Jennifer Lawrence

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Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about our guest today, Jennifer Lawrence. Jen and I, we have a good time and we laugh a lot in this episode and we talk about a lot of great things. Her incredible career, the surprising parts of parenthood, um, her long torso, my short leg.

Um, and we do what we always like to do here in Good Hang. We sing along to Shania Twain. But before we get started, we want to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who can speak well behind her back and give me a question to ask this guest. And we are joined by Justine Shiraki. Justine is a producer. She runs Excellent Cadaver, the production company that's produced uh films like Causeway and Die My Love, and uh her and Jen have been friends forever. So Justine.

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Hey girl. Hi. I'm really happy to talk to you today because I mean I think the stuff that you guys have done together is really, really special. But also you just shared a long history together as people in the world and friends. Well, that's very generous of you to say and Obviously we've been enormous fans for a hundred years. So it's like such an honor to talk to you and I'm like pinching myself.

And she is too that she's coming on the podcast. Oh my god, she's so good at podcasts. I mean, she's so good at talking. That's that's her shit. For sure. Totally. Now, um before we start talking about Jennifer, I do want to talk about you. Where did you grow up? I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. I actually think we have Aubrey Plaza in common. I grew up with Aubrey and did community theater with her. Like my childhood, yes.

Yes. You guys went to the same school like you were in the same town? Yeah, we went to the same elementary school and we both um were in a community theater at the Wilmington Drama League, an esteemed venue for like most of our Most of our childhood. Oh my gosh, what was baby plaza like? Exactly the same as Adult Plaza. Yeah. Like hasn't changed a bit.

The greatest. The greatest. That's so what a small world. And so the two of you are like there doing shows and and and performing. And then where d where does that take you after you graduate? I didn't really know where I would fit in film. And so I

you know, took a bunch of odd jobs and and explored and during that period I met Jen. And what was your first impression of her when you met? Oh my first impression of Jen was that she was a wild beast. Mm-hmm. And also that she had Because Jen didn't have like a traditional education, she also swerved a lot of the like social anxiety that I think a lot of people our age had been plagued with. So

Jen had this like abandon and lack of self-consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends. So we were sort of like wide-eyed by her. And I think that that's something that she still possesses all these years later. It's something that she hasn't outgrown or you know, she's she's never

Yeah, she's n she has not become jaded by her totally surreal lifestyle. So how do you go from two young women like sitting on a couch in a small LA apartment to running this big company and making these big movies? Like how does that work? Oh man, I mean it's a it's a loaded question. I think that we met as young women and obviously developed our taste together. We were discovering film.

Together, uh, everything from Wangkar Y to sex in the city, you know, like it ran the gamut. And I also think that we became best friends. And so What we we care about similar things. We're moved by similar things. We have similar reactions to life and what's happening in the world. And

that really is the basis for our decision making around what we take on as producers. So I think the obviously like extraordinary happenstance of Jen Jen's young success and her being in this incredible position to get things made. And then Jen and I continuing to like care for our relationship and continuing to grow together. And so I think the Odyssey has involved ton of hard work and care and um all the things you would imagine and also us uh And I also I loved Causeway.

Oh thank you. Such a beautiful movie. I want to talk to Jen about it. I just it's just a great, great movie. Beautiful director, Lila. Oh, we love Lila. Brian is so Brian Tyree Henry so good. Jen is so convincing as the character that she plays.

uh physically and kind of spiritually wounded vet who's returning home. It's so good. Such a good movie. It's it's it's always so nice to see Jen in those roles where the the kind of like stripped back quieter performances where it's as so much of it is just happening in her eyes, you know?

I don't. I mean, I don't I don't know how to act like that. Like, I mean, we were kind of talking about we were talking about an interview where we were like and you know, it's hard not to be like, You're so good at acting. But she is so good at acting. She's she's she's good, but she's fucking good. Like you just are there times when you're watching her and you're like, damn, she's really good at acting. Every time. Every time. Like I I I've sat on probably eleven sets with Jen.

And every time my mind just is like blowing out of my face, I'm like, still? Like it does not get old. She just levels up. Every time. Mm-hmm. You know her really well. You know, sometimes we we ask people to talk well behind our guests back and they've worked with them or they kind of know them, but you ha you know her really, really well. Um you've known her for a really long time and you're deep partners in in and work and your loving friends in life and what do you think

I should ask her today, um, what do you want to know about, hear about, or what do you think she'd wanna talk about, or a story she'd wanna tell? Oh man, I mean, with Jen, it's funny because she is so um like transparent in these spaces. Like I don't think that she's somebody who where there are like a ton of subjects that are off limits.

Well it's okay, this is really helpful because I've been prepping for the interview and I don't wanna put her in an uncomfortable position ever to ask her something she doesn't want to talk about, but she also feels really um well aware of what she feels comfortable talking about, I guess. Um I think she is. And I think she'll also like tell you. Like I think that she I think like

She'll pivot if she needs to. You never have to answer a question if you don't want to answer it. And it is and it's a magic trick to not answer it. And people often forget that what question they ask. Oh I mean, this isn't a good thing to tell a guest, probably. This is probably not a good thing to get. But anyway, do you have it it doesn't have to be a heavy question? It can be something small. Anything that you think we should ask her today. I mean, gosh, like

Maybe because she's in a position of constantly being asked questions and she is never in charge of what is being asked. Like maybe it's asking her, like what would you like to talk more about that you don't feel Whoa, that's a good friend. You know? Maybe, maybe she is a big enough.

Or just something that she'd like to like reflect on. You know what? That's a really good friend because what you're basically saying is just check in with her and see if there's anything else she wants to talk about. Yeah. It's so true. She like is tired of talking about, you know, that too. Yeah. What are you what do you want? It's basically like you're at the TSA and it's like, what do you want to declare? And and what and what perishables would you like to get rid of? Totally.

Well, no, but thank you so much. And um I will give your best to Aubrey Plaza. I like picturing you guys. being weird together in Wilmington. Yeah, that's that's that's the right picture. Justine, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the question. All right, nice talking. See you later. Okay, take care. Bye.

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Say more. No, I'm obviously being sarcastic. Well, I was worried about what to wear today because your style is so dope. Thank you. You have great. style. Oh my God, that's the only thing you need to say to me. And what is your I wanna know how do you pick clothes? What is your relationship too close? Okay. Thank you so much. Um, we'd love to talk about this. I'll just'cause I'm fascinated because I'm struggling with mine.

Um I well I I have a I have very opinionated friends, one in particular, a very opinionated friend. And we we clear out clo we I do I do a lot of closet clean outs. I think living in New York helps with that. Yeah. I don't have a lot of Mm-hmm.

things that I really like. Do you think about do you plan your outfits for the week? I mean, obviously with press it's different. I do it like mentally. I like start kind of planning something and I I take my kid to school and I know that I'm gonna get photographed. Right. So I I do kind of do like a mental like like what do I well how do I want to present today? No. No. 'Cause'cause the answer is always the same. Today I wanna present as like effortless, but you know, like

I didn't even know this girl. How'd she get this? I didn't know what I put on. And you know what also is really important to remember? Tell me. You can write it down. I'm ready. Big goes with big. Okay, this is a big thing. You cannot ever have tight on the bottom, baggy on the top. Or you'll look like a lamp. You can have baggy on the bottom and tight on the top.

But you cannot do the other way around. I'll tell you something about baggy on the bottom. I wore baggy on the bottom for you today. You did? Yeah, I'll show you later. I've I have baggy pants. Um I'm so short. It's like it's tough. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough to go baggy on the bottom. But I have short legs but a really long torso. Yeah, and big thick meaty arms. So okay, so long torso. I see. Then that silhouette. You know your silhouette.

I I guess Yeah. And it's I mean knowing is not loving. Dude, you got great style. I mean I and I and and like you, like I'm always just looking to see how women are dressing. Like not b not like just truly like how do we Not just the style. When I see something. And when I actually feel comfortable, it feels like such a win. Yeah. To wear something that you feel like you look good in and you also

feel good in. It's like a hard thing to do. Yeah, you feel like you're like representing yourself accurately. Yeah. Yeah. Or e the the worst thing is like when you're like, I think I nailed it. Then you see the picture. Years later. Not even years later. Oh my God. You're like, I remember feeling really good. Yeah. I had that recently'cause I was postpartum, but I was like

But I but I had like in my in my with my second I had like bad postpartum. So like I wasn't eating. So I felt really skinny. Right. But I wasn't. But inside you, I was like strapless. Let's do this. And my baby was like three weeks old. I mean, you are like a lot of people, like were working through a lot of your pregnancies. And that's also a weird thing too, because you're like,

Your your body is kind of you're like bringing your body along for the ride. Well, I was surprised more people haven't talked about how skinny I am and I my love because I'm pregnant. And I've been waiting and nobody said it. Nobody's like, wow, you were pregnant? You looked so skinny. Like I've never had a Nozempic rumor. Not yet. Well. Not yet. Not yet.

After this, after this, we're gonna take this frame and we're gonna squeeze it down. No, but it it is true. It's like when you talk about how tall and I'm like a um no, but I I I Love what you've been talking about. W we're gonna we have so many things to talk about today. And I just wanna start by saying this is what I've gleaned from meeting you briefly and and feeling like I and I know people who know you really well and just like who? Um I don't wanna talk about them. Uh um

I'm best friends with your mom. But you seem and I know it's gonna sound cheesy, but you like women. Oh yeah. I know but I do and it It shows. Well what do you think I like love white men? Like, oh my god. If I could just be their champion. They're so misunderstood. Yeah, I'm always like, wait, think about the other side. Not all men.

I have a tattoo. No, but you know, you you and the reason why to me it's not what you say it's not what one says is what they do. And what you do all the time that I think women do for each other is you like you tell the real, real behind something. Like you you're you you talk about like this was difficult or I'm thinking about this or like you basically I think when people stay mysterious

It's like a disservice to other women. It's just like, okay, you know. And you do this thing that I really appreciate that comes through, which is you're trying to be honest in real time and trying to connect. And I think that's I think that's what women do for other women when they like women. That's the best way to say it. And so I like today when I was thinking about our interview, I was like, I've been really hearing you talk about How you're trying to figure out the balance between

Who do I wanna be and what like what parts of me do I wanna give out to the rest of the world? And what parts do I wanna keep for myself, which feels like very like thirties totally thing. Where are you at right now with the balance of that? Because you are so famous. And so real. Well, thank you. And those two things are not always the case. Right. I think that I, when I do press, I should do half.

than what normal people do. Cause I see my quotes and they like they're insane. Like like Jennifer Lawrence calls Courtney Kardashian annoying. Like it's just too, you know? Yeah, it's you're right. It's it's but it It carries. It carries it. Well, first of all, honestly, it's funny. Because it's you're so funny. Thank you. And the third piece of the puzzle I'll say is that you're very uh you feel like a real Protestant. You're very

You've had your hand on my knee this entire interview. It's and it's a long stretch. You have a really long arm. These pants are baggy. Really too baggy to get in there. Um, no, you're you're you're famous. And Ero erotic and real and deeply funny. Like, oh my god, I have no idea what that's like coming from you. You're my hero.

Dude, but i I I I don't say that to everybody. And you know, God is fair. Like usually you don't have all those things going at once. Usually you have like a very like important, interesting actor who's like really good at acting, but maybe like

You know, maybe not the funniest. Or you have a deeply funny person who you wouldn't maybe believe in a scene, but you can do both. Oh thank you. I could do this all day. Okay, well I'm glazing you, as the kids like to say. What's is that what they say? You don't know. Are you glazing? Well you've got teenagers.

What do you want to know about teens? I know everything. You have two boys, I have two boys. I'm I you know, I missed my window to really ask about six seven. I know that it's like it's over now. I know. I miss the window. So I d I don't even care anymore. Actually anything that we know is over. Right. By the time it gets to like your mom. Yeah, like if the New York Times is writing about it, it's it's been over. Okay. Like no one's saying it anymore. But to explain it,

Like like Like instead of period boots. But but that's from drivers. Like I'm deceased. Boots like Yeah, like like well like period end of boots. Right. I feel like period's still around. Period. But you're supposed to replace it with boots, I think. Or that's just a gay culture thing. I d I don't actually know. Yeah. Um we could I have a laptop, we could look it up. We could spend the entire chat GPT. Hello. Do we still say boots? Young culture or just gay monoculture?

But what is it f but you're in your mid thirties now. You are I bet you're starting to feel just Just what you just expressed, which is like Oh, old. Oh yeah. But it's weird, right? Because you're you do not feel old in your one does not really feel old in their twenties. I my assistant is twenty three. Okay. And so like I was doing like a closet clean out yesterday and she was like, Oh my God, these are like real skinny jeans.

Like they like it was like these are not a joke. She was like, Wow, they really do go in at the bottom and I'm like And we were talking about baby mama and I'm like so funny, so funny. She was like, That was probably like the first comedy I ever saw And I was like, How old were you? Seven. You're a millennial? Yeah. Like mid millennial. I don't know when it begins or ends. But I mean I was born in ninety. You know, there's this I feel like you would like this, but we'll probably cut it.

There's this book that I'm obsessed with called The Fourth Turning and it's all about how y eighty years of history just keep repeating itself and we're kind of getting at the end of the chaos era, which makes sense, right, for the past like twenty, whatever years. But it's like each generation throughout the years have come forward to save like, you know, different eras from peril. And the millennials are gonna be the heroes in the next, um, the next good life.

Oh, that sounds so hard. I'm so tired. I believe in you and I wish you the best of luck. I was hoping that these kids would save us. It's you guys. And I feel like that makes sense because we've really you know, I'm Gen X, we everybody like really gave it to millennials and like rolled their eyes at how well parented they were or how blah blah blah we just like thought that they were and I think they're gonna really show us they're gonna save things. So

Chop chop. Okay. All right. Thanks so much. Yeah, it is funny when you see like what gentle parenting is gonna Yeah. Do. Yeah. But okay, speaking of gentle parenting, this is a good segue.

I want to get to you go from I I'm blown away by the story and I I'm sure you've told it before, but I just need to know the details, which is Louisville, you're on a trip to New York with your mom. Yeah. And a guy comes up on the street and says,

Can I take your picture? Yeah, tell us the story. Well he took okay, I will tell you the story and I just w I feel like I'm lying. Okay, it's an amazing story. Okay, but it's it's it is the truth, but it's just one of those I'm like a woman, so I feel like I have to like apologize and then I'm lying. Um I was in New York, I'm sorry, for spring break and I was watching street dancing in Union Square.

Whoa. Never seen that before. Not a lot of street dancing in Louisville. And um a man named Daniel, who is a talent scout, came up to to me and my mom and was like, Can I take her picture? I'm like a model scout. And we were just like, cool, okay, you know, no sense of danger. Yeah. Uh, if he had had like told us to meet him at a hotel room, we a hundred percent went up. Totally. Um and and then he took my picture on the street. Joe Jonas actually wore the picture on his t shirt.

At a concert one time and it was the first time I had seen that picture since it happened. Um That's so weird. Weird. I've since seen it. Um got it. I don't really know what to do with it. I'm not gonna like print it out. And so then I went and started being interviewed by like modeling agencies. And what was becoming like really apparent was like if you're a model, you're a model. Like if you're a model

you're traveling, you're not acting, like there's no commercials, there's no, you know. So it somewhere in those interviews I decided that I would only sign with an agency that would also let me act. Even though it hadn't been like an actual Yeah, did you know any actors growing up? Did you think you would do that as a job? No, never. Wild. But then once it kind of like was

brought up as a possibility. I mean, I did, I would always watch like Hillary Death, like when I got home from school. And then I would like do Hillary Duff like in the mirror. So it kind of all came together. But it is really random that someone came up and was like, Hey kid, throw this pitch and you like have the most amazing fastball. You're So good at acting. Oh thank you. And

The fact that someone was like, Hey, do you wanna go do this acting thing? I mean, I guess it was through modeling, but like they were like, Hey you I mean, it's so wild of it's it's a needle in a haystack kind of mo. Do you think you would have pursued it if that didn't happen?

I don't think so. I don't think I would have been aware that that was possible. Although like being in the big city, I was like, Oh, I wanna live in a I wanna live here. I wanna live in a city. Did you have a vibe city? Yeah, like you know when you look back at your life sometimes and you see like Christmas cards where people say like

You know, hope you make it to New York someday. And you think like what did you ever feel like you had that version of like, I want to get out of Louisville, I wanna be s go somewhere else? Yeah, I think like when it was happening. I think like I mean, I really wasn't there for that long when I think about it, like thirteen, fourteen. That's normally like before you even start getting those like Yeah.

So uh once I came back, it was just like an impossible fever. It was just like I gotta get back there, I gotta do what I gotta do, you know. And and I had made money. I used to train horses and I would babysit. So I had like three thousand dollars. And so I was like, I'm getting out of here. Let's get out of here. Yeah. You trained horses? Wow. You proved my point that I feel like w women and young girls that like horses usually have great hair. Uh always

I don't know. I have a bunch of theories and one of them is that if you like horses, it makes your hair grow really thick. Oh my God. Because you know what a friend of mine every time she's on mushrooms thinks that I look like my little pony. This is for you, Rachel. This is for you.

You raise you which I hope you're gonna be able to do it. Um, but when I was looking at your life and career and I was kind of blown away by how much stuff happened so fast and young in the in the years of like nineteen to twenty two. Yeah. That way that's it. A lot. That's why I was so emotional over those skinny jeans. They were my twenty three year old ragambones. Yes. And that was a tender time. Because you were how old what year were you twenty two thousand and

2012. Because you did Winter's Bone, a beautiful movie, incredible performance when you were 19. Then you do S and L close to that time too, like the following year maybe? Did I, yeah, twenty. Yeah, because it was before uh Oscars for silver linings. In Winter's Bone I remember being too young to drink. I did. But at the Oscars. And what were your memories of doing S and L at that time? Skewed. Skewed, skewed, skewed. You weren't on the cast then. No, twenty twelve. I had left in twenty um

Two thousand and eight. And then by twenty twelve I was doing Parks and Racket. Okay, d I don't I think I have to I have to go back and do it again because th I had walking ammonia. I was like under a lot of pressure and doing a lot and I was shooting one of the Hunger Games movies. I was shooting, I think, the second one while doing all of this campaign. And I would have to like fly, go to a party, shake hands.

and then land and, you know, shoot. Like, poor me. Um, but I was very tired. And so I think I was just I remember I was also at that bad age. I don't know if other people were like this at this age, but

Where like, you know, when you get the you get asked, like, can you do any impressions or anything? And I was like, No. Yeah. You know, like I don't want to be like, and I can do this and I can do that. I just kind of made everything like everybody else's problem. I was like, I don't know how to do that. I can't do that. Totally. I know. And it and also I mean I it's it's hard to be

young and on that show. It's just hard. But your relationship to comedy, what is it like now? Do you want to make more, do more, direct more, write more? I would love I I wrote a comedy. You did? And I would love to direct it and I'll star in it. Oh my Thank you. No hard feelings was great. You were hilarious in it. Thank you. Such a good movie. Well, I did not write and direct that one.

Um although I guess I could tell people that I did. I always could. People don't they don't pay attention. Um after I wrote and directed No Hard Feelings, I it really got me thinking

But thank you. I I had a lot of fun doing it. Mm-hmm. And you want to direct as well. Yeah. Yeah. Right on. Yeah. Great. I mean everybody does, you know. I don't think that's true. Like I feel sometimes people are not into it, but I feel like I mean, are you finding that like having worked now and done a lot of stuff now that you're realizing like, oh, I want more control and what I

what I do and how I like to work. But I also I had my first movie ever was a female director. And then I I actually ended up working with m more female directors than m male directors. So as a teenager it was like really like Not formidable. Formidable? For Yeah, form formidable. Formidable. It was um it was a form farming culture for me. So that made me like realize why I gotta get this word. It's formidable. No, it's like formative. Formative. Informative?

It's a formative formative experience. Formative. Is that what it is? Formative? Yeah, here we go. Formative Something that relates to formation or development is shaping and influencing something else. That is precisely what I mean. Yeah, we did it. Yeah. Um so it was formative. That I realized that that was even like possible for me to do. So I had wanted to do it since I was a teenager. So then when I went into movies in like my twenties and now, yeah, I always tell the director.

And then they include me in the a a lot of them have been really nice and like included me in the process and let me see like post and all that stuff. What is what's important for you when you work? Like what what's the thing you like to do? For example, like do you feel like once I'm on set I wanna

escape and just like dive in and I want some other people to handle the stuff. Do you like to Do you like the logistics of the w Oh, I do like the logistics. Like you like a call sheet and you like knowing what's gonna happen. But I think that's like a that's a woman's brain. Yeah. You know? It's just it's really

My producing partner and I have been on sets together since we were 21 and we fuck up a call sheet. I mean, we and when I have like a friend that's gonna go do something, I'm like, send me your call sheet. I'll get you two days. Um, we just know how to make it make sense. We it's it's divine. Okay. So I like the logistics. I also I need to connect and have friends immediately. Like I gotta dive in and find, you know. the camera guys. The po like I gotta find like who my, you know, people

Which is not a photo shoot. Right. Photo shoot. I don't want you to talk to me. I just want I just want to totally agree. I I just want it to be over as fast as possible. And it's just all of it's so embarrassing, you know, like put your hand like this. Ha ha ha. Or if you're considered a funny person, the worst part is they're like we have a bunch of props. Oh no. We have clown shoes for you, you fucking clown. Put put on the shoes, you fucking clown.

But it's so true. I mean I've been in many shoes where like a chill goes down your spine. Just it's always a whisper. There's a bunch of fun props. If you want to play with them in any look over and you're like, Oh no, it's like a giant lollipop and a rubber chicken. Yeah, like that's not gonna come naturally to me. Like if you want me to pull on the rubber chicken, I will, but you have to direct me

to pull one. And the other thing is like we have a really fun idea. You have all this barbecue sauce on your face. Like it's always it's always like we're going to humiliate you. Yeah. And you're gonna just You're gonna smile your way through it. You're s you're such a good time. Right. Oh, okay. No, mine aren't that bad. I'm kind of shocked to hear that I mean you well

I'm not shocked. I mean obviously. They're just like, we were thinking you wouldn't wear a bra for this and I'm like, I've had two children. And they're like, no. They're like, but maybe You want me to show you something? Come here. I'm gonna show you something. All your pictures are you just flashing? Uh yeah.

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Because a good hang, we're always looking for a good hang. I have questions I want to ask you. I want your opinion about things. Oh, okay. I want your hot takes. Okay. Oh yeah. No problemo. I know you like to give hot takes. Yeah. And I want and these are important things. Okay.

I gotta take it easy on the housewives though. I always get I get like Okay, I'm gonna tell you something but I don't know that much about Housewives. Okay, no, no, no, it's fine. I mean that's good. I But you like below deck. Yeah, I do. First question. If you were on below deck, what would you want your job to be? Which which of the jobs? Chief stew? I well no.

No, I would go into that laundry and I'd fuck that laundry up. I'd put a podcast in, I'd steam, I'd fold, I'd have a system. I'd have a color coded system. I don't even mean people never want to go down into the laundry on below deck and it's like, why? You don't have to talk to any of the people. You're there by yourself. Yeah, I'm alone. And again, I would put one ear pod in. I'd listen to some murder and I'd just fucking fuck that shit up. It makes sense. Yeah. And also doing like

Doing turn down would be one of the most satisfying thing, getting the lines in the vacuum perfectly. Do you have like are you a earth sign? What's your wha what w you've got like a um I'm a Leo. Oh, so okay. So you've got you but you have a lot of grounded you like organizing. You like straight things. Straight is your house neat? Well Hm. I mean, my if you look at my bedside table and then you look at my husband's bedside table, mine is an explosion.

everywhere. I mean I look like I'm dying. Like what's what is her malady? And my husband's like just a bottle of water. Yeah. Um Okay, but you like But I do I I get I get a satisfied once it's like time to clean up. Mm you like a good you good like a good system. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me. And then okay, another question is do you have a nickname? Sloughton nitro boobs. Boobs Lawrence, the full government name. Um

Nitro. Yeah. What where did nitro come from? My brothers, because I was really hyper and they called me nitro. Um, I love that you owe Oh, and my friends call me Ken from the Barbie movie because I'm just Ken. I think it's their way of calling me stupid. And so whenever I ask something stupid, they're like, She's just Ken

Um, your you have two older brothers. Yeah. And what was it like growing up like with older brothers? What do you feel like there's a thing that happens to like what's the good part about having two older brothers? Is there one? Um there I mean uh ooh I I mean, they were great. They were really protective. You know, not with themselves. They're like, you know. I mean, did it make you like tough? Yeah, I think it made me tough.

As the mother of sons, I will say, and you're you're gonna eventually notice this too, because you had brothers, the way boys and young boys talk to each other won't be as shocking. Like you're you're gonna get used to it. No in fact I find myself doing

I do too. And that's kind of a love language. Like I Yeah. When I've noticed the way that you interact with people that you work with, it also feels like you turn people into brothers. Like it feels like I think I do Josh Hutcherson was a brother. It feels like Robert Pattinson feels like a brother. Like Yeah. Oh, you're so right. Okay, um Doritos, your opinion? Love'em. Me too.

I mean, but now I'm like older and I'm like think about like what in it. I mean not if I'm like on a plane. If I'm on a plane and I see him I'm gonna I don't his reading is gonna get eight, but Yeah. But I do think about it more. Okay. Do you do any impressions? No. Do I?

No, I don't think so. Mm. I feel like I've seen you do um I feel like I've seen you do um Who do I do? Real housewives impressions, but no. I have to text her. Or do you want to do the game that we do we do we do this game at SNL, which is it's like you like do it or die and it's basically Um, you don't have to do it and we can cut it, but it's really fun to play and you can do it to me too. Would you just give someone uh

A name and they have to do it, I have to do an impression in ten seconds. It's doesn't have to be good. Right. Okay. But if you don't do it, you'll die. Okay. Okay. You ready? And Robert Janeiro. You did die! Me? That's I would love to see a recut version of him not saying, Are you talking to me? but just going me? I mean I there's I I w what what's the coldest day you've ever had on set and the hottest day you've ever had on set? Coldest was

Uh, I mean, I know like the real answer was like, you know, one of the Hunger Games movies where it was like on a frozen lake, but it was actually in Calgary doing Die My Love because it was August. So it was supposed to be warm. And so there wasn't like there weren't like warming coats or anything and I you know, I'm just in like a t shirt or whatever. And so that was

The coldest. That that like broke my heart, like made me want to cry. This proves my theory that Marty Short you did cry because you were so cold. Yeah. Yeah. Um this proves my theory that I said to Marty Short, like c it's never warm in Canada. Never. And it's always fucking freezing and it's freezing in August always. And Canadians pretend like, Oh, we had a really nice day and it's like you did not have a nice day. Oh no, you were very cold. It's really cold.

Um when you're cold and you cry on set in the I didn't cry on set. I cried in my trailer to Justine. She was like, What's wrong? And I was like, I'm just feeling really cold. But I was pregnant and I just remembered. Yeah. Yeah, of course I cried. I probably cried every day. Yeah, that movie seems like there was a lot of tears. Fuck, that's fun. It was fun to like play somebody that's fun. But you have to do some stuff, man. You have to go for it in some movies that I'm like, this is hard.

Screaming all day, crying all day. All day. Woo! Hard, but you're so blessed. I'm blessed. Um Me? A hot blessed. I'm talking a last one over here. Hottest day on set. Hottest day on set. Hottest time you've like you remember working and it was really hot. The no, I know what you mean. Um I answered the first one. I obviously get the the con put the context together.

Ironic. I think it was the first Hunger Games. Yeah, the first Hunger Games we were shooting in uh North Carolina. It was humid and we had those jackets on. Oh yeah. And you had to run in those jackets. And running in the jackets, yeah. Speaking of running, I feel like uh my next question, like I what I love about you is how you don't feel like you're competitive with other actresses and you really wish for other people's success. But in a foot race, who would win between you?

And Emma Stone. She's got like really tiny bones. And I I just have very thick bones. Um so what does that mean for running? That's hard to know.'Cause I guess it's smaller, thinner bones. You might be faster out of the gate. I think I think if I like got a clock in, I'd knock her out in like two seconds. No offense, Emma, if you're listening, but uh there's you would definitely no I could knock her out with my pants. Take her out. If it was like a fight or a wrestle, she'd done.

Me. Um, but running, I don't know because I don't know if her hollow bones give her an advantage. Yeah. Karaoke, what's your what what's your go to? Any man of mine, Shania Twain. Hmm. This one here. I don't know that one. This this is where your Kentucky comes in. Oh. Any man of mine. Yeah. I still don't know this. Woo! But you take it, right? Do you do the woo? Yeah, of course. This is what I want to watch.

Any man of mine better be fried up man even when I'm ugly, he still better love me. And I can be late for a date, that's fine, but he better be on time. Woo! Say it better. Okay when I had a bad hair day. And if I change my mind a million times, I wanna hear him say yeah. Oh my god, you're good. I know, really good. Very good. I love karaoke too. Yeah. And I'm on key. You were on key. Yeah. Did you ever say did you ever you're a good singer? No.

That's not true. I just heard it. I just heard I know you did. I we heard it. Okay, anyway, moving on. All right, all right. Um uh have you ever been awarded a middle or high school superlative? Middle school or high school superlative. Most talkative. Two years in a row. Third year I had left. I was in New York, you gotta get I Yeah Chalked my way right out of the building. Most talkative. Yeah. Most talkative and most for me and the three that were like cousins were talkative

Um, like class clown and mischievous. Like they all were like together. We didn't have those. We had talkative best smile because I remember be not getting that one. Um You were going for that one. And like oh no, I was going for Miss Camera. Miss what? Miss Cammer. Camer's the name of the school. This is like the roller. The merger. Miss Camera. Camera middle school was the name. K A M M E R E R Camera Middle School.

That's where I went to school. Okay. Um, we kind of went over this already. Horses, yes or no? Yes. Okay. Um Do you do that crazy thing where you insist on doing your own stunt? No. And have you ever I feel like okay great. Keep that up. Okay. Um Best album or song of the year. What are you listening to that you love? Oh, I don't know any current music. I once they got rid of the radio, I really I didn't know I mean how am I supposed to know what's coming out? I just have my phone.

But what part of my phone? My phone has podcast I mean, play too. Do you not listen to to not I don't listen to like you don't do how do you listen to live music on your phone? Honestly, I usually learn about new music. from Instagram or TikTok that I then go and buy. The Lily Allen I don't know when this podcast is coming out in the future, but the Lily Al Allen album dropped a couple of weeks ago and woo oh I love it.

So good. Yeah. So good. I didn't know it was a pussy palace. And um an um monogamami. Monagamami. So good. So good. Yeah. And tennis. Tennis might be my favorite part from the album. So so talent. She's so talented. I feel like this I f I was just saying to someone, like I feel like the pop stars, like they're just the female pop stars like they're just

Dominating in every area. I know Charlie XDX. I know. So cool. I know. Do you know her? I feel like you guys would hang out. I don't know her. I mean I'd Would she hang out with me? I don't know. I don't know. I wish Okay, so let me talk about um your movie Die My Love, which looks amazing and you once again like

You're uh if I haven't made it clear, you're so good at acting. Thank you very much. That's really, really nice. And you really are doing the thing you're meant to do. Thank you. Yeah. And do you feel that? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Do you feel like was there ever a time when you thought I there there's anything else I would want to do? It just feels like Every time I'm on a press store. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. It it just doesn't feel con like how does anybody like that? Yeah. But do you feel like when you get on set, do you feel or when you're work when you're really in the work, you feel super relaxed? Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's like it's hard and you're tired and you know, you'd rather be like home. Yeah.

But um But you're interested in yeah, so this process seemed really cool. Like Lynn and you and Robert seemed like you guys. Lynn Ramsey the director, it seemed like you three had some kind of way of working that seemed really creative and cool. Was that true? Yeah. It was cool. Cause Lynn and I talked about it for like years before we like really had a script. So I felt like

We had had so many conversations like about this person and about her circumstances that by the time we got there, there was just like a lot of freedom. But it was like kind of scary, you know, like uh like an improv type of situation where it's just like go. Yeah. It's kind of like, under what terms? And these circumstances. But um but it was really, really fulfilling. I was like

challenging in a nice way. And you're playing somebody who's kind of like descending into madness. Mm-hmm. And do you tr when you when you're playing something like that, do you track You know, uh you are you always trying to figure out like where is she at in this scene? Like w how far is she gone?

kind of. I thought that I was gonna have to do that a little bit more, but it ended up just being like finding the truth of what she was saying, like in the moment, which I think sometimes it didn't end up being as Um I don't like crazy as I thought. But the costumes helped with that because I think they like move from a different place. And so they at first she dresses really differently and sticks out.

And then as she stays there, she starts to blend in with the community. And so that was a good way that I could mark kind of like where the head my head space would be. That's a that's a very cool idea. Right. That you're realizing I'm wearing this this pair of pants which reminds me that I'm in this eight months. And it's kinda getting back full circle to what we're talking about about clothes. Like I do feel like clothes like

There are certain outfits, for example, that I wore during COVID that I cannot wear again because it's what they just Oh, because of COVID. Oh, it's like when you wear like work pants and then they get ruined because they're work pants. Or you get broken up with in a shirt and you can never wear it again. Like Clothes hold some memory.

Get them right out of there. You gotta get him out of there. Yeah. Um, okay, we've mentioned your producing partner, Justine, a few times. We have? You have. You've mentioned her twice. Oh my god. Yeah. And she's like your best. like a really longtime friend, tell us about her. She's yeah, my best friend. Um we met Right after I did Winter's Bone, so I was nineteen. Um and we fell in love with movies. We we

like read together. We like discovered Walt Whitman together. Um so it was like so we like I think our like consciousness like woke up together and and we were like and she was always like She was my like roommate when I started getting really famous and she was really I think I credit her a lot with like why I didn't start kinda getting too big for my britches or anything'cause everything was really real with her and um and she's just I'm really lucky to have her. I feel really um

I love her a lot. I feel loved by her. I trust her completely. I d trust her taste. She's also a really hard worker. She likes hard work. Mm-hmm. So um yeah, I'm really lucky. I wouldn't normally recommend working with friends, but in our case.

worked out nice. You guys started a production company, excellent cadaver. Yeah. You produced about six or seven years ago. A bunch y you've been working together for a long time and your company's produced a a m bunch of amazing films, including Causeway, which

I think was one of my most favorite things I've ever seen you do. I guess that movie. Thank you. So good. Thanks. Um, for people who haven't seen it, check it out. It's you and Brian Tyree Henry. Brian Tyree Henry, incredible um from Atlanta and many other things, incredible actor. And you two play vets who are kind of physically and spiritually struggling. Um and back home and it's such it's a little bit.

Such a good and Lila is an amazing director. Lila Newgebauer. It was her first film, but she's a big theater director and she's great. Sorry, that inside of my ear is itching is this gross. No, but you know itchy ears are a sign of perimenopause, so congrats. Congrats, baby. Oh no, we'll double that. We're gonna make it really loud. Yeah. It's just like the preview. We're gonna we're gonna

underline it with all. You're with perimenopause sufferer, Jennifer Lawrence. I always thought that would be a good drag name, by the way, is perimenopause. Oh, it is. That really is. But anyway, we talked to Justine. You did? Yes. Oh. Because we do this thing where we have people

talk about our guests and like talk well behind their back and give me a question to ask them. And I talked to Justine today. I should have kno I listened to this podcast. I don't know why I'm so like beside my I'm surprised. What did she say? She had a really good question I thought, which was basically like What do you want to talk about? She was like, Ask Jen what she wants to talk about and what she's sick of talking about.

Oh, which I thought was I know. I thought that was a good friend question. I'm sick of talking about the movie. Yeah, great. Um we won't we're gonna cut it out. And I want to talk about What have we not talked about that you want to talk about? Oh, I think we've covered I've we've talked about things that I would have never known that I wanted to talk about that I wanted to talk about. Yeah. So I don't I can't answer it. Okay. Okay. Well

What do you listen to, watch? What do you what makes you laugh? How do you get yourself up up the elevator? Well, you make me laugh. Thank you. Um, you're on my algorithm a lot and you and Tina. Um and you guys hosted a Golden Globes that I was at, and you were the funniest people I've ever seen in my life. You made me proud to be a woman. Was that when we said that um American Hustle was The title of the title at the Wig Factory.

Yeah. But what okay, but what do you listen to, read, watch, who makes you laugh? Um I watch V. Oh yeah. So uh w we interviewed Julia. Recently. You did? Mm-hmm. I I called her the LeBron James of comedy. She's won so many championships with different teams and she rejected that. She wouldn't she wouldn't accept that title. That's so her. I mean, what if she was like, thank you, I know. Um

Yeah, she's a she's a hero of mine. Um I love modern family. Um Are you like a true millennial and you watch things that you've watched before just to like go to sleep? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm Gen Z and I I don't know what they do. And you just love your clothes online. Kiss your robot and sell your clothes. Yeah, yeah. Well, um I mean I feel like we covered so much good stuff. Yeah. I feel great about this interview. I do too. I can't wait for it to come out.

I'm gonna be the first to watch it. Last question is I know you do like a lot of reality TV. What show would you wanna be on of all of them? Well, I I mean want to be on the I guess the Kardashians.'Cause then I'd be like on a private plane going to like Fiji. Like That's true for a'cause the other ones like they're not

Yeah, like there's no comfort. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Maybe maybe yeah,'cause you just mentioned amazing race and I feel like sometimes there's like a little part of me that thinks I would. I tried to go on bare girls. You did? Why? Why did he let you? No. I what happened was I was like I was determined to do it.

Um, I ended up getting pregnant. Uh and I but I was still gonna do it. And then I texted my OBGY and I was like, Hey, so I'm gonna be doing bare grails on like the seventeenth. Is there anything I should like tell them? And he was like, You're not doing that I was like, oh and then I just after Do you know the show Alone? Have you are you aware of it? I love Alone. Oh my god. Building the the fortresses, building the cabins.

Ugh. Isn't building the houses isn't that the part that you want to do the most? And if I may. The amount of energy that people build on their houses is fascinating. Cause some people you're like, you're gonna get r way too tired. This house is too nice. Yeah, they're burning a lot of calories. Burning a lot of calories. Yeah. Other people, it's like, You're sleeping under a a tarp for six weeks? Yeah. Like you gotta get your house together. Like what's wrong with you? I know.

The in between of that is fascinating to me. Yeah. The bugs. It was really satisfying when you're a a guy, white man, didn't um bring a fire starter because he was just like, I can do it. I saw that one. That was really good. Then they change Schadenfreud, if you will. I also love the men that are that come on really strong and immediately like twist an ankle. Yeah. I do that. Or oh, the other thing that takes them down, their stomach.

I'm surprised that they don't have them just go with Cypro. That like Cypro isn't just like in there. Maybe they do. Maybe they do I don't think they do. It doesn't seem like they do. The the di diarrhea is a good thing. They get diarrhea immediately. Immediately. I need diarrhea immediately. But they um and and men are just they cannot handle when they when they don't feel good, they just everything falls the fuck apart. So they're just like, I don't feel good. And you're like

Celia dude. And the women are just weaving baskets and staying there for a hundred days. Yeah. Anyway, Jennifer Lawrence. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Thank you for spending time here today. I think I've if any I've overstayed my welcome. If you want any food from the back- What if I just grabbed your favorite? I just grabbed the soup topic and was like, thank you, boys.

Thank you so much, Jennifer Lawrence. That was so fun. And um, and uh, thanks for being here. And you know, for this polar plunge. I always like to dig a little deeper on something that we spoke of in the podcast. And I would just highly recommend that you watch Causeway. It's such a great film. Jennifer's so good in it. Brian Tyree Henry is so good in it, an incredible actor, um, directed by Lila Neugebauer and it's just really, really good. Um it's just a I don't know.

I just loved it. I think you will too. Check it out. Thank you for listening. Please come back soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen. Analea Zenares. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.