Sebastian Maniscalco (Live)

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Thank you. We practiced that transition many times, but we didn't get it right. Um, okay, so uh, you know, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited to be doing this live um with a band. Um and uh thrilled to be here in the Grammarcy Theater. And like I said, thank you to Walmart and everybody who sponsored this. And we're very excited to introduce our guest today. We have Sebastian Manascolko. Sebastian is One of my favorite comedians. I find him to be deeply funny, deeply physical.

He's... Seems super nice even though I don't really know him. And we talked a little bit backstage, but then I said, s let's stop talking. If the cameras aren't rolling, then this ain't worth shit, is what I said. Um So we're gonna have Sebastian on, but we always like to start these podcasts by talking to somebody who knows our guest

So we can talk well behind their back. It's a little different'cause Sebastian will hear everything now, but um But um so uh uh we are very excited to introduce a friend of Sebastian's, a fellow stand-up performer, um, who also is the co-host of the Pete and Sebastian podcast, which has been running now for twelve years and is an amazing Podcast. Give it up everybody for Pete Coriale. Pete

Pete, we gotta play on. This is phenomenal. We've been doing it 12 years. We've never had a setup this good. I know. Well... You're very you're already so good at I can tell you're you're a good performer'cause as soon as you came in you were like, Here we go, everybody Amy, I've been a uh performer for 30 years. Sitting here with you is one of the most exciting things I've got to do in my career. I'm not kidding. I appreciate that. I am not

Amy's a little nervous backstage. She's never done a live cast before. I go, You're the best host of the Golden Globes that ever lived. This is a hiccup. Are you kidding me? Come on. Pete, if the people in the audience aren't famous, then I don't know. I don't know what to do. It's weird.

That's hilarious. Okay. So Pete, how did you and Sebastian first meet? We met doing stand-up. Um we met uh literally about fourteen years ago in Canada. Uh Montreal Festival put together this thing where we all stayed in Toronto in a hotel and every night we would meet in a van. It was me, Sebastian, and like four of the comics from other countries, a guy from Australia, I remember a guy from uh you know um Ireland. But then we would shoot out to little theaters each night.

And the first night I met him the first time I met him, we were online uh to go through customs into Canada and he introduced himself. I never met him before. Then when we get to the hotel, I say, see you later tonight, we got a first show that night. And when we all get in the van and Sebastian's the last one to get in the van and I'm in the back of the van. And he gets in the van and he's got his shirt. On a hanger.

And I'm in the back of the van. Nobody knows anyone, so we're all quiet and I go, Oh what is that? Your performance shirt? And he goes, Yeah, I get sweaty. I go, holy shit guy. What so I'm making fun of him because he gets sweaty. Meanwhile it's because he's physical and then he goes on. To make ten million gazillion.

And I'm standing straight as a boy leaning against a goddamn brick wall. Yeah, you gotta have a per you gotta have a performer shirt. You gotta have a shirt. No, but that's where we first met. Dress for the job you want, Pete. Dress for the job you want. Exactly. But we hit it off, uh and you know, like you said, we've been doing it Twelve years. Yeah. And I bet it's similar to you and Tina in that like

It there's just sometimes you you know, we get together through the cast and maybe you're not in the mood. So you call it the cast. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Even though we don't have quite as many viewers as you do, ours is still a cast. There's a zillion podcast. I don't pay attention to the numbers, Pete. I just do it for the fun. No, but it but you guys are so funny on it together and and I love and I love watching you two and I mean you guys know each other really well. And and and

Can I just ask you, like you've done it now for twelve years. This is my first year doing a podcast. How do you keep it fresh? Well for us it's because we just talk about our lives. When we first started to do it. Neither one of us knew much about cast, and I said we both kinda agreed. Let's keep it consistent. That was number one.

Uh number two, do you want guests? And he goes, Well, I'm not really getting them and I go, I'm not I'm not getting them either. So if we want to keep it consistent we figure no no guests and then we don't do anything topical. Like you could listen to any one of our casts and you wouldn't know what year it's from.

'Cause it's about you know it's about from anything from going to someone's house and they make you take your shoes off to so it never there's always something new. Yeah, you want to be able to catch up. Right. I I unfortunately hold the newspaper up to the camera on every one of my Well that's why yours is also more popular. Okay, now you're a basketball player in college? Oh well Division three, Amy, so let's pump the brakes on that. What c what college?

I just said division three. Once someone says division three, you don't care what you mentioned? You never mention the college? No, Fredonia State is the college. Okay. And what was the name of your team? Um What were the Fredonia what? We were called the Fredonia Blue Devils. Interesting. I was r uh my high school it was the Red Devils. Really? Yeah. I want to ask you an opinion about something before you bring that up.

Where I live now, I live in a small town. I'm actually in the presses of moving to Rochester, but I live in a small town called Fredonia. Okay. By the time this comes out, I'll be gone. I already bought a new house. But I've been there twelve years. My daughter is twelve years old and their l our slogan, our high school logo is the hillbilly. Oh that's not gonna last. It's been there for like uh

Fifty years. It's a guy with a beard and a jug of wine and a gun. I swear to God. And they don't get rid of it because it's too expensive. They'll have to change the basketball court and the uniforms. So we're just the hillbillies. That'll that'll get you in the Harvard, by the way.

We gotta get into that. Yeah, we gotta get into Harvard. It's important. What you got we gotta get into Harvard or we gotta get talk about Harvard? When you wanna talk about things with Sebastian. Talk about Harvard? Sebastian didn't go to Harvard. I know that. No But when we went when we played Boston, yeah. When Sebastian played the Boston Garden, I was open for one tour. Incredible. We went to Harvard.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I'll talk to him about that. Amy and Tina talked about it. I think you can a bunch of aggressive nerds shouting jokes at you. But I mean A bunch of valedictorians. But you take it because it's Hobbit, right? If it was Jamestown Community College, you'd have been out of there in ten minutes, right? Because it's Hobbit, you just take the punches.

Okay, so let's start this. Um I'm gonna start this podcast with Sebastian, but I need to know, um, Pete, do you have a question you think I should ask? One question I think is Sebastian loves to entertain. Mm. However, he also loves for people to leave when he's done entertaining. Yes. It's a very bizarre thing. It's like I love to entertain and now go home. Yeah. And you know, you might want to ask him, um, what is it about

You know, why is there an end to when people come over? Why does that bother you so much? And the other thing, Amy, I love this guy so much for so many different reasons. He's a warm hearted guy, good guy, but uh one big hang up he has is noises. It's called He self-diagnosed. Missophenium.

How do you think that's a good thing? Self-diagnosed, he's never done anything about it. But like, you know, you could chew gum around them and then like a half hour later he'll tell me I gotta stop at the gum. So but I he has not gone and done anything about it. He always just likes to say self-diagnosed. So perhaps you might want to ask him why don't you take it any further and find out I think it's because his comedy lives in irritation. Yes.

Yes. Yes, I know what you mean. I these are great questions'cause I know I know a little bit about misophonia and I have a really hard time with mouth sounds in general. Like on the microphone, I'm looking at you, NPR. A lot of people have to drink water. It's very stressful. So I'm gonna talk to Sebastian about that. Yeah. Very, very good.

Okay, well we're gonna get started. Pete, you've been amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you, Amy. Thank you all. Have a wonderful time. Everybody check out the Pete Sebastian show. Thank you. This episode is brought to you by Walmart. If you're waiting to treat yourself, don't. Walmart Black Friday deals is coming, and now's the time to snag the items you've been eyeing for less.

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Oh, se bem. I want to tell you that I had a different shirt on and I changed when I saw what you were wearing. They they told me backstage. I had a t-shirt. I was like I wanted to be like, hey, who cares? You know, like we're all just I just walked off the street.

And then I said, you know what, you're a professional, Amy, and you need to treat this show like Well, this is the first live show, so I'm like, all right, this is like a big deal, let me dress it up. I have another outfit just in case, but I felt like this This was appropriate to wear a suit. Apparently, you thought you were gonna go to a t-ball game. Well, I would much rather be underdressed than overdressed.

But I I bet you'd m rather be overdressed. Yeah, I am typically overdressed for occasions. I I don't know. I always growing up my mother always used to tell me we're going to church So I always thought when we were leaving the house you should look presentable. Yeah. But nowadays if you take around, particularly in this

It's you roll out of bed and then you're at the at the Walgreens. So I don't know. I just feel like you should. You're trying to tell me that you don't wear sweatpants and bring your own pillow on the plane. That's what I'm hearing. No, I don't. I've never understood the whole pillow. I like that pillow thing. That's a no offense, Gen Z, but there's a lot of you guys are dragging around a lot of pillows. It's intense.

Okay, we have a lot to talk about, Sebastian, because you and I were both in Chicago. You grew up in Chicago. Where exactly did you grow up? I grew up in the northwest suburbs of Arlington Heights. Illinois. So I wasn't in the city of Chicago. Right. And then you were you how w how what years were you there? So uh I was there nineteen seventy three to nineteen ninety Okay. Yeah, I was there the same time. Okay. I mean, just for a few years.

So when were you there? What well I w I went to uh I did Second City. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, and um and like you know, a lot of people wanted to take class there and move to Chicago. And I rem like I just the weather the weather in Chicago is the thing you remember because it just it's punishing. Yes. When is when is the coldest you've ever been in Chicago?

The coldest temperature? God. Um I don't know, there's always like a wind chill. So I don't know, minus I think it was like minus fifteen uh one year. So yeah, what do you why? Do you have a do you have a record?

No, I was just curious, like Chic people that live in that area, it you're doing this ch you're proving my point, which is they don't really talk about the weather that m they don't care that much about the weather. They don't make it a big deal. Yeah, it's not a big deal. When you're living in it. Yeah. It's just like the way of life. So we're not like t you know, we're not sitting there going, Oh

Really cold today, how record? I don't know. We just it just it's it's brutal. And do you remember um a restaurant in Chicago in the Chicago area? Did you go did you like to go into the city? Did you go into the city a lot? So we went into the city uh early on in my teenage years, seventeen years old, I had a fake idea. We'd love to dance. We used to go to this place called Acapulco Bar. Uh

There was a lot of good clubs in Chicago at that time. Really it was a good club scene. Did you ever go to Baja Beach Club? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, you were Yeah, maybe I saw you were gonna Did you ever go to a restaurant called Carlucci's? I have, yeah. Okay. I used to be a waiter there. Oh really? Yeah. And it was I I was I was thinking about our our prep for today and for people that don't know, Sebastian's um dad was a Sicilian immigrant, is a Sicilian immigrant. And um

Carlucci's was the first time I learned about Italian fine dining in any way, like I didn't know anything about it. Antipasti and semifredo and Breadsticks. Those kinds of things. That's a course. But were you waiting tables when you were living there? Were you working in a restaurant there or b uh only after you came to LA?

Funny you say fine dining. I started my waiting career at Olive Garden. Oh yeah. Great place to start. Great great place to break in. And uh hey, did you ever go to a place in Schamburg called the Living Room? Oh yes. I worked there. That was a sh that was a very hot club, like bar. I'm surprised we didn't cross paths. Who what kind of famous people came through the living room? Not really, not a lot of fame walking through.

But I remember it being kind of a cool club. It was a cool club. I it just not a lot of celebrities came through there. Maybe Dennis Rodman, because this is the the year's where the bulls were hot. Um but yeah, um So I worked there. lip balm. I are you kidding me? No, so no, are you joking? I have to tell you because this is a sponsor. Oh it is? Dillanege. And they're not sponsoring this, so we'll probably have to cut this out. But I I use that

all the time. It's the best. Okay. You like your products. Uh well it's my wife likes products. And well You gotta put this on. Ancora bello. She put it on. Hello. New lips. Incredible. In fact, th you're reminding me, everybody who has lip balm, let's take a lip balm break while we just for a second. Because it's too much, right? It's so dry out.

That's too much. Okay. So y but you worked you you've done you've talked a lot on stage about how people should act in restaurants and I really relate because as an ex-server, as we like to call ourselves.

Um you learn how to treat people in restaurants. You have strong opinions about how people should act in restaurants. Yeah, I mean if you go to a restaurant you should have some, you know, manners and, you know, be kind and not like um I don't know, I I I put a napkin on my lap. I don't know if that's out of style or if anybody's doing that anymore, but you know, just You know, you should be polite to the server and vice versa. But I I got a problem with servers nowadays.

Tell me why. Just the way they come up. They come up, you know, and you're like, uh, excuse me, can you think I and already the eyes are rolling. You know, it's like nobody wants to be there. I don't know. It just seems like people are detached or disconnected. Do you like when a server Um this happens a lot in LA where you live. Um where we both live. Uh where someone'll

duck down and get the same level as you I don't like that. You know what I'm talking about? Like they're right here. Yeah they get right there. They get in real close I don't like that. I don't like that move. I'd just rather have them above, in and out, maybe a little talk here and there, but nothing like, you know, I don't wanna know like sometimes the waiter will go, Oh, you know, I I I don't normally have that because I'm lactose and

Please I need to know your your your medical history. Just bring out the burger. Okay. And you talked also about which I loved and um I should I should point out, like, you know, uh as as as well as you being the The most successful touring year of your career, would you say, this year? Yeah, probably. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

And you've got a new special coming out in November and you you made a b a beautiful film about your dad with Robert De Niro playing your dad. Yeah, crazy. Well, crazy. Um and you're on the show Bookie and you've got all these things going on. When you talk to your audience I still feel, Sebastian, like you're living a regular, normal life. Yeah.

They feel like they're like talking about their koi pond or something. Like that's their but it does feel like you are still in it. You have little kids. Yes. And you one could argue you're a little old for that. You got little kids. I do. I'm fifty two and I have a six year old son, so that's a Não tem mais. No, I'm only kidding because I love you on Instagram when you talk about how tired you are. I'm exhausted. And you're it's exhausting now. No, I I I waited a little you know, I waited.

I'm just come on. No clafter, no clafter. Um but your wife seems amazing, Lana. And you talk about her a lot and she's I've seen her on the gram. She's a hot piece. She's ten years younger. Uh yeah, so I'm trying to keep up with her and she's an ex-gymnist, so she's always doing flips and she's you know She's always doing flips. She she walks down the stairs on her hands. No way.

I'm dealing with so uh does she do that when she's angry, when she's upset? No, she's n she's never rarely upset. She's one of these like s always got a smile on her face, walking around. I'm the one that's constantly upset. Yeah. Uh but no, she's a ray of sunshine and uh she's a doll and and uh yeah she's very athletic, very strong and uh I am um almost has I almost have my ARP card. And the same we're the same age. We're the same age. Yeah, we're good.

So I'm glad I had kids this late in life just because, you know, I'm you know, I'm stable, I I have a and could provide them with uh you know a life. that uh not I'm not one of these guys, oh I wanna give my kids a life that I never had. I had a good

you know, middle class upbringing and whatnot. But as a entertainer or performer, you want to get to a place where you're stable financially before you start bringing people into the world. And, you know, it's you know, this just business, you know, it could be here one day, go on the next. So

You know, I got to a place where I'm like, all right, uh let's start a family and and I I like being in my fifties. Um I just wish I was a little bit more I don't know, I feel like I I I want to go play basketball the other day. I'm like how you know, I don't play And I'm like, I don't remember the rim being this high. So um

But it's nice. That's a ACL nightmare though. Be very careful. There's nothing worse than a bunch of guys in their fifties going back to play basketball. It is just tear after tear. I'm taking a little offense. to this. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just because you just i i if you didn't know how old I was, could you just wouldn't you look at me and go, Yeah, no, he probably he probably runs You're in terrific shape by the way.

I'm really not. I'm I'm hiding a lot with the suit, but I just don't feel like I'm too. Well I get it, but I have to say I remember having younger kids my kids are teenagers now and the and the amount of play they have to do with kids is exhausting. It's exhausting. Yes it is. Play is a nightmare. And when your kid the the worst things to hear in the world is, Daddy, can we play?

Did you have a favorite play? Did you have like a f oh this is I could I can I remember having existential moments of true despair when I would come home from like shooting a long day. And my kids would come up to me with um with uh Star Wars lightsabers and be like, Yay, now we can play. And I was just like, go, oh fuck, like oh no, I had to play Star Wars. Just like it was It was the worst. And I and I miss every second of it.

But Lana, did she come to your shows? Yeah, I mean she comes but I mean it's Is she here tonight? No, no, no. She she's playing with the kids. Yeah. You've played huge stadiums. You sold out um was it Madison Square Garden? Like a Like how many nights in a row? Five, six? Incredible. And yes. Thank you. And what's it like playing a space that big?

I my act is kinda tailor made for a large space. Obviously comedy is better enjoyed in a in a room like this, I believe. But once once you start getting into arenas and whatnot, you know, I like to fill the room. I like to get up there and be physical and And kind of prowl the stage. I'm not one of these guys that stands behind a microphone and tells jokes. Nothing wrong with that. But for me, especially nowadays, you know, you gotta light yourself on fire up there for being.

pay attention. That's so true. You know, if they just if you're not funny for you know an hour and fifteen minutes, you could lose a uh you know someone could just go back into their phone or slip out of consciousness or what have you. But uh I like to keep

people entertain not only by telling the the the story, but also maybe acting out the story. It's not all physical, but you know You're such a funny physical performer. You're so I love watching you and you and I read something that was really cool is you designed your stage a certain way in your last special. Can you talk about that? I could hit the points a little bit more. W when you're doing a round stage, you kinda don't know where you're at sometimes in relation to like

Have I been here for a while? You know. But with the points you kinda like know, okay, you know, I'm at this point, I'm at that point, I feel like I could service the room better just by using the triangle stage. You know, I made the the uh the screen above me trying. I like production too when I do stand ups, so I like to like pay attention to

Lighting is big. How is this lighting? I think this is beautifully done. Do you like the people over we get people kind of on the side? I do, I noticed that. I don't mind that. It it's a little disconcerting because you guys are the same height as us. Yeah. So it's it looks like they're on a ride. And then we got people in the back that are all oh we can't see you but we know that you're the real fans back there.

All right. It goes deep. It goes deep. It does go deep. By the way, and I don't know if you know this, a little trivia here, and I don't know if anybody in the audience knows. We did a movie together. Okay. We did a movie together and you know when it came out, you know what it what the percentage of it was on Rotten Tomatoes? No, I didn't check the percentage. Was it bad? It's seven percent. Bad. That's right. That was the first time I met you.

Um, in two thousand and fourteen there was a movie called The House with uh just a a young and up and coming guy named Will Farrell, you know? And I picked the one fucking bomb that he made. I was like, sign me up for that one. No, him and I were in a movie that was so fun to make'cause he's the best, called The House. And there was a scene where Yeah, I was uh by the way, I I shouldn't say we were in a movie together. She was in the movie and I came in for a day.

So I think we made the house like a like it was like uh Vegas. And I was the one of the performers in the living room performing to one I think it was Rory Scovile. Yes. That's right, Rory. Yeah, it was just a day of work and uh That uh was early on. It was like one of my first movies I've ever done. Yeah. Yeah. Would you what was your memory of it? Did you have it was it a good experience or do you think it was a day. I came in, I never met you or Will or any of those

people. So um it was nice. Yeah. That was a lot of fun. I mean I I I I feel like uh like I I I remember that time and also uh it you have been you had been performing for a while. Like you're not an overnight Success. You've been putting the time in for a very, very long time and you've been working very very hard. What is it in the same way we talk about

fatherhood at in an age where you feel like you were ready and mature for it, do you feel that same way about your fame and success? Same. Yeah, nineteen ninety eight I started doing stand ups so for me you know, I worked at the four seasons for seven years, getting my feet wet with stand up comedy and it I didn't have a movie or a T V show or anything that really propelled me into the mainstream. I I feel even now too, you know, I have a great fan base and what have you, but

Um, I still like feel like there's room for growth. Uh but it didn't it took a while. I mean, uh what what is this, two thousand uh about two thousand fifteen? Shortly after we hit the the house, seven percent. Uh I gotta say I just looked it up before and it's up to twenty percent. Oh okay. We're moving up. We're moving up. So with inflation and everything Yeah. Um but no, it's it's a slow burn for me. Nothing nothing nothing comes easy in my life.

Wha why why doesn't things what do you mean? It's just, you know, uh my father and I often discuss this like the Manasconkel family always has to take the long road to get there, right? There's no shortcut. Which I'm not looking for shortcuts, but You know, every once in a while it'll be nice to, you know, get a pop. Uh What how does your dad feel like he's taking the long road? How would he say he's taking it? I mean he

He immigrated here when he was fifteen years old and you know, he had to learn a new language. He's still learning the language. Um it's fun hanging around with like an immigrant father who just doesn't know like The words. Uh Is there a word still that you that really makes you giggle that he He oh, he goes, Oh, you know your cousin he's going to uh only miss.

Ole Miss then, not olymiss. So there's a lot of that. That one feels okay. No, that's what? Yeah, that feels okay. That's like the hillbillies or something. Um But he but he he is an amazing story and and he and you wrote a film based on on his story and and can you tell everybody how I mean, I'm sure you've answered this question before, but it's pretty awesome to work with Robert De Niro, I imagine.

I was very nervous. Uh basically wrote a movie. Never thought it would get you know, you write these things, you never think they're gonna do anything. But this one got picked up uh into De Niro's hands. He loved it. Wanted to read it out loud here in New York City with a bunch of actors so we read it read it out loud at a table and after the table read I went up to him I and I said uh so and he's like um

And he left. So I'm like, all right, well, it's the end of that. And uh two weeks later got a call that he's interested in, you know, playing your father and I'm like, I you know, this is a guy that I you know, good fellows, good casino posters on my wall and now he's gonna play my dad in a movie and then subsequently called my father

Down to Oklahoma where he was shooting the movie because he wanted to get to know my dad. No way. So you're like, Dad, he wants to hang out with you? And my dad's like, how much am I getting for this? So like uh I well you're gonna go for three days. He goes, yeah well you know he still cuts hair. He's like, Well, I gotta readjust my clients and I'm gonna lose

If I go down there for three days and I said, just don't worry about it, just go. So he went, he spent three days with De Niro, and De Niro was like, you know, taking notes, how do you wear your hat, how do you hold your cigar, and you know, g tell me how to say this in Sicilian. So uh then he came back and then De Niro wanted him to come to the set and my dad's like, I ain't going to the set.

He didn't Yeah, this is like, you know, a a movie. Right? With De Niro we grew up watching and my dad's like, I ain't th so I said, just Just come to the set and hang out. So my dad was on set teaching De Niro how to do blowouts and die jobs. So We should make it clear that Sebastian's father does hair and uh and was a was a hairdresser f uh for your whole life, right? Yeah, so he cut my hair until I left the house at

uh I think twenty-three and Does he still give you does he still wanna cut your hair now? He cut my hair about four years ago and I uh said that's it. Um he's falling apart. I mean he's falling apart. It's not easy getting old. It is not easy. Especially at that age. Now every time I talk to my parents, it's like, you know, I'm I'm not being right. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I'm losing a lot of my hair. It's it's it's a lot of dust.

up there. It's a uh I use a pepper. Yeah. So it's called a fiber. Do a lot of pepper before I come up there. I got I got someone back there with a pepper with the other. But you know, the I w do wanna talk about um the you on stage because I do I love I love watching you perform because w as we talked about earlier, you are a physical and a lot of people, you know, on stage

uh kind of like neck down or disconnected from their body when they're telling jokes. They're like telling it from their head. And you really do tell it from your bodies your whole body when you perform. Did you always like to move as a kid? Like were you a like are you a physical guy? Like do you like I know you like to dance. I've seen you dance a lot. Like do you I mean not to get too, you know you don't you don't know what I'm talking about. Uh I s

Come on, everybody knows you shake out. I shake it out, but it's not I don't think it's because I have like an anxiety for anything. My shaking out is a little bit more just Just for the performance. I do like to move my hands and be physical and have facial expressions when I'm talking. Yes. I just uh took that and just

made it a little bit more grand when I'm on stage. So do you have any people that when you were growing up, like physical comedians that you loved? John Ritter is my I was just saying Are you kidding me? I just said backstage uh we were talking about physical'cause I was talking about you and I was like, I love how physical Sebastian is and I said To me. John Ritter was he was my favorite.

Right? Three's Company. For you uh young people. Go watch Three's Company and you're gonna see unbelievable, like a master of. Physical comedy, even though John wasn't a stand-up, but I took a lot of what he was doing. I used to watch three's company like game tape. Growing up. Yeah. Uh over and over and over again. There was a scene where he was on a hammock trying to get on the hammock and he fell off. So

All those little movements and then and and then he would hit himself and come up and have this day's look down the so all that stuff I really incorporated. So he was a big inspiration for me. But yeah, the physicality for me is it's just it's fun to do. It's like a

fun thing for me to do and I gotta keep keep myself entertained up there as well. Yeah, I bet. Because you did what, eighty whatever shows this year? Yeah, it was a lot. Eighty four shows I think I did. Um but yeah. Do you ever do two a days? I used to but no more. Too tired at the at the end. Yeah. Well Tina and I were were on tour and we would do you know what our favorite thing was? A four o'clock show. Oh incredible. You never do a four. No, I didn't I didn't know.

You gotta do four. It'll change your life. Four o'clock show you're done by six. No, I like the concept. I just I'm I'm wondering if my audience would look at the ticket and go, What is it four o'clock? We ain't going I gotta tell you every single person at that four o'clock show was pumped.

Am I wrong? They wanted to they wanted to go to bed. They want to go to sleep. I listen, that is nice for the audience. Come home and go right till your snack and you go to bed. How do you feel about sleep? I always

I always like to talk to people about sleep on Good Hang. What is your sleep routine when you're on the road? And is it different than when you're home? Yes. Uh it's it's m difficult on the road just because I just came like last night. I had the worst sleep. 'Cause three hours and uh plane and I gotta adjust and whatnot. But when I'm home, I am starting to go to bed sadly.

After I tuck my kids in. I love this. Tell talk to me about the time. So I'm in bed about, I'd say about nine o'clock. Incredible. Sebastian, this is uh my audience. We we love bedtime. We love bedtime. All we think about is bedtime. I love bedtime. Nine PM is a winner move. It is. I try to be consistent with the sleep just because if it starts to vary and then it gets Are you doing any sleep, eight sleep mattress ring? No, I I have a CPAP machine because I have

Um you're wearing a a breather or whatever the hell that is? A breather? Whatever the hell it is? I thought I thought only like that. No, it's usually It's like a man thing. Right, no. Lucky for me it's not just a man thing. You're right. It usually is a man thing. Have you ever heard a woman going, I gotta travel with this thing? I never heard of that, right? I never re I'm sorry. I not a lot of women are are doing that. Well I've always I've always been ahead of my field.

No yeah, it's pretty sexy stuff. It's pretty sexy It's pretty sexy stuff. But yeah, I have I am a sleeve apnea, so I wear the sleep ad machine and I gotta tell you I love it. It's changed my life. I love it. Okay. I would ne I I would never change it for the world. I I I love it so much. It's it's totally changed my life. Anyone who's thinking about it.

Just for fun. Anybody who wants to try it for fun, do it. It's great. It's very beneficial. Incredible. Do you do it consistently every night? Of course. Okay. gotta do it every night and it's and it puts you right to sleep. It's it's like The sound and it has air, um excuse me, water, so it's like hydrated so you never ever wake up with dry mouth, bad breath, nose, any of that stuff, because you're always

hydrated. You put your lip balm on, your creams, you hydrate, and then you go. And then you look like a fighter pilot. You go to space. But what's your bedroom bedtime routine? Tell me about your lotions because I bet you have a skincare routine. And I put a little cologne on before. I got a little nighttime cologne. Different than daytime cologne? Yeah, I shower prior to bed. Sh of course. Do a full lo I I I say last two years.

A full body lotion from head to toe. Oh, very good. All right. What kind of brand you got going on? It's a variety of different brands. I can't recall because again my wife is just giving me stuff like that. Here, use this lotion. Oh, okay. Smart. You don't want to give them free stuff. I get it. There's one I a lot of them I can't pronounce. Some of them are French. Okay. So and then I I've been doing this cologne routine. Or I do five sprays in my palm. I get it hot.

And I neck it and I go to bed. And then in the morning what I've been doing and this is something maybe you guys should try tomorrow, I've been doing two different colognes. one on the front and one on the back so you get one cent coming and one cent going that's something beautiful Wow. Even in the men cologne I Yeah, I love I sure and also the the f the front and back is genius. Because it's like It's beautiful. I thought I knew him. You know, like he's still a mystery to me.

I mean you're on tour all the time. Who's making you laugh right now? Like, do you watch comedy? Do you like to go No. No, I know. No. I don't either. It's just a busman's holiday to go. But like do do you what do you what do you what how do you do you watch stuff to make you laugh? Do you watch videos? Do you Do you watch other comics? What do you I don't I don't look at entertainment for the comedy of it. I look like at documentaries, I like drama.

If I wanna laugh, I got a friend back in Chicago. His name is George. I'll call him. Tell us about George. He just he's one of these guys that just uh he's he's funny. He's like we could talk about daily life and he just makes me laugh. So George is kind of my go to for for comedy. But as far as stand up comedy, I don't like watching it generally just because

I don't know. I mean I like to laugh. I like to see what people doing. Maybe a a special come on, I'll see five minutes of somebody and then I'll and I'll just turn it off if I really like it. The last one I I I watched from from front to back was Giannis Papas. Yes. Couple couple specials ago I thought was really, really funny and they caught me on a night where you know I was so like giddy and laughing. So generally speaking though, I'm like documentary ser I I laugh at serious I love serious

Um, do you watch anything like do you watch reality TV? Do you care about that? My wife got me into Love is Blind. So every now and then, what are you laughing at? I guess the question is, do you believe it is? The show I mean come on the concept of it is cute. Oh I'm gonna fall in love with somebody and then on the inside and then you know but that's half, you know, you you know

You gotta eventually come out and look at the person. If they got no teeth, you know, it's a problem. They gotta walk down the stairs on their hands for them to be worth worth their salt. I mean, love is blind is um i for me, like for peop peop people who are listening who might not know, you know, they talk and then they finally see each other after they meet each other just from talking.

And my mirror neurons like I get so codependently stressed when those doors open and the body language was so stressful. When they're like, hey When they go from like arms open to just like pat, pat pat. Oh, yo, yo. And the way that like the body never lies. Like when the way when they go in for the kiss and it's just like

Oh, they just turn, they just turn they turn their mouth away and give'em the cheek and be that too, but it's brutal. No, I can't handle that. All right. So you like dark stuff. Well I mean dark. It's just like I like I don't know. I serious moments I tend to laugh at and find funny. Like my wife will be telling me a serious story and I'll just

bust out laughing. She what the what's wrong with you? I d I don't know. I'm thinking about something that's funny pertaining to what you're saying. So Yeah. I know what you mean. Okay, so you've got a new special coming out. Yeah.

An h another hour plus the material, how takes you how long to get I don't know. It's been averaging like three three years. Every three years I come up with an hour. It's difficult'cause what you want to do going into these specials is you want to to be equal to or greater than the last one, right? Yeah. And it's difficult because, you know, a lot of comedians have a lot of their best material coming out of the gate because they've been working so long and now they're gonna you know, and then

You know, people expect a certain level from you. So take it very serious to make these specials kinda special because I felt like my last one I was going through um injury. I had um sciatic pain on my right leg. No way. And it was very hard for me to move around. Too much play. Too much play. A lot of play.

And I felt like I couldn't perform like I normally would perform just because I was in pain. I couldn't move. Plus, I dressed in a tuxedo. I'm like, I'm gonna try something different, right? Yeah. I'm gonna bring Vegas back. to Frank Sinatra. So I wanted the audience to dress up and this and 20 people dressed up. And uh and I felt very hampered in a tuxedo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I I wanted to like kinda correct that with this special and uh I have no more sciatica and no more tuxedo. Do you do a good do you have a good sciatica stretch? Um I Do you keep up on that? I do. I I take a ball. Yeah. And tennis ball, a cross ball, what kind of ball? It is a it's like a a ball that you would buy to roll out your legs. Okay. And I put it right here and my

And my SOAS. Yes. And I you guys know what that is, right? Yeah, I feel like this is like a lot like like a health related section. We're doing sleep, now we're doing sciatica. Uh we gotta we gotta sleep apnea. We we've got to keep we gotta give we gotta get all the tips. Okay. Put it in your psoas. In your so and roll it. Like so you get on the floor and then you basically from my research, uh which is

Instagram. A lot of the sciatic pain is coming from the front side of the body, particularly in the psoas. And I have a very tight psoas. region. Not to brag. I got a big psoas. Okay. So what I've learned you got you and Pete have been doing your podcast for twelve years. What what do you like about doing it? What have you learned uh like what what's the best thing about having a podcast? Like what what do you like about it?

What I use it for is long form storytelling. So Pete and I are like, you know, he's a beer and peanut guy, I'm a wine and cheese guy. We're very opposites in the way we kind of conduct our life. And he's so funny and so quick witted and he's a great listener. And like a lot of times when you're telling a story, you know this, uh you that you know, like story has beats to it and you know, if somebody tells you, Amy, tell that story about that.

I I I'll look at the crowd and I don't know if you do. Not a crowd, but like a group of people and I go, I'm not telling that story because I know the attention span of where we're at, right? I know the story needs to breathe and whatnot. But Pete allows me to really kinda go off on a tangent with a lot of the stories and he adds great commentary. So we're not guest driven. We don't really have a lot of guests just because we have so much fun talking to one another.

But we've been doing this for twelve years. We we basically it's like phone c it's like a recorded phone call. Yeah. And uh and we have a ball and that's kinda what I get out of the podcast. It as Pete was saying, we don't really have I mean we have a loyal fan base and I mean nothing like Like this, this army you have that comes out to see uh But it is I mean if you're looking for like really just storytelling and comedic storytelling, uh that's what I believe.

podcasting has done for us is just give us an opportunity. Cause, you know, when you do stand up, you need it to be tight. You need it to be hitting it all cylinders. With the podcast, you know, you guys or whoever's listening to it. Could be in, you know, your bathroom getting ready, you're working out and whatnot. So you know, you chuckle here and there, it's funny.

But uh yeah, it's been been a pleasure working with him and and we plan on doing it. Uh I mean w yeah, it's it's it's it's it's like a it's a labor of love for us. Yeah, that's great because And the best thing about it I feel like is, you know, with these like longer extended conversations, you can figure out your th like you can figure out how you feel about things in real time. Like you can you can hear people kind of sort through

their like value system in a way, but also just like they like figure out life in real time with someone else. Like it's kinda cool to hear that. And um

And because of that I wanna throw out some things and I just wanna get your take about how you feel about them. Okay, so we're gonna do a little speed round. Oh good. Okay. Shoeless household. Okay. It's a big debate. Yeah. Because I do a a joke about uh going over to somebody's house and they ask, could you please remove your shoes?

And I'm like, you know, I'm a grown man. I don't I don't feel like I should be walking around somebody else's house in my socks. Yeah. Right? I just don't feel confident. Once a man loses his shoes, you can't really Any other man. It's like you're in your socks, guy. Come on. But, you know, there's people out there that are very adamant. How dare you y you know, come in with shoes on, you know how much

Stuff is on the bottom of your shoes are gonna trai that into the house. Yeah, okay, fine, I get it. It's hasn't been a little bit of a for me for the last 52 years. No one's ever got sick. Like, what the did somebody come in here with their shoes on? So If you come by the house, people will be kind and go, oh, do you want me to take my shoes off? And I feel so good when I go, nah. Leave them on.

Especially women man, that's uh they love shoes. They come over with a nice heel, what they go, okay, let me take this on and then I gotta walk around barefoot. Have you seen the bottom of some people's feet? What's on what's on what kind of bacteria? That might be even worse than a shoe. Now Pete was talking to us about misophonia. Yeah. Homophobe.

I'm not not a germophobe. I I wouldn't I wouldn't say I'm not wiping down the plane seat when I walk on the plane, but I'm like I I often look at people and how they kinda conduct their lives and go, how the hell could you be doing that here? You know? I just feel like there's no like, you know, you go on an airplane and people will take their shoes off and they're barefoot and then they walk into the bathroom. Not okay. So I sh I

With this misophonia, if you don't know what it is, and it's it's um again, Pete said I I was not uh diagnosed with it. Yeah, his question I think was what do you w when are you gonna get properly diagnosed. Well I don't think I need to. I just feel like if you were opening up a bag of chips right now and eating Doritos, I ha my window of tolerance for that.

It's very small. Yeah. Could be anything. People on a c uh you know a typing, uh heavy typers. You don't like a heavy typer. Oh God. I mean like if you're like banging on the keyboard and you're at Starbucks and I'm waiting in line, I will just hear keyboard and nothing else. Like it drowned out all other sounds. Like a Tom Cruise movie. It's amazing. It really is amazing. And I don't want to get rid of this.

Because I feel like not only do I have a sensitivity to sound, but also just people in general. their behavior. And I feel if I if I lose the misophonia, I'm gonna lose the ability or my radar to detect that that guy hasn't laughed at all. Right? Right. So that's why I I keep the disease. Yeah.

Wedding registries. Wedding registries. Oh, that's a good one. Uh we had a registry when we got married. Um I have no problem with it. I don't pay attention to it because again Growing up in Italian family, we often brought money to the wedding. So you put like s some cash in an envelope and then you know, you don't bring a toaster or blender or uh the whatever. I just you know y nice cash. Yeah.

Especially when you're getting started married. It used to be, you know, people got married kind of young and they needed a start, right? Oh, here's five hundred dollars, you know, here's go buy uh go buy something to get your s life started. But now it's like, I don't know, man, it's like the the parents are bankrolling.

A lot of these kids today. I mean it's it's amazing. And it got silent in here because maybe some of the people are in here. Yeah, this is New York City. Yeah. Look at how quiet it got. Your mother paid for the tickets tonight. Yeah, everybody turned to their mother who there was With and said, I don't know what he's talking about. Is there a thing, is there anything at a wedding that people do that you that drives you nuts? Um I'm not into taking home food and this is big

Italian culture. They'll go to the sweet table, Italians have a sweet table, and they'll they'll take a styrofoam. to the thing that they hand off. Okay. Home. I'm like, come on. Have this for breakfast tomorrow? I just think it's a tacky move. I don't like to go at a wedding. I've never seen that. No, come to one of my weddings. You'll see it. Pets.

Should people have them? Should people have pets? I have to tell you, I've never had a pet uh up until uh a year ago. I got a I got a dog. We got two dogs now. So we got'em for the kids. I'm not a huge animal lover. It's um and um I like animals but like I'm not, you know, coming home and I don't take it out to get coffee or anything, you know. I'm I'm taking out an airplane. I just felt like we had a We had a pet in the neighborhood growing up.

His name was Idolo. They it's the it's it's the male version of Italy. That's that's the name the dog, Idolo. And it lived in the garage year round. I mean it would be 13 below and the the dog would be in the garage I don't know, it just it was just kinda like there, the dog. It wasn't like the focal point. of the home. Right. So we just like, yeah, you're right, okay. But now the dogs up here and it's the penny and

It bothers me. I'm sorry. It's just What kind of dog did you pets forget it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm allergic to cats, that's why I I don't like them, but God, I I I s I I don't even go to people I got a good friend, he's got a cat, he's got two cats. I go, I can't come to the house until the cats die. I can't. Yeah.

Amy Miles um has cats and she had a cat that really tried to almost like become your lover. Like the cat would and I was saying I I feel the same way about cats, like I feel fine with them. And I think they're great. But I don't really want I'm a tiny bit allergic, like just a little bit, so I try not to touch them and because of it they're obsessed. Obsessed with me. I just ignore them and they just come up and crawl and they get in your clothes. And Amy used to have a cat named Nosferatu.

Who would try to suck your spirit out of your mouth? So I understand. Yelling. Yelling. Um How do you feel about yelling? I mean, I don't know, a good yell every now and then is is healthy. Do you yell at your kids? Again, I'm not one of these parents. That gets on the same level as their kids and go just it's uh tell me what you're going through. It's it's not that. I think a good dose

Of a yell. Not a lot because I w with raising kids you have to act sometimes like you're psychotic, right? And if you lose uh lose your composure will go, wow, we don't want to see that again. Right? So a good yell I think every now and then sets the family straight. Agree. Oh, you're getting some applause. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. You're getting applause from the parents of the people who paid for their kids to video. Santa Claus.

We had a problem with Santa Claus. Again, this is another thing I'm not into. My daughter accused my wife and I of being Santa Claus. This is when she was five years old. Okay. And I wasn't ready for it. I thought Santa Claus discussions normally happen maybe around eight to ten to eleven. So I'm like, what the five? That's a that's a little young. So I came out of the room, I asked my wife, I go, what uh get on this text that you're with the moms and find out what's going on at school.

We found out that a lot of parents tell their kids there's no Santa because they don't want to lie. to their kids. Right? Now I'm thinking that's all I do is lie to my kids, right? Eat your carrots, you're gonna see better. But yeah. So I got so upset. Yeah. I was at a Christmas party. There was a Santa Claus there. So I'm telling Santa. Generally speaking when I go to these parties, you dance. I talk to like the waiters and the people that are working in the party.

Yeah, go back of the house. Yeah, go back of the house. So I talked to the Santa and I said, uh, you know, kid don't believe and he goes, well, I offer a service where I could come to the house. Sware yeah, this is in Los Angeles. Can you believe it? I come to the house on Christmas Eve. And I'll put the presents down. 1230 at night, this guy comes. I'm in my robe in the in the driveway. Come come that's right. The tree's over here, Sarah. She comes in.

I wake up the kids and I go, Santa's here. We come, we look at Santa. And then Santa uh then the kids go back to bed. I peel off three hunj for this drunk Santa in my house and now the kids have you know they they believe again. So I highly recommend if you get a Santa to come to your house, it's

Incredible. Incredible. Wow. And I guess the last question I want to ask you, Sebastian, and thank you so much for your time and again check out Sebastian's new special on Hulu and all the good work that he's doing. It's so great to have you. Thank you so much for doing Doing this. It's been so fun. Can you just talk me through how you cook your steak? Okay. Because It feels like what I've read is that you do a reverse sear and I wanna talk about it. Okay. I like these questions.

So I found this video this about ten years ago online about the reverse sear. Basically what it is is you take the steak out of the refrigerator, you leave it set for about thirty minutes, get it to room temperature. I like to do mine about forty five, fifty minutes. Just let it get used to the atmosphere. And what kind of cut are we talking about? Uh used to like um

A ribeye now I'm onto New York's New York strip because the ribeye got a lot of fat on it and at this age, you know, I could go at any minute. So I'm doing New York uh uh strip steak um and I heavily salt it and heavily uh put put pepper on it uh right from the hair. Uh and then I set the oven to 275. I put it in there for about 45 minutes. After the 45 minutes, I take it out, I let it rest for 15.

All the while I got a uh cast iron skillet, white hot. I do a sear for about a minute each side, cut and serve with a little Rosemary lining the serving plate. I like garnish on a plate when it comes to the table because a lot of times when you have steak, there might be a little, you know, blood or whatever kind of moving throughout the plate.

Plate and I like the uh the stems of rosemary. It kind of adds a nice touch. So anything else in the pan? Like no butter? No. I know a lot of people do a little oil maybe but garlic and then they they they kind of bake. with the spoon. No, this is a you don't need it. You snake here, you want you want us you want a a shout-out and a sponsor for this? Snake River Farm meat is probably the best meat that you can get. You gotta order it

Uh I've been promoting these these this meat company for a while. For real? And uh not one free fillet. I'm the guy that gets nothing. Like Amy probably has a bunch of stuff coming to the house, right? Swag. Here's that. We understand you got a band. Here's a guitar. Right? I get nothing. Nothing is sent to me. No here. Let's try that. I got no boxes. Like DJ Khaled is constantly opening up a watch or shoes. I got nothing.

And what's your sides? Before you go, I need to know what are you serving with your steak? So we like to do a fingerling potato. Not what I expected. What'd you expect? I expected a whipped or a mashed. Funny you say that. I started doing Mashed because my kitchen is being remodeled right now and I can't cook. But I started doing mashed potatoes prior to the the kitchen remodel.

And you know, it's it's a little bit labor intensive. Yeah, it's not easy to get a good mash. Yeah, it's not easy to get a good mash, but The fingerling is sufficing for now, and then I'll take a I'll put a green in there. I'll put a I'll put a broccoli and I'll put a little asparagus. Um I'm trying to get the kids to eat you know, healthy. Um, you know, with this kind of grab and go stuff that I'm not into the processed foods, although, you know, w I'm not saying that I'm eating so well, but

Yeah, you want to give the f the kids a nice. Young kids that I'll share with you too. Um I learned it from my brother who lives in Sweden with his um Swedish wife and family.

They do this, I don't know if it's sweet it's probably not Swedish just what they do. But like when dinner time is almost ready, like that hungry time when like you're five thirty six when the kids like about to eat and Food is cooking, they just put a big plate of vegetables with like ranch or hummus on the table, and your kid is hungry. And they eat a bunch of carrots and celery just as a snack'cause it's not part of their dinner. Like

But the minute you put it on the plate with anything like pizza or pasta or anything, they're not gonna eat it. But if you slide it in there before dinner, when they're hungry, they'll have a few carrot sticks. They don't even know they're eating it. You know, it that does sound good in theory. Okay. But how prone are you to, you know, cuts and carrot radishes? You got this beautiful

tray of vegetables and one one carrot and then who's eating the rest of the vegetables, right? Are you? Are you gonna knock'em out? No, they're going in the garbage. You're right, cutting too many vegetables is a nightmare. But I would take a vegetable over a fruit any day. What's your what's your vegetable? Well, I love anything in the pea family. So I love a pea, I love a a a uh you know, what do you call it a Uh uh uh yeah.

Snap pea, thank you. I love a pea, I love I love an asparagus. I I I love a potato. Does that count as a vegetable? Yeah, it doesn't? I don't know. Mushroom, I love a mushroom. Okay, a mushroom. Soap. What's your favorite fruit? I feel like some kind of like Savory like a like a chicken curry with mushrooms and rice. No, no, no, no. Uh food dead. Foo. Did you hear food? Oh, you said fruit? Yeah, foo. You said it like you said it like this. Foo!

What's your favorite fruit? What's your favorite food? Shoot at him. What's your favorite fruit? My favorite fruits? Fruit? Oh no, a plum. A plum? Oh wow. What's your favorite food? What's your favorite fruit? Fruit is a banana or a strawberry to toss up. Yeah. And uh vegetable I like an asparagus. I I really choose I'd go strawberry or banana or a vegetable any day at a week.

You'd go fruit over veg anyway. Wow. And you got this audience. As we as we wrap up, I guess raise your hand. Are you are you uh raise your hand if you'd go fruit over veg. Wow. Look at that. Look at that. I can't even see the people up the top. That's impressive. The people on the side on the park ride are all veg. Nobody's voting fruit. Unbelievable. Well, you found your audience, Sebastian. I did.

Thank you so much. Thanks. Thanks for having me here. I really appreciate it. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weisburn. Polar. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kia McMahon. And Alea Zaniris. For paperkite, production by Sam Green. Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Verman. Original music by Amy Myers. The UPS door service.

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