XFL week 4 recap and excuses after a loss

a question to which I know the answer. Yeah, exactly, because because if I ask your questions you don't know the answer. I'm gonna I'm gonna take this disrespect. Joe Madrid on audio, what's going on? Award? It sounds it sounds good and joining us. I'm really excited because we've got our special guest. And not a lot of people are gonna know who this special. They don't get too excited, but we know him. He works with us in the studio. Mr Scott Tamill, Scott, what's up? It's an honor to

be here. So I want to give a little back because I want to give a little background on Scott Scott works with us in the studio on game days for college football, NFL football, XFL football, and we spend a ton of time together. And Scott is a wealth of knowledge. Scott knows a lot of things. I'm not sure, like how transferable his knowledge is to like, actually I don't know, like jobs and stuff and and being successful. But he knows a ton of stuff and I think

he's gonna be really good addition to the podcast. So I just want to put Joe and Travis on. Notice that if Scott does really well, this is not a four man booth. This is a three person booth. So if Scott does really well, one of you could be expendable. Just saying, well, we're always expendable. You You've said it from day one with it with us. Uh, you know, we're the only one that's not replaceable. Here's you. I'm not even gonna coming on because I know it ain't

gonna be me. So well, I'm just excited, you know, to take over for whoever. And but you did. Dean is right. Uh, we spent I probably spend more time with you guys than through the football seasons than basically anyone in my family, any of my friends without a doubt a second. It's disturbing. Well, we spend hours upon hours upon hours um during football season together in the studio and uh, but let's get into it. Let's talk about forget about football for a second. Let's go Deonte Wilder,

Tyson Fury. We talked about it last week the fight, but now we're getting and I want to talk about the rules of Now we're getting the the excuses. Now we're getting Wilder. He basically he's got the rematch clause. He's gonna take the rematch, So we're gonna get Tyson Wilder Fury Wilder three. But one of the reasons, he said, because we said he looked like he was drunk, like his legs weren't under him. He looked like he was drunk. And one of the reasons he said his legs weren't

underneath him is because his costume was too heavy. It was forty pounds. He had it on too long before the fight. Is that a legitimate excuse? And what are the rules if you have something legit you lose the fight. What are the rules to making up making an excuse like that? There's none. I think there's no excuse. But that's the silliest one I've ever heard. You chose to wear that. We we talked about this last week. You come out in the Tyson cut off hoodie and just

go you're wearing a cut off that. I did that on purpose. So it's always funny when fighters, I mean, that's ridiculous. The entrances were ridiculous. He had an entire rap song that that he came out to, So that's on him. But I always loved when fighters are like, hey, you know he wanted. I don't want to make excuses, but her and hard by any in training camp, how they announced did he bust his ears? Rum? That was

they did not know? They say. I think they said it was like a seven centimeter cut on his ear or something. That's why there was blood. Then it looked like it was coming from a busted here, Jim, and that's seven centimeters information. That's Travis. That's your job. So one nothing, one nothing for Joe. So okay, So okay, you lose the fight. Let's say you go into you choose to go into the fight. I don't care if

it's boxing, m m A, whatever it is. And you choose to go into the fight and you know you have an injury. I would imagine, Look, I've never fought professionally, but I would imagine you get nicked up in getting ready for the fight, like you get you get banged up. Everybody has bumps and bruises. But if you're fit to fight, you can't use that as an excuse if you lose, period, if you step in the ring, you're saying, I'm I'm

healthy enough to voight. It's like NFL players. Every time you step on the field, you are deemed as ready to play like that's that's why you have injury reports. If you don't show up on the report, you you

aren't injured. We talked about it before, but off air, I guess, but I do think it is a funny, all time great excuse because it's just like I'm too exhausted this outfit that I chose to wear, and then his opponent comes in being carried like furious, like furious, much fresher fighter coming in being carried, and then and then and then while there has to wear the the the big costume or whatever. But you do you you

don't want to be cold coming into the fight. That's why I don't think I don't agree with furies entrance either, Like you should be warmed up in the end the dressing room and get a good sweat going, and just sitting on that throne is gonna you're gonna get cold. You're you're gonna stop sweating. And that could be an issue too, but obviously it didn't affect fury Um. Next time I getting fight, I'm gonna get carried in my bed.

I'm still sleeping. Travis did did we have? We talked about the time Travis karate kick like dropkick the guy on the I didn't drop kick a guy? Okay, can we talk about that story? So? I didn't want to, but I guess you can. Good, Good Travis. So Travis, it was a flying leg kick by the way, Wow, was it a sidekicker around house? No? It was No, it was just straight on like I think it was a flying like sidekick like it was. It was from what he described. And this is Travis. This is going

back Travis. As we all know, the Caucasian rattlesnake. You roll them up, you're gonna get You're gonna get bitten. And so so he he was in his crazy days running around Santa Monica, my single Days in Santa Monic Days s w G S. We're running around in Santa Monica and some guy like got a little maude and and Travis ran like there was like the guy. I guess they were cross. Travis was leaving the bar, the guy was walking the other way. Something was said rattlesnake.

It just clicked. He was liked and and so Travis ran half the street, like half a block and karate kicked this guy in the chest. But the best part he said, leg in the chest. In the chest there was no but like no, no, like it's different. Yeah, you have to tell him where leg kick is. But it's not like you all kicks are with your legs, but you you Okay, it was a flying side just think, just think lou King. Oh got it. So there was

a sidekick. Yeah, it was a psydn and flying. But the best part of the story is, Travis, what what footwear were you? I was wearing flip flops because I live in I was living in Santa Monica at the time. Did you imagine like if I was staying there the guy in flip flops, I'd be like, dude, Joe, the guy in flipflops is running? What is he he's going? He's coming at us? Like, what is he? Dropkick to

the chest? How did that even? How did you even maneuver that with with Well, you guys underestimated my athleticism first off, and um, I probably and and when you know we talked about a few weeks ago. You know, you get to that point where you know you're a fun guy you're drinking with and then you do you get to that next level and you're not so much fun Like I had hit that next threshold and and gone over it. So so you were at you were beyond that the good range? Yeah, yeah, point eight to

point what did we say? Point eight? Like point one two? We do have a yes, we have we actually have a rating system. I was outside that the funds. Do you think he was as as now an older gentleman and not not young and party guy anymore? You're now just a regular dad, good dude? Did did did the

kick warrant the behavior? Did he deserve it? If you have, if you have to do it again, well, so I'm gonna say no he didn't, because you know, cooler heads prevail obviously as you get old or and you understand that those actions are not an okay thing. But at the time, it was like we were talking to these girls like his friends, and we had invited him over and they were all cool to come over. So you know, there's all we were hiding. Yeah, well they they weren't

their girlfriends, they were just their friends. Probably should have been kiding, probably, yes, Wow, but wait, wait guys, Travis, Joe, quiet, Scott, you have something to say. Well, no, I just wanted to for all our l A listeners, you know where did this happen? Where? Where is at the Gaslight the greatest karaoke bar of all time? Yeah, so if you're in Santa Monica, you might still you know, you can

still hear the ghosts of Travis. There's still a crack in the ground where a little plaque there where Travis Travis drop kicked the guy on the south end of Wilshire. So let's let's shift gears and let's talk a little XFL. But the biggest news for the XFL, at least personally, was the fact that we've been on this podcast. I'm the head of officiating for the XFL. We've been talking about the XFL for for not just the three weeks of the regular season, but leading up to the season,

the rules, everything else in my favorite team. Joe finally watched his first XFL action on on Sunday, and Joe tell us it was the It was the Dallas Houston game, and tell us your your impressions, Like, what was it like? You? You showed up and you, I mean, you got to see some stuff. I was impressed. I actually enjoyed it. Definitely, two of the better teams in the league. I am now a Houston fan. I don't remember. Man, they're four

no four now undefeated Roughnecks. You know what winners like? Winners? How do I do it? Imagine? Imagine, imagine they go undefeated and then the XFL Championship is in Houston and they win, and then we have our and then you have basically and in forty years there and they're celebrating every time an XTFL team loses their first game. So they're the seventy two Dolphins, Ughnecks. You know you're gonna be getting you'll be getting that text about them tickets.

I think that's is it called what's it called XFL Championship? Is the championship game at this point, we don't. We don't even know what the trophy. Well, my suggestion for the trophy, and I and I did, I did kind of raise this up the flagpole, and I and I really feel like we should do it is I said, we should come up with an XFL trophy that's like the Stanley Cup. And and so when the team wins, the names get etched on it and you get to keep it. And and so that it says two things.

It's creating a tradition. It's saying the league is going to be around for a long time. Come up with a name for it. I don't know, the Vince Cup, whatever it is. And and every team gets it when you win every year. That's my could be a Gatorade jug. Why not a championship belt? I mean, like w w be actually that I do like that. Uh. And then I do want to say that I think the XFL Championship m v P Trophy should be called the He Hate Me Trophy. That Scott, but we we are trying

to distance ourselves from XFL. Um So we're trying to just you know, we weren't talking even we were talking about that is the XFL doesn't have cheerleaders this go around, and we're talking about NFL teams that don't. We we ran through all the NFL teams that don't have cheerleaders, and there's not many. There's like four, I think, so the Steelers, the Giants, um Packers used like local high

school cheerleaders. The Bears. Was that it? Well, I just looked up and according to this older article, Buffalo Bills, and I thought they do though they were the Buffalo Jills. Yeah, and then the Browns, the Browns don't. We did say, okay, so then that there's if the Bills do. Yet again the Browns disappoint us and let us down if they don't.

Travis really, is that really? Traviss is not? If you're gonna you know what, it's to nothing now that Scott is really looking to Travis's spot right now, Joe, you're good? Right now? What he's busy texting? What are we gonna have? Scott's nickname gonna be? What? Well we have the Caucasian Rattlesnake's got gonna be the Asian rattlesnake? Or what's going When are you get you know, I'll be on a few times. Then yeah, well, let it. Let it happen organically,

like the Caucasian rattlesnake happened organically. Don't don't just you know, it's just one of my favorite parts of the show is when I hear the words Caucasian rattles, it is it's great so fans. But I'm excited that Joe finally watched and he did. Like they were. It was a good weekend. Like there were good games. Obviously, those are two of the better teams, the Roughnecks and the Renegades. UM St. Louis looks really good, and uh, you know, I'm excited New York l A played a close game.

It was seventeen fourteen, the Dragon St. Louis, UM Seattle game was close, one score game. Houston Dallas one score game. I mean, these were good, good games, and uh, you know, I'm excited about, um where where the league can go? Um I do. I do want to talk about just one rule that came up, and you know a lot of people were talking about on social media and I

know the coaches. So in the XFL, obviously the kickoff is different and you have the kicker from the thirty yard line and then everybody else is on the other side of the field, kicking team at the thirty five, return team at the thirty, and then one returner back deep. There were penalties after the try, so there was a try and then there was a dead ball personal foul that got carried over to the kickoff, and so the the team that scored was kicking off from not the

thirty but the forty five. And people were saying, especially on the broadcast, they were saying, well, that's not really an advantage. It actually disadvantages the the kicking team because the rules stay the same for the touchback. And I disagree. I don't think that's a disadvantage because now you're closer to the goal line, you can you can line drive that thing, hit it in the field of play, get it into the end zone, and that's a touch back

at the fifteen. You have a much better chance of doing that when you kick from fifteen yards up than you do from the thirty. The other thing is you could always go on side. Now if you don't get the onside kick, the field position isn't as bad. And the thing is, even if you kick it out of bounds, that ball is not gonna go to the forty five yard line, it's gonna go fifteen yards from the spot of the kicks. So if I'm kicking from my own forty five and I kick it out of bounds, it's

still gonna go to the return team's forty. So I don't think there there's no advantage to that. But it was interesting to hear that conversation. Um, and that's like really like very in the weeds rules. Do you guys understand what I'm saying, because I'm looking at blank faces right now. I just saw for the first them. Wow, that's right. Well, Joe, you've watched six minutes of l and I loved listen. If you haven't seen an XFL game, check it out. It's pretty fun. He's selling it. I'm

just saying it's to me. To me, it's a very very dense rule. It's hard to understand, and and our our commentators mix it up and we explained it to them during during last week's broadcast, and and to me it's still is kind of confusing, and and it just takes some time. You know, when you see it a few more times, like then you start to understand it. Yeah, well again, this is where we're four weeks and so we've played sixteen games. We haven't seen the rule though

A ton though, No, we haven't seen it. Alright, let's take a break and we come back. We're gonna talk college football, UM rules changes, NFL potential rules changes, and uh things that they took place at the combine. Next on the car. Alright, we're back on good calls. And it was interesting during the break, Travis was giving Joe audio advice because he already knows that he's kind of on the outs for the show and he's trying to

move in. Scott's gonna take over for Travis, and Travis is gonna try to slide in for Joe, and he's like, you know, Scott's mike sounds hollow. He's using like all like cool audio words because he's worked in TV and that, and he's like, well, you know, it's uh, you know what was the other word you use, like just hollow, hollow like other I'm not sure what I said. I don't remember most of the things I say after I say that. But alright, so forget let's go. Let's go

college football. So this past this past week UM in Indianapolis, the college football they have a competition committee and a rules committee. They met. They talked about different potential rules changes. The college rules change cycle to College and SEA is different than the NFL. ENOL they can change rules every year. College they can change rules every other year. Okay, the only rules that can change on a yearly basis are something that involves players safety or if it if it

speaks to the integrity of the game. It has to be something significant. So this is a rules change year, not a lot on the on the the the agenda, which is good. They're not going to make a ton of changes. One of the more interesting potential changes because the rules committee will will then propose a change, but it has to be it has to be then um agreed upon by what's called the Playing Rule Oversight Panel,

which which that process happens in April. It's made up of mostly commissioners from the different conference and they have to they have to basically pass those rules. One of the things that they are they are going to propose is if a player is objected for targeting UM, they no longer have to leave the field. They can stay on the bench with their teammates and they don't have to go to the locker room and UH like fighting

something like that. Different. You go to the locker room, they are they would actually say the player has been ejected. Meeting ejected, you're out targeting. They will say the player has been disqualified. But one of the analogies that was used during the meetings is that it's like the player who gets the fifth foul and basketball right there, they're out of the game, but they don't go to the locker room, right they don't go to the locker room.

They stay on the bench. And so the player will be able to stay um on the bench, take their helmet, can't obviously can't go back in the game. But what do you guys think about that? What's like, why does it matter? Is it that big of a deal? It? You know what it's it. This has been a topic that has been a big deal. They they they say that the it singles out, it singles out the kid um.

They call it, like, for lack of a better term, the walk of shame, like the player lead eaves the field that cameras are on him, especially if you're in a visiting at a visiting the visitor um at an opponent's school. And uh, and so the reaction from the crowd and things like that. And I think the other thing and one of the one of the best reasons I heard there was a player in the meetings. Um his name Fields is his last name. He's a safety for Oklahoma, and he said that while he had never

been ejected for targeting, his teammates have. And he said it's hard, especially when you're on the road, that literally you just cost your team fifteen yards. You just got thrown out of the game, and you go to an empty locker room by yourself and uh, and rather just be on the sideline with your teammates, they can kind of keep you, keep you in good spirits. And I just look, is is it a big deal? No, it sounds like this sounds like very millennial, like everyone all

these kids have been getting trophy their whole life. I guess that means there's no penalty box. We're not gonna incorporate that either, right. I think it's good because it's weird to be objected like for sometimes these hits are clearly not like malicious, So you're just like, you have the football plays for sure, exactly, so why not just let them stay on the sideline. It's not hurting anyone.

And that's the key that a lot of those those fouls are not malicious and uh and to throw the player and put him in a you know, in an empty locker room, it just feels harsh. I know, Joe, like, yeah, it's very millennial and and this is a feel good rule. But I agree with Scott. So now it's Joe, you have one day trashy of three. You can't ask my opinion and it's your opinion is it's not an opinion, it's not right or wrong, it's just my actual opinion was I don't think it's that pig of a deal

either way. But then you started giving your reasoning like well, it's going to root its feelings luck to the luck room. Watched because his mom to meet him in the locker room. When you watch him, look at the you're going to go see the sports psychologists. Now, defense, you're trying to save our jobs. Here, get the Caucasian rattlesnake and the other guy that if you if you look at his outfit, funny he's like in the tank for for a half hour, like would you which roll on my outfit? Why are

you making that face? And now you're how can you have talked about my outfit. You're a tough guy with you know, I'm feeling well. I don't run up people and hit them as hard as I can for a living. Neither do these kids. They're they're going on it for free. They're doing it for free and everybody, you know. So the one, the one I wanted to talk about, though, is the Clemson kid who did you get thrown out?

He's like the leader on their their defensive linebacker. So to keep him on the sideline it helps the team, you know, because he maybe can help the kids with the call, the other his teammates with the calls and looking at what he sees on the field. So I'm okay with the guy staying on terms of negative until I see Travis come around, and you know, I just like to, I like to to, you know, join my teammate here. I just want to be clear. I don't

mind table. I just think your reasoning behind it was a little the kids at that sorry for himself, right, yeah. But other than that, you know, there's not a ton there's not a ton on the rules change on that agenda. Um, you know, I ask a question, how commits every other years that's just to let the couple times. Yes, I like that. I I don't like changing a bunch of rules every year because everybody has to then adjust. Officials have to learn something new, players, coaches have to learn

something new, and it's hard. It's hard. So I like the idea of of every other every other year. UM, knee jerk. Yeah, And you don't exactly knee jerk reaction to something that happens one play, you know. I do think there will be a couple of other minor changes, Um, twelve men information on defense. Um, will no longer be a foul that the officials shut the play down for. And uh. And so I think that's interesting, but not a lot and and not a lot on the NFL

side either right now. Um, you know, I think what's gonna be interesting is that the coaches, you know, what happens with past inference review. I think the coaches several teams have gotten together and they've proposed a sky judge, which would allow obviously somebody upstairs in the booth with access to video to help on certain calls. Um. I don't think the NFL coaches are gonna be are gonna be satisfied if the league gets rid of past and inference review and doesn't go to some kind of a

sky judge concept. I think the coaches will um will have a very strong reaction to that, and so I don't know what's going to happen at this point. They have their their competition meeting meetings in in a couple of weeks that they go in Florida, and then they have the league meeting, uh, and I think it's like Florida of March, and that's where they vote on the changes.

Do you happen to know just a general feeling of how the coaches felt this year on how the past interferance thing was handled, because happy, that's yeah, that's at all um. They they are, you know, and we talked

about it. We talked about it all year, and I think some of it is a result of making a subjective call reviewable and and trying to figure that out in replay, and and the other thing is they there was almost like it got to the point where there was this impossible standard to overturn the call on the field, when really, why have the rule then? And we talked

about it. So to me, the only way this rule can work is if you say, for that one play only, we're gonna reofficiate the play and it's either is or it isn't, and we'll use the video to help us make that decision. But to have some kind of indisputable standard is going to be really really difficult, UM to to apply. And we saw it. We saw we saw it during the during the season. If you Dean, have you got any feedback from coaches executive GMS about UM.

The way the XFL is doing the replays with the guys in the booth and seeing seeing them that way with all the different angles definitely has been talked about. I think I don't the NFL is not going to go to a full transparency where you get to see and hear what the replay officials doing. It's just not I think again, I think that works for a new a new league, UM, but I don't know if that if the NFL is quite there yet, Is that how the sky judge will work? Though that guy would essentially

be the sky judge? Well yeah, I mean replay would definitely be the sky judge, no question, UM. And then the you have access to all the video, you have access to the too, UM, and you you'd be able to communicate with the on field crew and that would and and add input just like a regular on field official. And I think that's how that sky Judge concept with work.

I don't know again if there's gonna be enough support for that, but I know the coaches are going to propose it and I know therefore it and that's gonna be in interesting. Can you talk a little bit about that Hawkeye system that's being used by the XFL. Now, Yeah, So the Hawkeye system is is a replay system that's used in tennis. The NHL uses Hawkeye, and what the Hawkeye system does is it gives you access to all

of the camera feeds that are available. So right now, the way replay works is you you basically have a system that is recording the program feed of the game, and that's the feed that you see at home. It's it's what it's what the the producer in the truck is putting out over the air, and then the system records it and you can manipulate the video, you can run it back and forth, you can do different things. What the Hawkeye system does is immediately following the play,

the replay fish will have access to every angle. So it doesn't have to go on the program feed. The producer doesn't have to show it on the air for the replay official to have access to it. It makes the process more efficient, but it also it opens up the the the situation where replay can make a decision on an angle that hasn't been seen by people at home watching the broadcast. So that's where I think the communication is important. And the xfls using hawkey and and

and we've seen that, We've seen happen on Sunday. It happened on Sunday where the replay official. If the replay official makes a decision based on an angle that hasn't been on the program feed, then they have to communicate that to TV so they can show it on the air. And I think that's I think that's the important part. Um. So, you know, not a lot of changes, but there was the combine. The biggest thing from the combine is the punter from Arizona State, Joe, are you aware? Are you

aware of I'm not on my phone? Quick? Are you want? What do you want? Now? Bumble? What I don't bumble? You don't bumble? Is that like a thing that people in bumble say, Hey, you bumbling. I have a friend. I have friends bumble. I don't want to bumble and chill, Like, is that a thing? I don't I wouldn't know. I'm not a bumbler, So you're not a bumbler. Yeah, I was checking into my flight. Okay, where you going? Oh yeah, this is the nice, nice nice drop Costa Rica, Costa Rica.

Oh this is so you're going like this is kind of like Joe time. Yeah, you're going this is this is Joe is taking and I think this is good. I think we all should do this. Um, he's taking a little me time. It's like his own little retreat. He's gonna refresh. He's gonna just kind of reboot a little bit, go to Costa Rica, surf um, meditate, do jiu jitsu, do jiu jitsu, and the sand by himself, and it's gonna be I think you're gonna come back and you're gonna have like a new outlook on life.

I'm excited to see that, Joe. It's gonna be amazing. Maybe you should leave your phone in the United States too, Yeah, exactly. So when you're meditating, you're not bumbling or not, which brings me to one thing. Can I question You're gonna ask before this, did you see the Arizona State punter during the combine? How many? Okay, how many? You know what they do with the combine, the strength, with the pounds rights? How many times do you think the Arizona

State puntered dead? How many reps? Can I see a picture of him or something? He's he's like six ft two, He's like six ft two twenty pretty solid. Okay, so he's like my size. Okay, I don't know a dozen punter. He's a big punter, punter. He did so he did twenty five, which which is more than all the wide receivers, all but one of the tight ends, which is more than a lot of defensive lineman, a lot of reps, a lot of reps. How many do you think you

could do him? What's his name? Turk? Right? Yeah, he's a big dude, Michael Turk and his dad his cause uncle is Matt Turk, who who punted in the Probably I could do? What do you think the record is? Oh? I remember this? Um is so many? Who did Stephen? I think it's how you say he was a defensive alignement? Yeah? He uh is delicious too. It has the crust if it like the rice kind of burns. I don't know I can realistically, maybe maybe a dozen I might be able.

I don't know. I'm to twenty five. I could do sixty push up. So it's I don't think. I don't know. Here, here's I don't really bend for us. I think I could do none. I know I can't do any as well. You can't do. Really, I don't think I could do more than if I If I could, definitely yes, but if I did more than three, I'd be shocked. I don't think I could bench my body weight at this point in like I got to go to the gym right from here and try it. All right, we'll let

us know ruin. My whole trip is gonna a news story like local if you're not angels man dies at gym Local Local man dies and himself on the bench screaming, I'm better than a punter. The snow joke, I know, has really has no indication of how well he would play in the NFL, Like it's nothing. Isn't the whole combine kind of not indicative because it's like these weird isolated things. I mean, yes, you can want to be

fast if you're you know, a corner or something. But it's just like, wow, he his vertical is amazing on a stand still leap. Yeah, but that also, I mean that translates more directly to a football game. But what is a punter ney to be doing bench presses for to make tackles? We expected not expected to make those. So I and I agree. I think it's if you

really want to just follow. Mark Slaire is our colleague at Fox Sports, and he's market is like, really gone all in on the combine and he, you know, he's making like it's pretty funny. And I love Mark. He's like, I'm really good at exercising and that's gonna make me do well in the NFL. And I think the combine because we've seen we've seen these guys that come in and they they do unbelievably in the combine. They have these unbelievable UM numbers and everything else, and then they

they don't play in the NFL. They can't, they can't cut it. To me. What I think the combine does really clubs. The workouts that's for that's for TV, that's for the media. Like honestly, the clubs The value in the combine is the medicals and the interviews. That's it

because the players all go there. The clubs can get can can do all their medical exams, so obviously, and if you have a guy that has an injury something like that, and the interviews they get every club, they get to sit down, they get to talk to the draft eligible players, ask him questions and uh and kind of get to get a feel for who they are. That's what the clubs really really you know, go there

for the workouts. I think the workout. You have a guy like St. Jonathan Taylor, who who's you know, running back for wiscon on home improvement. Great. So here's a guy that has I mean, there's no question he can play, at least on the college level. You watch his tape, you look at you look at his numbers. He can play, but there's questions about his speed. You know, is he fat? Is he is he truly? Does he have that breakaway speed? Does he have? And he ends up running a really

good forty. That's the guy that the combine can help because we know he can play, but there was questions about his speed and he run he ran like a four three nine. I think um, then whoever finds that first between Scott and Travis is going to continue on the show. And and that's the guy that Scott's already bound. So that's the guy that I think it can help. UM. Well, So a question with Joe Burrows skipping the workouts, is he still going down there to do the interviews or

totally for three nine? I have a question, Yes, so you've seen draft day, Yeah, do you think that? And I don't know if you can say this if you have some confidential information, but do you think they really do things like put the hundred dollar bill at the back of the playbook and like do stuff. I think all things that have happened, I mean that stuff. I don't know how much that happens now, but I think

that stuff did happen at times. I mean I've heard stories about so I've heard stories about guys, you know, them putting um like the video guy putting UM taped together for who was Jamacus Russell, remember Jamacus Russell number one pick and like putting on his on his um and at that time, I don't even know, I don't think they were using iPads, but putting all this video for for Jamacus Russell to watch and then it was obvious that he didn't watch a second of it, you know,

So they would make sure that they would do things to check that these guys were actually doing what they were supposed to be going. So it's still famous yellow eminem's in a contract, you know that one, So like like get in the fine in the fine print of like a legal contract for like someone, you say, for actors, they do this like, oh did you read the read defined print? He wants all yellow m m's. And if they don't do that, it's not because that that ad

that actor's high maintenance. It's because they want to know that they're reading the full contract reading it. Yeah, well that would have been easy for me, because you know I want the panut eminem right, it's not but you like all the colors. I like t Scott, I'm you know, yeah, I don't. I don't just don't even go into the century lounge or what. I don't discriminate, just let you know what. Let's talk. Let's go to break and we'll talk about that when we come back. All right, all right,

we're back on good calls. Let's get into it. We got a lot of things to cover in this segment. We talked a couple of weeks ago about one of my favorite underrated movies comedies euro Trip, and if you haven't seen it, check it out. But there's there's Matt Damon is in euro Trip. Is kind of like a cameo replay. He plays like this, I don't know punk rock singer, I don't know whatever music you want to

call it. And the song is Scotty doesn't Know. And Matt Damon is sleeping with the main character, Scotty's girlfriend, and the song is Scotty Doesn't Know. And we're wondering how the hell Matt Damon ended up casting this role. Travis did some research and it's about to tell us how Matt Damon ended up in euro Trip. So Matt Damon went to school and he was he studied like film in screenwriting. He's a screenwriter and he wrote. One of the films he wrote in college was for an

English assignment. Was good will hunting? A treatment for it? At least no way? What what was good at good good will hunting? About Travis, it's a good will hunting. We're not gonna do that. Um. So he he had these other writer friends in college that wrote the movie euro Trip, and he clearly hasn't seen it, Scott, I'll continue. So so, yeah, so these these guys who wrote wait can we you? Are you? He is dead serious, Scott. He is telling me like like he's telling me what

good Will Hunting was. He's like, you know, he wrote this script and it was called good Will Hunting. Well, he's also going like, okay, so Matt Damon's American actor. He does, but he has not seen Good Will Hunting and he's explaining it to me like I haven't seen it. I have seen it out, thank God. Okay, go. So he went to college with these guys who wrote euro Trip and he's like, I'm in your I'll be in Europe filming another movie, The Brothers Grim. So he's like, so,

he's like, I'll be in that movie. I'll do that role for you guys. So he did a favorite first buddies who wrote it, and since he was already in Europe, he's like, I'll come over. I'll shave my head for that role to be the punk rock lead singer. Since I'm wearing a wig in this movie that I'm doing, so I'll shave my head and then he was just like a timing than it was the timing thing. What you know what, it's awesome, you know what? This the secret to life is right? I told you right, two things,

the secret to life, a meaning of life. The two things timing and lighting. If you give me good timing and good lighting, everything else I look great in the bar. Everything else is gravy. Well, I mean I chucked up meeting Dan Blie Blandino. Here to timing right, I will say I have a personal connection to Deer Trip, and it's not actually personal, it's just said. I was when that movie really blew up. I was working at best Buy and a lot of my co workers would just

say Scotty doesn't know. They would just yell that at me, and uh did you made me? Uh? Not like that movie as much? Man, that's a strike against your right Dean. That's like when I made fun of Scallone. Well maybe not quite that. Don't don't inst do your Stallone impersonation. It's great, it's not great, Yes it is, it's good. I'm not gonna do it. I don't want to insult the man either, except for I mean, well, we'll talk about it later. Is is some of his recent choices

have been upsetting. Look, let's just the man is a legend. The man has brought us cinematic just gold, gold, Rocky everything. So we're not gonna talk about storm right now. Going back to Matt Damon, does anyone know where he went to college? I would, uh, I mean the choice, the obvious choice would be somewhere in New England, my mass Chusetts, but I don't from Cambridge, went to Harvard. I didn't know that until I looked this up. My boys wicked smile,

wicked smile. So okay, just anybody in there. The other thing, the actually, here's the thing, you're all. The other thing that we were talking about is who do you think? And I don't know the answer to this, So this is all gonna be speculation, but it's a good conversation. Who is who do you think has made the most

money the highest paid commercial actor? And we're talking about like people like Flow from Progressive like the Get Go Mayhem, That's who who do we think has made Now we know the guy that we that I think has made the most is just no forget about not a celebrity endorser. Shaqu Will endorse anything that Shaquial endorse any general he does, the general insurance shack will endorse whatever you want like this agents like shaq I don't think we should touch

this one. I'm good so that the face, the face is closer. I wish you could see a face. So how about God? I mean, but the guy that probably made the most is a piece of ship and he's in prison. All right, so Jared from Subway. So but here's one what an all time lame by the way, let me go off on Jared here. It's just like he would go like it started in like I think the like ninety four seven. It's like a decade later he's just showing up at subways like here's my big

pants I used to wear. It's like what ace? And that's how he got those appearances, I wonder. And you're trying to tell me that this mother that he all he did was eat subway Like that's how he lost that he walked. That was the other party. And I'm waiting for the like FX American Crime story that yeah, where he's like in like he's yelling like I'm Jared. You know who I am. I'm Jared. I can do whatever I want. So this is going to be Scott's

strong point. This is but the here's one that I was thinking of the other day that I think might be in the running. And again we don't know. But who might be in the running is the Verizon guy who went to sprint. That guy could be it because he's in print, he's in the he's on the commercials like he's everywhere. That's that's why a great question off air. We also said, well, I think it's Flow because from Progressive, because she has she was the face of this I

think for now like fifteen years. I looked at I'll double check. But yeah, and so. But but just like you said, uh, Dean, she does the print ad, she's you hear her on radio. She's getting paid for all these things. She's done hundreds of progressive commercials. It's insane. Oh I just I just did a little google about the most interesting Yeah, that's what just came up. The most interesting man in the world. Yeah, but I don't he stands is one of the highest network commercial actors

out around eight million bucks. Yeah, but he's fired. Now they're not doing but they're not doing it anymore. And I think I think Flow has been around longer, like certainly those ads The most Interesting Man in the World ads was was one of the more like clever ad campaigns. I think what it did is it took remember the all the jokes and the Chuck Norris Norris basically the Chuck Norris jokes, and it made it. Yeah. Flow makes a thousand per year I'm sorry, excuse you, a million,

millions million dollars a year. See. But here's the thing we were talking about that what what side are you on? The official site that knows everything that people are making? Like what side are you on Google? Yah? But celebrity networth is the celebrity netword? How do they know exactly what someone's network. There's no way they can know what

type of residuals and back in the contracts are. Because I have friends who have done commercial acting and it really depends obviously like Flow, like the like there there's no buyout things. She's like getting massive like front end contract. She's getting paid so much. Yeah, she's making more than a million a year. They say her net worth on this thing is only six million, which Flow is like Flow spending a lot of money that we maybe Flow needs to relax because this is not flow spending money

on flows occasion rattlesnake. It's just it's just a rhymes rhyme. You can't help basically now now now flow from progressive as a coke head, and she's, you know, defamation of character real quick. I have to mention this now too, because I was looking at something on the computer. Jared Fogos only forty two. He looked, he looked bad. He looked because I thought he was he's But can we just say that the the sorry I brought up, the why you bringing him back up? Some of the long

in the room. You know, some of the sentiments that are said on this show are not necessarily the the sentiments of the name on the show. By the way, Travis, thanks. Um. The other thing we were doing is we we did a game where if you start to type in a name and Google and see what comes up in the dropdown list, So like, pick a name, do me for example, we did. We did blend you know, and the first thing that pops up is Dallas party bus, party bus.

Let's just start taking Dean Blendino, Dean blendingo, party bus, Dean blending a wife, Dean Blendingo, xfl Age, Fox Salary podcast ref Fox podcast made it, Yeah, depend it depends on how what people are searching for, because mine, says Dean Blendingo nfl Yeah, but the purple ones are the ones you typed in. The black ones are like what's in the world, They're all the black ones here. I don't. I don't search for Dean. I'm not a weirdo. You know I'm not. You don't know how come when mind

popped up, say is Dean? I got Dean? So I've got Dean Blandino, Jared Fogel, party, Uh I'm still yeah, that shouldn't happen. Um, he says Twitter, party, bus wife, xfl Age, Fox salary pots are all things that that I've was involved in. So yeah, So who else do you mean? One more Glazer, friend of the friend of the show, friend of the show, Jay Glazer height. That's

exactly it, Jim. So people are people are googling to find out how how tall JA best one on the Jay Glazer one though, was like five down is like you know, there's height is the first one, but then no, but real height is roar. I don't know a thing. Are we like are we padding j height stats at Fox, Like, do we have height stats? Well no, I'm just saying it's like all the roster of talent, Like, am I they list me at like six four? Oh dude? Can they get me on there? Then alright they're gonna we're

gonna pad height stats. All right. So, like I said that the network thing is ridiculous, it's not true, Travis. You said you looked up my network. Try to try to find it. Yeah, I try to find yours, and it just it just says in a in poor grammar, um net worth and more than millions of dollars congratulation. So I have my net worth is more than millions of dollar? Yes? Is that okay? That's cool. You could say that about almost anybody living in l A. Well, not me about that. There's a lot of a mult

have you seen like ten City? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that's gonna work. Um, all right, let's go brain of Blendio Downtown Houston Aquarium. How shitty of a fish do you have to be? Okay? So I was in when I was in Houston, I saw that aquarium and I just I was just thinking, like, it's not a very aquarium friendly environment, Like think about like a very like New York City or Detroit, Like imagine

that the aquarium in downtown Detroit. It's not like a fish is swimming in beautiful like Caribbean waters and they get caught to take into an aquarium and they end up in Detroit? Like how how much does that suck? Like what like you don't even get this as a cartoon movie or something like like yeah, like you'd be in the down like what kind of fish are in this? So the quality of the aquarium itself in Houston, it's not like a rundown place, is it. I don't I

just don't know. It just doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like a I just feel like the city doesn't seem very aquarium friendly. Does that does that make sense? It? Does it? Does? I? I've definitely uh heard and seen like Santa Barbara feels like a good spot, the beautiful beach, but really like Florida, but like I don't think that unlocked, Like oh maha, but isn't that actually worse? Like if you're the fish, You're like I'm so close to where I'm from, but I'm in a cage. Yeah, I guess

I just don't. I don't know. It just struck me funny, like I was just like looking at it was like if I was a fish, I wouldn't want to be at that aquair. I'd want to be in the Sydney, Australia. I know this isn't exactly what you're saying, but I've a while ago I read like a national geographic about like animal tourism, how people will go like I want to go swim with these dolphins or I want to ride these elephants, and then they expose that like they are living in hell, like they're in a cage and

they're getting beaten. Yeah, And it kind of made me be like, yeah, most zoos, most of aquarium these are bad. Yeah, I I don't like I think they're there. There's zoos like the San Diego Zoo is really nice, and I do think the animals are treated well at a zoo like that and in a lot of animals, and I think, I like, if I'm an animal like you are, Yeah, but if I'm an animal that is in a zoo, like I'm feeling pretty good. Like if I'm in the wild and I'm could be eaten like right, just imagine.

But we talked about this, I think during this season where it was like remember the documentary Blackfish where it's like they have that aerial shot where it's just like a camera, you know, it's like a helicopter shot and you see the whale and it's basically just in a bathtub. So that movie made me not want to go to see World. Ever. I've never been, and I would never I've never been, and I felt bad for going. I went.

I went before the movie exposed after no no, I swear before actually donated money to see World after he donated money to try to block that film from being from being aired. You would be the guy that the feeding falls creation. That's not true. The depressed doors true, the depressed it's normal. It's normal. You know. We feel so bad for these these these animals. But going to an office building, same thing. That's what we're doing. We're

getting Cuba trapped. Oh wow, going there. You went there. On that note, let's end the show on a real positive note. Thanks for listening. This has been good calls. And now that you feel really bad about your life, you're supposed to come to us for entertaining me. Yeah, We'll supposed to make people feel good, but obviously Joe wants end like that, and so how wellnda this has been? Good Calls to Dean Blandino. Please follow me on Twitter

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