Episode 40-This week we answer three big questions. Is the NFL serious about change? Will there be a baseball season? And when is it acceptable to dance over to your friends?

nothing different than being in studio then it is. But I like that Scott's very opinionated and he's knowledgeable on actually a lot more topics than you and Joe are, so absolutely like Joe, Joe has a certain wheelhouse. Travis, you have a certain wheelhouse. Um, Joe's gonna Joe knows, you know, the sports game in world. He knows m m a um. Maybe maybe a little bit about sports. Travis. You're you're kind of you know, horse riding and all of that outdoor stuff from myoming and Scott can cover

everything else. The history of the world is what I covered. Let me tell you what I just heard. It's more about why woman, we'll talk about later. I just heard Joe's not knows all the badass stuff, and those guys know all the Joe Joe knows. Joe knows about electric cars. This is true. Meanwhile, Joe, I don't know. I saw the I saw the the electric car. Porsche has an electric car now that takes the take on or something. Have you seen that? The Model X blows it out

of the water for half the price. Don't even get me started. Don't even get me started. The Model X blows it out of the water for half the price. I don't know. I saw one and I was like, Oh, that looks nice. I think that it's nice looking, but it's performance wise not even close. Yeah, who works the car? That looks nice? Now, I'm just I'm nursed, Like for me, it's not with something the hood. Give it five years and they might maybe be able to sniff us. Maybe.

All right, fair enough, all right, let's get into obviously, um a lot going on right now in the sports world, and a lot of it doesn't involve the actual playing of games or getting back to playing games with with obviously with COVID nineteen. But the thing, the kind of thing that jumped out was what we see it what feels like a real see change and a real reversal in terms of the NFL's approach as it pertains to UM, the national anthem, Colin Kaepernicks things like that, and this

let's start with let's start with Drew Brees. You know Drew Brees, I think anyone that has been and I've been lucky enough to spend time with him, actually got to talk to him before the Super Bowl on the field, and uh, you know, an unbelievable guy, super nice guy. You can't find someone that's more respected in the National

Football League. And he made some comments that that I think a lot of people felt, Mr Mark Um, you know, regarding his thoughts on the flag and how he wouldn't agree with people taking a knee because of his backgrounds and his grandfathers fought for this country. And there was a lot of backlash for Drew speaking his opinion. UM. This led to him apologizing UM teammates works that players

were uh kind of up in arms. Felt felt like the comments Mr Mark this is it's tough, Like I think it's I think for me, yes, considering everything that is happening for for for Drew to come on and talk about the flag, it just it was almost dismissive of the issues that that that not not are just taking place now that have been taken place and seemed to have been brought to light, um even and further because of the George Floyd situation, and obviously that's that

you know what happened there, and it just kind of it kind of missed the point for me, It missed the point about what you know, it's not about the flag. It's not about I think that's been the missing the missing deal in all of this is that that what Colin Kaepernick did, at least for me, it wasn't He wasn't trying to disrespect the flag. He was trying to bring attention to something that's happening in this country, that's been happening in this country. And that was um, you know,

his his approach to it. And he felt after talking to Nate Boyer, who who is a former Army Green Beret, rather than sit, Nate recommended that he kneel and that would be less they will be seen as less disrespectful to to you know, armed forces, better veterans and people that are currently serving and people that have family members. So it's just a it's a really interesting time right now.

And and at least the silver lining and all this is that we're having these conversation and we're having uncomfortable conversations. And I'm sure it was uncomfortable for Drew Brees, but you know, I don't know, I don't know what you guys think in terms of of of how that was the was the fallout warranted and and kind of where do we go from here? Oh, the first and I

think it definitely was warranted. Four years ago he made these similar kind of comments, threw breeze it and then it was, you know, for whatever reason, it was okay. But now it's too many people have got on board, and too much momentum has has has finally, you know, come up with his comments again this time. You know, the first time it was it was ignorant. In the second time, it just seems like it was blatant. And he's smarter than that. I think he just needs to

stay away from that. But the apologies are are great, and it seems like now we've got the conversation rolling in the right direction to see change. And I'm I'm happy about that that's that's the most conviction I've ever heard from Travis and since I've known him. What did you have a thing with Drew Brees? Did Grea to do something to you? No? I actually I've worked this charity events before, I have friends and would be like addict to you, because that's what it sounds like. No,

he wasn't. But it's just to me, the timing was so bad. He just needed to think about what he was going to say, and and he did and he didn't and it and it was just disappointing to me because he's done so much good for for the league and for himself and for charitable donations and things that he's done since like you know, his character is just you didn't think about it and that's just the time. And I think that's the thing it's like. But that's

that gets me to a bigger question too. Is someone like that that probably does more in his community or does more for charity than all of us combine um and that all that more than most people who walk around in America ever think about doing in their lifetimes. He probably does more in a year. And and are we in this environment where one fault one this step, whether it's social media or something that we say, does that care down all the good that that person has done?

Can we be Can we be judged on our best and worst moment? You know, like like does that tear down everything? And now people are gonna see Drew Brees in a certain light? Is that fair? I don't think it's fair. He's he'll he'll recover. I mean, people will forget about it. I think Travis is dead on them. Like the timing is just really bad. And as being a friend of a sea level celebrity, my friend Shane phaz and I always make sure that you know, I was,

you know always. I think it was a bad move for his friends, his agent, his manager to even let that come out. It was how do you not pre you know, give him the before then and say hey, dude, stay away from this as far as you want to get away. I don't think there was. I don't think it was. It was an intentional like in terms of coming from a bad place. But sometimes you just have to understand right now, especially um for for white people, you know, it's we have to listen and we have

to educate ourselves. Um, continue to educate ourselves. Um, you know, before we start throwing opinions around and just really start to listen and start to you know, we can affect change in a lot of different ways. And making those sets of comments, I think sometimes that's that's the whole the whole shole movement back a little bit, and I think that's one of the issues. I think you brought up a good point, but it goes as far as

like what is cancel culture and things like that. But what is important to remember is that he's such a pillar of the community, which is why it's almost worse than if it was just, you know, a different person, because I'm going to refer to a friend of mine. He is a African American guy. He's from Mississippi, is named Carl Targe. He is a very funny after comedian writer. He is from that area, and he made he tweeted is out, which I think is absolutely true, which is

you know, New Orleans is six black African Americans. You know, that's one of the blackest cities in America. People worship Drew Breeze there and the team is a huge source of pride. Obviously, they've brought hope to the city in the past as well. So when you want to talk about reading the room, you know at this call it whatever you want, these heightened emotions or just like a focal point on race in America to make that statement when he did, and as Travis said, he's repeating something

he said in the past. It's like whatever you think he truly believes. It is one of those like, yeah, publicist things. It's like read the room, my friends, like what are you doing right now? And that's also why, Yeah, it is a black city, so you need to remember that even though you're a pillar of the community, you also lected you know, so uh and it's worth sorry, his words carry more weight. I mean there there's yeah,

there's no question. And I think that's a good point, um, because this this is again, this is a guy, like you said, repeating something firmly believed that and and and hopefully in all of this. And that's the thing about cancel culture. And that's the thing. We we can't continue the dialogue and we can't affect change if we're we're we're just once somebody does something takes the misstep, we're just forgetting about it. Because we all have different opinions,

we all have to exchange those opinions. And then and then he came out and he apologized. And if it sounds like obviously he's see here and if that's if that's somebody's mind, who has been, who has been? I won't say change necessarily because you don't know what, but at least he's been. He sees the issue with making that statement, and he's going to change the way he approaches things. That's one more person. And then we just

continue down that path. So we have to have the freedom and at least the ability to exchange those ideas and have that that uncomfortable conversation um in order to make you know, make the changes that are not sssari Well and his teammates responded, you know, both negatively. But then when he you know, he afterwards he made it apology because multiple apologies, and his teammates are like, hey, he's listening. So yeah, it's just now it's working together

and moving forward. It's not like his teammates are. They seem to have acknowledged, you know, his sincerity. So you know, we just gotta wait and beat And if you see in these locker rooms, there's there's so many uncomfortable conversations that these guys have that we never get to see as outsiders working in the media or in different jobs.

You know, our fans listen in the show. I've been I've been in the locker rooms as as a PR intern, you know, way back in the day with the Vikings, and you hear conversation with things that are thrown out there. This is years and years ago that you you would be very uncomfortable if you if you heard them. And there's a private conversations, which which is great because then

they're talking about it. So I'm really curious and anxious to see and hopefully here about some of the things that go on in the locker rooms, you know, going forward when when the teams do get back to the how many times and I agree, and how many times we we have we have that environment, like there are times when we're in the studio and the group of us and think about over the last couple of years, the groups that we've had, especially if it's you know,

maybe it's Friday night and and it's it's one college game and we have more of an opportunity to talk think about the people we've had in the room. You know, whether it's myself, Joe You, Travis Scott, Adan, Mike Davis,

African American, Genita African American. The conversations that we've had about rape and different things, I mean those some of those conversations have been uncomfortable, but they're necessary, right, They're necessary because this is what's happening, you know, whether it's a locker room, whether it's somebody's job, whether it's it's it's interacting with people on a daily basis. Those are

the conversations we have to have. We need. Me as a white man, I need to see other people's perspective. I didn't. I can't have another person's experience. I do have my own, but I have to be able to open my eyes and see what other people go through and try to try to find some common ground and say, Okay, I didn't I didn't recognize that because I didn't experience that,

that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I can't dismiss it, and I can't just and it's no longer good enough to just say, well, you know, I'm not racist, and I treat people. I treat people based on their character, So I'm good. Now what what? What? What really has to happen, is we have to take the next step and say, Okay, that's good, but we have to now

have conversations. We have to we have to, you know, if we have children, raise our children the right way, have conversations with our with our people who are close to us, talk to people from different backgrounds and different and different races, and kind of figure it out because because this has been happening for a long time and we still haven't seen the changes that that are necessary, and maybe this is the maybe this is the the

key moment in time. It feels like, it feels like is a year that people are going to remember for a long long time and hopefully it's it's it's a positive, not a negative. I think it just comes down to being locked up and all of it just finally coming out and everyone. I think I think it comes down to us lacking empathy as a society. That's really what it is, to be quite honest, We're just empathy and

empathy and compassionate, all those things. Um And I think it really what it really boils down to, Dean is there are good calls and there are bad calls, and Drew happen to make a bad call, and this is all about and a couple of bad calls ruined the bunch, right, Maybe that is that how it comes pretty much how it goes. Let's nice, nice segue, Joe, let's talk about the So the NFL kind of did it about face and it and it came from and this is such

an interesting story. UM NFL employees. UM kind of reached out Brendan Mentor, I don't know. I don't know Brendon. I worked in the NFL, but I don't know if he started after I left, so I don't know him. UM kind of reached out to started with Michael Thomas, I believe from the same and uh, and reached out about doing a video. You know not this is not

sanctioned by the league. This was something that that he and I think another another employee came up with and they and I think we lost student this video where it's it's got's the stake Juan Barkley, Barkley and and Jarvis Landry and Michael Thomas and and talking about you know, you know, bringing attension and speaking you know that they are George George Floyd as well, and this was not something went kind of behind the you know, such a

high the league, but obviously an important issue. Then they presented it to the higher ups of the NFL how to zoom call, and it led to Roger Goodell coming out and saying that the league got it wrong in two thousand and sixteen. That's a big, big deal and that is that is Um, you know, I've been in that office. I know how it works. And uh and and so when you speak out a lot of times, um,

there are repercussions. And this was this was really a courageous, a courgeous deal and uh and it seems to have have shifted some some some thoughts stuff in that league office, which is which is a positive. So um, you know, I think it's again courageous and hopefully hopefully this is the start of the league really working with the players and letting the players, um, you know, voice their opinions

and hopefully since some serious change can happen. Yeah. I think we all saw that Goodell video around the same time and just started texting at to different people and and to him for him to say that they were wrong, it's it's just huge and it's great. We're seeing change now, I think. But the bottom line is, I mean, ultimately, do we do we think Colin Kaepernick is gonna get signed by a team? I don't know. I don't. I don't think so. But I don't know if that's even

really the issue. I think what his his purpose was to get this message out and and unfortunately it took too long for this message to come out. Had to come out in twenty sixteen or seventeen, maybe his skills would have diminished. But now he's thirty two and he

hasn't played in four years. I think when there's a guy like when there's a guy like Cam Newton out there, but it was probably better younger like, but go down the roster, go down the roster, go down, back up, go go down to two and three, you know, even even just to have even just to be in training camp Colin, I don't care if he could have at least three or four years, Colin Kaepernick should be on

a rock. I mean, you can't argue that. The argument that he does is look at look at the players that NFL rosters right now, and and that there are some people there's some people that are gonna say, I don't care what Roger Goodell says, until Colin Kaepernick gets signed by a team that not that on CBS this morning, said that he's like he wants to see Kaepernick Signdon wants to see change there and that's why that's how good?

Oh I think, you know, I still think a lot of teams are afraid of stepping in there and signing it. And and you know, there's just I I don't think he's gonna end up on a team. And and if I might just sent a little I thought the good

Dell's statement, well good. It's just kind of like, you know, it's important symbolically for the league to kind of come forward, but it's like too little, too late, you know, like the player testimonial was powerful, But for me on the cynic, I was just like, well, it's react like yeah, it's just kind of like alright, well wow, very cool if you don't but you like, you know, like you're saying, also, we gotta see action on this, because otherwise it's just

empty words. It's it's it's the equivalent of when Jerry Jones took a knee with the team and it's like, wow, okay, so he did that one. Well, things are good now they're not that we need. That's that and that's exactly. And now it's time for the transition to actions. Like I get it and all of the you know, the social media stuff and and everything else. And I think

that's that's raising awareness and solidarity and everything else. But at some point, like I can't, I can't just I can't just post write a black rectangle on my Instagram page and feel like I've done something. It has to go beyond that, right and and and you know it's we have to continue to have these conversations and and effect change. Um, I can tell you right now in regard to Kaepernick, he's um nine to one dog to get signed this year. Yeah, that's pretty good. Actually, I

don't know, think about think about a team. Okay, this, this is the conversation that's happening. Okay, if we sign him, there are gonna be some people that say, we only signed him, we were bowed to external pressure and we put him on a we put him on a roster. Um. Now, he let's say he's just not you know, he's not cutting it and he's not panning out, and we're gonna cut him. There's gonna be backlash. There, there's gonna be backlash. Look, the reality is I see this stuff around the country,

and I'm amazed because I don't feel that way. But I can't. I can't stick my head in the stand and and and think that there aren't racist people out there, and there aren't people that aren't going to watch the NFL because someone's signed con CAPERNI. There will be. I think the smartest thing to do would be to sign him, especially i'd sign him right this second. I think it'd be a really intelligent move. Well, I think those teams have to, like, there's no question he belongs in the NFL.

He belongs in the NFL in two thousand sixteen. Um. But again there's there's, for lack of a better term, baggage that comes with it. And that's what. But the thing is, like MATTHEWM. Jenkins said and others, Roger Goodell can say all everything he wants, they can release all the statements they want, but until their their actions are what what's going to prove that they're serious about this? And and that's then that's ultimately what it's going to

come down. Yeah, right now be a good time for someone to sign him, so they could you know, there's gonna be a meet circus around it, no matter what happens, when it happened, if it happened. But right now with the you know the ability that to be zoom called, do zoom calls and not have to be in front of media, but you have to think it. Even at training camp, there's gonna be a huge, huge gathering to

talk to him. And I think, but but time, but time would yet I think it'd be smart sign Now, I think he's smart from a PR perspective, but I think he's just a good enough player to play in the NFL. And especially when you look at the quarterbacks who are succeeding. Now, yeah, the still in the league is a that's the thing. The talent, the talent you can't are if you're liking exactly. And so that he couldn't provide value to a team as a backup quarterback,

you can't argue um that he wouldn't. And and that's what I think. Ultimately it's gonna come down to um. And also also real quick, the people who say they're gonna stop watching the NFL, they said that a few years ago, nine percent of people will still watch. They don't it's football. I don't disagree with that necessarily, but remember the ratings did drop. There was you know, and I know it was you know, the ructions was part of it and all of that. You know, We've we've

got an election year coming up. You know, it's it's I I don't I don't disagree that people are gonna watch, but but don't be like naive to the ignorant that takes place in this country and and the kind of some of the people and the way they they perceived some of this stuff that's happening around the country. It's it's scary sometimes. UM. All right, So then just shifting gears before we take a break. So the league opposite and out of memo protocols, the player return the club facilities. UM.

Some teams are returning coaches. I talked to UM some coaches and some people on coaching staffs around the league, so they are back in the building. It does feel like though, the more people I talked to this this kind of feels like more of a pr that, hey, look, you know, our coaches are back in the building. Things are things are returning to normal. Whereas the coaches and people that I talked to said they were getting more

done from home because they were zoom meetings. They can't, you know, they can't have the players and be on the practice field right now. So the zoom meetings have been productive. Everybody's been able to communicate. And the other thing that's changed is now they're in their office at the facility still having zoom meets. Like they're not together in a in a in a linebacker room or in

a in a defensive back rooms having meetings. They're they're doing it through zoom and uh, and they're doing it based on the protocols and and you know, you come into the facility, you're getting you have to fill out a questionnaire when you get up in the morning. In terms of things like I had to fill out I went to a dent my dentist depointment last week. I had to fill out a questionnaire. Have I had any sense? Have I had a call? I? Have I had a

fever in the last fourteen days? All those things. Then they get their temperature taken. I got my temperature taken at the at the dentist. I was ninety seven point eight and they let me say, um, I was wearing a face mask. They're gonna have to wear a face mask, and they're gonna have to wear face masks, face covering throughout their day in the facility, and they're in their

office doing zoom calls. So um, it's interesting to see how how this plays out because a lot of people I talked to you said they were being just productive at home because everything is virtual right now anyway, right, Yeah, I agree, But it seems like it's just like a symbolic like we're getting back to work, and I think there's and look, I'm not an arguing with that. I like the positivity. I like the optimism. I think we need,

you know, we need positive right now. And so um, you know, I I know, I don't think it's bad. I don't I don't think. I just don't call it what it is, you know. And and the thing is like, I still don't know. I don't know what to believe. I don't know. I don't know what with with COVID, the you know, the World Health Organization, they make a statement that if you're asymptomatic, that it's very rare that

you would transmit the disease. And then so that headline goes out and everybody out, Oh it was a sham. It was a farest. We shut down the economy, we shut down businesses, and it was all a lie. And then they kind of walked back and and the doctor that made the comments, and well, I was just to answer a question. And now I've read that it's six percent of asymptomatic people can transmit what Somebody please help me because I don't know what is going on right

now with COVID, no comment. I have no idea what's going on with it either. I've settled into working from home, so out of this it's like I've enjoyed it. So I get to spend more time with my family. That did you know? So thankfully, thankfully, no one I know has it or gotten it. But you have eight kids, so you have time with them. They're they're in an impressionable age. I don't know how you did. Three wives. I don't know how you do it. I know they have I have two shildren, one wife guy, But I

don't know. If doctor didn't help me. You you know a lot of about this. What what what should we be doing right now? Should be? So? Should we want Joe doesn't want a social distance? Should we still be social distancing? With all. I mean, I look, I get it with all the protests, I think the peaceful protests and everything else, but we're in the middle of a pandemic. This has to have some impacts. I think I think

it will have some impact. But I think also we're seeing cases rise in states that have that reopened a few weeks ago. I think we just, you know, you just have to play it by ear as far as like you know, no one is and expert on this is a new thing we're dealing with. So I'm I'm all for you know, we're trying to reopen, so trying it back into like you know, NFL, NBA like training facilities are reopening. But you just gotta be careful. I mean,

that's that's all you can say. And uh, you know, I know you guys have said this in previous episodes too, but I it's hard to foresee, like the NFL season may start on time, but it's hard to to imagine even a half build stadium point until we know more and we're learning new stuff every day, so hopefully we get we get it figured out here, all right, So like that seems like a good time to take a break,

let return it thank you. All right, let's take a break, and when we come back in the bottom, we're gonna give updates on all of our professional sports. When will we see professional sports back in America? Next? Unger calls all right, we'll back on this call. And I just want to I just want to mention the dedication that Joe Madrid has to this show. Um, he he is. We're recording this show and he has other things going on. He's about to he's about to put his boat in

the water. Um, he's down. I don't the way you are, Joe somewhere in Arizona, and uh. And he took your time out of your day of voting and water sports to join us for good. And appreciate that. Of course, I appreciate. Appreciate you guys moving the time up a little bit so I could catch sunset. Thank you, m

beautiful sunset. So let's let's kind of run through. We talked NFL, NBA, Um, so we gotta we got a firm return date of July thirty one, right now, So teams will start their respect, respect and training camps on the thirtieth. Then they're gonna report to the stan Wide World of Sports Complex in Orlando and UH and then seasons start July. One tentative NBA Finals date has them starting September thirty. So some clarity now in the NBA

season starting to crystallize. I think. I think one of the only questions for me is, you know, I kind of feel for teams with the better records that earned what would normally be home court advantage, because now forgetting home court advantages out the window at this point. And so I understand that's that's the reality of it, but you just kind of, I don't know, is there an asterisk, you know with the season. I think all of the

seasons could have an asterisk. But at least I'm I'm really happy that we've got a date, we've got a location and UH and like we talked about last week, right, twenty two teams UM and UH I will go from there. So this whole year has an asterisk, it's gonna be like like, oh yeah, it's kind of all right, So yeah, ask for us some everything twenty is it's got a lot of calling on UM, NHL depends on who when that there's an asterisk. I think NHL teams UM, you know,

are the reopened their rinks the facilities. As part of Phase two, they can start the voluntary workouts. Uh. Several teams opened up this week. Small workouts and training camps are not going to start before July tenth. We talked about the the right to the four teams playoff format, which I think is going to be super cool and excited about that. My Rangers are are are in it. So we haven't had a little rabbit that playoffs for

my Rangers in a while. So I'm happy. And and so because I think NBA, NHL, NFL, I'm pretty uncomfortable, college football, you know, I think has a bigger hurdle. But like I said, you know, the feedback that I'm getting and I think, um even the n p A has has alluded to this is that we may end up with a shortened season. We may end up with the delayed season. Um, but I think we're gonna have a season. It's gonna look different, uh, depending on where

you are around the country. Uh. And and and then certainly the CFP UM they're planning on playing on schedule. The championship game is January eleven one in Miami. Anybody's interested in uh in joining me in Miami. I will I'm taking uh, I'm taking requests for the trip. UM. So you know, I think I think NBA, NHL, college football, UM, NFL. I'm feeling like, at least better than not that we're gonna play right baseball. I don't feel that way. And

and baseball. What what scaring me about baseball? The owners and the players can't agree. And you know this last proposal UM where where the the owners proposed to seventy six games season with co rated salary. They're still considering that a pay cut, a second pay cut that the players have already agreed to one, and the saying that's just backward. I don't know where they play baseball this ship. That is disappointing, Like they missed their their their window

of opportunities to play games. You have Korean Baseball going on, you have UM, you have the CPVL going on, and and they just missed a time where they could be the only game on. And it's not it's it's it's most you know, you're mainly it's mainly an outdoor sport for the most part. You know, yeah, you do have an indoor stadius, but it's not a bolt of hockey.

Basketball and football and baseball baseball is the least contact right you you you're not, it's it's to me, it's the easiest sport to to to you know, mandate and work for social distancing guidelines. Uh yeah, I don't know. I I it's disappointing. I kind of get I get where the players are coming from. I can see what

the owners is talking about. But figure it out, you know, because because this, this to me feels like we're not We're gonna lose the season here and this is gonna be would be the second time, um, you know, in in addition to where we don't have a World Series, you know we don't we just don't finish the baseball team, this one never youve got started. Uh, And it would be it would be a real shame because you know,

this is baseball. Obviously, I think football has certainly passed has passed it in terms of popularity, and but baseball is really when you think of the history of this country in the fabric, it's it's intertwined, and it would be it will be sad to not have a baseball season, but it is what it is. I hear the Houston Astros are pulling for a new season. No, the Astros, you know they they they win big. You know, the Astros were We're gonna be at People have long memories,

you know. So when baseball does come back, the Astros will get there. I just don't think it's going to be as intense because if everything that's happened, but he definitely won baseball to come back, a shortened season would be so offome all the games. It means so much. And think about like a September, you know, we September where we have NBA Finals going on, potentially NFL Final going on, you have baseball going to the end like an independant rate in college football and NFL like it

just it sounds so so amazing. It would be pretty Yeah, there's no good news from the baseball thing right now. It does feel like if they can't figure this out by like the end of the month, that it's just off, they're just going to cant the LEAs. Yeah, and that would be and obviously that has ramifications and people. You know, there are people that work in these stadiums, there are

people that rely on the outside of the players. You know, most players, hopefully you know, they're at a point where where they can they could sustain a lot of season, but there's there's other people that really can't. And uh, and it would just be unfortunate. What would be the

long term effects? It hasn't not the first time that has happened, but uh, you know, it's just it just feels like they gotta they gotta find some common ground and make this and make this happen because to me, like you said, they're playing baseball around and around the world, and uh, you know Korean Baseball League like you said.

And the interesting thing about the Korean Full League. The fun thing that I saw I saw a picture online where they put stuffed animals in the crowd and and I think that would be hilarious, Like I think we should be. Why aren't we doing that, you know, for for NASCAR and golf events and everything else, Um, we putting stuff to animals. I know they got in trouble a couple of weeks ago for putting other kind of

dolls in the end the stands. But if we could avoid that and just put you know, stetti bears and some rabbits and things like that, I think that's hilarious. Um. But yeah, that that's the update. UM, some positive news in terms of NBA, NHL, UM college football. Still we still have some runaway so we'll see how that plays out. For baseball. It's it's kind of teetering on the brink right now. And it's like he said, Travis, we don't

get something done, you know, at least some headways. You know, by the end of the bus, it's gonna be hard for them to uh, you know, to get to get it going and uh and finish any time of the season, which would which would suck. Yeah, we don't want that. All right, let's uh, let's take a break. When we come back. Are we gonna have We're gonna stuffed animals in the crowd and we're gonna have stay crowding on NFL broadcast that some other items when we come back

on Good Call. Alright, we're back on Good Call. And this seems to be something that broadcasters and obviously you know we worked Fox four. Then they're talking about doing and actually implementing in different areas fake crowd noise. So NFL broadcast partners considering using fake crowd noise if that's one is using fake crowd noise. UM in Bundisligo, which is the German UH soccer League. UM NBA considering NBA

two K sounds for crowd noise. Sports is working with the A Sports DEFA division to create UM specific crowd chants and noises. What what do we did that would you what? Would you wanted to keep crowd noise or would you want to it's possible just have silence and touch more of what the players are saying, or or both as possible. What do you guys think? I want to see. I want to see no no no audio. I want to see no fake crowd noise. I want to see what it sounds like being there close to

the action as possible. I just feel like there's you know, there's obviously smarter people in me out there making the decision to put this stuff in. But I think it's just kind of a journalistic integrity type thing, like we don't want to put you fake stuff out there. We hear about fake news. Why K crowd noise? Like I said, let's just have the natural sound of the game, and maybe you'll have to turn down the mics every so often,

probably more often than than you do. Now you get the older standards of practices, people involved, they'll have to have their mute button ready. I think it's cool. Like with the UFC, I think it really it kind of changes it and it's it's it's interesting to hear more of of what's actually happening in the event. I don't like the crowd noise being pumped in and like, what are you gonna do when when you're a home team you get to control how loud it goes when you want, Like,

I think it creates a false advantage. Yeah, what one thing I'm unclear are they going to pump it into the stadium. Also, because I believe the boom died to broadcast. It's just for the people watching, Like they're not playing crowd noise and chance in the stadium, so it's just for the fan experience. I think believe the broadcast right Yeah, yeah,

y um. Because yeah, like I've watched Bundest League at highlights, it's they're putting in like you know, when a goal is scored, people go crazy, but the people, like the players in the stadium if not being broadcast into the stage. See, I'm thinking that's going through the speakers and stuff. I'm a little split, you know, because It's like I remember a few years ago when I worked in the highlights department of Box Sports, I had to cover a really

long range delayed baseball game. So at the end of the game, there was maybe forty people at Yankee Stadium. Still it was like one am. So hearing the crack of the bat like echo and hearing like yelling from the dugouts is cool, But I think I don't. I couldn't tell if I thought it was cool because it was a novelty. I don't know what I want to watch, you know, all NFL season with just you know, hearing

just kind of yelling and stuff. I don't know. Because I'm so trained to have crowd noise, it is a little weird when it's not there. Yeah, I think it would be weird. I think we're weird without crowd noise. I think it's um. I think there's probably ways to do it where it can feel natural and um. But I I guess enough to experience that I know, right, didn't the NBA. The NBA did an experiment. I know it wasn't without crowd noise, but they didn't play any

like like artificial noise. No no to watch an NBA game, right, there's music during the game, there's you know, all of these things, a lot of electronic enhancement, and they they didn't play anything because they wanted to give the fans just the pure experience of just watching the game without all the extra bells and whistles. And everyone hated it, Like the players hated it. The fans hated it. They did that mad Gard and they did um and they

were just like people went crazy. And that's why I think, like, you know, watching that, Yeah, UFC is interesting. Um. I think it's it's you know, you do have if you've watched The Ultimate Fighter, you kind of have been exposed to a little bit. But I don't know, like those big sports. I haven't watched any of the Bundesliga games, so I'm not sure. I just want to watch for myself and and and figure it out how they're using

this crowd. Definitely yeah, um, speaking of UFC, big card USC two fifty, I believe is that crazy or what I mean? I remember UFC one and with with voice Gracy and but two fifty, Um, Amanda nunyez. It's it's did you guys see the fight? Joe? I know you watched. Um, I have to question jo and beyond it, you versus Amanda Nunaz in a fight, and then the rules usc rules five rounds, five minute rounds. Who is how old am I? How long do I have to train for

this fight? Right now? Right now? I'm giving you six I'm giving you six weeks to train to fight Amanda una Um. I'd say I'm an underdog. She's bad, definitely pretty big underdog. She's no joke. But but but I'm I'm she would kick I'm seventy pounds heavier than That's a huge deal. I don't care, all right, we have an advantage though, yes, yes, of course it's an advantage double your size. I still I think she's I think she's is Definitely she's the greatest female combat sports you know,

fighter of all time. I mean she's nasty, that girl. I think, yeah, she's good man, she's real good. All right, what what what would would you be? The underdog? What would be I'd probably be like, um, giving my weight we're talking about probably no, no, not that big. I'm thinking like you probably get like plus five hundred on me, and I'd say, bat me, dude, I've you know, I've got I've got to I've got to, really, I've gotta warrior spirit, your warrior spirit up off the ground. That's fine.

You know what you did on Fight Island. I want more information about I'm intrigued. I've never been to Dubai. I'm intrigued. Dana White. You Dana White, you wildly after you got me hooked? Man, I am in and then the other. The other UFC news is how many times does Comma McGregor retire again? Is that? Is that? Is that? What happened? At least this is number three? What's what's the what's next for Connor? If this is real retirement? Does he does he fight Floyd again? Make it? Make

another eighty million? Um? Does the the you know, I know he's been very successful. Look his what is it? It's proper twelve brand has done unbelievably well. The guy never has to work again. I get it. It's a combat for the stuff you put your through, your body, your body through the mental aspect of its training, weight, cutting all of it. That is not an easy way to make a living. So if he wants to retire,

that's great, more power to him. He he's made his he's made his life and future generations of his family's life that much easier. Um, with how he's done. But then stick to it, man, because I can't like this is like Brett Farve. How many times the Brett Farve retire and then come back and this and that, And he's saying he's going stick to it. And also but don't be don't say there's no big fights down there, right, there's big fights for him, don't don't And he blocked

exactly well, well he beat Travis. Remember the horse riding. You stick the horse riding. We'll handle the m M and stuff. But the thing is you can't there there and and look this. The UFC is better with McGregor. I would say they need him, but he is by far the biggest draw. It's a different environment when he's fighting. Um, the sport is bigger when Connor McGregor is involved, and he brings more attention to it. That that crickles down

to all the fighters on the roster. But it's just that it feels like an interesting time with the UFC right out because he's John Jones. UM. A lot of these other nadias they're not there, they're not retiring, right, he's gone. So Judo's retiring because they're not making the money other than McGregor and some of the top guys. They feel like they're not getting the cut of the tie that they deserve, you know, and they can't make these fights. Um. You know, they wanted to make the

fight with mathmdal and retired. He quit too. He asked for take a deal for him to fight Usman. So so it's gonna be Gilbert Ferns. This feels like that McGregor does retire, the USC will survive. But you start losing these guys, you know, a John Jones, a mos Medal, Nadias, You've got Nick Das out there that hasn't fought. Uh. You know, these guys jumped to jump to a competing you know, a competing uh, you know organization like Bellator. That could be a big deal. And I'll tell you what,

Gilbert Burns, you heard it here first. Gilbert Burns will win that fight. He is nasty. It'll be you know, I like both of those guys. I think it's gonna be a good fight. I certainly could see Gilbert Berns winning that fight. Um, it was not the beast, so I don't know what the line is, but but I would take I would take Burns all day because he's such a no name, so the line will be affected. I would jump all over that he's nasty. All right, Well,

there you go. I did say at the start of the show that Joe has a couple of a couple of things that he that he knows about. M m A would be one. Um Travis, you sent me this. I think this is fascinating. I had no idea that this was taking place, and if I did, I would

have been out there. You mean, the rest of us would have been a modern day team of boonies as far as Pan had buried a treasure in the rockies, one million dollars and worth of like what gold and jewelry and and it apparently was found over the weekend. You you sent me the story. What's the deal? I heard it was too so in two thousands ten. Yeah, what what do you say, Joe? I heard it was two million dollars with the golden jewelry. Yeah, it could have a value of two million dollars now because it

was buried in two thousands ten. Um so before a Span was an art collector and in New Mexico, and he found out he had Sydney cancer and he thought he was gonna die. So he put together this, this bronze chest full of collectibles and gold and all kinds of different things worth like a million dollars or two millions somewhere in there. And he in his memoirs he wrote a poem where he hid this in the rocky mountains somewhere. And people have been searching for us for

the last ten years. And someone supposed we founded on Sunday, which is amazing because this thing has been you know, people have quit their jobs, people have died looking for this, Like he's been sued by multiple people because they put their lives in jeopardy because of it. Oh, come on, and you you made the us the risk. I know you knew the risk, but he was in He's an eighty nine year old man. He said, even he could go get it. So it wasn't it wasn't something that

you needed. How did I not know about this? You I followed the sports about five or six years. I probably I probably knew about for five or six years. But we could have been searching for this. We could have been and I think we've got if you think about the goonies, I don't. We've got a team here. We we could have been out there, we could have been finding this. Um. But yeah, I think that's so cool. I'm interested to see what, you know, how they found it?

Were there were there booby traps, like like when he doesn't want found it doesn't want to be named. Okay, that makes sense. You know why where's our taxes? Bro? I either I would. I would like a gold challenge to the I R S. You know, here, here's your here's your third present, or whatever the heck it is. Um.

But I think that's hilarious. I think that's so cool. UM. And I wish like I could get to the point where I could have a treasure and on and on my deathbed, I kind of hide it somewhere and have people look for it as my legacy. I thought it was a great marketing scheme to sell more of his books. I mean, that's genius to me. It would have been marginius if there was no treasure like yours. You uh, either way before it came out after on Sunday and said he's like kind of kind of glad it's over.

But you know, sad that that that the search is over as well. So he is he's still alive. He's still alive. Yeah, he beat he beat the kidney cancer and now he's still alive. Yeah. So the story when he buried it, when he had cancer he thought he was going to pass and then he beat it became this big and so it took ten years and of course you would have think would not be the year anything like that good would happen. But obviously no, I'm interested.

I think the dude doesn't want his name disclosed because there was like multiple like helicopter rescues, and you know a few people died it. He's probably like, hey, all the helicopter bill is probably gonna go to him. The guy that found it. A great cynical thoughts on this. That guy is just a treasure hunter. He found it. Well, I think it's a cool story. I have nothing wrong with. The cops actually called him and said, can you take it, like stop doing Scots like Scott's like I just stopped

back from the rocky five years. We've been going every every day. I mean, you figure, if you spend five years looking and you find it, you're still like you're still making a couple hundred grand a year. All right, speaking of a treasure and people searching for treasure. What's the deal with Vegas? Joe? Can you go? What asional? What's the deal with Vegas? I want to go? But what is my trips gonna look like? Can I go to restaurants? Can I go to shows? Can I go gamble? What? What?

What does it look like? You deaf on league gamble? You could definitely go to restaurants. I don't know about the shows yet. I'm assuming they're open. I'm going. Um, I'm going on Friday, so I'll be there later this week and I'll be able to report back next week. I'm doing it for work, Yeah, report back because we definitely Luca, my my oldest um for the listeners, nine years old. We've been planning wanting to go to Vegas,

try some different restaurants. Um, he wants to, you know, hit the crap table and but you know, maybe hit the Rhino. But I just need to know. I just need to know what, you know what, what's happening before you know what? Dean s sense a good friend and I love Luca like like he's my own. I'm going to do all that for you guys, and let you know how it goes. I'll give a full report. I do know that the crap tables, I believe they're minimum

or maximum six people. Now there's plexiglass all over like the black jack tables, and I just can't wait, Like how long is it going to take for some me just put a fifth through one of those things because the dealer hit a sixteen and got a five or whatever. Like it's just I gotta go, just to see this madness that is Vegas. Even more pictures too. I would love to see it. You got it? Anything to you, Scott? Alright?

And now I've got it. I've got a I came across a ridiculous, ridiculous sports trivia stat, like a stat that would be a great sports trivia question, and so I kind of I didn't believe it, and it's true. And so I'm gonna give you guys three I'm gonna give you, guys, which one is true? Okay, I'm gonna give you three different scenarios stats related. You'll understand what I'm talking about. One of them is true, the other two are false. You have to guess which one is true, Okay.

So so here, here's the here's the three things. Um, Madison bomb Gardner has more multi home money games than Babor. Yeah, that's the first stack. Okay, second stack. Manu Bole hit more three pointers in one game in his career than Steve Kerr did. And then the last that Peyton Hillis. You remember Peyton Hillis. He had a couple of good years with the Broncos. Peyton Hillis has more three touchdown games in his career than Eric Dickerson. I'm one of those,

is true. Hellis is true. Peyton Hillis is true. He was my guy. Don't me to a fantasy title. Fantasy title. Peyton Hillis. I'm a champ because of Peton Hillis so Joseph's Peyton Hillis is true? Travis, what I'm gonna go with Madison Bumgarner in the multi home run There is no way that one's not right. There's no way that one's right. But then the god Steve per One was Manu pal had what was it? Meat manual Is hitting more threes in a game and a single game than

seker in their careers. Single game records in single game number was higher than Steve Kurve. Well all I'll say, is I know there is that one game where he hit like five three I believe in a row. Uh, what's your answer? Maybe it was five, you know, I'll just go with that, and then all of us have a different one. Yeah, I mean that one right now. There's no way Travis wins. Absolutely no way. Okay, I'm worried about. I actually think the manupal and then the

home run one might be those two. Okay, so I'll give you. I'll give you the two that are false first, Okay, so Joe's right, Madison bomb Gartner, Dave Ruth one is not is not correct, okay, Okay. The other one that's is Peyton Hills game manew Bowl hits six three pointers in one game, okay, And Steve Kerr's best and Steve kurb has the highest percentage career or something ridiculous like top three career and Steve Kerr's highest in the game

of five new poll actually has. That's awesome for the listeners if you want to know, I was like that, I didn't know that. I didn't know that game that Scott was referring to. But I mean, I can see, you know, one game, but I knew there was no way favorite, the favorite thing is right. But if for the listeners, if anybody wants to know what Travis looks like, he kind of looks like Steve Kerr. He does. He does look like Steve Kurr of Steve Yeah, he has

Steve kurt He definitely has Steve kurve um um. I could have known that that would have been the answer, because that's the only thing that's like NBA is like in the news right now, no one's really talking about like NFL that. They're definitely not talking about baseball. Everyone go to YouTube. I think Maneul was on the bullets at the time he did it. Maybe he wasn't, but his his shooting strokes is like a catapult, pulling gas

and then launching. Remember that, I remember that. But you would have thought you would have thought so Steve Kerr would have happened those on those Bowls teams he would add more than five around for him to get all those shots. Oh yeah, because the other guy, because the other guy, the other guy was that one dude, that

one guy that wore the asshole would have been running around. Yeah. Well, if that's of course making his teammates feel bad and not letting Steve Kurb beat the note ball on a three point context and I just want to let you know, Um, a mad and Unions is eight. Okay, I'm six, So it's a hundred pounds and the significant reach difference. So I'm just she's gonna throw that out there. I'm still putting my money on her. I don't blame you, Yeah,

I'll put it on her. Fine, all right, Brandon Blend, you know, call guy over he does a dance or shuffle on the way. What the fun was that? Yeah? Seriously have you ever experienced that? Of course? Like what if you ever any one of you guys, guarantee Travis, you if I see you anywhere, like if we're at a bar whenever we're able to go to bars and I'm like, hey, and I walk in and hey, Travis, you like to do like a dance shuffle over to me?

We're no longer friends, friendship, no guarantee you have your experienced that. Have you experienced that that? That seems like a Carrera thing? Would definitely that? Yeah, definitely good Scott, good call. He would come over and he would do like the shuffle and then give you like an uncomfortably long hub, like it would your shoulder rub the shoulder rub. Where do their weird shuffle like off off beat? Like what like there's no music a hunter kind of like

you're in a conga line, but no one else is there. Meanwhile, meanwhile, that's a great segue. Thursdays one watch the show What's they Called Travis With with Chris Mars The home game The Home Game me verse Carrera in a trivia contest. It airs Thursday. I'm not gonna tell you what happened, but you gotta watch. I can't wait see it. I must see TV, must be TV. All right, Since you've been Good Calls, we you know, we follow that Twitter act you know, and Instagram have been dop blend you know.

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