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Two games on the schedule.

First up Utah Royals at Racing Louisville at seven thirty pm Eastern. That'll be available on NWSL Plus, Paramount Plus and CBS Sports Galazzo. Then at ten pm Eastern, we've got a prime video showdown between the San Diego Wave and Seattle Rain. Five more contests over the course the weekend as well, so we'll link to the NWSL schedule in our show notes. More footy our show side. Minnesota Aurora FC is still undefeated. The squad is four to oh this season after a four nail victory over the

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The first game on the schedule Saturday is The Talents Versus the bandits up in Rosemont, Illinois. That one starts at three Eastern on MLB dot Com, MLBtv, and the MLB app No subscription required. Its Eastern The Volts play the Blaze in Wichita, Kansas. Catch that game airing live on MLB Network and on MLBtv. Lots more AUSL chatter coming up later in the show with the Great Jenny Fitch. Slices want to let you know the flights are booked

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She's one of the greatest softball players of all time, in a National Softball Hall of Famer, an advisor for the upcoming inaugural season of Athletes and Limited Softball League the AUSL. She was a collegiate All American, helping the Arizona Wildcats win the two thousand and one Women's College World Series, a member of the US national team that won gold at the two thousand and four Olympics in

League from five to twenty ten.

We've seen around the Real Housewives of Orange County, dancing with the stars and famously striking out the world's best Major League baseball players.

It's Jenny Bench Hi, Jenny.

Hey Sarah, how are you.

I'm good. Thank you so much for joining us.

I am so excited to talk all things AUSL.

Because we are finally here. We've been hearing about this league.

But this weekend in my hometown of Chicago, I'm helping throw a big bash to celebrate the start of the league on Friday night and then Saturday the action begins. So tell us a little bit about what you've been working on when it comes to being an advisor for the league.

Yeah. Absolutely, we couldn't be more excited for our score.

I feel like now's the time we have all hands on deck and it's going to be exciting. Yeah, and I can't wait to join you in Chicago. What in two days? Crazy up here before we know it.

So yeah.

So my main role has been kind of just building the league from the ground up over the under the direction of Kimming, with the other advisors as well, cat Offhanjus Windows and Natasha Wattley and so just kind of figuring out I mean, building a league from the ground up. It's a huge, huge, enormous project and we couldn't be under better leadership. And it's just a matter of you know, finding the general managers. We did a ton of interviews and then head coaches, because who do we want.

In these roles leading our league?

And there's only fourteens, and I think that was the hardest part, was narrowing it down until only four, which I hope this is the only beginning, and we plan to expand hopefully next summer. But yeah, and just how many games and the whole world, what cities do we play in? And so a lot of decisions were made in a short period of time. But I think for the first time ever, we have everyone working in the same direction, and I think that's what excites me the most.

We had Jessica Mendoza on last weekend. She said the same thing. She just kept saying, it's just everyone together. We have everyone in the same place together, working toward the same thing. It reminds me a little bit of the PWHL, which is this incredible hockey league that now has all the best stars in one place instead of these disparate leagues that are trying to pull people all with great intention, but it's obviously so much better when

Where are the game is going to be? How many games? And how did the playoffs?

So there's ten different cities.

Actually we're coming They're going to come to sulf for Louisiana, which is their hometown, so really excited, and ten ten cities again, like how do you pick into ten cities for our sport.

To go in?

But Chicago, Wichita, Round Rock and then the championship series will be in Tuscaloosa in Alabama. And so I believe it's twenty four games, all televised on major networks ESPN, MLB Network, which is really really exciting, and MLB dot Com just announced that they are opening it up for completely free for viewerships to be able to tune in and all of the games will be broadcasted there.

So just really really excited for just.

The platform that we'll have now, and we've had leagues, but there was the consistency was never there, and so how do you follow? And I think our biggest hurdle in the past fifteen years was the.

College game is at its all time high.

It just continues to increase year after year after year, and we've never been able to kind of bridge that gap from the college game to the pro league. And so now being able to broadcast these games on TV, you know, fans will actually get to know the players, and they'll have a team to get behind, a mascot

Yeah, I feel pretty good about the chances that Chicago Bandits will be the team that the Bandits become, based on the fact that they very smartly use the sort of light blue and red from the Chicago flag, the star, all the things that we loved about the Chicago Red Stars logo, which they changed when they became the Chicago Stars. So the Bandits are giving us back team to root for that has the elements of the flag and the

I feel pretty good about that one.

You mentioned twenty four games per team, so forty eight games total for the fourteen league in this first season and then a best of three championship series in Tescalosa on June twenty sixth through twenty eighth, So lots to look forward to, lots of games to watch.

You know, as a.

Player in an earlier iteration of professional softball, you have firsthand knowledge of what's been lacking and what was the.

Next step for this sport.

What did you suggest to athletes unlimited in some of those meetings. What are some of the most important resources, amenities, priorities for players that you insisted that they have in this new league.

Well, I think you know, and honestly, playing in Chicago it was such a dream and my first call was to the owners of the Chicago Bandits from way back when, and just with a huge heart of gratitude and appreciation because they did it. When I mean it's never going to be easy, but man, like, they gave us a

Health insurance, training funding like this stuff was.

You know, we didn't even have walker rooms. We were using the same restrooms as the fans pretty much. And so just to see how far we've come. And then obviously Athletes Unlimited has had success in the past, but it was sixty athletes and they were in Chicago, and then every week they would rotate teams. The top four athletes according to their point system would then be the

Playing against that person. And so kudos to what they've done.

And we will still have the championship series at the end of the summer, and those will be the top athletes from the league, the top right right to play in that, which will be super exciting, and and they'll be you know, repping their team, and then the players

You mentioned that you called the owners of the Chicago Bandits.

What did you want to ask them?

What did you want to get from them as you were trying to help build this league.

Mainly it was just just showing gratitude and appreciation, and you know, we were super close and still are super close, but it was just kind of showing my respect and letting them know that we would not be in this

We're finally here.

And I think, you know, obviously bringing Kim ing on was just that next step of Okay, this is legit. Her MLB background of being a general manager. It's just you know, you can't compare to her leadership, her knowledge, her experiences that she has, and then to be able to bring that over on our side, we're extremely, extremely blessed to have her.

Yeah.

I love that sort of looking back and saying, now that I'm putting together a league, Wow, do I understand what y'all did for us when you put together those initial leagues and then looking forward and saying, what does it look like if we put in place this incredibly successful MLB exec who has bigger budgets, bigger investments, bigger resources, and how does that affect the choices we make here and how big our swings are here? You mentioned Kim

I think just her.

Consistency and relatability at the same time being who she is and what she's done and accomplished.

And I think her her.

Passion and she's just she's very even keel And it hasn't been easy, you know, signing athletes and trying to get them to buy in and be on board because it is it is all new for everybody across the board, and so just really thankful of who she is and how she goes about her business and her professionalism that she brings on so many levels.

And I think to the people.

She knows as well, and it's not we have to try it out. You know, she's been there, She's seen what works, what doesn't work, and how to manage. And I think I love the mentorship of her with our general managers as well. So our four general managers have her on speed dial and have access to her to help lead their ball clubs as well in this.

So just really really cool support system. I think on so many levels that she brings.

Yeah, we'll talk about those gims in a second, but I want to first talk about the other folks she has on her speed dow, which is a lot of people at MLB. And last week we saw the announcement about the huge MLB investment into the AUSL, an incredibly exciting development. What does that partnership mean for AUSL and Pro Softball? The first time MLB has ever invested in this way in a professional softball league.

It's a historical, monumental moment movement for us and couldn't be more thankful for Major League Baseball stepping up to the plate and not just saying yes, we support it,

They're sharing their platforms.

My feeds are just insane on Emibe Network, MLB dot Com. I mean, they are truly all hands on deck. And I love it too because the writers truly have a passion and care about AUSL and the players, and that's that's what we need.

We need to build stars.

We need to be able to tell their stories and showcase who they are, what they do and how great they do it, and just start building those connections with and I think, obviously we have softball fans on deck, but we need a wider, broader audience. We need we need mainstream America to back this and to be behind it and know the superstars of the AUSL.

Obviously such a great product that's been so clear across the college landscape and even at the pros the people who get into it know. But being able to have a whole brand new, giant audience to tune in and be introduced to it in this way through the MLB is really great. I need to ask, what's the dog's name? The dog made a little appearance with a little bark in his no. I was hoping he wasn't in the no he is, and I'm loving it. To be honest with you, I'm a huge dog person.

This is Frankie.

Hi, Frankie.

I appreciate that he literally just came up and sat next to you, like I would like to be involved in this interview.

Thank you very much. Ask me my opinion.

You mentioned the GMS legendary names like kat Osterman and Lisa Fernandez are among the first four. How important is it to have those former players in decision making positions alongside you? Mentioned the incredible ambassadors that were called in some of the best of the best to ever play. This is something Athletes Unlimited is known for. They go to the athletes. They go to the players even while they're currently playing, and say, what do you want, what

Yeah, and I truly think it's it's for the athlete, by the athlete. They've done such and honestly, I was skeptical at the beginning and I kind of I supported it, but I wasn't ready to jump on board. And then you know, just asking the athlete, Hey, what's your experience, like, like what you know? How is Athletes Unlimited? Everything I heard was nothing but positive feedback, and they truly do

And then I think built by athletes.

And we had coaches, and we had great coaches, but these athletes all came from the best programs in the country. And my goal, our goal as advisors was, like I wanted them to step foot in pro softball and then get the next level to then.

Elevate their game. And I think that's what we've never had, is I mean.

We're peaking in college basically, and then after that it's just trying to like sustain and you're you're trying to get access to coaches and and now with technology and and you know, and it was it was difficult because obviously the best coaches have programs that they have to run, so that for them to then to summer out like

And I'm so thankful for our group that did because they are bar none.

And I think that's what excites me the most is for the athletes to now be able to then elevate their game even greater and take it to the next level. And talking to some of the athletes just you know, as they reported last week, they're they're really really excited to pick the brains.

And I think, you know, being a former player, that was something that.

I loved was getting to sit down and talk the game with my teammates. Honestly, like the USA Softball bullpen was like golden for me because we shared information, we helped each other, we were you know, working, and it was the best of the best.

Like iron sharpens iron.

And that's what this pro league will have with the leadership that it's under, the coaching that it's under, and then to be able to have the technology and you know, everything at their team, at.

Their disposing your kiah to be a success and to be the best that they can be. So and I think even thinking down the road even more for me, I.

Think about USA Softball and this is the training ground for the Olympics twenty twenty eight will be here before we know it. And now we have the best in our sport, the best in our country playing against each other, and so truly like this is this is the path And you know, I know coach Gasso and the entire USA staff is going to be looking at these athletes and you know, we never had that. It was only one or two events that the USA played in and that was what we had to go off for the summer.

Facing the best. This is the best of the best, So you're facing the best.

All summer long now, So come twenty twenty eight, they're gonna they're gonna be ready.

I love that.

Yeah. I wonder you're around all these great folks, both in the ambassador room and as you're prepping for this league. How often has one or the other of you said, man, if only I was still playing, or man, I would have loved this when I was playing.

I know, I just really like go spend some times in the time in the bullpen now.

With just the technology and it's it's it's why. And I feel like every week there's something new, you know. And obviously there's that balance of being an out that you have to kind of I think to the challenge of the athletes today are like limiting and figuring out what information you need and then protecting and dismissing the information that you know is too much.

But it's just so so cool just to.

See the depth and what these athletes have and to see them work and shine. And I'm looking forward to, you know, seeing them play Saturday in Chicago opening day and getting the follow them all season.

Yeah, it's been There's been a lot of that across women's sports of late, and it is both so exciting and bittersweet to hear the ones who made the sports say I'm so I feel great about opening up these doors for the next generation. I feel great about being partly responsible for the money they're making and the endorsements they're getting and the TV deals that are happening. And also how cool would it have been to be able to participate and do all these cool things that they're

That would have been cool when I was around.

You mentioned this weekend, we got a party, a brunch, we got games. Tell us a little bit what opening weekend for the AOSL is going to look like.

Yeah, so Friday night are having just to get together and I think a celebration of where we're at and what's to come. Looking forward to that and seeing some old bandits that were coming in in Chicago, and I think the leaders in our game, in our sport, the gms, the head coaches, everybody will be there ready to go, and so looking forward to that.

And then Kim Ang's doing I think donuts and.

Something maybe yess how did I not?

I failed on that one, but it was so cool.

Not to repeat that, but dont and dinners with kim A and then the game. And so we'll be at the game in Chicago in Rosemond. What a cool stadium and everything that they've built there. So just that can be more grateful for the city of Rosemont because they've really truly backed our score for the last ten years.

Yeah, for those who don't know, right outside Chicago, and the stadium is on Jenny Finch Way. So that was actually a trivia question at a trivia night I was at a couple months ago, and I was like, I know this one, don't even I know what street. It's uneven.

A couple of.

Things before we go.

At least one player in the league is still competing in the College World Series, which is going to wrap up either Thursday or Friday. Have any idea when they'll be joining things and how they'll be incorporated into the league.

I don't, I don't. I know. It's been so exciting.

I mean not exciting that they've lost out the ones that have twelve golden tickets. We're just really really cool being able to go into their college programs atmosphere fan bases and celebrate them and give them the golden ticket to be drafted to AUSL. But then you know, we still have to sign them, and so you don't really know for sure if they're going to be committed. So just today Sam Landry is signed as a Bolt, and so that's one more check in the box.

But yeah, who knows. I don't know.

Hopefully, I'm sure as soon as possible, But then again, I'm sure they want to go back and celebrate and have a day or two, so I'm assuming within the next week hopefully.

I'll tell you what, for those players whose college careers are done and they're heartbroken to not be walking away with a World Series title, there is a nice little bonus if what's next for them is signing a professional contract and getting to start in this new league. It's much better than looking out into the professional landscape and having to get a real damn job. Last question for

Like the player who's pitch they're recreating.

It looks like it's coming off the player's hand instead of just a pitch machine.

And how different that is.

What have you seen in the softball world that you're like, Man, my game would have been different if I had this back then.

Honestly, I would just be the training aspect of it for me, like in the.

Weight room, because we were just doing I mean with the knowledge that we had.

I mean, I think we were advanced at that point, and coach Candrea did such an incredible job with the Olympic team, and you know, reaching out and we saw the tiatrist, we saw you know, optometris, like everything and anything that we needed, but we're still so far behind.

And so now just I.

Think and even like nutrition was like we had no clue and it was terrible, honestly, our diets, and so I think just now even with like supplements and everything, and then and then again obviously technique, and I mean I think just you can see the spin rate, you can see.

You know, the tunnel, the you know, the inages of movement.

It's just it's insane, insane how much information and the tools and it just keeps continuing and it's so fast.

But I think about that a lot, Like in college, we didn't do foam rolling and yoga and pilates and cryo and any of that stuff. We didn't even watch that much tape of what we were doing, and especially in track like field events, where it's like the position of your leg or your arm matter so much, and we like never looked and watched it. And now you could tape every single practice and every single game and

Yeah, absolutely, thank you.

Thanks again to Jenny for taking the time, and make sure you tune into the first AUSL games on Saturday. We had to take another break. When we return, we received a strongly worded email and we have a strongly worded response.

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There's a Laces in the three on three offseason league called Unrivaled and they have a really cool logo.

And where are they from?

So Unrivaled is everybody just goes to Miami for eight weeks and plays against each other.

So they're not affiliated with cities yet, though.

The belief is that they might keep getting more popular and then spin often try to get owners to buy and put them in cities to sort of.

Like an off season league. That's very cool.

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There you go. And by the way, I was listening to a previous Good Game episode where you talked about an WNBA fan at the announcement of a new pope. So an actual nun.

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Yeah.

First of all, I'm from Chicago, so my phone has not stopped blowing up with memes about the Chicago Pope.

We will never shut up about this.

Other than New York, we were the last place you should have delivered my history making.

We got Obama, we got Peyton, we got Jordan, and now we've got du Pope.

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He wants us to gamble.

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We finish up with a couple of w NBA players so teams uh and some of these are present play current players, some are past legends. This is a woodwind instrument owned by a former New York Liberty star. Rebecca is her first name. These are all last names.

Yes, I was a I was a clarinet player, but I am familiar with the woodwinds.

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That's right, Lobo's Obo exactly. And I know, Greg, I have been wanting to talk about the Liberty, so I'm giving you there we go.

I was listening to your you know your your sort of pre season warm up episode, and I'm psyched for the Liberty. I have to say, I feel like Natasha Cloud might even be an upgrade from Courtney Vanderslout.

Yeah, different style, but defensively very different body type, much taller. Slute is such a great facilitator though, it'll be interesting in terms of just a steadying president who sets up the offense. But Natasha, as the kids would say, she's got riz anything else. She is bringing personality and excitement to a team that already has plenty.

And her girlfriend is on the team too. That was a very little bit of tea you shared.

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You know, we talk about that a lot aj that one thing people really are sleeping on in women's sports is that they're sleeping together, and that that is a very fun twist. And oftentimes announcers who don't quite know say, what great sportsmanship that those two opponents are so kind to each other, and we're like.

They're together, right.

But no, But in the p WHL, which is women's hockey, in the WNBA, in the NWSL, in all these leagues, there are these great stories in back Courtney vandersluteho he just mentioned who used to be on the Liberty came back to my Chicago Sky where she used to play with her wife, and her wife was the one who she assisted on a three and it helped her break a record.

How can you that's so interesting?

Now?

We don't know that it's never happened in men's sports, We don't totally, we don't know. I imagine it surely has, but it's you know.

We don't get the fun of being nosy about it though, So where's the fun in that?

No fun, no fun at all? All right?

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This is someone who I accidentally called Britney Briner the other day, and I decided should be a nickname for when she's playing extra aggressive, when she's real Britney, or when she's making pickles.

When she's making pickles very good.

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You got it all right? Well, Sarah, you cruised.

What a fun game?

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Thank you.

Well, we are delighted to have you. Uh and we are lucky we get to have you come back tomorrow. So don't go, and I do.

We'll do the Professional Women's Hockey League where they had no team names last season.

Yeah, that'll be a little tough.

They had they just they started the league and they just were named for the cities. New York played Montreal.

Oh, I see, But what that's.

Cool about it was they actually intended to have names, but the copyrights leaked and the fans were so unimpressed by and they hadn't really fleshed out what was the real meaning behind it all, which you really need when you launch on your team and logo, Like we've got all these old teams like the Dodgers and the Knicks and the Yankees that no one really cares about the

And I think that was a good idea by them.

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Sample I was going to say there was some ship in the British Navy.

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