A Spiritual Awakening in DC: One On One with Bishop Leon Benjamin | Episode 3

We have to match policy with what the people voted, not. Oh, you didn't know what you were doing. That's the narrative now. You didn't know what you were doing. You made a mistake when you voted for Trump.

Yeah, or you're too stupid to vote. When we said you could vote, we didn't actually mean it. We only meant it. As long as you didn't show up and you, let us do whatever we think is right, because we know better. Welcome back to Going Rogue with Lara Logan, and for this episode we have one of my favorite people in the whole world, pastor Leon Benjamin, who has made the journey here from Dallas. Thank you for driving all the way. It's very important that people come to Fly Over Country.

Yes, and see that it is actually worth stopping here. Yes, yes.

So okay, Leon, we have Luke Coffey in the studio today. Over there, Mr Luke Coffey, you over there?

I'm here Excited to have Pastor Benjamin here with us.

Okay, and so, pastor Benjamin, you and I have known each other for a few years now. Obviously, you're a man of faith. You've also been in and out of the White House lately checking on the president, busy on a number of things, some of which you can talk about, some of which you can't. But you also and you have a role in am I allowed to say this you have a role coming up in the office of faith.

Well, we are working now with the office of faith. Pastor Paula White-Cain is the director, and so she has a wonderful staff and some great people, and so there's some other things that are possibly coming up, but we as a group of pastors have had the wonderful privilege opportunity to go in and meet. We were there when President Trump signed the executive order for the Office of Faith.

In the Oval Office, right In the.

Oval Office, which I've never been in before. So first time for everything, right yeah, and we had a chance to pray for the president, wow, and I felt the holy ghost. I mean it was you're seeing God do something and set a precedent. You're seeing God do something and set a precedent in something that has never been done before. And so we were there. We were in another room adjacent to it. We were there singing songs. We were there praising God. This is the White House. This is great.

This is the White House and we're in there praising God. Okay, so I just have to say this episode we are going to have a conversation about faith and about God, about this moment in history and about all the things that have led up to here, about all the things that have led up to here, and I really would like to know, from a spiritual point of view, where this is going and what responsibilities we have in this moment. So that's how we're going rogue this week.

Yes, yeah, we kind of got God. I think we didn't know we were really going to pastor. People would say it we just wanted to be going to church and helping out the pastor.

I see.

But it, you know, god began to speak and to be a little bit more direct, you know, because his voice is real. It's a real voice of God. Sometimes we want to hear God and he doesn't say anything. So we read his word, we pray, but we heard the Lord say okay, you're going to go pastor. And even though other people said it, it was not until the Lord gave the confirmation that this is what we're supposed to do.

So do you want to open with a prayer?

Yes.

Okay. Always, I love to pray Now don't go on for 30 minutes, don't go on for 40 minutes. Yes, okay, always. I love to pray. Don't go on for 30 minutes. Don't go on for 40 minutes. No, okay, I'm just saying we don't want people. I mean, even if God tells you to? No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. What's that Luke?

Let's pray.

Father. We thank you, lord, for this wonderful occasion that you have brought us together to just speak candidly about faith and about hope and love and all the things that are going on in our nation, and how God, your perspective, oh God, is valid through the people, and even people that don't even know you. We ask for your covering and your grace. Thank you for Laura extending her kindness and her expertise in getting the message out that faith is alive in America and around this world.

Amen. Okay, Leon, let's go right out of the box. A lot of people in this country are like why do we need an office of faith, these right-wing lunatics, these? Mega extremists now they're messing up the Constitution. What happened to separation of church and state? There's no reason to have something like this. What is the purpose of the office of faith, as far as you know?

It really goes back to the perspective of our founding fathers that they depended upon the Lord for direction and even writing the frame, the framework of our declaration of independence, our constitution, everything was not just we got to get away and form our own union. We really need direction. So there were pastors involved in the framing of our Constitution and our Declaration of Independence. Pastors all over the place. They didn't have to go far. Faith was prevalent.

Well, some people will say the critics right. They'll say, well, this steps on the separation of powers, and you know that you're supposed to keep god out of it. Um, and they've been quite successful in making that argument, because kids don't pray in schools anymore, you know, you know they're but that was an argument see the ten commandments anywhere. I mean, there's places where they won't even do nativity decorations at Christmas time.

But it's funny you said that Because remember, they were already in school From the Harvards and the Yales and the Princetons, and from the beginning All schools had what is called the Atkins Bible. That was the original Bible that was used by our founding fathers, and so everything was Bible. Everything in the beginning was prayer, everything was Bible. So it was an argument that said we don't need it anymore.

When did they take it out?

it was in the 60s oh, the 60s cultural mocks.

Cultural mocks, is that right?

it was a cultural clash and everybody wanted to be heard and thought that uh was probably a very good time with the whole racism stuff that was going on civil rights, woodstock, woodstock we called it the Jesus Movement. There was a lot of things going on Drugs, yeah, and people were looking and searching the Vietnam War. My dad was in the Vietnam War.

That came a little bit later, right, but it started in the 60s and rolled into the 70s.

All of us watched MASH, the Korean War oh gosh, that was a great show, and so we're trying to find ourselves as a nation find ourselves as, as a nation.

That's really that, that searing moment where cultural marxism really took over american, uh, pop culture and popular culture, right, yeah and um. I mean because the at that point the marxists realized that the american dream made the whole proletariat an unreliable partner. Because you could work in this country and you know you could make life better for yourself. And it didn't matter or you know where you were born, whether you had connections or not. Connections I mean you.

Well, wanting to redefine the existence of man. What is the purpose of man. It's a scripture in the Bible that says what is man? That thou art mindful of him, the son of man, that thou visited him, For you made him a little lower than the angels, but you crowned him with glory, with power, dominion. And so Marxism says man should not have all that power, it should only be given to a few. So who gets to decide who has the power?

That's the flaw, right, or one of the many flaws, because it's all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others Because you always got to have the overlords making sure that everybody's equal you know equally poor yeah, jesus obedient.

He taught totally opposite. He said he that is greatest among you shall be your slave, shall be your servant, and, and, and if you want to serve, you have to be as a child, and so that type of humility is totally erased from Marxism.

Because children are by nature humble.

Yeah, that's the kingdom. The kingdom Jesus rebuked his disciples because the parents said bless my child, please, lord, bless my child. And the disciples said get these children away. You're above these children. And he rebuked them and said suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not, for such is the kingdom of God. So the Marxism is totally anti-kingdom.

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Well, it's the thing about the children, I think, really takes the mask off of the true motives of the Marxist. So the whole thing is we don't want the whole mandate. And I'm going to go all the way back to Genesis. The whole mandate was he made male and female and then he blessed them. So the whole thing about passing the blessing and then he blessed them. So the whole thing about passing the blessing. See, children represent that. It's called heritage. Children are heritage of the Lord.

They were sent by God, sure and in the case of Adam and Eve, they were all grown. They didn't go through the process. Well, this is a good point.

They didn't go through the process. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Puberty, no adolescence, just do the will of God. Go to work. He till the garden, you know, keep it and take care of that woman and we know how that went.

Well, oops, not so good.

That did not. The devil tried. He made sure. He made sure that it would always be friction. You know that was his goal, so that the focus would never be on God's will. It would always be on man's will. See, Marxism is totally absent of God's will.

Well, and not only that, I was just shocked when, you know, my kids went to a Catholic school in this little town and they were teaching Marxism as an alternative form of government. And I mean, I had to say to the headmaster I said you realize, first of all, it's not a form of economic organization, as you're teaching, it's a form of social control and it's a political system. He said well, I'm not an expert in Marxism. He said to me.

Well see, I really want to hit the point about why the children on the planet? Because he gave man kind of a. It was an affirmation but it was kind of a commandment. He says be fruitful and multiply. But the other part was replenish. That word in the Hebrew means to, to bring back to former fullness. That means there were some people on the planet before oh yeah, to bring it back. Re means return. Sure, replenish supply, right. So bring back the supply that was here before.

He came along and nelson madela was like I'm done with this, I'm not wearing the tie he made. Uh, he made brightly colored shirts famous yeah, so that's that's called independence.

See, really, what? What man did was he declared independence from God, so basically getting cut off from headquarters. Heaven was headquarters I see so Adam didn't fall from heaven. When you say the fall, we talk about the great fall. This is why children are so important. Adam didn't fall from heaven. He fell in the form of rulership. So when you hit the children, you're saying you don't want future, you don't want rulers that will eventually rule.

And you wound God.

Oh, you're telling God you don't exist and you wound God. Oh, you're telling God you don't exist, so it goes deep. So I mean God sends a flood and destroys everybody except for eight people.

You think about that, Of course. I think Noah was done with kids.

He certainly had had a few by then, yeah, but Shem Ham and Japheth had to replenish the whole earth again.

Yes, so, leon, I mean, you hear often that we're in the midst of a spiritual battle, and I wonder how that plays into what you're saying now.

Yeah, spiritual meaning discernment, not fight, because God fights a different way.

What do you mean?

If God wants to take you out, he sends an angel.

That sounds a lot like the devil, I know. So we have a saying here If God wants to bless you he sends a person.

If Satan wants to curse you, he sends a person.

Oh, that's very tricky, I know. So you need discernment to know the difference you got to have discernment.

So spiritual warfare is really not guns and bullets and knives. This is where our dear friend General Flynn came in with the books about 5GW.

Oh yeah, Now we're going to really get attacked for this episode you brought in the Flynn. No, that's good. That's good because we don't care.

Well, spiritual warfare is not learned, it's discerned when somebody really hates you because they're cloaking, they're masking, they're trying to be something that they're not, to present an image of something, to make you relax, to make you comfortable, to deceive, to deceive. That's why the devil used in the garden, the serpent. He was subtle of all the other things. So when you saw the serpent you were like and so when? So when he would talk?

I hate snakes I know, but he was not gazing at the serpent, I'm running for my life at this.

The serpent was on two feet, it could walk. Oh yes, if you really go check out underneath the snake, there's a place where he had legs and hands. Wow, so in this case he could stand, I see. So when God cursed the serpent that forever to be on his belly to lick the dust of the man, now you know why Satan hates us. He's licking dust eternally. So what we shed is his dinner. Stuff we don't need anymore is his lunch, because our skin shed all the time.

It's like here I am here to help you. However, I'm not really.

No.

They use that as a cover all the time.

No, so that's why he used the serpent. He used that because he was very subtle and this time this animal could talk. So you got to think what God did when he cursed this serpent.

It's really amazing because you know most kids who are attracted to Marxism. It appeals to the good in human beings. It appeals, you know, when you say, you say, well, I mean I don't want people to go hungry.

Yeah sure, everybody should be able to eat right and have a home and have an education and have health care right, but but look what to say, look what, look what satan did through the serpent. He says not. God said that you shall not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And she was like, because he was trying to act like he was her consultant.

So you don't believe in religion?

I put religion in its proper place, which is Is it keeps you always looking for something when you really already have it oh yes, that's uh, you know.

So marxism is a type of religion of course, yes, which is why you're not allowed to have any other religion, because they got to be the only dog in town, really, right, right, because they don't need a competing religion. I know luke is going to want to jump in here. Wait, I need to tell you this so you know how I met Luke is because he's a J6er was pardoned by the president.

Luke, tell Pastor Leon what got you into all sorts of trouble on January 6th. So, Pastor Benjamin, my father's also a minister. He does prison ministry. So I hadn't been to prison until other than sharing the gospel, until January 6th. But so you know, that day I was, you know, I was as a filmmaker. I was there interviewing people and documenting the day, and then, as I was going back to my hotel to meet up with my buddy, I didn't know what was going on at the Capitol.

Well, and you were right, because Roseanne Boyland was dying right there and then she got beaten, savagely beaten by a Capitol Police Officer, Lila Morris, who we still can't figure out why. I mean, Roseanne Boyland is really the second woman who died on January 6th that most of the country still doesn't even know her name.

And I heard the Lord. It calmed down for a second. I heard the Lord. There were a group of men, there was like we need to keep it from escalating again. And I heard the Lord say Luke, go, stand in the gap. And I also heard that there was a woman down at the top of the stairs. So I walked up there as peacefully as I could and one second before I arrived at the front of the top of the stairs, a crutch was thrown at my feet.

They made him the face of the insurrection.

Wow.

How many charges did you have, Luke?

Initially, yeah, I had 10 charges and then-.

Including interfering with police and the line of duty and assault with a deadly weapon Assault with a deadly weapon like one pound crutch, and so it was.

but I know that the Lord called me there, Like a lot of the J6ers, we know that we were called that day and Jesus has worked. Even if some people didn't know the Lord, you know before they have found him through prison and through suffering. So I know that God works, you know, as he says, works all things for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose. And I knew he would redeem me at one point.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, luke, the book of Joel is coming up to me right now, just really the prophecies of the last days, because it talks about the moon turning to red. And we see a red moon, we go and we watch it until it gets real small and then it turns back white again. But they do all these signs, you know all these signs. And then, uh, he calls for a fast, he calls for the weeping, the wailing. They call it the wailing woman, the woman to weep.

Yeah that when they cry out, you're going to come running you better come and get me, I sure did in our witness, he is the strongest.

So. So the j, the j6, was to bring back that understanding what they meant for evil, god meant for good. You, you're talking about a wailing and a crying out, that america had to go through a mourning, a fasting, even though it was almost four years, but for God to come in. Are you kidding me? Did not God show up? It wasn't just MAGA, it wasn't just too big to rig, it was God showing up because his children cried out and no one else could come. But daddy, amen, true daddy, oh, a real father.

That's just incredible for me that you said that, because I have a friend. He was a filmmaker wonderful filmmaker has just done an incredible movie about vaccine injured, um matt guthrie, and he showed me a message once he had a friend working on counter-trafficking and he showed me a message written on a wall of a place in Houston where children were being trafficked. And I believe, as far if memory serves correct, would it what this one child had written across the wall was Nobody came.

Right, right. One of the things about the jews the jews knew how to cry, they and, and so the prophet was just reminding them blow the trumpet in zion. So I got my oh I want to hear that trumpet there.

It's really called a shofar you have your shofar and I brought my shofar with me.

So it says blow ye the trumpet in zion and sound an alarm in my holy mountain. Let all inhabitants of the land tremble, for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand. A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick, thick darkness as the morning spread upon the mountains. A great people and a strong that there had not been ever like, neither shall be more after it, even the years of many generations.

And that takes skill. I tried to blow one of those that takes skill and he's going through the prophet and the prophet's just going off on him.

He's just going off on him saying it's going to happen, it's going to happen. God and the prophet's just going off on him. He's just going off on him saying it's going to happen, it's going to happen, God is done, God is done. And then he starts to tell him all right, he says they're going to be like chariots, they're going to come in. This is a true invasion. This happened to Israel to finally scatter all Israel.

Amen, I'm going to let people go to prison.

I'm going to let things happen.

I'm going to let the darkness reign.

I'm going to let the moon turn to red and there will be no more. The sun will give not its light. We call that an eclipse in the natural but he tells him who knoweth if he will rip, if he will return and repent and leave a blessing behind him, even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the lord, your god. So blow the trumpet in zion. Sanctify fast, call the solemn assembly a solemn assembly.

I went to the gulag Every night.

I was there. Yeah, I was there on some occasions and we're praying and doing the Star Spangled Banner and the Pledge of Allegiance.

I was there a couple times too, yeah. And and the Pledge of Allegiance. I was there a couple times too, yeah, and they're still singing it at nine o'clock every night.

And they didn't realize. This was the cry, the weeping between the porch and the altar. See the altar. The porch was, of course, solomon's porch, the way the temple, you know, but it had different sections, you know. And the altar, you know, and, and the altar, of course, was to do sacrifices. Hmm, and this all translates into the new Testament where it says brethren, I beseech you, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice.

So what the j6 has created was an altar right there in the gul and they were the living sacrifice and they were the living sacrifices that god now would accept wow that's amazing.

God accepted it and our enemies thought you're wasting your time. Stop that singing of the national anthem, stop that prayer, stop that pleasure of allegiance, because no one's listening to you. But, au contraire, who would know? That's what the prophet said If God will leave a blessing and repent and return.

But he did. He did, and that blessing was in the form of Donald Trump and JD Vance and all the others right, general Michael Flynn yes, all of them.

Yes.

Who get attacked all the time. Yes and stand the course.

And Laura Logan Come on, and yep Come on.

One of many, one of many, leon, you know what I want to ask you.

I feel the Holy Ghost right now.

Do you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hallelujah, I'm telling you you're opening up a portal right now for an ask. Right now for an ask. Remember, esther, when she said I need you to fast because the king hasn't called me for a long time and I don't know, because if you don't call me and I go in, it could be off with your head. And Mordecai said well, you better find a way, sister.

Yeah.

Oh, laura, yes, he is. He's setting up a banquet, yeah, oh.

Laura, yes, he is.

He's setting up a banquet and these idiots think the banquet is to honor them. But remember what David said he prepares a table before me in the presence of my enemies.

Yes, Lord.

That's the setup. That's the setup. Flips the script. He flips the script. America's about to see a flip. Yes, Lord.

That's the setup.

That's the setup Flips the script. He flips the script. America's about to see a flip, wow, yeah. And people such as yourself and many others who are not afraid to go into and say all right, god, if you're going to save America, or, in this case, esther, if you're going to save my people.

Yes.

You better show me, you better show me, you better, you better show me. And so this, this is the banquet.

You know what I want? I want the truth about the children. I want it to stop. I want wealthy people, powerful people, evil people, whoever they are, criminals, people who pay to rape children and torture them and murder them. I want them to stop and I want them to be held accountable. That's what I want. I want there to be nowhere for them to hide, nowhere for them to go. I want there to be no conversation about. Maybe this is true, maybe that is true.

That's that weeping here between the porch and the altar, yeah, and God causes scenarios to happen to cause that weeping to be a real, authentic weep, a real crying out. And God has a way to get us to cry out to him, it's just his wisdom. And when it's a real cry and this is what happens that he gets satisfied with our tears. He gets satisfied when we know there is nowhere else to go but him, he gets satisfied. Yeah, and the word is Abba. The word means father.

They think they're greater than God they do.

Yeah, yeah. And so to be oblivious to the fact is what God does when he pours out his spirit. Everyone makes that like a churchy thing. No, that is a kingdom promise that God heard us, he heard our cry and he pities our every moan, even the ones that cannot be uttered. It says the Holy Spirit helps our infirmities through moans and groans that cannot be uttered. It says the holy spirit helps our infirmities through moans and groans that cannot be uttered. He maketh intercession for us.

Ah, revelation? Sure yeah, but it's full of apocalyptic visions.

But right there in the interim before that last chapter. Yes 22, where the saints go marching in. Yes, we got to have this whole disruption and cultural clashing. We got to have this disruption and it looks like it's never in our favor. Disruption is, it always seems as an inconvenient time to be disrupted, you know. But we need that. We need that to prove that only God can deliver us.

It's funny that you say this, Leon, because I've actually done speaking events where I've told people, if you start to feel overwhelmed, if you feel like every direction you turn, there's something else coming at you and you can't handle it. I said you're supposed to feel that way because that's God trying to show you that you're not the answer. Hello, he is.

Come on.

That's it. Is that don't feel overwhelmed. That's the moment when you should find peace, because you realize oh okay, I got to do everything I can do, I've got to do my part, but in the end, this is bigger than me, it's bigger than all of us, and there's only one thing that's bigger than all of us, and that's God.

Yeah, you're talking about salvation. Everyone wants salvation to be this goosebumps feel-good thing, this goosebumps feel good thing. There was a man 2 000 years ago. They got totally marred beyond belief and beat all night. It wasn't beautiful. No, it was not pretty at all no and they spat on him and they ripped his skin from him with the cat of nine tails and he tore his clothes off and and and they blindfolded him and hit him in the face and said tell us who hit you j6's.

You know it was so funny, leon, because I had seen you.

I feel the Holy Ghost. All right, right, come on somebody. And I had to leave. I didn't want to leave you.

I'm so glad. And then, and then I found you again at the end of the day and I said you got us, you got to see, you had to rush home soon, I know soon.

As I went over there, I said come on over and say hello I and I said this ends the day. This is is completion. This is seven. Seven is number for completion, perfect number. This is a seven. This is a seven moment, hallelujah. I want to read this verse because it just hit me Isaiah 6, 13.

Give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness. That they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord. That he might be glorified, so he allows us to go through a storm, to weather it, endure it. You know, and sometimes I think I've met many people that have said they've come to the Lord because they've seen the realness and truth of evil and so if there's evil there's gotta be good.

Yeah, that's it, that's so. That's the fulfillment of the prophecy in the book of Joel. Is that it shall be light, yeah, in the evening time. Amen, how do you you know? Here we are having a full solar eclipse and the prophet is saying no, it's still light, still like leon, are you like this at home?

yeah, I'm just wondering what an amazing father you must be oh, bless you I mean, I know, your kids are older now my kids. Kids are older now yeah, how many do you have?

I have three. Three I got a 29,. One going to be 27 in a few weeks. My birthday is next week.

Happy birthday.

And then I got a 22-year-old going to be 22, and I got two grandchildren and I know you love to cook those burgers and watch the game. Yeah well, my wife tells me to stay out of the kitchen for safety reasons. It's like can't even boil water, right, you know. But yeah, maria and I are going on 30, now 34 years of marriage.

Wow.

And laboring together in the lord, um it is. It is definitely god's, god's blessing that that's keeping us, you know it's the blessing yeah, and that's, that's what we want to open up to america. And with this show for me being here with you today, I want America to know that the blessing is still available. Daughter, you're just opening up this portal, I'm telling you.

Right.

I know Even Esau cried out bless me, Father. Even Esau cried out bless me, Father. And Jacob said I've already I mean Isaac said I've already blessed Jacob, I've already blessed him. I'll say a few little prayers over you, but I've given Jacob, your brother, the blessing. You see, this is what's being lined up for America right now, Not cars, not houses, not all that stuff. This is what Marxists think, what the real spoils are, the blessing.

Oh yes.

We're cousins, of course, we're all related, of course, and so you see how Marxism gets us to hate each other and to fight each other and to just division.

Segregate each other.

Segregation. Well they look, well they look. In fact, if you go all the way back to Lenin, Lenin would send emissaries all over the world to look for fissures, openings of division within societies. And in the United States there's a guy who actually his emissary to the US wrote a short book about this and he said he identified race as the fissure in American society, and obviously it's not the only one.

Oh, that's good.

Yes, you know people well. They disregard Africa a lot of the time and obviously, as an African, even though they don't like me to say it, because you know, because I got the wrong color skin, but sorry, that's where I was born and raised Well, well.

I had to do that Baptist way Well.

But you know whether you're from Africa, Leon. You know where the first Islamic Caliphate was established. Where in Nigeria, Osman Caliph, Osman bin Fodio. He fought the first jihad and established the Caliph in the north of the Caliphate, in the north of Nigeria, and so you know it was so interesting to me.

I think you're bringing a valid point about. If we can get rid of one word in this situation, the word is hope, and if I can just get rid of any sense of hope because these territories are all surrounding the very hope of Israel I just got to say it like I'm sensing what the Holy Spirit is saying. I want to surround everything about what God is doing in the earth. I want to surround it with gloom and doom and despair, neglect, if I can put that hope.

He's not. He's not here yet. Where's your God now? Where is?

he? Where is he? He's not here yet. You know, and Peter's remind them, they said that around days of Noah too.

And then they found out, and they, they found out. I think that's called something like that. Yeah, they found out.

But conspiracy theorists drowned yeah, yeah, all those, yeah, yeah. So just as in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Lord. They were we're going to drown. No, no, well, in Noah's day they don't preach it. You just have to understand what was going on. He was building this thing. That took literally 150 years or so, and they go. What are you doing?

Come on, man. Oh yeah, for the first hundred years, noah's, like you know, it's gonna rain you see how silly the church looks in the last days?

yeah, you see how silly the enemy wants us to look in the last days. So all the massacres, the killing, the genocide, everything to get rid, to get rid of hope, so that these scoffers, these we call them prognosticators, you know, like the same balance in tobias when nehemiah was building the wall oh, that ain't gonna work, even a fox to get on and knock that wall over.

Okay, I hear you, but that still doesn't explain or absolve right, it doesn't. Christians and churches and out faithful lead.

You know, leaders of faith, right for allowing it to happen, being silent about it, doing nothing about it well remember, um uh, what's going on right now and why they don't want guys like trump in office and guys like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

Oh yeah.

Because now the hope can be answered. And when you have wicked people in charge, the Bible says when the wicked reign, the people mourn, but when the righteous reign, the people rejoice. And everybody wants to know what's this rejoicing all about? The rejoicing is because the evil person got caught, exposed and got judged. Judged, yeah, the haman. You opened this up. I'm gonna. I'm to let you know. You opened it up.

Christians are still being murdered for their faith, so what? Are we going to do about?

it, when this thing starts to happen.

In other words, what are you going to do about it? What am I going to do?

about it. I'm telling you, one of the things that we as a church has to do is get back to just being the church again and going in and rolling up the sleeves. I mean I like alligator shoes and nice suits and everything, but this is time we got to put our Nikes on. We got to you, don't?

have alligator shoes.

Well, you know I got some leather shoes, but you know I don't. I'm saying some people think that church is all about the dress.

Yeah, it's not, it's not, it's not.

It's not about the, and I'm an apostle and I'm a bishop. So I have the cassock and the, the miter. You know, I don't have the miter, but I have a chupa. It's the hat you wear, like the pope. You know, I have that, I have the cross, I have the you know ring and all but. But people want church to be the dress right. No, no, church is the hands, the feet and the feet and the eyes of the lord jesus, of jesus christ, amen. And now to mobilize that body again.

Okay, so for all those Christians then, and all those church leaders all them hiding behind bushes Hiding behind the bush. You got to do something now about the genocide in Nigeria.

That's right, hiding behind the bush.

Well, pastor Benjamin, let me ask you this Like we've seen the church, you know, specifically in 2020, I think we saw, I mean, a lot of cowardice that were, you know, giving in to the government right Closing down their doors to not worship, and men of God quote unquote that were just, you know, giving in to what big government was saying. You know, and I think that to me, the enemy has infiltrated the doors of the church and we're seeing now a remnant rise.

I'm telling you what. What happened when, when president Trump had that bullet go, you know and almost could have, went in his head. He has, he says he has his favorite chart went in his head he has.

He says he has his favorite chart he said but what he's really telling? It's a signal to say I have faith now in something more than I used to, and and because he knows he should have been dead, he knows god kept him alive god kept him alive.

and so now we have that faith in the White House, the highest office in the world. Yeah, we have that now in the White House, the highest office in the world. The White House is like Mount. What's the highest peak? I forget.

What's the biggest mountain? Mount Everest, mount Everest, the White House. What's the biggest mountain? Mount Everest, mount Everest, the.

White House is might as well be Mount Everest, the city on the hill when Noah landed. His ship landed on the highest mountain and they had to come down from that mountain. And this is where let's pray for President Trump that his faith comes down from this mountain and begins to be real faith active.

Well, I'm glad you raised that, because I tell you, one thing that made me really angry was at the end of his first term, when all that stuff was going on in Lafayette Park in Washington DC, the protests and everything, and as you remember that Trump and his defense chiefs and all that million, they left the White House and they walked across the park and they went to that church.

Right.

And there was a reason Trump was doing that, and it was all the churches that were being burned in Washington DC and it was the attacks on faith and family and everything else. And when he stood there and stood up for uh, for god people abandoned him right, he had the bible yeah he had the bible. you remember that? Yep, yes, and that was a historic place that he went to.

I'm praying. You know we're going through this first 100 days and you know we got 19 cabinets already confirmed appointments yeah, we got three more to go.

How many left to go? Three?

As far as the cabinets, three, but it's over 1,300 jobs that have to be fulfilled. They got moving, yeah, we got, and so that faith office, that office of faith, is not just a mantelpiece inside the White House.

Not just for show.

It's not just for show, no, no, it's in direct correlation of what God did through the J6ers and everyone else that he heard us. It's sort of like what happened when David lost the ark. Remember, in the Old Testament, the Philistines came and got the ark and took it and they put it up next to their God. What is it called? Dagon? It? And they put it up with next to their god that uh, what is it called dagon? And they put, they put it up next to dagon and came back in and it fell down.

So yeah, please him he said?

he said no, no For taking and trying to steal, and try to steal the ark. You're going to pay with hemorrhoids. So what did the Philistines do? They said we got to do an offering, and so they created these little gold balls. This looked like the hemorrhoid and they offered it to israel. They said look, please take this ark.

take it back.

We don't want it, we don't, we don't want it anymore we thought america was right for marxism, but now we're being tormented, we're getting the hemorrhoids because you stole something you should have never put your hand on. Yeah, you put your hand on something that was holy. America is holy unto the lord. It's the ark of the covenant and you thought you could just run away with it and put it next to your gods. No, not so fast, not so fast.

It's kind of amazing, isn't it?

Well, we're just getting started.

Yeah.

And the idols are falling. You know, the enemy loves worshiping their creation. Right, he elevates the creation and not the creator. So you know, we've been living through a time where everybody's listening to their influencer, their idol, you know, in Hollywood, and God is now exposing who they really are.

It's so much being exposed that they had to get rid of Joy Reid. They were like yeah, we got to get rid of you. Yeah, lester holt says I can't even, he can't even do it. He can't even do it no more, because it's so crazy.

What they were the propaganda, the misinformation I know how they sit there with a straight face. With a straight face I do not get it, you know, I just there's. There's that guy, scott jennings. I love that guy. Have you ever listened?

to him, they attack him and he just yeah, and, and they would you know, they got hemorrhoids. They're so weak. They're so weak in the, in the things of the truth.

Yeah, because they're lying, you know, that's why people would say that Kamala Harris didn't have a platform. I'm like, yeah, she had no platform because all of her lies were falling apart and she couldn't make up new lies fast enough to keep those lies going. So there was no passion, there was no sincerity, there wasn't anything, because she couldn't even. The lie was so big at that point she couldn't even sell it. She couldn't even sell it. It was too much even for her and the black.

You know the f, the blacks in the community. I'm voting for trump. I mean joe. I say from Dr McGillicuddy To Joe Bug the Thug.

Didn't you start a black manga?

We had a thing called Maga Black.

Maga Black, that was it.

Black, brown and white unite and we went into the black community and just gave the argument, put it out there.

Yeah.

Like Trump did in the first term. What do you have to lose? Right and my god, they came out in droves and you showed me uh pictures, videos. It was incredible philadelphia, wisconsin, milwaukee, atlanta. You know, these we call battleground states Detroit.

Yeah.

They came out in droves. And now you know what do we do? Where do we go from here? What is? What is the solution?

Well, two things, you know. One is that it's funny you say that because people would ask me before the election what I thought was going to happen. And I was like I mean Trump's up with black voters, up with Latino voters, up with young voters, up with women. I mean there's no demographic in which his support hasn't gone up, so how can he lose the election? I mean, the people who hate him still hate him. But look at this.

He won all the battleground states.

Yeah, and the other thing I want to tell you is you know, I was talking to a lot of the J6s when I saw you and a lot of people I hadn't met before, and a number of them told me that when they were in prison, you know because how there's all the gangs inside and so if you're white, you're supposed to go with the white gangs, if you're Latino, you go with the Latinos, right?

Come on somebody. Yes, I can say in my time in prison I had the. The brothers were my, my brothers. So yeah, they. They actually saw me on tmz when I was getting checked in and they said coffee.

Are you coffee man, the crushed cowboy?

and I was like, yeah, that was me, he's me. He was like we got your back, man, we got your back. And so they looked after me and they said you know, they were trying to tell me that. You know, most of the time you have to join one of these gangs. He's like but we got your back, man. I was like good, I'm just walking with the Holy Spirit. I want to be friends with everybody.

But it was, yeah, I worked out out with them and that was the brothers that stood by me. You see that I, I, I I want to see and I'll every black person now leave the democratic party. I know that's, I know I'm asking a lot, but until there's reef reformation, they need to be free from it. It's, it's, it's. I call it the great exodus. Yeah, it has to be freed from the Trump administration.

I call it the great exodus, yeah.

It has to be an exodus unless they can reform and do better. But their leadership now from Gavin Newsom to all the rest are just talking crazy. They haven't gotten it yet.

No, they haven't gotten it yet. It's just incredible, even watching their people on TV, the things that they're saying that Trump is decimating the constitution and good old Scott Jennings is like which part. They can't say anything. Because what are you talking about? The president is the commander in chief. He's in charge of the military, so you can't act as if this, the government, is some kind of amorphous thing that with its own life. You know.

I found out, too, that the whole united states had congress.

The whole united states doesn't elect congress that's right he's the only elected person that the entire country has to vote for.

That's right, he's the only one.

That's right.

So America has spoken.

America has spoken and they better chip chop right as fast as they're moving. I mean, there's midterms coming up and whatever else they're planning, whatever else they're planning, but there's not a moment to lose. You know, I think I told you this, leon, the night after the election. I woke up in the middle of the night and I'm usually exhausted by the time I go to bed, so I just collapse and I don't ever wake up in the middle of the night.

You know it's a pattern in the Bible Every time a judge died, Israel would go back and do the same stuff over again.

See, Well, yeah, we'll talk about prophecy. I mean we talked about. I mean, do you believe we're in the last hours?

of the last days, I can tell you where we are right here in the book of Acts, where the church is.

Well, I've got that verse pulled up from, up from. Well, he does say he's going to put an outpouring of the holy spirit in the last days right yeah, it's the outpouring of the holy spirit.

That's where we are right now and his favor and the church is supposed to learn the holy spirit. Jesus said I'm gone, but I will not leave you what Comfortless, so I'm going to send. He calls it another comforter.

He says Acts 2.17,. In the last days, god says I will pour out a spirit on all my people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and old men will have dreams.

That's where we are. I know people want to race to revelations and see the mark of the beast and all of that. That'll take care of itself. Right, because it says that the church never took the mark. Go read it. He was given power over everyone, the weak, the old, the young, the rich, the poor. But the proof was the test was herein lies the patience of the saints. So that will take care of itself.

Okay, when is this happening again? This is happening, especially the broke part.

It's happening right now, right now, right now. It's amazing, isn't it? And God tells us Jesus' message was repent, for the kingdom of God has arrived.

And think about it In Mago Day. We were made in the image of God. We are His lightbearers on earth to share, to be the salt and light for others around us, to pour His Spirit on others. Let His Spirit come out of us and it's a gift, the greatest gift we can give someone. We're not gonna take any of this. There's a George Strait song that says I've never seen a hearse with a luggage rack.

You know we're not going to take any of this with us, but we can take others that we love with notice what philip did when he came down to samaria. Samaria was where jesus met the woman at the well, told her how many husbands she had, everything, how many men she had, and when she have now is not her husband. She's like come and see a man.

Yeah.

Right, because this guy is awesome. But he says, no, that's not what I want to give you. I want to give you the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit is what Adam lost, the first one. He lost the dominion, the rule over the earth, and once you get the Holy Ghost, you're in charge again Over the whole earth, not just over a company. The Holy Spirit left the planet when Adam fell.

And Christ brought it back. Christ brought it back. And so everyone he says you'll do greater things than I. Oh God, you'll do greater things than I.

And so this thing about Through the Holy Spirit, people not understanding the role of the Holy Ghost, is where the enemy does his best marketing. Amen, yep.

What do you mean by that, Leon? He puts out commercials.

There's no Holy Spirit, there's no redemption of God putting you back in charge, charge of what? Yeah, this earth is about to be destroyed. No, that's not what the Bible teaches. This earth is about to be destroyed. No, that's not what the bible teaches. This earth is going to be renewed. That's totally different than destroyed. It's going to be a new heavens and a new earth.

A physical journey, you know. So if you don't fear death, you trust that a sovereign God is providential. He's going to provide for us, laura, provide for this show. He's already doing that. We're already seeing miracles. So we just have to trust in the unknown. That's where our faith comes in, right. That's where the Holy Spirit comes in.

So worst paying job in America right now they're working day and night.

Someone made this t-shirt talking about. The pay is okay, but the benefits are out of this world. That's not really true Jesus came to bring the benefits back to the planet. Amen. The Holy Ghost is your benefits package, the ultimate comforter too. You hear that that is your benefits package, the ultimate comforter too, you know.

You hear that. You hear that that's your benefits package okay, don't come to me. I don't want to hear it. It's between you and God. The pastor said so. We even got Keith. Keith is the voice of reason. People don't know Keith because he's the silent one, but we even got the voice of reason. People don't know keith because because he's the silent one, but uh, the we even got the voice of reason to react to that one, because I don't know how many nights he's gone without sleep already.

That's why, when we start to learn what the word says about restoration, we uh the word luke 18. The word is prayer. Prayer is not a religious activity, it's a government activity it means to petition.

It means to bring your case before the judge I thought I was doing well when I was praying though.

The woman said someone stole my pocketbook and took all my money. Go get them. And the judge said no, I'm time for you. But she kept on coming. I said someone stole. You know, like harry, someone stole my pocketbook and I want it all back. And she kept going to the judge and he's like no, but that woman kept on coming continually till it wore him out. He said you know what? I can't stand you and I hate everything about you and I hate god. But I'm going to give you what you want.

That's not talking about church. That's talking about our rights as citizens.

Yes, inalienable rights yes, which means you don't do right, we remove you.

That's correct. And boy, we did.

And boy did America do. And there's more coming. They are never going to get their office again. Some are going to get primary. It's so bad watch what happens and they know it. So they would rather strike up a narrative that we all must fight each other. But that's an old narrative. They're running.

They're running out of narratives to get us to destroy one another. The playbook is the same thing over and over. It's the same old playbook.

But some of them know they're never going to get that office again. Some of us are going to be running for Congress, running for Senate. I mean, god's going to be raising up little silly, sally and flossy Felicia. You're going to run for Congress, ah, ah.

Yes, you are.

But they know Again right.

Didn't you do it once before I ran?

it twice, twice, no, really three times, because my opponent died.

My opponent died. Were you successful.

I was successful in the eyes of God.

So you lost all three races. He was setting you up.

God, god, god. You know how many times did Lincoln run?

I don't know. I know it was a lot. It was a lot.

Yeah, but it's amazing that now the signal is very clear.

Well, now you've had a lot of practice, yeah, so this time, this time, I'm not going to say anything now. It's God's timing. It's God's timing Because I've learned what's it?

say no new wine before it's time.

Leon, where are you going to run?

Well, let's see what God does in a couple of states that I've been looking at. Okay, you can't be one of those people that tries to run somewhere they don't live. Let's see what God does in a couple of states that I've been looking at.

Okay, you can't be one of those people that tries to run somewhere they don't live because they get caught.

No, because I have a church in Tulsa. That's a nice place, Mike. I've been there for like four years.

Yeah.

But Virginia Ooh.

Ooh, that's a good one, virginia is. Virginia would be a good one. Prime time oh, virginia is. Virginia would be a good one Prime time, oh, but you're right there, I'm right there, huh, okay, now what are you going to do? What is the Office of Faith going to do?

The Office of Faith is going to allow every department, whether it be HUD, doj, hhs, you know where Robert Kennedy is.

Yeah, where they've been trafficking children.

Yeah, all those places now will have a connection to faith, and that's not just prayer. What is it? That's policy?

Interesting. So you can't have policies that are profoundly anti-God and anti-faith. Yeah, that's very interesting. So what can we expect to see, do you think?

We're praying for Pastor Paula White-Cain. I pray that she's continuing to build her staff and then, once, all the cabinets come in so you're talking about agriculture, you're talking about education. Linda McMahon, you're talking about US trade, all of the different cabinets Department of Energy Treasury labor energy defense state, all of them with the Office of Faith. The intention is to have a liaison, a faith liaison, in every place that now looks at policy.

That's amazing. You know why? Obviously I know you know this, but I just have to say it Because when you look at what has been done, all those who are against God have brought that ideology into every policy, so like climate, for example what is? It about? Bill Gates thinks he's got to go and block out the sun. You know they're going to see clouds and they're going to play God right. They're going to take over creation by cloning and deciding who can be born with what genes.

Robert Kennedy says that we need to eat better. Yeah, we need to get rid of all this stuff in our food. Yeah, that's policy, but that's in faith.

It is because. What do they say? They say eat these chemicals that we're growing in a lab, this lab grown meat that's not even really meat. Eat these chemicals because the food that God gave you is not enough. Kill all these animals the cows, the chickens, because the food that God gave you is poisoning the earth.

Well, that's why I said, the secretary said, before we put any vaccines in these chickens.

Yeah.

Because we got to eat the chickens that you put the vaccines in.

Yeah, so careful, that's right. You're poisoning the food supply, that's right. That's what they're doing in every direction. But it is rooted, it's absolutely rooted in faith.

In faith.

All of it, Because why do they want to break up the family? Because family is powerful. Yes, so you know. And what is the ultimate family? Family of God.

God's design and he created male and female. Yes, and Satan is the God little G-O-D of confusion and he wants to completely take God's design and flip-flop it Because he's not original.

He's a clown, right, he's like the Chinese.

He can only steal and copy Right. He's not a creator at all.

Yeah, he's not a creator, he's a seeker.

Okay. So this is something that God's putting on my heart right now, that I've thought about for quite a while actually, and I think you can help heart right now, that I've thought about for quite a while actually, and I think you can help. A lot of young people today are very tolerant of the concept of transgenderism. Even if they don't believe in it, they feel called to be tolerant of it out of respect and kindness, not wanting to hurt people, not wanting people to suffer.

Yeah, it's a whole thing about what love really is. And when you define agape, the word is agape In John 3, 16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him would not perish, preach, but have everlasting life. So the word perish does not mean die, it means of no use. Think about it. When a person changes their sex, they're literally perishing and the love that God gives is say I don't want you to perish.

I mean, you chop off your, your hemorrhoids, your golden balls. You chop off your golden balls ain't coming back, it's it's, and so, no, I love you.

I don't want you to perish. Yes, and to suffer and to be of no god made the use of the woman. Let's talk about romans, chapter one. How, uh they? Because they would not retain god in their knowledge, they began to turn themselves over to that which was unseemly men, changing the use it actually says it in the bible.

They changed they trans.

Yes, they transed and god said even the women in themselves changed the use of the women, so no more male and female coming together to have children. They transed. What did it say? It said they began to uh. The word is they began to uh pay a penalty within themselves, yes. And then it says God gave them up over to a reprobate mind.

I'll talk to her.

And what has happened and why everybody needs to hear this.

Yeah, I want to hear that. I want to hear that. That sounds fascinating and, you know, because our children are really the number one target. I'll tell you, leon, I work with an extraordinary woman here in Texas and her organization provides a lot of frontline intelligence for counter-trafficking operations. And she was telling me that boys sell for three times as much as girls on the streets of Texas today Three times as much as girls.

Wow the drugs.

Of course, because how do you get children, how do you get a human being to distance themselves from who they were, how do you get them to become alienated from their real? Sense you get them to do things with narcotics that break down, break down your resistance, break down your morality, break down your will, break down your perspective, break down everything, every part of you separate you from how you were, as you were created, and it's opening up the spiritual doors.

I mean demonic doors. Right, I was just going to say what happened in Samaria when Philip went down to preach to them. Demons started screaming out when he preached the gospel and the leader was guess what? Simon, he was a sorcerer. That word is called pharmaceutio.

Oh yeah, we get the word pharmacology pharmakia, narcotics narcotics so basically he was controlling samaria. Yes, through sorcery and, and that's what they're still doing today. That's why they're. You know, not only has the united states been flooded with narcotics because of the open borders. That's the purpose, part of the purpose of the open border is to flood the country with narcotics. Why? Why?

Yeah, there's a prayer that we have adopted to pray over children and I prayed over my kids. I prayed over because we have a daycare prayed over kids and every child has at least one angel with them all the time. It's called a guardian angel, but we have to acknowledge it, that these angels cover our children yeah, every child.

And if you think so. You know. In Matthew says but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. So, jesus, you, jesus to God, harming a child is the absolute worst thing. And he does say vengeance is mine, but I think the identity, if you think about that, we are bond servants to Christ.

And and what happens is like one man had legion in him. Legion, yeah, that's, 6 000 demons, that's a day. Then jesus said what is your name? And he said legion, for we are many. There's always one head demon. That kind of runs the pack. But he told him. He said "'Well, whoever you are, get out of them'". And Uncle Harry was free for the first time and it said he was clothed in his right mind.

And if you think about Lucifer, he was, you know, the prince, he was the most beautiful angel, he was the angel of worship. And how he uses. Now he was thrown down with a third of the angels fallen angels and he uses, he's the prince of the airways. He uses media, like you talked about, laura, to program his lies his lies, you know and to make them seem that they are not enough. Your identity is do as thou wilt, as it says in the Satanic Bible.

That's the plan. Proverbs says train up a child in the way he should go that when he grows old he will not depart from it. So it's our responsibility and so wow it. Well, we have to put policy in place to protect our kids.

So that's what you're going to do, right?

That's the assignment that every place policy should match what the people wanted. What did the people vote for? The people voted for male and female.

Two genders.

People voted for closed borders. The people voted to get the fentanyl off the streets. The people voted to get men out of women's sports. The people voted to stop unnecessary wars, that billions of dollars are going, when they could go to the people in America.

And people suffering and dying needlessly in a war that cannot end the way they're running it. So the people, voted.

So we have to match policy with what the people voted Not. Oh, you didn't know what you were doing. That's the people voted not. Oh, you didn't know what you were doing. Yeah, that's the narrative now. Well, you didn't know what you're doing, you? You made a mistake when you voted for Trump.

Yeah, or you're too stupid.

Yeah.

Yeah, when we said you could vote, we didn't actually mean it, we only meant it. As long as you didn't show up, do whatever we think is right, because we know better, that's how they are. But oh, but, give us your tax dollars.

Yeah.

Because we need that. Yeah, we don't need you to think, you know, we don't need you to have a voice. We just need you to do what we tell you.

Yeah.

So, leon, one of the reasons that the faith office was established was because of the attacks on Christianity.

Yes, can you speak a little bit to that. Yeah, the whole thing that when we wanted to pray, it was an offense, yeah. When everyone else could pray. Any other faith. Any other faith could pray, but when we wanted to pray an offense. Yeah, we saw it happen from Canada on on to America. But one pastor, they just told him you can't preach in the name of Jesus it's had agents spying out Catholic churches. Wow, we called them mama bears.

Arresting abortion protesters who were praying.

Yeah, Mama bears would go to a meeting and say we want those books, all those pornographic books, out of our library and they went to arrest.

They talked about the mama bears. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I spoke about this at a pornographic books out of our library and they went to arrest at the mama bears. Yeah, yeah, I mean I spoke about this at a moms for liberty event in our local town and I was listed by the southern poverty law center as a domestic violent extremist yeah you know for doing that yeah, a terrorist.

Yeah, we were called terrorists. Yeah, because we were using our faith. Remember the coach that prayed in the middle of the football field? No, you can't do that, but you could bend a knee and not stand for the national anthem Exactly, wow, burning the flag. So this is real to have such an instrument that the president has access to, that's another tool Faith, amen.

It's a tool. So Christian nationalism like I have a lot of, one side of my family is very liberal. They use that term as a dog whistle to demonize those. You know, the men of men and women of faith that want to be involved and active in our government, involve God back in the government. So they use that and have. Pbs has run a documentary on christian nationalism and you know, and I mean it's probably the marxist propaganda that's, you know, trying to demonize that. What?

yeah, the whole thing uh, to love your nation you know america first. That's where that came from. America first is a type of nationalism. So a Christian could not love their own nation, wow, so who? So the Lord said that this is. This is in scripture. If a man cannot take care of his own family, he is worse than an infidel. Infidel means an unbeliever. A person doesn't even the worst description you could give to someone.

Yes, and that's what we've been following is kind of a faith that, oh, you don't have to do anything, you don't have to live up to anything, you don't have to stand for anything, you don't have to fight for it, you know, you just go along with it. Right and survive whatever you know, live and let live, and right been turned into. You know, I just turn a blind eye.

Right, no, no, no, no, we have to. The scripture says a man comes to you as hungry and naked and you say to him be filled and be warmed. Have you really exercised your faith? No, you gotta go get some clothes and go get some food.

Yes. Well, in the same way, leaving faith out of policy is gonna lead to a culture that is run by Satan, right? If we don't include, if we don't bring God into politics, if he's out of politics, who's going to fill that role?

It's going to happen Whether we acknowledge God or not. God cannot deny himself Right. And so when a person it's impossible, the Bible says, without faith it's impossible to please God.

So, leon, it's interesting what you said there, because you remind me of something when you talk about faith like that. I lived five years in Iraq and when, at the end of the first Gulf War, saddam Hussein began carrying around a Quran and people thought you know, he had this image as being this religious man. But actually, when you looked at it, when did he start doing that?

Shiite. Now you know why I hate religion.

Well, that's when Saddam found religion. Because he was like oh, the mullahs, they can kill a million people and they're still lining up to go fight, because they're going to fight for God. They're fighting for their shiite faith, and so that's, you know. So he was a sunni saddam, and that's when he started to bring religion into it. And I, uh, you know, which is because he realized the power, right, he's harnessing the power of god and the power of faith.

Government is supposed to protect our rights, and so we have these representatives that are sitting up in Capitol Hill and their districts are in poverty. The homelessness rate is through the roof. What's going on in San Francisco, some of these other places? Look at what happened with the fires If Trump didn't come in and release the waters. They had plenty of water. They had plenty of water. They had plenty of water. They had plenty of water. They had plenty of water. Where's the faith?

It's incredible.

And so these people have to be called out. They have to be called out and they're saying they want to be called out, and they say they want to be representing their community and they let their community look like trash. No, Leon.

Okay, so we've been talking a while. We better bring this to a close and go and break bread. But before we do that, I wonder if you could just speak to a moment to what you see lies ahead. What are the choices before us now? How do you I mean when you talk to the president, what do you say?

We right now, as Americans, we are all Americans. We have to come to that understanding. Black, brown, white, no, all of that fades away in God's glory when we know that we are all Americans and now we have an opportunity to be one. That was the whole goal to be one. This is Jesus's prayer in John, chapter 17. May they be one, as we are one I in thee, thee in me and I in them. You know, it's all about coming together. This is where America has an opportunity.

and there's yeah, there's many tests right now yeah, and, and god is.

But the scripture says plainly god is faithful, he will provide a way of escape that we'll be able to bear up under the load. See, there's a responsibility to carry this burden. Jesus says my burdens are what my burdens are light, my yoke is easy. Come unto me all you that are heavy laden, and you shall find rest for your soul. Take my yoke upon me and learn of me, for my yoke is easy and my burdens are light. So now we have a leader that wants to take the heavy load off of the people.

Well, I know, leon, you are leading 100 Days of Prayer.

Yes, tell, people where they can find you. Yes, they can go to coalitionofleadersunitedorg where we have our post up there we have some of the prayers posted where people can go back and listen to some of the prayers. But we are monday through friday at 8 am eastern standard time, so we have people from california.

They get up at five o'clock to pray brother benjamin, would you you opened us in prayer, would you close in a prayer for a blessing over this podcast, because we want to glorify God and point people to truth and pray for the audience from what you've just shared.

I'm going to pray for this podcast because this podcast is going to be used to open up the portals of heaven. Amen, and that's what Jesus said that angels will be descending and ascending upon the son of man. That's talking about heaven portals opening. We call it Jacob's ladder in the Old Testament, but Jesus said upon the son of man. That's what was happening during this podcast. Angels descend. That means coming out of heaven, coming to the earth. That's an open portal.

This is true. We don't want to close it.

Yeah, elijah, we want it open Elijah closed heaven and there was no rain for three and a half years. Okay, that'd be bad yeah, yeah but then he opened up heaven come on come on lord so glory be to god rain let it rain, lord, the latter rain of the holy ghost. Thank you, father. Thank you for this opportunity to be with Laura gone rogue. Thank you, lord, for the team, the staff.

Hallelujah.

Thank you, lord. We repent right now. We have all turned and gone astray and we need your mercy, we need your justice. So we ask father right now to order our steps. Cause podcasts like this and a like, such a like that will open the understanding of the masses that they will know God for themselves and no one should have to teach them to know God, for they shall all know him. So we thank you for the Holy Ghost tonight. Have your way, holy Ghost.

Amen.

Fill the people, fill us and cause us, oh God, to hear your voice with clarity and distinction. You said a stranger's voice. We will not hearken to. My sheep know my voice. So we thank you, father, that they will not answer to the voice of the stranger, but we will answer to the voice of the lord by your spirit. Thank you for laura, thank you for her heart. Oh, to open up the portals, so that clear messaging of what you want for America and abroad will be heard with clarity and distinction.

Jesus name, amen, amen. Thank you, leon. Thank you for being with us.

People can find you on X, I know yes on X, I'm on X, people can find you onX, I know. Yes, on X, I'm on X, you can find me Again. They can go to Mago Black and see me there. Leon, for Congress, I'm also there with, with the Coalition of Leaders, united Because we're praying. We're praying, so you'll see the Coalition of Leaders, you'll see that, and so and we'll definitely have you back, amen.

We will definitely have you back. We will definitely have you back. Thank you for bringing it. It's beautiful.

Thank you so much, thank you.

That's another episode of Going Rogue with Lara Logan. We'll see you next week.