that they shouldn't be, right? One of the things that stops us from having success in life is that we're paying attention to the wrong thing. We're looking at the negative. And people focus on that, and that stops us from moving forward. It keeps us in fear, helps us build really bad stories.

What are some tips or some tactics that you could have for us to focus on the right thing? Because you, I mean, I know you, you kind of know the personal development thing. If I say, don't think about a pink elephant, we have to think about the pink elephant. So driving a pink Volkswagen. Yeah. Right. Right. A vision board is very powerful. I have a whiteboard here in my kitchen, well, it's more in my kitchen area, and I have stuff written on it all the time, and I read that.

I think it's just really about building a strong mindset. Here's what I believe. I believe the two most important times in someone's life is the moment they're born and the moment they figure out why. And here's what one of my mentors said to me. He said, David, understand something. Every human on this planet has two lives. And the second one starts when you realize you have only one. If you want to live an extraordinary life, you've got to find a way to live from the inside out.

Because if you're chasing shit, right? Oh, new car, new boat. Oh, house, this, ah, new, you know, girlfriend, boyfriend. No, it doesn't work that way. Because if you help enough people get what they want in life, you'll always get what you want. Just the way it is. And so I think, you know, becoming the benevolent, philanthropic kind of way about you, because I deal with a lot of entrepreneurs. I do a lot of work with the entrepreneurs organization, EO, and they've got 218 chapters global.

And so these are very, very, very successful CEOs and they chase money. And I'm like, what do you really think you're going to get to the end and you're going to go, damn it. You know, I wish I'd have spent more time making money and less time with my family. No, it's not going to happen. So it's that balance. And, and so you can, you can influence yourself in a whole lot of different ways that will keep you there.

You don't start off with a sun glazing. The other thing that helps too, by the way, and I left it out and that's a deep diaphragmic breathing. That's Gary, what's Gary's, I think it's Gary's last name in a minute. He's the guy that teaches diaphragmic breathing. You do three sets, 10 breaths. And so you breathe really hard. Oh, I'm 30 breaths. I'm sorry. So it's like, if you do that 30 times, and then when you get to the end, you take a nice deep breath and then hold it.

And then you exhale. You do that three times. Your oxygenating your body at a level you can't even imagine. it. I've heard people say that if you do that, when you do that on a daily and regular basis, you'll add 10 years and the quality and the longevity of your life. Well, it's interesting. So you've probably heard of hyperbaric chambers, right? Hyperbaric chambers are forcing the oxygen into you and holding it. They have done some studies, like hyperbaric chamber is expensive.

If you want to go do it every day, it's going to cost you a couple grand over a year, but the breathing exercises, whether it's Wim Hof or whether it's like whatever you're following. That's Wim Hof. That's basically what he's doing. Gary Brecca. There it is. Yeah. Gary, Gary even mentions Wim Hof in his, in his teaching. Yeah. As long as you stick to it and we're talking about five minutes, it's not that long. And the benefits I'm, I have to be honest though. I am not great at it.

I usually do them once or twice a week because I end up, I get busy. It was, It's in my morning routine, but it's usually the thing that gets cut if I'm running behind. But it is, you feel great afterwards and you mix that with hot, cold, cold plunge. You're going to feel really, really good. Here you go. You got sun glazing. So you're putting vitamin D and enriching your body with the sun. Number two, you're oxygenating your cells. Number two, you're grounding.

So if your body is balanced and then you're meditating and then you're cold showering. And you know, what's cool about that? It's all free. You don't got to go anywhere. You don't got to pay anybody to do that. It's right there. It's free. Of course. Well, it kind of goes to that saying that you had earlier. If it's easy to do, it's also easy not to do.

But Dave just gave you guys a wealth of information. He also gave you some very actionable steps, things that I can definitely attest will make things better for you. Dave, we're coming down to the end of the show. So if I know this was more of a legacy podcast for you, you wanted to get the message out.

Your, your impact to the world is what is important to you. If you had a billboard somewhere, or if you could leave people with just one thing that they remembered for the rest of their life, what would it be? I think I'd have to, I'd have to say, stop looking for heroes and be one. I mean, that's just, you know, that's really the essence.

Because once you, once you get into that part and you really look at yourself as the human that's out there making the difference, it's, it's a very, very powerful place. It's a very powerful mindset and it's very benevolent and it's very philanthropic. philanthropic. And it's literally, in my opinion, the best feeling that a human can have during their lifetime. Awesome. Well, Dave, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on.

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