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Dragnet: The Big Smart Guy (EP1604)

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Release Date: June 20, 2015 

A woman is murdered in her apartment and Joe Friday and Ben Romero suspect her husband was involved.

Original Air Date: June 8, 1950

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for today's episode of Dragnet. The original air date June the eighth of nineteen fifty and the Tunnel is the big smart guy. The story you're about to hear is true, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent. Dragnet. You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned to homicide detail. A woman has been shot to death. The apparent motive robbery. The killer is still at large. Your job find him. Dragnet the documented drama of an actual

crime. For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. It was Friday, March sixteenth, was damp in Los Angeles. We're working the night watch out a homicide. My partner's Ben Romero, the boss's Thad

Brown, Cheap of Detectives. My name is Friday. It was eleven forty five pm when we got to where we'd parked our car second in May. A couple of drops on the windshiel, yeah, ohe it holds off. I was thinking of going up to see the Cubs and Bars play an exhibition game tomorrow. I guess maybe now a long you might be lucky. What's within a man's sake to get the video? It's a slow knife. Yeah, might not beat him. My night March seventeenth in it oh yeah,

sixteen through a color station all units. He was connedy of one O two South Virgil two eleven and shooting Coude three had one All units Virgil two eleven and Shooting CO three Unit thirteen. Happy Saint Patrick's Day, eleven fifty eight pm. We arrived at one O two South Virgin the bottom of hotel four story building. Sergeant Shimer medicine the lobby and informed us if the shooting took place at eleven forty pm in room four thirty two, occupied by mister and

Missus Theodore V. Benham. Missus Benham was the victim. We went up to the fourth floor where Officer McCready was stationed outside the room. An he wasn'ness is only Benham says it was a thief. Are you talking to people on the spot? And then I'm sorry anything? They're all in their rooms. Any other way out of here? A stairway in the rearly, it's the roof. I took a look. Nothing up there. Where's benim across the hall line down? Coxes with him? Okay's look at the body.

We went into the room, a dreary place with a single light hanging from the center of the ceiling. The carpet was faded and worn in spots. On the north side where a closet in the bathroom. Against the east wall was a dresser. Across the room was a double bed, and at the foot of the bed window looking out over the roofs of adjoining buildings and the marque of a movie house down the street. A steamer trunk was in the

corner, and a straight backed chair was next to the door. The mirror of the dresser was smashed, and on the dresser at Gideon Bible on the bed was the body of a woman's sprawled face down. There were several splotches of blood on her coat. From the chair was a thirty two twenty Revolver, which McReady said belonged to Benham, the husband of the murdered woman. We asked McCready to put in a call to the crime lab and we went across the hall to question Benham. This is an awful shock. I'm not

feeling well. I'm under doctor's care, hemophilia. Awful shock. Sit down, please, yeah, I don't know what it'll do to me. I should be in the sanitarium right now. Most thing you're taking care of Lincoln Sanitarium and Eagle Rock. Could you tell us what happened tonight? What? Yes, we my wife and I went out to the Sycamore Cafe over in Alvarado. What time was that, Oh about nine point thirty, had a couple of drinks and something to eat, and listened to a piano player.

Then came home. I unlocked the door and Elizabeth when in first, went over to the dresser. I just walked over to her when a man stepped out of the closet in the back of us. He had a gun. Can you describe him? I don't know, I don't know. Did you see his face? No? He had a blue bandann over his face, and he had a cap on a blue and white check. Did you notice his clothes? No, no, I didn't anything else. He seemed very nervous and he wasn't holding the gun still. My wife was opening a person.

I said, well, I haven't got very much, but I'll give you what we had, and he fired and hit Elizabeth. I put my gun from my overcoat and started shooting. Are you in the habit of getting a gun? No? No, no, I'd noticed suspicious looking men followed me late least I bought one. Is this the gun here? Yes? And then what happened? Well, if I had all the bullets, I don't know how I missed the room small He kept moving around all the time, but I guess I did miss. Then he ran out of the room.

How old would you say? This? Man? Oh, Sorr, I haven't the fast idea. I'll see you a minute, sergeant. Sure, we'll be back, mister Benham, this has been an awful shock to me. In her eyes, wife fell but creed. He told us that Sergeant Shimmer had found a woman in the Nevada hotel next door who might know something. When next door in question missus Caroline Cromwell, resident of the hotel.

She occupied room four fifteen on the top floor. She told us that about twenty seconds after she heard the shots, she looked out the door of her room and saw a man come down the back stairs, which leads to the roof of the hotel, and entered room four oh two. She'd seen the man several times and was positive of her identification. Sergeant Shimer said the man was registered as Jack Morrison, who went to room four oh two. Right again, what's that, police officer? What do you want? I'd

like to ask a couple of questions. I was going to bed. We'd like to talk to you. Won't take very long, all right? What do you want to know? How long you've been in your room? About ten minutes? W Where were you to the movie? Which one right down the street? Why are you asking me all these questions? You've been drinking? Hello? Not much? Man? If we look right a little, I was out all the time. I didn't know nothing about a shooting.

And you won't mind. If we're looking around, you won't find nothing here. He's all the clothes you've got. Yeah, it's your coat. Yeah, yeah, you're wearing this tonight? Were you no, it's only coat in the closet. What'd you do with the coat you were wearing? Guess I was wearing that one. Just spill it? What the bottle of whiskey it broke? How I know? You got a hole here in the sleeve. What do you do with a broken bottle? Through the way where?

I don't know? On the street, yo, I thought of something. Shirt stuck down between the wall and the back then looks like blood on it? Is this yours? Where's the shirt you wore tonight? Take off your pajama top? Why take it off? All right? But I didn't have nothing to do without shooting next door? What happened here? Guy shot at me? Who? I don't know. I bought a bottom, had a couple of drinks, and went to the movie for a little while away from

the bed place. I came out of the movie because I was getting dizzy, and I went up on the roof here to get some There. While I was standing there, guy ran across the roof and shot at me. What looked like I don't know. He came from the roof of the hotel next door and ran into this place. How big was he? It was dark. I couldn't see. What'd you do? Well? After I was sure he was gone, I came down. I was gonna have my arm fixed in the morning. Let her get your clothes on. Why you got

a pretty bad arm. You better have it fixed up. We'll take you to George Street Receiving Hospital. It's all right. I don't have to go there anything. Ben No, you got king shit? No ant better wear your pajama top. Then, oh, here's something. What'd you say? Your name is Jack Marts. Here's a card I found the close. It says Tommy Kane report for work Joe's Cafe at lock March First. Who's Tommy Kane? That's me? Where you're from? Elgin, Illinois? Why'd you

leave Elgin? No work? I've been bumming around you. Ever been arrested? I was picked up in a vague charge. Mon here. Yeah, I don't know why you guys are bothering with me. When somebody gets shot, we bother. We took King to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, where they found that a muscle in his upper right arm had been severed and the right side of his chest was bruised. Before taking him to ward, thirteen hundred General Hospital for free of the treatment. We took him back to the roof

of the Nevada Hotel. He's still trying to rain. Yeah. Well, where were you standing when he got shot at? King? Right over there? I was leaning against the bricks. And where'd the man come from? Out of that door in the other roof, the roof of the Bartlet Hotel. Yeah? Was he running when he shot at you? Yeah? Yeah, he was? Where'd you run? Right across here where we are? And then he went through this door here into the Nevada Hotel. Do you

notice anything unusual about him? Why? His face was covered with a handkerchief and he wore a checked cat But you said before it was too dark. Well, I could see that. I mean you know, I could see that. I couldn't see his face. And you were standing over there with the fairly yeah about yeah about here? Yeah, that's it. M all right, let's get over the roof of the Bartle a little high. Can I help you over? Come? On? Ben? Have you ever been

in this hotel before? King? No? Everything all right with grany? Yeah, crime labs here checking the murder room. Bet him awake? I think so, mister Benham. Yes, man, if we come in course, Now have you ever seen this man before? Let me see? Can you stand over there in the light? They are as I'm as good as they used to be. Move over there. How's that that's better? Just the man who shot your wife? No, that's not the man. We

left instructions for another car to take Theodore Benham to Lincoln Sanitarium. An Eagle Rhoy we took Caine toward thirteen hundred General Hospital. Two forty two am we arrived back at the Bartlett Hotel, where police chemist Ray Pinker had finished his examination. Three slugs thirty eight caliber and five slugs thirty two to twenty were found in the mattress in the walls, all on the same side of the room. On the floor of the room we found a piece of white cloth

and some brown threads. Ray Pinker returned to the crime lab while Ben and I made in search of both hotels, the incinerators, the alley in all likely places for the missing thirty eight was not found. Three forty eight am. Ben went to the record bureau to check on any possible criminal record Kane might have had. I went to the crime lab to see what Ray pinker had found nothing on in this one that's been a clean miss, and nothing

on these four thirty two twenties. Where'd you find those? The thirty eight out of the window frame thirty two twenties were in the south and east walls. How about the others here? Well, in these two thirty eight slugs, I found my minute portions of thread. They compare with the dress and coat. Want of the deceis? Ye bet? I checked Kane's record,

He told the true nothing more than a bag jar. Huh. I was just gonna those threads on two of the thirty eight slugs and on one of the thirty two twenties, same time threads and the same kind of thirty two twenty. That's a good venom yure. Yeah, did you check the cloth yet? Well, right now, venom must have been shooting off a while. Where'd you find that thirty two twenty slug? Right the floor under the

bed hasn't done any of the other thirty two twenties. Yeah, this piece of cloth matches the shirt about the coat and those threads got only a couple of threads that might match. Let me have a coat? Maybe right better have been him? Take another look at Cane. Huh yeah, I guess so. I could give you a cup of coffee, how about you as soon as we get finished. How about it? Right? You gotta make it? Yeah, I match now, that's it. Huh oh. One

more thing? Yeah, fresh stains on the carpet that room? What kind whisky? March eighteenth, we picked up Benham at Lincoln Sanitarium and drove him to the General Hospital. Three times. He asked us to stop someplace so he could have a drink. We told him to have to wait. We arrived at Ward thirteen hundred and one, and Caine was brought out. Take a good look, mister Benham. No that isn't the man, I'm sure of it. Kane. Tie this handkerchief over your face. No, this

way, that's right. I'll put on this cap Caine. I'll stand over there, please a little further. That's good, all right, mister ben You know his eyes and ford look a little familiar. But I don't know. All my nerves are all shot. I can't be positive. I'm a sick man, all right, King, I wish I could help you. Boys. Come along, please, you don't have to take me back to the sanatory, and just take me to a street car. I'll make it all right. Well, yeah, did I see you a minute? Sure?

Yeah. Did you notice anything when you first brought Cane out of the ward? No, you must have been closing the door. Yeah, I was that man Venom. He winked at him. You are listening to drag Net the case history of a police investigation. We took Venom back to his sanitarium. On the way, he asked if he could be excused from testifying at the ind question preliminary hearing. We told him it couldn't be done. Seven pm, Ben and I returned to the General Hospital and took Keen into

a small room adjoining the prison ward. After three hours of interrogation, he stuck to his story. Cigarette came, thanks, he's all right, hurt's little. Now when you guys going home, when we get a straight story. I've been telling you all. I know. Yeah, you've been telling it's the same story for two days. But it doesn't hold water. What do you mean, how do you account for the fact that parts of your clothing were found in that room? I told you before. You must have

made a mistake. No, no, it's no mistake. Mister Benham's starting to think you recognized? Why do you wink at you? He didn't wink at me. We got somebody here who saw him, and he seems to think whoever did the shooting didn't take the gun. When we drove him back to Santa Charami, he asked us if we found it yet, and thinks we will. How long has Benham lived in LA? A long time? How long? Why do you want to know how long he's lived? Here? Is a dead woman? Really his wife? Well? Certainly she's his

wife? What where's he been since the shooting in the sanitarium? An eagle rock? What's the matter with him? Nemophilia? You know what that is? No? You sure that was his wife? Positive? She wasn't a stool pigeon? Stool pigeon? Where'd you get that? At you? You guys never saw her before? Never? You never heard of her? Kane? What's eating you? Did you check on her? We always do,

don't make mistakes on anything like that. Do you look? She was a pretty nice woman from all we could find out, happily emerged for thirty years. Something's wrong? What Kane? What's wrong? Yeah? What beden him? Say about? We told you? He says, you look a little bit like the man. Do you say anything else? He winked at you, Cane. Why she wasn't a bad looking woman, wasn't she? Kane? All right now, how about it? You guys swear that was his wife? Yeah, okay, I'll tell you where the thirty eight is.

Where a mattress on the roof of the Nevada Hotel. Ven Him cut a hole in it that day. He told me to hide the gun there after shooting. All right, let's have a look. I don't want anybody to know I'm telling you of this. Why. Venam's a real smart guy. He's got a gang. He's in on it as much as I am. Yeah, he double crossed me. He tried to kill me. I'm going to jail. He's going with me, maybe he will. Caine told us

that he had known Benham for about two months. During that time, Benham helped him along by giving him a couple of dollars every once in a while. On March eleventh, Benham got Cain a room in the Nevada Hotel and gave him twenty dollars to buy a gun, which Cain did. On March fifteenth, he gave Kan a blue bandanna and a checkered cap. On March sixteenth, he told Kane that he'd been sent by a gang in Chicago to kill a woman who was a stool pigeon. He promised Kan one hundred dollars

for his help. Early that evening, Benham told Kane how to enter their room and where to hide when they came home. Benham stood with the door. Kane stepped out of the closet and after a few words, shot the woman. As he moved toward the bed, Benham started shooting at him. Caine ran from the room and hid the gun and the mattress on the roof, and then went to his room and flushed the cap and bandana down the

drain. Eleven fifteen pm, Ben and I found a gun where Cain said it would be thirty eight Special Detective Colt Revolver two winch Berrel number three eight one three two seven eleven fifty two PM. We checked and found no evidence that Benham belonged to any kind of a gang. March nineteenth nine am, Ben and I reported into homicide and picked up Captain Steed and we went over to doctor Wagner to learn his autopsy report. It showed that the deceased had

been shot three times. Two thirty eight slugs and one thirty two twenty were recovered from the victim's body. They were initial for evidence. Eight pm, Captain Steve ben and I went to the sanitarium and told Benham that there were a few angles we wanted to clear up before the inquest. Next morning. Benham got dressed and we drove back to the bottle of hotel was rained. I'm still trying to remember what happened. I was very shot that night.

Yeah, I suppose you were. Sometimes my memory comes back for a little bit the red line. Yeah, I see. You know, the man who did the shooting knew you lived in room four thirty two, and he knew you'd be gone that night. How do you suppose he figured that out? Well? I like been noticing that a lot of men had been following me suspiciously from man until back to Sergeant Friday, didn't nice Argee? Yeah, that's right, must have been one of them. You have to give

money to characters on the street so much they might follow you. That must be it. Many times I used to do that. I'd be nice toly try to make friends. Do you remember any of them. Yeah, yeah, I do. There was for men Dorsey, Jolly Swanson and fun name name Laine Kine. Yeah, then that's a king. There you are there, you are the young manuflquency in the hospital thing. I believe that's Kine. Are you sure? Quite sure he's the burglar? What makes you think

he was a burglar or what else would he be? He didn't rifle an he or is he stealing anything? Did? He must have got there just before us. Did you have anything important there? Oh? Yes, some insurance policies and your wife. Yeah how much? Well one policy for fourth cosm two for twenty five hundred years. Who's the beneficiary? Right? I am. We took Ben him up the room four thirty two where he got out the insurance policies on his wife and showed them to us. Then Captain

Steed asked him to reenact the shooting. Benham acted as the killer. I played Benham and Ben acted as his wife. Well, the man was over here in the closet. My wife and I came in that door, and then my wife went over to the dress room. Oh over here, you turned on the light, oh yeah, and then I closed the door went over behind her like this, she was closer to the bed. Yeah, yeah, well you standing next to her? Yeah, do you start to take off your coach. I was just going to when this this man stepped

out of this closet here how far? Oh? Here? Yeah? Yeah right here? None. Well he had the gun, they said, and asked how much money we had. Elizabeth said, we didn't have much from here. Yeah, but but but she turned around. Yeah that's it what happened then? Well then I said, I haven't got very much, but I'll give you what we have started shooting. Yeah, but you said before that your wife started looking in her purse. Yeah, that's what she did.

I forgot and that made him think she was going after a gun. How do you know, Well, I suppose that's what he thought. He shot, and Elizabeth fell on the bed. I pulled out my gun and started shooting, and the man right out the door. And that's all. That's exactly what happened. Huh, just as I remember it. Will I help you not very much? What's the matter? Well, if you were standing where I am, there'd be bullet holes on that side of the little

there, wouldn't you. They're all on this side. See I got it. Come with me where you're going on the roof for I want to show you something. Yeah, it's raining. There are two umbrellas in the ties it. I'll get them. Why do you want to go up there? I think I know where that gun might be hidden. I bet it's there here. You take this umbrella, we'll take this one, Captain. Let's go. I bet it's up there. We'll find you. You got your

wife's like ben, Yeah, should be around here somewhere. What's the mattress? My wife used to take sun baths on it? Where would it be? But just about here? I don't see any Sure it's up here. I bet it's on the next room. Didn't you say can't live in that hotel? He probably won't do any flash light over there, behind an ell of a chap there, Yeah, there, it's here. We have to climb over this part. But to get on the other roof. Watch the gap. It's pretty slippery. Okay, yeas slipping. Okay, mh this

mat is here. That's it. Take a look all right, No, nothing here? Did you look all around there? Did you look in the corners? No, that would be a good place to hide a gun. Don't you think and let me see. It might be a hole cut in one of them. H maybe the other corner. Now maybe this one. Yeah, you see the matches have been cut. No, no, it's got to be here by h Yeah. Here, I know it can I'll find it. I'll find it. Go away, you see, I'll get it. I know it can't. I'll fight you would, I'll get it.

I'll get it. He's getting wet, Jill. We got the thirty eighteen. Told us about it. You're ready to talk. Yeah, insurance that why you did it? Yeah, I'm a sick man. Let's go about him on your peak. All right. They played that ball game the other day. Yeah, who won? Fired? Sure do dag? Baseball must be a real nice business. Yeah. Fans only yell, but they never do it. Let's that kill the empire. The story you have just

heard was true, only the names were changed to protect the innocence. On July, second trial was held in Superior Court, Department eighty nine, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. In a moment the results of that trial, Thomas Kane was convicted of second degree murder and received a term as prescribed by law. Theodore V. Benham was convicted of first degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon. He received a life sentence and died

in prison one year later. You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from the Office of Chief of Police Way Wharton, Los Angeles Police Department. This is NBC, the National Broadcasting Company. This is Andrew Ryans with OTR Westerns dot com, where we stream live old time radio Westerns twenty four hours a day, seven days a week with a special twist. You select the tracks that get to

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this was an interesting tank on the idea of the perfect murder. If you were reading a book or watching a movie, you'd see the perfect murder committed by a swave rich, wealthy man to get even more wealthy off the death of his wife. Here we see a guy planning and watching a nine thousand dollars plan and proves in the process that he's not quite as smart. And many programs would say things like you can't outsmart the FBI, you just can't

defeat the police. Here, though, they opt to instead just show somebody try, and they get the message across just as effectively, if not more so. Now, what oddity about this episode for listeners who were born in the last sixty years ago? Is this idea of going to see the Pirates and the Cobs play in an excavation game in Los Angeles. Important thing to remember was that at this point, the LA did not have its own major

league team. In fact, in nineteen fifty if you wanted to see Major League baseball and you were west of Saint Louis, you were pretty much out of lock. Major League Baseball wouldn't come to Los Angeles until nineteen fifty eight. Los Angeles played host to at least one and occasionally two minor league teams. There was the Los Angeles Angels, and another minor league team that played

there was the Hallleywood Stars. The Angels played at Wrigley Field, and yes, there was a Wrigley Field in Los Angeles, and it had more parking available than the Wrigley Field in Chicago. In fact, it's still it has more parking than the current Wrigley Field situation. And it was not only the home for minor league baseball, it was where Hollywood went to film baseball movies.

They filmed the Pride of the Yankees there, along with the original Angels in the Outfield movie from nineteen fifty two, and of course the Home Run Derby series from the early sixties. There was also an episode of The Twilight Zone that was filmed there, as well as an episode of The Monsters. I know I'm getting a little off topic, but it came up in my research, and Wrigley Field in Los Angeles is on the list now of places

I would love to go and visit if I got a time machine. But yeah, teams could definitely come through and play exhibition games on the West Coast, just as they play exhibition games in Florida and Arizona as part of spring training. But Major League Baseball was still about eight years away from coming west. And then we do have a comment here from Hia, who says, Hi, it's Hia Simpkin. My boyfriend and I both love dragnetting your Dragonnet

shows. I have a couple questions about the mission scene. What is the song played when everyone goes marching off to launch. The answer is that it was Onward Christian Soldiers, and it was a song where the words were written by the Anglican priest Sobbing bearing Gold in eighteen sixty five, and the music

was written by Arthur Sullivan of Gilbert and Sullivan in eighteen seventy one. It's commonly associated with the Salvation Army as their professional hymn, and having it played there at the end of a service does kind of evoke the Salvation Army. But in a more practical sense, the song had the virtue under the then

copyright laws. In effect, a song would only be in copyright for a total of fifty six years, so that one came into the public domain in nineteen twenty seven, so the music could be used without paying any sort of royalty. The second question is this next one may be a dumb question, since I don't know much about Christianity. Why does the preacher call everyone brother?

And sister. I know Catholics call monks and nuns that, but whether the mission is Catholic or not, this can't be the case since Friday and Romero aren't monks at all. Thank you for your show. It's a great way to start the week. Well, hi, it's been quite a while since they mentioned their outfits now, Seriously, that is a good question. There are various different approaches to how people are addressed in various Christian denominations.

Some will use a phrase brother or sister to relate to all Christians, or they'll use it to relate to all people as brothers and sisters. There is an important thing to say about Dragnet in the nineteen fifties and when it comes to the way that it rites and portrays Protestant missions and ministers. And certainly there was definitely no sort of ill will intended, but there really wasn't any apparent research, and so the way that they're written is just very court kind

of cheesy and in a way that's really clunky. It wasn't actually all that bad last week, but it is something that you will hear throughout the series, where for whatever reason it was just not as well researched, and it may have been because because there were assumptions about the audience of the time that you were dealing with a nation where perhaps majority Protestant, and so they would actually know how an actual Protestant minister would sound. So I wasn't really thought

of as a big deal. And of course it wasn't just Dragnet. You'll find in a lot of shows and movies that there are kind of very basic, stereotypical pictures that are painted and I think that did become a bit of an issue for the Salvation Army, and in nineteen fifty eight they launched their own radio series, Heartbeat Theater. The series highlighted the Salvation Army's role as a provider of community relief and social services and there are efforts to help people

throughout the community to highlight the sort of work they did, and it was

a very good series that actually continue to run into the nineteen eighties. But in short, with Dragnet, you'll get a lot of grain looks at how things were in the nineteen fifties and so many areas, but I would say that that one area where you probably don't really get a feel for how people are like or were like as when the show goes into portraying rescue missions and Protestant ministries as they just tend to go for the more hoky and like I

said, last week wasn't the biggest example of that, but there are others, so consider your self advice. All right. Another listener comment, Michelle comments, I love the details you give us in the commentary before and at the end of each show. Thank you for all your research and enthusiasm. And then Douglas says, your followers may be interested to know they can download

almost every radio show ever produced for free at archive dot org. Thanks Douglas, and you can certainly download most of those who are that are available at archive dot org, though a few of the more obscure series you'll have to search elsewhere for all right, Well, that will do it for today. We will be back tomorrow with our sixteen hundredth episode special It's Edmund O'Brien you won't want to miss it, and then join us on Monday for the Saint.

Next Saturday, we'll be back with another episode of drag Net. In the meantime, sendra comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net. Follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives and become one of our friends on Facebook, Facebook dot com Slash Radio Detectives and from Boise, Idaho, this is your host, Adam Grahamson and all

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