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What's up, guys. Welcome to the Granger Smith Podcast. Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching. I'm grateful for this platform. This is a good one. Today I got one of my good buddies, Robert Turkula Fromlunkers TV. He's back and I got him to finally be honest with me. This is this is gonna be This is gonna be fun. And those are those of you that are fans of Lunkers TV are gonna like it. Those of you that don't know who he is. He's a very interesting guy,

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and this album I've been working like crazy. It's gonna have a lot of songs on it, and I honestly feel like this is my best record I've ever done, best album I've ever done, best collection of songs I've ever put together. I'm so excited for you guys to hear it. I believe it's gonna come out in September. You know, it's always hard to guarantee a release date because things happen. But I'm on schedule right now for September,

and I just approved a bunch of these mixes. A lot of this stuff was recorded right here at the Eyege Farm, right where I'm sitting, and I'm just so proud of it. It's got a really diverse group of songs. So we've got some Earth songs, We've got some good old roller windows down country music. We have some songs that are going to make you think, I hope, a couple of songs that are gonna make you cry. At least they make my wife Amber cry. So I'm just gosh,

I'm so excited. And I'll be telling you guys more and more about this new album, and i'll be revealing the title of it. I also already took the pictures for the cover, so I'll be approving all that this week. I have to have everything turned in so that it gets to you guys on time. I have to have it all turned in, like by the end of next week,

so the race is on. It's always a little bit of a hustle at the end of an album, and I'm always a little bit worn out because it takes a lot of brain power and a lot of thinking to kind of just weed my way through a lot of the decisions that have to be made musically, and I've just but I like that I've always produced my records and I like to have that kind of controlled

creative control for better or for worse. If it comes out and it's bad, I like to know that I'm the one that made it bad, and that's my fault. I hate the thought that, well, I had these songs and someone else produced them and recorded them and I have no control over that, And if you don't like them, that's a terrible thought that I handed off what you're going to be listening to to someone else. So all

that being said, I love it. I hope you do to be watching my socials for as we start revealing and releasing a few of these songs early, which we will be doing, and it's going to be a fun fall this podcast. Robert Turkla, the man behind Lunkers TV, one of the most popular, most viewed, most subscribed to phishing channels, freshwater fishing channels on all of YouTube. He's built an empire with what he's done. He's also a

vet and he's also seen a lot. He has a lot of stories, and I've never really asked him about it. So I wanted to go a little bit deep and wanted him to get honest with me on this podcast. That's a good one. So here you go. Thank you for watching episode forty. Welcome to the Grangersmith podcast. Did chid and much times and so long line of my fool of humping down the back rangy cool watch jeation.

So by now, by now you would have been to how many of my concerts on a normal twenty twenty if this has been a normal year, your yours, you would have been to You have been on the bus with us at least a handful, at least three. I'm going like weekends up front at least at least a handful. Yeah, for sure. That's kind of a kind of sucks. Actually, as a matter of fact, I think we're supposed to be have north we I swear you're supposed to pick

me up on the way up north. We were Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what it was though, every reason June. It was in June. I'm sure everything, everything is gone. So how has this you're by the way, you're my only repeat guest on this podcast. That's good, so far good. And so the first one we did you know virtually? No, Yes, that was that was at the very beginning of all this. Yeah, the very beginning. So now since then, how has how has your work

been altered? Uh? Not much? Really, I guess I kind of stayed home for like a week and a half and then I was like, nah, we got I gotta work. So I'm never really like in the only time I'm actually with people is like maybe now. But I don't go into the store very often. I get Chick fil every morning, and I go to my land and then I come back home. I'm not around anybody. How far is your land from where you live? Not an hour?

Drop up there, do whatever I need to do, fish, shoot some guns, do something stupid, and then come back home. And so I was never really affected. Really, that's your work, that's it. That is literally it. I've told you. I tell you this all the time. But as a country singer who has a job that I always hear people that say, man, that must be awesome. One that tells you that you go out and you fish and you

shoot some stuff. That's a natural job. Yeah, it's got to be entertaining for fifteen minutes of someone's life a day. But do you wake up every morning and go, man, I love this job? Nah, you don't. I like it. Not that kind of guy. No, I like, I'm like, I'm gotta get the work done, and then I come home like all right, let's have a glass of whiskey. Or now I'm mountain on the workout phase for like the last six months, I'll literally work all day and then I come home and I work out in my

garage because it's hot as hell. You got your bench press back up to where it was I am sitting at probably around two twenty five, And no, I'll probably never get back over three hundred. Ever you were three? Was that three fifteen? Tem Yeah? Three? Shoot, I'll probably never get back up there. Maybe I will, I don't know, probably not, because I have no one to spot me. So I'm literally just doing like a lot of reps. I always do eight to ten. So what I'm interested like,

I want to get off anything we talked about last time. Yeah, you have Lunkers TV, one of the most successful fishing shows on YouTube, wildly successful with googin and all of your branding, wildly successful. You're a one percenter. You say that, but then I look at yours and this guy's this guy's killing. It doesn't matter for the guy, for everyone out there that says I want to fish on YouTube, you are a not even a one percenter. You're You're like a point zero zero zero one percenter. This is

luck of anyone. I don't it is. I don't believe there's a lot of legos timing. It's the same thing huge, which timing is huge, but there's there's a difference in timing and luck. Yeah, I timed it well, you timed it very well, worked hard for well a few years. So I guess we talked about that a lot last podcast. But what I want to talk about now is I want to kind of get deeper. And you know me, I don't prepare for these I don't take notes. That's my entire life. I actually tried to come down to

your house on Tuesday while you're in Nashville. So that's how prepared I was. That's true. Yeah, I was like, hey, you want to come do this podcast? And You're like, yeah, man, I'm going down south anyway to be with Demo and Matt Best. And I said, cool, I'm available any day but Wednesday because the day I show Wednesday. See how you have the days wrong here? I just don't. I

don't plan for anything either. So we're good. So what I want to I want to talk about, though, is like who who were you before the military, and then who are you now? And what what has that done to your personality? I was lost before the military, Okay, God, I had no idea what I want to do with my life. I mean I wasn't totally expecting that. Yeah, I was super lost. I mean, hell, I was working at a What was I doing? I was pushing carts at Walmart. That's literally what I did. I pushed cards

at Walmart. I had no not high school diplomat. I was seventeen at the time, eighteen right there. I didn't have anything. My dad had just died that same year prior, and I didn't live with my mom, and I didn't have really anywhere to go. So I was like, in this weird transient phase. So I just worked at Walmart push carts and I gambled every day on's a casino every day play black jack, so I did, So what what made you sign up? I saw guys walk out of the when I was pushing carts, I mean a

gentleman and uh we saw army guys walk out. I was like, that looks really cool. I want to go do that, and that's literally I walked over to him and they asked me what I want to do, So I wanted the office. I took some tests and I wasn't really the brightest guy in the world. Clearly I had a debatable well it depends on what you when we're talking about like booksmarts, not a chance, and that's what I took the test and they're like, so what do you want to do and I was like, I

don't know. I want to go kick indoors. And that's how I got my job. What you said I want to kick I want to be the guy that kicking doors. He's like, okay, so you want to be an infantryman. I'm like, yeah, sure do that. I don't know. Okay, then then I watched videos on YouTube on what an infantry guy was and what they did. I had no idea. So then did you shoot before? No? No, really had

you had you shot before? Maybe a shotgun or a pistol or something, but nothing like no, no, because I want when I when I had, I actually hadn't even told. I didn't tell my girlfriend at the time. I didn't tell my mom, didn't tell my grandparents. I literally went joined. I didn't even tell anybody until after I went to MEPs and signed all my paperwork and have a physical.

So I was like, oh, yeah, I joined the army now, like I think, I shipped out like July, I think, and I joined in June, shipped out two weeks later, and that's still your personality. Yeah, I do everything, by the way, I joined the army. What I did? Oh yeah, I bought I bought a sports car, I bought a ranch. Yeah that's what happens. Okay, So you go in infantry and they go here you go and you here's a rifle, and you said, oh that's cool. Yeah, oh yeah, that's

pretty much it. I remember I was sitting at my grandparents' house and they was looking at h the US Army's website, Go army dot com, I think is what it was. And they had a guy who was a infantry and then you click on it and then it would show you all the jobs you could do in the infantry and then one of them was sniper and I was like, I want to do that. I literally saw it on the computer, was like, I want to do that. That looks cool. The reason I even ask is because a

lot of snipers will say my first baby gun. I was seven years old with my dad shoot squirrels. Yeah, I shot up. I did shoot BB guns. I shot birds all the time out of the barn. But I do remember when I was a kid, I shot a bird, a barn swallow out of the sky with a BB gun. I was like, holy shit, that was you were good. You knew that you had a good Yeah. I could shoot, yeah, but I just didn't. I never was taught how to shoot far. I mean I just shot baby guns or

little lover actions or something. Nothing but nothing that you consider yourself different than any of your other friends at your shooting. No scare it off, like different than like Nick Irving, Who's like, yeah, I knew it seven years old. I had a really good Yeah. I knew when I got in the army that shooting was really easy. And then once I came back from my rack, I was like, I want to try. I want to I kept I

have that even to this day. I still had that same issue where I always want to do something more than what I probably should do. And when I came back, I was like, well, I want to try out and be a sniper. And then when I came back from that and I got kind of plateaued where they're I could go only as far as I could. I came back from Afghanistan, I was like, well, now I want to try for Special Forces, and now I want to do this. And that's kind of what I kept even

in life. It's you came back from your first hour, Yeah, it's like we're not you were just infantry. Then you said I want to be a sniper. Yeah. Then went the sniper trials and then I got selected for that, and then they have a six month waiting period for you to test and see if you're actually gonna be good enough. Because it's so expensive to send one person to school, like it's exceptionally expensive, like really expensive for the to train one person to be a snipers so

expensive for the army. They literally send you when you get selected for sniper section, you have like a six month trial period where they test, they test you and they literally put you through school multiple times just to see if you can pass at this level, and then they send you off to school. Yeah. So, but then if you can't even pass it on on the first try, then they kick you back down to the line unit and they'd find somebody else. You're metal bracelets that are

clinking around. Yeah all this When did that start? Was that both one's Iraq and one Afghanistan? Where was that in relation to your story of when you came back? These ones are both these both these guys are from Afghanistan. This guy ended up dying in Iraq fighting Isis four years later. This guy was killed when I was there. So that's when you were a sniper Afghanistan. Yeah, So did you see much action the first tour? Not really, I mean we saw it was totally different kind of war.

It was so like they just fought differently. They didn't fight the same Afghanistan they fought and they would stay at the stand in the ground Iraq. They would like come out of a side street or some shit and throw something at you and shoot at you real quick and then run away. It was too many different So you came home and you're like, I want more action. Yes, basically I want to what's the next level up? How could I level up? Because I don't want to go

back and be bored? Essentially, why didn't even think that. I wasn't even expecting to go to Afghanistan in the first place. I was on my way out. I came and I tried out for snipers. I was a sniper for about a yearish and I was on my way out, and I was actually going to go try out for the Chicago Cubs farm team because I had a connection up there. I was going to go try out for the Triple A team, and I had a week later, I had got orders too for Afghanistan, and I had

to make a choice. Do I want to go to Afghanistan with the guys I've been training with over the last year as a sniper, or do I just want to get out of the Army cause and be done. I literally would have just been done. I didn't wouldn't have even won on the deployment. So I decided well, screw it, I'll go ahead and sign up. And that's what I did. I re upped to go to Afghanistan, and all read yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, my life would become way different if I didn't. But now I

literally signed up just for one tour. I signed up for an additional eighteen months just to make the contracts. So basically I would have got out in Afghanistan, so I extended I think it was twelve months actually, so I would have enough time when I got back to get out. But then when I was over there, I loved it so much. I re upped again because I was like, I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna make Special Forces and then we're gonna make it a career.

Because you were borderline board again, I was bored again. Yeah, because there's only so high you can get in the regular army, Like you can only do so much stuff, Like I had all the schooling I could possibly get. I had airborne, air assault and sniper school and all my infantry shit. There was literally nowhere else for me to go. I'd already maxed out, so I had to do something else. And so when's the first time you killed somebody there's time which tour was that it was

afghan I said, I didn't kill anybody in Iraq? Did that change you? Uh? Not really not? Then it was kind of enjoyable. It might sound. You have videos on YouTube. I used to have over that day. I had all the videos because it was all filmed that that entire day was actually filmed on a helmet camp. And I got drunk one night and deleted all everything. I had the video of me killing somebody. Well, actually, sometimes being

drunk brings out the truth. I didn't want those So so something in your conscience knew that this is gonna this is gonna hurt you. I could actually go back and physically relive that day. You don't need a video, No, I didn't. Don't mean like I literally could watch it. I can see it to my head. But I'm saying if I could go out there and watch it on TV screen, then I can really literally I didn't want to have to continue to relive that over and over. So what did that do to the dude that was

pushing cards at Walmart? What did that kind of power change? That's a good question to make you you are today? Damn, that is a good question. What did it do to me? And I don't know. I can tell you this. I don't know. That's a good question. You stopped, you stopped doing those kind of videos on YouTube, which one reason military ones talking about. Yeah, I don't talk about on

YouTube like that, but you used to. Yeah, and you get a lot of views, so you would if it was about the views, you would continue to There's only and there's only so many things I would like to tell as well, because there's there's also my audience. I understand, there's a lot of kids, and there's like certain stories that you just never want to say out loud because some people they can't. There's some shit should probably never

be said. I guess I like that, like seeing like women having to pull glass out of their face because the bomb dropped too close on their stuff and blew all the windows out and now their face is covered. That wasn't our fault. Yeah, that kind of like I don't tell those kind of stories. You're not haunted by it? No, Well, sometimes and I have I think when you answer really fast, I feel like you're like I might be, but I just gotta let it. I just have no no, no,

no, no no no I'm fine. No, it's just I have my time. You're right, I have to butt twice a year. I go down. I'll go for about two weeks where it's just fucking excuse my language, it's really rough, like real rough, for about two weeks, and then I'll be fine. What's the trigger? I don't know. That's what I'm trying to actually take note of. Actually had I actually had a little deal happened about a month ago where I

was for about two weeks straight. I was bad. I would I was not a good spot, but it was something had triggered it. And then it like snowballed, like kept going and going and going and going. I don't know, is it the is it stuff you did or stuff you saw that's worse? And when it's the two weeks, oh it it actually it's it's not something hey, you

could tell. I know. I'm thinking how to so when I'm talking about a trigger, like it could be something as stupid as a smell that will actually bring up a scenario that would happen, because I remember this one time I smelled chicken nuggets or chicken strips and it like kicked ticked over to something and then that turned into something else, and then that turned into something else and then just went just fucking like domino effect the entire way you have you talked to people about it,

Oh yeah, is the army pay for stuff for you to go? And well they would, but I've already I once saw a lady and flour and the whole thing is so when you when you talk about people with PTSD or PTS, whichever you would like to call it, it's it has to deal with it's. It's because we lived at such that was fine after Iraq, but I lived in Afghanistan. It's such a high tempo like lifestyle for nine months straight. I am talking the highest tempoed lifestyle.

You could imagine writing a roller coaster for nine months straight, twelve hours a day. Yeah, that was it because and your your brain lives at that high tempo and you're always trying to get back to that level, but you'll never be able to get to that high or again. So it leaves you. What the lady explained to me is with a chemical imbalance inside of your head that makes it to where certain scenarios and situations may end up triggering like I want to, I don't want to

call an episode, but that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. But just leaves you with a chemical and balance where you're trying to actually get back to that that level, Like I feel the most comfortable when I'm in the worst stressful situation in my life, like if I'm about to kill an elk, I'm in like the So that explains a lot of what you do in YouTube. Yeah, you chase. You chase the bigger fish,

you chase the most exotic animals. Yeah. I would Actually this may sound stupid, but I would like to jump out of an airplane without a parachute and have somebody grab me. Tell me more about this. You mean another dude jumps out after the parachute after you and catches you. Yeah, I would do that. That would get chasing that Yeah, that adrenaline. Yeah, I probab wouldn't do it till after every was eighteen, But yes, I do that in a heartbeat. I know there's a lot of people. Yeah, you can

do pay to do that. Could a civilian do that? Yeah, I watched Logan Paul did it. You can do it your life, and that would be a really high viewed episode. I probably wouldn't even film it at that point. If every's eighteen, if I'm still doing YouTube, I've made it the longest I've ever seen on YouTube. I mean, it's another if people died from that, I'm sure I don't know. Well, what's your level? What's your level with PTSD to but nine? I mean I'm ready at one hundred percent because of it.

But I had to literally go to Florida and have a conversation with the lady for like three hours, and she had to hear all the stories from starting to finish. And then that's when she gave me this thing telling me what is wrong with me? And then she's like, yeah, you're not gonna be able to maintain a relationship for a very long time. You'll never be able to hold a job, You'll never be able to work for somebody. I was like, oh fuck, thank god for YouTube. Yeah,

so what's the guy with a ten? Have no idea? I just said, you know, I know a lot of guys that are probably worse off than me. I just have my weeks in my months. I mean, you got people like it's all it's all person base. You got to realize there's some people I knew a check that claimed it because she had gotten an a vehicle wreck in the military. Like people, I think it's all in the person. Yeah, there's so many people that could like

some of the stuff we did. There's like people eating like people kimitt suicide every day just because of the shit that we did and they can't actually handle it mentally. Yeah, like it happens every day, like today, someone's probably there's already been thirty people that killed themselves because of it. You ever talked to vets, Yeah, yeah, got so. Yeah, it's got to be a hard fine line for a couple of reasons. One because they bring up stuff you

don't really want to deal with. I've gotten pretty good at it now, but three years ago, four years ago, I couldn't talk to it about it as much. The other level is with you. You have a celebrity status about you. Yeah, so you're gonna get people that just want to talk to you and you don't know the difference. Well, I can, I can we do the bullshit when it comes to military guys like instantly, like like instantly, it takes like thirty seconds. And if I know you're real

or not, what's the test? They tell me what they did in the military. They tell me what their job was and when they were in and where they went. That's it. That's all you need to know. And you can know instantly that person is lying or not or if they have some made up bullshit. That's it. Like if you told me you were in Kandahar in eight and you were a marine, okay, then I said, okay, what'd you do and You're like, oh, well I was a cook And I'm like, okay, you were in the

bad spot. You may have done something, but probably sat on a base. Yeah, that's that was that easy. Have you ever had anybody come and say, man, I need to talk. I'm not doing good. I need you to help me. Uh no, not really, I get it. Yes, not person like personal person. I've had people send me emails and then I've had people multiple times come up crying to me, like in public and saying that we

saved their life. They were on the last version want to kill themselves, and they're like, oh, your videos saved me, And I was like, fuck, I didn't mean to, but I'm glad I could help. That's happened way more than you probably realize it, but it probably makes it in some way. It makes those videos worth it. Oh yeah, the ones that I posted years ago were mainly just for people can understand that. It's it's okay, like there's a bunch of us out here that are all messed

up in the head. Like You're not the only guy or gal, there's a whole bunch. Look, I got almost one point seven million people follow me, and I'm jacked up in the head. Matt Best has got what one point three He's pretty jacked up. Du Koda Meyer jacked up in the head, Krispy jacked up in the head. We got lots of followers, the more people still, but we are jacked up in the head at times. Yeah, I can attest you are, but mostly in a good way. Yeah, because you're just a fun guy to hang out with.

I'll take that. You're also you're a smiler, like you will smile through a tough situation. I appreciate that. I have been known I can get pretty mad. I guess too, but I like to smile. If you're not smiling, you need to look at you, look at you're just holding the smile too. I've seen what I'm sitting out there. You guys don't see the behind the scenes of Granger.

I just listened to the thirty forty five minute conversation about the most depressing shit in the world, and he's just sitting over there, just kind of just staring off in the ceiling, and fuck, at the very end, you finally said something. And then the other thing is people don't realize when I'm watching you back over here and you guys are making this music, I'm like, I don't hear anything different. And then you guys are going back

and forth over this thirteen second piece. It's literally thirteen seconds of a song. You ask you just so you're gonna you kind of set it up where we have to kind of say what we were talking about. That was the most depressing thing ever. I'm sorry, say that's fine. It's yeah. We were discussing we have three tour dates coming up in July and so we have to leave, and so we started talking about how we're gonna carry

ourselves in this new depressing COVID world. Yeah it is depressing, and how we're gonna how we're gonna represent ourselves as a crew, and how we're gonna treat mask and social distancing and all that and then we had to get into like, well what if somebody in the crew gets it? So then we decided, well then we're gonna have to do We're all gonna have to test before we leave every time. And then you then you were talking about because the thing is is like even I don't have

to worry about as much as you. You say, I'm quote unquote famous, but I'm just a guy on YouTube. You literally have to deal with like newspapers and ship showing up to your place and be like, I knew this is a bad idea, Like you know what I mean. And that's why I don't have that problem. That's why I have to look that person in the newspaper. I have to look them in the eye tomorrow, uh, you know,

from when we're recording this podcast. We're playing fourth of July tomorrow, and I have to look them in the eye at Austin Statesman and say probably with my mask on, and say that I feel like we're gonna follow the rules, and everyone here is gonna follow the rules. And we're doing this because we're all trying to get back a sense of normalcy. And I feel like music. I feel like music can save lives. Music is the best thing ever, and you love music just like you said. People have

said your video saved my life. Well, in a lot of ways, musicians have heard that when people say, you know, I was at the end of my rope. I thought this was the end for me. I went to this concert and I thought I could I keep going. I

could see that one hundred percent. The music is one of the most relatable things in like human history, other than like race and whatever you want to go there, but it's literally the most relatable thing ever because you can listen to a song and you're like, shit, that's me, like my like I always say this, My favorite song is Granger's Good Guy when when the good Guys win, And that is the best song ever. And I don't even know if you still play in your shows, Yeah

you do that still in the whole rotation. You guys should also see. I wish they would film more. I was telling them in this and I wish you would film more. The he films behind the scenes quote unquote, but he doesn't film like the real behind the scenes, like the real behind the scenes, because I just think people would think it's bored. No, it's cool, it's amazing, because the thing is, there's so many people in this

world with your talent and skill set. Just like you say the same thing about me, it's the same exact thing about you. Like I couldn't go in there, and I don't even know what is that box right there? What does that thing do? I have? No's the microphones are plugged into that and it's recording, are okay? Well okay, okay, Well I didn't Then that goes into the computer, which

is recording. Yeah, but then you got all these things back there, Like, he's got a lot of stuff that he doesn't show you guys, and I think he I'm gonna try to harp on him this whole week. You need to show more, stuffed more. Well, I started a lot of my YouTube because you told me to do that, So yes, I should. I should listen. It's it's new. I I would watch it. I would have no idea what it was, Just like, I think you need to grow a mullet. Man, By the way, your hair looks awesome.

It's getting there. It looks like it's getting there. It looks like a futuristic warrior. That's what I had. Some face paint, you know how I kind of looked like, actually, now that you say that, that guy off of Peter Pan, Yeah, Rufio, Yeah off damn hook hook Peter, No, that was Peter Pan, but hooked. Yeah damn. I do look like, yeah, you're like a blade runner. I'll take a character. Yeah, I know it's gonna get a little longer though I need. It's gonna let it go. I keep just shaving this part.

We're actually gonna cut something in the side of my head for tomorrow. So you shaved the whole thing I did for YouTube, not what I didn't. Yeah, well I needed a haircut and it was at the very beginning COVID so firm shaved it all and then I wanted to go. I was like, I went into the shop and I was like, hey, I want a mullet. The lady goes, you don't have enough hair, and I said, yeah, I guess we'll just give it a shot. And so

it is kind of strange, honestly, Kevin. It doesn't feel very long here, but it's like nasty right here, like that's gross. It's pretty awesome, man, It's a futuristic ward. You're gonna you're gonna join us on these live streams. Yes today, Yes, which is so Yes, I actually enjoy those, okay, And I think people that people people need to I

think the tipping things is the best thing. That's another thing that those guys were talking about out there is people don't realize that the guys are actually they really aren't doing that great. And I think people need to realize they they really aren't. I just talked to Justin Moore when I did a podcast with him. He's a really big country singer. We're on with his tour managers. Tour manager is working at a lumber store in really Alabama.

Right now. That's just the life that we're living right now, because you guys have no way to make money. You're you literally pike money from touring, but you get tour people think we sell songs and that's just not that's not a thing anymore. It used to be used to be. But now back in Garth Brooks days, and everyone streams it for pennies and doesn't just doesn't even matter. So well, we're gonna go to these live streams. You're gonna join us, Yes,

and we'll be thanks for being first repeat guest. Yes, I love doing these things. It's enjoyable. And then and then we'll know what people actually want to hear me ask you. We got kind of deep today, Well you asked me. Yeah, it's good. I'll answer anything you want to, smiled all the way through. I'm proud of you. A good see brother, m h yeah

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