Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, what's up? Welcome to Good Calls. I'm Dean Blandino, joined by my producer wait for it, wait for it, Get ready to get awkward, Travis Hansen. Hello, how you doing today? Those are that? Was like, that's kind of sexy, right, it's his sexy boys and on audio Joe Madrid. I can't match a sexyness. What's up? What's up? Um? Joe's wearing you Obviously you can't see it, but Joe's wearing a Better days are coming? Sure? Is
that a hugo Boss's sexy? Um? Better days are coming? Better days are coming? In twenty nineteen, all right, well it was. It was a challenging year for some Um, let's get into it. Wild card weekend, it was a wild weekend. Uh, let's start with Sunday's games and obviously the play the everybody was talking about. And and I don't know what is going on with New Orleans, but it feels like the universe, you know, sometimes it feels
like the universe is working in your favor. It feels like the universe is not working in in New Orleans favor right now with the Saints, with the way that game ended, this is three years in a row they lose. I think it's the treatment of Brett five in the bounty, but you feel like this is all karma back for they lose three years in a row. On the last
play right there, the Minnesota whatever miracle. Then they lose on a on a field goal in overtime after obviously obviously after the missno call, dp I the miss call. And now they lose in overtime on a Kyle Rudolph touchdown or or was it? And and this was it was I have never I can't remember recent memory a a quieter ending to a football game to an exciting, an exciting way game ended. It was it was like funeral quiet. It seemed weird to me. I was like,
this is very anti climactic. Doesn't seem like it was supposed to end. It's like something something supposed to happen here. Just yeah, like, could you imagine if the Saints had one that way, or if they were playing in Minnesota, would have been it would have been mayhem? But it was so quiet, and and then it was kind of like everybody stopped for a second and it was weird because now they're like, what are they waiting for? And they obviously showed it because you could tell they showed
it in the stadium first because people reacted. And then and then we started to show it on on our broadcast and they started to show the replace. Now, look in real time, it didn't look like anything from the angle the live shot, it didn't look like anything. Look like, okay, touchdown he you know, Rudolph just got behind the defender and that was it. And then you start to look at the replaces and you go, wait a minute, this is something going on here. And it was funny because
now everybody stops and it's over time. There's no extra point, there's nothing. They're just waiting to see what's gonna happen. Are they going to review it? Are they gonna and look, let's start with what happened. Rudolph extends his arms, clearly extends his arm into the into the defender. And I don't know what which defender was. I can't think of his name right now, but into the chest of the defender, clearly creating space to make the catch. It's past an ofference, Okay,
it is offensive, pest inference. But now we get into the question of is it clear and obvious? Does it meet the standard it has to meet in replay? And I think it's just one of those plays. And I want to hear your guys take on it, but to me, it's one of those places where if the call is made on the field, it doesn't change, and the call is not made on the field and it doesn't change, and that is it's an It just doesn't feel good.
It just it just it feels unsatisfactory very much. It's yeah, to me, it looked like there's some hand fighting going on, but there was. There was a clear extension of the arm. The elbow was completely locked and there was separation from Rudolph, and then he goes up and makes the play. I thought, I thought, for sure it should have been And here's what's happening. Here's what's happening in the replay booth, and
in New York they're looking at it. And now there wasn't a replay right away because obviously it's the game winning touchdown. You want to show that reaction. You want to show the celebration, the fans, the agony, all of that, and so what's happening is you're looking at the live shot, you're running it back looking for you know it's a catch, you know that's not the issue. But now you're looking at contact, which has been obviously an added element this year,
and then the replay start to come up. You don't have a lot of time. You don't have a lot of time um to to look at it because you know that that the game is in essence over and there's people on the field. It's gonna be tough to clear the field. So you've got to make a decision. And maybe ten seconds, am I gonna stop this and create a formal review or have I seen enough to say we're not going to change it, We're gonna move on. And uh. And it's interesting that they decided that they
we're gonna change it. We're gonna move on and and I don't know if because I got I go both, I see it from both sides. I say, Okay, you want to at least give people there there, they're right there, time in court, right, you want to at least give them the process and say, all right, we we went through it. They didn't think there was enough to change it. At least we went through the process. But by by opening up that door, now you open up now all of the debate and all the question and all the
back and forth. And are you saying by stopping the game, you're you're almost you're almost saying that you think there's something there but not enough, but not enough, and that it's just it's the It's the biggest challenge with this rule is is again, whatever they call on the field, And so it takes me back to years We've been doing it one way, right, we live with the call on the field, right, you know, and we move on and now we're trying to now we're trying to judicate
this in replay, and it's really tough. But it's just, you know, and I know that our river run did did uh? Did have There was a pool report and Travis, you can read what what Al did say about it. Yeah, he said, we looked at it. We looked at all the angles that Fox afforded us, and Fox gave us some good some great views that there's contact by both players, but none of that contact rises to the level of a foul. This is consistent with what we've done all
year long. We left the ruling on the field we let it stand. The rules just shouldn't be there, then it just needs to go so and and I think, and I just want to talk about al statement. I think that the the last two sentences, I agree, this is consistent with what they've done for the most part, and and they let it stand. I don't agree. I think I think you could probably ward that better because what he's saying is there's no foul right now. You
I think there's a difference. And I think there's a difference between between saying there's no foul or there was not enough to create the foul and replay. And I think that's where at least that's where I would have went with it in the converse, in the in the discussion, but obviously because what they're saying is we didn't see a foul, and I disagree with that. I think it is a foul. Is it agreed tous as a flagrant No. But it's just it's so like you can't make it up,
Like you can't make it up the states. If I'd have told you, Joe, put give me a line on the Saints losing this game and and and a questionable pass interference being involved on a on a walk off touchdown. What would have been the odds, like Buster Douglas. It's crazy. It's crazy, and maybe it is. Maybe Travis is right. Maybe it's karma for the whole bounty gate thing. I don't know. I just think that we've been talking about
all season long. If you're gonna if the enforced the rule, if it's p I, callp I, it's like it has to be a separate, different level of p I. If it's on replay, yeah, well, if it's egregious, the rest are gonna get it nine out of a hundred times, got it. They missed one big one last year, but they're gonna get all the egregious ones. If you're gonna put put in replay, start throwing the flags and make the players adjust, it is it is. I think there's
one of two ways you can go. You can either get rid of it all together, or you just say, we're gonna reofficiate the play in replay. We're gonna forget about We're gonna forget about the call in the field, and we're just gonna reofficiate. That's what the colleges did with targeting. I don't mind we reofficiate the play and we just make a call. So I think that's that's that's really to me, those are the two likely the most likeliest of paths that the Okay, So here's the question.
If you're still ahead officiating, do you want that flag thrown on field? Yeah, I would want that fleg from initially I want I would want the officials to get it. But since it didn't get called, you wouldn't have reversed. Not based on where the standard has been, not based on where the standard has been. No, I agree with that. But but if we're if we're gonna use replay to correct the officials mistakes, why because you're saying you wanted to be a foul. It's that's and that's the problem
with reviewing these subjective calls. Because we can we can sit there and look at a look at a receiver's foot touching the sideline and make the passes incomplete. That's that's not you can't dispute that the foot was out of bounds. But when you're talking about subjective, subjective calls like past inference, yeah there was contact. Was there enough contact to to significantly hinder the defender in this instance? It's it's it's debatable. And it's to me that was
very borderline egregious. I mean, he's he shoved the dude. It seemed that way to me, and and and I wanted Tonsota to win. But I love it's no, I know, I get it. So let's go. There are a couple of plays earlier in the game that had people talking. There was, um, you know, first quarter feeling fumbles. New Orleans recovers they had a review, but they missed a false start on the play, and that that goes back to you know, think about like sky Judge concept and
whatever is that. Are we gonna officiate that from replay and say, well, they missed a false start, let's avoid out the entire play. Sometimes we just have to live with the officials call and they're gonna miss some. They don't miss a lot, but they are gonna miss some,
and sometimes we just have to deal with it. But obviously, when you say that, it makes me instantly think of when the play clock is running out and it goes to zero and then you see the ball snapped, like then they're gonna shut that down if they had as the thing like we we we talked about that, it's not a shot clock like in basketball, it's not an exact you know, the moment the clock expires, it's over. You know, the back judge has to see the clock expire,
look down. If the ball is being snapped at that point, there's no foul. So, um, it's impossible if we want to get if we want to officiate this game to that degree, I think people, I think we're gonna people are gonna see that it doesn't work. It just doesn't work. And that you know, it goes back to and there was a blind side block called on a on a New Orleans punt return and uh, and you know, and I think the blind stide block, and we'll get into it,
and we talked about Buffalo Houston. I thought this was based on the rule. This was more of what the rules intended to get out, that type of blowout, blow up block. And uh, and the and the player lead with the with the shoulder made and made contact, forceable contact. It it occurred, it occurred during the kick, so it was properly enforced. It's enforced from the end of the kick. But um, then they had a they did a nice job with a helmet foul. They had a flag down
for initiating contact with the helmet. They got together and picked that up. I really feel like replay was involved in that, and and that happens from time to time where the official story flag, they get together, they talk about it, and replay can see a rep uh you know, an angle and they say, hey, it's not a foul, pick it up, and and that happens. I think that's that kind of sky Judge concept that that happens from
time to time. And then there was the ten second runoff deal at the end of the game, which was interesting because the Saints had a time out left and now you have they complete a pass, the clock is running. Now they have to make a decision. Do we run up to the line and spike or do we take a time out use our last time out? And what
they chose to do, which which I get it. I get the logic playing for overtime play well, the play for overtime, but they're playing for you know, let's let's get the clock stopped and then keep our time out. But the the risk there's what happened. There was some confusion. They didn't get lined up. Not only eleven got set, so that's an illegal shift. But with the clock running inside two minutes, it becomes a false start because again the theory is, you snapped the ball before you were
entitled to you can serve time. We're gonna take time off the clock mouse, So there was a runoff. Saints had an option. Defense could have declined the runoff. They're not going to do it in that situation. Saints had an option to either take a time out or take the runoff. They took the runoff, so went from one to eleven, and then they're gonna wind the clock on the ready for play. They end up throwing an incomplete pass, they kicked the field goal they had, they kept the
time out in their pocket. But it's just it's an interesting situation. When we talked about those ten second run offs and why that rule is in place, and then and then and then to me, and I do, like, I want to get your guys thoughts on this. Like people again, any time, especially in a playoff game. We saw it last year with the FC Championship game. Any time the team that wins the toss gets the football and overtime and goes down and scores a touchdown, people
complain about the every time. Every time people overtime we got we got robbed from seeing Drew Brees get the football and look, I get it. I I understand the desire to say, okay, let's let's match. You know, give them an opportunity. But they they have an opportunity, right And and when you think about overtime, and this is in my experience with the NFL, and this was always the conversation we talked about overtime. The main purpose of overtime is we want to decide a winner. Okay, that's
number one al right. Post season overtime is different than regular season overtime. Right le season overtime ten minute period, it's over at the end of ten minutes. If the score is tied, it's tied. Whatever the score is. Even if even if the second team didn't get a possession and the first team kicks the field goal, it's over.
In postseason, we start a new game, same rules in terms of each team having to have a possession if there's not a score, a touchdown or safety on the opening on the opening possession, but we play a new game, so we're going to decide a winner. So that's what it does. The second thing overtime has to do is maintained all three phases of the game, offense, defense, and
special teams. That's what the NFL overtime does. The third thing that I feel is really important to an overtime system and and a lot of people around the NFL that's why we have this rule is maintain an element of sudden death to the game can end at any time. Okay the college and I like college overtime, it's not it's exciting, but it's not sudden death. The game cannot use the restroom. And while the first team the game cannot end on any play, in NFL the game can
end on any play. And that those are the three things that I think the NFL overtime keeps. It keeps college overtime. You don't special teams are out right, you're getting the ball to you're going, yeah you can, you can. You have the field goal part, but there's no return game. There's there's none of that kick off, the opportunity for punts. Yeah, it's out And to me, that's what makes the NFL overtime.
And you have an opportunity to stop if you're gonna allow how many drives, how many scoring drives are there during the game. Percentages tell me that that if they win the toss, right, they're gonna get stopped there on the odds are on my side on defense because because less than I don't know how many percentage of drives end into touchdowns, but you have five touchdowns a game, right, So so odds are on defense. I'm gonna stop you and get the football and and maybe have better field positions.
So you're gonna play defense. And to me, I like the NFL overtime rule. I don't. I don't want them to change it. I get people being upset that Brees didn't get the football, but it is what it is. Play defense. I like it. I love the sudden death. You cannot you cannot get away from the TV. You can't, and that's that's what makes it exciting. I agree, agree, I just I mean, I think it could be a little bit better, but I mean your points are pretty valid. Yeah,
I play defense, play defense, play defense. I'm I'm look, I get it. It's not even that you're you have You're going against a stout offense. You know, Hey, Kirk cousins Man, this is his this is this his seminal moment, This is this is forget about when he was with Washington and you like that that's not and all the football this is you like, this is this is when he should be You like in that not not not
back then was a huge upset. And the other part of that Rudolph touchdown is it was thrown by Kirk Cousins. So it's almost like it was a dream of a haze, a purple haze if you will, was over the stadium and it didn't seem like it was really unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Let's let's transition to the other game on Sunday. See, I have a Philly not There wasn't a ton from this game, but still not without controversy. Carson Wentz hit early first quarter. Um, Daveon Clowney out for the game.
Now you're playing with Josh mcnow. Nothing against Josh mcnow, but I'm pretty sure Eagles and Eagles fans would want Carson in there in in the playoff game. Um, I think he was working for your ESPN at the beginning of the year. It's yeah, I mean, this guy has stuck around. I mean, this guy is like you see, he's the oldest player to make his debut in the playoffs. It's unbelievable, and he's played for how many teams? Ten teams or something ridiculous. Anyways, to the to the point though,
is that Look to me, this was a foul. I I just think the officials missed it. I really do. I thought, Look, Whence is a runner, he's not defenseless. He's he's trying to go down. He goes down head first. He's not sliding to give himself up. He's going down head first. So he's not gonna get defensive player protection. But to me, Clowney clearly lowered his head and initiated forceable contact with the helmet. That's the use of helmet rule. I thought it was even close to your traditional spear
with the very top of the helmet. But to me, it was a foul. Um it. It kind of begs the question, Look, whether the officials call it or not, it's not going to change the fact that Wentz was out for the game. Right, So so do you then need to start talking about the college targeting rule. College, he's gone for the game, right, if they go into the they deemed that targeting. Yeah, he's gone for the game. And so it just I don't think this play or
I don't think the NFL should go there. But I do think this will generate that type of discussion because I remember having discussions there were clubs when there was a play that the player was injured and it was deemed illegal and they were gonna either find or suspend that player. There were some clubs that said, hey, he should that player that that hurt our player. He should
be out as long as our injured player was. You know that type of deal, which is it's tough, that's tough to to manage and tough to you know, do you if it's your you know, third string wide receiver, do you just put him on I R and it's there, you know J J. Watt he's out for the year. But it's just there could be like a maximum. Yeah, I just think it did. It did at least pop up for me that that he's out went is out of the game, regardless of whether the call is made.
There's not nothing bringing him back if he's deemed out for the game. It's just, you know, do you then have to think about ejections and not that I didn't think it was I didn't think it was malicious or dirty per se. I just did think I thought it was a foul. I really did. And I was surprised that that they didn't get the call. I know, they had a pool report and they mentioned that the contact
was incidental. Um And and I, I mean, I disagree with that because basically what you're saying is is that it's not a foul. And and if it were me, you know, I would I would I would probably lean towards look in the officials view in real time they deemed the contact was incidental. We're gonna look at it, review it with all available resources, and make a determination and let let the clubs know, you know what what what our ultimate decision is. So learned on the slide, Yeah,
on this a couple of years ago, no question. And I think, look, he's he's still he's a young quarterback still, and I think we've got a lot of good young quarterbacks in this league that you know, the guy that impressed me, um, you know about the guy that that I watched this year, that he knows when to get down because he runs a lot as Kyler Murray. And I mean Kyler Murray knows you know, he's a baseball player, and and and he Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson doesn't because
it does a nice job. You look at some guys Aaron Rodgers, you know, been around and and uh so it's it's good to see another down. That's and it's the rule. That's a Travis to say. On that note, let's go to break with a Travis. All Right, we come back. We'll break down the other games from Saturday. A lot to talk about in Buffalo Houston and is this the end of the dynasty in New England? Next on good calls. All right, we're back on good calls. We talked Sunday already. Let's go back in time and
talk Saturday Buffalo, Houston or Houston Ust. This game was crazy. This game was insane. And I want to know, like in the thirty for thirty about Josh Allen in twenty years, whenever it is, this game is gonna be like what what whatever? What was he on in this What was he thinking? Well, the one player that stands out to me was the one he pitched going down like that.
That's like the last play of the game. Pitch and they were they that would have been a first down where he had the ball already and he pitched the ball. He could not have It could not have worked out better for the stupidity. But it's like I get it, Like he's young and he's trying to make a play, but that's just because it went backward. Okay, and then the bat smart play they batted it backward out of bound because that would have been a foul, there would
have been a runoff, it would have been in. That was crazy. But he's gonna be like he's he's got all the tools. I mean, he's got talked about when it's not slide, he can slide, he can run. But he was just I mean, but this game had a little bit of everything and some things that that we probably haven't seen. So there was a pass inference review
early Texans um they wanted past inference. I think it was DeAndre Hopkins that that there was some contact early and uh, but not enough to create the folon replay. But really the one play that I think I had not seen it was it's the it's the opening kick off of the third quarter of the second half. Lisassaulters is doing her her her on air um whatever we want to call it, and it's like a it's like a nothing touch back, and all of a sudden, the
officials are ruling touchdown. And I thought testator, I thought he was gonna jump out of it. He was screaming they were either going to make this a touchdown, right, and what did Karenny do? And what should he have done? So okay, so the rule says, look, I get it. The rule says, the player gives himself up by taking a knee or sliding or going to the ground and making no media attempt to advance. He didn't do any of the those things. But you you've seen I've seen
this before. So the player, the returner um he think Carter. He he gives the he puts both arms out. He extends both arms. That's a signal to his his blockers that I'm not bringing the ball out. So so that that saves. That's a signal the teams used to save on those collisions. Look, not bringing it out. Relax, don't
try to engage, don't don't let's not risk anything. He does that, he catches the ball, He takes a couple of steps and he's clearly not trying to advance it and he flips the ball to the referee to Kranni. Now Cornni just Correni wanted no part of it. It was like hot potato. Karnis like, nope, I'm no not gonna touch me ball. It's the ground, buffalo falls on
it and they signal touchdown. And it was interesting because you know, John Parry, who's on the ESPN former referee, did a nice job talking about common sense and and this is something that we've seen and the runners clearly not trying to advance the football, and the alternate officials actually got in and this is something alternate officials can do. You only have alternates. We talked about it last week
for the postseason. There's actually four. Used to be three for the for the first three rounds wild Card Divisional Championship used to be three. Now it's four. In their new CBA, they negotiated a fourth alternate official and so those officials are on the sideline. You'll see them coming up in the games on Saturday and Sunday and they're wearing they're wearing an officials uniform, but they're wearing a
black jacket. So there. I think it was Camp, right, Alex Camp Mark Stein Kirschner was another one, and so they can't. They don't have flag responsibility. They can't throw a flag, but they can get involved in in something administrative. They can get involved in the clock and this was certainly something administrative. They came in, they immediately had a discussion,
and they ultimately decided the right thing. And this was a touchback because even even if you make it a live ball by rule, it can't be a touchdown because he actually threw a forward pass. You can't throw a forward pass, as that would be an illegal forward pass, not from scrimmage. Yeah, it's an illegal FOURD pass. As soon as the ball hits the ground, it's dead and it's actually it's a foul in their own end zone. It's safety safety not not a touchdown. So it could
have never been a touchdown. The best Buffalo could have done was gotten the safety out of it. But again common sense, and this is one of the points I want to make about if if we want the language and the rule book to to be explicit on every potential situation that could come up, the rules, the rule book would be a thousand pages. This kind of reminded me of the Dack thing and what was assumed in what actually happened like that's kind of like, yeah, which
the dacka the coin flip this gant? I did you have to give some again, not every situation. I think sometimes you can't. If if a player is going to do something stupid, sometimes you can't save them. But I think common sense and you allow the officials discretion in certain situation rations because you can't write out every potential thing.
The rule book is already and we're gonna talk about the the Tennessee, New England game and how the rule is gonna change because of what happened in that game, and and and others previously. But they got together and they got it right. It's a touchback. Now watch watch what's gonna happen. The language in the book is gonna.
They're gonna add something to say if a player, you know, makes no obvious attempt to advance the ball, regardless of taking a knee or anything, they're gonna they're gonna at the officials discretion, whatever it is. So I guarantee you there will be some language added to the book, not not a rule change, but an edit that will cover this situation. And so the rule book goes from six six hundred and seventy three thousand, four hundred fifty two words to four fifty three words. But anyway, um, so
that happens. Then then you have the play, the Beasley play, and near the end of the fourth quarter was crazy because it was you weren't sure what was ruled on the field because they didn't change the down marker still said fourth down, but actually ruled first down. Um. Buffalo was out of time outs, and they ruled Beasley caught the ball. He was on a knee, he dove and it was close initially, so I get them stopping it. Crony comes out and says the ruling on the field
of the first down. His stands and and we move on. There was a lot of discussion, well was he short? He actually wasn't short. He Beasley caught the ball, his knee hit the ground prior to contact, and then his knee came off the ground. Then the defender contacted him and then he lunged forward, so he did get to the line of game. It was just an interesting play
because it had a lot of people talking. But then I think the play, other than the kickoff play, I think the play that had everybody talking was the blindside block. And this was in overtime. The Bills, Um, both teams have had a possession for the for you possession people. Both teams had a possession, so um, but the Bills were in and they were in Texan territory. It was a second now play. Alan Alan ran to the Texans
thirty eight yard line. So at that point, if they didn't gain another yard, it would have been a fifty six yard try. Joe knows he can he can make that. He's no easy fifty and half that. So and but we had a blindside block on Cody Ford and and and I think there were a couple you know, this play got a lot of attention, and and Travis you can read, I know Terry mcaualley chimed in, Pereira chimed in, and what what were their takes on it? Yeah, McAuley said,
the players blocking towards his own end line. But the very subjective question would be does he makes forcible contact with the shoulder? And they said, based on what I've seen called and not called this year, I would have to say it is not. So McAuley didn't go so far to say that it clearly wasn't a foul he went more of the path of what we've seen called and not called this year and right. But Pereira had a little bit of a stronger take. Yeah, he said,
I think the call is in correct. He doesn't lead with his shoulder or head, he pushes him. It is a bad call, bad rule. So I I disagree with Mike on that, on that take. I think that look, I I think if you look at the rule this, it's it's impossible to look at the rule the language in the book and say and say this is clearly an incorrect call. You can't because he's moving back towards his own goal line. He does lead with the shoulder, he extends the arms afterward, and so technically, by by
the definition letter of the law, you can't say it's incorrect. Now. I don't think this is the intent of the rule change. I think the rule change was put in to get rid of the blow up block, to get rid of the d the d cleader, the change of direction play, the play where the receiver's peeling back on the defender and the defender can't protect himself or the quarterback Dowor's interception, and get the return play. We have the return play
the the kick return, the punt return. That's what the rule was put in, So it's not a bad rule. I just don't think this is the intent of the rule when you have an offensive lineman who really did not have a It wasn't like he had this long run and line this guy up. He was on the ground, he had just cut somebody. He got up, he took a couple of steps and just try to get his body between the defender and Alan and you see that
from time to time. I don't like the call. I don't think it's the intent of the rule, and I think it's more of just a tweak to the rule in terms of saying, maybe it doesn't apply in close line play. This was just outside the tackle box. So you'd have to look at the language and say this is you know, is this a call we want? Is this fifteen yards? Is this a player's safety issue? And uh, and then fashion the language to to carve out an exception.
I hate exceptions. Again. I just talked about the rule book getting longer and more complicated. This would do that. But I just feel like the intent of the rule was not this block and and it ends up being a big who knows. Look, if if they don't gain another yard, are they even like how has been lights out? But are they even attempting a fifty a fifty six yard or in that situation maybe, but there's risk there.
Who knows, Who knows what would have happened. Third down, they don't get any they got a punt, and they obviously end up losing the game. But but it it was you know, it's a big call in the game, and I think it's a larger discussion about the rule itself. Um, let's go to New England, Tennessee, New England, and and this was not a lot in terms of officiating, but what we did see and if man this is so, you have Mike Rabel who played for Bill Belichick. Bill
Belichick did this against the Jets this year. If Rabel actually did it against the Texans in Week seventeen, this is a situation where you're outside five minutes of the fourth quarter. So think about this. Here's the rule. After a foul, whether that foul is accepted or declined, alright,
the clock goes to wherever it was. If the foul is the only thing that stopped the clock, right, you have a running clock there's fourteen minutes to go in the first quarter, we have a hold, the hold is enforced, and then the clock will wind on the ready. Okay,
that's how it works. Inside of two minutes of the second quarter and inside five minutes of the fourth quarter, after a foul penalty accepted or decline, the clock always goes on the snap, unless we're inside two minutes and there's a ten second runoff potential, there is a defensive foul. Defensive foul that prevents the snap with the clock running inside two minutes. That would be a wine situation. So we're outside five minutes, Tennessee's ahead, they're gonna punt, So
what do they do. Clock is running, They take a delay on the play clock. They were five, they false start, All right, we saw this now. They were warned after that that the next one would be on sportsman like conduct. Belichick was upset, and I think Bill was was just wanted to make sure that they understood because they did it to him when when he when he um did it against the Jets, that it was gonna be on sportsman like if they did it a third time. He
didn't do it a third time. But the problem with this and it's smart. It's smart within the current construct of the rule. But the problem with this is we had at the at the end, at the end of the of the third down play, Okay, I think there was six thirty six on the clock and and yeah, at the end of the play though, right, I think there was six thirty six on the clock. The fourth down snap takes place at Okay, I went back and watched it. That's that's a minute forty five seconds of
game clock with no football. That's bad. That you can't smart for the team. And there's some risks there. There's some risk there too. Oh, they're only have one so it could have backfired. New England could have taken the lead and then they need that time back. So I don't love it. Up one, it ended up working out because they kept the lead, but you know, up by up, that's up by two scores for got it. That's perfect.
But a minute forty five game clock with no football in the most most exciting critical part of the game, that's not good for the game. And I think there's there's a couple of things that have to be looked at. You know, do you give you know, do you give the after the second foul. Is it automatically on the snap? Do you give the offended team the option to go on the snap? There's things that you could do, um
to UH to prevent that. The current rule does say if you take two delay games in a row would be on sportsmanlike. Obviously they circumvented that by going delay game fall start. It was just interesting to see Vrabel do it to the you know, the pupil doing it to the teacher and UH and and it was just interesting to see that because that's something obviously New England had done prior in the year. And and the only thing that that came up. You had mentioned Travis about
the the illegal formation late in the game. Tennessee is trying to run out the clock and and they get called for an illegal formation. And that's a big penalty because we were inside five minutes. That's the time out. That penalty, whether they accepted or decline it, it's a
time out. It was a good call because seventy seven the left tackle was uncovered and they end up with um no no eligible player on the line outside of the tackle, So you can't have a tackle on the end of the line unless he reports, so it was a good call. But you know, the bigger question, nonofficia and related, is this the end of the Is this the end of the dynasty? Have we seen? Have we
seen the last? As Tom Brady going to retire? And I think no, and I think we all agree no, knowing, knowing what I know of Tom Brady, he's not going out like that. No, not with a pick six? Is six as his last as the last past, He's not going out like that. Will he played for the Pats? Will he played for the Pats? I don't know. I think that's that's that's the less definitive, you know answer. I don't know, you know, because obviously he's an numberstricted
free agent. They can't franchise him. Uh So to be interesting to see how that plays out. But there's been reports from Glazer saying he's not going to take the hometown discount this time around. This is essentially his last contract he's gonna get. Yeah. Yeah, And so you know, I think back to like remember and I think and
I think Tom is playing at a higher level. But I think back when Derek Jeter left the Yankees, there was you know that that last contract, there there was some hard feelings because Jeter wasn't the player that he once was and he wasn't gonna give him a hometown discount either. And Kobe too in this is Kobe Jr. Over here, Joe, you know the first time keep Kobe Kobe pick out of franchise in a bad position, got
Mitch cup Check fired years later. Wow, I just said we ever talked about the first time I met Joe, how he was wearing a full Lakers jersey, Kobe jersey full not you're not jersey uniform, shorts and the headband and the headband. Talk about douchebag Kobe didn't wear a headband though, Tell him what day it was though it was Game seven of the finals against the self in a lifetime, I don't care if it was. There's no
justification for a grown man wearing the entire uniform. I don't care what game it was, Game seven, Laker Self. It's that brings me to the question of how you didn't have bothers me, you know, bothers me and I know we're going off subject here, but the bicyclists that were the full on gear, like they're on, like they're
part of the tea. Yeah, like they're everywhere everywhere around here, and they're the equivalent of the guys showing up to play pick up basketball in the full uniform, like in the full uniform with the powder and doing the lebron like, who, I don't get it? Go bike riding? Why do you have to wear You're not look Penn's oil isn't or whoever. They're not promoting you. They're not sponsaid for that. You
paid for that, whatever you call those things. This is the best is when it's the dude is like super out of shape and it's just he's in it. Though, Like I I can appreciate them going out. I can appreciate them. I'm all for it. I can't stand them. It's just I don't they take up that when they're in the lane. You know, my gosh, all you cyclists out there, you gotta pick. You're either gonna be a bike or you're gonna be all. Can't be can't be both? Don't running stop sign and then you can't be both.
If you're gonna be a whistle, thank you. If you're gonna be a car, you gotta stop when cars stop. You have to. You can't. I see him too much. Oh, I'm a car, I have the right of the lane, and then they sign side lights. No, you can't have it both way here, you can't have it both ways. Brady's coming back. I'm not sure it's gonna be with the pay who would be a good chargers people are so it's all speculation. It's a speculation, Indie the Bears,
you know, I mean, these are teams. Who knows. But anyway we have Tom Brady's not retiring, but no chance. All right, let's let's take a break and when we come back, we're gonna talk. We'll talk a little XFL, we'll talk a little CFP and UH, and we'll talk about Joe's choice of attire on Rodeo Drive next difficult, what's funny? It's the last segment. You know, I ain't cutting this, So what's your problem? We're back. I'm good. Calls. I don't know. I just hadn't thought, um, Joe going
right into this. Let's let's go okay, Sorry, I just I don't know. I just had this this thought of Joe. In Beverly Hills, we went, um, I went watch shopping and he had to drop off a watch to get some service and we went watch shopping in Beverly Hills and he was wearing He shows up wearing I showed up in Santa Monica velvet jumpsuit, the lower jumpsuit full head to tell the lord, jumpsuit with these glasses, these sunglasses. I don't know what you were going for the look.
But it was like the video. Did anyone post that? No, it was we we should post it. It was it was like night at the Roxbury. It was you know, I got a lot of compliments. Who are you hanging out with that? You're getting comple who know fashion? I clear Dr Pepper shirt. Yeah, I'm wearing a Dr Pepper shirt. Yeah, because I'm sitting in my own home and relaxing doing the podcast. Dude, that's a nice sweatsuit. It is. It's very nice. I love it was soft, right, it was
very soft. It looked very comfortable. It was you go boss. Yeah again, you go boss. So maybe anyway, and I think I did send Yeah, you sent me to trying. I sent Travis the video of Joe walking down drive. Dean followed me around like I'm like, like he was a celebrity and it was on him around. You have to be a celebrity or something that is as I said, like, you're like, well, what level, like like D D level? That day, I remember you, Yeah, were on. I did
move him up. I moved him up to a D because of the acknowledged by any he was watch shopping on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. So I'm like, you you're now a D list celebrity. I need to come out because that's what I was saying. I got fomo not being out with you. I got to change that on my Instagram D level, D level. He did. Yeah, so over over the weekend he also sorry we cut that. I don't know, I'm not cutting where we talked about cutting? What do you what's the question? The question XFL? Well,
you know it's funny because it's not. I mean, I've been working consulting with the XFL for a while now and helping them develop their rules and putting together in officiating staff, and they did just you know, they they're making more announcements as the seasons coming up, and I know Pro Football Talk put out a you know, a post about it, and uh yeah, So I'm just you know, I'm I'm the head of the officiating UM basically helping them put together the staff, the rules, and it's gonna
be I'm excited about it. I'm excited about just being a part of that. And I think there's gonna be some, um, some really interesting and innovative ways to you know, looking at the rules and the game and and the pace, and I think you're gonna see, you know, there's gonna be kickoffs are gonna look different. I think over time is gonna be different. You know, you're gonna have um tries. So the kickoff is gonna be. The kickoff is gonna be.
You're gonna have ten players of the kicking team stationary at the plus thirty five so at the return teams thirty five yard line, and then ten teams ten players in the return team at the thirty so they're five yards apart, and you have a kicker deep and you have a returner deep, and the kicker kicks off, and
the twenty players, the blockers and the coverage team. They can't leave the restraining line until the ball is either touched or if it hits the ground after three seconds, and so I think, you know, the idea is to eliminate some of those high speed collisions and those high velocity velocity collisions and make it more like a scrimmage play and close proximity blocking and uh and so over time, I think it's gonna be really cool where you're gonna have it's kind of gonna be like a soccer um,
you know, uh, kicks and and and it's gonna be you know, right now, either into the field and you're gonna have each team is gonna have five tries from the five yard line. Each trial was worth two points, and you go one on one side, one on the other, and whoever scores the most points in five wins and uh and you keep you if you're tied after five, you go one for one and uh and so it's gonna be really interesting. I think it's gonna be exciting.
And then and then I think from a scoring perspective, it's gonna be interesting with them sold on. So each team gets five plays from their five yard line. That's overtime from the opponent's five yard on lift. So it goes I get five, you get five, or it goes one on one one. So they're both lined up, So got the defense on one side, How are you gonna
place the officials on that. Well that that's the challenge, and I think we're gonna have so you'll have four officials, there's a total for the normal game, you have four on each side, and you also have the replay official that can help out. UM still looking at at their training camps coming up in Houston, and uh they're gonna have some preseason game better and and I know Houston,
and UH, we're gonna try some different things. So it's just really cool to be a part of that process to say, you know what, let's let's see how this works or let's do and the goal is the goal is going to be pace of play and to keep the game moving, second play clock with a ball spotter, So eight officials and then just one dedicated ball spotter that's gonna put the ball down one the clock and uh and the other thing I think is cool is
going to be the tries. And they're gonna have a one point try, a two point try, and a way for it three point try, three point try one one. You get one. If you go from the two yard line, you get too. If you go from the five yard line, you get three. If you go from the ten yardline. So the nine point game is no longer to score games. So it's gonna be really interesting to see how the coaches do that and uh and and how they how they you know, do they always go for two from
the five? Do they? You know? When when that when will that three point try? And I think that's gonna have, you know, be interesting from a gambling perspective too. With the scoring, it's gonna be tough to for thesmakers. That's gonna be correct. It's just a different it's just a different deal. And these are all there's no pet are all, there's no kick tries. It's all so it's one from the how far? Tell us again? One from the one, from the two, two from the five, three from the ten.
That's cool, it would be fun. That's interesting. Yeah, So you know, do you just like signal to the official and like yeah, they elect, okay, we're going one, two or three. They put them all down and we go and uh and so I think that's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna be fun to see how it how it all plays out. Nobody why go for one? There's never a reason to go
for one. I don't think the only Yeah, I think most teams, at least you look at I think most teams will probably go for two and they'll only go for three unless they need it if it makes sense score wise. One. I I can one. If the game is tied, I think maybe you go for one. It's gonna be interesting to see how it how it plays. There's a pick uh interception and then return for that to whatever whatever they were offense was going for the defense.
And then what about aren't they um putting ropes around the field? Oh Joe, that was awful. Come on, that was good that that was that? It was the rest wrote from the field. Yeah, there you go, boy, Travis. I would expect it j to come up with that, but no, there will will be no ropes on the field. Let's uh, let's shift gears. Let's talk about the college football Championship game. Travis is Travis, Who's gonna win? I
actually think you've been on clips stop now. I know, I know, I am and and I wish I wish I could say that I think Clemson's gonna win. I just think ELS's a better team. But I do like that they're in there and they get to you know, at least defend their their time. You do like that, You like the fact that I like that they're there. Everything's rights. Whoever won the championship gets to defend their title,
So why not? What don't play the seats? You're still no, no, no. If you're undefeated and you've won it like you should, you should have been the number one seats, all right. So Clemson h L s U. It's gonna be I think it's gonna be a great game. I'm like, I'm excited. Obviously, you know the game being in New Orleans with L s U, I would imagine it would be a very pro L s U crowd, But it's it's gonna be a lot of fun. I think I like L s U. But I don't think you can count out Clemson just
because of I think Trevor Lawrence is is. I mean, I think he I think he stepped up big time against so how State, and I think that he could he could do it again. A long touchdown run, he had, any moment, could could score from anywhere. I think I just hoping it's going to be a good close. It's gonna be New Oran is gonna be crazy that week. It'll be it'll be nuts. Um let's uh, you know, I do want to talk about who do you guys think is gonna win the game? I think they cover
two five and a half spread. Um, So the Golden Globes were someday and there was a lot of I don't know if you guys saw social media about Ricky Gervais and his monologue and things, you know, and he says, and I look, I I've always been a fan because I think Ricky Gervais just doesn't give an f right and he just says what's on. And if you may not, yeah, you may not like him or or or hate him, you can't. You can't deny the guy is talented. You look at I mean the office, you look at all
the shows, all the things that he's done. Um, I mean there's just go and watch it. Was the show was called Life Is Sure on h three and and he had these shows, him and Stephen Merchant and they didn't last very long on HBO, but they were so good. And there's a scene just just YouTube it where where this is about? This is about um Warwick. Uh, I can't think of his last name, but war Warwick. He's
a he's an actor. He's a little person and he's been in Harry Potter, he was in Return of the Jedi, and it's about his life as a as a actor. And he's yeah, so so Wark Davis. So he's um and he's friends with Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant on the show. And there's a scene where he goes to their office and Liam Neeson shows up and Liam Neeson wants to do comedy and it is one of the funniest scenes you will ever see. It's one of the best written scenes with Liam Neeson. Just YouTube it, trust
me and watch Liam Neeson on Life is Short? Too Short? Is too short? Right? Life's too short? Um, And trust me. I can't get into it, but trust me, just watch it. So Ricky Gervais like I love made him and so he said a lot of controversial things and then like like my mom is like on Facebook and she's like arguing with people about he was the best part of
the show. And and Hollywood all these these like liberal Hollywood people that they're they're so offended and I'm like, Mom, what do you And it's just like that's how I grew up. And my dad was like the same like they didn't. They just there was no peac nous. They just made fun of every And my mom's like an immigrant, Like my mom came here when she was seventeen, like didn't speak English, like cried herself to sleep for six
months because she was upset. My grandfather took them away from Italy and like, so she should be embracing, you know, all of this. And my mom's like on Facebook, like arguing with people about how Ricky Gervais was the best part of the Golden Globes. So I love that people are still arguing on Facebook. That was like a thing like ten years ago. Are you on Facebook? We have the President of United States using Twitter as the way of notifying. All right, we can't talk about that's politics
into it. Let's let's go brain of Blandino. What do you got, Joe? All right, Brandon Blandino, here we go. Every movie that has bowling in it is good, Big Lebowski, Kingpin, Okay too, whatever, So that was the thought. So so I was thinking, you're like everything they've never seen bowing in in it has been good, Big Lebowski, Kingpin that I ran out of the movies. But they're both great.
Movies I've never seen either. Okay, so, so big Lebowski is like an acquired taste, and there's some people that we've had this conversation before. But big Lebowski is It's it's a cult classic. Jeff Bridges is unbelievable. John Goodman should have won an Academy Award. But Kingpin is might be one of the most underrated comedies of all times.
Great Bill Murray in Kingpin might be one of the most underrated characters in an In an underrated comedy of all time, watch king out Awards since it's I'm giving out awards awards season and so but yeah, so, any is there any other bowling movie there? I see I got like a top ten list Dreamer from ninety nine.
It was number one, and they have Kingpin number two, Strikes and Spares from nineteen thirty four, watching that Life in the Bowling Lane nineteen thirty four, Yeah, I mean, and then Big Lebowski number five, way underrated, Sorority Babes and Slinball bowl Arama. That sounds like your own personal you read your your schedule recordings, is that what you're doing that We've got Tom and Jerry bowling and this
is the Bowling Alley Cat. So I mean the list gets uh a little interesting towards the bottom here, I AMDB, so there's not a ton You're right, big Lebowski, and I guess that's it. Are awesome, So I think we need more bowling movies. Yeah, we need more. Let's write a bowling movie. Well there's one. Look at I just I was scrolling through the Brandon Landiana. There's just one other one. I'd love to just throw a little double dough Travis, How excited were you in Napoleon Dynamite came out? So?
How didn't even boling? Like? How how excited were people in Wyoming when Napoleon don't Wyoming Nights? But I can say that I didn't even know what was coming out. I saw a lot. How is that not like a thing? Like? How is that not? Oh my? Did you hear about their filming this movie? And it should have been like I think it was filmed. It was filmed in Idah? Was it supposed to be based in Wyoming? I don't know was it? But I tell you what when I did see it the first time, I didn't watch it
was like I couldn't finish it. Wait, maybe it did take place to Idaho. I think it was Idaho. But but it's that whole like Idaho Wyoming like at all, because I don't Wyoming border each other. Yes, yeah, so it's I feel like Wyoming nights. Maybe maybe How jealous were you when Napoleon? I told you, I didn't even I didn't even know. This should have been art, This should have been arts, This should have been why they do it? Idah? Yeah, exactly, idiots? Can you do that
given my jopstick? Idiots? All right, that's it, We're done. This has been good Calls with Dean Blandino. Please follow me on Twitter at Dean Blandino, on Instagram at Dean dopp Blandino. Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at Rules Podcast, and be sure to Radar podcast on the Heart Radio app and on Apple Podcasts on