Ep 38- PI review postmortem, NFL rules change proposal vote and one step closer to sports returning.

Coming over? And Joe with the background, that's her most appear I missed the almost appeared Joe. I'm dreaming of better days. Let's let's get back there quite soon. Hopefully, hopefully we'll be back there soon. Let's get into let's get into some stuff that's going around obviously around the country with the NFL. Um practice facilities are starting open for small groups. What what what's going on there? Travis with just opening some of these facilities. Uh, And then

I know we've got a couple of things. Troy Vincent, Senior vice president or executive vice president of Football Operations, talking about the NFL planning to play in front of full full stadiums until medical community tells us otherwise. That just feels like a stretch right now. It seems like a stretch. But as of what we're going through right now, you've got some teams Cowboys, Falcons, Texans, Cardinals, chiefs of colts all opening up their facilities. Um, not for players yet,

for for team personnel. Um, they're opening up, getting things back going as normal. Um. Players who are going through rehab can be in the facilities right now. Um, But we're not going to see any players at the facilities starting to work out for a long ways away from that still, But I think things opening up is a step in the right direction. Not full stadiums yet, that's for sure. Yeah, that's the full stadiums just seems like

it just seems like a stretch. You see some of the sports that are starting up in Obviously football is still a couple of months away, but it's getting closer. But the sports that are happening, it's, uh, you know, you're not seeing full stadiums obviously, you're seeing social distancing and guidelines in place and and no crowds and and things like that. So I think what I think, maybe what's behind that though it's just you know, an optimistic point of view, like you know, we have to prepare,

is if they're going to be full stadiums. Yeah, absolutely, Is that what he meant by you think? And I appreciate the optimism and and again the medical community, it's gonna come down to public health and safety. It's it's going to and I think you just write there, we're

gonna air on the side of caution. We've been doing that throughout this whole this whole deal, and uh, you know, we're still It was interesting, you know, going to place over the weekend, and we'll talk a little bit more about that later, but being in Arizona over the weekend, it's feels like a different world in Arizona right out and compared to California, going into a going into a like a mini mart at a gas station, and you wouldn't have thought anything was different prior to you know,

it was like pre Corona environment. Don't have the flexi glass up. But other than that, it's pretty normal, pretty big normal with that. No, there was no Plexi glass. Yeah, the AMPM Plexi glass. No. When I when I went into that, I went into the minimart at the gas station. There was no the other one right there. Yeah, yeah, the guy behind the counter, yeah, people in front of me like it was not it was. It was as

if Corona had not happened. And it's an interesting dynamic there because you're right on the border of Arizona and California. So you crossed one street and everyone's wearing masks there and you go to the other side of the street and it's just free for all. It's pretty wild. It's definitely different. And obviously each state has its own guidelines,

and I think, you know, here in California. Then I get back to California and I, you know, I go to right Aid and I got my mask on and I'm in there and practicing the whole social distancing thing. And uh so again still always away. But I just I can't envision Week one, you know, September, that Thursday night there being a packed house. I just I don't. I don't envision that happening. But I do think we're gonna play, and I do think we'll have well left

football on time. At least. NFL football colleges are going to be, like I said, a bigger challenge with getting because you gotta get kids back on campus. You gotta get them reacclimated. And then and then you have to uh you know, then you have to get them get them going. Uh they call it acclimatization. I guess is the is the term. Reclimatization is the term that they're using. So you know, really they're really utilizing this pandemic to

really create some really big words. I appreciate that. Oh this there's a whole vocabulary there is we have created, Like I now, I don't think and I think we're always gonna see part of this you're seeing. I mean I watched an Amazon commercial and the guy they were talking to, the Amazon delivery guy, and you know, kudos to those people, not just essential workers and everybody else

delivery people, garbage people, everybody, sanitation workers. But the whole commercial is just him with a mask and and and it's just you know, you stop at McDonald's and or you go to a drive through and they've got masks and gloves and and it is. It has definitely created a different and different environment, um with what's going on. Well, part of me, even like you know, years down the road, if they're still wearing masks and gloves at restaurants like,

let's find they're handling food. It's probably safer and better. Anyways. Yeah, I don't have a problem if if, if the new normal is I gotta put on a mask when I go to the grocery store. Okay, I'm fine, Like I can. I can deal with that. That's not a big deal. I don't think if you told me I had to wear a mask in a restaurant and sit down and have a meal with friends or family and wear a mask and then and they, you know, shoot my food. Whatever, I won't go to restaurants. I'm just it's it's not

I'm not gonna go to a bar wearing a mask. Um, if I'm gonna go to a bar or a place you know, to to wear a mask, I'm gonna go rob the place. Like it's not, don't you know. I don't know why. I don't know how you guys feel, but I'm not going to a restaurant with a mask. So you told me I can't go without a mask, I'm just not gonna go. I'm not gonna be I'm

not gonna be an ass. And like these people that you see in these viral videos where They've never been told no before in their life, and they can't imagine somebody telling them not to sit in that boots because of social distancing. Deal with it, abide by the guidelines. But if the guideline is wearing mask in a restaurant, I'm not going. Yeah, I'm probably not gonna go. I'm all from take out at this point with a toddler, I don't want to go anywhere near a restaurant. Bellow

Girl thrones food everywhere. It's just uncomfortable. Imagine getting a table for ten people. You know you're right, and you in your eight kids, like, I don't know where do you go? Who got in first? That were so? Yeah? Troy Vincent spoke to Peter King a couple of interesting quotes, a couple of on a couple of fronts. Travis, what was that all about? Yeah? The first one during a conference call to talk to Tom, Peter King said, the rooming world changes. Um sounded like he said, the facts

are broken. We have a you know the facts star, we have a broken system. But um, he says, do I take it personal? Yes? I do. It's my responsibility as a professional athlete, as a man of color, as someone who bleeds the National Football League leads football. It's part of our responsibility to continue what we believe is right for our game. I'm one of the team members in this relay race. So he's clearly, clearly upset about it.

And and and you know, Troy, you worked with him really closely. Yeah, I've known Troy for a long time and you know, consider him a good friend. And this is I know, he he really cares about this. You look at his

you know, having played in the league. You know, was was the head of the NFL p A at one point than than an executive with the league first and player engagement and and now with football operations and uh and this is and being African American, this is a big deal for him and for him to say the system is broken, obviously, no one has been closer to it than him. And you have to look at the numbers and look at look at the minority coaching hires or front office hires in in in the history of

the NFL. And you don't, you know, you have it's it is broken. And so what is the solution? I don't. I don't know what the solution is. That's why they're trying different things and trying to have conversations. Draft compensation, you know, that was something they talked about if you hire a minority head coach and do you know you move up draft picks, that becomes a competitive thing. And also that got a lot of backlash, you know, you

know African American coaches and and former coaches. Marvel Lewis came out and said that that was you know that that wasn't something that that he would have been in favor of. So it is broken. What what are the solutions? You know, more minority owners, but that's not how many people have the money in their bank account to buy an NFL to maybe had a Rod and j Lo. They tried to buy the Mets recently and that that

fell through because they didn't have the money. Yeah, so this is it's an exclusive group right of people that can afford NFL franchises, and NFL franchises continue to where there isn't and and I don't think there's an NFL franchise um that is value less than a billion dollars. If there is, it's just under a billion dollars. And when you talk about the franchises like the Cowboys that are what five billion something ridiculous and so so again

very exclusive group. UM, it is a it's it's not a h. There are not a lot of minority owners across all of sports. And so what you know, how do you fix that? UM? People talk about litigation. You know, do do you do you have to sue? UM? This is you know, that is the courts, right, that's the great utilizer in this country at times. And it's not it's just not an easy topic. I I I don't know what the answer is. I think it's just more networking.

It's more you know, continuing the conversation and uh, and just trying to get you know, trying to get opportunities for minority coaches and if it's fellowships, if it's internships, if it's things like that that can help them get to a point. Because right now, when you look at the head coaches in the NFL, the majority I think it, UM have come from the offensive side of the ball. So you've you've either been a quarterbacks coach or you've

been an offensive coordinator. UM. So that and when you look at those positions currently now in the league, there's very few people of color in those positions and and so that's a problem. Right, So we're not doing anything to create a sustainable pipeline. Um if those positions are cotinue to be filled by white coaches and uh, and again I think that's where I think that's where Troy

is coming from. My question. Those meetings are all private, and why do you believe that those discussions were made public? And why is this information out there? Like who does

this benefit? Oh, well, that that that gets leaked, that that gets leaked, it's someone you know, and it it's just when when that when that type of stuff gets leaked, if somebody wants to put pressure on on the membership, on the ownership, and and so that somebody internally that is leading that information the NFL has you know, you create relationships with people in the media, people you trust and uh, and sometimes it's a benefit that there can

be a benefit to leaking information if you have people that you trust in the media. So that stuff gets leaked. There's stuff that gets leaked out of that office all the time. And it's just it's just part of doing business, right, what else? And but then kind of switching gears again, Troy talked to Peter King about p I review that was. There was some really interesting comments there. Yeah, we talked about last week. Hal, you know, it's not coming back.

It's a one and done type of rule. You said it all along, you said this is going to be the Duke rule as you called it, um as in basketball players going one and done. Nice, nice analogy. Thank you for explaining in tr that was yours though I wanted to know, but I appreciate you explaining it at this point. Yes. Anyway, So so he talked about the p I rule and he said, we failed. I'm first in line. I shared that with league officials. I failed. As the leader of that department. I failed. So a

lot of fails. So look the bottom line hashtag fail is there we allowed to say and we said this. I'm sure you could go back before the season and we talked about it. Right, what what was the problem. The problem was creating a rule for one play and pushing it through at the league meeting. When when the coaches at the league meeting part of the two thousand nineteen season, the coaches were thirty two oh for a

sky judge concept. Right, the competition committee meets, the coaches meet on Monday, um you know, or actually they meet on Sunday night, they decide thirty two oh there there for a sky Judge concept. Then Monday, the Competition Committee gets together and they end up with a p I proposal. And and so now we're we're now we're playing catch up, and we're trying to figure out all the unintended consequences

of creating that role. And we got to see it play out in prime time every week, and the ups and downs and the changing standards, and it was just never applied consistently. And it's a subjective call. And so you start with something that's subjective, that's gonna be hard to be consistent, and then you're all over the place during the during the season. Yeah, of course it was a failure. And uh and this this isn't you know, I don't want this to be an I told you so.

But the bottom line is we've always the competition. To me, that's why you crawl before you run, you know. To change it took years before the NFL implemented a two point try. It took years before the NFL move they tried from the two to the fifteen for the kid. You know, it doesn't happen, you know, overnight and that rule happened. You know, there was a lot of impetus and a lot of push leading up to that league meeting,

but it happened overnight. Why do you think they didn't do any kind of trials with it like they do with everything else and the priests And here's the deal, okay, And this will be a perfect segue to the next thing we're gonna talk about. They went into that lead meeting from a pr perspective saying, we have to do something.

We have to win the press conference in March. And when you're trying to win a press conference in March, that's not the best strategy to success in September, October, November, December, and January. Okay, they're trying to win. And that's what I worry a little bit about. We talk about the rules changes coming up, right, your favorite rule proposal? Right, the on site alternative now is starting to get some life.

It's starting to get back into the news. Right. You keep texting, You're like, oh, the onsite Alternatives back, it's back here it is, you know, it's so right? Why is it back? Okay, let's think about what's happening in the NFL right now. Okay, you've got p I review dies of brutal and ugly death after one year. Okay, you've got a minority coaching system, hiring system that is broken. So you need a positive you need something. You need to win. You need something to say, hey, look we're

being innovative. We're going in and we're gonna make this exciting. The on side kick is becoming increasingly hard to execute. Um, we need another opportunity for teams to come back create exciting finishes. And so again, we're trying to get a win. It's no longer March because of Corona. Now we're trying to get a win in May. And I just in I worry about the the unintended consequences of of This is a proposal that Philadelphia put forth, and I and

I and I know that coaching staff. Well, I know the people involved in this proposal, and I've worked with them, and I've seen the language, and I've looked at the language, and I've gave I've given them recommendations. But the bottom line is, now, when you start to think about okay, fourth and fifteen from the right, then okay, what happens with the clock? What happens if there's a foul, does the offense get to replay that down and try it again?

Or is it a one and done? What happens if there was a penalty on the on the touchdown that that the team wants to take on the kickoff? Does now fourth and fifteen from the twenty five? Does that penalty move you up or move you back? Does that make it a fourth and longer? Right? Think about this? Think I thought about that, right, you know, it's all of these things. Does the clock run because on a kickoff, the clock doesn't run until the ball is legally touched.

So on this play, are you going to run the clock and then if they get a first down you keep the clock running. We'll think about at the end of the game. If I've got three seconds, Okay, I've I just I just scored the go ahead touchdown with three seconds on the on the clock. Now I take my onside alternative rather than risk the kickoff, I take my onside alternative. I get the snap, I roll out to my right and throw the ball aside as I can out of bounds and run the three seconds off

the clock. So now it creates you create that opportunity there there's so many things that go into this that you have to vet out, and you have to continue to vet out. Now I'm not saying this is this is an overnight deal because last year Lebron Goes proposed something like this, and so you just you just have to continue to think about these potential you know, all the potential what if before you you vote something in and what I worry about about this because it's unique

because of Corona. Right, You're gonna have a league meeting and you're gonna have votes taking place with one person from every club, and you're not going to have the same conversation. You're not gonna have the same dialogue that you have in a normal league meeting, all right, because in a normal league meeting, you have two members from each club during those those voting sessions, and they're typically somebody from ownership and the head coach for the most

part when it's a football deal. And you'll get and I've been in the I've been in that room, and I've sat there in the front of the room and I've watched it all play out, and they'll rich McKay that the head of the competition committee will explain the rule proposal. UM I, as the head of officiating, we'll talk about some different things that that we felt were relevant and then that would be open up for discussion.

And you know, Mike Tomlin could get up and speak, or or John Harbor could get up or speak, or Steven Jones could get up and speak. That's not gonna happen on this call, right, this is gonna be for the most part, it's either going to be the actual owner or the team president and they're not going to have that discussion. The head coach is the one that's the well you know that's gonna understand it the most.

And uh, and so I just worry about that that we could end up with a rule change, UM and and again be dealing with the unintended consequences going forward because we need something positive because pr review and mine already hiring are are what they are. And you think, do you think they'll skip that trial again and instead of trying it in the preseason going straight in, we're doing this rule for a you know, this this vote, the onsete alternative. I would I would hope they put

it in for one year. You know, they put it up for a vote for one year and then uh, you know, and it'll you know, my gut tells me, Look, I don't know. I know there was some momentum coming in. I know the league office. There's people at the League office that want this to pass. So when that's the case, you usually get some legs. Um My gut tells me, I don't. I don't think it's gonna get twenty four, but it could be closed. Remember you need twenty four

yes votes out of thirty two to pass. So well, let me throw a Adam, and I want credit for it if it happens. And it's gonna sound ridiculous, but if you really think about it's a great idea implemented in E gaming because those kids find every way to manipulate anything in those games. If there's a way to manipulate the clock or a flag or whatever, they'll find

it out. So let's work with Madden. Let's work with e A and work with Madden to implement these things and then we can see all the unintended consequences play out on Madden. I can't tell you're being face you're serious, because I'm dead serious. Like it would work because now in the with the E sports, the games count like it matters. People are betting thousands of dollars on this stuff. Yeah, I think I'm all for it. Let's go, let's do it. That can be the training ground. Um, I think we

should try player safety rules in Madden. Then let's see. You know what what player safety we don't. We don't want those we don't want those shops to be unnecessary risk. We wanted, remember from virtual concussions in virtual a c l s. So I agree. My favorite my favorite video game injury was was it was NHL three. I think I think they might have taken the blood out in ninety four, but ninety three when you could hit the guy and then he'd fall on the ground and the

blood would just pool on the ice. Remember they did Swingers Swingers, Yeah, yeah, that was that the insane that That was a great scene in Swingers too, He's like, look at look at little little weights. I believed here for super fandom of ninety nine. So let's let's move on to some on the rule proposals. Yeah, so here here's one. Look, they're always right, we gotta get a player's safety rule change in this is this is probably the least impactful players safety rule change in a hundred years.

This this is they're giving the kick returner defensive the last pandemic. Sorry, right, yeah, exactly so So yeah, during the Spanish flu, the forward pass was was outlooked. But so they're giving a kick returner. So I'm a punt returner, right, and the rules said that I was protected under the defensive player rule. I couldn't be forcibly contact in the head or neck area, and you couldn't lower your head and initiate forcible contact with the helmet to any part

of my body. I was protected until I actually caught the ball. A receiver who's trying to catch a pass is protected until they catch the ball and have the ball long enough to protect themselves. So it's a little bit longer. So we're basically making the receiver the protection the receiver gets and giving that extending that to the kick returner. Well guess what. That's how it's been officiated for as long as I can remember, Right, for as

long as I can remember. If a kick returner caught the ball with two feet and then got blasted in the hair neck area, we had three flags down, all right, because that was a hit on a on a defenseless player. So we're just making how the rule has been applied. We're making the rule book basically be in ligne with that, so so not a significant change, but we'll create that player's safety. We're adding the player's safety. Still, we can get the onside alternative and we can get the kick

returner added to defenseless. We've got some positives that we can then we can put together, put that press release out, and we can win that press conference. So you know, because look, sky Judge isn't happening, right, that's not gonna be You might get a preseason experiment. There's two types, right, booth umpire um senior technical technical advisor to the referee,

the star um will probably have a preseason experiment. But guess what, when the game's count and there's a big past inference call missed or there's something else that a sky judge or a star or a booth umpire could help fix, the rules are gonna say that, no, that's not allowed, and and and so again we're going into the season two thousand and eighteen style, and we all know what happened in two thousand eighteen in the NFC Championship game. We ended up with pr review. It's like

we're going full circle. And sometimes I worry that that, you know, we sit there and we said we failed, we felt we failed, and then we do the same ship and somebody's got to step up and figure it out. And you know, I don't know, it's not me, but whatever, UM get a little fired up there. So Travis got

excited about Jason Whitlock. Now is I didn't see it, Travis, and I guess this was this on Speak for yourself talk about and Travis was like, oh my god, in it Travis voice that whenever Travis sends me a text message, I do the guy am I, Oh my god, this

is so cool. Jason Whitlock had a had a rule proposal, you know that would be so Travis, explain what Jason's idea was, or what you believe Jason was Jason's ide Yeah, So what I thought Jason's idea was inside two minutes, if the offense didn't gain a yard, the clock would stop. Then you know, this would I mean that victory O'Neil downs would essentially be uh no, you you couldn't run out the clock with it. And then you said you shot it down and I think it's a shooting it down.

Shooting it down. Okay, yeah, so it wasn't. But that's but that's that was the Arena League for how many years the Arena League was in existence. So it's not you're not you know, you're not. It's it's not slight spread. It's just it's most of these most of these rules have been tried in all these other leagues and then the league's disappeared. People like me who didn't watch the Arena Football League, I'm sorry, you know, I don't I don't remember that. But but you who is the rules guru.

That's why I come to you. These things give us stuff to talk about. But I'm glad that they're having the discussion and they're thinking of things to to kind of fix. You know, that was something we talked about

at the XFL. We went through, um we ultimately landed on the five second hold on place, you know, inside of two minutes, But we talked about that, you know, the Arena League where you had to you know, if you don't gain yardage, the clock is going to stop, and so it incentivizes teams to attempt to gain yardage. It eliminates the kneel down altogether, because there's just there's no there's no benefit to it. Um And and clock

rules are interesting. You you you want to the whole goal When you look at clock rules, right, it's too conserve plays in the critical juncture of the game. Because if you can conserve plays, then you get you give the offense that's behind the opportunity more plays, needs more opportunities to come back, and more opportunities to come back means closer games, more exciting finishes, and that's what that's what we would want. And so that's why I look

the onside alternative. I'm not opposed to the concept. I just think it's gimmicky. Um, I think it comes with a whole host of problems. And look, this isn't when you talk about players safety, nobody knows, nobody that there's no They have not vetted out all the data, the injury data to say that a fourth and fifteen play is more is more safe than an onside kick. Nobody knows. So it's just you can't sit there and say this is a player's safety change and and look at the

onside kick. The chances there. Look when you when your teams behind and they're lining up for an onside kick. Are you not? Do you not get excited? Does that? Is that not a play that that excites you? Hey? I know it's it's like it's like Joe back in the day when he saw the girl that was way out of his league, and you see Joe like go like go for it, like go up to her. We knew the chance was was minor, very little excited, but

we're excited for him, right, We're excited. He's got a less less than ten percent chance to make this happen, but we're excited. And then when the ten percent hits, it's the it's the greatest thing ever, Like it's it's amazing. But you know that's that's just me that that's just just how I think. It's like going to Vegas and think you're gonna win at the casino or something. Right,

Just stick with teams analogy. Thanks exactly. Well, I was just trying to say to the next segment, where about Vegas, Vegas, Vegas helping him back up? Yes, there you go, we'll do that after break all right, next on Good Calls, Vegas, Vegas, Travis, we'll talk to us all about since city. What's coming up next. All right, we're back on good calls. Before the break, Travis was all excited. He was telling us

about Vegas and Vegas is open up. I don't know if you know this about Travis, but he like he goes to Vegas like once every I don't know, six years goes. But when he goes, it's like balls out, like there's no stopping him. So we we started nicknaming him Travis Vegas Travels. Okay, VT, so VT, tell us what's happening with Vegas. Some of that's true. Some of that's from a past life about Vegas. Have think the last time I arrow was with my wife, we sayed

at the South Point. You guys probably never even heard of that. It's a family establishment only anyway anyway, travels like remember remember my trip to Vegas. Honey at the south Point and the buffet, how those those they had acoustic music. But the at the pool it was so nice, dollar beers, it was lovely. The Jimmy Buffett Band, the Tribute band. Oh my honey, we gotta go back. That sounds nice. It sounds really ten You're anniversary, We'll go back.

Joe is over there, get throwing up Rhino and alright, alright, so what is Vegas? And then let's get to the match. Anyways, boxing is are going to resume in June. They've they've set some dates for June nine, but no fans, No fans. Yeah, five fights at the MGM, No fans. So they're they're taking the h the same approach as the UFC, moving forward getting So does that mean the UFC, the UFC

can't be far behind back in Vegas? I mean, I'm sure they like, um, you know, having the control right there, have been having it in Orlando, but god, I would hope they'd want to get back to Vegas as soon as possible. Yeah, you think so. I mean that the fights were fine in Florida at this point. It's like if no fans can jackson that's right, not Orlando, Jacksonville. Yeah, if if no fans can be there, what what difference

does it make? Yeah? I guess you're right. Um, But Okay, the match, the Brady Michelson Manning Woods match, I watched. I didn't watching the beginning. I forgot it was on actually I was with the kids. And then I watched the last I guess like the last four or five holes. Um, it was fine. I guess I missed all like the funny stuff because the last four or five holes they were just playing golf like they were. I like the

pace they were going quickly draining. Um, you know, I thought it was like I thought it was well produced. Um it was interesting. I like Charles Barkley, you know, being on it though Justin Thomas was interesting as the on you know, the basically on the Corse reporter, uh, and just the interaction. But I mean it was fine. And I'm not a golf fan and it was fine. I enjoyed it. And you know, they were hitting good shots like Peyton and Brady didn't. I know, I guess

Brady kind of stunk it up early on. But yeah, but I guess you know, when it counted, they were they were fine, like they're they're good golfers, like they're you know, I don't. I don't golf, so I don't know, but they were. It was fine. I didn't you know, it wasn't the greatest thing, but I like people are, you know today, I feel like any any live sports um is like you remember the Eddie Murphy Remember the

Eddie Murphy bit. When I think it was raw when he talked about he talked about not having like you're not having set for a while, and then it's the best sex you've ever had. And he's like if somebody throws you, He's like, if you stop and then somebody throw you a cracker, you know, like, god, damn, that's the best tack I've had. In fact, that's how we are with live sports right now. Right it's like everything is, oh my god, remember the Nicholson Brady Love Live whatever.

That's why I think this last dance actually sucked and people just like it because of what's going on right now. We put that on the bed last week. The fall out though, with the last dance fall out, think about it, think about what's been happening. Pip Scottie Pippen his pissed. Horace Grant is pissed. He Scotty Barrell is pissed. All these Craig Hodges, all these former Bulls are pissed because how this this put They showed Jordan in this light.

They said that oh he was so you know, he was driving like he would put these guys in their place, and these guys are like, no, people would go back at him. But they didn't show any of that stuff, the pizza getting, you know, food poison, and they're saying that's not real. You know, like this whole thing, like stop Lebron. Lebron is better than Jordan's. That's what it's driven me towards. Jordan said, everyone's gonna think he was an asshole after watching the documentary. I think only his

former teammates think he's an asshole. I don't think anything differently of him, Like, yeah, it's just again, it is what it is. But you know, speaking of basketball, though, I'm just happy to report that one of my favorites, and Joe and I talked about it the week, and Patrick Ewing is out of the hospital. He did have he did have corona. He's out of the hospital. He's recovering and so hopefully, you know, everybody but special special recovery prayers to Patrick Ewing. That guy was. I still

feel bad that he couldn't. Oh, they just just win one. If they win one, if if starts doesn't go to for for whatever it was in two for seventeen against the Rockets, and yeah, alright, alright, we come get back with us, get back with us. You were in a good place. Come on, Okay, what what else is going on? MLB update, Travis, Let's get let's go through the majors other than other than football will be you have the facilities are starting open up for individual workouts. So that's

that's the step in the right direction. You could have all these guys back in their facilities by early June. But that's still gonna come down to that. That that's I think is still gonna be the biggest fight in terms of the revenue share, right. I think that's still the biggest hurdle obviously the health stuff. But players want their full salaries that they were guaranteed, and owners won half of the revenue, so there they have a ways to go. I feel like but the I didn't. I

did see. It wasn't interesting. I saw one report. Look that you could get players if players say I don't feel comfortable and I don't play the league's they won't stop them, at least baseball won't stop them, but they're not gonna get paid. So could you imagine like Mike Trout sitting out because he doesn't feel comfortable and then not getting paid but the Angels continue to play like that would be insane? Like that, would you just have like minor league players come up and players I don't

you have you have to feel the roster. I don't know, you have such a huge impact on the sports gaming world. Two Like that would just be enormous. It would be yeah, because then you think, yeah, it would it would be pretty instanct. It's betters would lose it. Betters would lose it if they're taking the season total overs or hey

I got this team to win that. I mean, it would just that's kind of unintended consequences team you when you bet you take those risks, right, I mean injuries always happened with those types of things too, but we all kind of get that. But this you take, you take the season over, and then Mike, if you take the season ohe from the Angels and Mike Trout blows an a C l in in in the third week of the season, guess what that's that's we we know

that as betters. But if Mike trusts, you know, I don't want to play because I'm scared I'm gonna get it flew COVID night team flew, that would really be that would that would really upset me. The thing that's great is if you bring up these minor leagu guys who maybe never got a chance because they're sitting behind Mike Trout and they're never gonna get a chance to play. Those guys are gonna come out through something that here's

the Travis. Travis, that the motivational speaker. That that Jim Nelson, who's sitting who's sitting in the Angels minor league waiting minor league organization, who's been sitting behind Mike Trout, who will continue to sit behind Mike Trout until Mike Trout retires. Um is now going to get his chance and he's going to be all world. He's gonna get traded. That he's gonna get traded to another team. You think about if Drew Bledsoe would have never got hurt. We couldn't

have not been watching Tom Brady. Guess who Guess who was at the game as the replay official when Drew Bledsoe did get hurt. Who was that be? This guy? The start of the Brady the start of the Brady error was right in line with the start of the Blandino error. Look what we both accomplished. Congratulations, I'm in Arizona. With Joe on Sunday and Brady making millions of dollars playing golf with Tiger Woods. I don't think when they donated every it made, you actually won that day. What's

that you actually won that day? On that day? Kids have a great time on the water, fantastic. I have good days. I can't complain. I've had a good I've had a good run. I'm happy. All right, let's go NHL. I like this they actually approved something. Yeah, last week they approved on let's see here on their sorry I lost my spot here. Last week they approved the NFL or so the NHL conference bad. You're reading comprehension problems, Travis.

Is there something you're not telling us? Because sometimes sometimes I think, here's what I think. Sometimes I think you were a special needs child and you worked your way up to That's why, that's why he's such a positive guy. You overcame, but every once in a while you slip back because you're like you're squinting, You're like getting real close to the screen. Like even when we were doing the readings, we were doing the auditions, it was like

you're acting wasn't great, but you're reading was awful. Like what I can't see very well. I need to get glasses and it's a problem. There you go. Alright, So so NHL right approved to twenty four team conference based playoff format. The future negotiations are gonna come on teams. Uh, they're now open the facilities to small groups right in early June. June max is six players, that's that's right.

And this twenty four team formats kind of cool because it gives the four um leaders in each each division to buy and then it'll be a sixteen game or sixteen team playoff with five teams are seriously five Yes, it's weird. We gotta get this is I'm gonna get

like some remedial reading, you know classes. We're gonna we're gonna start I don't know what before when you put your inn kids to bed and your wife kiss your wife tonight, then you're not gonna do a zoom and I'm gonna read to you, okay, and we're gonna go through. We're gonna start it like a you know, Lucas in third grade. He's like, you know, it's like an H or they do letters now, So we'll start you on like an H and then we'll work our way up.

I might need to start earlier than that, all right, And then what the heck is going on with the NBA? Are we gonna see NBA basketball? It's hard to say. It's hard to say. The NBA dumb forever. I can't imagine they're gonna be done. No, there's there's no official update, but they may have, Like there's a report saying there could be a sixteen see playoff format, which which would be cool because then they would get rid of the the the conferences and they were just factoring the one

through sixteen throughout the entire NBA. He was the struggle just to get that out. It was here, have you been drinking? Have he had a glass of wine today? He told me already? Did you like either that? Or you? Are you having a stroke? Should we should we call nine one one? I I would laugh with you guys, but I'm not sure what's going on. I think he I think you're indep he Okay, sob a no official,

no official update, but they've been talking about sixteen. You know, I heard that Michael Jordan was going to bring the league back. He was gonna suit up so that the rest of the league would come back. Into there you go. We wanted was more Jordan's that's that's I'm um, I'm

with Karl Malone on this. When I saw I saw an interview with Karl Malone, you know, he declined to be a part of the Last Dance and then somebody was interviewing him and they were like, um, when you when you hear the words Michael Jordan, what do you think of? And he's like, Michael Jordan's what, Like what enough? Jordan? Like, you know, like I don't think I'm not special? And I'm like, damn right, carl One. Thing that was interesting about that show. I know we're passing now, but Carl

Malone was huge. He was a giant nude. When you watch him in that show and kind of compare every whales, he was a monster. Carl Malone was a beast. Look, the bottom line is Michael Jordan dominated in an era. If he would have been if he would have been one hour earlier, he would not have dominated. Bottom line a Right, Look, they lost, they got swept by the Celtics two years in a row. Right, they lost three out of four to the Pistons. They never beat the

showtime Lakers. End the story move on. All right, um, college football SEC. Are we gonna see you know, are we gonna see SEC and and and Big Ten and these big conferences UM playing football without uh you know, some of these smaller conferences having the ability to get back and get back on campus. You know, I know what, Travis. The SEC is resuming voluntary student athletes sometime in June and eight is what they've approved at this point. So

you could see it. Yeah, I mean I think I think certainly, depending on the states, I think activities might resume. I just don't. I can't envision college football coming back piecemeal. I just don't. I don't see that. I can see certain universities maybe if if certain universities are not having UM kids on campus and they can't play, But I can't see you know, a whole conference UM not being able to play football and college football, you know, continuing

that way. So we'll see and then and then very importantly, the the CPBL or or Chinese Professional Baseball League. Your your rocket tud monkeys lost two in a row, Travis. Maybe, like my reading skills, that's slipping, you know, like they they're they're falling apart. Maybe you know, they're still they still got they still got a four game lead in the win column. But losing two in a row, you know,

that's I think. I think it's time to panic. I think the Rockett Monkeys might be might be in trouble to fall from grace and nobody wanted to see, right, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm not sure how many I didn't think much about CPBL until Corona. But how many games do they play? And how how many they have left? Do you know? Do I need to go back to my power point from three weeks ago? I can't remember. My reading comprehension is no good. It's I think it's like an eight game season. Um. God,

that could be that. That that's just from membery. I don't have it up. Um. And then, lastly, before we take a break, Nationals reveal their World Series rings. Did you see did you see the design? Let me read it? Well, I saw the story, so I pulled up what I believe is the ring. Okay, so do you want to describe it? Travils? So you're feeling okay, I'm not really I'm not really the uh oh wow, oh now I'm looking at it. It's got baby shark on the inside.

What's that okay? So here here you go that that's what that's okay. So you have thank you, so so you have this is this is the details of the ring. So it has the cursive w logo. Logo has thirty rubies, which represents the thirty runs that they scored in their four World Series game victories over the asterisk. Okay, that's cool. Cool. Surrounding the Nationals logo is a ring of thirty two sapphires, which is some total of the team's two thousand, nineteen

walk off wins, shutout wins, longest winning streak, and postseason rounds. Okay, alright cool. Additional hundred eight diamonds symbolizing the team's a hundred and five regular season and postseason wins, plus one for the World Series championship and two more in a nod to the franchise's history, the exposed and the previous version of the Washington Nationals Okay great, There are twelve rouviees on each end, the team's total number of postseason wins. Great.

The ring also depicts some of Washington, DC's most iconic landmarks, with the Roman numerals M m VT placed within the Capitol Building to represent the year two thousand six that the Learner family purchased the franchise. Awesome words Fight Finished or feature prominently in diamonds, which was something um that they had. The kind of a team motto stay in the fight um appearing along the ring palm is the

team's mantra, go one go one zero every day. But the interior of the ring includes a symbol of a shark holding the Commissioner's Trophy and honor of outfielder Gerardo pires walk up song, Baby Shark? What the flump is that baby? Not a lot of stuff going on in those rings? Baby shark? I know, give it homage, just something with the expose you couldn't do. The baby shark is part of your your ring, but at least they put it on the inside of the rings so you

don't have to look at it. Um. But it's the baby that's bad. Like that that song so annoying. I will not will not let my daughter listen to it. She does, she stopped asking for because I'm like, no, you're not listening to that's that's it's ridiculous. You won't have kids that read like I do. Let them listen to baby Shark. Yeah, hopefully you Hopefully your wife is the one teaching your kids, because I don't want a couple of you literally illiterate kids like you are. All right,

let's go to Let's go to break. When we come down. When we come back, we'll talk the three second rule dead after the pandemic next on Good Calls. All right, we're back on Good Calls. Have a serious, serious supportant question. Um where this is a rules podcast. I'm a rules guy. I want to ask you, guys, after the pandemic, after everything that that's happened, when this is all said and done, is the three second rule over? Are you sure it's not the five second p I review? Is it dead?

Isn't it the five second rule? Dem? You're talking about the one you drop you dropped food on the floor. It's some people say five. If you look at the Araban dictionary, it's three. I've used both. Let's just let's just call it the three second rules for purposes. I'm just making sure that you're the three seconds in the key that Patrick you want used to always no no no,

no, no no, no no. We're not talking about that. Okay, But but is the concept dead not to me, not to mean certain in there's certain places if you drop something, you're not going to pick it up. But that that's the rule. Right. You can look at the rule book. The rule book is made up of sections, articles, and in each article you could have notes, you could have

um exceptions. There's exceptions, right if if if you're at a gas station bathroom, right, the three second rule doesn't whatever hits the floor, it's all done, right, And if you do that in any public bathroom, you're disgusting and you probably I don't know, you probably shouldn't. I don't even know. I don't even know what what you should do, I shouldn't do. But a normal you know, you're at work or you're at home, and it hits the floor?

Are is any are you not? Are you not adhering to the three second rule because of you're worried about now the germs that could cause. So I think what's going to happen is I think all of these rules are going to have this very strange path to becoming live again. Just for instance, we all we all hung out this weekend, a bunch of us, and I know you know before pre COVID, you see you know one of our friends. Hey, what's up? You give a hug? Now? People are like, I don't know really what to do?

Are you cool with me hugging you? Are we doing the elbow bump? What are we doing? And I think that all those types of rules are going to kind of people are going to take or that the end of the Michaelson deal the match. Did you see them? They didn't know what to do. It was like it was like a fist bump elbow nobody knows what they're doing kind of thing. I just going for the hugs,

growing deal. Just I'm fine, So I you know, giving you a big hug, Travis, I have it really, so as long as it's been as long as it's been two weeks since he hung out with Joe, he seems to Travis, Joe has his own role. So here's three second rules. Not dead, Travis. Here's a funny story from from the weekend. We were all sitting on the back of our buddies porch and he's got the Hey Google thing and somebody said, Hey Google, who was Dean Blandino? And it says Dean Blandino is the x XFL had

of officiating. We said that was the first thing that came up, the first thing that came up. And then and then we were we all started laughing because it didn't say anything about the NFL, and then we redid it, and then it actually did say and the former that's the most recent thing that's happened to me, the the and the X head of officiating for the XFL. So UM, I was really podcast would have been cool, but Joe was Joe was shut down. Joe has Joe's like competitive guy, right.

And there was these younger kids, these kids that are you know, in their twenties or even younger. One kid was going to Arizona State to play football in and Joe, you know, Joe thinks he could be in the NFL tight end if you were four inches taller. So Joe, of course um decided that he was gonna run some routes and and and he said this kid couldn't stop him.

I didn't see it. I just heard about it. But Joe thinks it was clearly defensive holding or illegal contact and that's why he didn't catch the pass without question. And it was a terrible pass. Okay, So so Joe's like the diva receiver that because he didn't catch the pass. It was the quarterbacks fall and it was the officials. First of all, the past was nobody would have caught the past. Secondly, the dude shoved me down about eight yards downfield, like shove. This guy was, I was. He

was so big, Travis. I was calling him fake rock. He was all tall and buff and still I was to get I went right past him and then he shoved me down. I don't like. I didn't see. There was a there was a controversy. Joe cheated. We what's the name of that game? Joe? Which game? The frisbee game the first beginning. I don't know the name of it. It's I think it does have a name, but I don't know. If you throw you throw a frisbee at a PBC, it's some Travis. You would love it because

it's some super white people. Ship you get over that. I do. I do. I like the game. But Joe and and um, how did I cheat? This is you put too much water in the camp? Oh my god, you're really going there. So it's like two PVC pipes. You put home pipe in the in the water in the sand, and you put a beer can on top of the PBC pipe. You put some water in it

so it could wind doesn't blow it over. And you're like, I don't know, fifteen feet apart apart, and you have two people on each team and of a frisbee and you played one and you throw that. You have to have a can in your hand, you know, any kind of beverage can um and you throw the frisbee and you have to knock the other teams can off into the water. You can hit the pipe or you can hit the can itself. The other team has to catch

your frisbee if it doesn't hit the pipe. With the can, you can catch the can out of the air before it hits the water. And the way you score points is the team doesn't catch the frisbee. That's one. You hit the pipe and the can hits the water. That's two. You hit the can and it hits the water. That's three. And you played the twenty one sounds fun? You know it is fun. And who's in your team, Jail, I

forget it was you. Yeah. So they they basically we beat them the first game and they were all upset, and then they beat us the first game and they were like they were beating everybody and they were the champs and blah blah blah. And then me and this guy Ed came in like I've played the game once in my life, and we came in and just dominated them, like beat them like bad, and so Joe is all upset.

And then we have the rematch and they won, but they cheated because they filled their can up with so much water that even if you hit the pipe, it wasn't falling. Sounds pretty sketchy. There's actually there that's a judgment call. There's not like an actual percentage of thechnic can be full. And by the way, you guys, we smoked you guys. It wouldn't even you could have put no. No, it was a good game. There was some high level stuff going on. It was a high level game. I

will give you that. You you played that game, well, I'd love to know what it's called. I'll get the name for you. And I think we might maybe we should have Dean right, like an official rule book for that game. I think that that might not be a bad idea. Come up with a name and I write the rules. Do it. I want to play. And then I'm hearing about that game. I guarantee I'll beat both of you at it. Oh gosh, it is it is

a game. I think Travis would He's like I said, it's a it's it's it's a white it's a very white game when Travis likes white people stuff. But but Travis wouldn't make it because you're in the sun and he would be sun burned fifteen minutes in the game with that. No, he definitely, I would have sunscreen or layers on. Travis would need to write, he would need the right the right gear, long sleeve, rash guard. Yes, see him he hit water, he'd be in a Yeah, he'd be in an exactly all right, So um as

suits are in right now? Anything good you guys are watching? I watched that. I watched love Birds the other night on Netflix. It's a it's a new movie out that he was supposed to go to theaters, and I'm glad it didn't go to theaters because I would have been disappointed if I had to pay money for it. It was entertaining a bit. But who's in it? What's it's that? That dude from Don Blanket on the name Silicon Valley. The is he the Indian guy. Oh yeah, what's his name?

He's in there, he's great. And then there's a there's a black comedian, she's in I can't remember her name. She was good too, But this is this Travis. I mean, you learn somebody's name. Why did you just you just nicked the you know, the Indian guy and then this black comedian and you know who's next is Asian chick? Like what, Travis? What are you doing? I can't remember

their names that I'm sorry I could. Unbelievable. You know what I've been watching Dean is um It's detail on ESPN plus Kobe Bryant created it or whatever, and he started with basketball. They got Daniel Cormier and they're breaking down different fighters. Super interesting, really cool to watch if you're a fight fan, can you me? It's really smart?

He obviously you know he's he does commentary. He did it when we when he was with us at Fox Sports and now ESPN and and does it um UFC fights and uh yeah, I'll check it out just in case. You know, Travis, Daniel Cormy is the big black dude that fights and beats people up. Just so you know, that's how Travis would be to know. I know it's Guy's I know it's guy. You're talking about Travis. Unbelievable. All right, um, let's let's go to brain of blend.

You know, worst times to sneeze, worst times to sneeze? Now, okay, anytime? Now? Thought that was appropriate? Yeah? Appropriately? So I'm not thinking about that yet, sneezing, but think about Okay, so I was brushing my teeth and I sneeze. Does that ever happen to you? No? When you little time, it's it's horrible. You spray toothpaste all over the mirror. It's awful. So it got me thinking, like, what are some other times?

What are some other bad times to sneeze? When you are first someone going in for first kiss, it's a good one. You're eating, like in the middle of a chew or a bite. What would be bad food to sneeze? Soup would be bad, you know, you know, would really be bad bad foods It seems to be um like sushi because you have rice and raw fish just file over the place, and possibly some sabbi and ginger depending on your style. That would be bad and the and

the sabi would make you sneeze. What what else it would be another bad time to sneeze during I guess right. Number one answer? Is that going to be the thing? Now when everybody does get back and somebody's sneezes and you don't like people, you're gonna have to be so over the top when you cover like you're literally gonna have to have like throw up a swinge tream when you sneeze. Right, when you're around people and you sneeze, are you gonna feel comfortable and not doing going over

the top? Imagine being in coach, in the middle of seat, in the middle seat after this and sneeze. How much you like this? That's the question? Is the middle seat dead? Forget about the five second one? Was the middle seat gone? I don't know. I don't know. I can't see airlines giving up those seats. I look for a flight today, the regularly five hundred bucks. What's going on? I thought they're supposed to be cheap for a flight, Yeah, Costa Rica?

Oh god? Yeah? Any other bad times to sneeze? Come on? How I think we're all thinking it? Yeah? He said, Yeah, he said during sex, which could bring us to our other story of that we had talked about this week. On text message about the sex dolls. Oh, I thought you were talking about the text message the other text message that we got that we read this weekend. I don't know what happened. They put blow up dolls in

the stands of the Korean baseball game. Yeah, it's it's it's crazy like And the reason they got in trouble for is because it's not a spot, it's not a sanctioned sponsor, so they were they were saying the name the names of the They had signs with the names of the dolls, So that's why they got in trouble. They probably would have got the names like like the company, you know, the company made the company who made them.

This is Cinnamon up here, and this is Veronica and this is what so the company, So they like, I get it. Look, where are you going to get fake people where you can get a lot of fake people on short notice? Mm hmm right, it seems logical to me. Just just don't promote them, I guess I just don't promote them, don't put them. Did they put them in like weird poses or were they just like normal fans?

They were just normal fans. I can understand if they had like you know, legs behind their back and stuff like that. You can get like manikins, but blow up dolls are probably cheaper. That's what I said. Where you gonna get cheap fake people on the quick blow up dolls? Boom. It was a great idea for a while, right. You know, you know there are people that have used blow up dolls and t U V H O V lane. You

know that's happened. You know what I did, Well, I didn't use a blow doll, but I put a baby seat and then I took a like a you know, a child doll, put it in the car seat. Yeah. Yeah, let's go speeding down. But now that I have a Tesla, I don't really need that need that anymore. I got

the stickers. Wow, we haven't talked about the Tesla and so long I feel like the missing because Elon Musk like leaving, isn't he isn't he moving everything to exists or something Texas And there's one other um one other place. He's looking at two places. But I might actually might be selling the Tesla. So anybody out there wants a Tesla, it's some lucky there's some lucky person out there in the world. I'll give you. It's gonna get Joe Madrid's

Tesla's Travis sells, Travis. I've been thinking about geting a car, and I'll put my range Rover tires on it. It's already got tired. Do it, bronze the asking price, whatever the payoff is, old man, Well we're got a deal. We got a deal off line. I'll broke with the deal right. This has been good calls for Dean Landino. Please follow me on Twitter at Dean Blandino and Instagram at Dean dot Blandino. Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter, Apples podcast I'm Sure to Radar podcast and Yeah Radio

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