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relax with the lights on. If you just like Wyoming, like you and your boys and Wyoming listening to coyotes and stuff like that. Yeah, we'll get some curs light or how we say in Wyoming curs light and uh, and we'll try to start some things on fire. I like it and I like how it goes. And Joe Madrid, Joe was always keeping it, holding it down. From a technical standpoint. We couldn't do the show without him. Joe, what's up? Wow? Thank you? That's validation. I really could

use that today. That's a that's a compliment. So make a note, jot jot it down that you've got to compliment. On April fourteen, at whatever time, it is right now. So alright, Travis, update US day whatever it is of quarantine. Obviously we were still in the middle of this thing. What you know, what's the latest this past week in

terms of cancelations, updates, suspensions, whatever it is. What's happening. Yeah, some of the things that cut my I was the XFL file for bankruptcy, which is is sad to see and they pulled the plug on that altogether. It's disappointed. I really liked what what they were doing this year, and I know, I know you were heavily involved with that, so you can you can chime in if you want, or we can wait until I go through a few if you get to the Yeah, well, Vegas they're still hopeful.

I got bugs flying around on mean, Vegas is still hopeful. They'll get the stadium UM built for the Raiders this season, and if they don't, they've they've started making some calls about possible places they can play. Um A story that that kind of made me sad. And seeing the the Coyotes they furloughed half of their employees, so um, you know, seeing that the team starting to shut down makes you makes you really sad that you know, maybe this is

something that's gonna keep going. And they know that that's there's not gonna be any season, or their gut feeling is there's not gonna be a season. So and if if they do come back, they think that possibly there's you know, there's no chance they're gonna make any kind of playoff push or or if they pick up, they pick up. If the seedings are what they are now, they're not gonna make the playoffs. So they're just they're

shutting it down. So it's sad. And yet you probably see UH more teams do that here soon and UM

the NHL they're self quarantining. They've extended that and you know, talking more NHL another another two weeks essentially from the fifteenth of this month to the thirtie UM MLB man for his uh A Fox Business interview, UM talking about baseball won't return and tell the public health improves UM and then they are also uh Manford and senior staff they're taking resoot reduced pay for and uh and half of their now continue to pay their employees through May

thirty one. So that's kind of that's kind of some

of the stuff that I've seen. Obviously a lot going on, and you hate to hear about like furloughs and people taking pay cuts and things like that, but obviously people have to make business decisions and there's so much uncertainty and speaking you know, with with knowledge of what happened with the XFL, and this was something you know, I think as us few is like, you know, a week a weekend and a half ago, the XFL, you know, everything that was happening communicated was that they were gonna

play one, and obviously they suspended for for good reason like everybody else. But the plans were let's start preparing for one. And that was like a week and a half two weeks ago, and then obviously the news that

that they shut down. There was um o'liver lock the commissioner, you know, he was he was relieved of his duties first, and Oliver was the guy that you know, we all signed up you know for you know, I worked with Oliver for a long time and he was one of the reasons um that I signed on and uh and so with Oliver out of the mix, and then they

made the decision. They had a conference call with with all of their staff and said they were shutting down and they were letting everybody go, and it didn't sound like I wasn't on the call, but I talked to enough people who worked it didn't sound like, um, they were going to be plans to play in one or even beyond that, which which you know, I get it.

I get it from a business perspective. You know, Vince McMahon has has really put a lot of resources into this, and I know he was dedicated to this, But but who could who could prepare for something like this? Who could sit there when you're when you're creating a startup and thinking about a spring football league and say, well, we have to we have to make sure that we have a contingency in case there's a pandemic in the world shuts down. And so I don't think anybody could

have prepared for this. And when you think about how the w w E has been impacted, and think about the w w E, think about all the sports, whether you want to call it sports or sports entertainment, whatever it is, think about all the things we watch in that realm. It's it's really only one that doesn't have an off season. The ww is putting on events on a weekly basis, twelve months out of the year, you know,

and multiple events. You know, they do Raw and SmackDown every week they do they do you know, SummerSlam and WrestleMania and all these other events. There's no offseason, and they obviously, you know, I think they made a business decision at look, what what's more important at this point in the future of the w w E or keeping the xfl afloat. And again, I don't know if that ultimately was why they made the decision, but I can just speculate that that had something to do with it,

because right now, yeah, they're still putting on events. They still had WrestleMania, but it's not the same when you don't have those full arenas and you can't do it to the extent that they're used to doing it. So, you know, to me, it's like he had to make a decision, you know, the future of w w E or keeping the xfl afloat, And to me, I would

make the same decision. It sucks because you had, you know, from players who who this was there, you know, probably their last opportunity to get back to the NFL, or to ever make it to the NFL full time employees. That that left other jobs to go work for the XFL because they believed in it. Uh And and you know, official is that that were there, all of these people, and what the biggest shames that it was working. You know, people liked it and it had a bright future. I

really believe that. And it just takes something so extraordinary to to end it like this, and to end it abruptly, and and it's just you know, everyone I talked to, I talked to Oliver Luck and Sam Schwartztein, who was was a big part on the football operation side, and the big the one biggest emotion is just sadness. You know, they're just sad that it couldn't continue. And uh and again, and I know, you know, it's not just the XFL.

So many people are being impacted that by this right now outside of the sports world, and uh and again, it's just so extraordinary and it's so um something that we just got to continue to work through and hope that you know, this ends sooner rather than later and we can get to you know, everybody back to work and back to what they're used to doing and and

see what the new normal looks like. So, you know, again from an XFL standpoint, it sucks, but um, it is what it is, and you know, who knows what will happen down the line at that point. Um, you mentioned Vegas. You know I read that that there's if the Vegas stadium, if the NFL season starts on time in the Vegas stadium, isn't isn't ready that they're they're looking at other They're looking at potentially San Diego, Phoenix.

I think there was one other city. I don't know if you remember, but there there was definitely talk of three potential neutral sites that Vegas could play home games at UM in lieu of having the new stadium in Vegas. So, uh, it's again so much uncertainty and uh and we're gonna have to, you know, kind of work through it. And uh and I see Joe, Is that Steve? Is that Steve waving at us D? Thank you? I didn't realice so he was, Joe, be careful. He was less than

six feet from you. Come on, he's across the man, He's across the street. But somehow he's in here right now. Rating my first, let's stick with sports. Travis talk to me talking of the w w E. Interesting developments in Florida. What what is that about. Yeah, so they deemed they in Florida, they deemed the w w E as an essential service. So they're gonna return to live programming. Um, they had been doing tapes programmings. So yeah, I guess

that's because of the the economic factor involved. That's that's deemed necessary and essential essential business. So they're coming coming back with live programming. You know, it's an interesting as we think about state governments and how the federal government is is you know, involved in all this because the states obviously have you know, different different restrictions in places.

Having more states are gonna you know, are gonna take that lead and make other things because you think about the economy and getting everything working again. Obviously, Look, the w w w E is not an essential business. Okay, it's just not. No, you know, like I can we it all live and breathe and and and spend the rest of our lives without the w w E unlike

you know, hospitals and healthcare and all of that. But that's an economic decision, and it'll be interesting to see how many more states take that lead, because again, you know, every state has been impacted differently, and um, it's it's it's so like nothing in our lifetime has been like this, and so it's just, for lack of a better term,

it's fascinating to see how this all plays out. But hopefully again, you know, back to Rob Manfred from the MLB, I think most people are taking the stance, whether it's college football, the NFL, you know, the other professional sports leagues that when it's safe in terms of the public, you know, being able to get out and and interact with each other, that's when I think we'll start to see um sports come back and and these professional leagues

start going again. And I think that's obviously the right approach. And uh and so it's really you know, it's interesting. The other thing that that just it's fascinating. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago, this eye racing, and I know Foxes is big into this, and they're showing these virtual races with drivers um you know, in their homes with you know, they're they're driving their their

steering wheel connected to their computer. But this is this is it's virtual racing, but this is having some real life implications because we've had two drivers Bubba people, Bubble Wallace, a couple of weeks ago, rage course the race because he gets into a virtual crash and he's piste and he quits. He loses a couple of sponsors. And then just over the weekend, Kyle Lawson drops the N word in the middle of a race and he suspended indefinitely.

This is if I'm a NASCAR driver right now, I'm like, I'm not doing these rtual racist because I'm gonna lose my virtual job if something goes wrong. It's crazy to think in the middle of a pandemic, somebody and I don't know if you watched it or you saw what happened, it's didn't see it, but I gotta check it out. I don't think he realized. But the reaction of the other drivers was like, dude, you just we heard that. They were like yeah, They're like you know that everybody

could hear this right right. It's like that feeling like hey, what are you doing? Why are you even saying that? But be like that's like you know you have you ever like in accord setting, have you ever meant to to it's a it's a mass male And have you ever like just wanted to reply to one person? You replied, all is that you know that because that's the type of thing and you say something completely idiotic and then and that's what the reaction was, like, dude, we can

hear that, Like, what the f is going on? So it is I'm telling you man to get to get in trouble during a pandemic and do something stupid. It's just it's gotta be I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what he's feeling like right now, but it can't be very good. Um. And then, Travis, you mentioned talk to me about Taiwanese baseball. What's happening

there that sounds so interesting? But I saw a story that they they're gonna start up their games again and in the stands there they have mannequins and cardboard cutouts, and I saw some of the pictures from this. They have uh yeah, the the fans, the fans I use hand quotes here, have masks on and they're sitting in the stands and they're all kind of in different sections. And then you have so there's cheerleaders in Taiwanese baseball, So then you have the cheerleaders posing with the standout

or with the mannequins. No I swear it's it's great. You gotta gotta look like building those mannequins like it would be like I want to. I guarantee you if I was building those mannequins, you know, you know who would be one of the mannequins, right, and he'd be in every set. Who Who's been Who's been invading our world? And our guy Wood would would be in every section.

He'd be eating a hot dog. He'd be waving you know, the big the big finger, you know, all the foam finger would would be everywhere if I were doing this, if I were doing the cardboard cutouts. So but it's good to see in other parts of the world. You know, I read that there's places, you know, the Czech Republic, there's other places that are starting to loosen some of these restrictions. So social distancing is working. We just gotta stay the course, stay home unless you absolutely have to

get out there. And uh and again thank you to all of the first responders, the health workers, the doctors, the nurses, everybody, the people that are working in grocery stores. That I talked to a high school official who you know, I started mentoring and uh, you know he's working obviously high school. He can't work. You know, he does baseball, he does football, and he works in the grocery store.

And he just tells me that, you know, it's stressful, and to everyone out there that's doing that so that we can sit at home and uh and the worst thing that we got to deal with is boredom. That we can get the necessities that we need. Thank you, thank you, thank you, and UH and again I hope we get you know, get through this sooner rather than later. Um.

And then Cleveland Brown's uniforms, Travis, what's that all about? Yeah, they announced that they're gonna unveil their new uniforms on Wednesday, and the first wave of sales they're gonna donate all that to UH COVID nineteen and and it is the Browns. So you know, I wish you wish it would be you know, if it was like the Patriots or the Packers, we might get a little more for COVID research. The Browns, I don't know, like where are the Browns in terms

of the thirty two? Like if you have to pick one team to say, the sales of this jersey, would you know is going to help? You know? Solve this issue. What team would it pay? Jop It would be the Cowboys with that, sorry he said, Joe. Yeah, okay, so forget about Cowboys. Let's say who's number two. I'd say um Raiders. Their fans are pretty hardcore. Or no, actually, now I'd go Steelers, Steelers, Steelers right there, I think

the Bucks. I think the Bucks should jump on board with this and just all the all the Tom Brady sales should go to COVID Research. I agree. Although Tom is like Tom stot stupid, He's a pretty savvy businessman. He I know he's trying to let copyright a couple of things like Tampa Bay Brady or whatever it is, Tompa Tampa Bay and Tampa Brady like like Tompa Bay sounds like something I don't know, like in in Southeast Asia, something I don't know. That's weird. I think the question

is all right, so this is the other city? Is Salt Lake in Utah? That would be cool to the Raiders. That was the other one. Who's gonna raise more money for COVID is It's gonna be uh deansos or the Brown Jersey sales. I have every one of my cameos everyone,

public service announcement. Every one of my cameos right now, I charge twenty five dollars of cameo, which if you go on cameo and you look at bargain people Joe Travis, who are some of these people that are charging like to pop are not worth two in the work you are getting. Look at my ratings. I am on a five star streak for it. Maybe the best value on the internet right now. I'm just saying I put a lot of time and effort into it. There's props, there's soundtracks,

there's a lot of things that go into this. For bucks, it's worth trust me, And it's gonna go to COVID Research. Um. I usually give it to uh, you know, some other charities, but right now, obviously that's gonna be first and foremost. Um, So hit me up cameo and and I'm also available. You know. I just had a I had a zoom call with a couple of guys that I met, you know, through cameo. I did their draft order for their fantasy football draft. Had a had a call with them last week,

a zoom call. Um, I've got to come up with one of the guy's names in the league. His name was more than a feeling, okay, and I completely nixed that name because it's so like, that's like you look up on Google, you know, funny fantasy football names. So he he can no longer be more than a feeling feeling. And I told him I was going to rename his team. So we got to think about a good name for this guy's team. And I'm trying to get just some information.

His name is John. He's a Vikings fan. So I'm gonna try to come up with and I need someone put from you guys on on renaming his fantasy football team because he I will not let him go into the season with more than a feeling. Great player I like, I like, but I don't want to name I don't want to name my team after him. Um, all right, you know what, let's take a break and uh and when we come back, we're gonna talk a little NFL competition, commit the update, college football rules update and uh and

we'll get into that next on good calls. All right, we're back on big calls obviously. You know the next when you think about big events sports wise, during this time, what we be in you know, the NHL season would be coming to a close, NBA not soon after that, Um, not too far after that, we'd have baseball, you know, middle of you know, starting to get into you know, first couple of weeks of the season. But the NFL Draft right April has been the NFL has really done

a great job of the offseason. Marquee event has been the NFL Draft. And obviously this has been impacted, like everything else by quarantine and what's happening around the country and around the world. So, Travis, what's the latest on the draft? What is the draft gonna look like? Sound like, where is it taking place? Walk us through what's gonna happen. So it's obviously not gonna be in Vegas like everyone had hope. Uh, you know, that's that's been news for

a while. Um, it's you're gonna see the commissioner from his basement announcing the first round picks, which will be really cool. Um, you've got fifty eight different prospects. With what's called like a draft kit, which is essentially a camera. They're probably gonna be skyping with the productions that are gonna be out of Bristol, Um where NFL Network and ESPN are gonna be UM taking part in a joint

broadcast of of the the event. You're gonna see it on ESPN and NFL network, Like I said, also another version on ABC where they've where they've done things a little more interactive with fans on UH on the network level for them UM and it's Uh. I think it's gonna be pretty cool though. I think you're gonna you're gonna see a lot of stuff. Um. You have you have mel kiper Still, you have Daniel Jeremiah who does

a great job for anfil network. You're gonna see a lot of a lot of great people talk about talk about these athletes, and it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a great show. I think they'll they'll they'll combine their their thoughts and put it all in as a night as a nice show. I'm excited for it. Yeah, I don't. You know, you think about the draft and think about a normal draft, it's a lot of just you know, popp and circumstance with the players. What do

you end up seeing. Yeah, you get to see the players that are there with their families, they're sitting in a green room. There's always some drama, somebody drops like an Aaron Rodgers and now we're showing him. But really the meat and potatoes of the draft is the analysis, right and we can still do that. We can steal here from you know, mel kiper and and and all of these, all of these you know, college football and draft experts, and it's the game film and showing highlights.

And I don't think we're gonna miss a lot of that. I think we're gonna see more of it, obviously. And then with these draft kids you mentioned, you know, and talked to a lot of my former colleagues at the NFL and the I T department. They were putting together these draft kick kits and sending them out to you know, the draft picks you know that, you know, the people that they anticipate and setting them up at home and going through this process. So I think the draft, I

think it's people are gonna really like it. I think it's gonna be you know, obviously not ideal and under not ideal circumstances, I think it's gonna be the best potential scenario. Um. One of the things I did read is is what's funny is they're saying that they don't want so the draft pick at home and obviously you know this is a big moment for them, and so you're gonna have family and friends. But the NFL is saying,

don't have more than six people in the shop. So so what is the over under on draft picks that get You know, somebody's uncle or somebody's cousin has been waiting for this and they're gonna jump in the shot. There's gonna be one guy that just has eighteen people in the shot, and people are gonna lose their minds because these guys they've been waiting and whoever it is

is wants to be in that shot. And I guarantee you somebody's gonna sneak in when they're only supposed to have six in the shot, without a doubt that's gonna happen. You think about what happened with Dak Prescott in over the weekend and him having a birthday party, and they said there was upwards of thirty people there. So you know for a fact, these guys are gonna have their said Dak met with the cowboys and he said it

was six people or something or seven people. He said it was less than so I get I'm sure that it was less than ten again, and what's there was a buffet. It looked like it was enough for thirty people. That and I'm sure Zeke is one too because he has a good track record of it was there. So and the thing is what's interesting, and this has been something and this has been a point of contention around the league. And you talk to gms and and and everything else. Um, then the NFL is strict on this.

You are not. They are saying you cannot be the head coach and the GM, even if they live next door to each other, cannot be in the same home. If you don't cohabitate, you can't be in the same home. So and this was asked. They had conference calls, they had memos, everything, and this was asked by a club, Hey, can Jerry and Stephen Jones be in the same in the same home. And the answer was no, they don't

live together. They can't be in the same home. So every coach will have a set up, the GM will have a set up, the you know, the player personnel, all of those will have their set ups, but they cannot be in what they normally have, that draft room where everybody's together, and they will have they'll have secure lines for for trades. They'll have a secure line um to get the pick in and and it's gonna be interesting to how you know, because you think about just

technology and things. You know what if somebody's internet goes out at their home, you know what if if they're sitting there, what happens then? Are they Is it like a fantasy football draft where somebody cuts out and they're like, oh, we gotta wait for draft back. You know, he's gotta he's gotta play. It's gonna restart his router. So Bradford, you're imagining, I don't want to drafty brad You're imagining, like, you know who, who would be the funniest coach? Like

if Bill Belichick? Can you imagine him in his basement on his hands and knees like I'm plugging his router and plugging in fact in the photo, the I T guy he can make his draft pick. It's so like you just think about these different things. It's just so unusual. I think, again, Yeah, so are you gonna be on the Cowboys party bus for the draft? He's not allowed. No, But I have a serious question though I did see

a story about a mock draft they're gonna have. So it's gonna be like a similar like NFC football mock draft that they're gonna Do you have any more details on that? I I don't have a lot of details on that. Um. You know, you think about a mock draft, it's again, it's just so bizarre. And the thing these teams are so secretive and they're so detective over their own stuff, and so this whole set up and it's

gonna take more, you know, just collaboration and different things. Um. Again, I don't think the draft presentation it's really gonna suffer that much, you know, I really don't. I think it's gonna be cool. Like we're gonna get to see Roger Goodell's basement, you know, like what is that? Does he have a pool table people there? Before? I've never been. I've never been to his home in Bronxville. Um, but it's just gonna be you're in his basement, Like just

that's cool on its own. Or seeing these you know, seeing Joe Burrow in his own environment and seeing you know, and if we get cameras to see some of these clubs, and and and and and you know, these these coaches, these gms, and so that's just kind of cool. And and so I think I think it's gonna be a cool experience. Uh and uh. And we'll just see how it plays out. We'll see how it how it runs, and if it runs as smoothly as when it happens with everybody. I always watched the draft for the fashion.

I hope these guys are gonna get all dressed up like they usually do. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't. I don't think they're gonna be as dressed up. I really don't they're gonna be like I don't think if I would get you know, I don't think I would break out the you know, the five thousand dollar you go boss or whatever it is to sit in my

living room with you know, with my family. But who knows, maybe somebody will do something creative and uh and we'll get like the rest of us, which sweatpant combo I wear today? You know? Oh man, I try to. I've been having these zoom calls with with Replay officials and that's the only thing that that allowed that makes me change my outfit every because I don't want them to see me in the same outfit. But other than that, what are you're rocking right now? Are you going velvet

right now? Is that? Just? Does that? Velt it? But it's nice. This is actually one of my better Um had this today on the meetings. It's um, I forget what prayer it is, but it's uh, it's like, I don't know if it's a it's not cashmir, but it's something. Another thing I'm looking enough about your sweatshirt. Another thing I'm looking forward to in the draft is these feature

departments for these networks. They'll they'll have features we didn't mention that they've been working, you know, tirelessly on getting these features cut and they did a ton of stuff that combine and they always get an opportunity to sit down with all those athletes at that at that event, and they put together amazing things so we can get to know these players. And I'm really looking forward to that as well. Yeah, I think I think it's gonna

be cool. I really do. I think we're gonna see stuff that we're not used to seeing, and uh, I think it's gonna be pretty cool. I'm glad they're doing it. Um, you know, I know some teams are you know they're not happy about necessarily how it's being done. But look again, I keep saying, it's extraordinary circumstances, so we just gotta, you know, try to try to work through it. Um. That being said, let's talk a little bit about you know, the Competition Committee update. The plan is um to uh

you know, they had another long call. Obviously they can't meet in person. The plan is to vote on these proposals at the May meeting, which is middle to the end of May. UM And really the interesting thing, look, here's the bottom line, UM replay the replay rule from last year. The Competition Committee was nine oh against reproposing it. And that is unprecedented. Never in my experience, and I've been involved with the NFL since, and I've talked to people,

my mentor Joel Busser, he is the NFL's historian. We've talked, if not every day, every other day, and never in his recollection has a one year rule change gone in one year and the next year the Competition Committee was unity unanimously against putting it back up for a vote.

That's how bad that rule failed. Okay, and I think we all saw the writing on the wall initially, how it went in, how it was applied throughout the season, and to think about thirty one to one, okay, that it passed prior to the two thousand nineteen season to nine oh nine members of the Competition Committee member nine oh unanimous, not even to put it up for another vote. Okay. That is an epic, epic failure. When you talk about that rule and where does that leave us? It leaves

us with if nothing else gets implemented. And there are two proposals from the Chargers and the Ravens involving a a booth umpire and and a senior technology advisor that can both use video to help the on field officials. Competition Committee has has come in and said they want

to table those proposals and study them more. So. That means if we if we start a season and passing affairs for review is out and there's no star sky judge, whatever you want to call it, we are back in two thousand eighteen with no recourse to fix the flagrant, egregious error that that like the one that occurred in the two eighteen NFC Championship game. I can't imagine coaches, fans, media being okay with that. I mean what do you

guys think. I don't, I don't think ahead. Well, the first thing I want to say is, who's the one coach that voted against it? You know? Um that was? It wasn't So it's not a coach necessarily the time. Coaches don't have a vote as an owner. So Mike Brown from the Bengals. And I give Mike Brown credit because Mike Brown has been philosophically opposed to replay since its inception in nineteen eighty six, and he has not backed off that stance, and he was the one owner

that voted against it. Well, you know he's doing Do you know why he does it that way? What's that? Have you ever talked to him? You don't have any idea why he does it that? Just there there's there's a general for people and this. You know, you can say old school or there's there's this thought process that replay creates more issues than it fixes, that that it's a never ending it's a never ending cycle, that it's only going to expand and expand and expand, and where

does it end? And that was the fear when we put it back in. We had a very small subset of plays. But you look at the number of reviewable plays in nineteen ninety nine compared to two thousand nineteen, and it's like tripled. And the number of stoppages has more than doubled, and the number of time taken and replay reviews has doubled. All of these things because and

obviously technology as a driver. More technology, the more the fans could see at home and can see when they watch wherever they watch, it doesn't make any sense that the officials and the officiating department can't use that same technology to get calls right. But that's always been the concern, where does it end? And I think this has been a great lesson because we were always when I was part of that competition committee, they were always hesitant to

make subjective calls like passing unferrents were reviewable. And I don't think they were all this. I don't think all of them were fully on board with the concept going into But I think what happened in the NFC Championship game, the push, the impetus, it was too much to to to not do it, and uh, but I think they're they're head seeing their fears were realized in how it was applied in two thousand, nineteen. That dude's doing the Connor McGregor walk. He's like, yeah, he's like I told

you he's doing he's doing the cans. He's walking through through the draft like this in his basement. Told you guys, I'm mean he's again, he's old school, but you know, give him credit. He's stuck to his guns. And uh, you know he's the one. And you look at thirty one clubs. It was crazy. Everybody was behind it and it just didn't work. It did not work. And I'm not saying it can't work, but the way it was applied last year, it just wasn't gonna work. And we saw it. We saw it play out week in a

week out. Um. But again, it's gonna be really interesting. I don't know many coaches that will be able to sit there and say, you're gonna go into a season with no no mechanism in place to prevent that that catastrophic in changing state. It's uh, you know again, it's gonna be interesting. Let's let's switch gears. Let's talk college football and uh and so the college football rules change proposals are in. There's one last step. It's called prop

It's the playing Rules Oversight path. This is made up of mostly commissioners from the different conferences UM, different different people from whether it's a d S and different from different institutions, and they have the they have the final

yes no vote on these rules changes. When you think about the rules changes and this will happen, UM supposed to happen April sixteenth, it got pushed back a week, and so I think it's gonna happen maybe April twenty three, not exactly sure if that's the date, but somewhere in that range. UM. A couple of things. The targeting, if you get if you get disqualified for targeting, the player no longer has to leave the field and go to

the locker room. So the player can stay on the bench be with his teammates, but he obviously can't go back in the game. So they'll they'll take his helmet. The officials will know that number thirty two, whoever it is, can't go back in the game. I expect that to pass. I think when you're talking about these are kids, right, you're talking about college kids, to go especially on the road, and go sit in a locker room and empty visiting team locker room. If you just cost your team fifteen

yards and you're out of the game. That's tough for anyone, especially in eighteen year old kids. So to be able to be on your sideline with your teammates, that's a good thing. It eliminates that that kind of walk of shame going to the locker room, and I think that's uh, you know, going to pass. The other thing is officials jurisdiction. Previously, the officials prior to kick off sixty minutes prior to kickoff,

their jurisdiction kicked in. That's when pregame warm started. So officials could technically throw a flag front sportsmanlike conduct or personal foul starting with sixty minutes prior to kickoff, and obviously you could have ejections and you could have fifteen

yard penalties on the opening kickoff. Now, after some things that happened last year where players getting into it during pregame well before the sixty minutes, the officials jurisdiction will start ninety minutes prior to kickoff, and so the officials will be not the entire crew, but there will be at least three officials out on the field ninety minutes prior to kickoff. To monitor what's happening, and they will have the ability to penalize players and eject players prior

to the in UM. The other one, this involves player numbering. I don't know if you guys are aware of. Because college rosters are so much bigger, there's no limit to the number of players that you can have on on a roster, no limit by rule. UM. There are teams that have multiple players with the same number. Okay, so you could have if you look at a flip a flip guard which has a flip chart that has all of the team, you know, the names, the numbers where

they're from. There are some teams that have four number five. There are some teams that have you know, three, number eighty, and this can get their rules in place where they can't play in the game at the same time, they can't play the same position during the same game. But this becomes really hard. It becomes hard to scout when teams are trying to scout their upcoming opponents, which number

five is that? And it becomes hard on the officials because if you have two players number five, which player committed the penalty? Are we going to potentially eject the wrong player? UM? So the rule is no more than two members may be assigned or where the same jersey numbers. Before there was no limit, you could have five number fives. Now you can have a maximum of two number five, And so that's gonna be I would imagine that would pass. Um. Other than that, you know, really not a lot in

terms of of changing. The one that I think you know is it's more of a guideline. But there's no limit in terms of replay reviews and the college. There's no time limit. In the NFL, you have sixty seconds to make a decision. In college, it's indefinite. UM. So what the college whole book will say next year is that it's not again, it's not a strict rule where you shut it off at two minutes, but the expectation and the recommended guideline is that a replay review should

take no longer than two minutes. So at two minutes, the recommendation is if you haven't made a decision, you have to make a decision. Most of the time, if you go two minutes and you haven't made the decision, your decision is made. You don't have enough to change the call in the field. Let it stand. So two minutes is going to be a guideline for replay reviews. UM. And so that's really it from in terms of college football. Not a ton of rules changes. I think that's good.

I think there won't be a ton on the NFL side, And that's good, especially with a shortened shortened off season, like we are going to have a shortened off season. Who knows when the season's gonna our and and so if you change a bunch of rules, it's everybody's playing catch up and UH, and it's gonna be interesting to uh to see how it all plays out. So the NFL is gonna do virtual off season programs. UM. But a question I had for you, what what was the penalty?

If you have I know you probably see it a lot of like special teams that guys aren't used to being on this field at the same time, UM, with the same number for the team is a fifteen yard penalty? You know it was a five yard penalty for the legal substitution, and now you know there were other rules in place. UM. But again, now there'll be something. Teams won't even be able to assign more than two numbers because if you look one team, if you it was interesting.

During the meetings, they show owed a couple of flip charts and one Michigan. It was it was insane how many duplicate numbers they have. And it's not just specific to Michigan, but they were just one of the examples that was used. And one of the things that that I don't know if many people realize, but coaches when they recruit, one of the biggest things is numbers. These players, they must the number that they want. Digits, single digit is one of the biggest things. And when college what

what I like, it's cool about colleges. You could have a two d eighty pound defensive end wearing a single digit, right. You don't see that in the NFL because they have restrictions on numbers. Defensive linemen can't wear single digits. But so they are promising as a recruit, they're promising five number fives and that's how they're getting these kids. So this will impact recruiting. UM, so it does have real, you know, significant implications. But again, and it's just it's

crazy to think about all these things. In the discussion, in the rules committee discussion, I'll throw this out to you, what do you what do you guys think because one of the solutions was what if we went over what if we went to three digits? So so think about this, think about this holding number hundred and thirty two on the offense, repeat second down? What what? What do you That was one of the things that was discussed is

that what do you think about that? It's just kind of comical to me, Like it's I don't think it's necessary to figure stuf to oulse out. How do they have to dress? Oh? Some teams have over hundred. Oh I didn't know. Okay, well then yeah, I mean you have to do that. And the other the other thing is they will they are going to add zero, so you are going to add zero as another number. And the other thing that they talked about is adding zero one,

zero two, zero three, zero four. What do you think Like if I said, hey, Joe, you're the stud tight end from Pomona High School, I want you to come to SC and you can have any number you want. We're gonna give you zero seven. Would that be Would that be interesting to you? What do you think? Whatever you're gonna give me a you're gonna get me to the NFL. That's my that's my question. You want to get to the NFL. You know you don't care about numbers,

So so that's the thing with the numbers again. Rule change process will be hopefully over for both college and NFL when we get through May and uh, and then we'll kind of see we'll have, you know, an update at that point and we'll see how will you know what? I did have one question about I had one question about the rules. So when the guys get booted and they have to take their hell and off, and do they need to put on a skirt and some pom poms as well? Boom by a road today? Wow this

guy tonight. Okay, on that note, let's go to a break, and then we're gonna talk about how Joe's hoping and social distancing because not well, basically coming up next on big Calls. Come on, that was good. All right, we're back on good Calls and uh. File segment of the show, Travis was just Joe, I don't know we're During the break, Travis was explained to me again the hardships him and he threw the he threw the you didn't experience this,

but I'm experienced in this. Currently in his eight children in that having a newborn and a toddler, and how hard it is because his toddler just wants to be with him because he's so lovable and obviously has the newborn. So again, really tough Travis, you know, with with his eight kids. I have two kids. I have two kids. But yeah, maybe maybe I'm a little dramatic about it, but I'm just in it. That's why trying to makesation. You've got a big change, big change in your life.

You know, we were doing the thing where Travis's life before COVID nineteen and during COVID nineteen and it hadn't really changed. But walk us through your day today and let's see how different it is. I'm back to work, working from home. I'm waking up instead of just doing bottles with the kid and and taking the toddler. I'm working. I'm working. I got working on a Speak for Yourself

for Fox Sports one and FS one. We uh, I'm working with the talent, working with the guests and getting things all set up for that show throughout the day, and we're making live TV again. It's it's it's and it's you know, it's it's great to be back in the mix. But I missed the days of you know, just hanging out in the driveway drawn solar systems and dinosaurs. But I am, I am, and I'm saying this in

the best way possible. I'm happy that your life has not been impacted one way whatsoever other than COVID nineteen. Like you are still like you're sitting in your beautiful backyard, the backdrop everything, loving life and just and just living it up with. Absolutely fortunate to still have a job. You know, there's so many people that don't have jobs, and we feel for those folks, and and I'm just I'm blessed to have a job, that's for sure. That's it.

So that being said, Tiger King. Okay, Fox had a special this week TMZ Fox aired at TMZ investigated Tiger King. So I I recorded it, I watched it. I took notes. Um, Joe, I don't think you said you didn't see it yet, Travis, you saw it. I was Look, it was interesting. It wasn't There was no Joe exotic because obviously he's in jail. There was no Carol Baskin. So for me, if you take out those two, it's not that great. It was more of it was Harvey Levin from TMZ narrating it,

and they talked to a lot of people. Um, but I want to take out my notes because I want to make sure I don't miss anything, because there was a couple of things that jumped out. The first thing that jumped out was James Garrettson. Okay, So remember James Garretson was the guy on the jet ski. He's got a new haircut, He's got a much slicker haircut. And they interview him on the jet ski again his phone. He's holding his phone in the middle of wherever he

is on his jet ski. So they like calling him out of the blue and there like hey, James, like, oh wait, let me just let me just stop and do this FaceTime interview on the jet ski. For thing. You know, I could have did the show on my

jet ski. I'm here. That would have been amazing. So the other thing, the other thing that jumped out next week is this the comment Joe Exotic was brought up on charges of animal cruelty and the idea was that he killed tigers and and so I don't know who said it, but they were defending him and it was one of his one of his former colleagues, and they said, look, you know he euthanized animals. And I wrote it down. I took a note. The comment was, animals get sick,

animals get bit by water moccasins. Yeah, what who? Where? Wait? Where are these animals getting bit by what? That's so specific? Another sick horse, Bessie got bit by water moccasins. He got throwed down? What actual direct quote, animals get sick? And remember by wakas So that note. Okay. So the Tampa Police, the Tampa sheriff Department has re opened the case, the Don Lewis case, the disappearance. Okay, and I feel like this is a not a great use of resources

right now. And they're interviewing the cop or whoever he is. That's the sheriff, it's the sheriff riff. That guy was amazing, he said, he the fact, And I wrote this down. He said, he said, Joe exotic, he's like twenty guilty of murder. But it's not he's not really like it's a very flimsy case guilty of murder. How do you even engage that? Like? How And they are now investigating the disappearance of donal Lewis and they're looking into Carole

basket forty years later. The craziest thing about that, that storyline, they kind of just brushed over it and that that was all is. My question about that was she doesn't seem very concerned about trying to find the guy, like she just wants to I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I don't know worries that, but I didn't do it. Like she didn't care about finding it. No O j about to find the killers. He's still still looking. So the other thing the lawyer, so his Don Lewis's

lawyer was amazing. They're interviewing him and he keep he kept referring to the street. Did you hear that word on the street? The street people are saying this, And I'm like, two, are the street people? Who are you talking to in the street. He's like, that's all I'm gonna say. But what I'm hearing from in the street is look what what? What street people are you talking about? Like you're an old lawyer. Like this old white lawyer that's talking to the street is talking like that was hilarious.

It's like he's got an online poll going or something. Right now. Then they went to my man, Doc Antele. I love Doc Andel. Doc Antel is now is still defending himself that he doesn't have a harem. He's like, listen, I don't have a harem. I was married twenty five years ago. I know, my wife died in a car crash and I've been single ever since. And I've got girlfriends. I lived by myself. All my girlfriends know about each other. They're all cool with it. So basically, Doc Andel doesn't

have a harem. But he's just a player, So don't hate the player, hate the game, like Doc Handel is the man. So that that that was the thing. Then then they started interviewing like Nancy Grace is on it, Like Nancy Grace is chiming in about Carol Baskin, about Joe Exotic. And my favorite was Jeff Corwin. You remember Jeff Corwin. Jeff Corwin is like one of those like crocodile you know, the crocodile Hunter, like feature guys. He

has a big show. So Jeff Corman's chiming in just about did you notice the amazing pewter statue behind him in his lounge of the guy on the horse, Like these are the things that I'll go back and watch Jeff corry and he's got this amazing statue of a guy on a horse right behind him, and that's all I could look at. Like I couldn't. I didn't know what Jeff Corryan was saying, but I can look at was his horse. Dr Phil waved, Wait, wait in on on Joe Exotics, you know, he's a he's an ultimate

narcissist and all of these things. But my favorite was Travis Barker from Blame On two. That's that was Travis Barker basically said, and this is a direct quote, Joe Exotic is like Scarface. He's you know, the score of the story of scar Scarface is just like Joe Exotic. It's relatable. How is the story of scar Face relatable to anybody that's not a murdering drug dealer from Cuban? Like, where is that? How do you come up with how do you connect those two? Travis away with that? Travis,

can you relate with scar Face? Joke? We relaring with scar Face. Joe Exotic is like the scar face of big cattle owners. No, the other guy, the real Cuban guy, the cocaine guy. That's the real scar face of Big Cattle, because he is scarface movie of him, right, And so the only thing that I'm thinking of is the amount of popularity. And look, this is TMZ just trying to

get in on it. Is how many network executives are meeting zoom meetings today, going, you gotta find me the next Tigers that Tiger King, like you have to find me the next openly gay mullet wearing firearm firearm like glowing up ship. You know, crazy person that runs a roadside zoo in Middle America that has an arch enemy who's a crazy woman who also has a zoo, who killed her ex husband and feder to the Tigers. Find me that go how is that even? How is that

even happening? It's Tiger King. We haven't seen the last of it. They did say. They kept saying, the Peter lawyer kept saying that they are investigating. Um, you know they're still investigating. Even Jeff Low made an appearance. Your boy, Jeff Love, He made an appearance. He had a couple of interviews, him and his wife. Not really no lot there.

Did you see their nanny? Yeah, he's been posting pictures. Goodness, you knew he was gonna you knew he was gonna be on like bumble or whatever, trying to find nanny. So we haven't seen the last a Tiger King. The Peter lawyers said that they're still investigating. Uh you know, Jeff Jeff Low said he hasn't been investigated, but who knows. Joe's Exotic still appealing. We'll see what happens, all right. Moving on, best is that a tiger best COVID nineteen

Internet content? What's the latest work? I've got one? I think I've got one. You've got one. If you don't have one, no I do. It's the Tiger King? Is is um what's his name? We just talked about him. The douchebag guy is Jeff Low? The husband? Have you

seen Jeff? Yeah. So somebody posted a picture of Carol Baskin's first husband and said the idea was floated that Carol basket hired Jeff Low to screw over Joe Exotic, and it's Jeff Low is her first husband, And now the person can't stop thinking about it, and I agree, it's very The similarity is definitely there, dude. They look the same eyes and everything that picture, that picture did look the same but watching that special last night, it

didn't look like the guy. I don't know, but many years have passed, right, there's been a couple of new of our guy would like did the Easter Bunny one? Was good? I thought that was a good one. How do when this Wood jump the shark? That's a great question. I think when when COVID ends so you can go back to work, you think, what is gonna last throughout COVID? I mean, would and COVID are. It's like one of those things that's so funny because it's so played out.

But I think Wood and COVID are just they're they're kind of there. You know, they're sympatico. When you think of COVID, you think of Wood. Somebody say, we wouldn't have made it without him, We wouldn't have made it through this, right. He's definitely He's definitely united people. He's

brought people together. Um, And you know, I don't think we've seen the last of Wood, but but I do think at some point, you know, at some point we're gonna just become like immune to it, like if you watch not crazy shit, like you just become immune to it. Like when I first started at the NFL. I used

to put together. I used to edit videos, and one of the videos I would do is I would keep track of all the major injuries every week and I would put together that real and so I would see broken legs, compound fractures, all of these injuries, and after a while, it was like it didn't bother me. So you were going through all the footage that the broadcast networks don't show, don't show, and I would put that

together and categorize it by injury. And I became so immune to it, and any time I saw somebody break a leg or dislocate an elbow, I was like, cool, And I think. I think eventually we're all gonna be immune to the shock value of big black. You know, it's gonna go away and we're all just gonna like, oh another big black, Okay, cool dude. I can't even watch a guy roll his ankle in basketball. I don't know how you did that job. Yeah, no, it was easy, and you just get immune to it. Um. The other

thing that came up, this was amazing. So I got a notification from Shasanne. You know, she's an everybody knows she's an. We talked about you know when a drunk Jasam works out. So I got a notification. If you don't know what She'sam is. Jasam is an app that you can get. It's a great app. You hear a song, you don't know what the song is, you tap a button. She's Ane listens to it. It tells you the name of the song. You can download it then too iTunes whatever.

It is great apt. I got a notice okay yesterday that we finally found it. I'm reading this. We couldn't find your Shazam earlier, so we tried again. They found the song. The first time I shazamed it was March eighteen. I got this message yesterday on April thirt Have they been looking the entire time? They had their best people on it? Have they had there? But they're like, Blend, you don't needs this song. To me, that is the

greatest customer service. Because I forgotten, like it's three weeks ago, like I completely forgot about it, like completely forgot about Mexico. I'm not still thinking about Shazam from three weeks ago. But when it popped up, I could not have been more excited. Like it's like finding twenty dollars in your pocket, you know, from pair of pants that you forgotten, you know, you put it in there, And so I was so a free shazam. That's how I looked at it. So

I hope this isn't just so. This name of the song was like some some classical song. It was the symphony number seven Angel of Light by the Helsinki Philharmonic. I don't even know when I was listening to that. I don't know if I was watching TV or watching something and I heard the song and I liked it. So now I got it. All right, Let's let's do Brandon Blandino Joe and then we'll wrap it up. Hurry up. I gotta got a tub of peanut butter half faith waiting for me. Did you get another tub? So good,

I've got three of them. I'm still eating cheesecake for my birthday that I made. Dude, I'm so jealous about that. Like that looks you know what I did. I actually went and got American dream cone and through a through a scoop of peanut butter in it. Not the shame, it's not the same, but it was pretty dawn good. Here we go. The shame the cop car can't get out of the back childlocks? Question? Mark, Yeah, so you can't get out of a cop car. Have you ever been in the back of a cop car? You can't

just get out? Do they? Is it childlocks? Is they? Do they get How does that work? Why don't you tell us when you were too? It doesn't matter, But I'm just saying, is that do they have do they have a button? Or are they manufact that way that they can't open from the inside. I would imagine it's probably, I would imagine it's the same technology. So yes, so it's just childlocks, basically, rump. So if he if if you know, if it's his buddies in the back, you

don't you take the childlocks off? If it's a perp, you leave the childlock song. I mean, I'm not a cop, but I mean I could ask a couple of friends, but I think, all right, like, why wouldn't you Why wouldn't Joe leave us? Leave? Leave us? Some comments? If you know anybody that's a cop, you know, is it childlocks? Is special? Are they built that way? Inquiring minds wanted, I'd be willing to bet that it is just childlocks. It would work exactly the same. Okay, that makes sense.

Its true solved. Joe solved it. Next time you're getting into a back seat of a police all you gotta do is hit that hit that button. Make sure you Meanwhile, Joe, seriously, thank you very much. I oh, look, if you're listening to the show, the audio quality is not what we're used to. Obviously, with social distancing, we can't be in the same room. We're trying our best with some technical troubleshooting. Um so again, appreciate you guys listening to the show.

The audio. Once we're done, you know, with this quarantine, we'll get back to normal. The audio will uh you know, improve. And Joe is doing a fantastic job. This is two compliments in the same show. Joe, so I'm gonna go puke and uh and that he said, wait, but even Tom Brady had Internet issues is with his interview with Howard Stern, and he blamed it on Derek Jeter because he's living in Teter. So Jeter has crappy internet and

is the square foot mansion. I'm gonna have to tattoo this date on my on my arm or something too. Compliment Day Special Day. All right, let's go cue the music. Joe This has been Good Calls with Deem Bladino. Please follow me on Twitter at dem Glandino and in Graham at Dean dot Blan Blandino, all the show on Instagram and Twitter. A rules podcasts, and be sure to radar podcast on iHeart Radio app and on Apple Podcasts. Good Calls with Dean Blandino is a production of I Heart Radio.

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