Discover How a Simple Shift in Mindset Can Boost Your Wealth with Leisa Peterson

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Make sure you check out the show notes for exclusive masterminds, live events, and workshops. All right, let's go ahead and jump into the show. Welcome back to Grow Your Impact, Income, and Influence, the number one show helping you reach millions. Today, we have an author on the show that helps you remove money blocks that you have. If you are trying to reach millions in your bank account, this is definitely

the show that you're going to want to listen to. She has authored the book, The Mindful Millionaire. She also has a YouTube channel where she helps people understand different nuances around money. She just had a viral video go off. She's got a lot of traction there. Both of those will be linked down in the show notes. Lisa, how are you doing today? I'm doing great, Steve. So happy to be here. Thanks so much for taking the time

to meet with us. I know you have a super busy schedule. You just got back from Hawaii. You've had so many things going on lately. I'm happy to have you here.

So where did this all start? Where did your money story start? Great question. I would have to say it started because we didn't have any money when I was growing up. And at least it felt that way. And money was a source of great stress. And it set me up. So I remember around eight, nine, I thought if I had money, all my problems will go away, which is just crazy to be that young making those sorts of decisions. But I did. And it really changed the way that I think my life proceeded.

I started a business not that long after that. I got my first credit card when I was 11. I was learning about checking and savings and investing by 12 and, It would take me several years to figure out my path because I also had this creative streak. I wanted to design clothes. I'm super creative. And I tried in college to follow the passion route of designing clothes. I became a designer for a very famous designer out of college.

And one year in, I was like, oh my gosh, if I continue this, I'm going to be broke like my parents. And I can't stand that thought. And so I went to school, got an MBA. Began a career in financial services, eventually starting to help people with their money personally, and realized early on that I wasn't the only one that was kind of messed up when it came to money.

I started seeing people's beliefs play out in the way that they would treat me as their insurance adjuster and later as their mortgage banker and later as their financial advisor. And I kept thinking, what happened to all of us to make us so twisted, for the most part, around money? And we can get into that. But I wanted to understand it, and I knew that I had a lot of questions that I wanted answered.

And so eventually, almost 11 years ago, I decided that I was going to leave all of what I was doing in my very lucrative financial career to figure out how to help people with this relationship with money. And that started the company Wealth Clinic. That is awesome. For those of you listening, I just want to reiterate, Lisa is no longer a financial planner.

Instead, she helps people overcome their negative beliefs around money because you saw so much of that when you were a planner right the video that you had go take off on youtube was all about, the financial planning world and how you can become wealthy without that and the things to look for in that maybe we can unpack some of that as we talk today but that's that got us to where we are do you want to talk about the new book that you're writing.

Sure. Yeah. Well, my first book, The Mindful Millionaire, came out in 2020. It sold very well, but it's more complicated because I have such an experience of like, hey, it's super important to get your money house in order, but I also want you to focus on your mindset around money. And I felt like I needed to teach both of them in that book.

But now, fast forward, you know, four years later, my understanding of people and their behavior and their attention span, which is getting shorter and shorter, is this realization that I know everyone has something about money that they would like to improve.

And the big message in my first book and now in my second book is that we have these tendencies to have a scarcity way of thinking come up, especially when we're stressed, especially when we're anxious, especially when we're worried about whether or not we're going to be able to take care of our financial obligations or maybe just we're worried that we're not going to achieve the objectives that we set for ourselves early in life.

And so the mindset is what started to come in a different way in this new book. And so the new book is called for the working title, The Abundance Experiment. But what I wanted to do was write a parable. So a fictional story that would take the reader through someone else's life and experiences that's inspired by my own life and the life of my clients. So this woman's 34 years old.

She goes on this trip to Paris and realizes because of her traveling companion that she's been living this very scarce way of being her whole life. And she gets super curious, like, wait a minute. Could I live with this abundant mindset all the time? What would happen if I went home and tried to change the way I thought about life? And so she goes home and it doesn't go so well.

And she goes on a journey to answer these questions and figure out how can she reconfigure her relationships, her work, the way that she thinks about herself. How do all of those parts of the equation fit into changing her mind tiny habit by tiny habit into an abundant person. And so it's a short story. It's less than 50,000 words. It has a journaling component to it.

So when the reader is going through Mirabelle's experiences, you're also doing this journaling where these questions will activate you to say, well, okay, what about you in this situation? What would happen if you were to ask yourself this question? And I've been testing it with over 100 people around the world and watching the journaling. I have almost 1,000 pages of journaling from people just pouring their heart out.

And in the course of the journaling, you change right alongside of Mirabelle. And it's super cool. I love it. That is going to be coming out soon. If you guys would like that, there'll be some kind of link in the show notes. It's not out yet, but it is coming soon. We are giving away a free chapter of her book, The Mindful Millionaire. You can click on that. That will get you started.

And then you will be on her email list. And Lisa will message you when the parable story is out with the journal component. I love that because I think that, one, I'm a big fan of journaling. You actually gave me, several years ago, you gave me a Google document. I think it was called Your Money Story. I can't remember, but it was probably six pages. And then by the time I was done with it, it was over 20. It was six pages of questions.

Really, really powerful stuff. So we're going to jump into people's money story.

If you're listening to this and you're like, well, I try to live more abundant. I try to live in gratitude, but I'm not making any more money. I think that's what I hear from a lot of people. We're going to dive into some practical things that you can do. So let's start with where do most people have their blocks? What are some very common blocks that people have across the world, but they don't see? Maybe it's like right in their blind spot. It's always interesting because it's like,

the opposite. So some people, one example would be, and this was one that I had and it really came out, my blog came out about this when I was starting my company, but I had a fear of being greedy and selfish. And that came from my childhood home because like I said, I was really good with money early on. My parents and my brother weren't. So they would come to me trying to get money from me on a regular basis. So I would hide my money because I knew that they'd come and I'd be like,

nope, don't have it. Can't give it. You can't have my money because they wouldn't pay it back. So growing up, they would tell me I was selfish and greedy and I would hear that over and over again. So fast forward, even though I'm now a multimillionaire because my husband and I have been investing in developing real estate for 30 plus years, but I started my company and I realized that it was hard for me to ask people to pay for my services.

And I had to dig really deep into figuring out, why do I have such a block around this? And one thing that came out early on was this block that I'm a selfish, greedy person. It's very, very hard to build a thriving business with a block like that. Now, on the opposite, what would you say would be the opposite of, I think I'm greedy? What would be an example of being the opposite of that? I mean, the opposite of I'm greedy is that I'm way too giving, right?

I like to give everything away. I like everybody to be happy. I'll give you the shirt off my back. You hear that a lot. And what's interesting, thinking about this, I hear people spout both sides of that, right? They'll say, I'll give you the shirt off my back. And then at the same time, they're scared to ask for money. They're scared to, oh, what would somebody think of me if I needed money or if I wanted money for my services?

I think a lot of people care way too much about what people think of them. Maybe that's a different thought process, but did I get that right? Yeah, I mean, it's a great sort of way to think about that. So when we have that greedy, oftentimes we will do the other one, not realizing that we actually have a fear of being greedy. And the other one is we just give things away constantly. We're very comfortable giving things away and not asking people to pay us what they need to pay.

But you can also be in a situation where you just never, it's like fail to launch. Like never take the action because you don't trust yourself in all the things that you do.

So there are so many different examples of blocks. I think the biggest question for everyone to ask themselves in this moment would be, where do you get tripped up when it comes to money? And when you find something, you might even play that sort of, I think Dean Graciosi, I don't know. Yeah. Thank you. He has like the why, you know, seven stages of why, like, okay, well, why do you feel that way?

And then asking that like seven different times as you give yourself an answer till you get to like the real core of what's going on i had to actually do that exercise to get to well i am afraid of people thinking i'm greedy you know but that's just one i mean can you think of another one that you just come to mind like in people that you've talked to i think a lot of people one thing that i want to point out you're getting very specific and i think a lot of people would just say

i don't make enough money or I don't have enough money or nobody gives me enough money or there's always an expense that comes up. I get some money and then something comes up. And one of the things that challenged me a lot was I have to take responsibility for all of that. It's not an expense comes up. It's I create an expense. It's not I don't get paid enough. It's that I don't ask for enough money for my services.

Or when I worked in corporate, I'm not asking for a raise. I'm not doing the things to get a raise. Instead, I'm expecting something. And I think that is a it's very it's a very quiet shift, but it's huge in the implications of it. What you just said, like, I think a lot of people would just say, oh, I don't make enough money or I'm not good with money. Right. We've seen people do that. I'm not good with money. It stresses me out. I don't want to deal with it.

I just want more of it. Well, it doesn't really work like that. If you don't take responsibility for it, then you're going to have a really hard time keeping it. At least that's my thought. Yeah. You're bringing up a good point because there's always going to be these suggestions. And this is the reason that the self-help books don't actually help many of us. Is there's all this advice. like you should do it this way.

You should do it that way. You should do it this way. And it just keeps coming and coming and coming. And yet most people don't make those changes in their lives. And that was what I was trying to understand is why could all this information be out there? Could there be thousands of books about how to get rich and how to copy the same format that other people have done before you? I mean, and those books are good and they're helpful, But yet you keep doing the same thing over and over again.

That, my friend, is where we need to dive deeper. Because if we don't understand the why we're not making those changes, we're probably not going to make them. And I needed to not just figure this whole thing out, that there was something going on that people didn't understand about themselves. I actually needed to figure out a process to help people move through those changes. Because just because you figure out you're greedy or you're afraid of being greedy, doesn't mean it goes away.

And it probably goes beyond this conversation. But one of the things that I'm specialized in is learning techniques to help people have a conversation or do, you know, you could call it breakthrough work to understand that they're trapped in a paradigm that is of their own construction.

And yes, they do need to take responsibility for that paradigm, but they're probably, just my two cents, they're probably not going to get through that paradigm all by themselves without somebody or some big thing happening in their lives that causes them to be like, okay, wait a minute, I can't do this anymore. I mean, one of the things that came up when you gave me the money mindset story was like all the stuff from your past that is buried.

But I think a lot of people would say, I know that I'm scared to sell. I'm scared to sell. I know that I have some problems with money, but they don't know how to fix it. And what I love, you do have to work through it, right? Reprogramming your mental mindset isn't something that just hits like a switch. Usually it is something that you have to work through. You have a lot of memories. You have a lot of attachments.

I mean, think about if you're 35, 45 years old, how many times have you told that story to yourself? You have to go back and slowly rewire all that stuff. Now, that doesn't mean that it takes years, but it might take a couple months. It might take a couple journal prompts. It might take some doing because a lot of times our story started when we were 8, 9, 10, 12, 15 years old.

I know the parable and the journal together work really well because you're telling the story and then you're asking them to journey their version of it, journal their version of it. What are two or three of the most powerful journal prompts that help people understand what they need to change and help them work through it? That's a good point, and we will get right back to today's show.

If you are looking for clarity in the sea of overwhelm that is out there when it comes to business, make sure to check out the show notes for our workshops, our webinars, and our exclusive 12-person mastermind. All right, let's go ahead and jump back into it. We've kind of alluded to this first one, like where are you seeing scarcity show up in your life? Like where do you always look at something going on as I don't have enough?

Enough i am not good enough i don't have the resources i need there's not enough time like you gotta go mining for those sorts of areas to uncover and and even as i say that it'd be helpful if we do this back and forth but like can you think of one that comes to you that that would be a normal thing that people have because then i can kind of show you what will you do with it Sure.

I mean, I think where scarcity shows up, they say, you know, I want to go on vacation, but I don't have money for vacation. Or I want X thing, right? I always feel like there's something that I want that I don't have. So I feel lack all the time, right? I don't think a lot of people realize that, but they look at Amazon, they see all the ads, they see all the crap everywhere, right? And they're like, oh, I want that thing, but I don't have the money for that or I really shouldn't spend it.

Or they spend their money buying trinkets, right? All the stuff on Amazon shows up at their doorstep, but then they don't have the money to go on vacation or they don't have the money for a new car or something that they really want to do, right? It might be a want or a need. Yeah. So this is inspired by Byron Katie. the next question would be, is that true? Is that true that you don't have enough money for vacation?

And I'll tell you what's fascinating about this question, because I've asked it so many times, is people will often say, I know it's not true. And then I will have to say, yeah, but you said it. So there's some truth inside of this, or you wouldn't have said that. So go there, go to the part where it really, really is true. Because if you ignore this, then you're probably not going to get to it. Do you see that? Yeah, absolutely. I think, how do people respond to that?

Because I think a lot of people, maybe because this is one of the reasons that you have to pay for a coach. If you pay, you will pay attention. If I say that to somebody, I've said similar things to people in my family. And they say, oh, well, is it true? Is it true? Well, I mean, I could redo my budget, but then that means like I wouldn't have money for groceries or I wouldn't be able to do the thing.

So, yeah, it's basically true. But they don't want to have the honest conversation where when you pay somebody, when you go to a therapist or you hire a coach to coach you in the gym, you're going to do exactly what they say. So I think you probably get a little bit of a different response when people say, well, is it true?

You're nodding. I mean, I kind of drag it out of them, you know, because I know what's happening here and I know that they're going to, they want to go to that response that just gets them off the hook. And I'm like, if you're talking to me, it means that you actually want something different. So do me a favor. The next question would be, tell me how you show up in that experience. Like, tell me what your reaction is to the world when you're believing the truth

of that thing. talk to me about that. And that causes people to start going into their own story, their own life, and they're like, okay, well, for example, my boss. When my boss does this thing, then I do this thing. They'll go into the story and that's exactly what I want them to do. The challenge is, and this is where I get so excited because just like you said, I know that if somebody will go into this conversation is, okay, well, how do you react?

How do you treat other people when you're inside of this experience that you're talking about? How do you treat yourself inside of this experience? When they start to answer these questions, I'm looking for where are they outside of alignment with the truth of who they are. I'm looking for this, what I call like a golden thread because that golden thread is what basically holds the whole entire paradigm together. And it's extremely difficult to find it all by yourself.

You're just too close to it. That was going to be my next question. Why is it so hard to find that golden thread? Because I think Like everybody searches for it, right? Like so many people say, if I just had more money, if I could make a little bit more to do X, Y, Z, if I could just buy the new car, if I could just go on vacation, if I could just buy that house, if I had more money, I would attract a better partner, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. People are searching all the time for it.

Why is it so hard for them to see it for themselves? I'll give you a funny answer and then kind of the truth of underneath it. The funny answer is righteousness. Everyone feels like they are right and everybody else is wrong. Another way of saying that is it's our ego. Our ego has constructed itself to keep us safe and to take care of all the things that we need to, we think, function well in the life that we're in. And in this golden thread, our ego actually has a problem because it's wrong.

And nobody is going to call out their wrongness. I mean, now I can do this often because I've done it with hundreds, if not thousands of people. I can call my own stuff, but like only because I've heard so many stories. And then when I start doing those stories, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm doing what my clients do. I know that I'm, I'm onto something now, but most people don't do this all day long with people. So they will craft it.

And, and keep in mind in this conversation, we're sparring with each other because your righteousness is, if I activate your ego, you will shut down and the conversation is over. So my gift is to keep asking questions in different ways that disarm the ego to the point where at some point you're like, oh, shit. Because I hope it's okay if I said that, but that's actually what people are like. They have that moment. I get it. I get it. I can see beyond this righteousness. I can see beyond my ego.

Holy moly, there's a whole world of possibilities outside of this paradigm. And they see it. And it's the most beautiful moment to me because it took me years and years and years of learning how to work around that ego righteousness? Well, I mean, there's some two things come to mind for me. So the first thing is we question all the beliefs except the beliefs that we actually believe to be true. Right.

And I think that that's the moment when you when you're like, oh, my goodness, what I have believed for so long. And money is like people start dealing with money when they're three, four or five years old. Like our beliefs are very deeply rooted. And that moment when they actually see like, oh my goodness, I haven't been believing what is real. It takes a lot to get there. And the second thing is our ego is built to defend us. It defends our beliefs.

That's part of the ego's job, right? So in psychology, the ego is having the conversation and to a normal person, they're not going to want to admit that they have any challenges around money or that they have a problem story. Part of paying for a coach, when you pay somebody to do something, they help you and you let them help you. And your ego says, I've hired this person. They're here to help.

But then also, you have to get around that defense mechanism, just like you said, and ask honest questions that people answer. You have a lot of thoughts right now, I can tell. It's just all the different people I've worked with. And I just finished up a retreat in Hawaii, and there was one person there who had never done this work before. And, you know, I don't want to say I ambushed him, but I was like, would I ask you some questions?

You know, and he didn't know where this was going. And at the end, it was just the most beautiful moment because, I mean, don't you think we all want to be living on the other side of these beliefs?

We all want what's on the other side. We just struggle to get there on our own. And back to the book, the reason the new book, I think, is so powerful is what I've witnessed in these journaling questions. And maybe because I've done this for so long, I was able to engineer the story enough to activate the conversation for someone. And then I bring in the journal questions, and they don't know what's going to come. They're just like, okay, I'm going to answer this really simple question.

And then, you know, a couple minutes later, they're having this like sobbing, you know, to the deep core of their being because it's activated this understanding of the paradigm that they've been living in. And they literally walk out of it just through a few questions at the right time with a story that's that's brought them into an experience. I think that's wonderful. I think we are selling the book again. The links are down in the show notes. make sure you click on those.

So I have one more kind of question. Once they have that moment where they realize their belief is wrong, you can realize something, right? Because we live in the age of knowledge. This is the same reason that a normal book, yes, you can read it. You can know the things to do. How do you help people rewire and build a new habit and build a new money story moving forward? Because that's the thing, right? Like we can know we need to go to the gym.

The gym is the easiest analogy for me to use in any kind of personal development growth because we know we need to go to the gym. You can even pay for a trainer, and you might show up for a while, but you have to build that new habit. It's going to take six to eight months before you are used to doing that. How do you help people change their money story? Because there's so much emotion around it, it controls pretty much everything we do, right?

Because if you don't have money, you can't live the way that you want. And a lot of people have a lot of fear and heartache around that. How do you help people rewire? When somebody's on the other side of what we're talking about with these breakthroughs, there is a deep set understanding that I need to rebuild based on this new way of thinking.

So it makes it easier to begin making the changes. But it's true, you're still going to have to question the habits around this particular topic in your life. So let's go back to, you know, I realized that I had a fear of being greedy. Now, my most important job is to go back to my business and start making offers and sitting inside of that discomfort that I used to have and realizing that I don't have that same belief anymore about myself.

So when I make an offer, I get to give new meaning to what this is. So if somebody says no, it's not because they think that I'm charging too much. It's no, because they're not the right person for this offer, for example, or, you know, the timing isn't right. This doesn't have anything to do with me. It could be the offer. It could be the time. It could be the person. Like, we are able to be more objective about the situation rather than going

back into this like, oh my gosh, did I offend them? Do they think I'm greedy? You know, like, you're rewiring it. But the only way I think get it to stick and to really know that it's working is to confront those situations that we were struggling with and realize that it's a practice, that you're going to have to do it over and over again, that you're going to have to be very uncomfortable at first, but then develop something that isn't uncomfortable.

And that's your job. And a coach can help you do that, or at least show you the areas that you need to focus on now that you're on the other side of the belief.

I think that's i mean holding somebody accountable to instilling the new belief and acting differently and again going back to the gym if you do if you do an exercise that you can do very easily right you're lifting too light of a weight you need to lift something you need to work on something that is uncomfortable that's a sign that you're actually doing the work and having somebody there to help you with that what are some of the success stories that you've seen of people coming out of this,

we'll call it the pre-launch book? The people that have read it and kind of worked through, what are some of the stories that have come out of it? I think that a lot of the success stories so far have been realizing how often the readers have not held themselves in warm regard as it pertains to money. Like, there's a big realization that I've been giving myself a really hard time because money hasn't worked out maybe in the way that I want.

And that's translating into all these different areas of my life, my relationship, my business, my pocketbook, you know, whatever. Yeah. And the turnarounds have been people realize that this experience that they're having with money is a non-negotiable. And back to what you said earlier, taking responsibility is the challenge for people who don't have a lot of money on average. They struggle with the accountability and the responsibility of what that means to build wealth.

So I'm seeing people go out and make different choices. If they were on the cusp of starting a business, they've started the business. They're doing the steps just by reading the book. Another one has been going back because there's a relationship dynamic inside the book. And so a lot of people are realizing that they're letting their partner have a lot more control than they should. And so they're setting boundaries and going back to their partner to say, this is unacceptable.

You know, I want to live an abundant life. You demand for us to live a scarce life. That doesn't work for me anymore. We're going to have to figure this out together. You know, like taking charge of the relationship, trying to think of some other things. It's only been a few months. What I found with the work that I do is it goes so deep, it continues to show itself out for months and years to come.

And I get these emails out of the blue where people are like, I just want you to know my whole life is different because of this workshop, free workshop I attended of yours, you know, like, and here's what happened.

And so a lot of them have to do with people putting themselves first, realizing that their relationship with money is very important, that nobody else is going to care about their money like they are, and that they need to take responsibility for the changes that they want. That's that is it in a nutshell. I want to give you a chance to shine a flashlight on bad advice, because I think you've been active in this for such a long time.

Where do you see people go wrong with any kind of financial advice, financial choices, things that maybe they're trying to get better, but they they're just following the wrong person or they've heard some advice from somebody else on YouTube or Instagram. There's so many influencers out there talking so much trash about everything. What would you shine a flashlight on as don't do this? Two things come to mind. The first is I come from a very spiritual background. I live in Sedona, Arizona.

I have never followed the manifesting bandwagon because I think that it's so manipulated by this idea that you're just going to think about things and then they're going to happen or it's just a mindset shift and then all the magic is going to happen. It's not that it can't. It's that most people who have money did not manifest their way to wealth. And yes, you can have windfalls come in. Those are awesome. But people don't build wealth from windfalls happening here and there.

So all of that, I really don't pay that much attention to. The other thing, and this kind of comes out of watching my daughter, who's had a great deal of success in social media, and also paying attention from time to time to people talking about money and wealth-building strategies where they're 20 or 25 or 30 years old, their whole entire business has all been based on popularity of social media. And so they're talking about how to build wealth in this sort of influencer world.

And to me, that's super dangerous because we're living in a certain period of time where some of those strategies might work, but a lot of it is based on not proven long-term strategies that are going to stick with you from one decade to the next through a recession, through TikTok being shut down, through all these different things. So you've got to be really careful. I think the best people to follow when it comes to money are people who have actually built multi-million dollar wealth.

Listen to those stories. And I can count myself inside of that. I crack up because I'm like, when I hear some of this stuff, I'm just like, where did you get this? I'm pretty sure that you have not built wealth for yourself. And maybe you're making a lot of money right now. But that's very different than... Keeping it and knowing what to do with it and how to keep it over decade after decade.

So how's that? I think that is great. I mean, the thing that I would say, I hear a lot of people say they wish it was easy. And I would say anything worth doing is not going to be easy. It doesn't mean that it's not going to be rewarding. That doesn't mean that you can't enjoy it. It's not going to be easy though. Like I think about this all the time. I laugh. I go out I like to be outside. I know you guys like to hike.

I'll go for a hike that's eight or nine hours and people are like, oh, that sounds exhausting. Yeah, I get back. I'm tired, but I had a good time doing it. The same thing is true. If money was easy, I think this is where some of the negative, people have all this negative energy around it. They don't want to do the work. They don't want to manage it. They don't want to do a budget. They don't want to pay attention. I hate spreadsheets. Spreadsheets are one of my least favorite things in the

world. You don't need to be good at spreadsheets to be good at managing your money. You don't need to know where all the decimals go. You don't, you have to pay attention to it. You have to think about and be mindful of what you're doing. It's the same way somebody that is in good shape is mindful of what they eat and they make sure that they work out right. Like that doesn't mean you don't have to go to the gym 10 hours a day to do that, but you have to pay attention to it, right?

It doesn't mean you can't have a hot fun Sunday once in a while. You just can't eat one every day. You have to be mindful of it. hence your name the mindful millionaire.

Lisa it's been awesome having you on today the links are down below if you want the first chapter of the mindful millionaire it is free in the link down below if you want to follow Lisa on YouTube it is in the link down below and her new book coming out sometime probably next six to eight months yes something like that still still being perfected but you guys got a sneak peek of it here Lisa anything to say to people before we jump off of here,

Just the fact that if you want more money, pay attention to money. The data says that the more we pay attention to it and the more we care about it and the more we are a good custodian of money, the more likely it is that we're going to build wealth for ourselves. So it is true. If you don't look at your statements, you don't pay attention to what's going on, you don't see how much money is going in and out and all that good stuff, it's not going to be easy to build wealth. So pay attention.

So I want you guys to listen to your inner voice. If you just got triggered a little bit and you were like, but I don't like it. I don't want to do that. I don't want to be greedy. I don't want to be a love of money, right? If you just caught yourself saying one of those things, you might need to work on your inner mindset around money. And the tools are in the show notes down below. Lisa, thank you so much. And to everybody else out there, take action, make money, change lives, and live free.

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