NFL Week 3 - Brady Quinn Interview and TB12 Tweets About Too Much Holding?

you asked. How was my weekend? Okay, overall, had a good weekend. I want to share. Saturday night, I went to see one of my favorite comedians here in l A at the Orpheum Theater, Tom Segura, and I was so excited. I had not seen Tom live. If you check him out, he's hilarious YouTube. He's got a couple of Netflix specials. But I was really pumped to see him live. And Uh, I went to the show and I just didn't. I didn't have a great time. I didn't. I just felt I left and I just wasn't happy.

And I was kind of reflecting on the show, and I realized why I wasn't happy because the guy next to me was laughing so over the top and overreacting at every joke. He ruined my experience, like not every

joke is that funny. I love Tom Sagura, but he because he was laughing so much, it made my enjoyment that much less, like literally laughing like he was an NBA player at All Star Game, you know, on the sideline watching the dunks, like that was his reaction every joke, and like every joke isn't a tent right, right, every every joke is not Vince Carter, like in in the Slam Dunk Contest too thousand. I think it was in Oakland where he or spud Web, you know, like not

every dunk is Dominique Wilkins. And this guy ruined the Tom Sagura show. And this guy you didn't know him, No, I didn't know him, Like here's some complete stranger. And then he's like looking from my he's like looking for affirmation from me that the joke was that. Why aren't you laughing? Like hitting me, like hitting me when the left, like I was funny, but it wasn't that funny, Like stop you're killing ruined. It ruined the show for me, so I might have to go And I think, I

don't know, I think Cigar. I think Tom is gonna be in like Australian next so I might have to fly to Australia. It sounds like him podcast on the on the Road exactly. Personal foul against the gentleman. Personal foul. Nice there's the whistle, look at you. The audio guy finally figured sound effects. Nice job. But that wasn't the worst thing that happened to me this weekend. Okay, the real tragedy of the weekend. I was Friday night. I

was driving home. I was was that the USC game and great game, USC big win be the top ten team Utah and UH with a third string quarterback by the way, but a great, great game. I was driving home, I was starving and it was Taco Bell, so I made a run for the border. I went to Taco Bell, got to the drive through. I was so excited. I had my music playing, I was upbeat hip hop. I was just pumped. And my favorite item on the menu when I go to Taco Bell is the double decker

Taco Supreme. So that's my go to it's like pull up. She asked me, hey, can I help you? Welcome to Taco Bell can help you. I like, you can absolutely help me. I want to double decker Taco Supremes. And I was like, gonna order I don't know something else after that, and she stopped me. She's like, sir, I'm sorry. We changed the menu. We don't have that on the menu anymore. And then she said, sensing my like a disappointment,

my anguish, I'll give you a minute. And I lived and I legitimately, I swear to God, I said, I'm going to need more than a minute. Change the music too, I like put on air supply right, I put on It was just it was so sad. So they changed the menu. They took the double decker Taco Supreme. I went on. Then I went and googled it. I don't even know what I ordered. I couldn't get out. I wanted to get out of line, but you're stuck because you've got people in front of you, people behind you.

I google it in the car after I ordered some I don't know Jalupa whatever it is, but no, I'm in the drive through trouvers Chalupa whatever the heck it is, and I googled it literally on the Wikipedia. It's it's a double decker Taco Supreme was an offering at Taco Bell Like it's already past tense, it didn't. We just order those a couple of weeks ordered. And for those of you that don't know what the double decko Tacos Supreme is, it's a taco, right, it's a normal taco,

hard shell taco. But the beautiful part is you have the refried beans and a flower tortilla wrapped around the taco. The hard taco, the soft taco. It just creates that. You know, you have the soft, the flower tortilla, the hard corn shell of the of the taco. It's unbelievable, little hot sauce. Alright, they're not a sponsor, Okay, not yet, but gone no more taco double decker Taco still has the double decker taco. They call it a taco Bramo. What's that Taco John's? Taco John's? Do they have Taco

John's here in l A? All right, well, well we'll find anyway. Okay, well we'll get to Wyoming water Travis relaxed with Wyoming, but we got a great show, Joe, what time? What time were gonna publish the show? Um today later on? What time do you think they wanted for the drive home on the East Coast and the East coast two o'clock two pm, two pm Pacific? What is that? You know? What? What? What's that? Mountain time? Oh? See everyone, everyone, I ask if you ask somebody, you said,

what time is it? And they tell you and then you go, what does that mountain time? They have to think about the thing. They have to think about it exactly. It's the most it's the most neglected time zone in the US. Like nobody, nobody's like, oh that's you know, the game is four o'clock eastern, one o'clock Pacific, four o'clock eastern, three o'clock Central. No one throws mountain in there. So I am I'm making a decree, a rules decree.

Wyomis on mountain time? Of course it is. So we are going to only use mountain time when we discuss when we discuss time. So you guys start prushing up on your mountain time because nobody it's like in the Broncos right home Bronco game, what time is it normally? Startle eleven Mountain. If we're going to the early window, they don't play at eleven mountains. They're usually in the late slot. I'm just trying to they don't play see exactly,

they don't. You don't start football games at eleven local NFL, then doesn't happen. They're playing at two oh five or alright whatever, moving on, Moving on, Speaking of NFL, let's get to the NFL. A lot to talk about. Thursday night was crazy, Okay, crazy the first half, right, So Thursday night it's the Jaguars and Titans in Jacksonville. It's raining, it's muddy, it's sloppy, and fifteen fouls in the first half,

eight holding calls in the first half, right, So what happens? Okay, we have this first half, first play of the game from scrimmage, you have a holding call, all these things. It's sloppy, it's messy, and somebody gets on Twitter and and somebody, you know who's pretty new to Twitter by the way, but my man TB twelve man Tom Brady said, you know what, I've had enough of this and I'm gonna take to Twitter. Travis, what what did he tweet? So his first tweet, he says, quote, too many penalties,

just let us play hashtag Tennessee versus Jackson. I love I love Travis, Like That's how Tom was saying it. As Tom was tweeting it, he was saying it like that, like with that kind of conviction and and feel it it went viral, right, I mean what, Travis? So yeah, I had like nine thousand likes and and like just over eleven thousand like retweets. Insane, insane. And then as if that's not enough to make matters worth worse, he doubles down. Seven minutes later, he says, I'm turning this game.

I'm turning off this game. I can't watch these ridiculous penalties anymore. Hashtag Tennessee versus jacks that the hashtag is the best part to like Tom knows Twitter Like, Tom's like, we want this to trend, so we're gonna go hashtag. You don't think Tom has somebody tweeting for him. I don't know, but that that tweet had went even more viral hundred and twenty eight thousand likes in twenty three tweets. So so Tom is upset. He's he's watching the game,

doing his thing. He tweets, he turns the game off and magically, magically, fifteen fouls in the first half, the third quarter clean nothing, no fouls. I was on with Rich Eyes and Friday, and Rich described it because Shawn Hockeyley was the referee, and he said, in the first half it was t MH, too much hockey lely. In the third quarter it was n m H, no more hockey ly and and so fifteen fouls first half, Brady tweets no fouls in the third quarter. It was a

little curious, weird. Do you think that anyone from the league maybe gave a call to the crew at the half? You know, I thought about that, and I'd be shocked. I would be shocked. If you know, Goodell is watching the game, Goodell calls River and he's like, oh, what the hell. Al's like, I'm gonna call Sean Sewan? What the hell? I that that. I'd be shocked if that happened. As you don't, you know, you don't interrupt or inject yourself from the league office into a game like that

when you talk about calling penalties. You know, in an ideal world, look, it's the two teams that are going to decide how many fouls there are and you let the officials officiate the game. Um So, to answer your question, no, I don't believe that happened. So in the time that you were the VP, did you ever call down from the control center and make any requests like that. I was actually the senior VP when I left the NFL Joe, But thanks um so when you were the senior VP,

thank you, thank you. You know, there was there was a handful of times that I did communicate with the crew during the game. One that stood out was during the I believe it was the two thousand fifteen season Panthers Giants, and it was the game where um oh, b J and Josh Norman were going at it. There was an issue pre game and and then they had had multiple personal fouls and and so I communicated with the crew that we had to get the game under control and that and that if there were any more

personal fouls that you have to consider rejecting players. Now. Now, I didn't tell them don't call fouls or qual more qualmore fouls. It was just a player it's a player safety thing, it's a control thing. So that was something that I did I felt compelled to do. Very rarely would that ever happen. But that was one instance where where I did do that, and uh, and you know it was it was warranted. I felt in that in that moment. But but again, um, I just think it.

Look the third quarter, there just weren't any foul So there wasn't anything that raised that level. It was a coincidence it happens. Um. I think that there was. There was some holding calls. I think two more in the fourth quarter, and uh, and I think there were and I think they ended up twenty two fouls for the game. Imagine coaches in the locker room to a like, let's stop this, stop holding, like you guys play the game the way it should be. Well, yeah, there's certainly teams

will make adjustments. The officiating crew could make adjustments at halftime. They could get together because officials know when when officials, the one person that knows when a call is solid or if a call is shaky is that official and they and they know when they throw the flag when it's there or if they have the second guests themselves and they think, you know what, I'd like to have that one back. So the crew might have got together at halftime and just said you know what, you know,

let's we're being a little bit overly technical. Let's try to clean it up in the second half. Let's make sure that the fouls are there. And I think that that may certainly have been something that happened in the in the halftime in the locker room. UM. But then so interesting we have Thursday night and uh, and then Saturday night, on the eve of the games on Sunday, the league has a conference call with the referee. So so the senior vice president officiating our river N has

a conference call with all seventeen referees. And we learned about this um via and Kevin Seffert from ESPN posted an article about it. And so the gist of the call was to talk about offensive holding, where where they were and to make sure that all seventeen crews were on the same page as it pertained two holding and and and so UM. This is something that on the eve of the game took on the eve of the games on Sunday took place, and it definitely had an effect.

And when you look at up until that point, including the game Thursday, first two weeks and the one game Thursday, we were averaging five five point six holds per game hundred and eighties seven holding calls in thirty three games in the In the fourteen games on Sunday, okay, there were forty one holding calls two point nine, so a drastic dec reece in holes. And and I think it's fair to say that that that decrease had something to

do with that call. I don't think that the players just stopped holding at a clip of you know, almost half and uh, you know that changed. You know, the players adjusted um from Thursday to Sunday, so so definitely had something to do with that call. And we believe on that call. Again, get on the same page. Let's make sure that the holds are there. And uh and the focus obviously from the competition committee standpoint was they

want to get see the backside holding cleaned up. Then, when you were the head officiating, the senior vice president, thank you. Did you have these calls during the week and and when did you have? You know you do have It's not unusual. Look, this isn't unusual for a phone call to happen with the referees on a Saturday.

And and you certainly why that is is because you have all of the referees Um, there are fifteen sixteen games the ending on you know, buys and things like that, so, uh, you have all of the referees in the city for that game and uh, and so they're already going through their pregames, so it is a good time sometimes to get all the referees together. So not unusual to have

a phone call. But if you're gonna have a phone call about something as important as holding, and certainly based on where we've been the first two weeks of the regular season, where the numbers have been so high, you would want at least in my opinion, to have that call during the week officials are graded. They go through every call on Wednesday, so the officiating department, the supervisors h Riverant, they look at all the calls and everything

for the week on Wednesday. I would have that call Wednesday night, get all the referees on the same page, and then because the key is you have to communicate if you're gonna make a change in philosophy on holding and not saying that's what was said on the call, but the numbers certainly would would lead you to believe

that something changed. You would have that call on Wednesday during the week and then you can put a tape together and let the clubs know, hey, here's here's what it's gonna look like this week, so the clubs can adjust. Because remember they're coaching their players. They know that the

league has been calling holding. We got to make sure not that they're not that they're gonna say, okay, well we're gonna get away with holding, but at least put a tape together and say, these are examples of what are is a foul, and these are examples of what is not a foul. So everybody's on the same page. And I think that's where you know, if it were me,

that's what that's what I would have done. Um and again because the numbers do, look, that call had something to do with it, because when you go from five point six to two point nine per game, that's a drastic, drastic drop. And I did here. Look, I heard from at least two clubs. I had one club call me to find out if there was a call, so so that obviously tells me that the clubs were not made aware of the phone call and that that call happened

on Sunday. And then and then I had another club that again asked me about the call, and they were they were pretty upset that that call had happened and without the clubs being notified of any potential changes. So so again something to you know, I think this is going forward. I agree, I think we were a little

bit out of whack withholding. But if you're gonna make that philosophy change, certainly the competition committee has to be on board, and you want to alert the clubs to to any kind of change when it comes to something so critical to the game that can happen on any play when you're talking about offensive holding. So you know, and it was interesting just how it all played out from a timing perspective for sure. All right, let's shift gears. Let's go to past inference. Obviously this has been a

hot topic and it continued this week. We had a bunch of reviews for past inference, nine total for the week so far, and this doesn't include the game Monday night obviously, so nine total reviews. There were three that involved offensive past inference, six that involved defensive past in deference and uh and and of the nine reviews only one was overturned. There was a dp I in Tampa that was not called on the field that was created in a replay. So so again we're looking at these.

This is the majority of the replay reviews are now past in afference reviews, and I think that will continue throughout the season. And uh and and it was just

it was interesting. One of our games on Sunday was the Lions Eagles games game, and there was two plays in that game that really stood out for me as we talked about replay and uh and so you had you had Miles Sanders returns a kickoff in the in the second quarter and literally gets his helmet ripped off, face mask, helmet ripped off, head turned around, big time, face masks. Player safety. No call. Okay, so look, the referee who's responsible um in that situation trailing to play,

just didn't see it either either he got screened. He just didn't see it. But you have that foul, that's an obvious foul that's missed, that involved player safety. No recourse can't can't review it. A little bit later in the game, then you get a deep pass ruled incomplete Detroit's on offense. Detroit challenges that it was d p I. We're looking at it for two and a half minutes. We don't have enough evidence and ruling on the field stands.

So we go from an obvious player safety foul, that's that would be an easy reversal, um not not being able to review that, but we're reviewing the subjective past inference. You know, was there enough contact, was it significant? Um? Did it hinder the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball. So so again I just feel like maybe maybe if this continues, what we could see going forward next year and beyond is some of these players safety fouls being reviewable similar what the n c A

does and targeting versus the subjective calls. Because like you guys are in the studio, you see it, I mean from game to game. And this is not again, this is not an indictment on the decision making. It's just a hard call to be consistent on. It's impossible, it's

it's subjective. It's never going to be a percent in my opinion, if they're going back looking at it because one guy looks at one thing, another guy looks at another thing, it's gonna be we we all even disagree and on the student the studio, and we all interpret everything differently. And I'll give you the other play that was from the Tampa Giants game where Pat Shermer challenged that there was offensive pass and inference on a play where where his defender was actually went to the ground.

The receiver had his arm on the on the shoulder of the defender, they went to the ground. No call on the field, Sherman challenges and ruling on the field stood now. I I was texting with a couple of other of the rules analyst. Terry mcaulay thought it was an obvious foul. John Parry thought it was probably a foul. I I thought their feet tangled. I thought they were playing the ball. Their feet tangled. I thought the the hand on the shoulder didn't necessarily drag the defender to

the ground. So the three of us weren't even on the same page. So what is the league gonna do? Right that that's a call that you have to let stand if it's not obvious. So I think they made the right call in that situation. But it just it just goes to show how tough that is. And and

that's a tough call. You think it's tough, and replay about watching it live at full speed and then running running at full speed as an official, having to watch the contact, having to watch then catch, no catch, having to look for all these different things, and uh and make that call in real time. That's it's tough. It's tough. Last thing NFL sticking in Tampa Giants Tampa, we had two plays past fumble situations UM one on each side. So Jamis Winston gets hit ball, comes out, Giants pick

it up, return it. Ruling on the field was a fumble covered by the defense, comes back and replay, reversed in complete pass, correct ruling and replay. A little bit later on, Daniel Jones gets hit ball, comes out, rule to fumble on the field, Tampa gets to return it, comes back and replay forward past correct call and replay. Interesting. Do you think the Saints Rams play last week had anything to do with these calls officiated on Sunday? I

think so. And I think, look, this isn't new. It's not a new philosophy to let the play play out if you're not sure. But I do think the magnitude of that play last week, and and and a lot the attention that it got, and obviously being a critical play at that time during the game, I think it was probably reinforced with the referees that look, if you're not sure, let it go and replay can always come back. The referee on that game, who I think is, if not the best, one of the best referees in the

league today, Bill Vinovich, veteran referee. UM, he let it go and and they were both passes, but rather than yess on maybe something he didn't see quite clearly, he let it go. Replay can come back and fix it again with the lay in the game a little bit, but you don't take away a potential touchdown, a potential long return from a team UM by killing it prematurely and uh and not letting replay be able to come in and fix it. So it was definitely it was

definitely an interesting um scenario. You think every time the Rams and Saints play, there's gonna be a rule change or you know, I think the league, I think the league and the schedule makers need to like, maybe maybe let's not have the Rams Saints play in the regular season. If they meet in the playoffs, we can't control that, but maybe we don't. Maybe we kind of give that match up. You know a couple of you know, they're

not in the same division. So so maybe we can figure out a way where they don't play each other because to Joe's point, that game, you know, at least the last two times it hasn't been it hasn't been great for the for the officiating. Uh, let's take a break. This is Good Calls, a production of Heart Radio. Right back, Welcome back to Good Calls. We're gonna shift years and we're gonna talk a little from college crazy ending to the cow Old Miss game right, nonconference cal undefeated, Old Miss.

I think old Mrs two and one. Maybe I'll set it up for you, Old Mrs Down. They're out of timeouts, they're driving third and goal. John Reese plumbly completes the past to Elijah More at the goal line. Is it a touchdown? Is it not a touchdown? He's right, It looks it's close. Right at the goal line. The official is all over it. Decisive rules catch in the field of play, clock running, running, running, old This gets lined up. No replay review. Reese Plumbly QB sneak on fourth and

goal stop short, no replay review. Fans on the field, teams on the field, the band is on the field. Game over or was it Travis, there was a yes, Yeah, the intermediate miss Keith Keith Carter. He has put out a statement after the game. He said, We're extremely disappointed with officiating at the end of the game and are expecting a full explanation from the Pack twelve regarding the call and subsequent non review of the third down play.

He continued, we feel strongly that the play should have been reviewed by the Pack twelve officials in the review booth. Even if the play didn't result in a touchdown, the spot of the ball on fourth down was questionable. End quote. So do you think Den Dean what what should have happened there? Yeah, It's an interesting situation and it is This is when replay officials, replay officials truly earned their money. This is a situation I've been I've been a part

of replay since the NFL brought it back. I've worked with NFL replay officials, I ran the program. I've worked with college replay officials since two thousand five when the Big Ten was testing replay, and we have talked about this situation, this specific situation, and mechanically what we teach is if the offense is out of time outs near the end of the game, and the play ends with the clock running and it's close. It's questionable. Certainly here

goal line obviously a big play. Mechanically, you wait to see if the offense can get legally lined up before time expires. Once they get legally lined up and there's time on the clock, you have to stop the game. You watch the play, Old Bus gets lined up and there's between three and two secons and it's just changing from three to two when old Miss gets lined up. At that point, the replay official has to stop the game.

And the thinking and the theory is what you don't want to do is you don't want to stop the game with eight seconds and old mrs scrambling and they're never gonna get lined up. Now you've stopped the game. You don't change the call in the field. What have you given them? Given him a time out? You've basically given him a time out, but you've given them another snap that they would not have been entitled to. So you wait to see if they were gonna get lined up.

So then with two seconds on the clock, you stop the game. If you don't change it now, there's no advantage they would have had another snap with two seconds. You have to look at that to see if it's a score. You can't just say I'm not going to stop the game because I don't want to give them a time out. Well what if it was a touchdown? Now we still don't know enough, and I would say on the fourth down play, So that's mechanically what you do what should have happened. Stop the game as soon

as old Miss gets lined up. If you change it to a touchdown, great, it's a touchdown, You reset the clock. Away we go. If you don't, then you're gonna tell oh Miss the ruling on the field stands. You gotta get up on the ball. We're gonna wind the clock on the ready for play. So with two seconds on the clock, Old Miss can't spike it. By rule, you gotta have three or more when you're gonna wind the clock, and they'd have to run a play quickly snap it

and then run the play. So that's what should have happened there in the fourth down play. Look time expires, I think you gotta just immediately stop the game, even if you think he's short. Stop the game, because what do we have now about this situation? What do we what do we have questions. Nobody knows what what ifs questions? If you follow those mechanics, then look, we reviewed it. There wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. It was handled correctly.

Even the fourth down play. We looked at it. It wasn't clear and obvious or we confirmed it and we're done. So we don't have these questions. We don't have the d from all miss making these statements asking for an explanation. That's the goal you want to you want to put it to bed during the game and mechanically, and we've taught that at both the NFL and the college football level UM and so that that's what should have happened.

Did they get it right in the end though, you know, that's a great question, and and you know I have seen since since the game on on Saturday. I have seen some angles and I do think at least at the very least, they would not have been able to overturn the third down play. I do think the official got it right. There was never a look down the line,

at least I haven't seen one. But it does look like when the receiver, remember he controls the past, and he may control the past in the end zone, but he's not contacted by a defender, so there's no forward progress. He's coming back on his own. So the spot is gonna be where the ball is when he's down. So when his knee hits shin, whatever body part that put him down, where's the ball in relation to the goal line,

that's gonna be the spot. And it looked like that spot was in the field of play, but that we have never seen a definitive angle. I do think they got it right. The fourth down play, we did see

a goal line shot. It did look short. But again, you can't leave those type of questions out there right If you follow the mechanics, then I think I think everybody would feel a little bit better about what took place because right now, obviously Old Miss is looking for an explanation and UH, and I would imagine the Pact twelve is going to have to is gonna have to, you know, either make a statement or communicate internally with Old Miss and UH and clean it up that way.

I have a question for you, then, Dean. So you see now on on Monday night football, you have the down the line shot on the on the on the line of scrimmage. Do you see it. Ever, going to the having cameras on pylons at the goal line and also on the line of scrimmage in first down line. Absolutely, I think a lot of the networks are doing that.

They have pylon cam um. Typically when you have a goal to go situation, you would hope that the cart is gonna be all Sometimes you gonna have cars because they're not room in college exactly exactly, so each production is different. That's why the concept of fixed cameras is so interesting because you don't have to worry about what what camera package the broadcast network is using. You already have the boundary lines lines covered, and I think that's

something that's certainly um the NFL has looked at. But with college football, you know, you've got different conferences, you've got different levels, you've got different different resources. Uh So I think it's something that we may see at the Division one level or even or even uh you know, the bigger conferences. But it's definitely an interesting concept and something that we need to continue to explore in both college and in the NFL. Let's go to our head

scratcher call of the week. We still don't have a sponsor. We're hoping Marie steps up, Travis, your hair looks I mean, I did my hair like phenomenal, immaculate your hair two weeks ago. And and the shine shower you can shampoo. It's unbelievable. Murray's is right there. We just did a Murray. We're in okay, Michigan, Wisconsin. All right, this is a big, big matchup. This is this is not just big ten. This this is college football playoff implications versus thirteen in Wisconsin.

Early on, UM Wisconsin has the ball second down shape Patterson looks like a completed past to Ronnie Belt, it's gonna be a first down, big game, diving catch. Michigan's moving the ball. It was only seven nothing at the time, I believe, and goes to review and it's overturned incomplete. The replay official rule that the ball hit the ground and and came loose. UM Michigan then doesn't convert on third down. Wisconsin gets the ball and scores on the

next possession. So we go from seven nothing, potentially Michigan driving to tie the game or even kick a field though, to down fourteen nothing. Looked at the play, we weren't on the game. Mike Pereira our colleague at Fox Sports was on the game. Mike agreed that was not an incomplete pass. I mean, Paterson looked like he had his hands on the ball the entire time the ball. Maybe there was some slight movement, but there was never anything that looked like loss of control. The ruling on the

field was a catch, certainly wasn't clear and obvious. I would have overturned into a catch if the ruling on the field was incomplete and it was hands on the ball, no loss of control, maintained control and and so it was a big at the time. Look, the game ended up out of reach, I think it was, but at the time, that's a big momentum change because again Wisconsin gets the ball and Jonathan Jonathan Taylor goes for like a seventy five yard touchdown run and and pretty much

at that point Michigan was was deflated. And it was a big momentum swing in the game. And so that's our head scratcher. Nice Travis Night. There you go. So that's that's college football. And I do now, I want to I want to take some time. You know, it takes a big man to admit when he's when he's done something wrong, and and I am I can admit when I stepped over the line. And and Travis, you know our first episode we talked about you being from Wyoming.

I think I made a comment about, um, you know, you being very white. You know, I think I said, I mean, look, bottom line is Travis is I mean, he's pretty, he's pretty white, like he's he's Portland's is my favorite city? White? Right, Like that's Travis, I like exactly, And so I made I made it. I poked a little fun at Wyoming and Travis then like in all seriousness, came up to me and we had a little conversation. Travis, won't you share share listeners? What? Um? What we talked about? Yeah?

So all right, buddies in my mom and my dad listened to the show and they're like, yeah, we love the show, Dean, but why why so much hate for Wyoming? My mom. My mom was like I can't believe this. And I told her I was going to tell you, and she's like, no, no, don't tell Dean. And she's like like terrified me. I didn't. I honestly didn't mean to offend anybody. I didn't mean to offend the fifteen people from my own that watched the show or listened to the show. We did. I guess we did get

into um, you know, buying a town in Wyoming. I guess and we did. There was a town in Wyoming that was for saying a few years back there was a town called Aladdin, Wyoming with fifteen population and it was for sale at one point for one point five million. It ended up going coming off the market and then being sold for about four reduction. To say, it was on the MLS for for a while. It got the listing got stale and it's like you know what the broker was like, I need I need a re action

in price. They brought it down. They did sell it though they did. Do you get everything? And that? What do you get? Like if I buy a Laddin, Wyoming? What do I get? Like? Do I have general store, the post office? I get the like are the people like a part of that deal? Like I can't imagine? Do I know he bought us exactly know, But you guys are working on you. You're in low wages. But do you I imagine if I buy the town, I become like like Brad Wesley in Roadhouse, Wow, like he

he owned that town. He did, he did whatever the f he pleased, like Bred until until who came to town? Dalton? Until Dalton came to town five six five six fifty pounds. But he was a badass he came to town. Meanwhile, the bar in in Roadhouse double Due. When you went into the will do before Dalton got there? Who when

does that ever happen? Like? When when do you go in and there's legit like people dying fights like I've seen obviously We've been in our share of bar fights, but this is like you go in there and every three seconds there's like mayhem, like mayhem, and Dalton comes in cleans it up. But bred Wesley owned that town like he did whatever he wanted. They drove the monster truck like through the car dealership. They burned the one

guys that the store down, drove helicopters around, come around. Unbelievable. I feel like that's if I buy a Laddin Wyoming, I wanna be Bread. Yes, right, you're gonna If I'm gonna name, oh absolutely, it's gonna be Dino Wyoming. Boom, there you go. So I do want to apologize to the people of Wyoming, anybody that that I offended. I'm not. I actually said, like, I want to go to Wyoming. I hear Jackson Hole is beautiful, and I definitely want to. I wanna all all those people came back for the

second episode. Course of course they did. They love us, we love them, we love them, and we're always gonna talk. We're always gonna talk about ming during the show, but we are also going to talk. I got a new Joe came up with kind of a new segment idea and more. I think we're gonna call this inside the Brain of Blandino, and I'll set it up. So what I do is I used to do stand up comedy in New York for a long time, and I still right and I like to you know, I like that

whole creative side. And what I'll do in my phone is if something funny happens, or I get a thought or something creative, I'll put it in my phone in my notes. And they're random thoughts, Okay, it's not like all. It's just like placeholders that will trigger my memory and then I can write it out sentence fragments exactly. And so I did this, and I had a notepad for ideas for the podcast and some of my random thoughts, and I sent it to Joe and it has become

like one of his favorite pastimes. Now. I just love reading these things, all right. So Joe is just going to scroll through the notepad real quick, and we're just gonna land on one and he's gonna read out loud and we're just gonna elaborate. So there's no setup. It's off the cuff, all right, We're said the brain and Blandino. I'm scrolling, scrolling, and I'm gonna stop right here. What Koalas have chlamydia? And you said, how do you know

how to spell it? Exactly? I'm glad I misspelled it alright, So okay, let me think about that. Oh okay, okay, So Koalas have lamidia. So I read this thing. I don't know how it came up, but I read this thing that literally like the Koala community, like the Koala population, like of Koala bears have chlamydia. Like it's insane, like is it? Like? So I had this whole bit like I was gonna write about like they're swingers and like the Koala community and it's insane, like look it up.

You can google it Travis that that legit mentally some ridiculous percentage of Kuala bears have chlamydia. And I just found that like what like the qualis of like freaks, Like like what is going on in this community that they all have they all have the clapp Like what speaking of clapping? We just put that to bed the NFL. But like it's insane, Like who would have thought if I was saying, pick pick an animal, pick one animal in the animal Kingdom, that you think it has the

highest percentage of clamydia? Oh my gosh, are you picking Koala bears? I'm gonna look at Koala is different? Now? Read books to my daughter and Cuddley and they're just get away from that, get away from night right, go to the zoo? Is not doing that? Right? That? Not you after dark? Is? Hey? I think my segment is a hit already. All right, So so we'll do that each week. That will be a lot of fun. Um. Let's uh, let's go to our rule clarification of the week.

And this comes from I was on the Rich Eyes and Show Friday. We're talking about the Thursday Night Game. We were talking about the podcast. He loves it. He wants to come on be a guest future shows. He uh, he brought up. We talked about life rules right, and we talked about how we were going to break down life rules and come up with rulings. He brought up, and we talked about it on the show. Here's the setup. You're on a plane, middle seat, three across, middle seat.

Does middle seat get DIBs on both armors? Go? I say, just because I never get the middle seat, I say yes, But I don't think people follow that because you've been on the outside, in the aisle or in the window. And to me, look, you'll take it. You you're all in coach right if you're doing three across, so you've all you're all equal, you've all paid. Nobody has paid extra, nobody. So the middle seat. Look, the aisle you have the advantage of, you can get up, you don't have to

worry about. You can get to the overhead, you can lean into the aisle, you have some room. The window you have the advantage of you can look out the window, don't see how beautiful it is. And you can lean against right, so you have full on those areas are yours. The middle seat, you've got nothing, You're you're like stuck in the middle. You to me, you should get DIBs on both arm rests. Now, what what Rich and his guys were saying is it's first come, first surf. Okay,

I think it turns into a strategy battle. My last flight, the guy in the middle thought that that was the case, and I had to strategically wait for my moment to read. Well, they said first come, first serve, and I said, well, what if you get up? And he said, no, that if they If you get up, now it's up for grabs and you can reclaim the lost armrest. I waited for this guy to kind of move forward and slid right,

and you slip right in. What if somebody is it legal to like take the armrests and like put something on it, like get down and let's say saving seats in a moving exactly like I put my cell phone on the arm rest or something. Is that legal? No? No, you're no saving it, I think, but we do have to come up with I feel like, okay, I feel like the right of first refusal should go to the middle seat, and then if the middle seat relinquishes, then

it should be first come, first serve. If I don't sit down and immediately take and and maintain continuous control just like a catch. If I don't maintain continuous control during the flight and I get up or I give up that arm rest, then it becomes first come, first served, then you can move in. But I think initially, right a first refusal is the middle seat right there? We

agree on that. Can we agree on that? We only need to agree on it, all right, So that's the rule everyone, For all of you guys who like that middle seat, guys and girls who like that middle seat, just get those goods podcasts and let them know these are the rules. Do you think there are people out there? Thank you? Do you think there are people out there who choose the middle seat? No? No, no, that's the worst, you know, especially wends now and when we'll talk about it.

You know, that's the whole trading thing and seed equity. But we'll get into that. You don't trade a middle You don't sit in the middle seat and go, oh, can I sit next to you? But well, that's that's another that's another show. So we've got our rules. Change our first rule its ratified. We're gonna take a break

when we come back. College football NFL analysts, man of the people, Serious radio host Mr Brady all Right, I'm excited about our guests today because usually usually he's the one asking me questions on his serious radio show about NFL, but today I get to ask him questions. This guy, he he was college football star, played in the NFL. Current analysts for Fox Sports, Serious Radio, he's a man

of the people, Mr Brady Quinn, what's up, Brady? Mucho Blandino, which I guess is that the nickname that old Jimmy Brando gave you. I mean, I guess, but that's an old nickname. I mean that goes back I had. You know how my my football coaches, baseball coaches, everybody used to call me Dino Blandino. My my second grade teacher, I think she started it. She she loved how my name flowed, and she used to actually sing my name in class and so no, no, no, Dean, it's just Dean. Yeah,

but obviously everybody kind of went Dino. And then my middle name. My middle name is actually if you want to get any more Italian than this, so it's actually the name of an Italian sparkling water. I'll let you guess that it's usually on restaurant tables. Well, Trisca, not Tuscanna. It's Pellegrino, that's it. So it's actually Dino Pellegrino Blendino. Yep, that's my grandfather's first name. Yep. That's amazing. Unfortunately you

don't have the water right. I know, if I wish, I wish I was the heir to the Pellegrino water throne, but I'm not, you know, so exactly exactly, So what I want to talk to you a little bit about. Um. So, obviously you played in Notre Dame. You had a lot of success there, you know, just just looking at your background, tied for the most wins as a quarterback in Notre Dame history. Maxwell Award Best College Player two thousand and six, go to the NFL, had a good career, didn't enjoy

the same success as you had it Notre Dame. But you know, looking back, I think there were some some injuries two thousand, two thousand eight, you named the starter, broke your anger out for the rest of the year two thousand nine through four touchdowns against the Lions, won a couple of games in in a row. Foot injury out for the year, and then kind of bounced around as a backup and uh and retired in two thousand fifteen. What was for you the biggest difference in going from

the college game to the pro game? What was the biggest and the hardest transition for you? I think from for me personally, it was the injuries that you, like you discussed, because I form my true freshman year to my senior year had a relatively clean bill hel um. I had suffered a concussion, but it happened. I guess we think in my sophomore we think it happ in the first half, and so I played the second half and then literally to this day don't remember anything that's

half of that game. UM, But played the following week. You know, I've passed concussion protocol and all that, UM, and then played the following week. And then really outside of my seen you hear our Bowl game in the LSU, I tore my PCL in the first quarter, but put a brace on kind of thought through that to get through the game. That was it. And so once I got into the NFL, when I when I I broke,

I broke my right index finger my falling hand. And it doesn't sound like it's anything significant, but it greatly impacts you know, you your ability to throw the football if it's you're you're right in next finger or thumb. And then you mentioned the foot injury, which really plagued me the rest of my career. I stually got in surgery.

Then with Cleveland, I didn't they traded me. And then at that point once I got traded, it's you know, it was tough because I really didn't get like an opportunity, at least not like a legitimate one. You know. In two thousand twelve with Kansas City, Uh, they kind of threw me the keys after mat Castle. It got hurt. I want to say, versus Baltimore week five or six, and uh I finished the game, you know, drove us down. We actually ended up. It's funnily because you are talking

before we came on about pick plays. We got called for one, and the irony to it is it wasn't even a pick play, um, but the and and Dextermer Cluster got blown up by the cornerback on the outside. It was covering Dwayne Bow and so we ended up. I threw a pass a little under round Dwayne Bow.

He takes into the house. They called by proference the p I woul kick a field goal, end up losing the game, but but it was enough to kind of, I guess sparked him to give me an opportunity for a couple of games, had another concussion like the following week. So injuries are are one of the things that stood out because it just I couldn't really get into a rhythm or flow, you know, every time things started to look like I was gonna get an opportunity, injuries played

a factor. Um, you know, lack of continuity. There's just there's no there's no really time for development any more. Its quarterbacks, um. And so for me, what was difficult was so many different offensive systems that I went through and so you know, I probably felt most comfortable my second year in the league because I had two full years to really learn that system for Radinsky, and that

was it. Every you know, every point moving on after that, there's always changes to what I was doing the rest of my career until year eight. So um, that was part of I mean, look, I didn't play as well as I obviously needed to. But I think some of that too is you know, I'm the type that needed a little bit more time, there needed more reps and I really never got that many reps as compared to being able to start and play the true freshman. Yeah.

And and talking about that, talking about guys going from college the NFL. You had you had the game on Sunday, the Panthers and the Cardinals, And so we're watching a guy first overall pick Kyler Murray new system, a college style system. And then obviously Kyle Allen has an unbelievable game, throws four touchdowns. What what do you think? What do you think Kylie chances of being successful in the NFL.

And then talk a little bit about you know, do you think a college style system like the air raid can have sustained success in the pro game? Um, I think elements of it can. I think we've we've seen with the women in roster size how that up tempo can impact the defense over time. And candidly speaking with UM, you know a couple of people within the organization, I think that's a concern for later on this year. You know,

it's not right now. UM. And actually the weird thing was, UM, in that game, they had more plays, they'd run more offensive plays, and they had more time of possession versus the Troy Lions, and they still are excusing the versus the Carolina Panthers, and they still end up losing um.

But but I gave you a little lotside it. I think it's difficulty with answering the question about Kyler Murray is Arizona is his best shot because he was drafted specifically by an organization that has the head coach that like that loves all of his skill sets and it's going to run a system that is conducive to that. So it doesn't work out with Cliff Kingsbury in Arizona.

For Cali Murray, there's there's two issues I think for him moving forward, whoever either becomes the next head coach there if it doesn't work out, or if he was to move on somewhere else, they have to buy all in, Like you've got to have him in shotgun a bunch. You've gotta, you know, allow him to be in a system that is tailored to his skill set, strength, and one that he's you know as as running college. That's why you know it's different for him because it's kind

of like Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannell got drafted the Dolphins and Mike Sherman was offensive coordinator. That was who his offense supporter was in Texas a s for a couple of years, so he knew that system from day one. And I think the difficulty was we saw some of his best football in Miami early on, thinking like, oh, this is just the beginning, and really it kind of ended up being a little bit of his feeling um

for Kyler. I think that's some of the difficulty is if he has to change systems and go to a different team, you know, four or five years down the road, he could be or in six years down the road he could be like you know, having having to deal with a learning curve, a significant learning curve, but there's gonna be more on his play in a different system and learning different burbage. And then there's also you know, baseball, like if this doesn't work out, what part of him

would do it? I'm just gonna get a baseball. That's a good point because obviously he you know, drafted in the first round Oakland and and so he has that in his background, and he can certainly if it doesn't

work out. But it's an interesting point about having that having that system and have everything built for him versus having to go somewhere and fit into something that's already been been established and talking with them, it was interesting because he said, like he knows that offense as well as pretty much Cliffs Kingsbury, and he kind of made a comment like Cliff needs to figure out on the play calling almost in regards like he needs to figure

me out as a quarterback. Like he's very confident ability and and and what he's being asked to do in this system so much so you can see at times in the game there's an interception through trying to hit the show over the same and he was rustrated because you wanted to sooner he must down the same thing

he wanted to turn out he turned in. Um, David Johnson, you know there's another example of that too, where kind of miscommunication with him in one of the routes and you can just see him getting frustrated, and I think that's not going to bode well for a busy board his teammates, Um, you know, kind of showing them up, showing that frustration, I'm sure, and that body language, I mean, that's kind of I used to hear that about some other quarterbacks in the body language and how they how

they reacted with teammates, and and that never goes over well the uh so let's talk. Let's talk a little bit about past interference and obviously you know you and I've talked about it. What are your what are your first impressions of the rule? What do you think going forward in terms of past inference being being reviewable and uh and where the NFL is right now? With that, everybody has the same reaction when I asked that question that like, no, let me tell you, it's a microcosm

of society. Okay, Like this is what happens getting deep now right now. So there's like five cent right, like if you know the build bell curve, remember math class, right, Belker, And you've got like five at each end of it, right, and you've got the other of us or somewhere in the middle of this spell curve. And the play that really forced this rule this you know, offensive and defensive

past interference ability of challenge and review. It was so egregious and so bad that we now implemented a rule that's being applied to a bunch of other plays where it's not really necessary in my opinion, And I think that's kind of the case in society, like we create laws or have these like reactions to things the five You're like, Okay, that happens like one or two percent of the time, Like you can't stop crazy, you can't stop like these, you know, ridiculous things that happen, and

and but you try to create the walls about them, and then everyone else out there is just like, Okay, now we've got to deal with this. And it's really not something that um, you know, had affected my lifestyle before or was something that uh, you know I did anyway, But what we implement a wall or do something for, like it's just a microcosmics decide it's an overreaction to it egregious probably once in a decade type miscall. Maybe not.

I mean that maybe you disagree with that. I don't know that I've seen anything that bad that was myth and uh and I just I think it's you know, to me, that's that's where this kind of makes sense, Like like this is just where we are in our society. We're very reactive instead of proactive, and sometimes that could be a bad thing, and I I think in this case that it kind of is. And I'll just halted

by saying this. I feel like if the NFL it wasn't so egotistical at the time about some of the rules, and they looked at how the college has implemented the review process for player safety, and it would have cleared up that call, and it would clear up probably some other calls to UM that would fall into that category. And unfortunately they don't want to go that route. So UM it's or or at this point you said, I don't want to go that route. So it's a little

bit disheartening, but it's just something you have to deal with. Now. I think that's a player coach, and then obviously it is as an analyst of people in our our field. Yeah, and I couldn't I couldn't agree with you more. I think when you talk about I mean one case you pass a law for for one case, and that you end up with bad laws. And if you if you pass a rule for one play, I think I think

you end up with bad rules. And I think that's what we're seeing because obviously you're trying to fix the Saints Rams play from last year and now look at the look at the place. How how many Saints Rams plays have we fixed? With this rule, and there hasn't been any and and now we're into this minutia of what is past deference. And I know you were, you know,

you were in Arizona on Sunday. But there was a play in the Eagles Lions game on Sunday where you know, the kick returner Sanders, I mean, he gets his helmet ripped off, face mask, big time, no call, and you can't do anything about that in replay. But then Patricia challenges, you know, a fifty fifty ball into double coverage, hoping for a p I and and and then we sit there for two minutes and we end up with calling the field stands. And I don't think that was the

intent of of the rule. And so you know, and I agree with you about society too. I think that's where you know, we go, we kind of go sideways with that stuff. So so case in point that, I'm glad you brought that up, because that was the first player that I saw. And watching some of the highlighting things and you see it on social media, um as much as about the sus point and keep you still to see things that stand out, uh, And that in that particular clip stood out as far as a bad

miss call. But you know, again, unless we just want to open everything up to be reviewable, right and we want to make specific demands or have specific demands when the head coaches, which you know, may slow down the game. Maybe not more so than all these holding penalties called,

even though this past week and they weren't any calls. Um. But again, players safety, Like that's an instance where obviously if you're you know, there's a face masks a personal file, you're ripping it off the guy's head, you know, that's an element where it would be reviewable. And and and again it falls under that maybe it's a catch all in a way. But at the same time, like we're trying to make the game safer, we typically see rules

change for player's safety. It just makes more sense to me to be able to have the replay officials review things for players safety when there's been a foul committed. Um, maybe even more so than giving the coaches the opportunity to challenge it. Or maybe that's your that that that's kind of your fall back because you have the coaches the ability to challenge it if it need the replay

officials don't see it. Yeah, similar to college and I think the colleges and I think it works with targeting and and and I like your comment just about the NFL. And I hope that there's more collaboration between the NFL and college as it pertains to rules, because I think

there will be. Can I ask you this? So, so I'm coming down the elephators with these replay officials and you know, NFL again this past week, and I kind of looked at and said, man, you guys are really asked the hook now, huh honestly, you know, I know there's things that are still looking at the replay process, but it's my understanding that everything gets routed back to New York and so ultimately they've got help there too. And I was just kind of thinking to myself, what

are these guys here for? Then, yeah, getting routed back down rip off? What are they there for? They're definitely not Yeah, they're They've definitely been marginalized in terms of the decision making. You know, I think the biggest thing that they still have to do is in that two minute window, especially in a hurry up where you know, the offenses is trying to conserve time. They've got to be the ones to stop the game to at least initiate a review. So I still think they have an

important role. Um but again, once the game has stopped, they can they can pretty much They're out of it in terms of decision making. New York gets involved exactly, and then they do they do. I was telling somebody the story we've had. You know, I was with the NFL for a long time and the stories I can tell you about replay officials, but one, you know, we've had replay officials go down in the second half because of a bad hot dog at halftime. You know, they

just they just couldn't continue. You know, we had to like next man up and and you you've been in those press boxes, you know what some of that food he is like the past week we had this guy a tremendous mustash. I mean, I'm talking like Tom Sella, that oh nice, which is kind of what drew me to.

I think even looked at like what is because said like NFL something sad like sitting in the elevator waiting for people to get on, and I say replay official and that's I just slug up the conversation like man, you guys kind of got it easy. Yeah, if he kind of starts talking to me, he had food that perfect? Perfect? How easy is this guy's job? Like, I don't know what they're getting paid or how that works, but sign

me up once I hit sixties. Just chilling the hot dog, you know, and there's a popcorn from time to time, just different colored stains on the shirt each week. It's great. I love it. All. Right, let's go, let's talk a little college football. Obviously, I know you know Notre Dame. You're a Notre Dame guy. Tough loss against Georgia, I want to ask you just about Look, Brian Kelly, there

are three and seven against top ten teams. You know, they haven't beaten the top five teams since two thousand five, not and that's look their top five teams or top ten teams for a reason. They're the best teams. Who was that two thousand It was Michigan? So it was where was that it was that that game in Michigan? I think they were number three. I think it was in Michigan, And I think that was that that was their last was there? Reason was? Who is that coach?

Then you're are you? You tell me you you were probably there? Yeah? Man, we went on the road to beat Michigan. That Charlie, you were right, yeah, yeah. The last the last time we beat an SEC team on the road, we beat I believe tennesse SE's two four, they were number nine. We went other Knoxville beat him.

But the common dominator between those two games is it wasn't a ton of offensive production because, to be quite honest, and much like we saw in this game, you know, secs got great defense, have tremendous athletes at a ton of team speed, and so how do you win? And well, the first thing is you've got to value every possession, and you've got to play the field position battle, and

you can't turn the football over. And you know that the two interceptions from me in book, and I'm not like putting this on him by any means, but you know those are like the no nos that you just you can't expect to go into their house on the road versus one of the best teams in college football and turning to football over and win, oh, no question. And then like I said, these these are tough teams, are tough games. But there there does seem to be this perception. I don't if it goes back to the

Clemson game last year. Whatever it is that where Notre Dame gets on the big stage, they kind of fall short. Do you right or wrong? Do you think that that's fair? And and do you think Brian Kelly can get this team, you know back to where you know, competing for the national title? You know in those games? What do you think? No? I I do, I really do. I think he's he's put them in a good position, right And I know, like you know, and and horseshoes when you're close accounts

and get points. But and then that's not really the case here, like there's no moral victories. But you know, you put that that game on a neutral site, you know, maybe it's a different outcome when you've got Georgia. It's a tough environment. You know, maybe it ends up a little different. I don't know, but um, he's got them to you know, the US Football Playoffs last year, a national championship just twelve And as far as you know, why things didn't work out, you know, the way I

think a lot of Irish Frans has hoped. It's difficult. I mean, look, we went to back to back BCS games, and I think in both of those BCS games. What was very apparent in watching film preparing for it is, you know, we didn't have as much team speed, We didn't have as much of that elite talent. And look at that two thousand and five Ohio State team that beat us in the cestival. I mean, look at my draft pick a team, um compared to how many we

had for example. And you know, if you're gonna use that as like an indication, right, this is why I think nerd name is closer than people realize. Okay, let's play a little trivia. How many players since two thousand sixteen have been drafted from Georgia? I would think the number is probably, I don't know, fifteen, Okay, And how many of them do you think? We're first round picks? Half? Uh five? Not quite half? About one and four? So

now same thing for Notre Dame. How many draft picks in the two thousand and sixteen Probably pretty close on my first round picks five five. So now great, you're talking different position groups, right, Like Notre Dame had a year where Quinn Nelson and Mike McGlynn both the top ten on the offensive line. Um, And that's where you know, you look at some of the you know tight ends and guys we've got draft in the first round, like a little different position um positions that are getting drafted.

And so there's a couple of things. I should think Charlie Weise's system would be perfect for Notre Dame right now, and in particular because I booked a smart kid. He's a good decision maker. And your advantage when when you're a Notre Dame is you're not going to have as much speed, probably at least not collectively. Maybe the players here and there, um, but you've got to be able to outs game and and if talent isn't equated, you've got to be able to have scheme to make it close.

And I just I look at what they do sometimes offensively in some of these more spread sets, and I don't think it plays at their advantage. I think you can't control the game as well like that versus teams that are more talented or faster than you. And it only takes a few things here they break open a

big play or create negative plays on offense. So you know, having the you know, four tight end sets in they're being able to control their game by running the football and then having more plash and pass off of that. You know, it keeps Ian Brook from being in positions where you know, at the end of the game, you know, and then again he brought some of this on himself

when he dropped back. Sometimes he's running out of the pocket, out of the back of the pocket, to the right or left, and that's what the defense wants you to do. You know, they don't want you to step up in the pocket where he's the most space in room, because once you run to the right or left, you cut the field in half, and so it's less for them

to defend. And that's where that you know, for example, the flue flicker pick came in and then the final player they had on offense, you know, he just he ran so far back at that point, it's at the desperation to heaven. It's not even like you're playing. Um you know, he's gonna to run a player you had had called initially it's just backyard football. Hell no, hope,

someone a p I call so um. I just I think with the group that they've gotten on everything else, like that sort of system would be perfect for where they're at right now. And I know that's not you know, that's not what Chip Long wants to do. But and then, don't get me wrong, he I thought he called a great game, especially some of those players down around the goal line. Uh they balanced at Georgia called a time out wisely because they were they were they were, they

were ready for the touchdown. I believe that that to our coal combat the original design was there. Do you know he didn't throw it. He ended up you know, finding them when he created afterwards. But I mean, there's a good football team. I think they could be eleven one and then go to a New Years six game. Um, but unfortunately, I mean I think with that loss, they just even as close as it was, I don't think they're gonna be with you in a collegetball playoffs. I

would agree with you. I think they have to go. They'd have to go undefeated to get you know, with just you know, can anybody is is after Alabama and Clemson, who is it? Honestly, I think it's all you in Georgia. I mean just from watching them. And and that's not to disrespect Ohio State or Oklahoma, but Ohio State really

hasn't played anyone. Oklahoma. You can make the same case and I'm still even though Ali Spinch is there and he's done a good a good job so far with their defense, I'm still hesitant to sit there and say like they could actually, you know, compete outside of just

putting up a bunch of points in bowl games. And I know there's a stat out there about when the Big twelve plays the SEC, and you know, you look at how many points SEC the events are given up, and how many points is Big twelve teams are scoring and all that, but that factor is in a lot of those middle of the road Big twelve and SEC teams, not like the top end talent teams like if Oklahoma and Texas are gonna play l s U in Alabama and Georgia, um, you know ten times each out of masking,

the SEC wins the bulk of those and you're probably winning by a decent margin, kind of like we already saw her the show tell us, Yeah, absolutely, it's not. That's not Arkansas and and you know some of the other mid to lower exactly exactly. All right, man, Hey, he's Brady Quinn. You can you can follow him on Twitter at Brady Underscore Quinn. Brady Quinn on Instagram, you can watch him NFL College football on Fox, listen to

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