Takeaways & Reflections | Struggle to Strength

up at some point. And it takes less than 90 seconds, it has 10 questions and at the end you'll discover your energy type, and what to do with it, and how to nurture your energy type, what drains it, all of that stuff. I think it's a very informative quiz, and the results are very informative. And I think it would be beneficial and helpful especially for Grievers who often feel their energy being

drained. And so I just wanted to share about that in case you have not seen that on my website at all or haven't come across it on social media. Okay, so today I'm going to be talking about Episode 61 with Rachel Engstrom, cancer wife, widow and never our mother to be and Episode 62 with Eric hodgdon, opening the door to a parent's worst nightmare. I'd like to start with Rachel's

episode. And when I'm hearing the stories of Grievers who come on my podcast, I try to put myself in their shoes and through their story, feel what that might have been like to go through that experience. And what struck me about Rachel's story is the time that from diagnosis until her husband passed away and still holding on to hope that entire time that he would go into remission, and he

would be healthy again. But we never really know, do we, when our time is up, or when we'll receive a diagnosis that could drag on for years and years. I know people who are on dialysis who have been on dialysis for many years for their kidneys. And it takes a toll on people's mindset. This is where the human spirit is remarkable in adapting to our circumstances. Whether you're a child who's being abused, or an adult who's going through a terminal illness, the human spirit learns to adapt.

And I think we find our resourcefulness in times of struggle and challenge. And that's just what Rachel and her husband did. They found their resourcefulness and had support come in to help them. Her parents had lived with them for quite some time during that period. And I just imagine that had they had kids at that time, that would have been even more helpful. And I think we get so scared to ask for help and support. In those times, we think we can do it all, or we

should be doing it all. I think especially as mothers and nurtures, we think we should be doing it all. And I personally had many challenging times asking for help and support of others. And I'm only learning now in my later years that support is really where it's at. Whether it's in grief, in our grief or in our businesses, just bringing on support in and help which I did this year which has

been incredible. So I think that is probably one of the lessons that I've learned in my grief recovery and talking with other gravers and hearing their stories, is that it's in the support that you find your own strength in a lot of ways because when you are able to take a break, when you are able to just step back for a moment that can help to recharge your own battery and tackle the next day.

So I think that's a huge takeaway in Rachel's episode, and in many episodes, but I just wanted to highlight that it's important to ask for support, and whatever that looks like for you. I love this one line to where a friend of hers had told her you can choose to be bitter or better. And that was kind of a turning point for her. She didn't want to be bitter anymore, she wanted to be

better. And after her husband's passing, started to pick up the pieces, and really wanted to find some meaning in her experience and ended up writing the book: wife, widow now what how I navigated the cancer world and how you can too. And I've talked to many Grievers who, through their stories, through their experiences, you want to find meaning for what you've gone through, you want to make something of it. And that's been

really a common thread. And also, among all of the guests that I've had, whether that's helping others, or in a quiet way, it doesn't have to be writing a book or it doesn't have to be becoming a grief recovery specialist. It can just be a more compassionate friend, or spouse or what have you. Because I do believe that the more challenging experiences of our lives have the ability to make us more compassionate

people towards others. And after a year in of this podcast and listening to people's stories, the other tip I would give to as the quickest turnaround to feeling better is to helping others. And that was really a turning point for me personally as well. And that's been Rachel's work as well. She's really been an advocate for acute lymphoblastic leukemia and, and really just cancer in general she's really tried to raise awareness and money as

well. So there are many people doing amazing things in this world because of the challenges they've experienced. And Rachel is one of them. There is another aspect of Rachel story I want to share in that what if someone in your with whom you are in a relationship with is diagnosed with a terminal illness, and you are, let's say the significant other but it's been a less than loving relationship. You're probably going to experience a lot of conflicting feelings

about that. There's a part of you that feels like you should help that person, you should be there for them till death do you part, you would want the same for yourself, you would want that person to help you if it were you or support you if it was you that was diagnosed with a terminal illness. But truly, if it's a less than loving relationship, I can see where during Rachel's episode she had mentioned that one of the nurses had told her that 70% of marriages or couples separate

during cancer. And that struck me but in all honesty, it doesn't surprise me because I think there are a lot of less than loving relationships out there. I think there are many people who get into relationship who haven't healed their own wounds. And so you have two people that come together with their wounds, not healed emotional wounds. The other person can be someone who's either going to help you evolve and grow and challenge you to do that and maybe in hopefully you

do that together. Or you can be like the child that picks the scab and you can do that for each other where it's just kind of a toxic thing. It's you don't know how to be with someone else. As long as you have this wounded inner child in you. And I think we're just all walking wounded inner children, as adults, until we recognize that our past and the behaviors that we resort to as adults, and the problems we see in our lives, that are

usually repetitive. We find ourselves in the same bad relationships or you find yourself with the same cycle of money issues time after time, or you find yourself abusing different substances, different stage of life. These are the things that are still there, when you get into relationship with someone, marry someone, unless you can recognize and have that awareness of what your issues are, and you work through them either together as a

couple, to grow through it. Or you work on that beforehand, which I highly recommend. I would recommend to anybody who is thinking about getting married, to go through grief recovery. You know, they have these pre-marriage classes and things. But I think that the most significant thing that you can do for your future and your future life with someone is to work on your own crap. And I think that that's what grief recovery offers. It's a gift to

you. But you have to be willing to do the work, of course, and many people are not. And it's just where you're at at the time. So you look for someone else to heal those wounds for you, you looked for someone else to give you the love that you should be giving yourself. And I could go on a tangent right now, but I'm not, I just wanted to highlight how can it be that in a terminal diagnosis, couples can just shatter. And I believe that's why it's the straw that

breaks the camel's back. There is such a level of intimacy and struggle for the person that is both the supporter and the caregiver, but also the person who is the one that is diagnosed. It's reckoning, it's an awakening. I've never been diagnosed with cancer, but I imagine it is a great awakener. And it's grief, it is grief. Imagine the grief that it causes someone to just have learned while you have six months to

live. It is capable of knocking the wind out of the sails and sinking the heart of even the strongest person you know. And I do think that how you've handled challenges in your life before that experience or before that diagnosis is a precursor to how you handle the harder stuff that comes your way. And maybe thinking about how you've done that in the past, how have you handled challenging parts of your life in the past. And do you want to be emotionally

prepared? and I don't even know that anything can really prepare you to be honest, I don't think anything can. Nothing can for this life altering diagnosis, these changes, or these big losses that we experienced, like I'll talk about next with Eric story, nothing can prepare you for that. But I do feel there are tools out there that can help to support you in discerning what it is you need and helping you to become your best advocate for yourself. And we will learn those things by

digging deep into ourselves. And also I want to say that the worst thing is always what happened to you because no matter what, you will always experience it at 100%. There are no half Grievers out there. So just keep that in mind. So please check out Rachel's Episode 61: Life as a Cancer Wife, Widow and Never a Mother-to-Be because there's so much more to her story than I even covered here today. But I do like to keep these takeaways episodes kind of brief, there is

definitely more to his story. So I hope you take a listen. Now I'd like to share my takeaways from Episode 62 with Eric hodgdon, Opening the Door to a Parent's Worst Nightmare. In 2014, his 15 year-old daughter, Zoey, had taken her own life. And as he shared the story of how he learned about how that was done, I listened so intently. And I could visualize the story, I could visualize the moment as he was telling me, and

it literally broke my heart. I have a 16 year-old, a 14 year-old, and a 12 year-old, and just even thinking about it makes my eyes welled up. I cannot imagine that is why I titled his episode, which I struggled with, on what to title it, but it really came to me, that would be any parent's worst nightmare. It would just be your worst nightmare. Doesn't matter how it happened, but just stepping into your child's bedroom, expecting them to be in their bed, asleep, or falling

asleep. And just the unimaginable instead, is what you find. It truly hurts my heart. So it was a difficult episode for me to listen back when I had to edit it. But it's so important for me that I personally edit my episodes because well one, it's usually a few months from editing. I'm usually a few months out in editing from when we initially record. And so I feel like I need to hear it again in order to freshen up on the story and avoid it to be able to articulate what it is that I

felt when I first heard it. And to hear it a second time because I hear every Grievers story a second time when I go to edit. I walk away from editing, just amazed with the tenacity of the human spirit. We can endure so much more than I believe we give ourselves credit for. But in the moment, and the moment of that deep despair and sorrow. It's really hard to see three? five? ten? years into the future,

maybe even tomorrow. And this is why I'm loving in doing this podcast so much, that the people who come on this podcast brings hope to other Grievers. But here's the thing, if you were listening to this podcast, that is you too. That is you because you can take so much more than I think you give yourself credit for. There comes a time where you can only take so much. And I think that's when most people

seek out help and support. And I'll come back to the first part of this episode where I talked about support and help and how important it is. But for Eric, and for many gravers, it does take having this moment within ourselves, I meant for more than this. My life is more than this, more than this sorrow, more than this anger and more than this pain. I want my life to be fruitful and thrive. I want to thrive and I want to make something out of this crap that I've been handed.

I do think there are many have us that come to that place to. And unfortunately, there are many who stay in that place of sorrow and pain. And feel like this is just how it is. This is just what life is going to be. This is my new normal, they say now but it doesn't have to be. You have so much power of choice. You don't even probably realize it because grief does make us feel like we don't have a choice. But we do. You do, you do have a choice. And that's what Eric talks a lot about in

his episode. There was a defining moment where you felt like he heard Zoi's voice. He did. He said he heard Zoi's voice. And she was in so many words, I'm just paraphrasing, but just like "snap out of it, Dad, snap out of it.". And when we are so deep in it, it's really hard for us to do that. Sometimes it's a prayer that you just say out loud. And something happens within you, something turns within you, something flips. And that's really when my life kind of flipped, when I

finally surrendered. And I started to pray. To be honest, I hadn't stepped in a church and many, many years. And it happens differently for everybody. It doesn't happen for everybody, of course, because there are many Grievers out there who are still feeling hopeless. Again, that's the premise of this whole podcast, to bring hope to people. I think it's fitting that he titled his book, A Sherpa named Zoi. And it's because of what he has learned about himself through her, and

through that experience. And not to mention what he also learned about Zoi herself through stories that people shared with him after her passing. So we have an impact on people. And we often just never realize it. And that was one of the things Eric and I talked about. And it's so unfortunate that we don't feel like we can share with other people while we're alive and well, how much that person means to us, or how much impact they have in our lives, or they have

had on our lives. And just feeling this gratitude and expressing it for what they bring to our lives and what they mean to us and being grateful for the connection itself, because we are beings that thrive on connection. And again, it comes back to the support and feeling supported. And there's so many people who I know, that walk throughout their lives and don't feel supported. And I can offer my support in a thousand different ways. But as a person, they don't feel it within

themselves. That's a really unfortunate space to be in. And I think a lot of it comes down to trust. We also have to trust that we are supported. It has to come within us first before we can feel it from other people. And that's what so many things, obviously, love, connection. If we're feeling disconnected from ourselves, which often happens in grief, how can we then feel

connected with others. Feeling really begins when when we start with that self exploration, when it comes to grief, and want to share a quote that Eric had shared during the podcast episode. And he said, "just because your loved one lost their life doesn't mean your life is lost, too." And I thought that was such a beautiful, poignant thing. And it's true. And that's easy for me to say that it's true, because I haven't lived that experience. So don't take it from me take it from Eric, who's

lived it. He's lived that experience. And many guests on this podcast have lived through terrible experiences. And if they would have settled for the fact that their life was lost too, their gifts that they could have given the world wouldn't be out there. So let that settle in a minute. And just think about what your hopes and dreams were before grief, before loss that you've endured. What were they before? They're still there, there's still life left to live.

And I hope that Eric's story gives you hope that it's still possible to move forward. I hope Rachel story gives you hope that it's still possible to create a life that you love, even if it's the love you lost, even if it's your child, Eric has become an amazing mentor and leader in helping others really find their own strength through their struggle. And so I encourage you to check out his website, you can find it at erichodgdon.com.

And I think just looking at his website, you'll feel that he really made something out of this tragic, terrible loss that he's experienced. And there are so many tips too that he walks through on our podcast episode. He talked about the pressure that teens feel today and shared tips around that, as well as being a parent of a teen. It really was a great, great conversation. So I hope you check it out. And I do hope, again, that you find hope in

through their stories. Like Eric said, gratitude played a huge role in what he was experiencing when he was deep in his sorrow. And he had to constantly remind himself that gratitude of what is in my life right now. And so that is the question for you today, what is in your life right now that you can just feel so grateful for? of what is today in your life. And it was thanks to him, actually, that he shared about the Five Minute Journal, and I've now been using it for three months. I love it,

I absolutely love it. It's become part of my morning regimen. And I highly recommend it. And I do link to that in the show notes of Episode 62 of his episode, and I will link to it here as well. So and as well as to the episodes, both 61 and 62. You'll also find in the show notes, and I, again, encourage you to listen to those. So thank you so much for listening to today's takeaways and reflections episode. Again, I remind you about the energy quiz that I shared about the

beginning. If you haven't checked it out, it's on my you can find the link on my website. It's a quick 10 question, less than two minutes, you'll have a PDF that you can resource that you can use to figure out what nurtures and what drains your energy, what your energy type is. And I just am really proud of what I created with that. And so I would love for you to enjoy it as well. And it's free. That's you know, you're not going to get any further emails

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Until next time, take care and remember, when you unleash your heart you unleash your life. Much love