Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandina, a production of I Her Rating. Hey, what's up. It's Dean Blandina. Welcome to another episode of Good Calls, joined by Travis Hansen and Joe Madrid. Um A little bit billy feel the energy going into this show is a little down. I
feel like it's everybody. Everybody has been It's been a right has certainly in our lifetime, has been this unprecedented type year and there's been so much and looking right, life isn't always easy breezy, and it certainly hasn't been in it just you you yearn for some some sort of normalcy, and it feels like that that gets further
and further away. Right, That's just, Um, we're in the in the middle of this environment that seems to be very I don't know, I don't know what the right word is, toxic, the you know, divisive, I don't know. You just it just feels like there's everybody is on edge and for for obvious reasons, and no one knows what kind of what to expect next. And uh and hopefully we can we can come out of this and we can have you know, obviously, this is a sports
related show, and we'll focus on sports. And I think sports are in many ways our escape, right, but sports can't escape what's going on like this. This this impacts everything. And it's no longer I can turn on right, I can turn on a game and and and kind of lose myself and forget about the problems in the world for a couple of hours, because the problems of the world are in the middle of sports and everything else. So um, it's it's just I don't know, I don't know.
I just I do feel kind of down and uh, you know, and you don't even have Travis to give you some cheesy quote to pick you up, because he's just Travis is the up that glass half full type guy. And I do I think what I need right now, Travis is I need a pep talk. And so I'm gonna give you twenty seconds to make me feel better, Okay, to go for it. In the waters flowing, man, it's gonna keep flowing down. And and we're gonna get out
of this. You know, We're gonna keep climbing. We're gonna be at the top of the mountain as soon as as soon as this all passes, and and and you know, we're gonna look back on this and just think, Ah, that was just the COVID nineteen. We got through it, and you know what you're I don't know what the water I don't know what the waterflall means. I don't know either to believe you're at the top of the mountain, water away from you. But I feel better. You mean,
laugh and laughter is the best medicine. That's what I need right now too. You got both my kids crying, I hear, am I now so bad? What are the other six doing? I don't have I don't have eight kids. You get the other six or quiet? Um, So let's let's talk some NFL news. Some pretty some some pretty significant NFL news came out. Um. One of those deals that you I literally until they announced the fines and the punishment. I had forgotten that this was a thing.
Was the Patriots for filming the at the Bengals filming the UH the sideline right, filming the Bengal sideline during a Browns game in Cleveland, And I completely forgot about it. And the NFL announced the penalties, which were the fine at one point one million dollars, a third round pick.
I believe in the draft. Um. The uh, the fin which I think this will this will get a lot of I rolls around the league, is that I don't know who, but certain Patriots, um, you know, employees or whoever it may be, will have to go through NFL training on policies and guidelines. So so that, like to me, is a big eye roll because they know the guidelines and the policies. Yeah, one guy lost his job too. Yeah,
one guy lost his job. And this was it's such an interesting because you know, throughout the investigation and this was certainly pre COVID and everything else. Um, you know, they kind of separated this from the football operation. This was not right. This was the the in house video. This was a third party that was contracted to do, um, you know, to do your job show which which And they were focusing on an advanced scout and what an
advanced scout does. And they feigned you know, they they claimed ignorance, right, they didn't know they weren't supposed to be shooting the field. Um, they didn't notify. Um, the I believe they didn't notify the Browns is what they were gonna be doing at the time. So um, and because I think I have a right, right it was the Browns were playing the Bengals in Cleveland? Was that it? And and the Patriots video group was there filming because they had the Bengals coming up? Is that the story
that's confirmat let me try to find it. So Travis just confirmed that it was in Cleveland, right, It was in Cleveland, December eight, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Cincinnati a Cleveland. The Patriots had their their their video people there and this was again not associated with the football operation. But when you look at when you look at the penalties, I mean, those are those types of penalties when you start taking
draft picks away. This is this this leads over into the football operation and whether you know there was no connection, whether the coaching staff or anyone um in that area knew what was going on, but it just when you when you take the history of the Patriots into consideration, it's hard to see this as an on a mistake, right you just you don't. I don't think there's anybody around the league, the other thirty one franchises that see this as just a misunderstanding. It's just they don't like
I've been in there. Run out of honest mistakes. Yeah, I've been in those competition committee meetings. I've been in and a lot of those, you know, those discussions were generated by things that the Patriots did or whatever, and then they're not Look, this is what everyone's always trying to find a loophole. That's that's just what sports are.
It's an advantage. Um, you're gonna try to use the rules, you know, gain an advantage within the rules, and I think the Patriots and Coach Belichick has have been very good at that. But this is you know, it's again, it's the it's just another it's another chapter in this history.
As we talk about, right, there are going to be people that when you think about this twenty year span of what the Patriots have been able to accomplish, um aside from you know, this Celtics in in the fifties and sixties, or the the u c l A. You know bass men's basketball team, like Montreal Canadians in the fifties and sixties, aside from those types of of of dynasties. This is the modern day dynasty and over a course
of twenty years to accomplish what they've accomplished. But you are going to have people that are going to put a big fat asterisk on this this kind of window of time because of things like right spy Gate and the flake Gate and now this whole deal. Um, it's just it's just the reality of of of how people some people are gonna look at it. And and I don't know if does it diminish does it diminish what they've accomplished in your eyes? Does does in neither one
of your eyes? Do you see this as a black eye in terms of what quite frankly in in the twenty one century is the greatest sports team accomplishment um so far? And I don't think he can argue with that, does this does this kind of put you know, kind of put it in a little bit of an asterisk there? I think any question marks No way. I think everyone's doing it. They're the only ones that have gotten caught.
That that just makes me wonder they just the worst at this because they just really bad at cheating like everybody else. They they always hear the saying you're not if you're not cheating, you're not trying. So are they just the worst at cheating? So they're always getting caught. It's like now Tom Brady has taken it to Tampa with him, and now he's getting in trouble for going to the wrong person's house. He was trying to go to the offensive coordinator's house. He wasn't supposed to. He's
having workouts when he's not supposed to. He's doing all these things he's not supposed to. He's like the habitual line stepper. And then he learned that. He learned that from the h h the HLS, the habitual line stepper. I just think there's so much money on the line, there's so much writing on success in the NFL. Most people are to do whatever they need to do, especially if they could say, hey, we're not hurting anybody, We're not,
you know. I think I think everyone's doing it, but that could just be you know, I and I was involved. I saw it from the inside out. The flake gate was overblowned. The flake gate was blown so far out of no pun intended and exactly and it was it was a culmination of things. A lot of people around the league felt that the the NFL was was not um as hard on the Patriots for spy Gate as they should have been, And I feel like that had to play into it. Um to to hire a law
firm to go through. I mean they went through every everything. They I was interviewed three times. I wasn't at the game, I wasn't involved on site. UM I was interviewed three times. They interviewed so many people, officials, everybody went through this. You know, spend millions and millions of dollars for this Wells report when it was something that teams had been
doing and continue and you to do. UM quarterbacks like the football is a certain way, and they're gonna they're gonna have them at the temp at the at the p s I where their quarterback is going to be comfortable. You know, Tom Brady likes it a little on the lower end, right that the p s I has to leave me two twelve and a half and thirteen and a half pounds. That's what the rule book says. So Tom Brady wanted the football closer to twelve and a half.
Aaron Rodgers wanted them closer to thirteen and a half. Personal preference. So they were going to make sure that tom Brady was comfortable and those footballs were And they used to bring the footballs to the officials and the officials would check them before the game, and they would check the p s I the air pressure, and they would tell they would say, hey, listen, don't don't put
more air in these footballs. If they're compliant, don't add air to it, because you know Brady wanted it, you know, less inflated. And that's just the way it was. Um And you know, air temperature outside teams kempacks the pressure in the football. It does. You could see that in your car when you're driving, when you and you started the morning to say that those balls, you know are not going to be impacted on a cold day, it's
that's you can't argue that. And it was it was something that just got blown out of proportion and it it actually could have been handled much cleaner with a fine and move on. And because look, the Patriots didn't beat the Colts whatever that was that day, forty four whatever because of the footballs. They just were the better team. And uh, I think when they catch something like that, they just have to the league has to do something or it just looks bad to the public to say, hey,
that's just how it goes. People aren't going to be happy with that. Well, not with the Patriots either, because they had already had no well that was the thing. Any other team, it would not have been a big deal. They just wouldn't have been. There's so many things that are blown out of proportion in the and and then you then you get into the you know, now the pay Riots continue negative news around the Patriots, and then
positive news for the Patriots. Who do they sign? They signed Cam Newton and this has been you know, this has been one of the things that have been speculated is where is Cam gonna end up? And everybody kept coming back to how cool would it be for him
to end up in New England? Right Brady leaves they you know, they're they there are two quarterbacks writer Jared Stitham and and and uh Brian Hoyer, who's who's feel like this is like his fourth time with the Patriots at least, right um the So they end up signing Cam one year deal seven and a half million dollars,
which is amazing. You think about Cam Newton former m v P, I'm signing for a one year deal when you have you know, I know, Richard Sherman came out and said that was ridiculous when you have some of these backup quarterbacks and some of these other quarterbacks making big money. But it just look, it's the market is what it is, right You you can only you're only gonna get paid with somebody's willing to pay. And and he wasn't gonna get paid big money. Now he goes
to the Patriots and he has a big year. He's gonna get paid in one if he stays healthy. And what I love about this and what's intriguing to me, is that for twenty years paid pete Patriots say everybody, everybody that knocks Tom Brady says he was a system quarterback, right, Well, well, the bottom line is what the Patriots did for twenty years, what Belichick did, everything they did was to make Tom Brady comfortable, was because they saw him as their their
biggest chance to be successful. And so we're gonna design our our our our game plan, and everything else is gonna be revolved around Tom Brady and his skill set, which is smart. You put people in position to be successful to play through their strengths. They're gonna do that for Cam Newton if he stays healthy. This could be like this is gonna be really interesting because I remember going back before pre Brady, um with the Patriots. I
remember Ray Lucas. Ray Lucas who went to Rutgers, who a lot of the guys that I grew up with in Ay, we're friends with. You know, Ray Lucas had had some success with the Patriots because he was a dual threat quarterback. Didn't play that often, but when he went in, Belichick designed things that were suited to his skill set. And and I'm not comparing Ray Lucas to Cam Newton. And when people say, you know Cam Newton, Cam Newton is not a running quarterback. Cam Newton is
a good quarterback when he's healthy. Like, yes, he's doing a threat because he's running for what yards in his career and he could you know, he's he's had those types of seasons. But Cam Newton healthy, Cam Newton with Bill Belichick designing a system for him, could be. It could. It's scary. It's scary to think what that could be. What could happen. He was he was good. You know your Super Bowl fifty. The dude was nasty. He just is inconsistent. Well yeah he's and I think he's like
his accuracy has always been an issue. Um, you don't he doesn't have like that he he doesn't have. You think about the arm strength and your arm strength is there there, but he doesn't necessarily have the touch like a Patrick Mahomes or or some of these other quarterbacks have. UM, but he's I don't know if you've guys, if you guys have ever had the chance to see him in person.
He's massive. He is. When I've been on the sideline near him, and you if you didn't, if if if you didn't see his number, you can see him next to defensive lineman and you you would you you weren't sure who the quarterback was and who the defensive line was. He is a massive, massive human being. And again it's just gonna be interesting to see. Um. You know how they design a system around him and I can't imagine, you know, I think he's gonna be the starting quarterback
if he's healthy. Yeah, I mean the reason the contract is look so low. It's an incentive based deal that he could get up to seven and a half millions because he's coming off an cole injury. He's coming off of a shoulder injury, and he's he's got a lot to prove and he's gonna he's gonna have the chance to compete for that starting job and probably win it over two guys. He's more talented than the crazy thing I think about with Cam Newton is I always go back to that play in the super Bowl. It's in
the fourth quarter. I think it was like third and ten. He gets strip sacked and he doesn't dive football and and that to me, I look at that and I just go, I don't want this guy on my team. This is the super Bowl. There down six points at the time like that, That to me, is the biggest game of your career. Like that. That was my favorite player. That was my favorite place. He's always gonna be. There's knocks on him in terms of, you know, some of
the way he's handled. He comes across as like kind of like pouty at times, right, especially got super Bowl. After the post game, he got a lot of flak. But guess what I mean, he just lost super Bowl and now he's got to sit up there and answer questions that maybe he felt bad because he didn't dive on that ball, So who knows what his emotions are. I love that play, travel I love that I had The biggest bet I ever made was on the Broncos and that Super Bowl. I loved that play, love cam
for that. That was super Bowl super Bowl fifties. Wasn't that particularly great game? That Super Bowl was terrible. Here's my story about Super Bowl fifty. Okay, so you remember, you know, former referee, good guy, Mike Carrey, Mike carry went to CBS and did what what I do? And what prayer does? Geene started? He was yeah, and Mike, look, Mike, and Mike is a smart guy. Mike knows the rules. Um, intelligent guy. And it just it's TV is not for everybody.
It's hard. It's just hard, and it just didn't suit him. Um. And so before the game, we have you know, we have production meetings with the crew and CBS and so it's it's Lance Barrow, who's a long time who's a long time you know, you know, lead lead producer for CBS on the football side. Also, this a golf great guy. Um, and uh you know, then you have you have Nansen. It was Phil Simms at the time. This was before
Romo and and Mike Carrying. So you have this meeting with the officiating group and the referee and we're talking about if there's a replay review, and Mike had had a tough year and there was a lot of you know, every time Mike carry came on the air, it felt
like Twitter had a field day. And um, you know, so we said, listen, you know, if there's a replay review, we will call the truck and we will let you know what we're gonna do before we do it, so then you can start talking about it, and then Mike can talk about it, and we're all on the same page, and it just it'll look good, right You'll Mike can explain it blah blah blah blah blah, unless he absolutely disagrees.
But this is how we're gonna do it. So in the first quarter, I don't know if you remember, there's a there's a pass play UM ruled incomplete on the field. Panthers had the ball was the third down play. It was a huge play in the game early on because pay Panthers complete the first down that kept the pass her first down. UM, it's ruled in complete on the field, goes to review. We let it stand. It was just too close. Whatever they ruled on the field, we were
gonna let's stay with it. So I have one of the guys in the replay booth as we're going through this, and we're like, okay, you know, yeah, we can't see if the ball hit the ground or not. Um, it's too close. I said, call CBS and let them know we're gonna let it stand. So never forget Jay Reid, who worked with me at the NFL still works in
the NFL. Um he picks up the phone and like I hear him like, say hello to somebody, and then I hear him like not say anything, and I go and I look, I go dig tell CBS that we're gonna let it stand, and he's like, yeah, but I my carry just said that you're gonna overturn it on the air, and I'm like, what are they doing? So so we come out and we say we're on the field stands. Mike Carrey has already explained that it's going
to be overturned. They never go back to him again, and he doesn't get his contract were due by CBS after that. Yeah, and that was the thing, Like we talked about it. I was like, we'll tell you what we're gonna do. I don't don't say anything, and well and it was just like it was it was interesting you guys were telling him and I was telling him before, so he doesn't. So just so listeners know, that's not how it goes down when you're in studio. You don't
know what the call is. Oh no, no, I don't know. Not the norm. But this was this was the spet right the Super Bowls to special right. Obviously it's a it's a different circumstance. And you know, and we've done that right the Super Bowl ast year when we had it, when Fox had it, um, you know, they were they were going to call the truck on a replay review and let and let um you know, the truck knows, so Mike would know um to you know, what to
what to say. It's just it was so like, just like I just so frustrating because I was like, listen, what come on. I mean, we're trying to help here, and uh, you know, don't don't don't jump the gun. But that was that was a sipoleif and Ronder there will still to this day debate me on that call. Um then and and I always tell them the same thing. Hey, if they had ruled it a catch, we would we
would have stayed. It would have stayed a catch. It's a big play because then the the I think the next play or two plays later there's a strip sack and the Roncos getting the ball. So UM ended up being a big play. So UM Patriots, Cam Newton, let's switch gears and talk a little bit about college football. UM something as we think about COVID, and this is
something that I don't think a lot of people understand. Right, we think about okay, players and coaches and everything else, but right there's another group out there, the officials that are gonna have to be prepared and there's gonna be
protocols that they're gonna have to go through. One of the calls I was on actually on on Monday, UM was with the the football one of the football manufacturers for college football and talking about what we can do with the football's to um ensure that they are um, you know, sanitized for lack of a better term. And and and so you're going to you're gonna you're gonna
look at this. Two ways you're gonna look at this is, you know, is there a process where we can we can clean the footballs and then and then from and then secondly, a protocol is to who's handling the football's. Can we limit the number of people that are handling the footballs? And and how can we ensure that a football doesn't become contaminated. So the conversation basically there's there's three options at this point. Um, there's there's companies that
that have, um, you know, a UV solution, right. UV light is supposedly the UV light is supposed to kill germs, including COVID. So you take the footballs and you put them into this box and it has UV light almost like a tanning booth for the football's. So going back to my Guido days, right, g t L. Right, if you don't know what GTL stands for, look it up, right, Travis. What does gt L stand for? Jim Tan laundry. That's right, baby,
Jim Tan laundry. So case your time. So the UV light, right, you would have the footballs you would put each each team UM prepares typically you know, eight to ten footballs. The rule book says six for each game. You prepare
eight to ten footballs that you're gonna use on offense. Um, so you would take you would take those footballs, have them in this UV tanning bed before the game, and then you would have to ensure that those footballs are handled by the ball people and then that ball goes outside. Because think about you know, I think you're gonna have limited people on the sideline. But when people are on the sideline and the ball goes on the sideline, what what do people do meet they pick it up right
or it goes in the stands. Now, don't touch the football because if you touch that football, it's going to be contaminated and it's gonna have to go in a quarantine before it gets cleaned again. So there's a UV light option. There's a there's a basically like a hand sanitizer solution that's that's um is a probable What is that is a probable? Alcohol? Come on, Joe, you're the you're the chemist of the group. So that one, it's a it's a spray. It's a spray that you would
spray on the football. It's alcohol base and it would it would you know, eliminate the chair and stuff like that. Yeah, but it would be a spray and uh and it would dry quickly because it's alcohol based. And then you can do it that way, which will be a less expensive option. And then there's there's others that include a water based solution um which which you could you know, clean the football, and and but that would take a
little bit longer. But the whole thing is when you think about football is you don't want to you don't want to to you know, change the integrity of the football, you know, making change the tackiness or the stickiness or any of that stuff. So it's gonna be interesting. It's like, these are the conversations we never thought we would be
having that we're currently having. We're talking about you know, chain crews, chain crews, you know, do they have to you know, are they going to have to be tested because they're on the sideline. Are they gonna wear masks? You look at chain crews across the country. Chains are typically older people, right, so now are you gonna have to have younger people which is not necessarily a bad thing, but are you gonna have you know, these older people that are on these chain crews, that are that are
in this at risk you know demographic um. So it's chain crews, it's replay officials, it's on field officials, it's all it's ball it's ball people, you know, people that are on the ball crew. Everybody that is going to have contact with a football or a player or a coach. Um is gonna have to be tested and and it's so many layers to this that it's just Um, it's a big, big hill to climb before the season. And you can let him up. You can let him know
I'm available for employment. I can move them chains and I'm young. There you go, you can you can be on the chain, and I'm not scared of the COVID bro man, What do you want? Okay, Joe, So you're I'll give you the pick of the litter. You want to be on the chain crew? What do you want to be? Do you want to be the drive start guy? So the drive start guy wherever wherever the drive starts. So say it's a touchback and and Alabama gets the ball first and ten you you sit there with a
stick and you stay there the entire drive. Okay, So that's the drive start guy. Do you want to be on the actual chains? Do you want to be on the front stake or the backstake? So they they spread out the ten yard chain and the front state guy, you're the guy that comes out. That's that's the real exciting one. I want to be measurement because you come out and you hand it to the official. I want to be active and on the field. Yeah, I want
to be that dude. I don't want to be I want to be you want to be the line of scrimmage guy. Do you want to be the guy where you're always at the line of scrimmage so wherever the ball goes, you're gonna be. No. I think I want to be the other one, the dude who who you want to be? The chain yea gets where you want to give me a real tight jersey. There's also a guy that records down that the information, the card guy down the distance the yard line. Is this real? Are
you joking? You're more of like a You're more of like a paper person, like a pencil per share. You could do that? Are you serious? Is this is this all real? There's there's four dudes, there's there's like nine dudes. Since there's nine, I just female. There are some female chain crew. Um, not enough, but there are female chain crew. I feel like there's that's it's something. It's also overblown. There's just too many people to do a very simple job.
Here's one more, Here's one more before we go then another story that came up on the call. Actually, um, so you remember the kick six game member over in Alabama, right famous Obviously that that's a that's a rivalry that the Iron Bowl, and and you know if you're if you're from the South, obviously you um you know all about that. But it's certainly so the kicks six game, right, that football. So the field right Alabama, Alabama, the game is tied, Alabama attempts a long field goal at the
end of regulation. Um, I think it was Chris Davis who was the Auburn players in the end zone. He catches the short field goal and returns it a hundred and however many yards for touchdown to win the game. So the equipment manager. Everybody celebrating, right, and they're all throwing their helmets. So you don't think about this, but they're all throwing their helmets and the equipment manager is
responsible for those helmets. So instead of celebrating, the equipment managers is talking to his assistance that we need to get eight something helmets, right with all of the fans and everybody else. And they recovered all but one of the helmets. Okay, so you think about the mayhem of
what happens. But then the next thing is they got to get the football, like you have to get that football, so they recover the football and uh so the thing is right, each team uses their own footballs, so that football is actually in Alabama football, right, But Alabama is one of the there's only I think two or three teams Alabama, Georgia Tech, and I think Michigan is doing it this year that don't put their logo on the football. So that football is displayed in Auburn at the university.
But people are upset because it doesn't have the script A and because that would have been But and the reason why Alabama footballs don't have the A is because they couldn't. When they had it, they couldn't keep it. People were stealing footballs because it had the Alabama. So now they just don't put the logo on because they're worried about, you know, you can't keep a football because Alabama obviously such a um, a big time program. So there's my flas are cool with the logo painted on,
and it's like they're really cool. Yeah, no, they're they're they're really cool. UM And that's you know, and that's part of and and those logos. That's how the officials know there's the right football in the game. Sure, right, so because if the Patriots on offense, then we need to have a new England ball versus the Ravens on offense. And that's how they know. So, you know, it's interesting, Um, you think about all these things that go on behind
the scenes. All right, let's uh, let's take a break, and when we come back, we'll we'll update on the rest of the sports world and the return to sports. It's one twenty next on Good Call. Hey, what's up. We're back on Good Call. Smooth is a little bit better since Travis gave us a pep talk, but during the break, during the break, he got us down again. Um, a lot of COVID stuff. But let's let's talk positives. Let's talk MLB returning Travis. What are kind of the details.
What's the latest. Yeah, the teams are releasing sixty man rosters. Um, not everyone has gone to sixty yet, but at some point, um, you know they're gonna have to cut down. And we've kind of broke that down into thirty players the first two weeks and down to and down the rest of the season. Everyone else is on what they're calling the taxi squad. The taxi squad was an old term they used in football back and like, uh, well, how how long ago thirties or the forties or how long ago
was that? Yeah, the taxi squad. That's the practice squad they but they don't call it the taxi squad anymore. It's great now. And that's and I think as you think about the sixty man rosters, one of the reasons, like some teams I know, I forgot, I forgot which team was the White Sox of the Tigers only only only listed forty four players. Because the thing is if you if you add somebody to your sixty then and then you eventually say another another team cuts a player
and you want to pick that player up. Um. If you cut somebody, they have to go through waivers, um, and so any one of the other teams can pick them up before you could resign them. So I think teams are just where at that. And then, like Travis said, the first two weeks of the season, you'll have thirty
players on on the active roster. Then they'll go to the next two weeks and then for the rest of the season and everybody else will be available for you know, basically call ups and things like that if you do have if if you do have people you know getting sick or testing positive. And already you know three players UM reported have opted out for UM to two players
from the Nationals, Ryan Zimmerman and Joe Ross UM. You know, I know Ryan Zimmerman as UH has a newborn UM his his wife has some UM, some health issues, so obvious concerns. They're UM Michael Leak from the Diamondbacks also opting out from the seasons. So it's gonna be interesting to see you know, Ryan Zimmerman, you know, probably not right now at this point in his career a still you know, a pretty good player, but he's not I
wouldn't call him the player that he once was. But it's gonna be interesting if like a you know, uh, Cody Bellinger or you know somebody of that of that stature opts out. You know what the you know kind of what the pushback will be on that. Well we'll think about it too, like what what does a guy like Mike Trout or Cody Bellinger who have Mike Troud who has a huge contract, what does he have the game by playing like I'm just gonna sit this one out. I don't want to get sick. I don't want people
around me to get sick. Like I'm gonna sit out and make my you know whatever X amount of millions I'm gonna make and it's not gonna hurt my reputation I gave me. I think I get that, But I also think think about you know, there's that there's if you're a competitor and you just think about what we're doing and think about everybody. And I know I certainly can only speak for myself, and I feel blessed. I'm certainly not as impacted as as others. But I want to get back to work, like I want to get
back out there. I want to get back in the studio. You know. Um, I think there's a desire to to get back out and again that that sense of normalcy. Um. So I think a lot of people are gonna feel that way. And and you know that there's never look, there's no COVID or not, there's no risk free environment. Every time we every time we we step out of our bed, um, you know, we're at risk of something.
And it's just that's the reality of it. And as you know, my favorite term from the twenty nineteen NFL football season, this is the world, this world we're in. I thought you're gonna go with this as the new normal, and I was just gonna jump through the now Joe doesn't like I'm reverting back to this is the world we live in. Um, you know the rule changes we talked about last week's same deal. You know the the the universal d H this year, Um, extra innings are
gonna start with a runner on second. Um, you know, I like the kind of the you can't argue and and and no fighting, no spitting prohibited. How how are you going to police that? I don't you know what's gonna be the penalty for that? Talking about the player, because that's like muscle memory. Man, you're you're up. I played baseball. We all played baseball. You're up, you're in the batter's box, you step out, you spit, right, that's
not that you don't even think about it. Guys spit on your hands, on their hands, and you're gonna get in trouble for spitting on your own hand. Don't even think about it. So, UM, I don't know I have I would imagine they're gonna be leaning on that. I can't imagine what's the umpire gonna do. Hey, don't don't spit all right? Good? Um. I like the fact I
love the three battered minimum rule in general. Um, I think that makes sense to you know, that's you know, less less pictures, less less people being you know, you know, entering the game. It's all good. Um. Any player can appear as a picture, which is a normal rule. Um. They were gonna get rid of that though. They were gonna make it so you couldn't have flip positions. Yeah. I like that. I like it to it makes it fun.
I like the you know, when it's eighteen one, you know, do you really want to waste an arm in the dugout, in the in the bullpen? Well, what's always some of the best baseball memories. You got the guy throwing eighty six mile an hour fastball. That's kind of fast, but he's throwing like seventy fastballs and his curveballs down to like fifty nine and you don't see that, and guys in the dug out are laughing. I would love I would love to know what the what the overall e
R A is for? For you know, even just the last five years for non pictures coming because because you do see some of them like they you know, they do pretty well. They get out of the inning, you know, maybe if they give up a run or two, um, because because major league major league batters aren't used to you know, a sixty five mile per hour you know, you know, if is pitch or whatever. So um. But but I think that's I think that's interesting. You know
the other things. I know, Travis, you had you had said that I guess two of the Twins coaches, um, will not be working games just because of the health concerns and and being you know a little bit older. Um, So it's gonna be interesting to see that. Uh. You know another bit of news that I read the Blue Jays they are going to be able to play in Toronto.
I know that was a concern. If they were gonna have to play in Dunedin, which is their their their spring training facility in Florida, that would have, you know, created some missues. So being able to play in Toronto
will be uh, will be a positive. And obviously you know the whole border thing and and and the border still closed to Canada, um is going to be something that we have to we have to consider um switching gears to the n B A. You know, I think again we've kind of gone through what everything's gonna everything that's gonna happen. The season is going to resume. UM
looks like end of July. UM. So you know you're gonna have training camps coming up pretty here, pretty soon here in Orlando, starting the ninth three interes inter squad scrimmages, and then you're gonna have those those seeding games which are gonna be really the first two weeks which are you're playing tournaments, um, and then the playoffs are gonna are gonna be mid August UM and uh and yeah,
and that's gonna be the season, you know. The Adam Silver said on Monday, the NBA returned plan may not be for everyone. And we're already seen several players say they're not gonna they're not gonna take part in the season. Um. The Lakers Avery Avery Bradley, whose son has a respiratory illness. UH. Portland, Trevor Reza, who's was actually um spending time with his son. He's in the middle of a custody battle, so he's gonna take you know, I think, uh, some time away
to spend time with his son. Uh, Davis, this one's an interesting Davis Davis pertains um from the from the Washington Wizards, who's in line for big contract news who has had injury issues, not health issues necessarily in terms of like COVID, but a c L and things like that. So I'm not gonna put at risk that big, that big next contract. So he's gonna sit out. Will we
call a stein with the Mavericks. He's suspecting a child. Um, DeMarcus Cousins, who think about DeMarcus Cousins recovering from injury? Focusing on de Marcus Cousins, what was it? Joe three years ago was like you know, you you consider him a top ten player, and now he's an afterfellow. What you know, he tore his achilles he you know the first conjuries. Um, this guy was was legit, Like I remember and I played fantasy basketball. This guy was like always a top pick for big man um and uh,
and now he's kind of an afterthought. And then U, I know the Nets Wilson Chandler deciding family health concerns is not gonna play. So it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out. UM. And then the NHL. Nothing new on the NHL front. UM, you're gonna have the you're gonna have the the what is it the four team playoff tournament, UM, which will be which I
think is gonna be really exciting. Training camp start to like ten UM, and then everything if if the health and safety conditions allow, then the parties UM have reached an agreement on resuming play. What the length of training camp is going to be in the start date UM is going to be determined at a future date. So that's kind of where we are right now, still still getting ready. You know, we haven't seen any any spring training or any kind of training camp yet. Right around
the corner, though, it's right around the corner, UM. And obviously you know we've got golf going on the nextage other things UM so UM. You know, hopefully these things can go off and and we'll you know, we'll be
able to do it safely. And uh and when we play these sports again and and and who and and if that, if that goes well the next month and a half or so goes well, I think that's gonna bode well for the NFL um and in college football, and uh, and we can we can kind of see those seasons take place and and hopefully they take place without any delay. And that would be imagine NFL and
college football. You know, not there's gonna be some impact, but if they can start on time, I think that would be a win for for for a lot of people. You know, I've got a question for you. Yeah, if let's say football never comes back, what would you do for a living? If it never comes there's no more football? What are you gonna do? There's no more football, all the all the balls are gone. I'd actually, you know
what I would do. I would go, I would focus on I would focus on my writing, and I would go start doing stand up again. I want to see his new stand up at some point. Yeah, I've got a couple of screenplay ideas and working on a working on with a mutual friend Joe Knows. We're working on a on a scripted drama slash comedy um that revolves
around football and officials. So you know, we just had had another meeting with with my agents and and our scripted group at w M E. And and hopefully we can we can make that happen, and uh, and maybe I won't have to Maybe I won't have to do rules and analysis anymore, Joe. Maybe I can just and here's a segue for after the break, Maybe I can just do my writing, my stand up and my cameos. Break Next, not Good Calls, We're going to talk how good my cameos. I'm a cameo performer of the Year.
We'll go through one of my cameos next on good Calls. All right, we're back on Good Calls. We've covered sports. Now we're gonna we're gonna detect into We're gonna dive into the world, the other world, the world of every every other day life, every day of life. Um, cameo. You guys are familiar with cameo. You're familiar with this app. Never used it, but I always hear about you doing it. Cameo is a it's it's ra actually that whoever that you know, they came up with a really great idea.
So cameo is you can you can get and I'll I won't say celebrities because I'm on it, and but there's different levels of celebrity. I'm definitely I'm definitely not the least famous person on cameo. I can say that I should have a Cameo account. What's that? I think you should nominate Travis to have a Gavio account. Yea, so you can. You can go on and you can get your favorite some A list, some B lists, mostly C lists, some D list celebrity to send your friend,
your family, whoever. It is a short video message. UM cameo takes a percentage the person doing the video gets the other the other part of it, the majority of it. So UM Cameo approached me about doing it. I thought it was a great idea. UM went online, you kind of you record a profile video and then people just request you on the app and and you know, I've gotten a bunch of requests. I charged twenty five dollars, which, um, you know, I feel like it is a pretty fair price.
And uh and but these guys Travis and Joe, no, I put my heart and soul for your dollars. You aren't getting the product. Auction value you're getting is off the charts. And I've seen other cameos that other people have done, and quite frankly, I feel like I'm you're getting more for your money with me just saying, what was that, Vince Neil? You showed us that time, right,
he just like mailed it in. But that but that was amazing because he was wasted, right, and he was mumbling, and you would expect, like if I asked Vince Neil for a cameo, like that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a hammered Vince Neil mumbling, and I'm like, I'm gonna show that to all my front I will say, you do, go you do, you do, do a great
job on the cameos. I go well and beyond. And today I got another five star rating my my whatever, eight in a row, and UM, and I shared the video and I want you guys to watch it and critique the video and you can explain while you're watching it, explain kind of the jucks I have the If you need the storyboard, I can email you the storyboard, UM for the video. I watched it before we did this, before Joe Texas that we would do it on the show.
And just watching it, like you put in the time, you put together like a power point for these guys, and you went through so the to the the guy must reach out to to have you give their draft order for their fantasy draft. Yeah, and and I was laughing when the first three guys that you named in four twelve all in that drafting order, We're all named Mike and and then and then you you finish and there's one guy who has his initials is probably his name,
and you're like, these are the most boring names. It was the worst every draft order I picked. It's like you have like the Greek and Joey Walant and you know, like whatever, and this was like Tom Chris. It's just a bunch of white guys and it's the worst named a her And but yeah, So I did their draft order, and I did a power point and I and I listed the picks and I put all the mics together because I wanted all of them. I wanted there to be confusion and chaos when it got to that pick,
because like, Okay, Who's is it? Mike l Is? It might be who's because you have six picks in a row with Mike and you're like, which Mike is it? And if there's a trade, yeah, you go through like, oh, if they're doing the Snake the Snake Draft, they're gonna have six Mikes that it's gonna have six, fourteen at the end of round one, and then one, two, and three at the top of round two are all gonna be Mike, And so I threw it a party bus
reference like here, that's what you're getting for. So trust me, it's it's it takes time. You're not You're not gonna get you. I have four days to do it, and sometimes it takes me four days to come up with the concept, to put the script together, to get the lighting right. So but you know, you'll get it in your four day window. We should maybe do a documentary, a short documentary series on the four days to cameo with I like that for four days. That's I like that. Wow,
see that's why he needs there. We did you know that? And and I think I told you guys this the super Bowl when I was at the game and I was talking to I forget what I was talking to, but uh, I was like, I got a cameo request, and I was like, I can't give this guy a at at the super Bowl on the field cameo for bucks, Like what are all the other people that I've given Like you can't, I can't do that. I'm sorry, Like I can't give you that cameo for bucks when everybody
else got either the studio or my house. There should be surge charging, you know, if you're at a certain place, you should be able to charge. I should be able to say, hey, i'm at, I'm I'm at, I'm at my buddy slide stallansoun story. Who ever told you that story? I was at side. We've heard the story. Have ever told you that? Yeah? Yeah? So um, But I think that's a good Listen again, hold on, I need I
need the floor for a second. You know, I love you and you're my boy, You're one of my best friends. But I have to give you a bad critiquing on this last one. There was a lot of camera shaking, the just the production. It wasn't where it usually is. It's I don't, I didn't. I don't have a tripod. Well you should, you could. You should have a gimbal? Do you want me? I do you want I have one? Do you want me to set up the tripod for the cell phone? I'll use that from now on? No, No,
you should have a gimbal. What's a gimbal? You know? You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna show you what a gimble is. I think were on zoom. It's kind of like a makeshift steady camp. So it keeps your your your camera steady when it's on, like it's on a gimbal is what it's called. This thing. You see it and it just no matter what, you're always as as you move, the cameras always not swaying. I mean, it was a lot of shakiness on that one. I was like, whoa, whoa, what's going on here? Yeah? But
that was that. It's it's like indie documentary style filming. That's fair. It's like it's like Blair Witch. Okay, but I will say I was very impressed with the script and the power point presentation it did. It was funny. So I was like, you didn't think the cinematography was Hey, listen, I'm used to. The writing was great, acting was great, But yeah, that that the cameraman, I have to give you a solid four and a half. All right, Okay, that's fair, that's fair. I always want people to be
honest with me. Another thing that I wanted to bring up is did you guys hear about Dr dre No? What happened with Dr? His wife file for divorce today, no pre nup. Dude's worth a billion dollars. Oh, that's gonna cost him bill. He's just gonna write a five hundred million dollar check being poor dude. That goes back to that goes back to the old Leddie Murphy bit about Johnny Carson and he's like, he's like Johnny Carson
going to his divorce. He's like, I'm sure Johnny Carson had like three hundred million and had to give somebody a hundred and fifty million because if you because if you had five dollars, you'd be upset if you had to give somebody to fifty. And he's got to give his wife a hundred and fifty million dollars. And he's like, and I'm pretty sure she knew going in. He's like, Hey, I'm Johnny's like, I know who you are. Yeah, that was a big that's a big big that's gonna be
a big divorce. I'm looking at some of the other guys on cameo looking at the cost. Charlie Sheens three fifty guaranteed he doesn't put the time that you put in. Should we start a fund just to rate them? That could be a bit on the show. Every week, we just rate a cameo. Let's order let's order a cameo. Okay, let's order a cameo. I'll fund I'll fund the cameo the cameo. That would be fantastic, and we can rank the cameo. That's a great idea. All right, well we'll
do that. Well, then we can even start with this guy five bucks, Chris Gorham. He's an actor. See if he's on, why is Travis Hanson not on? Because nobody knows who I am? You're the Producer's a good podcast we're talking about. Oh he's been in. I don't know. I still come up. I feel like it's not even worth it. Why would he be on for five bucks because he's only he's gonna get what's seventive bucks he's getting Like he's best known for his ABC series Ugly Betty.
I remember Rugly, but I don't I never watched it, but I know the show. Yeah, he's getting three seventy five cameo. It's not worth this time. Well, he's probably doing he's probably mailing in you know, he's what he probably is doing is all his are doing it just for fun. So it's like looking at one cameo, let's come up. Okay, So what we're gonna do is we're
gonna I'll order the cameos will come up. We'll do a Charlie Sheen, a Chris squorum, and let's pick one more like a mid range one, and we'll see who what's the most bang for the buck the same script. Okay, I like that. I like that, So we actually one in the in like the hundred. So this is gonna cost me. This is gonna cost me right to come up with this. But come on, in the middle of a pandemic, right, I'm not sure football, not sure I'm
gonna have a job in the fall. But I'm spending five dred to to compare cameos bucks for Tommy Tiny Lister. Oh you know Tiny Lister is, of course from Friday the Debo Devo. Yeah, of course, you know. I actually like that, Okay, Arlie Debo and and make that list. We'll come up with us. We'll come up with a maybe we'll do like a happy Birthday. We'll come up my friend Joe, my friend Joe is having a birthday.
He's been down, he's been down on his luck, lately, he's down with with everything that's going on in the world, and he really needs to pick me up. And and he is a big fan. I don't know how he's gonna be a big fan of Charlie Gorn, but we're gonna come up with that and we'll see who comes up with the best cameo. Love good plan all right? Cool? Um? The other thing, you know what I was thinking about, we've we've talked about this, uh plan dancing and how
white people really like plan dancing. Um, because if you if if you know, we're not allowed to I don't know. This is uh we talk about plan dancing. We have talked about plan dancing. But this you gotta be very careful about who we're saying enjoys planned dancing. Everybody good, everybody enjoys a good plan dance. I'm saying white people really gravitate to plan dancing because and we have we have video proof. If you tell us what to do, we can we can practice it. That's why on TikTok
everybody's a good dancer. Oh my god, what is going everybody? Because it's a quick it's a quick snippet. You can practice it, you can get the moves down. The true indication of a good dancer is when it's not planned. Music comes on and you're just dance, You're just going, you're just dancing, just moving. That's how you know a
good dancer between a good planned dancer. When you're at a bar or a club, not that any of us have been lately, or anywhere where music is playing, an outdoor festival, whatever, somebody's playing their radio loud, and you can tell who's a good dancer just in that moment, who has rhythm, who has the plan? Dancers are just that's all scripted. I agree. You know, we talked about
this last summer. Plan. I've been talking about plan dancing for two summers now because of you know, to the Right, to the Right, that song every the dance floor just always gets overcrowded, and then like a good song to dance, who comes on dance floor is empty. But I didn't think about this. TikTok is really just planned dancing on an app. You just you just brought me to it. I just realized that anybody, anybody could do it. I don't know, it's hard. I've done. My daughter tries to
do some TikTok with me. She tries to have me to do TikTok's with her, and she's so good at it and it takes me a minute, and I feel like I'm actually a pretty good real life dancer, but I can't take her. You have been on soul Train more than once, so you guys know my dancing. I've I've won a contest we know, fifth grade Wyoming, which was probably which was probably you know, hey, a really stacked field there. Let's just say I'm better than I
was then. So oh, so you've actually improved. That makes sense, you know what? I just um news brief. I just saw that the beaches are closing for Fourth of July weekend and people there, there's gonna be too many people. They close all the beaches for fourth of July. That makes sense because Fourth July is going to be a complete nobody cares and everybody's gonna So I think that makes perfect sense. Just just write the whole year off. Look, we're all, we're all healthy, we're we're all still so
you know we let's where are you going? Where are you going? With the planned dancing thing? I just wanted to talk about what who's a good dancer? And who isn't. I have a theory on who's a good dancer. There's three types of dancers. Two are good, one is bad. So you have the guy who's like a really good dancer. He's you know, he could dance, so obviously he's a good dancer. Then you have the guy who's just out there having a blast, just throwing his arms around. He
knows he's not a he doesn't he's not sexy. And watch. But the only bad yeah, the only bad dancer is the guy who thinks he's the good dancer, but he's not right he's doing these hip and shoulder movements. It's that guy is not a good dancer. And I know a couple of them. So that's my theory. And having fun having fun guy like no, I not, No one can fault that guy like that's fun, like any time, go with it. The one where you hold the back of your foot and whole stay weird oddly, you know.
I love that guy doing the sprinkler and the guy doing the shopping cart. Those are my moves. Those are you That's why I win dance? Is that what you want? The dance contest with? Probably the sprinkler. I'm sure it was in there. I'm sure it was in there. I probably jumped over the leg. You know, you guys know that move where you hold the one leg and you jump over it like they called that the m R two. Did you know? I used to be able to do that.
We we practiced that in my basement, Me and my brother and I used to be able to do the jump through the leg. The one going back over was always the one I couldn't do. I couldn't do the back when I could do the front one. That one was hard. I would go out on the limits that I probably could still do it. Well, yeah, you're so athletic. We'll put that on the when I kicked the field goal. We'll do that right after I make it my practice. I could if I just focused on that for the
next couple of days, I could do it. But I don't. I've got too much other things going on. I'm jumping
rope in my living room. So, speaking of good dancing, I've watched this show on the Discovery Channel about animals and so the I want you guys to think about because I was watching the show about sharks and predators, and when sharks were predators and when they were predated on, if that's a word, and it was insane, like sea lions attacking sharks, and so I made me think, like, what what's the scariest animal in the world, Like, what's the one animal that Let's come up with a list
of animals and decide who's the who is the king of the hill, Who's what's the scariest animal? Animals? People love these animals, but they freaked me out. Is excuse me, horses? Horses freak me out. Yeah, you you can say that, you like camels freak you out. Don't stuff like rattlesnakes. That's scary. I'm talking about like serious scary animals. And what's the scariest I think, like grizzly bears, bears are
up there? Many buffalo or scary, Like there's three water buffalo, those those water buffalo in Africa, those African buffalo, they have more the male, the male African buffalo has more testosterone than any other any other species on the planet. And you watch those things when lions, I mean they they will gore lions, they will defend their young. But I'm just thinking of because it got me thinking about sharks and sharks are scary. You know when Jaws first
came out, that's one of the scariest movies. But it's in the water. You have to be in the water to go get it. You have to be in the water. So if I'm on land, a shark, I have no fear of a shark, right, if I'm if I'm in a boat, I have no fear of a shark unless it's the megalogon and and then you know, then we
got problems. But I have no But it got me thinking about you know, crocodile that can be in the water and chase you down on land, right, or a hippopotamus that could be in both that that is responsible for more deaths m human deaths than any other animal in Africa. The hippopotamus. Um. You know what what other animals? The grizzly bear imagine being mall Remember the scene from The Revenant with uh with Leonardo DiCaprio. Amazing that that
scene is. It makes It's like if you got malled by a bear, it felt like that was what it would look like like and he wouldn't survive. But a grizzly bear, a polar bear like that shit is crazy, not even to mention, like Travis said, the snakes or like the spiders, like like a tarantula is a scary not that they could kill you necessarily, but it's a scary scary. Oh, dude, I know which one is Number one, without a doubt, the Caucasian rattlesnake. Caucasian rattlesnake. Well, by far,
the human beings are the scariest. And it hasn't been much mention of the Caucasian rattlesnake recently, rattles been caged. He's been, but I don't know, Like I was thinking, even in the in the water that the shark isn't even they were showing killer whales, dude, killer whales are crazy killer whales. They were showing killer whales working as
a team. They are intelligent and they were literally they would smack the water with their their fin too, shock the shark its senses, and then eat then eat the shock the like like the stuff that they do, like the intelligence that they have. Um, it's just crazy. We need to end this quarantine. We need to end this because you're starting You're starting to go places that I'm that are starting to scare me a little bit. I don't know, man, And there's a lot going on this brain.
There you go, there's your segue, Brandon Blandina Wow, and and there he is. Yeah, name dropped being god damn it, we can't even talk. What was that? Name dropping? Now? Your location dropping? Oh so somebody that's like that's like on Facebook or on Twitter or on social media Instagram. It's not like you were hanging out with you know,
Tom Cruise last night. That's like I went to Mastros. Yeah, yeah, that's like Joe waiting Mastros or you know, you know flu you know, Oh, Charles de gall The security lines of Charles de gall are so long. It's in the spring, you know. It's like it's like the location dropping is, especially on Instagram, is outrageous. Any girl that's been to catch l A has a picture of her in front
of that door. And if you go to Mastro's Malibu, you you better be damn you're stopping taking a picture in front of that blue you know, the blue sign. I don't do that. You always that's all we do. Now it's like it's like, what are we This is these little snippets of it's literally it's literally one less than one percent point zero zero zero six percent of our life right that we're gonna spend at Mastros or we're gonna spend it the Eiffel Tower. We're gonna spend it.
But that's what you'll see on Instagram, and that's what you'll see because we're putting our what what are our best foot what we believe to be our best foot forward and here this is our amazing life when our life is me sitting watching TV, or me sitting at my computer doing work, or me, you know, playing with my kids. Um dude, I've had a whole rant about this.
I don't remember where if it was recorded or not, Probably not because I don't record stuff very often, but I remember it's like you go to mass Rows and you tag yourself in your location. Look where I'm at. You don't. I've never seen anybody tag like, oh, I'm at Wendy's getting you know a double Padmart? You know, yeah, yeah, deep Land. You know, just checked in the target, right, even targets a little bit of a people love target now.
But I'm talking like like you would maybe checking the target, but you would never check in at Walmart. It's this weird socio economic thing I think we should. Walmart targets higher than Walmart. Dude, that's like a that's a that's a real thing. Just like people. Costco is like a bigger flex than than Sam's Club. We should flip the script and every time. Dude, this is Marona. What are the what are the fees? What are the what are the yearly fees? For me? Can you can? I? Can
I put that on? Like I'm not on dating dating apps, but if I do go on a dating app, can I put that on my profile? I go to Costco? Just say what you would say? And have you say Costco over Sam's? I would say Costco over Sam's. Yeah, I go when I'm not when I'm not having when I'm not having dinner at Mastro's in Malibu six times, six nights a week. I'm usually shopping at Target and
Costco people put Away, not Walmart and and uh Sam's Club. Target. Yeah, I'm telling so Sam's clubs forty five dollars annually and Costco sixty dollars. Boom. We see that's a flex. Dude, that's an extra fans. Hey, listen, I'm gonna do the ultimate flex, right, I've got a membership the year, come at me, boom. I'm telling you we should change it up. And every time we go to somewhere like very basic seven eleven grabbing, grabbing a water, the seven eleven brand,
like we're I'm gonna start checking in every time. Yeah, seven eleven. You know that's how champion, that's how champion popular. Right, Okay, next week, here's the deal. This week, let's see who can come up with the best worst flex. Okay, so you've got to do it on on, let's do it on. Do you have Instagram? Travis No, Well, I once had a friend tell me I've never done anything in my life because I've never put anything online. Clearly you haven't done anything to have it. So let's see you can
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