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GS#347 July 21, 2012 Exercise physiologist Bob Forman talks about the importance of exercise and hydration to playing better golf. Our Short Game Academy kicks off with John asking Terry Koehler about shots from inside 60 yards. Paul wants advice on hitting from different types of sand.

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Speaker 1

Golf Smarter number three hundred and forty seven, published on August twenty one, twenty twelve.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

When you're out there in the heat, the body's trying to dissipate the heat, and that's why you sweat when the humidity is up. And when you combine the heat and the humidity, it forms the heat index. And I mean you can have kind of serious days even when the temperatures are in the upper eighties. If the humidity is very high, that can raise the heat index to levels that can be somewhat dangerous. And what happens is the higher the heat index goes, the tougher it is

for that sweat to evaporate. And when the sweat evaporates, that's when the body kind of cools itself. So because that can't happen efficiently, the internal body temperature starts to go up. And that's when you get into stuff like I say, the heat cramps, and at some point you may even stop sweating because the mechanism's shutting down and you don't want to even get to that point. And that's why it's important to make sure that you start drinking early and drink often throughout the round.

Speaker 1

Increased focus through hydration and our Short Game Academy.

Speaker 4

This is Golf.

Speaker 2

Smarter sharing tips and insights from golfers and golf professionals to help lower your score. It's worked for your host Fred.

Speaker 1

Green Hey, Before we get into our interview with Bob Forman on how to increase your focus through better hydration, I want to let you know that Golf Smarter is taking a brief two week hiatus because I'm moving thing. After living and working in this home for more than twenty years, my wife and I are finally downsizing. So when I return with a new episode scheduled for the week of September tenth, we'll either hear more from Bob Foreman or comedian Paul meyer Hogg talking about his traveling

comedy golf Troup The Hackers. I've also scheduled Jeff Mangum, recognized as one of the world's foremost putting experts and the longtime putting guru of golf Smarter to join us for a couple of shows right after that. I appreciate your patience and I hope you will continue to download the show when we come back. Now, Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast, Bob.

Speaker 3

Thanks Fred.

Speaker 1

How are you.

Speaker 3

I'm doing good.

Speaker 1

I'm doing well and love to talk about fitness. Golf fitness seems to be one of those one of those items in the golfer's bag that gets forgotten about on a regular basis.

Speaker 3

Yeah, definitely, And it's definitely a spoke on the golf development wheel that a lot of people don't really think about, don't realize, aren't aware, but it's a significant spoke to help them better their games. Yeah.

Speaker 1

I love that analogy of that metaphor of using it as a spoke, because you know, part of the wheel is going to break down if you don't have everything strong exactly.

Speaker 3

I mean, you know, with the skill piece, you know, the lessons that golfers take, the equipment piece, I mean, those are all important. Those of all especially the equipment

has gotten better over the years. But you know, I usually correlate that to somebody who goes out and buys a used car and the car does run all that well, and goes out and spends a lot of money to put four new tires on it, thinking it's going to make the car run better, But you're still stuck with that mechanism that's driving a car, and that's the engine. In this case, it's the golfer himself. And most golfers don't realize that it's their own bodies that are holding them back from better golf.

Speaker 1

So let's not assume that people are going to start losing weight and go on diets just so they can improve their golf. But you don't have to have the Tiger Woods type of body, the Olympic style body specimen to be an efficient golfer, do you.

Speaker 3

Oh, No, definitely not. And I think a lot of people, you know, are kind of reluctant to get into golf fitness programs because they feel that, you know, geezo, I got to run a five K do I have to lift my body weight? And it's really not about that, and it's really yeah, I mean, it's really about kind of identifying where the deficiencies are the anatomical deficiencies, the

muscle tightness, the muscle weakness, and the muscle imbalance. And then once you identify those to target an exercise program to correct those. And when you do that, you're going to allow the golfer to move more efficiently and therefore they're going to be able to swing the better golf club.

Speaker 1

So that was my next question is what will the golfer notice once they start correcting those inefficiencies.

Speaker 3

Well, I mean within a relatively short period of time, within six weeks, four to six weeks. Really, it really depends on how consistent they are with the program. I mean, obviously, if they're not going to do it, they're not going to see results. I mean, you've got to put a little effort into this. You know, in the society that we're in where everybody wants it yesterday, you know, it

takes a little effort. But if they stay pretty consistent with their programs, like I say, in a relatively short period of time, they're going to feel more flexibility, they're going to have more range of motion, they're going to be making better ball contact distance and we all know distance is still king in golf. They're going to be able to get down the fairway another ten to fifteen

twenty yards. I mean, even some of the eighty year olds that I'm working with in a relatively short period of time, they come back all exciting the fact that they're now, you know, starting to drive the ball past their other golfing buddies. So I mean, you're going to find these results fairly quickly, and it really all depends on your compliance with the exercise.

Speaker 1

Program, right right. I don't want to correct anything you're saying. But here at Golf Smarter, we're more focused. We're not focused on distance. We're focused more on accuracy. Like we like to say, I would much rather have ten feet closer than ten yards farther any day, you know so, But so it's beyond that. I didn't want to say, well, I mean, everybody loves distance, but come on, folks, get over it.

Speaker 3

But I mean, you know, the other thing is if you have deficiencies, and if you combine those with poor swing mechanics. In a lot of instances, the anatomical deficiencies are causing those poor swing mechanics. In some cases it's just bad habits. But when you combine those two, the inconsistency of which you're swinging the golf club is not going to afford you the accuracy that you talk about

and or the distance. So once you get into a program in you start correcting those deficiencies, your ball contact is going to improve tremendously.

Speaker 1

And I want to establish that you don't come to this as a PGA certified instructor. You give us a little of your history so we can establish your credibility on why we're talking about fitness with you.

Speaker 3

Well, I have a master's degree in exercise physiology, which means I studied the effects of exercise on the body. And I've been in the fitness field for just over thirty years, a lot with people with low back issues, and I mean with golf gosh, I mean, that's number one in terms of injury. So that's helped me work with a lot of golfers to get them back out

on the golf course. And then back in two thousand and six went down to the World Golf Fitness Summit that was presented by the titleist performance folks Greig Rose and Dave Phillips, and the three day workshop was phenomenal. I mean, it was one of those wow moments. And I think Golf Week magazine even said this now has become golf's new obsession, and it basically changed the game overnight, and you know, it introduced a whole new spoke of

the wheels we talked about. And so I came back and I run a medical fitness center in North Carolina and started a little golf fitness academy and putting some of those the things that we learned to practice, and I was seeing that these people that were coming through the program were coming back with some real positive feedback. So I went back and got certified with TPI, and I've also have gotten certifications through Flexor, which is a

neuromuscular type program for golf brain body type connection. And then I've also studied a lot of Gary Gray stuff, who has now affiliated himself with Nike, and Gary does movement science, sees up I believe in Michigan does a lot with biomechanics and phenomenal stuff. So I mean, it's real good stuff. I love it my passion and I just love to see golfers improve. And my biggest thrill is getting people back out on the golf course who have been injured.

Speaker 1

You brought up lower back issues, and I've talked about that. We've talked about TPI a lot. I've actually had many TPI instructors from all over the United States on the Golf Smarter podcast and just fascinated by what they bring to the table. But when you talk about lower back issues, I'm someone who has suffered from that and have tried to do pilates and yoga, and I do yoga on

a regular basis. But what I've found personally is that my biggest issues are sitting because I basically sit at my desk doing computer work all day and sleeping, and I have more pain in the morning when I wake up before I do my stretching exercises than I do it any other time. And also I've noticed that after I finished a round of golf, I feel better. It's to me, it's it's not golf that's wiping out my back. You know, it's not the the left to right lateral

movement that that's hurting me. It's the you know, the bad position in bed and on my chair. And I've even spent a lot of money on chairs.

Speaker 3

Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, I mean there's two things that general lead up to discomfort or injury, and low back is very prevalent obviously across the board. I mean with all types of golfers, amateurs, professionals alike, men and women, And I mean physically, there are specific deficiencies in the muscle groups. Like mostly in guys, it deals with tight hamstrings. You know, can you touch your toes and if you can't, it means your hamstrings are tight.

And that's one of the biggest factories that lead up to bad backs because of the relationship that the hamstrings have to the hip bone, and then how it pulls the hip bone out of balance and that causes a straightening of the lumbar spine and that puts more pressure on the disks and so on and so on and so on. And women we tend to see more tightness in the hip flexors, which are muscles in the front part of the hip, and that kind of does the reverse.

It pulls the hip forward and causes more arching of the lower back. And you see a lot of s posture type address positions in women when they're standing over the ball. It's more prevalent in women. Those two can physically cause problems with the lower back. Now, When you combine that with swing faults like reverse spine, like early extension, where the hips are moving towards the ball, like s posture, as we talked about, that's a perfect storm for back issues.

And it's kind of interesting how you talked about sitting. Excuse me, I wrote a whole article and I've got this whole workshop about the anatomy of a sitter and how sitting impacts your golf game because when you sit, the body adapts to the positions that you place it in most of the time. And we're seeing a lot of sea posture these days, even in younger golfers. I mean, it used to be kind of an old golfers disease.

You know, as you got older, you just tended to kind of lose your posture and you got a little more bode in the upper back, and so you would kind of hunch over the ball. But we're seeing that now a lot with younger golfers because of the computer and being over the computer all day and when you sit over a computer, and the same thing with dentists. I mean, all my dentists have ce posture because they're

hunched over their patients. So what happens there is you tighten the muscles in the front part of the body, in the chest area. You elongate the muscles in the upper back. And when you shorten muscles, you tighten, and when you elongate, you weaken, So you start to get that rounded shoulder posture and you take that out on the golf course. In the lower body, when you sit, you basically shorten your hamstrings and you shorten your hip flexers,

So there's the dynamic two. You also elongate your gluts, which are your butt muscles, and that's really where you get a lot of power from in the golf swing, and you shorten the quad muscles in the front part of your thigh. So the fact that you're tightening your hip flexers and your and your hamstrings are going to set you up anatomically for back issues. And then when you go out there and start swinging the golf club, you know, in many cases that can add too. In

your case, it's probably loosening you up. So you're feeling a little bit better after the after the golf game, but at some point that may come back to bite you.

Speaker 1

Oh it does, it's not. At some point. It's a regular thing. I also have noticed that when I remember to lower no, to quiet my lower body on my swing, because I've I've had an issue with the sway left and right sway on my swing. But when I remember to quiet my lower body those rounds, I feel much better as well than in my back.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And you know, talking about Gary Gray, he has this thing. A lot of times. We find tightness in the mid back and the thoracic spot and the same thing again because a lot of people sit and they're hunched over stuff or just from inactivity, and when you're tight in the mid back, and again I see this a lot. What happens is rotation in the upper body is supposed to come mainly from the thoracic spine the

mid back, not the lower back. A lot of people think that their rotation is going to come from their lower back, and the lower back really is geared more for flextion front to back, and it's more geared for stability, not mobility. So when your mid back is tight and you're bringing the club back, it's only going to go back so far. In order for you to get the club back further, you're going to have to recruit the lower back and again, the lower back just doesn't like that.

So over time, that's just going to put stress to the lower back and that's going to add to the issues as well. So that's still a whole nother component that you have to consider.

Speaker 1

Sure, very interesting. You tell me about you You said articles you you have articles online that you've written about these topics.

Speaker 3

Yeah. I've put together a kind of an educational golf fitness website. So there's a bunch of articles on there, again based on my experiences working in the fitness field, and uh, you know, just the stuff that I've learned through TPI and through Gary Gray and through the Flexor program. And it's at can I mention the website?

Speaker 1

No, no, don't do that, all right now you can.

Speaker 3

It's the w w W.

Speaker 1

No, it's not. There's no doubt. You don't need that anymore.

Speaker 4

Go ahead, Oh you know, yeah, you really don't.

Speaker 3

Golf golffit Carolina dot com. There's one F and one T, so it's like golf it Carolina.

Speaker 1

Oh, I'm glad you you clarified that. Golfit Carolina le f I T Carolina dot com. Okay, golf it Carolina dot com. And I will definitely put links in our show notes as well, so that people just get into golf Smarter dot com and they go right to it, or go ahead, go to golf a Carolina dot com. Just make sure you say golf it. So the article that you wrote that I read that, I just like, of course, why aren't we talking about this is about hydration, is about making sure that when it's hot outside and

you're playing, that you take care of yourself. Let's let's talk about that for a minute.

Speaker 3

M Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, with the summer here, you know, one of the things that a lot of people don't think about is the heat and the humidity

and being down south there. And actually just kind of you know, with the PGA event that just took place at Kiwa, you know, made me think about what the golfers were going to face out there, especially being a little further south and you know, in the environment, and how much it can take a toll out of your game if you're not really prepared to play in that environment. So you know, that kind of led me to write

the article. But it's really key to get yourself to acclimate to the weather conditions, whether it be the heat and humanity or the cold so that your body can function more efficiently, but especially I think in more of the warmer environments where it really kind of takes a toll and and your golf game can suffer if you if you're not prepared to play in those conditions, or if you don't kind of plan for you know, keeping hydrated and stuff like that. And like I say, you'll suffer, not fun.

Speaker 1

No describe suffer. I mean what are we talking about here that you're not going to make it through your round? Or when you say suffer, what are you thinking of?

Speaker 3

Well, I mean getting into things like you know, heat cramps and heat exhaustion and heat stroke. Not fun stuff. I mean hydration is key, and even small percentages of dehydration can really have an impact on the way you function, the muscle contractions, the brain, body nerve pathway and the

function you know, the way that functions. Uh So, I mean hydration is vital when you're out there, especially when you're trying to perform an activity, because that what happens is it kind of takes the fluid out of the blood, and your blood becomes very discussed and then that causes your heart to work harder and that can lead to some you know, more serious stuff that you don't want to have to happen. So it's important to make sure

that you're drinking water. And really that's that's the best thing that you can that you can drink while you're outside in an activity is just plain old water. If you tend to sweat a lot, you know, that's the time to maybe start reaching for an electrolyte replacement drink to help get some of the minerals the potassium and the magnesium, the calcium and other essential minerals back into your system that you're going to lose through your sweat. But it can really make or break your game.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, I think that for me when I've I've had the situation where the wheels fall off the wagon. You know, you get to the fifteen sixteenth hole and all of a sudden, nothing is working and you're starting to ache and everything is bad. I've found that when I hydrate throughout my round that that happens a lot less.

Speaker 3

Yeah. I mean, you know, when you're out there in the heat, the body's trying to dissipate the heat, and that's why you sweat. When the humidity is up, and when you combine the heat and the humidity, it forms the heat index. And I mean you can have kind of serious days even when the temperatures are in the upper eighties. If the humidity is very high, that can raise the heat index to levels that can be somewhat dangerous. And what happens is the higher the heat index goes,

the tougher it is for that sweat to evaporate. And when the sweat evaporates, that's when the body kind of cools itself. So because that can't happen efficiently, the internal body temperature starts to go up, and that's when you get into stuff like I say, the heat cramps. And at some point, you know, you may even stop sweating because the mechanism is shutting down, and you know you can. You don't want to even get to that point, and that's why it's important to make sure that you start

drinking early and drink often throughout the round. I mean. The other thing that you can also do to prepare yourself is nowadays, you know, with the sweat wicking materials that are coming out, you know, polyester's making a comeback through the sweat wicking apparel, and that helps draw that moisture away from the body and helps to dissipate it into the environment so that it can keep you cooler

while you're playing around the golf. So that's definitely an advantage that we have nowadays that you know, is popular and will probably continue to gain popularity as the science gets better in that regards.

Speaker 1

So, even if you do sweat a lot, having the sweat stay on your body is bad as opposed to it dissipating through the wicking material.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the reason you sweat is that you want to be able to have that sweat evaporate, and when it does, it cools the body. Okay, So it does that through various processes. You know, the wind. If there's a wind that's whipping around, that helps draw heat away from the body. The sweat that rating helps draw heat away from the body.

So if that heat index, especially when the humidity goes up and the moisture in the air is higher than the moisture on your skin, then the evaporation rate decreases, so the sweat basically just stays on your skin instead of getting evaporated, and that's when the cooling mechanism tends to become compromised to the point where you can get into those those heat disorders.

Speaker 1

Okay, I'm gonna throw out a couple words here and I'll let you riff on them. Right, I'll just toss these out and you give me assessment. Good bad, don't do that, try that enhance that. Okay, So you talked about water. Okay, yeah, room temperature or iceed.

Speaker 3

They say that the colder the better because it tends to get absorbed faster into the gut.

Speaker 1

Interesting. Okay, the electrolyte drinks your favorite.

Speaker 3

I like the electrolyte replacement tablets. There's one out there called Noon and Uun. The reason being is that you know, the electrolyte drinks are getting better and cutting back on the sugar and the calories, but you just don't know

which ones are. Which the electrolyte tablets are. You buy them in a tube and basically they're like alcacelsor you buy a sixteen ounce bottle of water and you kind of PLoP the tablet into the bottle and it fizzes, and they come in different flavors and it gives you the electrolyte replacements that the other sports drinks offer, but there's only six six or seven calories per tablet, so per bottle and no sugar.

Speaker 1

Oh that's great tip, thank you. And you said they are flavored. But if you get non flavored because just prefer water, do they have them to just don't have any impact on the taste.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

Okay, we'll find that out. So we're going to google, and you you n while you answer my next question. And now I'm just throwing softballs at you because I have a feeling I know where this one's gonna go. Beer.

Speaker 3

Well, beer is a diuretic, so I mean it's gonna help to draw water out of your system. So I mean, again, you want to avoid becoming dehydrated. So not a good thing to have out in the golf course on a hot, humid dig you know, or at least not in excess, let's put it that way. But after around they go for it.

Speaker 1

And if you are going to have a beer with your buddies while you're playing, mix it up with water, do you know one after the other or just try to avoid it.

Speaker 3

Well, I mean, you know, like if they say everything in moderation, uh, you know, some of these guys out there that are pounding the beers, especially on the hot, humid days. It's probably not a good idea.

Speaker 1

Okay. By the way, uh noon noon, n U U N Optimal Hydration their websites down right now, but it is at n U U N dot com if anybody wants to look, and they have it available at Amazon and drugstore dot com. It's all over the place, So definitely look into that.

Speaker 3

H Cyclist started that stuff, or I should say it started in the cyclists bike bikers now and then then it got into runners, and now they're really pushing it to golfers. And uh, i'd say, I sweat a lot, and so you know, I've tried it, and you know, I've felt it really helps, especially like you say, in the back nine when when normally you start dragging. Uh, it's really helped me stay, you know, in the game.

Speaker 1

Nice.

Speaker 3

Nice to come out now with one that also has vitamins in it as well. Okay, vitamin waters and stuff.

Speaker 1

Yep, yep, yeah, all right, I'm gonna throw another one. Coffee.

Speaker 3

Coffee also is diuretic, so again it's kind of kind of draw water out of the system, so you gotta be careful with that I would put that with the beer category, you know, in moderation, don't go too crazy with it.

Speaker 1

Yeah. And and caffeine, I mean, even if you're drinking decaf or caffeine. But how about you know, like caffeinated sodas coke?

Speaker 3

I mean, yeah, I mean they're not you know, soda is in general, I don't really provide much in terms of minerals or vitamins or anything like that. And if you enjoy the taste, go for it. You know, there's not as much caffeine in those things, so you know, if that's what you prefer that.

Speaker 1

And and what about caffeine in it during a round of golf? I mean, is it gonna fire you up, it's gonna get you going, or is like just no impact at all?

Speaker 3

Well, you know, Fred, that really depends upon the individual.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 3

You know some people can can down a gallon of coffee and go to sleep, while some people, you know, can have a cup of coffee and they'd be up all night.

Speaker 1

I'll tell you, if I have a cup of coffee after ten am, I cannot. I can't go to sleep at night. Yeah, I mean I'm a decatch.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And it's gonna it's gonna get the system going. I mean, it's gonna get the heart rate up a little bit possibly again. And that affects people differently. I get heart palpitations if I have too much caffeine, So I mean, it does impact people differently. And you just got to kind of gauge for yourself, you know, how you react to stuff, like, you know, caffeine and beer and all that.

Speaker 1

And since we're talking about sweating and oversweating and whatnot, I have to throw this one out. I was watching the PGA Championship this year online. I was listening to their announcers. I wasn't doing it on television, and they brought up a tip that I'd never heard and I thought was absolutely wonderful and I wanted to make sure that I share it. And that was towel maintenance during

your round of golf. Towel towel maintenance. And what they were saying is make sure that you use one end of the towel for cleaning the ball in your club faces and the other end of the towel for wiping off your face in your hands.

Speaker 3

That's probably a good idea.

Speaker 1

I was like, oh my god, that's so simple. I've never even thought about that, and I have many times wiped my face with the muddy end of a towel.

Speaker 3

Well, if you're on national TV and you get money on your face, that probably wouldn't be too good.

Speaker 1

Big disgrace played all over the place. We will rock you mud on your I'm sorry, fascinating stuff. I appreciate your time, Bob, and again tell everyone to I will do this. Go to golfit Carolina dot com and if someone wants to come and see you, where are you specifically?

Speaker 3

I am in Greensboro, North Carolina or high Point, North Carolina, and I'm also down in North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. And I enjoy offering golf fitness seminars to clubs and organizations that don't charge anything for him.

Speaker 1

So, oh, it's nice of you.

Speaker 3

If anybody would like to offer.

Speaker 1

Then why am I paying so much to have you on the show. I don't know, Just kidding, Bob. I've really enjoyed speaking with you, and I've gotten a lot of really valuable information. Hopefully someone else has as well. Thanks so much for being on Golf Smarter.

Speaker 3

Well, I appreciate the opportunity anytime.

Speaker 1

Ooh hey, new music. That's right, because in just a moment we will bring on Terry Taylor in our inaugural score Zone Short Game Academy. But first and now, without further ado, i'd like to bring back Terry Taylor, CEO of score Golf and known on his blog as the Wedge Guy. Welcome to the Short Game Academy, Terry. It is great to have you back and to get this program started.

Speaker 4

Well, I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 5

It's always fun you're actually addressing a real question from a real reader or listener. I write my blog twice a week, and sometime quite often I'm making up topics just what I think is interesting today. But this is fun when somebody has an issue that I can hopefully help them through, and then everybody else can learn something too, hopefully well.

Speaker 1

And I won't take that personally that my questions aren't good enough in the podcast, but that's okay. I like get other questions as well because it gives me a completely different perspective and I like to hear what people are saying. So, just to help set this up and let everybody know, if you click on the score Short Game Academy button at golfsmarter dot com. You'll be able to submit your question to Terry, and then every question

that comes in I forward to Terry. Terry reviews every question. He'll respond to your questions, and if he thinks it's appropriate that it's a question that everybody will get something from, he'll pick one or two and we'll do them here on the Short Game Academy. And if Terry chooses your question, and I really have nothing to do with what he's choosing, I send them all. If he picks your question, you will receive a free I don't want to call it a wedge, a scoring club from a score forty one

to sixty one that'll be customized to your fit. And also you'll get a divit tool from golf Smarter so that when you more greens, you'll be able to fix your marks and become a better golf citizen. So let's get right to it and go to our first question that you've selected. This one's from John Shields of Davis, California, and he says, Terry, I'm a big fan of what you're doing over at score and he also comment said he's a longtime golf Smarter listener. Thank you, very much, John.

His question is about the fifty to sixty yard approach shot, which is the bane of my existence as well. He says, for some reason, this in between distance results in undue trepidation for me. Any shorter and I can easily pitch or bump up a shot, and longer is an easy three quarter wedge, but cannot figure out what the most reliable play is from fifty to sixty yards.

Speaker 5

Well, that's a shot that gives everybody a lot of trouble, John, That half wedge, the dreaded half wedge, as we call it. But there's a way to get around this, and it's learning a good technique. You indicated the three quarter wedge you're more comfortable with. Golfers should learn is how to

make a reliable half swing. When I say a half swing, what I mean is where your backswing position puts your hands roughly about opposite of your of your right armpit, so your your left arm is about parallel with the ground. It's not further back than that. And your hint, your hands do not hinge a lot, just a little bit. One of the things I think I mentioned in earlier broadcast is really go watch Steve Stricker going on YouTube and find videos as Steve Stricker and watch how simple

his swing is. But your your hands are halfway back to halfway through, so your follow through is again your hands end up about shoulder high, complete body turn. Take your take your sand wedge or your lob wedge, your gap wedge, and go out and just practice this half swing uh until you get it really grooved. Hit a lot of golf balls with this. You can go to a ball field or a vacant lot and with your own shag bag and do this, But you gotta hit a lot of shots to get the feel for this

half swing where you can rep implicate this reliably. Then go through the high loft clubs in your set and see what happens with the sixty degree with this half swing, what happens with the fifty six or fifty four, you know, whatever high loft clubs you're carrying. See what happens and how far the ball carries with each of these swings.

Then you can go out on the golf course. You can find out how far it's going to roll out with each of these swings, and with three or four of your high loft golf clubs and this one swing, you'll end up with five or six different shots you can hit with reliability and repeatability because you've practiced it

and you know what that half swing feels like. You can even dissect that further if you want, in these half swings by gripping down on the club a little further, which I talk about in my book The Score Method, which is available on score golf dot com for a free download of our book called The Score Method, and it really dives into the details of using your hand position on the grip to change how far the ball

all will fly. So with your full swing and these different hand positions and four or five clubs, you've got ten or twelve yardages. With your new half swing that you're learning and four or five clubs a couple of hand positions, you've got another eight or ten yards, and you'll find that you can dissect everything inside full swing, pitching wedge down to the grip down half sixty maybe a forty yard shot, and you can really dissect the

golf course. So practice that half swing, learn it, learn it, and just memorize it, and then use your different clubs with that half swing to get the different yardages you're after and.

Speaker 1

Always try to remember too to avoid that opportunity, right, I mean, like for me the chess match in golf, of playing from the pin backwards, I try to position myself so I don't put myself in a fifty to sixty yard shot. I really try to avoid that, which

means don't hit a driver. Fight need to if I can get myself, especially with the confidence that I've I've gotten using the score forty one sixty one wedges man, you put that forty six degree in my hands from one hundred and ten yards and I feel like I'm going to hit the stick. So especially on a par five, if I'm two hundred and fifty out, I know I want to go one hundred and forty. I don't want to hit it, you know, So I'm fifty yards out from the green, I don't want to take a long club.

Speaker 5

That's a very smart strategy for all golfers. If you find and I call it the go to shot, and it may be that you just have great confidence in your gap wedge, or you have great confidence in your peak club, but you'll find a yardage that you just know poat eighty nine or ninety four or one hundred and two or one hundred and ten. This is the yardage I feel really confident in. Don't always try to hit the ball as close to the green as possible.

And I mean even a good lesson from the US Amateur the other day, and the kid that won hit a six iron off the tee on this par four on the playoff hole. The other kid hit a driver over the green. That was the whole Arnold Palmer drove when he won his open there but at Cherry Heels. But this kid hit a six iron off the tee to like seventy eight yards and he knew that my sixty degree wedge and my three quarter swing I'm going to be somewhere around the hole, and he hit it

fifteen feet behind the whole nestles. He had a two putt to win, nestled down. Turned out the ball went in for birdie. But that's playing smart, that's playing two a yard ad. You know, I always tell the story about Zach Johnson. He did that at the Masters when he won. He played the par fives better than anybody and never went for one of them.

Speaker 4

In two.

Speaker 5

Know your game, have your go to shot, and learn that halfwage you're going to have that sometime. But if that three quarter wedge is a shot, you have a lot of confidence in will hit one less club on those par fives and leave it back at three quarter range.

Speaker 1

Absolutely interesting. I mentioned my playing with my nephew last week a little bit earlier in the show, and he is a big hitter. He's been playing all his life and is a low double digit handicap and easily can drive the ball close to three hundred yards. So we had one. But on the way to the golf course, he was telling me how how miserable he's become on

his short short game, the thirty forty yard shots. He just he's he has no confidence in it, and so he gets all freaked out and he just can't do it. And any time he lost his cool that day was on a short shot that he screwed up. It's the only time he lost it. And at one point there was a hole that was three hundred and three yards, so he took out his driver. I took out my three wood okay, and he put it within fifteen yards

of the green. He drove it really close. His second shot went ten yards and he still wasn't on the green because he just and I'm like, so, I said to myself, So I don't get it. Why would you put yourself in that position? He says, Wait, you gotta go for it, don't you. I'm like, okay, never mind.

Speaker 5

I won't get on that soapbucks about the way the kids play golf these days, but I see it all the time.

Speaker 4

They hit it a mile and shoot eighty five.

Speaker 5

Yeah, okay, so this sixty year old man just grills them by from forty yards behind him off the tee. They don't know how to hit golf shots. But we won't go there. We got a question, yeah, answer.

Speaker 1

Right, and we call that golf smarter. We call that golf smarter. Okay, that's right, all right. Second question, another one from California. Strangely enough that you did that. Did you know that you picked two questions from California?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Speaker 5

I didn't until I was just going through all the questions and trying to find two that I really thought we could really help some the most people with. And these two came out. And then I'm looking at him and saw, oh, another one from California.

Speaker 1

So well, see how we are here in California.

Speaker 4

Yeah, anyway, we're all troubled, and so I'm trying to help.

Speaker 1

We're troubled here in California. That's what it is. You're absolutely right. This one's from Paul Matsuda in Mill Valley, and it says more times than I care to remember, I've had a good round going and end up in a sand trap in less than optimal conditions. Three or four strokes later, I'm out of the trap and on

the green or not. My question is what is the best way to play out of wet sand or in the case of a course that I play occasionally sand that is the consistency of fine gravel, or my worst nightmare, a combination of the two. I've tried several techniques, but obviously have not stumbled about the right combination. Maybe you have his answer.

Speaker 5

Well, Paul, let's start with what we were just talking with John. John's question about this half wedge. You've got to learn a half wedged swing, and you've got to know how to put that club halfway back and how to rotate your body and bring it halfway through sand, traps, bunkers, whatever.

For most of us are much more troublesome. The tour player never runs into what you're talking about because their bunkers are all held to PGA Tour standards and that's why they get to hit those fabulous shots out of the bunkers. But the rest of us, you know, the sand texture can change from hole to whole, course to course, even from one place to another in the bunker, and that's the golf that we all plays recreational players. So to me, there's there's several keys. When you walk into

a bunker. The first thing you want to do as you walk in with your feet, size up the firmness the resistance of that sand. Is this sand gonna gonna really kind of eat the golf club a little bit? Or is this sand going to play like, you know, almost like hardpan. Is it going to play you know, much more firm. So the first thing you want to do is feel that and get a feel for how much resistance that that sand is going to give to

the golf club in a firm, wet sand situation. I like to play that shot almost like it's a little pitch out of the hard pan, just you know, don't worry about hitting behind the ball a lot, Just hit you a nice little soft pitch shot with your highest lofted club, the ball is going to come out a little hotter as it would off of a tight lie, and and you know, just aim for a point a little past the flag to allow that this sand, the heavier sand, is going to slow your club down a

little bit. If you get into the fluff of your sand or the or the gravel, the fine gravel. A lot of times your feet will just really move into that gravel and you'll find that there's not a lot of resistance here to the golf club. So when that club makes contact with the sand on the way down, that sand is is not going to reject that club, for example, as much as the as the firm sand will.

So there it's just a bunker shot. It's you know, lay the club open, so you increase the bounce of the golf club, pick a spot about two inches behind the ball, make that half wedge swing, and just float the ball out of the bunker. If you are not a low single digit or if you are not a self proclaimed sand expert, then understand that bunkers are hazards. You know, you're not a tour player. The tour players

get up and down out of bunkers. But bear in mind, they spend more time per day in the practice bunker, the most recreational golfer spending a lifetime.

Speaker 1

Yeah, don't they also in many cases, don't the tour players aim for bunkers to because they're more confident there and and it's less trouble for them.

Speaker 5

Oh absolutely, I mean you know that I don't know what's going to happen around the bunker, and you know they'll they'll pull the driver on the sharp poar forward because they're up and down percentages or I think that the last time I looked, if you were a fifty percent up and down player out of the bunker, you were like ranked one hundred and thirtieth on the PGA Tour. So you know, but it's interesting if you go on

the Buy dot Com Tour. Now, you go to that tour and fifty percent up and down percentage ranks you about thirtieth. So I mean a real difference between the Big Tour and the little tours. It's the quality of short game performance. Guys all can hit the ball, but you know, when you go into a bunker, Paul, size it up and determine what your standards, what your goal needs to be. If this is going to be a tough bunker shot. Then anywhere on the green is a

good shot. Forget the flag, play to the safe side of the hole, and you know, leave yourself a good two put If if you're a good bunker player, you got a nice clean line and sand that makes you feel confident, then go ahead and take it a little

more aggressive line to the flag. But you understand, for most of us as recreational golfers, I mean, you take the average twelve handicap, and I don't ask what any of y'all's handicaps are, but a twelve handicapper, if you think about it, there are six par holes on the golf course and twelve bogie holes, and you just beat your handicap. So you know, you don't have to go out and make a bunch of pars to shoot eighty

two or eighty five. Just have to make a handful and then not have any blow ups and these three or four stroke later things. So if you hit the drive in the fairway, back to the program, is golf smarter. If you hit the drive in the fairway and hit a good approach on the green, this is now a par hole, maybe even a birdie. But if you hit the drive in the rough, this hole is starting to be a Bogie's going to be a good score. If you hit the second shot into the bunker, bogie's not

going to be a bad score at all. So you know, adjust your standards as you move from the tee toward the hole. Adjust your goals as to what this ought to be. I mean, you may be on the shortest par five on the golf course, but you know, if you hit your drive behind a tree and have to pitch out sideways, this complexion of the soul just changed a lot. It's now a hard hole because you know you've you've had to sacrifice a shot, So all the

holes are equally difficult. If you hit two really good shots, they all play easy, and if you hit two really bad shots, they all play hard. It really doesn't matter what the handicap ranking on the card is.

Speaker 1

Wait, tell me that one more time. Twelve handicap, six par six bogies.

Speaker 5

That's twelve handicaps, six bars and twelve bogies. You know that gives you an eighty four and you're hit twelve handicaps, going to start moving downward to nine or ten. You shoot a bunch of eighty fours. So bear in mind that, you know, I mean I talked to a lot of golfers. I'd like, you know, I'm a ninety shooter, I'm a ninety five shooter. Well, then there are no paroles on the golf course for you. I mean, if you make a part just like, wow, I stole one. It's kind

of like the scratch guy making a birdie. You stole one there, and you know, but but be realistic about your expectations. This is a very hard game. And what is it like five percent of the golfers can break ninety regularly. So you know, I hear people all the times say why I'm not a very good golfer I shoot in the eighties? Really, because shooting in the eighties is a very good golfer.

Speaker 1

Well, it depends where you're looking from, right, haven't we talked about this consistantly.

Speaker 5

I mean, if you used to be a scratch and now you're shooting in the eighties, you need to go see your golf or your doctor. But you know you are your shrink. But you know, I wrote my blog this morning about getting the yips and dealing with them, so you know it appens to everybody. But I mean it's a hard game. I mean, you know, you think about it. I mean, Robin Williams gets one of my favorites.

But yeah, okay, So there's a FOURD a quarter inch hole a quarter of a mile down there across the country, and I've got this little round white ball and an implement poorly suited for striking it, and I'm going to put it in that.

Speaker 4

Hole and forward for wax. It's really absurd, but we can do it.

Speaker 1

Well. We're not going to quote Robin on that one unless you wanted me to bleep it out. I have no problem.

Speaker 4

Rob Williams definition take off.

Speaker 1

See this is what the Short Game Academy is all about. I love these answers. You know, we talked to PGA professionals teaching professionals a lot, and to me, those are guys that played golf really well as a kid and they wanted to continue to play golf. But you come from a different place. You are a club designer. You are looking at how am I going to make other people better from this design? And so you see things like bunker shot and short shots very differently than just

a teaching pro. And I love your perspective on this, and this is why I'm so excited about the Short Game Academy.

Speaker 4

Well, and I like it too.

Speaker 5

I mean, I've been writing a blog under the moniker the Wedge Guy for five years, anchors five hundred some odd articles out there now, and I mean there's a lot of a lot of things out there that you that your listeners can go dive into. And I like sharing my knowledge. Somebody asked me why I gave away all this knowledge for free us and because that's the way I got everything. I know, somebody was willing to give it to me, so, you know, and I boiled it around in my head and came out with my

own take. But we're very focused at score golf. On the short game. We're very focused on scoring because very you know, I mean, golf is difficult game, but good scores are very gratifying, and very few people come off the golf course really happy that I hit a lot of good shots. I scored miserably, but I'm delighted. I mean, we kind of boil it down to the numerical gratification at.

Speaker 4

The end of the day. Was that a number that made me happy? You know?

Speaker 5

You see guys in the locker room all times that god, I struggled all day to David Man, I can't get together and shot in seventy eight or eighty eight or ninety eight, whatever your number is. And you look at the tour players and you know, you see some of those guys that can just band aid it together. They're not hitting it well, but they can salvage their round

because they're good with their scoring clubs. And you know, we are very focused on that at score Golf, and we know we can help any golfer, regardless of their skill level, regardless of their physical strength attributes. We can help any golfer become better inside nine iron range. And if you can be really good inside nine iron range, you can play anybody's golf course. You can score better than you ever have because that's where the game is played.

Speaker 1

Bottom line.

Speaker 5

No, I mean it was like never a year ago. He hits at three hundred and can't score. He's shooting in the mid eighties. If you're hitting at three hundred, you ought to be able to just you know, tear the golf course apart not shooting the mid eighties.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, you know we talk about being shooting in the mid eighties is kind of like being in your sixties. To bad golfers, you're really good. And to good golfers, yeah, in your eighties you're big. Not that good, you know, when you're in your sixties. To old people, you're young.

Speaker 4

Yep, exact people.

Speaker 5

Year old sixty is not years old as it used to be, by the way, looking at it from this side of sixty.

Speaker 1

Yeah, right now that we're both in the back nine here in our lives.

Speaker 4

You have But thirty six is the new eighteen. Don't forget that.

Speaker 1

Oh right, you mean scoring wise or a whole amount of holes you play in a day.

Speaker 5

Anyway, big blase is the new okay. So sixty is the new forty and age okay, thirty six is the new eighteen in golf, and fifty nine is the new sixty and scoring clubs.

Speaker 1

There you go, We're all done. That works, hey, John and Paul congratulating not of McCartney and Lennon, but congratulations John Shields and Paul Matsuda, because you guys have both earned the opportunity to get a free score. Not an opportunity, you have gotten a score forty one sixty one wedge of your choice, customized for you scoring club. I'm not gonna call a wedge.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna learn it's a scoring bitches. Wedges go in the bargain. Been with their Simmon woods.

Speaker 5

There are relics of a bygone era, and I will tell y'all all about that if y'all want to read about

Speaker 1

All right, wedgesdges

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