The Saxon Origins of London

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Hello and welcome to Gone Medieval from History Hit. My name is Dr Kat Jarman and today I'm going to be talking about Saxon London. The bustling megalopolis of London has been described as one of the world's greatest and most resilient cities. But while the story of modern London is pretty well known, a less familiar side of its history is its development in the early medieval period.

But this phase is crucial for understanding what London was to become later on. So to find out all about Saxon London, I've invited Dr Rory Naismith to the podcast today. Welcome, Rory. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. Now, Rory is a lecturer in the history of England before the Norman Conquest at the Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic at the University of Cambridge. And he's written several books, including the brilliant Citadel of the Saxons.

Rise of Early London. So that's what we're going to be talking about today and the content of Roy's book. But just sort of start off the conversation. Can we... By learning about London's Saxon origins, can that help us understand anything about how and why the city is the way it is today?

I'd say yes. I think that in many ways, London as the entity we understand it to be now within the context of... of England and Britain and the world, that's to say as basically a mega city, a huge, important place where there's lots of trade and lots of government and lots of cultural things going on concentrated in one place.

You can trace that back to the early Middle Ages, and you can see London taking on that role, particularly in governmental, military, economic terms, very rapidly in the decades around the year 1000. And so it's about then that you start to see it become the megacity of England. It goes on from there to become the megacity of Britain and then of the British Empire and what it is today.

So this is a really good starting point then to understand how it gets to that point. And now obviously this podcast is about the medieval period, but I think we do very briefly, just to start off, have to go a little bit further back in time to understand how... Saxon London developed. So what's the actual earliest evidence we have for a town in that location?

It's essentially the Roman period. There had obviously been people living in what's now Greater London for much, much longer than that. But as a concentrated, substantial urban settlement, it first appears in the aftermath of the Roman... conquest of Britain. So this is the middle of the first century AD. And that's known as Londinium, isn't it, that city?

Yes, there's some debate as to what word this comes from in the languages that were being spoken in Britain. It probably means something to do with a watery or reedy place, which makes a lot of sense by the banks of the Thames. And in fact, one of the characteristic things of... Pre-Roman London is all of these wonderful, valuable gold and other metallic artefacts that were deposited in the Thames as some kind of votive offerings. So that river really is part of a key or a big...

part of the queue, just as it was in later times, just from the start. Oh yeah, I think the Thames has been a huge part of London's identity economy for a long, long, long, long time. And what do we know about Roman London, then? We know quite a lot. And what's interesting is there aren't actually all that many...

textual sources in terms of manuscripts that were copied and passed down over time. Most of the information comes from archaeology, from things that have been excavated in the city, and particularly impressive are a whole host of written materials, like writing.

tablets that came to light actually mostly pretty recently within the last 10 years or so and these shed incredibly bright and wonderful light onto the society of london in particularly the first century a.d you can see masters you can see slaves, you can see education, you can see soldiers, you can see a city that comes to life. It's not just, you know, holes in the ground, it's a place where people actually lived.

And it really sort of thrived, didn't it, for quite a long period of time, for several centuries. It did. It was at its peak in terms of number of people. and trade and that sort of thing in about the first and second centuries AD. And it was the preeminent... city of Roman Britain. It was always a bit of a weird case in Roman Britain because it didn't fit into some of the regular classifications of Roman cities. It wasn't what was called a kivitas capital, so like a centre of one of the...

units of local government in Britain. It wasn't what they called a colonia, which was a sort of special settlement of ex-Roman soldiers. It was a sort of... sui generis example that thrived on its connections with the outside world and also... on the fact that it was closely connected with a number of these Kivitas units around it. So it was almost important because it was a sort of on the edge in between sort of place.

And paradoxically, that then made it a centre in its own right as the provinces of Britain became more of an entity. But then when we get to the end of the Roman period, does the city survive on its own or does it decline almost immediately? Yes, it declines, well, almost to nothing as far as we can see in the course of the 5th century.

It had been in a pretty rupee position for quite some time before then. Because London remained one of the focal points of room in government, there was still... relatively large investment and activities. Some parts of the walls were still being worked on and maintained right down to the end of the fourth century. But by that stage, it was a kind of shell with a few administrative institutions and soldiers in it.

many people actually living there. What activity there was in and around London by that stage and into the 5th century was mostly on the edge of the city. There's an interesting set of excavations on the edge of what's now Trafalgar Square, for example. which is well outside the bounds of the former Roman city, which is effectively the city, you know, with a capital C as it is now. Okay, so if we go then to that start of the medieval period, so 500 AD or so...

Was this sort of almost a bit like a ghost town or were the people living there? Yeah, I choose to imagine it like something out of, you know, pick your sort of fantasy film of choice, you know, like Tolkien or something. It's a place that's full of ruins. got hardly anyone, if anyone, actually living there on a permanent basis.

People would still have known it had been important. They would have known what it was called. There would have been a lot of open land within it because, of course, most of the buildings of Roman London would have been made of wood, just with a few monumental ones made out of stone. So it would have been an evocative place in the... landscape but not necessarily anymore, in fact definitely not anymore, a hub of actual people and administration and that sort of thing.

So, and you mentioned some of the archaeology earlier, and obviously I know we hate the term dark ages and all of that, but of course the idea of that is the fact that we don't know that much about what happens now. So what sort of evidence do we really have for those? first few centuries.

That's a very good question. And the short answer is not very much, which is why in the case of London, Dark Age in the context of not knowing very much is really quite apt for the fifth and sixth centuries. There's a small smattering of archaeological material from within. the city itself, there's a somewhat larger, though still not huge amount of material, like early burials, a few settlements from what's now the Greater London area, sort of roughly within the M25.

This is something that archaeologists and historians have become more conscious of in about the last 50, 60 years. If you go back to literature from the early 20th century, people talked about there being a Romano-British enclave around London into... the fifth and sixth centuries because they just hadn't found very much in terms of burials and settlements up to that point that's now no longer accepted it's now thought that the area around london was

settled and developed in much the same way as the rest of eastern, southeastern Britain. There are references to London in later historical sources that relate to this period. We hear about how there were various battles fought around it in the 5th century. Saxon Chronicle, but those entries are extremely dubious. They're basically seen as made up now, almost as much fantasy as Tolkien was.

Yes. Well, I guess a lot of the early parts of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle is just filling in some gaps, isn't it? And then, yeah, you just sort of, you don't really know, so you sort of stick something in there, perhaps. But then if we go a bit forward again to the sort of 7th and up towards the 9th century, I think the key point then is to understand also some of the wider political situation around London and in England in general. So can you just sort of...

I know that's a big question, but just quickly sort of summarise what's going on that then has an impact on the development of Saxon London? Well, if we think about the period from about the middle of the 7th century onwards, England at that stage... is made up of a number of different kingdoms. And in fact, there's an awful lot of these kingdoms if you take them in their totality. Some of them are very small and they're usually part of much bigger kind of conglomerate kingdoms.

Major conglomerate kingdoms that had interests in the area around London were Kent to the southeast. There was a kingdom of the East Saxons, which is where we get Essex from. That had been an autonomous kingdom early on, but by the... the mid to late 7th century, it was effectively part of the dominion of one of the other major players who were the Mercians. And there...

power base was really in what's now the West Midlands, but they were moving down into the southeast as well. So you can see the Kings of the Mercians active in places like Surrey and Middlesex as well. And the Kings of the West Saxons too already. at this date sometimes extend to have involvement in the London region as well.

What's interesting is that in the Roman period, London benefited from having all these different kingdoms, kivitas units around it, sometimes called tribes, but we're talking about areas roughly the size of a county. the sort of middle Anglo-Saxon period here, you can see that sort of profile beginning to come online again, that London is benefiting from the fact it has a number of these different kingdoms, these different agglomerations of power and wealth.

people who want an interest in this trading centre that's connected also with the seas and the outside world. So again, London being on the Thames where you can cross over to get north and south and you can go up or down the river to get in and out. starting to become once again a place where people come to do business and interact with those from other kingdoms.

Yeah, and this is exactly what becomes really important in the next step for London, isn't it? So we're moving into what becomes known as Londonwick.

then that sort of trade and those connections are hugely important. So can you explain a bit about the wick element of that? What are those wicks? Well, wick is a term from Old English, which is an element that's... used in place names it still survives in its witch for example sandwich various others and it's it means something like specialized settlement um i mean it's probably not that concrete it's used for lots of places where it's quite

hard to see what the specialized element might have been. But it was a term that was actually used quite generically. But it did apply to a number of these new... coastal settlements that developed into a sort of a town. I stress sort of a town because, interestingly, they didn't use terms like, in Latin,

Kivitas or some of the others for them, which they reserved more for Roman cities that had a Roman history, which had a bishop. Lundenwick was more of a... I think one of the analogies I use in the book is a kind of permanent car boot sale. It's almost a kind of shanty town or sort of permanent craft fair, something like that. It doesn't have walls. It doesn't have churches. It doesn't have...

public spaces and monuments in the same way as we think a city really should. And that's because in contemporary eyes, it wasn't really a city as such. It served quite a different purpose. And you went a mile down the river to get to London. the city for those other kind of ceremonial, ecclesiastical, administrative purposes. London was a very economically focused place. It was full of craftsmen. It was full of traders. It had lots of connections with estates.

and trade and travel from the outside world. So it served a very, very different purpose to the Episcopal centers already there. But that openness, that degree of... sort of welcome almost that was extended to people who came in from a number of different kingdoms is what made it valuable whoever controlled them didn't shut other people out they want them to come in so they could then cream off

tolls from them and get other and have first pick of what was being brought into the city. So that was really quite a profitable place to have a stake in Londonwick then, I suppose. Very much so, yeah. Yeah, you can see that we know that one of the kings of the Mercians, King Athelbald, who ruled from 716 to 757, he... quite unusually, issues a whole series of charters, mostly relating to London, which grant exemption from the tools that were normally being charged there.

And so paradoxically, we only know about these tolls because in a special case, the king says you don't have to pay them, with the implication that normally you did. So Athelbald must have had people who were on the spot in London, ready to jump up whenever a ship appeared. and say, hang on a minute, you've got to pay up this much to me for the king.

Right, so he really knew what he was doing. And so London Week, it really thrives for quite some time, doesn't it? And sort of expands quite rapidly, does it? It does. It starts off around about the year 600 on a pretty modest scale. It expands considerably and quite rapidly in the last 30 or so years of the 7th century and even more so as you go into the 8th century. So its real heyday is from about 670 to... maybe the late 8th century.

So it's at its biggest then. It remains important after that, but it seems to have become a bit more dispersed, a bit more broken up. It's rather hard to get a handle on exactly where it stops and starts in the late 8th and 9th century. clearly thought it was important, but archaeologically its footprint is a little bit harder to pin down. So could that be more about the evidence we have, do you think? Or do you think that is a real change, or is it just that we haven't found it yet?

Well, I think it's a real change, but I think that the evidence is there. Overall, there is a reasonable amount of material from London in the late 8th and early 9th century. It's just much more spread out. instead of being concentrated in this area from roughly Trafalgar Square to Lincoln's Inn Fields, which is where the core of...

earlier Londonwick was. We've got stuff as far afield as the Palace of Westminster, Downing Street, up to the edge of the city of London. So that's an area of a good couple of miles. And what I think we need to imagine is instead of our kind of... permanent car boot sale. We've now got a whole landscape with little clumps of cars or vans or whatever it is doing their business with a bit of open land in between.

So, yeah, that's a really good point, isn't it? That this isn't something that's centrally planned as such. It's more organic, I suppose. Yeah, no, that's a very good point. I think that London is much more organic. I think there is... input into it from the Mercian kings, from the Kentish kings earlier on, but that I think the actual growth is really left in the hands of the people coming in to build, perhaps other landowners. I think it is very much organic. I think that's right.

Now, we're going to move forward a little bit again to later on in the 9th century where another person comes into the picture because according to the historical records in 886... Alfred the Great gets involved in London. Can you tell us about what happens and what we know about that? I can, except that it's rather...

complicated question because we don't know exactly what Alfred does in London. The tricky thing is that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle talks about how he comes in and the word they use in Old English is yeseta. He does this. to London. And it could mean something like establish, as in he sort of recreates a settlement, or it could mean something like he restores it, he maybe rebuilds the walls, he reorganises the military, something like that.

translation of Asa, who was active at about the same time, he translates this word as restoravit, as restored. So he's thinking about how for definitely redoing something in London. Now, the texts don't go much further than that. What we can see from the archaeology... is that London was undergoing redevelopment at about this time. It had definitely started earlier than that. London, within the walls of Roman London, had seen more development, more activity since...

about the middle of the 9th century. And so Alfred was coming along when there was already this incipient settlement, and he... may have reorganized it, relayed out some of the streets, perhaps reorganized the way the walls were being manned, because of course the Roman walls enclosed a much larger area than this whole settlement.

So it would have taken quite a bit of effort to try and keep those up to scratch and keep them manned if the Vikings ever showed up. What we do know Alfred did in 1886, other than actually restoring the city, is that he then hosts a kind of meeting in London where... All the English who were not under Viking control swear allegiance to him. And then at that event, he hands over control of the city.

to this character called Aildurman Ethelred of the Mercians, who of course is now one of Alfred's sort of subordinates. So it's still very much Alfred's city, but now it's being looked after by this character from Mercia. really just reaffirming the long-standing connection between the Midland King of Mercia and London.

So this meeting is a crucial demonstration of the status Alfred's got. He's calling himself King of the Angles and Saxons because the Mercians thought they'd been Angles. The West Saxons called themselves Saxons. Crucially, London is chosen for this partly because... it's got this Roman history of centrality, but also because it's now a three-way frontier city. You've got Mercia to the north.

You've got Wessex on the south bank of the Thames. And then you've also got, just across the River Lee, in what's now the Docklands, so about a mile east of London, the Vikings. So within sight of Viking territory, he's... giving this big finger to them basically saying that we the English are now all aligned against you. We're a single block and and here we're making a stand.

And that's a really good point because for a few decades before this, Alfred really is very heavily involved in this sort of fight against the Vikings, against the Great Army especially. So how much of a threat were the Vikings? Vikings to London at that point in time, do you think? In 886 specifically, probably not quite as big a threat as they had been. There are references to the Vikings coming to London, even...

apparently occupying London for a period in the run-up to this, in the period from the 870s into the early 880s. So yes, they had been a very real threat. There had even been a Viking camp at one stage in Fulham, so just a little down the road. river from London, there was a settlement that might not have been unlike Torxey or Repton. I don't think there's any solid evidence for exactly where or what form that might have taken in Fulham.

But yes, the Vikings had been there. The Vikings had been a serious threat to London. So it was no easy maths to deal with. And you mentioned these different kingdoms earlier on. And I just wanted to ask you about some of the coins and all the events of the 870s, because they're quite interesting and telling about this relationship, especially between Mercia and West. Essex and Alfred. Can you say something about that?

Yeah, the coins are hugely important. And of course, we've now got the Watlington Horde, which has added a lot of new information to this picture that we've got. The coins are really crucial because they show us what's going on.

Probably at London. One of the frustrating things about the coins is they never actually say made at London. That's not the way they do things at this time. It just gives you the name of the king and of the moneyer. So it's a somewhat subjective process deciding which ones come from where. But assuming we're... about which ones we think come from London. What they show us is the interaction of West Saxon, Alfredian...

authority with that of the Mercians. So we see Alfred and Cherwolf II sharing control over the mint in the mints of London. The Bunniers would make coins for both kings at various... times. And they'd eventually, of course, start making them just for Alfred. So the classic what's called London monogram coins, which are these beautiful, beautiful pennies of Alfred, which adopt a Roman style bust for him. and a monogram for London, Londonia in Latin on the reverse.

These come from about the year 880. So those are the kind of climax of this process where London has gone from being a Mercian city under West Saxon influence to a kind of condominium where... Alfred is recognized as an overlord alongside the Mercian king through to a place where Alfred is definitely in charge even though we know there is still a Mercian ruler who's calling himself ruler of London, Alfred is now recognised as Top Dog.

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In this time, so if we go towards the end of the 9th century and into the 10th century, what do we know about life in London at that point and the settlement and the people who lived there? Do we know much at that point? The main thing I'd stress is that London at this stage was very small. It was about a kilometre in length, which is to say about...

two-thirds length of the city, the Roman-walled area along the Thames, which is roughly from St Paul's to the Tower of London. It's very small, and it only extends a little bit into the city. probably only got a few thousand people living there. Its economic horizons are much more localized than those of Lundinwick could be. And Lundinwick was trading with places all over Northern Europe. Alfredian London and early 10th century London is...

much more focused on trade within southern England, up the Thames in particular. So it's... in some ways a much less impressive place for all as it's now situated within the Roman walls. But in relative terms, in the context of the urban landscape as it was at that time, it was hugely important. It was one of the key strongholds in southern England. It was one of the most important mint places, despite all of these shortcomings compared to its earlier development.

And within the city, the buildings would have been mostly... quite small they would have been wooden they would have been full of lice and mice and rats they wouldn't have been very nice to live in it wouldn't have been so very dissimilar from what you see if you go to say the jorvik viking center and you go around and you see what these these buildings excavated that york would have

looked like. London would have been, it would have been smelly, it would have been dirty, it would have been a city in much the same way. We do know that there were some... Some grander buildings started to appear at this stage. In fact, because one of them, the roof, parts of the roof of one of them, were used to shore up the banks of the Thames.

in the late 10th century when they were trying to reclaim land from the river, they took bits of buildings and ships and used them, rammed them down into the ground to try and hold back the water. And thanks to this and the waterlogged conditions that resulted, we've still got chunks of this building's roofing. And so we can see something that would have been an absolutely spectacular edifice, not entirely unlike a stave church in Norway, you know, several tiers.

of wooden beams going up and up over the ground. Then we can contrast that with a window, though it's a strong word for it, that was discovered in a wall. plank from a much humbler building which is basically just a small triangular hole carved into a plank that's what you looked out of at your big stave church like building if you were one of the

less well-off people in early 10th century London. It was a place of contrasts and filth, but also a place of investment and royal power if you were moving in the right circles. So that was really, you know, if you were going to live in London, you'd have to have a good reason either for your trade or business or whatever, presumably.

Or warfare is the other important thing, especially we know that in the late 9th century, London is a very, very real part of the military arrangements Alfred puts in place against the Vikings, that the Londoners go out and fight, they join up. other towns and armies to go out and fight, not always terribly well, but they certainly give it their all. Yeah. And we're going to move a bit further ahead again, I think, just to talk about some more of those threats from the Vikings. If we go...

towards the 11th century. So it's around the turn of the millennium. Now, that's where there's quite a few events that are quite crucial. And I wanted to ask you especially about the events around the year 1016. So this is the year when... where the Unready dies and eventually Knut ends up as the King of England. What sort of role did London play in those events? London plays a very big role in these events. It had become...

Not quite a capital, it's not a permanent base of government, but it had become a sort of de facto centre of Ethelred the Unready's regime by that point, and particularly of his military... organization and of his financial organization. Now, the financial organization was crucial at this point because there were lots of armies in place all the time. Those needed to be supplied, and they were supplied by people raising money. So there was a lot of cash coming in just to keep the...

armies and fleets active, particularly these mercenary Vikings that Aethelwade had hired on in 1012 to fight for him against the Vikings. The other crucial thing about London is that... It was where at least some of these major tribute payments to the Viking attackers were being... gathered and then handed over. So there's a lot of money flowing into London. It's also still got these huge Roman walls, which are now...

maintained, possibly even sort of restored to some degree. Its population has gone up and it's one of the only places in the kingdom which successfully fends off the Vikings, fends them off. Every single time they come, in fact, the Vikings never managed to take London militarily in the course of Ethelred's reign, despite trying... four or five times and they try most vigorously in the the years around 1016. We know that when Ethelred dies

in London in that year, the Vikings are heading for the city. So this is in late April, and he's buried in St Paul's Cathedral, very unusually. He hadn't necessarily planned for that. And it might be a reflection both of how important London itself is. had become, but also of how important the military organisation, the faction based within London had become as well. Because what we hear is that after Ethelred has died, there's a struggle.

within England as to who will be the new king. And what ends up happening is Æthelred's oldest surviving son, Edmund Ironside, launches a claim to power against King Canute. But we know that there were some others in England who had wanted to recognise Canute as king. What seems to have happened is that the Londoners...

are the ones who support Edmund. They're the ones who want to push on and fight. And so once they've made their case and Edmund has managed to assert his command over the rest of England... apart from Cnut's army, of course, we see London being targeted by Cnut as the epicentre of the English resistance to him. So there's two very, very ferocious attacks on the city.

which again, London endures. And then there's a string of battles that start around London and progress off into the northern part of Essex, which eventually lead to Edmund being defeated. So London is really at the heart of these... developments, they're absolutely crucial to the political military outcome of what's happening in the mid-1010s and also crucial in establishing the precedent almost of London being a player in itself.

in saying who should be king and what they should do. And then...

After this point, so when eventually Knut ends up as the victorious king, does London stay important to him or is his attention elsewhere? It does remain important, but almost despite... canute's wishes we it looks like canute seems to have been rather keener on on winchester and canterbury uh it's under canute for example that the the relics of this character called saint alphair who was the an archbishop of canterbury that actually gets

killed, he's pelted to death with ox bones by a bunch of drunk Vikings at Greenwich and after he's killed they take his body to St Paul's and he becomes a sort of rallying point of English resistance and English pride. In the early 1020s, Knut decides to remove the body of Alfea and take it from London to Canterbury Cathedral. So we hear about how this is undertaken in a later text from Canterbury as a kind of heist.

with a whole bunch of Canute's men stationed around the city to try and fend off any English resistance. They do it on the quiet so no one will see. There's real fear of what might happen if this had gone awry. Having said all of that, London remains so important that Canute can't afford just to let it go. So he bases some of his key troops in the city. It's under him that London continues to be... very important in terms of raising money and minting coinage.

And, of course, it's just got lots of people in it and lots of money in it. And he's, to some extent, dependent on those focal points of resources that had already been established before he came along. So does London grow in size? Does it really become a bigger city at this point? It does, yes. Yes, it's definitely growing. You can see from about the late 10th century, about the 980s, 990s, you can start to see...

extension of the area within the Roman Wall that's being settled. You can also see Southwark.

across the river being developed at about this time as well. And you can see that about the year 100, London Bridge is rebuilt in wood for probably the first time since the Roman period. So yes, London is definitely growing. By the time you get... to about the Norman conquest in the middle of the 11th century, it looks like there's now a relatively small area within the walled area of London that is not...

under some sort of development by that stage. And even most of the street system that we now know of from the modern city of London is laid out at around this time. History has made this world of ours. I'd like to tell you about my show, Dan Snow's History Hit, that really explains everything that's ever happened. The origin stories of the cities we inhabit, or of what's in our kitchen cupboards. Why we've always been drawn to dictators.

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It does, yes. William the Conqueror comes over and, of course, wins the Battle of Hastings. But what's crucial, where London comes in, is what happens next. Because he goes on a long, rather circuitous march round through Kent. which is aiming at coming to London. So what he does is approach it from the south, and he sends a group of knights to try and come at it through Southwark. They are fought off by the Londoners, and this is something that the Norman...

chroniclers really emphasise about London, that it's big, it's rich, it's well defended, and it's belligerent. So it's actually very much like the profile of the city that developed under Ethelred, that we think nowadays of cities as places that are, you know... soft and weak and not particularly great in military terms but

This was emphatically not the case in the early Middle Ages. In the 10th and 11th century, cities, or at least cities like London, were the hard points in resistance because they not only had the defences, they had the people and they had the resources to use them. So London would have been a very tough nut to crack if William had actually had to try and do so.

What he does is take the bulk of his army and he heads off further down the Thames. He crosses at Wallingford. This is now getting into November, December 1066. And so he ends up coming towards London from the north. Now, there's an attempted new regime being set up in London at this time under this character called Edgar the Affling, who was the great nephew of Edward the Confessor.

And he's basically a boy. He's a teenager at this stage. So there's not a great deal of real hope being put in this, I don't think. But there are a number of major... aristocrats and bishops who are in London trying to hedge their bets on whether Edgar's claim might be the one to follow. And what happens is that as they see William and the size of his army coming in towards them, they gradually dribble out of

London and surrender to him such that eventually the whole city is, well, all the major players in the city have gone. And so when William does show up, there is a... preparation for siege, but it looks like there is no actual major fighting in London. They basically give up.

And William then comes into the city. He's crowned king in Westminster Abbey in 1066, just outside London. And he also, around then, maybe even... sort of the day of, day after his coronation, he grants a very unusual privilege, a writ, to the Londoners, which guarantees their rights, their property.

which is not something he did for many other English groups. Again, a bit like Cnut, he recognised that London needs to be on site. He's got to have it under control, partly through... building the Tower of London and another castle on the west side of the city, which he also starts to do almost immediately, but also through getting the Londoners themselves on side.

Okay, so that's got some really good insights into these sort of higher level events and the political situation. But what about the actual Londoners themselves and how they live their lives and how life in the town is actually organised? We know that in the 930s or so, there's this entity called the Peace Guilds, and these were...

units of 100 men, we know that there were a number of them, but not quite how many of them, potentially thousands of people were involved in this, who were the people that belonged to London. And these are referred to in a set of statutes that the Peace Guild themselves...

put together under King Athelstan, who ruled from 924 to 939. And these are a wonderful, wonderful set of information for telling us about how this group wanted to try and assert themselves and deal with other communities around them basically they're claiming legal autonomy in the same way as other communities in Anglo-Saxon England at the period, which meant that they said, hey, we should be able to go and pursue...

catch and potentially kill or punish anyone who wrongs us, anyone who steals from us. We want to go and chase them across the home counties, catch them, and then the first person who lands a blow will get a reward. encouraging the Londoners to mount up and head off in hot pursuit of people who wronged them. So it's almost meant as a...

You know, they may well have done this, but I think the threat of them possibly doing this was more important. It was saying that London and the Londoners were a force to be reckoned with. Now...

What's interesting is that this document is not just everyone who lives in the city. It's actually only some people who live in the city. We know that it includes people who are rich. We know it includes people who are poor. We know it includes women because widows who don't have enough money to pay their normal subscription. fee get to be a member for free. We also know that they had their own property.

They had their own money. They were a very organized operation. And it gives us a flavor of just how structured and organized Londoners were. And this might have been the basis for their military organization in earlier times. It might also have something to do with the...

some of the institutions that still survive today, which we hear about emerging in the 11th century, like the husting, the house thing, the house meeting, which was the sort of upper chamber of medieval London's government. We know that this existed by...

the early years of the 11th century and that it was an important entity for deciding conflicts within the city. So we can see that already the Londoners are thinking of themselves as a legal... administrative entity in the same way as a shire or... as other towns, though they do seem to have had a slightly bigger, grander conception of what they could do and what their say-so meant. So, for instance, the standard measure of weight for gold and silver...

in late Anglo-Saxon England seems to have been the standard of the husting, the London standard that was promulgated from the city. So it gives us the flavour of just how important London was within the kingdom more widely. and how the Londoners themselves really had quite a high opinion of themselves.

Well, that's a great way to end this, I think. Of course, this isn't the end of the story of London at all. And the medieval development is extremely important. But just for this, just for winding up, up now I just wanted to ask you if

Somebody is in London today and they wanted to see some of the Saxon London. Where, if you go around the city today, where can you get a flavour or a sense of any sort of traces of that Saxon London today? I'd say that the best sense of it is actually from the walking that you do because the streets, the street names in the city...

A great many of them go back to the Anglo-Saxon period. We, in fact, have a remarkable coin that was only found a couple of years ago, which is completely unique because it actually has not just a mint name, but a street name. It tells us that it was made by a money called Eardwald on estuary. cheap, East cheap, in London.

So we know that that street was already there and called East Cheap in the 1030s when this coin was made. You could walk down there and feel a certain sense of connection with these moniers. We know we're doing things there. want to see actual stuff and actual buildings it's rather harder because there have been

hundreds of years of fires and bombings and rebuildings and God knows what else is going on in London. So there's very, very little still above ground. There is, to my knowledge, just, well, there are the Roman walls, of course, which were still being used. in the Anglo-Saxon period.

But there's only one building which contains traces that might go back to this period. And this is the church of All Hallows by the Tower or All Hallows Barking, which is, as the name suggests, right beside the Tower of London. No one actually knew about the Anglo-Saxon elements of this building until the Blitz, when part of the building was damaged and they found in the repairs that there was this archway.

in the church tower that might well go back to the 11th century or even earlier. Having said that there are so few actual standing buildings, there's an awful lot of archaeological material that's been found. For all that London is very built up, there's actually been a huge amount of archaeological work.

done on a kind of pinprick-like basis over the years. So overall, there's actually a pretty good profile of what London looked like archaeologically. And things that have been found in the course of those excavations can now be seen. some of them in the British Museum, lots of them in the Museum of London. There are some wonderful bits of early medieval stone carving with inscriptions on them in All Hallows by the Tower and in a couple of other London parish churches.

So my advice would be to take a wander around the city. go up onto the Roman walls, go and have a coffee at All Hallows Barking, and then end the day by going to the Museum of London or the British Museum. That sounds like an excellent plan. So thank you so much for that. And Rory, that's been absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much. much for joining me here today. My pleasure.

So we've been talking about Rory's research on his book, The Citadel of the Saxons, The Rise of Early London, which is published by Bloomsbury. And Rory, you're on social media, aren't you? If people want to hear more from you and follow you on Twitter, I think.

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