Ep 35 -Remembering Don Shula, UFC 249 breakdown with Shane Fazen, and we settle the best #34 debate.

Good to see you. Good to see you. Always like the yard and the backdrop, always looking very very comfortable there. And then Joe Madrid. Joe, who's stressed not to mention the fact that we're in quarantine, and he's a very social guy. He's very upset about the audio quality of the podcast recently and feels like we have much better quality when we're together in the same room, but unfortunately we can't do that. Joe, what's up? This is true? I just I set a high standard for myself. Yes,

all of us. You sound great, Joe, you sound amazing. Think you do sound amazing. Let's let's get started, um, so let's talk a little bit news. So on Monday, uh NFL great Don Shula passed away. When you think, I believe he was ninety nine years old, And when you talk about just icons of the sport, Don Shula

immediately comes to mind. You think about his career and obviously the winning is coach in NFL history, the only coach to have a perfect a perfect season in the super Bowl era in the nineteen seventy two Dolphins, and and looking at his career, he coached thirty three years in the NFL, one one to a super Bowl and one a championship in NFL Championship before the super Bowl came into existence. But in thirty three seasons. Guess how many losing records losing seasons Don Hula had already three?

Take a guess first six, Travis, It's it's I want to say three, but it might even be less than that. I'm gonna say ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna say three, but I have a feeling it might even be the last. I think it might be one. So it's actually two two using seasons in thirty three. And when you think about that, you think about who who many considered the greatest coach in NFL history, who's obviously still coaching, Bill Belichick.

Bill has coached twenty eight years, and in comparison, Bill has had four losing seasons in twenty eight Now all of those were with Cleveland, four out of five years. But still, when you think about the longevity and the success that Coachula had, it's it's just unparalleled. And and also many people don't know this, but Don Shula was was a big part of the NFL's Competition Committee for a long long time, and for many years he chaired

that committee. He was involved in rules changes and shaping the game during a time when the game when you think about the sixties and seventies into the eighties, I mean that was the time when the NFL really started to grow in popularity, and a lot of it was the rules changes you think about illegal contact that opened up the passing game, that made the NFL what it is today, and Don Shula was a big, big part

of that. So not only his contributions were as the coach of you know, both the Colts and the Dolphins, but also as an executive working with the Competition Committee. And one of the things I remember, I never had the pleasure of meeting him. I had seen him at different events, but never had a chance to talk to him.

But I remember the first year Adam Gaze got the job in Miami and he was the head coach for the Dolphins, and I went and in the spring we would go and visit all the coaching staffs and go

over points of emphasis and rules changes. And I remember sitting in in Gaye's office, which obviously was coach who was all off was um at one point prior to that, and I noticed I was sitting in a chair in front of his desk, and Gates was like so much higher up, like he was like legitimately, not a little, it was like noticeable, like almost like on a throne. And I was like, dude, what why are you so high? Like what what's the deal? And he said, that's that's

the way Coachula wanted it. That chair. He wanted to be higher than everybody when they came into his office. He had that chair and that was they and you weren't going to take it out of Coachula's office. So Gates was like, this is the chair I'm sitting in and uh. And so that was the kind of funny story,

interesting story that I had about about Coachula. But again, you know, honestly, one of the one of the amazing people in the NFL and obviously contributed a lot to the game and obviously well his thoughts and prayers out to his family, UM and UH and everything everybody that was close to him. UM. I definitely talked about say, we definitely talked about Mount Rushmore's of of sports figures and he's wanted the coaching in the NFL. Yeah, I'm

the whole Mount Rushmore thing. Like it's it's all like Mount Rushmore of this. I get it. Like I get it. There's four paces, you can only have four. But how many of us who would be on the Mount Rushmore of this podcast? Well, yes, we're all in. So we're all in by the four that's not great, you know.

The NFL not speaking of the NFL, the schedule is will be announced, I believe on Thursday, and uh, and so a lot of things some unknowns about the schedule, but one thing we do know is the NFL has already announced that there will be no international games on the schedule and UH. And that's obviously due to the COVID nineteen and everything that's happening, um in the country and around the world. And I think that makes sense. But the schedule is going to have I think there's

gonna be some flexibility in the schedule. So I'm interested to see how what it looks like and UH, and how they can they can open it up because you know, they're talking about everything from pushing the season back to uh, you know, an October start, potentially playing on saturdays. You know, Travis, you had mentioned that to me during the week that you know, if college football gets pushed back or or potentially moved or canceled, than than the NFL would consider

playing on Saturdays and UH. And so I'm interested to see how the schedule, whether what it's gonna look like going forward. Um, this week that will be that will be released. Yeah, let's change gears. Let's talk a little bit about the NFL league office and UH and some of the news that came out there. Dean, I know you have a lot of friends. Are you still talk to I have friends and still work at NFL network

furloughs and pay cuts. You probably have more information on that. Yeah, I mean that's the reality of the situation today, right. And it was obviously going to have MLB in an NHL and NBA have already been impacted because they've they've they're missing games. Now, the NFL hasn't missed any games yet,

so it's somewhat of a surprise. And I think the people that I talked to and some NFL employees are are pretty upset right now, and understandably so when you think about the NFL hasn't missed a game yet, and they and they haven't. I don't know all the economics, certainly, but it would appear on the surface that they haven't lost any revenue yet. That's not to say that they won't and that the draft was awesome this year exactly

the draft. They're being proactive, I get it, but it just you think about the timing, and this is what people are upset about. Free agency went off without a hitch. Team spent a lot of money, you know, hundreds of millions of billion dollars in players salaries. The draft went

off two rave reviews, like you said, record ratings. It was different, it was unique, and a lot of people put a lot of time and effort into that to make it go um without a hitch, and they had to plan in like a month and a half essentially, absolutely,

and when you think about the draft going off. You know it probably again I don't know all the details, but it probably cost less to put the draft on this year because you're not flying people around, You're not you don't have event costs exactly exact constructions going so so from a from a cost perspective, it's it's less. And so now you have all these people working so hard to make this happen. And then a couple of days later after the draft, these announcements hit that they're

gonna there's gonna be salary cuts. Um, there's gonna be furloughs. And I think one thing that people are really upset about is the pension reduction. Now, the NFL has a they contribute fifteen percent of an employee's annual compensation to their pension every year. That's a great perp Not a lot of companies do that, and the NFL now is reducing that from fifteen percent to ten percent. And people are piste off about that because that's permanent. This this

current situation is not permanent. It's temporary, and the NFL is on the verge in two years of signing what will be the most lucrative TV deals and if not, North American sports, in all sports across the world, and to make that permanent change. People don't understand why. And I get it from that perspective. I get it from the NFL's perspective. We have to be proactive, and we may lose revenue if we push back the season, if

we don't have fans. But you have a lot of people in the NFL office that put in a lot of work and uh and they feel like that that this is how they were repaid, and morale is not very high right now. Look, it's reality. It's not just the NFL office right down right now. We're all stuck at home. We're all exactly, We're all stuck at home. All of our lives have changed drastically, except for traffic

trass really hasn't changed that drastic. But speaking of the pension, mine took a huge hit obviously because of the stock market. So I would be pissed if I was at the league office, like, Okay, now, it took a huge cut because of the stock market, and then on top of that, you're gonna take the amount that you're putting into it. Yeah, i'd because you know what, you should just be happy that you have a pension because most of us normal people, we don't have pensions. It's it is, it's just the

reality situation. But hopefully, hopefully, hopefully we're coming out of this. So let's switch here, is Travis, what's happening in terms of sports? UM, what's coming up you know in the near future. Do you want to talk about that or do you want to talk about the newsom announcement today that like on Monday, that was the one that was was pretty big here in California. So they were going to move into phase two of the of the reopening, which which I don't know if you saw that story

in that I did. I saw the story. But what are what what in terms of phase two? Look get into a little more detail in terms of what does that mean. It's it's reopening lower risk workplaces including non essential manufacturing, toys, furniture, clothing, et cetera, UM schools, which I thought they were gonna be closed all year. So I'm interested to see, UM when when later in the week,

when that comes out, what things are gonna do? Child care facilities are possibly going to open in the in the stage to re tell businesses for curbs I pick up, which I think a lot we're already doing. Yeah, so and then offices where working remotely as I possible, um, but can be modified to make the environment safer for employees. So those are some of the things that we're listed in the article that I read, and more details we're

gonna come out. Are gonna come out on Thursday, UM and possibly on Friday as well, when when Newsom holds another press conference. People are starting to lose it, like people are gonna start writing if they don't start opening stuff up because people were just retiring of it. Sure. I mean, you guys saw the videos of all the people up in Sacramento and and police barricades keeping them

away from the Capitol building. It's it's people are upset and and so so I think he was feeling a lot of pressure from from people and it potentially probably the White House on top of that. Well, I think the reality is that we talked about it, and look, I want to preface this by saying nobody I don't want to see people, certainly people that are sick, people that are dying. It's awful, it's a tragedy, But at what point do we decide, you know, the quarantine and

the social distancing, what's the collateral damage? You know, we have kids that aren't in school. We have kids that and you have kids. Think about kids in lower income and in higher risk neighborhoods that, Okay, now we're not in school, we're cooped up in whether it's an apartment or whatever. What are they doing? What are they doing? Are they now going to get into some stuff that they wouldn't have gotten into otherwise because they'd be in school,

And maybe it just puts such a pressure. And what's your school programs? Right? The after school programs. They're talking about eliminating after school programs in in in my school district, which is Santa Monica and Malibu, which is a very very affluent community. And if they're eliminating they're talking about eliminating after school programs here for I imagine, imagine yeah for good and imagine what they're talking about in the

same communities without the resources that they have here. So so again, we've got to just kind of manage this. And I understand that people are you know, we need to protect people that are compromised and and have you know, the immune systems that won't be able to handle this and I'm not I'm not an expert. I'm not a doctor. I don't understand all the medical science. But like you said, this, what are the long term effects to us keeping things

shut down? Kids not in school, and the economy not working. Um, we just got to figure it out. Yeah, it's definitely gotta figure it out. But it is some good news too though. So if if they feel that that we're able to get out and start start living our lives a little bit more normal, then that's that's good because that means other things that grow open. So, like you mentioned before, we have other things that are gonna be

opening up. Some of the sports that are gonna be Hey, they do they happen to mention if they're opening up casinos? I haven't seen. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that either. Imagine what the casinos are losing on a daily basis. Nuts they do say Gym's right. Did they see Jim's opening? Um, I have not seen that. I had heard in a couple of states Jim's we're going to open. I don't know if that's in California. Jim's

are interesting. Jim's are very interesting because I don't see I mean personally, I wouldn't have a problem, but I think a lot of people would be hesitant to go to a gym using equipment you talk about how this virus works and then like touching things. Um, it would be I know a lot of people. Jim's would probably probably be a great time to go to a gym because there wouldn't be a lot of people there. Um, But you know, I do I do think a lot of people even if Jim's do open, you're gonna see

less people there than would normally go. Yeah, good, well you guys are more jim guys. I haven't been in a gym in years, so I I don't know. Really, it doesn't really offend me. Um, but do you if you guys were able to go right now, would you be going. I think Joe would definitely be going. Yeah,

I go to Jim I would I would go. And obviously, you know, I would imagine there would have to be there's probably gonna be guidelines in place for a gym to open that they're gonna have to, you know, certain rules, and they'll keep the equipment clean. Uh and who knows you gotta you know, people wiping it down after every after every usage. But I would imagine there would be restrictions and guidelines in place in terms of a number of people that could even be in there at one time.

And uh, and maybe it's and maybe it's a schedule. Maybe you have to sign up. You know, you go online and you say okay, and and there's a max of thirty people that can be at the gym between these hours and you have to go online and sign up. Who knows that's going to be a ship show. Like, it's gonna be real interesting to see how this plays out, because that's insane they have that. They have that at one of my gym's. That's like, you gotta sign up for this class, and it's like, I don't like to

sign up for classes. I just want to go. And you can't get into this this class unless you just you can't just show up out eleven. You've got had to sign it like two days before. And that's just not my style, it's not your All right, let's go to break. When we come back, we're gonna talk a little more about the UFC. We're bringing our friend, friend of the show, Friend of good calls Mr Shane Phasing. Next. All right, welcome, back to good calls. Excited. We're not

we're no longer calling him a guest. Okay, he's not a guest. He's been on. This will be his second time. He's a friend of the show. He's a friend of ours. Mr Shane phasing from Fight Tips, fain shame? What's up? Am I a regular? Can we use that word? You're a regular? Yes, you are a regular. Now he may be on the Mount Rushmore of the show now because now you're the fourth person. We were looking for a fourth person for the Mount Rushmore and you're at him

and Scott are gonna have to duke it out. Oh that's right, that's right. I don't know the Scott and Shane make it one of YouTube Joe and trying after the you know what, after earlier performance, I'm gonna have to take old Travis out of the equation. Sorry, bro? Why am I alt that hair? That's why? Al right? Whatever? So Shane, how are you so? Obviously you've got an extremely successful YouTube channel Fight Tips. Um, you've been doing this for a long time. How have you in terms

of social distancing and quarantine? Has it changed what you've been doing? What have you added? And uh and kind of what what's new with you right now now? To be honest, I'm pretty fortunate. Um, My wife and I already home bodies and we work from home. Um, we both work on fight tips, so it's not much a change for us. Um. The one thing that has changed is the inability to go to gyms and train with

teammates and partners and that kind of thing. And a lot of my buddies that own gems it's a shane man, It's it's really sad. But a lot of them are being forced to shut down at this point. It's been a couple of months of no income. And yeah, even just like the people that I follow on Instagram, it's like one day after another, just people are like, we have unfortunate news that Jim is shutting down. We're selling all of our equipment. Send us a message if you

want to buy anything. And it it sucks, man, it really does. But like I said, we're fortunate, we're doing well, and we're doing everything we can to help help other people out. But there's only so much that we can do, YEA. So we're grateful, We're we're saying optimistic, we're counting our blessings, but yeah, strange times, you know it is. And I just who sent me? Somebody sent me the text that Gold's Gym filed for banks for bankruptcy, That Gold's gym.

And when you think about Gold's Gym, I mean, growing up, just the kind of that name, it was kind of iconic. You think that that Gold's Gym wouldn't be around anymore. Um, it's just crazy. And like you said, Seane, we were just talking about it before the break. Even when the gym's open up, you know, we don't think that people are just gonna rush to Jim's. There's gonna be some people that just are gonna stay away just because of what happened. You know, the contact you come into other

people with equipment. So even then, even as it opens up, it's gonna take a while for it to get even you know, it's full membership back, which, like you said, it's just crazy times and we've all got to kind of weather. But it's good to know that, you know, you're you're still going strong. Have you seen like an increase in a number of viewers through this or can you even quantify that right now? You know what a lot of people keep asking me that, Um, not like

a surplus. There hasn't been like many spikes. It's it's been consistently growing ever since the quarantine happens. Like I guess that's what it's related to. I know there's just a surplus and live streaming because you know that, like that's the only way that people can train now is this virtual virtual workouts and that kind of thing. So yeah, I mean, like I said, we're we've we were steady doing good. We're continuing to do good. So there hasn't no,

there hasn't been like a huge spike and gets or anything. Dean. Dean, I have a funny story for you. So I do the fight camp thing. They put these trackers in your gloves and you you know, you beat up the bag and it tells you how hard you punch it, how many times you punch. And I was literally losing sleep because like, dudes are doubling what I'm doing. That that score and I'm like this is crazy, Like how can

someone be doubly? So I go, Shane, do one, because I know you're you're in better shape and you're you know, you've been doing this for your whole life and you dedicate your whole life. I want to see where you where you stand. So he did one I did. We won't you know. I went all out and he crushed me. He crushed so he was never It wasn't quite double, but it was definitely When I looked at the nub, he threw faster punches and probably about thirty more, which

was very tip of my cap. It was pretty incredible because I was dying. That's not surprising. He's kind of a professional. This is what he does. But I just feel like, you know, I don't know. I was hoping one would be harder like I throw. You can pick harder punch a hundred pounds more than the dude, almost right. I didn't want to say anything, Joe, but I mean I trained with you and your punches. I haven't said it before, but they're not that hard now now now

you know, now we are well next time. Next time, I'll make sure I don't use it. I ease up on you because you know, I don't want to hurt that pretty face when you're on TV. Bro, I'm the guy that makes you appreciate that. I do appreciate that. I can't. I can't have black eyes on tea so anyway, tip of the Captain Chane, he's the real deal. He beat me pretty I I took twelve. I was number twelve on out of like eight d fifty people. So

it wasn't terrible. This is Shane. This is also the same guy that thinks that of all the females in the world, he would never lose a fight. I did not say that. Your said you and I guys said, there's there's how many what how many billion? You're not like, you're not going three billion? And know you're just not. I can I can think of five off the top of my head, that right, five that are like local too. I could call him up right now, I would. I

would need to see that. I would tell that would make for great television right now, that would be right. That would be what was it Billy Jean King? And uh what was the guy's name? Bobby Travis the tennis match that was like the first big By the way, By the way, I invited Shane and Maria to our

Jersey Shore trip. Oh so yeah, so when quarantine ends, hopefully we can get out this summer, We're going to uh Bell mart New Jersey, Jersey Shore and Shane Shane or you're both right, your Maurice from Philly too, right, yep from so they obviously they know you guys know the Jersey Shore and I'm gonna pull out the red carpet. This is gonna be, This is gonna be Bell Martin. I've been to Belmar a handful of time. Oh yeah, uh Bell Mark Pleasant, Oh yeah, okay, he's got family

Point Pleasant perfect really okay, cool, cool, we'll it. Jenkinson's on the boardwalk. We're gonna hit DJ's bar a. It's gonna be, it's gonna be. Amen. I can't wait. All right, So let's talk. We've got a we've got a combat sport event coming up that we're all excited about UFC to forty nine. Um. And this has taking place in Florida, in Jacksonville, And obviously Florida has has said that, um,

you know that these are considered essential industry. The w W has been doing live events from there for a couple of weeks. What are we thinking, Shane, UFC to forty night. What excites you about the card? It's a great card, obviously the main event. You know, what are your thoughts on the card? What do you think in

terms of Ferguson, Engauge and give me your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, well, well, first of all, it's exciting that, like I mean, I think there's gonna be some great dealership just for the fact that it's the only sporting event going on right now. You know, I think people who weren't usually ends are gonna be tuning into this and they're in for a treat because there are some stacked fights on this card. Yeah, Gauge versus Ferguson, I mean,

right off the bat, I'm leaning towards Ferguson for multiple reasons. Um, but gaug is always game. He comes to knock people out, he comes moving forward, he's hard to put it, he's hard to put it away. Um, so you can never count him out. But the one, the one tell for me that kind of said like I'm going to lead towards Ferguson was the fact that Gauge had admitted that he was scared. He admitted that he was fearful going

into a fight against against someone like Ferguson. And although every fighter going into a fight no matter who you are, Tyson's admitted that he got scared before fights too. I don't think that's something that you should publicly say. And I think that that kind of is foreshadow of what

could happen. You know, if you already start planning that seed, and you already started letting it grow within your mind, you may take a hit that normally you would walk through and keep coming forward, but you may when it happens in the fight after admitting it publicly. Um, when that hit land, maybe like that's the one that's putting me away, and psychologically it does, and then soon after you get finished. So for that reason, I'm definite leading

towards Ferguson in the main of them. Yeah. I like Ferguson too. I think he just has more weapons. He said Gates, He's always game. He's gonna go in and try to knock the guy out. Um. I just I think Ferguson just has He just has more ways to win. Um And I just I also I want to see Tony win because I want to be disappointed when him and could be get canceled for the sixth time for the for the lightweight the lightweight title. You mentioned going going scared into a fight. I remember one of the

biggest fights when I was a kid growing up. It was Michael Spins and and Tyson and I can't remember a fighter looking more scared, like a deer in headlights and Michael spins and it played out. But obviously Mike Tyson was you know, he was the baddest man on the planet at that point. And everybody you know was intimately dated. But he looked like, you know, it looked like almost like an amateur somebody that that wasn't a

world champion going into that fight. And it was what it was like in the seconds and he got knocked out, and uh and you know, and so there was a video I know, Joe, you sent us the video of Mike Tyson um training and hitting hitting paths just recently. Did you see that chain? What do you think it looked like? He didn't He hasn't skipped a beat man

like a rotational power duties. He's still got it. And I heard there's talks from him that he once did he wants to come back, he wants to take another fight. I thought. But so even how what percentage of heavyweights you think Tyson could still take out like like current boxing heavyweights. Uh? Majority, I mean once once you start going, I mean you talk about the guys who people are familiar with now the Tyson Furies and and Deontay wild Well, actually, yeah,

I still think Deante Wilder, I think Tyson. I think the guys who have their youth, who have their skills, were at the top of their game. They beat they beat Tyson know they're they're either weather the storm and outlasted him or they out jack him whatever. And based on his age. But we're talking like the ones that were not familiar with man like him against uh maybe like Ruise Andy Ruise. That would would be interesting, I think, But even so, I don't think that's really interesting. Both

like kind of shorter guys. Both guys just like to throw. I mean, I think Tyson's probably still I mean from that video he looked like technically he's still very sound. But I would agree with you Shane that probably the top guys he's not gonna be And again the weather, the storm and who knows where where where Tyson's gas tank is right now, I would you know what he's you know, be fun if he did like a three round fight, he did like a three round match with

any of these guys. I think I think he's got three solid rounds in them, and that would be interesting. He looked good, man, He did look good. But again that's it's a short burst. And you look at guys that have fought at that, and I think the two guys that come to mind, I mean George Foreman, Um, George former won a title. I think he was in his late forties. Then Bernard Hopkins forward into his fifties

and and was successful. So certainly there's there's precedent for it, um, But I mean Tyson has been the guy's been just through so much, just mentally and emotionally, and and and to think that he wants to come back now and fight it would be again, I agree, three rounds type of exhibition that would be fun to watch. I mean, I'm not taking anything away from Tyson, of course, legend of legend, absolutely legend. But I mean we spilled a lot of ten second clip that and everyone looks good

on pads. Who knows the last time he sparred. Who knows the last time he's had a punch thrown at him. So but it's it's fun to entertain. Look, he's fifty three, he'll be ju this year. So what do you think of the Judo fight. That's the other one. I was really I mean that I like Huo, but Cruiz has always been a real interesting dude to watch these so like his angles are a trip and so non traditionally,

I feel like he always has a shot. But Hudo is just a He's just a monster, and he's really technically sound, especially on takedown you know, and his takedowns and his ground stuff. We're gonna be a very interesting fight. Anytime Cruise is fighting, it's going to be an interesting fight. So Hudo, I really like he's made a huge, drastic evolution in his career very quickly. Um, who's the favorite? So Whudo is the favorite? Yeah, he's a pretty pretty

good favorite, pretty big favorite. Although I think I think Cruiz is probably like favorite, but fans and this one so Hudo doesn't have many fans kind of remind remember when remember when Diego got all weird, Diego Sanchez got all weird, like kind of after the Ultimate Fighter, where like I feel like who on that Sanchez is not is there's definitely a screw loose. Yeah, I feel like who is like in the same boat. He's just kind

of weird. Whenever, like I fall him on Instagram and some of the stuff he does is just like, what are you doing? Bro? Well, you know, and I'll say this now because he's starting to become a little bit more transparent. But I talked to him in person and that was one of the first things I I was like, so this this cringe thing that you do? Is that is that natural? Is that just coming out? And he admitted to me, he's like, you know what I talked

to Uh. I took to d C, to Daniel Cormier and he's like, d C said, uh, you know you you're kind of already a little bit cringe. Just turn a dial up, just crank it up. And I promised, like, you're going to get more attention by doing that. So it's it's it's a bit of an act um and I get it and it works, you know, Like it's kind of like Mayweather, Like Mayweather knows more people hate them than they do support him, but either way they're

gonna pay the one. Yeah. Yeah. So so in that fight, um, I predict you know, we're going to see that that footwork from Cruize, but I think that, um, I think so Judo is going to try to negate it with kicks. I think we're gonna see a lot of kicks from sudo um to the legs to the body to the head and when you're moving a lot, when you're moving the feet and the head, that's usually the strategy that when you want to use against someone, the other thing

is too. Suhodo's got really good accurate see and if you watch his training, like in the Instagram videos that he shares, he does something like really intense specific type training that works accuracy in reaction time. Like his coaches will throw a rod that's two different colors. It'll be green on one end and red on the other, and they'll throw it in the air and mid air they'll say left hand green, and he's got to react and catch it with which hand and he's part of the stick.

So that's like, I'm a big fan of that type of training because it's thinking on your feet, it's quick reaction time, it's good accuracy. We're going against the guy who's a moving target. It's it's gonna be cool to see like the guy who moves a lot and the guy who's very accurate, who's going to win that battle? Yeah, that'll be a good one. And then you know they'll

go ahead. And I'm sorry I was gonna say the last one I want to ask you about just because I see who got her hat on, and I know, I know she's a friend of yours Waterson and as spars as spars as a local girl too, right, she's a Torrance check right, yeah, yeah, And Vince, I was talking to Vince about this fight. Vince's is pulling for a Carlo on this one. He's wrestled with her and he said he is and absolute beast when it comes

to her wrestling. Um. And if she can, if she can get in close on on Michelle on the karate hottie and take her down, I think she has an advantage there. But Michelle is no joke. I'm biased, of course, but I think she I think she definitely leaves in the striking in that fight by a long shot. I think she's gonna be able to use her range, her distance, her kicks, and then if if it, if it does come to a clinch, I could see I could see Michelle even winning on the on the takedown on the ground.

I'd be curious to see. Of course, I know I know she's savvy, She's got a good camp trains at Jackson Wink. Her husband Josh is a great coach and they're always game for for whoever. So I think that's gonna be. I think that's gonna be a barber and I think that's gonna be a really good fight. Yeah, I think the whole car like that. Jeremy Stevens is on that card, You've got you've got mcgona, who fighting in heavyweight, You've got Greg Hardy is on the main card,

and it's so it's gonna be. It's just gonna be fun to watch again in the UFC, is right, They're putting on what three events in eight days, So Dane is not wasting any time. He figures, well, let's get back into it. Let's get these fighters work and uh and Travis, you were saying that the fighters are gonna be quarantined in a hotel. Is that is that part of it? Yeah, they're steal off in a hotel. All all twelve pairs of the fighters are being stealed off

in a hotel and their temperatures taken every day. So they're gonna take all the measures that they have to make sure that these fighters are healthy when they're in the ring and it'll be it'll be interesting. It'll be an interesting experience to watch without fans right to watch.

It's almost like you think about the ultimate fighter and and it would be more of you'll hear everything the coaches are saying, you'll hear what the you know, the referee saying, because you're not gonna have that crowd reaction and just the energy will be different. Um, I'm really curious as to how it's gonna feel, you know, just without the the energy of the crowd, it'll be interesting. You know. One f C did a fight right as the quarantines were starting, and they held it in Singapore,

and that is it. That was an event that they did whe there was no one in the crowd. And it was interesting because the headliner or the comin event, Stamp Fairtex her her thing like her when she walks out to the ring. She's known for dancing and like getting hyped up with the crowd and she dances with the crowd. But it was interesting to see her walk out there and she's dancing by herself and she's looking

up at the crowd for like some feedback and get nothing. Uh. And she lost that fight to My Girl with Janet todd Um. But it was it was It was eerie, especially the walkouts to see just no one there and just completely quiet. That's an interesting point you have the entries. Do you think that a fighter that feeds off the energy of the crowd, especially like pre fight, do you think that that really like you said, she lost that fight? Is that is? Could that be a real thing? Could

that be a factor? Do you see a fighter um on the card, you know, on on Saturday having you know that being an impact. Don't confuse tradition with superstition. I heard once and yeah, like we have our fighters have their rituals going into fights, and if they don't have what they're used to, if everything's not set perfect. Of course you're told to be able to roll the

punches and adjusting a situation. But if they're used to get that that walk, it's an intense walk and they've got all eyes on you and hear your name being shoot and you're looking around and everyone's all eyes are on you. So it breaks some people and for other people that's where they get their energy. And if they don't have that, yeah, I think certain people, whether they know it or not, they're gonna find out on May nine. Yeah,

that's interesting. I'm excited and excited for it. Um excited that you're still doing well and and uh, and we just talked about, hey, maybe we can do something. We can do something Saturday and do a live stream and get a couple of people together and watch watch the fights. You know, socially distant, but watch it together and and maybe comment on it. If you guys will be up for that, that would be super cool. Yet, watch it live.

This way we can do our commentary, we get feedback from everyone watching, and everyone continue and watch the fights together. I think that sounds like a lot of fun. All right, cool, we'll talk about that. We'll we'll post some details to Twitter and uh Instagram and figure it out on YouTube. And uh, hey, Shane, thanks again for joining us. We'll have you on again. You're a regular. You're on Mount Rushmore. We're still were installing you. Right up there next to

was me for sure. And I don't know one of these two guys. It might be two people up there, is all. It might just be two of us. But thanks for joining us, man, and best of luck with everything. Mom. I made it. I made it a regular. Al Right, guys, well thanks for having me on until next time. Take care of be safe, stay healthy. Hey, Shane, you Bobby Riggs was the name Dean Bobby Riggs. Battle of the Sexes. Yeah,

but Joe, he could take down any lady. But I love how Shane says he has five right here in l a that that could Yeah. I mean, I know he would have said Jackie the one that he referenced, and and she could definitely beat me in a kickboxing match. But you know, I'm taking her right to the ground. I'm putting all this mass on her. She's a tiny little girl. All right, Let's go to enough master. All right. On that note, let's go to break and we come back.

We'll talk about some other events that are returning suit and we'll get into we'll get into some social distancing tips from our main social distance or Joe mad It next on Good Call. Alright, we're back on Good Calls. Thanks again to see Phasing for joining us. Let's get right into it. Last week was episode thirty four, So in honor of episode thirty four, we discussed who the best player to wear number thirty four is U. We came up with four people alright, the four ward shack

Old Jackson, Walter Payton, and Nolan Ryan. Now I want to present my case for each person, and then we're ultimately going to decide who the best thirty four was. Now, I'll give you a couple of a couple of just background. I did post a poll on Twitter, and I asked Twitter who was the best US thirty four? And uh on Twitter decided said Walter Payton, um second was shock with third was bo at twenty and Nolan Ryan was seventeen. That was sev twenty four people voted. Then my brother

chimed in, we all know my brother. Here's my brother's take on on number thirty four. We really need to hear brother back on the show because I want to hear his take on corn teen and coarandine we're definitely gonna We're definitely gonna get But here's what he said. Where let me find it. Let me find it here. Okay. I listened to podcasts about best athlete wearing number thirty four. It is hands down Bo Jackson. Athlete means athlete. I don't think Nolan Ryan could do anything else but throw

a ball hard. Maybe he could play golf too, and Walter Payton was not even the best running back of all time. Barry Sanders blows them all away, and the next bunch is a crap shoot, crap shoot. Bo did it all every sport, hands down, best athlete of all time forget number thirty four, and he did it before NFL got left up with replay. Sad part is, Bow wouldn't be as good if he played today because he's

direct shot. Wait, but sad part is Bow wouldn't be as good if he played today because he would have got flagged for running people over because you know, we need that player safety thing. That's my brother's take. Good to know he hasn't changed during quarantine. Yes, so here's what and it's not. We didn't say best athlete, who

is the best player to wear number thirty four? So here's here's the parameters that came up with individual accomplishments, How he compared to his peers, was he ever considered the best at the sport when he played, success right, championships, career learn longevity, and then the quality of play in terms of when that player played during their era. So so that's what I came up with a couple of questions we gotta answer. First, Shack only wore thirty four

were with the Lakers. Should we count only those years? What do you think? I think yes, I think that you maybe could take points away for even changing your number throughout your career. I agree, I don't think you can. To me, he's still it's the best player to wear number thirty four. So whether he wore thirty two like he did with Orlando and then with the Heat, he wore thirty four with the Lakers, but he was he was still the player that he was, So I think

we could take some points away. But I don't think we discount his years in Orlando, his years in Miami, which were the two he played for other teams Phoenix, but those were the only two others that he really did anything. You know, you really proved your greatness right there.

You really broke that down. Well, so I'm gonna I'm gonna yes, I think that's still the Other question that came up was should Bo Jackson's baseball career count because he didn't wear thirty four as a baseball player, he wore six team Well, I mean, nobody else is playing two sports that exactly, so, so I I don't think I think we have to count baseball because they think he that encompasses What made Bow so great was the fact that he played two sports right, just at such

a high level. So so I don't think we discount his baseball career. And then and then lastly, Nolan Ryan that this is the picture debate, right, and you've you've heard this before. We with m VP, because he didn't play every day, should he lose points for not being an everyday player unlike the other guys? What do you think?

It's the argument of kenne Picture being m v P. And I always say yes, they can because if they go out in the fifth day and they're shutting people down and you guarantee of victory that day, like then yeah, there's still athletes there. Just because they don't play every day doesn't doesn't take it. I think a picture, although they only play every fifth day, some you know, some you know will pitch on short rest, but they control that day they play. Nobody has more impacture game than

they do. And I'll tell you what I mean. I understand the argument. But for Noran Ryan, the dude played like fourteen seasons. So let's get into that. Let's get into that because I want to do this quickly. Let's go. Okay, So so here's shacks resume. All right, So you talk about Shack. He played. He played twenty years. Two thousand eleven he was with the Lakers and two thousand and four. He won four championships, three with the Lakers, one with

the Heat. Okay, when he his rookie year with the Magic, the Magic won twenty more games than they did the previous year, and he took them to the finals. In his third season, he obviously won Rookie of the Year. He was a three time Finals m v P. So the three years he won with the Lakers, he was the Finals m v P. There was another guy on those teams. Skip Skip, keep going, all right. He was the MVP of the league once, fifteen time All Star, eight times All NBA First Team to second team, four

All NBA Third Team. He was a two time scoring champion. He was named to the fiftieth Anniversary and if n NBA Team. He's eighth on the all time scoring list, fifteenth and rebounds, which was surprising. I thought he'd be higher up in rebounds, eighthan blocks. His number thirty four was retired by the Lakers. He's in the Hall of Fame. And if you just if you want to take one thing against him, alright, his his career free throw percentage, which is a big part of the game, was fifty

two point seven percent. Now, when you think about was he the most dominant player when he played, to me, yes, absolutely, he was the most dominant player in his prime when he played. And you're thinking about, I mean he played earlier, he played with Michael Jordan's, he played with guys like

Tim Duncan in that. But I think when you talk about dominance and not being unstoppable shock, there was a point where Shack was pretty unstoppable and the only way you could stop him was to foul him because he was bad at the free They kind of changed the rules a little bit for him. Okay, so let's go to bub alright, Bo he talked about baseball. Now, he played nine seasons in the in in Major League Baseball. He was an All Star once. He was the m v P of that game in four home runs and

consecutive at bats, which was a record. Last was off Randy Johnson, future Hall of Famer. He was Comeback Player of the Year with the White Sox. He hit thirty home runs once, he had twenty home runs four times. He stole twenty basses twice, and he had one our one one RBI season. Okay, that's baseball football. He played four seasons. He only played thirty eight games in his football career. Okay, and when he started, he was a part time player. Marcus Allen was the starting running back,

but he eventually supplanted Marcus. He never had a thousand yard rushing season, but he did average five point four yards per Russian which is which is a good number. He made one Pro Bowl and obviously the hip injury one cut his career short. And when we think about bow was he the best player at the position during the time, No, we can't say that he was. But in terms of the best athlete on the planet, to me, yes, at that time, he was the best athlete on the planet.

Can't even argue that in my opinion. Again, I said, I don't even think that's arguable. That dude was a monster. And when when I hear his staff, there nothing to write home about but watching him, it was just electric dude.

And I think that's the thing, Like he had these moments, he had these moments when you think about he running up the wall, making a catch and running up the outfield wall the game, the Monday night game against the Seahawks, he ran for two one yards still on Monday Night, on Monday Night football record, ran over Bosworth in the end zone when there was all that talk. So the moments that he had were iconic. But when you look at his career, he doesn't have the career the Shack has.

But let's keep going, all right, Walter Payton. Think about thirteen seasons seven, he won one Super Bowl, he was went to the Pro Ball nine times. He was first team All Pro seven and he was second team All Pro once. He was m VP the league once, two times, NFC Offensive Player of the Year. He led the league in rushing once, led the league in touchdowns once, led the league in rushing attempts four times. He was named to the NFL All Decade Team in this nineteen seventies

and the nineteen eighties. He's second on the all time list in terms of rushing yards. When he retired, he broke the record. Emmett Smith has since surpassed him. He's eleventh all time in touchdowns. He holds the Bears records, the Chicago Bears records for most rushing yards, receptions, and touchdowns. He's on the NFL seventy fifth Anniversary team, he's on the NFL's a hundredth anniversary team. He's had his number retired,

and he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And when you talk about was he the best running back at that time? Think of the running backs that were in the league when he played. I'll give you a list. O. J. Simpson, Frank o'harris, Earl Earl Campbell, Billy Sims, Tony Dorset, John Riggins, Marcus Allen, and Eric Dickerson. Can we say Walter Payton was head and shoulders better than those guys? I don't think.

I don't think you can. But but who can you say out of all those guys head and shoulder above the rest of the crew. I agree? I agree. I just think that when you I would lump Walter Payton into that group, I wouldn't consider him separate from that group. Okay, we'll answer this question. You do you have one running back to pick out of that hole? Everyone you just said, who do you take him? Me? Eric Dickerson, me too? So all right. So that's Walter. Now let's get to Nolan.

All right, Nolan, you talked about his career twenty eight seasons, sixty six. He won one World Series. He was an All Star eight times. He led the n L and e r A two times. He led the league's in both leagues and strikeouts eleven times. Okay, his the asked was the Rangers have retired his number thirty four. He wore thirty with the Angels. They also retired that number. All right. He's in the Angels Hall of Fame, the Astros Hall of Fame, the Rangers Hall of Fame, and

the Pro Baseball Hall of Fame. He was elected first ballot ninety eight point seven nine percent of the ballot. He's on the All Century Team. He has the most career strikeouts five thousand, seven hundred and fourteen. The next closest is Randy Johnson at four thousand, eight hundred and seventy five. He struck out the most most batters in one season three three. He's at two hundred and fifteen double digit strikeout games. He's had twelve career one hitters.

He's at fifteen two hundred strikeout seasons. He's had six three hundred strikeout seasons. He's pitched seven no hitters, which is three more than any other picture. He's had the fewer fewest career hits per nine innings six point five, lowest batting average allowed for career two oh four. But also when you think about the longevity now, on the down side, he's has the most walks in Major league history, he's given up the most Grand slams, and he's had

the most stolen bases against him. As as a picture, he's also had two hundred twenty two complete games. Do you know what active picture bar Tolo Cologne? How many bar Tolo Cologne has? That's the most of an act active picture today? Take a guess, travist what thirty eight? And again, different game today. Just don't pitch complete games. But he pitched two hundred twenty two complete games. He won three hundred twenty four fourteenth all time sixty one shutouts. Okay,

so there it is there. You're really you're really tone wise, you're really pushing for No. One because, if I recall, you're the one no no in America. Right, Let's let's do this. Let's do this democratically. I think if we had to a limit eight one right off the back. Based on these parameters, who would it be? You know, One thing I do want to say one thing is

gonna be a very Travis like statement though. One thing about all these guys, they're all they were all seemed like really good dudes, like they're there, you like them, they were very like, well, they're very cool, They're they're Yeah. Absolutely, But again that's not that that's not part of the discussion, but all good dudes. But I think we gotta eliminate. And then to me it comes like, honestly, for me, I'm eliminating Walter and it's between Shack and Nolan. That's

that's me. I don't know what about you guys. I could agree with that. I'm fine with that. You're looking at longevity, you're looking at championships, that's for Shack. You know. Records, Yeah, like the numbers you rattled off with Nolan Ryan. It's

just it's so impressive. So I'm okay with losing losing Walter there, and I think yeah, and I think here's and I'll here's the argument against Nolan um is it's tough to compare him and say he was the most dominant picture of his era because he pitched through so many different eras, like he pitched from the sixties to

the nineties, and obviously that's a testament. But I don't think I don't think there was a point where, you know, there might have been a couple of of of points in his career where he was definitely one of the top pictures. But I think just his consistency and certainly the strikeouts were such a big was such a big thing um for him. But but you notice something that

I didn't say that he won. He never wont to ci Young, which which is the best picture in baseball that year, and obviously they moved it used to be just one and then they moved it to both leagues. So to me, that being said, I'm going shock, Shock to me was the best thirty four. That's that we've finally got him. Boys, I'm gonna agree with shock too. But it's like for most of his career were thirty two.

But I think just two championships, and how dominant he was as a player, like you, you had to incorporate a new rule because because of that he was dominant. He was dominant, He was a dominant force. And he he hadn't seen anything like him at that size, with that type of agility, and I think I think had he been a better free throw shooter, um, I think he you know, he's in the he's in the debate for best player of all time. But my my opinion

doesn't count because you guys already. But I'm gonna go Nolan strictly because he wasn't He didn't have the physical gifts at Shaq had and shockin from what I've read about Shock, and I'm I'm a laker, you know, I'm a laker for life. But I heard he was lazy and not bugs me, although I'm pretty lazy. When you have that type of talent um, sometimes you're gonna rest

on your talent and maybe not work this hard. Um that that's something that he is is that you've heard a lot of you know a lot of people, a lot of a lot of athletes have have relied on their talent and didn't make half the career that checked it and uh and again it's it's a good I really feel like it's between those two. You could go either way, but ultimately I think Shock just being the dominant force study was I think he's the guy. All right, Well,

there it is. Let's let's set up real quick episode thirty five. Who's the best player to wear number thirty five? So let's let's did you google it? Did you look? Thirty five is not an easy one. What I did have one I thought of it before I googled it, and I came up with the big hurt That's what I had to Okay, so let's do this collectively. Big hurts on the list. Let's come up with four big hurt is on the list. And if I'm looking, I gotta go, we gotta enter. If you think about I'm

adding Tony s Posito. Now, if you're not a fan, you may not know, but Tony s Posito, I'm putting him in. Okay, that's I'm executive decisioning. I'm putting Tony spit on. All right. Another guy, another guy I first thought of when I when I heard thirty five was a guy I used to watch in the nineties. You guys remember him, Christian Nikoya. He's not gonna be on anyone's list, but just like a guy that was just like a crazy running back. He was a monster. He

was good. Nigeria nightmare. That's a good um. But I don't think he makes the list. I think he gotta put Ricky Henderson out there, but he didn't where he was he wore thirty five though in his career so so and and this is where we get into these debates. If he wore the number, we've already decided. If he wore the number at some point, then he enters into that number. What about k D I think, I think to me, durants on the list too, So I think

that's the four I think. And Henderson, I think he wore it like, let's at least you're working at it right now. He wore it from seventy that he bore in one for the A's than two to eighty four, and then again for the Mariners in two thousand and then also for the Red Sox in two thousand two. Yeah, I mean his career, twenty four is the number he'll most be remembered for. Then there should be we have to we have to implement a rule here. Could it be like it's got to be more than half of

your career? Oh okay, if you're in the Hall of Fame, what number which Jersey did you go in with that's the one. That's the one. Well, I don't know if every Hall of Fame makes you a number or jersey that's like a baseball thing and then maybe your career because you can't have them, right, you can't have like justin Verlanders career, Joe Jogi Barah wore thirty five at one point, but they're not known for that number. And so that's why I think we allowed Shack because Shock

was most successful in thirty four. So so do we want to say that that the number if if you wore that number and that was not your most successful point in your career, that it doesn't you can't use him. That's I think that's too subjective, and we don't want to. We don't like to. We don't like to review subjective plays. Dean, Yeah, you show it out with past deference, So I think

it needs to be the rock solid. Hey, if you played twenty years, you played ten of them in thirty two, so you have that, you have that half of your career at that note. That's what I think. Okay, that sounds fair to me. So did Shack make it? Let me say, hold on, I just threw the red flag out on you hold on after further review, hold on, I think you played eight seasons with the Lakers. Hold on? Are in Miami? Also? Right? You were thirty two with Miami. Yeah.

The other he didn't wear he didn't wear thirty two with the Lakers because it was retired was magic um. So he played twenty years and oh no Lakers nine? He played nine seasons with the Lakers. How many twenty years? What do you want? I said, we round up? I said, we round up. You know what I mean on the show man, Let's round up. I can't I can't go. We can't go through that rule will the rule will start now? Alright? So the rules starting now? All right?

So Ricky Henderson's out. So Ricky Anderson's out. Just like we put in hacker Shack, we're putting in a rule after shock now again, So it's Frank Thomas, Tony Esposito, I think Verlander now and and who and who's the fourth k D? So that's our four. So we'll put that out. Well, we'll make a post and we'll talk about it next. I mean, what about Chris Kaman though the ugliest man in the NBA. Let's let's move on. Let's move on. Last dance, nobody watched, nobody cares anymore.

I'm not talking about it. He had a hambling piction. He left the NBA, and then he came played baseball, and then he came back, and then he left the Bulls and then he played for for Washington. Blah blah blah. I'm done with that, um, Joe. Anything that you do with social distancing wise different, I've got it. Just two quick quick tips. Instacart. I've started the Instacart thing. It's amazing. They bring it right to your door now. They even just drop it off. So if you're not doing the

Instacart thing for your growth, there's lines. I don't understand these lines. It's insane Instacart. The other one, I go ahead, but I also like to pick up. I like Ralph's pickup. That one's great too. The order online and you try to pick it up. It's nice. I can't have one self. I can't have just that. Ha, Travis, this is Joe thing. Your life hasn't changed much. The other one and this is for the parents out there, especially people in l A or high traffic areas. Take advantage of the lack

of traffic. I took my kids driving through downtown l A, pinted out the buildings, took him through Malibu, showed him, you know, the ocean. You know, just did some cool stuff and in the car. That's a great point because you're not because once this is over, you're not. It's you're never like on a Saturday saying hey, let's take a drive to Koreatown like like kill me, like like in dealing with that traffic. So those are my too smart.

Good tip. That's a good tip. What are we watching, Travis? What? What's the latest I got? I got through four episodes of Waco so far fascinating. Waco is insane. Wait until you wait, until you watch the last episode. Just wait. I have so many questions. I don't want to ask. I don't I don't want to look anything up because I can't remember it. I was too young to remember it. I didn't follow it all that closely as a kid.

And I'm just I want to know how closely it is to the truth, and and I just I'm I'm so interested to find out. So, yeah, you'll do some research. There's definitely Look, there's two sides to what happened. You have the Branch Davidians version and then you have the FBI's version. Um, I think I think the documentary does a pretty good job. They're definitely they're definitely presenting it from the inside, but they do a pretty good job of kind of presenting the issues. But it is it's

really good. So watch WAGO. It's really good. They do a great job. And uh, the last episode is unbelievable looking forward to it. How do you get through the so fast? It's still amazing to me? You just watch I started watching The Last Kingdom as anybody watched that on Netflix. It's been around, It's been around for like four seasons, and I just started watching it. It's like kind of like, um, medieval style Game of Thrones style,

and uh, I really like it. It's good if you like Game of Thrones type stuff without without all the you know, the kind of the fantasy stuff and the and the White Walkers and all that. It's really good. I like it. Um. The other thing I watched, I watched it just earlier today was Castaway with Tom mas I mean, I've seen it a million times, but I watched it and I have to takeaways from the movie. Um,

Tom Hanks was like mud Geyver in that movie. The fact that that movie would have been twenty minutes long if it were have been any one of us, because we would have just not survived, and and he was unbelievable. And the other thing. If I told you there's a movie where a guy is going to become best friends with a volleyball, and then when he loses that volleyball, you're gonna be upset, you would tell me I was crazy, and you are upset when he loses Wilson, like I

was legitimately sad when he lost Wills. Did you watch that? Because it's you feel like it's the life or Curly Liv's where I told you I called I call my Alexa babe the other day, like like it is seriously, this is I feel like that's the life that we're living right now. And uh, but Tom Hanks man and I, you know, I haven't ordered an update. I know Tom Manx was one of the first celebrities him and his wife Rita was one of the first celebrities that that

and asked that they did test positive for corona. So I don't know. I think he's recovered. I thought I thought I saw when he hosted the The The the SNL from from Remote from Home. He was, he said, they he's recovered, finding his wife has recovered as well. The other show. I think you'd like Dean because you love Ricky Gervais if you watched Afterlife. I've seen, yeah, this new season, I've seen Afterlife. I do like a lot of Rickey Gervais's stuff. I watched one season of

Afterlife and then I think I got sidetracked. Um, but I do go back to season two. It's it's it's good. I'm watching that right now too. It's it's such a dark comedy. He's got such a great, such a great way of uh of of going about his his problems. He he deals with depression and in his just his his delivery on jokes is just so good in that. Yeah, you know, he's really good. I've seen him. I've seen him twice live do stand up and really enjoyed it.

Um and the other thing that I saw and it's on like like queebo queeby it's it's I guess it's like a streaming platform. New episodes of Reno nine one one on on starting to starting on May four. Reno nine one one on Queeby and a new episode, a new episode every day, and I think they're short episodes. I think this is an online platform that I think they do maybe ten minutes segments. And so Reno number one and it's all. The entire cast is back. So

like Junior and Dangle and Garcia and everybody. It's so if you haven't watched that show, A lot of those guys from from Kids in the Hall, right, Yeah, they're all gonna it's starting to stand up. And but Joe, even during quarantine, quarantine, Joe is not a TV guy, so he's he's out of this conversation. Let's bring him back in and let's do brain of Blandino before we end. Sorry, man, I just I got other stuff going on. I guess I don't know you hear me. I'm do you hear what?

You hear what I'm doing. I'm punching, punching bags against against Shane. I'm challenging pros's editing the show, making the audio sound good. So we just we just covered an hour of your day. What about the other tree it's hard making you guys sound good. Here we go, Brandon Blendino, Thank god, we don't have to memorize numbers anymore, right,

So do you remember like you? And that's why I think about like our generation in terms of we talked about what generation acts and and like early millennials, because we we we know both worlds. We know pre cell phones and we know post cell phones. You know, during cell phones, you have to memorize your own number, Like I still I'm trying to remember my old number. Dude, I could remember. I still have numbers that I still remember, right,

like friends, birthdays or I mean friends phone, no birds. Yeah, Mike, I remember you used to have to remember the number to call and do the rotary phone. If we have to remember numbers, no one, we would never be communicating. We would never If you have to remember everybody's number every time you texted, it would never. It wouldn't happen. Sometimes I won't put a new person's name in my phone for a while. I'll just let it the number pop up to see if it'll it'll just be like

burns of My memory doesn't work anymore. Not in the day everyone's number. You used to have used to rememberize everyone's number, and I used to be really good at it. And then now it's like no way, like I can't like just to have like what if you lose your cell phone, like Joe, what if you lose your cell phone and you have to call me and d I'm stuck somewhere, Dean, I need and you and you gott you know what I don't even know are what's that?

I don't even know your area six or six? You gotta find a pay I have no idea, I neither one of you. I couldn't tell you the area coach three one out after that. I'm no change. I don't even know anyone's number but my ex wife number, that was it, and she's changing the number, so you don't have I don't know. I know my wife number by heart. I know my ex is number pretty much. That's it. I don't even know my mom's number off the top

of my head anything. I don't know mine either. They got rid of their house phone five years ago, and I think I think everybody probably has one number that they can still memorize. That's it. That's that's the capacity right now. That's sad. It's really sad. And your own, yeah, and my own exactly. I just don't check to actually know my mom's number. By heart. It's a very easy number. So I got one. I know your mom's number. Two. Joe hit the rim shot. On that note, this has

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