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going too fast? Is that's their biggest fear? Like they can't. Some people say the airplanes. Airplanes are their biggest fear. I know mine, and I want to talk about it on this podcast. I want to bring in our warehouse manager at EE Apparel and several time podcasts guest ex drummer of mine, Caleb Kelly. He is always has such a great perspective, so I want to talk about that. I also want to dive into your questions, which you could ask me at Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com.

I hope everyone had a great holiday season. This is the last podcast of twenty twenty, and there's like a sigh of relief when I even say that, because twenty twenty has been such a crazy year for all of us. And I'm not talking about all of us as in ue apparel in my band. I'm talking about all of you too. This podcast is listened to by so many different countries and different cultures around the world. I get your emails, and it's wild that this year has affected

all of us. Usually you would say something like this has affected this city, or this county, or this state, or sometimes this country. But this is rare that we could say that this has truly affected the world. It's not like a hurricane that affected a region. This has affected the world. And there's a sigh of relief thinking that we're going into a new year, a new calendar year, and I think it's so much on our shoulders to take on. What kind of perspective will we have going

into twenty twenty one? What will we take away from twenty twenty? What will we never take for granted again that we learned by having less of it or none of it in twenty twenty, like touring. What will we look forward to and say, you know what I learned that this is where I put my foot down this is where I say, no, I will not go any further. Maybe this is a time where we say I've learned to bend. I've learned to I have an opinion on something, and now I've learned to put my opinion aside, put

my ideology aside, and move in a different direction. So you got two different two completely different perspectives. People that know I will no longer bend, and people that maybe say I've learned how to bend. Where do you fall on this whole thing? I think no matter where you fall, I think we could all agree it's nice to at least turn the calendar year into twenty twenty one, get

away from that twenty twenty stigma. Although we all know that just because the calendar changes doesn't mean the world's going to change or the pandemic is going to change it. It's a nice clean fresh start in our minds, and sometimes our minds is what leads to the full change or the full destination that we're heading for. All things to consider, and one thing to take in right now for me is that a lot of things happened for

me in a positive way because of twenty twenty. The earl Devils truck restoration that happened only because of twenty twenty, only because of me. Butch and Bull were off from touring and mom. Mom had this old barn with my old and dad's old truck in it. I go pick it up in a flatbed and take it here to the Yegee Farm to rebuild it. That a will happened because of twenty twenty. Of this podcast is now a weekly thing. I was maybe heading that direction, knowing that

I probably should make it a weekly thing. But when twenty twenty hit and we stopped touring, I thought, Okay, here it is. It's time to make the podcast an every Monday thing. So there are a lot of There are a lot of things that I'll look back on years from now ago that was because of twenty twenty. There's bad things, of course, but there are thinks as years go by, we'll see more of the positive and we'll go it was twenty twenty that allowed that to happen,

or opened the door for that to happen. What do you say about that? And how many things have you now realized that twenty twenty has opened the door for That's all stuff to think about. I want to talk about this and I want to talk about what my greatest fear is. Welcome to the podcast episode sixty four. Ye ye did change in month time line by fool

up and down during back crazy cool. Yeah thatation. So during the truck giveaway at ee Appearl, I remember at one point it was like really late at night, like twelve thirty at night, and the contestants were out their hands on the truck and they were just talking, talking, talking. I guess they were trying to think of things to keep their minds occupied. But there their conversation was what is your biggest fear? And so as I'm going by, I was actually taking a picture of them on the

roof and they're like, Hey, what's your greatest fear? And the reality is I said deep water, Like that's that's my That is it? Like I don't feel great about being really really high, you know, like if I want to, if IM at the Grand Canyon, which I brought that up to, I could be at the Grand Canyon and I could be sitting on the edge and dangling my

legs right, and I don't feel good about that. But that's nothing compared to how I feel about deep water and the way that I always and the way that I told them that day was, imagine you're you're in some really really deep channel with an unknown bottom, and there's a some kind of warship floating in the middle, tied up, and they say, we need you for a bet. Swim under the warship. The propellers are off, they're they're there,

but they're not turned on, the engines off. But you need to swim all the way under the propellers, unknown what's in these waters, and come out the other side and be like, Nope, it could be a million dollars. I'm not doing it. I'm not going in that water. Not my jam, deep dark water, No thanks. And then you remind me today of the story of us in California, a band trip we're on. I guess we were on

tour if you call it that. We didn't have very many people that listened to our music back then, was about twenty eleven, Yeah, yeah, twenty eleven or twenty twelve, went out to LA and played well, we went to Steel Panther that was we played, but not many people came to see us. And we did do a specific trip to We're in like LA, and we decided to go and paddleboard. Was it La or San Diego or wherever?

I think Pacific Beach. I'm gonna get it wrong. I'm not from there, but it was gorgeous and like a week before I forget who else for the name was, but he said that there was a great white shirt siding at that. Seal Rock is what they called it. Yeah, that's right, seal Rock. Do you know seal Rock? If you're listening, you know seal Rock. So, seal Rock is a is a famous place on the beach, and we decided it's a good idea to paddle board out there. Yeah,

and what we said it was an idea. Yeah, we didn't decided it was a good idea, right, We decided it was an idea to paddle board because other people were doing it, not a lot, but there was like maybe one other guy out there doing it. Johnny had gone out before us too, Yeah, bass player Johnny had done it and the guy that was we were. We

couldn't afford hotels back then, especially in La. So we were crashing at one of Tyler's high school buddies apartment and he had paddle boards and you could literally take your paddle board and walk from there to the water. Yeah, that was awesome. So we're like, cool, we've got the afternoon to kill. Let's go out there and we'll paddle about. How hard can it be? You stand on this board if you've never done this before, it's a massive board.

It's bigger than a surfboard. It's massive, super what could go wrong? You stand on a massive board, You paddle yourself around and you it's got rubber on the bottom so you're not going to slip off, and you get to see the sights and you get to enjoy a nice day at the beach. You know, the water's cold, so you don't have to swim in the water. You're on top of it. Sounds nice, sounds super easy, sounds easy, self explanatory. So we go at the seal rock wrong

and this is how far from the shore? Like I was probably only yards from memory, that's what it fired. Six hundred yards Yeah, I guess that's about right. Yeah, because we had to get through five football fields. Yeah, we had to get it. You can see it from from the coast. And was like, oh, yeah, it sounds pretty cool. There's been a great white out there. Paddleboard out to it. I was, I was. I was a little shocked at how hard it is to even just get out to where you can just stand out and

paddle board. And the water is crystal clear, which is bad because you could see straight down an infinite amount of feet down. I mean it's probably it's probably like one hundred feet, but it seems like it could be a thousand and you wouldn't know the difference. All deep dark water to me is a thousand feet. Yeah, And there's all sorts of ugly creatures in there, and there

is to help build the scene. There's this kale is that what it is called kelp is like a kelp for it cannot kale kale for kelp, it's kelp, that's right. And and there's it's like a kelp forest. So these long they're like underwater trees, but they don't come out of the bottom. They come out of the surface, and they do grow down right. I didn't know that at all. I didn't know that's a I don't think they grow

from the bottom. They grow from the top down. And they are twenty feet long, and there's just it's a forest of them. So as you're paddleboarding over them, you look and you just see these It's kind of beautiful. I mean you're in crystal clear blue water and you're looking down at these green, upside down trees growing down into an infinite depth. So it's beautiful, but terrifying, Absolutely terrifying, especially knowing there's seals that you could see active seals

swimming around. They're jumping on these big volcanic rocks. And with seals, there's great white sharks. Yeah. So it's this big rock that has a bunch of seals on it, that has a kelp forest around it. It's like and we decide to go paddle board out to it, which was god awful idea. And you don't don't really realize any of this until you're out there because from the sand you're looking out you're like, dude, you want to do you guys want to go up there? Yeah? Hey,

well so and so has some paddle boards. We could just literally does it cost anything, No, it's free. You just go grab just walk out there and just go cool. Does it take any kind of experience? No, you just literally stand on the board and paddle. Yeah. Skipping the part where you like, you know, everybody's seen like Baywatch or whatever where you you grab the board. This mountain man had no idea how to do it. You know.

You grab the board and you're like, I've seen it, you know, I've seen Uh was a point break, you know, where you put the board down, you paddle out, and then when the wave comes to crest over you, you just kind of hold onto the board and you push down and you go through the wave and then you go to the next one. Yeah, I didn't do that. Did that work out for you? No? I didn't. I

put my mind out quickly. I was terrible. So I put my hands down on the board and I was like, cool, I'm gonna do that thing where you just kind of punched through the water and I hit the wave, the wave hit the board, the board hit my face, and then I kind of rolled around, eventually making it through the wave. But it was not It was not like the movies. No, I remember you being pretty good. You're just kind of naturally good at that kind of stuff.

I was bad, and you don't. It's one of these things, like I said, you don't realize it till you're in. You're four hundred yards from the shore and you're in kelp forest with an infinite depth, and you realize, man, this is kind of scary, and I'm kind of getting tired. Which is the problem is when you start getting tired, that's kind of the problem with most things in life. When you start getting tired and fatigued, you lose your

sense of space and balance and perception. And I'll go ahead and I'll jump to the punchline just to say we did not see a shark that day. No, I don't want to lead this story like we're going into I'm about to see a shark bite my foot. We didn't see one, not that we saw. I think he was there. Not to say that one didn't see us, I think right what you're saying, but his evil spirit. What did happen was I got tired and at some level when we thought we should probably start heading back,

I fell off. And that is not the place you want to imagine your two little legs kicking on the side of a massive plastic white board a beacon for a dinner bell. You already look like prey. Yeah, we were like thirty yards from the seal Rock and that's where you fell off into the Kelp forest. By seal Rock that has seals on it into the water. I fell off For a split second. I was like, he's gone. Bro, Yeah,

told me that he's gone. He was a good guy. Well, I couldn't move really fast or I'd fall off and join you, and I did not want to join you. I don't remember there's two or three of us, Tyler, I think was with us. I thought it was just me and you. Yeah, it was just me and you. Well that's my memory is at that point, it was just me. So we were gone. Bro. You didn't make an effort to jump off. And it wasn't like I

was having trouble in the water. It was the fact that I was in the water that you just don't want to be in the water in the cup forest by seal Rock. And it was sheer panic in my eyes because I just thought, here here goes. You know that any minute, mister great white Jaws is going to take my legs and that's going to be the end, and I will have officially died inside my deepest fear. I mean, the seals are getting taken out. Seals are bigger than me, yeah, and they have little legs and

little faces like me. I'm not that different than the seal. I you know, I don't have as much blubber, but man, I was watching you. The seals were watching you. Shark was probably watching you. I remember sitting still like he's gone, bro, just there's nothing you can do about it, and you can't popping out of that water like a wet cat. I made it back out, and here I think I fell again. I made it back onto the todder board, and I think on the way back in I fell

two or three more times. We had passed, we had passed the Kelp Forest by then. I remember, right after you first got on your board, after you fell the first time, both of us kind of like, you know, like guys like, I mean, we can go in if you want to go in, I'm in, yeah, And then we headed in, both realizing that it was really stupid idea. So I take I take questions on this podcast granger Smith Podcast at gmail dot com. Email me right now.

If you're listening and you're thinking you have a fear that we that Caleb and I should talk about, and make sure in the subject line you put my greatest fear. Put my greatest fear and email it to Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com and then I'll make sure Caleb you come back, because you are one of the guys that has probably less fear of any other human I've ever met, probably the least you have the least amount of things that scare you. Yeah, as you say, thank you,

but thank you. So this would be this would be a good subject for a future podcast as I could go through some of your greatest greatest fears and read them aloud off the cuff, and we could just go down the list and we could say yep, yep, yep, validated, validated. I don't know about that one, and that good be a episode now that you know mine, what is yours? Uh? Deep dark Water and Neil Diamond music right there, both

equally terrifying. You remember that movie Saving Silverman? Yes, and unfortunately it was a really good movie, and that that was the one where what was it saying that they're like, I hate Neil Diamond. He goes, yeah, well he's our hero and he's an America songwriter. Yeah, that was a good movie. Still still Neil's not getting off the hook.

Terrible music. Yeah, that was a funny movie. That was one of the old movies we watched the Van he okay when he gets on the vand when he gets in there and he's like, this is a mission of love. It was a it was a funny movie up until that point. I was like, see Neil Roon as he does.

Everyone could relate to Saving Silverman because you've either been in a relationship like that with an absolute crazy person, or you've definitely been involved in a friend sir, where one of the friends is in that relationship and all the guys are or maybe girls. I can't speak for the girls, but all the guys are conspiring on how to break them up to get their friend back. We've all been in one of those two situations. Everybody's known

a Yoko Yeah right yeah. Unfortunate for the Beatles. So let's take a break and then let's answer some of the questions. We don't have the scared questions yet, but remember to email about your greatest fear. We're going to take a break, do a sponsor break, and then me and You're going to answer some questions that people have already asked. What's up? Everybody? Thank you for watching and listening to this podcast. Wherever you are. I'm grateful that

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these into light and heavies. I've also I've started I've getten so many questions from people. Again, it's Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com. I've gotten so many questions that I've started dividing it into light heavy God Brothers, Amber seemed to be greatest fear. All these different folders categories. I have an other folder, okay, but this is out of my light folder. I'll start with the oldest one, which comes back in September. It's from Patrick, and Patrick's

from Harrison, Ohio. He says, would you ever be interested in writing a book about your career, family, faith, grief, et cetera. I feel like you're very knowledgeable and could provide so much insight to these topics. You're my inspiration to maybe become a better father, husband, man of God. Hope to see you in Cincinnati in October or after the world gets back to normal. Ye gee, Patrick, Ohio. Bro I'm so sorry we didn't make it to Cincinnati

in October. Obviously, it's the the problem with reading some of these questions that are old. I'll get a lot of these questions. It's interesting, though, Patrick, that you asked this question because I had a call today at two pm with our book an agency and with their book department, and they actually canceled. They canceled. This is the second time they've canceled. I'm not too happy about it. In fact, you want going to read, You're gonna read to everyone

right now. Her response, this is the book, lady. They canceled the book. Yeah, she said, it's all all caps. It's all on me. I'm truly sorry, Granger. My nanny belled on me today. I'm looking forward to talking to you about this book, but don't want to give you anything but one hundred percent of my focus. That's just how I roll, and you deserve better. It won't happen again, Scouts on her. So anyway, I thought it sounds sounds she sounds nice call. The call about the book is canceled.

I'm just trying to say that for the sake of answering this question. That to say that I'm actually in the process of putting a book together, I don't and what that call is going to be about is going to be about what's the book going to be about? That? That's really like, that's what this lady specializes in, is getting someone's brain and all the scattered pieces and going okay, let's focus on that subject, like is it going to be about music or is it going to be about

touring band? Is it going to be about grief and loss? Is it going to be about I don't know. Second record producer does with an artist in the studio. Yeah, almost exactly that, taking all those thoughts and just say okay, here's what we're going to focus on. So to answer your question, Patrick, yes, I'm going to get on that. Thank you for asking it, And I don't know when I'll be able to announce anything else about it. Besides, that's all I know is wait on a phone call.

Let's go to another out of light category here. This question crumbs from Scott. It says sorry, these are uncensored. Sometimes it says I'm too poor to afford a cameo. I come from a poor farming family, so I'm not getting anything for my birthday. But could you possibly think about wishing me happy sixteenth birthday? I understand if you can't, Buddy, happy sixteenth birthday. Consider this absolutely free shout out. This podcast is free, so I appreciate you reaching out. Sixteen

is a big one. And yeah, we're a little bit late because this question came in September, but Scott, I hope you're still listening. Me and Caleb both want to say happy birthday, buddy. Unless it was a misspelling and you want cauldn't afford a camaro? Yeah, maybe cameo. Cameo is a is a website that I could do like a birthday shout out. That's what he's talking about. You could buy a video, a personalized video from me that then you could give to a friend or you get

it for yourself. So it's either that or camaro. I can't ord a camaro either. Yeah, I thought you were gonna buy him a Camaro for a s let's see. Oh, here we go. I got excited because his name's Denver, but I thought it might relate to you, k because you're from Colorado. But this question comes from Denver Massy. He says, Hey, I'm Denver Massey. I'm from horn Lake, Mississippi. Shout out to Mississippi. I messaged you on cameo. It's

either that or camaro. That says, how long did it take for you to quit any other jobs you were doing just to gig full time? When did you know it was time for that leap? And when are you gonna let me open a show for you? I hope all is well with you and your family. Man, So it sounds like Denver is a musician. Shout out to you, buddy, and you Caleb. This is perfect right up your alley as a fellow musician here, what what would you say

to Denver? His question is, when you're working a job to pay the bills, when do you know what you could take that leap into full time gigging. That's tough one. I mean that's tough because when I started touring with you, I was still working a job as well, but this was back in the day. But I would work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and leave like Wednesday night with you guys, get home Sunday morning, go back to work Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. Yeah. So I think the way to answer

that question, Denver, it's pretty civil. Sounds complicated, but it's pretty simple. When you're paid gigs start interfering with your work gigs your day job, and your boss can no longer be flexible because you're missing so much, that's when you know it's time to make the leap. And you don't do it anytime before then, you don't, I think it's I would be ill advised for me to tell you to quit your day job and jump into a music gig that doesn't exist yet for the sake of

having more time to write and craft. Right, So, you might be thinking I don't have any time because I work so much on having time to write music or to work on my band. But you do. I mean you just you cut out some Instagram time, cut out some Facebook time, cut out some Netflix time. You could always find ways in your day to carve out Okay, I got home from work. I just worked eight hours

at work. I just want to rest. Okay, you got to make that sacrifice that and add a little discipline to your day and said, now I musta been an hour working on guitar or writing a song or practicing with my band in the garage tonight from nine pm to eleven pm. I would not advise leaving work until you've got the bills paid with your paid gig, and even then when you absolutely have to call the boss one more time to get off to go travel and he says, hey, man, I'm gonna have to let you

go if you keep doing these gigs, then you go. Okay, now decision will be made. Right. That was cool. That was cool when it happened because initially, like I said, I was having to work. I only had Sunday afternoons off in between us touring and then me doing electrical work, and then eventually, eventually all I was doing was playing drums, which was the coolest thing in the world. But yeah, did it until I could just get playing music? Yeah?

Would you say say yes to everything? It takes it now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I mean there's nothing wrong with working that working that job and working on your your gig. Every musician in the world pretty much has done that. And if it means that much to you, you'll stay up late. Yeah, you're right right, You'll stay up late. Yeah, you'll You'll

carve out that Instagram time. It's crazy, and I've talked about this before on this podcast, but it's crazy what you could find out about yourself if you time block right down your day, like, say, okay, for these next three days, I'm going to log everything I do. Okay, eight, I got up at seven, and from seven to eight, I'm mid coffee, brushed my teeth, you know, got dressed, took a shower or whatever, and then from nine to ten.

If you just seriously write that all down, and then you'll be shocked when you go back and read that and go dude, I spend three hours and forty five minutes average daily just on Facebook you know, there's your rehearsal time, there's your songwriting time. Yeah, you know, seven hours in the bathroom. That's embarrassing. Yeah, seven hours in the bathroom, an hour every day, catching up on Grangersmith's podcast. What that is great to keep doing? Keep doing that? Well,

go another light here and then we'll switch to heavy deal. Uh. This is from Tony once again. I'm kind of catching up here on emails. This is from September, but it says he's from Chico, California. Love that town, Love our fans in Chico. What's up? And this is a little bit of a long one, so I'm going to try to I'm trying to find out what are you saying here? Said, I have the pleasure of meeting you during a meet and greet on December seventh, twenty nineteen, in Chico, California,

at the Senator Theater. It was great, and I had the pleasure of giving you a Christmas ornament. It's funny that we're reading this now in December. We're a year removed from a very different twenty nineteen. He says, you're my favorite artist, more than King George, more than garth Man. Thank you, dude. He said, I'm a big fan and I'm hooked on the podcast. That's so cool, he said, leading into my question. I have so many he says.

I know your music is growing more mature. It seems like a natural progression while many artists are still recording the same kind of message material year after year. Actual question here, it says Grander, looking back on your catalog and the songs over the years, are there songs that you now rethink maybe a message or a thought that was good at the time, but maybe not right for me now? If so, can you share your thoughts. I

think that's a tough one. I mean, nothing's gonna I mean a song that you wrote in the past, is it applicable to you right now. You've been playing my catalog, You've played almost everything in my catalog going back to two thousand and four five. And it's a good question. It's a legit question because you would think I wrote a song about a girl I was dating for say per se, and now I've long since broke up with

that girl and I'm now married with children. Why would I ever sing a song about that old girl that was not a good girl. And so that's probably what he's thinking, I see what you're saying. Or I don't want to sing about me and my buddies in college, you know, with bonfires and trucks, because I don't do that every day anymore. Maybe they's thinking that something like that, And I think it's a good question. But I am.

Every year that goes by, every year I get removed from an album, an old album, I get less critical

of it, which is weird. When our album first comes out and the year that follows, that's when I'm the most critical about those lyrics and that melody and that music and those songs, and I think, oh, I could have done that better, or I wish I wouldn't have said it that way, or but when ten years go by, it becomes like an antique, and then you kind of enjoy the scars and the scratches and the dings and the wobbling ness of it. You know, it's antique. It's

supposed to be. It's supposed to be have its flaws. Yeah, it's like a yearbook, you know. So it's fun. I'll sing those songs as long as people are excited about them at the live show, and I don't I've said this before I don't have much interest into playing music at my shows just for the sake of me loving that music. I like to play it if other people love it, because then in turn, that makes me feel

better about playing it. Yeah, and aren't they like, once you write that song and release that song, it only partially belongs to you. Those are now someone else's first kiss, dude, last kiss. That's great, you know, like that's only partially yours, but it's kind of your duty to give them that

nostalgia that is associated with that song. That's great. We mean you have had that discussion in the van, like late night drives in the van, and we've had these these long drawn out discussions on why do you make music or why do you perform music? And who does that music belong to? Because you're right, at some level, when I write we'll say, we'll say Earld it was Junior.

We'll just say America. When I write America, that's not mine anymore once it releases, because there's people that like that's the that's their bumping song, or you take a love song like happens like that. I can't I can't look at somebody that literally got married and that was their first dance. I can't look at them and go,

that's not your song, that's my song. It's my song. Yeah, So I have to assume their their partial ownership in everything once it's released to the world, and I it's not me speaking because I feel I feel an ownership to some of George Strait songs and some of all the music that I love. I feel partial ownership, like that's mine. That's why people say that's our song. A couple, that's our song. No one pulls out a you know, a lawyer's agreement and goes, where does it say you

own this song? That's my jam. Yeah, that's my jam. They don't say that's his jam that I that I listened to, that's his jam. He wrote. The term is that's my jam. That's our song. Everybody's been to a concert where they either didn't play that song or they didn't play that song, but then they came back and played on played it on the encore and you're like, ah, man, if they didn't play that song, I was gonna be

really upset because that's your memories. It's closely a sign, closely assigned to you, like something you did or someone you were with. Yeah. So to say that an old song of mine that I might not, I might not experience that life moment anymore, or it might be embarrassed of it for any reason. To say that I'm gonna pull it out of my catalog forever is to say that no one else because I can't relate to it anymore, no one else can either. And that's not that's not

a way to approach it. I'm not saying that every artist doesn't do that, because there's probably a lot of artists that do that that say Nope, ain't never played that song again, not that I like, it's pretty selfish. I heard, for instance, I heard, you know Corey Morrow, who's a Texas, Texas country sing Corey Morrow is known regionally in the state of Texas, and I've known him

for twenty years. He had a come to Jesus experience in his life where he suddenly became Corey Morrow the evangelist really, and what that did was suddenly he didn't want to play certain songs, like he has a song called big City Stripper. He will and it was like one of his most popular songs. He will not play big City Stripper. This is our merch guy Matt used to work for him. This is where I heard the story from. So Matt told me just the other day.

It's like Corey will not play it and people get mad. I'm not advocating for it or against it in this scenario. I'm just saying it's a scenario of a time when an artist goes, I'm never playing that song again. That's interesting. So it's a great question. Although that's that's slightly different. Well no, it's not different, but like he can't be like, yeah, I'm married, I met my wife. Our first dance to

that song makes me think of my wife. Well, here's a question from Bobby, and it says see where he's from. I don't think it says that. It says, hey, Grander, did you ever have any other album titles for Remington? If so, what were they and how did you decide on Remington from the start your album Remington is how I found you, and Remington just happens to be a significant part of my family tree. Thank you, Bobby, Appreciate you, Bobby,

Thanks for the question. I could probably say that there's some albums that I went back and forth on a title for Remington is one of the ones that I'm pretty sure, and this was in I think Remington was like twenty fifteen, and I'm almost positive that Remington was a title that I wanted for the album before I even wrote that song. And sometimes it just happens sometimes I go, Man, what if this album was called Remington.

It's just like a solid American name, And then I could base the theme of the album around that title, and so then obviously I had to write the song. That's interesting, but I'm thinking that was a reverse process. I wrote, I had the album title, and then I wrote the song, and then the album was named after the song, which was actually a title, So it's all backwards. I'm interested to know why you're saying, Bobby that Remington is a significant part of your family treat It's interesting,

but I think I answered the best they could. Here we go. This is this question is from Colton and says, Hey, Grangeer, how do I deal with anxiety and depression? That's all it says, one sentence, Hey Grangeer, how do I deal with anxiety and depression? And I will say this is one of the most and types of emails I get a lot of people. It's because we're human and no one is immune to this. It doesn't No amount of money makes you immune to it. There's no secret. All

humans fall into this category. You have extremely poor people that fall into this category. You have extremely wealthy people that fall into this category. You have people that are single and looking for love or friendship that fall into this category. Then you have people that are happily married with tons of friends that fall into this category. You have everybody in between. So, Caleb, how do I answer this?

For so many people? You know me well enough. Yeah, by the way, I don't just bring Caleb in here because he's some dude in the warehouse. Like you know, we've had moments. We both have had high moments together, and then me and you have had the lowest of moments. I've seen you at your lowest, and you've seen me at my lowest. I've seen you there multiple times, and you've seen me there multiple times. I've also seen you at your highest moments, and you've seen me at my highest.

So that's why you're on this podcast to help me with I'm not just I wouldn't just go to a random person and say help me answer this question. So how do you say? How do you deal with this. Well, I was just talking to someone the other day kind

of about this situation. I still deal with those two anxiety and depression, and sometimes I can say it like that, Well, there's this old saying, if you live with one foot in yesterday and one foot in tomorrow, you're pissing on today, meaning you're not really focusing on what's happening right now. And look so good. That is so good man, looking at this comment. You can take not because they could both be in different areas. But like, let's say, anxiety

and depression. Sometimes depression can be associated with your past, and anxiety is associated with your future. So that goes back to the whole living and yesterday and tomorrow and pissing on today. Is that if you were living, if you can remind yourself that I am here right now, I'm here right now sitting next to grange Er doing a podcast, that helps me kind of be more present, and then I'm not focused on what happened in the past and I'm not focused on the anxiety of the future.

So not living in your head helps me, you know, because you can get depressed about what you couldn't change about the past, and you can get anxious about the fears that you have about the future, but you're not living in today. And we talked about it once before. It could always get worse. You think it can, but it can. So trying trying to live in the moment as much as you possibly can helps you not focus on the past or the future. I'm not saying that

like I know exactly I'll do it. I'm just saying, no, that's the same. That's the same place I was going to go with this answer is because your question is how do I deal? You didn't say how do I fix it? Or how do I avoid it? You said how do I deal? And that's the correct way to ask it, because there is no fix and there is no avoiding it. So you deal with it by pulling yourself into the moment and sometimes the present moment. Say you're driving a car. Sometimes the present moment is what

are my hands doing on the steering wheel? Okay, I've got I got my hands right here, then gripping What does that steering wheel feel like? It's that fine of a moment, like what is this What does it feel like to be sitting in this seat? Like how do I feel the seat of this vehicle under me, that finite and and when my world has closed in so much that I'm overwhelmed with that kind of anxiety, then

the one thing to pull me out. If I'm not gonna if I'm not going to get spiritual in this conversation, the one thing to pull me out is to be in the moment which to straddle this. This spiritual God is always in the present. And there's many times in the Bible where God, God talks about I am before Abraham was I am. Everything about God and Christ is present. It's here and now, and it's forever. It always was and it always will be, and it always is. But

it's always present, moment present. That's when you see in Easter everyone puts their signs in their yard that says he is risen. And if you think about that for a long time, you're like, that doesn't that sentence didn't even make any sense. It wasn't it. He was risen, He has risen, he will rise, but he is risen. But that doesn't make English sense, But it's it's because

it's currently happening. He is. He is risen. And if all else fails to way to find God is now in this moment, not tonight or tomorrow or Sunday morning at church, or or regretting something you did in the past, or remembering something that was good that is no longer. It's right now and it's as present is. Like you said, we're on this podcast, I'm nowhere else in this world right now. I got all these things apparently going on, like I'm family and Christmas is coming up, and where

are we going to go visit? Are we gonna go see mom? And what's going on in Gee apparel? Right now? What work is Caleb missing that I took him out of so he could be None. None of that matters except for where we are talking in this bus to this camera. This is this is our lives and this is this is where we are. So Colton, wherever you are, stop for a minute. Breathe feel that literally the breath

in your nostrils and out of your mouth. That's where you are, and there is peace in that present moment. There is a lack of anxiety. Cannot live anxiety and depression cannot live in your current breath. I agree. And if you have one foot in yesterday and one foot and tomorrow, you're pissing on the day. I like that, such a good endagery. I love that we got time

for one more you call that. Oh yeah. This question is from Dawson and it says, Hey, Grangeera, I've been a longtime fan of yours and my girlfriend and I really like your music, especially three songs in particular when the good guys win. That's why I love Dirt Roads, and they were there. I was wondering if I could have the honor to propose to my girlfriend on stage, and if you could help me with doing that. Well, I hope she doesn't listen to this podcast. Yeah, I

might have just blown it. Maybe we don't say Dawson's last name. Yeah, we won't say that's if there's been another Dawson. Oh yeah, somewhere out there, there's a Dawson who's not going to propose, who's like, oh no, let's just let's roll with the fact that I've now read it, I've now revealed it, and hopefully your girlfriend does not listen to this podcast. And this email came on November seventeenth, so we're about we're exactly a month removed from that email.

So the answer is yes, and I want you to let's see, I'm trying to figure out how to do this without it being without tour manager Chris getting overwhelmed, but just give him his phone number. Let's just say his phone number over the podcast. But we have had many people propose on our stage. There's a time when

happens like that was popular on the radio. There was like a six month period when every single show, every day, every single show, somebody proposed to a girl, so much so that now we're starting to see the divorces coming in with those same proposals. Full circle, Yeah, full circle, bro, how is it? How's your wife? We split up? I haven't seen you since split up, since twenty seventeen or whatever. I mean, it happens like that. It happens like that. So, yeah, Dawson,

my tour manager's name is Chris Lee. You could find his Instagram is Chris Lee Country and I believe that's his Twitter also, So hit him up dmm on there and just say hey. Granger said on his podcast that I could contact you. Now. The biggest problem with this is we don't know when we're touring because of the craziness.

But I mean, if you could hang on a little bit buddy, hang on to twenty twenty one and we'll be back around your town and I would love to be able to get you on stage and propose to your girlfriend. And Caleb, do you think you'll be back for another podcast? Due? I think do you think you'll you think you'll be back? Oh oh yeah, I'll be back whenever you need. And you guys comment below if you wouldn't see more Caleb. But I did that last time. It was like overwhelming. Bring Caleb back. So I know

what it is. I know what it is. Everybody likes the train wreck. I know what it is. If you got one foot in yesterday and one foot tomorrow, you're pissing on today. The stuff like, it's like the little nuggets what you bring to the world. Boom. So let's go get to work. Let's see you guys. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all of you guys. You could help me out by rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, subscribe to this channel.

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