You're watching your worst friend brand new faces. My name is matt I am your host, and today I have with me a very lovely guest. I need you to make sure you follow her across all social media and throw some money her way in whatever way you can. These performers get out on the stage, whatever that stage may be, camming, live stage, backseat of a car, whatever. It is. Not this girl, but some of them, and that's fine. Accept that as well. These people get out
there and perform for you. So you wouldn't steal a movie for free. You might, but you're kind of a dirt bag. If you do, make sure you get out there and put money in their pockets. You can find my lovely guest today at Kiralovelace dot com, on Twitter and Instagram at Kira Lovelace xx, and on sex Panther, which we're going to talk about at Kiky Cakes. Two s's at the end links to everything in the episode description. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you in welcoming with me the lovely miss
Kira Lovelace. Kira, thank you very much for coming on today. Thank you, Matthew. It's a pleasure. She hit me with the legal the government name right off the bat, Matthew, Matthew James. Is it James? Middle name Steven spelled it wrong for eighteen years. pH it is a pH, and I spelled it with a V until it came time to put in all my driver's license shit, and they were like, dude, this isn't what your birth certificate says. You spelled your name wrong, and I
went, motherfuck, I'm stupid. Well, that would imply that had one of your caretakers maybe forgot that they put it on the birth certificate as your pH. And that's an interesting thing. But I also used to type of negligence less, less negligence and more concentration on other things, like why are you watching Nick at night at two in the morning as a fourth grader? Go to fucking bed, do your homework. You didn't do your vocab homework. I'm gonna scream at you again. I'm gonna scream at you again.
By the way, your middle name has a pH, and I'm gonna scream at you Elien. It's kind of like that. It's the same thing like blank Blake, Why are you watching a Requiem for a Dream but for the first time at twelve am? As a ten year old, and I think that kind of is why I'm here, to be honest, So shout out to Darren Avanovsky. You have taken me down a colorful path. Wow, folks, if you're not watching this right now, if you're just listening one,
I appreciate you bearing through my voice and not having any audio. But guys, I jump jump on the video of this. Please. Kira is pretty amazing in the looks department. I would say, only second to my wife gwink, but yeah, I mean, Kira, can you tell me how did you decide to get into the adult industry, sex industry whatever. What was your first entrance into it? And then when did you hit a point where you just went this is great. I'm gonna do this all desperation.
I'll be real with you, and a little bit of like a tension seeking behavior. Now I the first man, I don't know if I want to bring this up. I did at one time have an only fans. This was back in I think twenty oh man, it was it twenty nineteen. It was twenty twenty. I just wanted to make a little bit of cash. I was just sort of a treading water, so to speak, and at this point, believe it or not, despite my beautiful body, at the moment, I was a much bigger, sturdier gal, and I
had a directionless non promoted basically a only fans and it it. The people who have done sessions with me would not believe this, but at one point I was a huge people pleaser, so I would give shit away for free and basically just let people just robb at me. Dude, I just was okay. So I stopped doing it because it was not the most lucrative thing I've ever done in my life. And in sep what was it now, October of twenty twenty one, I decided I never want to have I'm gonna
look at here. I never want to have a fucking boss again, and I can't. I was working for a mortgage company doing customer service and uh no, it just very AnyWho. So I had a friend recommend me I had enough followers on Instagram to you've signed up for this website that I'm on now, and it's I went for making twelve dollars an hour or two, making like a twenty grand in my first month, and I was like, oh, okay, no, I like that. We're here for that.
So now was that only fans or the other site? And if it was the other site, what is that other site? The uh? Okay, the first one was only fans. Like I said to close that. When I got the Orange Company job, I just deleted it in case and my first website I went to a sex fanther it. It was mind boggling how how well it worked out. So okay, sex Panther interests me. Is it just text? Is it calls? Is it like anything phone? Really? Can you FaceTime on it? I know nothing about it, actually,
dude, it is the jack of all trades. I I love it so much. I love this website, sex Paanther. If you're watching this, I love you. Cam calls, a phone calls, texting. They used to do texting that would go directly to one of their's phones. Something had happened. I don't think I can talk about it, but suffice to say there's just a lot of back and forth texting through its app. They're selling
photos, videos, making custom things at audio messages. I've been told I have a very sexy voice, and I feel like my four years in the theater has paid off in relationship to that. What else is there. You can just post things on their feed, not talking to anyone directly, and you can just charge for that and you get free advertising. It's the chef's kiss, amazing one. Okay, after a slight technical difficulty, one hundred percent of my fault. Look at this goddamn girl. How could it be
her fault? Kira? You actually you know what. I answered this on here because I realized I steamrolled you when you had a question for me. You had a question for me, and you asked, how do I choose the girls for these two shows? So for the main show, it's anyone with a lot of credits, okay, you know, big name porn stars, representative porn stars, AVN nominated people. I'll occasionally every season like to throw in someone who's kind of on that cusp between newer and more experienced.
And what I hope to do with that is when the other girls promoted, oh my god, I was on this show, hopefully other people will see that other woman as well. Brand New Faces is a little bit different. So brand New Faces I look for a few things. This is not in order, so I'll say, obviously they have to be good looking, which Kira Lovelace here obviously. Is the other thing that's really really important to me is they gotta show This sounds so corny, I sound like, you know,
an old man. They got to show their hard workers. Like if I see a girl who's like a dropped in gorgeous chick, but she doesn't really update her stuff. She's got three videos on her only fans, she's commenting on other stuff, but not doing like the basics that kind of come with it. I look at it and I go like, a, you know what, I don't care how hot this chick is. To quote Rob Ford from Canada, I got more than enough pussy at home. I don't
need to worry about talking to someone and getting it. So I really like to see hard workers. And when I saw you, I was like, oh wow, this girl's gorgeous. This is great, but I noticed something and I'd like to discuss it with you if we could real quick. Sorry, I know i'm filibustering you here. Does that make sense at least? No? Totally, And listen, if you're on doing to me, I will do it to you. So we're just get take turns right? Sounds
good? Uh? You again? You know I'm not trying to metaphorically suck your dick too much here. Sorry for the crudeness. Uh, but you have you have? When did you start your Twitter? Let me ask that my Twitter. That is a touchy subject and let's get into it. I started it sometimes in twenty two. I was very adverse. I fucking hate Twitter. I'm gonna be a real view. I don't like to. I don't get it. It's just it's not my my wheelhouse. I when did I started? I want to say summer twenty two. Okay, so you
are let me let me pause you there. You are my model level quality Kira, and you have two hundred and sixty eight followers. Now I have seen some disgusting men with a lot more followers than you. What is it to deal with this? What is going on? I was shadow band for fucking ever because they said you're unhinged for and we're not here for that. So I was not made aware that I was shadow banded, or I think that's the whole point of it, right, So I was like I was
working on it pretty right early. Just yo, what making very very and if you go to my Twitter, I'm sorry, but you know, just just making a just making really really honest posts and things that are happening in my life that are super kink related, and I guess I may have posted only there's a step too far. And yeah, so I recently got it back when I think Twitter was sold, and that's why my follower number is very upsetting. It. It was upsetting to me because again I thought you
were a bot. At first, I was like, oh shit, I'm fucking talking to this bot. I mean, she's the hottest bot I've ever seen. But God, what am I gonna do with this? I can't have her on the show. She's a robot. She's gonna want to drink oil during the thing. Can't fucking do that. So anyway, I finally get in contact with you. I said it to you before the show. I did not know you were real until you appeared on my screen and I was like, Yo, this is the most convincing Indian dude in a call
center I've ever seen in my life. Well hold, I don't appreciate the assumptions here. I'm a Nigerian prince. I didn't realize. Could I send you some money? I'd prefer the last four of your social and credit card Thank you anytime. I went on a dating app. It is about I honest say, seventy percent of people. I think the other thirty percent are just down with the syndrome or whatever. I get asked you you're a beautiful bot? Or are you a butt? Are you real? And I'm like,
I'm a do you exist? I'm like, unfortunately, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get the bot coming a lot. And it's like, I'm the most lifelike boy you're ever gonna meet. It's it's really It's okay. Again. I know you are an incredibly hard worker, otherwise I wouldn't a hedge on the show. I've checked all the channels and this and that. Twitter represents a great opportunity for growth versus something like Instagram or whatever, because
you have the opportunity for more uncensored stuff. I get you don't like Twitter. I don't really like Twitter either, But my only advice to you after talking all these people is yeah, it's frustrating, but keep on again. I you're too hot for less than ten thousand followers minimum, Like, I don't know what we're doing here. You gotta find one of those only fans or many VIDs accounts and post life. Oh my God, check out Kiara
Lovelace. I I worry about that because I don't typically just do these run in the middle like, oh my god, So I'm gonna get fucked Bundy like some BBC shit later. You know, I my stuff is a lot more. It's pretty, it's listen. It didn't reinvent the wheel like what I do, and in once not a whare I do a lot of femdoma and femdoma umbrella term of related things. I just I feel like without context, it's it's it's not only a very challenging to kind of get my point
across, but also I don't listen. If there's any submissives that I've previously talked to, I don't like that you're seeing this hit me tribute whatever you know where to find me? You know it needs to come out of of your bank account right now, pay for your crimes against humanity. So, uh you know I don't. I don't just post these QT things right Uh
So I've often wondered what what would I even put on it? Well, there are different accounts for everything, same as there's different subreddits for everything and everything else. Uhs, same way as if you were a you're not an eight hundred pound woman who likes to eat muck bang stuff or whatever kind of fetish stuff. Not not my personal preference, no issue with it's just not
my personal preference. But there's an audience for you. So regardless of what you do, you just have to find the channel where your audience is what I would say, because again, your numbers do not correlate with your looks. Okay, it's just they got you got Boosa's numbers up. You said, ye, get your numbers up. You said femdom in there, And I would like to go deep on that because I'm not necessarily a dom.
But there's a lot of I don't know how you classify it. I've been with my wife since we were nineteen, Like, we don't know what we're doing, but I don't. I don't personally get I hate the idea of giving up total control. I don't want to be tickled. I don't have to be the domb in this situation, but I cannot be the sub why
Okay, that's and that's fine. Not everybody has to. It's a spectrum, right, like the thing that I think I'm just kidding, but you know, not everyone has to be this you know, brooding, you know, just vapid, loud, you know, asshole to be a dominant and not everyone's a sniffling little bitch, uh, you know, cug or whatever have you on the fart submissive side. I do think that people tend to lean one way, and I think you just answered that you lean more dominant.
I don't think I have a submissive bone in my body, and I can attribute to that to a you know, just living the life that I've lived. But ugh, you know, femdom is interesting. My first question for you when you said that was do you have it? Do you have
a control issue? Yeah? I mean yeah, most likely, yeah, uh it's it's probably stems from that, but it also probably stems from you know, levels of like like, uh oh, I don't want to look weak in front of my wife, even though it would be to my wife, who's not necessarily a dumb either, but I don't want to look weak. I don't want to look you know, vulnerable. Whatever it is the subs you meet in your life, is that generally does that transfer over to
real life or is it generally the polar opposite? Are you getting like a guy who's like titan of industry, created built my own business from the ground. I raised monster trucks on the weekend. Please peg me, oh, mommy, or actually I get called daddy more than mommy. I recently stage my pronouns on Instagram to daddy and they wouldn't let me. But uh, oh, almost all. And I'm gonna start with cuckolds because this is almost always true for cuckolds and uh submissives generally. Uh, I would say it
leans this way. They are people who are in power or who are who are in positions of power. They are they describe as themselves as alpha and by the way, I hate that terminology. Well but beta just not at all. But yeah, they're like they're alpha. They're in control of everything.
They're they have so many things to worry about and so many checks and balances and people to you know, look over that when they get home, they just want to me out of the driver's seat and uh, it's it's an interesting way to do it, but you know that I please fuck my wife or you know, spit in my mouth and you know, tell me what a worthless piece of shit I am, and take my money. Okay,
I don't think I've ever had this question. I've never heard it asked of a dom and and don't be offended by this, I hope so know that it's not from a place of malice, but rather from a place of ignorance. Do you hate men? Oh, that's a great question. Largely, Yes, I love I do. I love men, I love people. I love humanity. I know it. The things that I too in my you know, professional and you know, private sex life would indicate that maybe that's not true. What it is h I and I love a lot
of men, and I care for men. I work with men fucking exclusively. So what I mean by that I hate. To me, hating men is more so hating what men the mold that men. Uh, I'm gonna throw out a hot button here, like Andrew Tape for example, people who uh just take that sort of just gross ass version of manhood and they you know, inflated and they make it. I'm on with I hate that, and uh, that's that's men. I hate men. I love people, though, And I've seen a lot of how do I phrase this, I
don't want to use the word toxic masculinity. I forget that's a hot button topic. And I don't know that I subscribe you you know all of the ideologies of that, but I would I would go as far as to say I hate what men have come to stand for. I hate the limitations that men have put on themselves and the ones that they end up really perpetuating. I'm not gonna talk about fucking patriarchy. That's not what this is. And what I love about men like Dick having people, I should say, is
they come to me and they're they show me their most vulnerable sides. And one of the things I'm most uh not proud of is that the right word. One of the things I really passionately feel about the job that I do is I was I was a psych major in college, and I really like to just dig my fucking nails and teeth into these men and give them attention, care, and you know, a platform to open up to me. I explore shit, I analyze them. I asked them very very pointed questions,
and I catalog all of it and I prompts. This is related to the men the hitting man question. Not only does getting to know them on a super personal level give them a much better experience because I have context, so it's not just the sort of cycled femdom jargon it is. It is
very much tailored to this specific person. I I I get to, uh, for lack of better words, I'm gonna say, help them, help them in the way that they can get some show off their chest, and I can give them what I would feel is good advice, like hey, you know, if you're like a home wrecking right this that whole fetish peer with your da, here's some good advice, like, you know whatever. Uh, I don't know. I hate the relationship that men have with themselves, so I will say, like, yeah, I hate men, but
it's not that that pet and dry. So we actually just talked about Andrew Tait a second ago on my comedy show when I recorded that earlier today with my co host Shane. It's Andrew Tate actually specifically is what we talked about earlier to I get your point, and you're right, it is a buzzword. It's bullshit. Toxic masculine. It's not bullshit, but it's it's largely overused toxic masculinity. Because there is some form of masculinity that is not toxic.
It's important to have someone that's willing to step up and do you know or whatever, move a wheelbarrow. I don't fucking know. But there are some things you can take from lessons, like those service or oh my god, Jesus Christ, let the blanket down. I was saying words and I don't quite remember Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, all those kind of like conservative
guys. When Andrew Tate says, save your money, you can go buy rotisserie chickens for five bucks, right, people lump something like that in with all the silliness and this and that. But people in I think we're close to the same age. People in our generation, people in the younger generation. They don't know how to do shit anymore. It seems like it's really sad like it. Really. They can crack the algo sometimes, but like change a light switch, not you, just the man in my generation.
So I do think a boost is needed in some sense. It's just, oh my god, you're putting lick gloves on. Now, what am I doing? Yeah? Who gives a shit anyway? Uh? You in the end, are you okay? So you know we hate blah blah blah blah blah men in that sense, But you said you work exclusively exclusively with men. Do you do? Are you bisexual at all? Have you ever shot any kind of girl girl stuff? Or are you just not interested in it? Buckle the fuck in for this? Uh? I have often. I
was a very gay child. I'll say that when I was in middle school, I I I was very upset that I was not born as a boy, so I had gender dysphoria. I was just the gayest the little girl you've ever met. Uh. And my first kiss, my first sexual experiences were all with girls. So I'm like, okay, word, I'm gay. And then you know, I got my first boyfriend. I'm not really sure. He looked interesting, so I was like caught my and I think I fell in love with the chaos of this entire gender. So I am
incredibly bisexual. In fact, I know some men who will not be happy to hear me say this, but I cannot watch porn with a man in it fuck out, and I won't it. Just I just I can't. I will make I will do scenes with men and enjoy it, but I don't want to see some random dick like here. If you're on any of my platforms, do not send me a dick pick not only does it do nothing for me? Nothing. It just enrages me to a level that is probably not appropriate. And it's not it's not what you think it is.
So no, But to wrap up this, U, I am. I love being with men sexually, but I would say I'm more physically attracted to itmen. Okay, I think that's a yeah. I mean my wife is with me. God, this show's talking in this is gonna be. Here's what we're converting it to. Asking if chicks like anal into help me with my life, Kira, I need this fix now, my wife, I think if something happened to me, if the inevitable heart attack hits me sooner than later, my I think my wife is just going to be into chicks
the rest of her life. And that's not her padding it and like kind of telling me this and that she's by she's totally into chicks. We kind of have like a thing where it's like it's not cheating if she wants to. I had this great analogy one time. Okay, imagine dudes are apples. Okay, I'm a red Macintosh apple. Now if you want to go eat a green apple, I'm offended by that. I'm a little bit like
what was wrong with my fucking apple? But if you need to go eat a banana or a banana would actually be the worst possible reference because we're talking about being a lesbian here. If you want to go eat an orange, I can't provide when an orange provides us an apple. I'm not a citrusy. I don't have as good a vitamin. See, I'm not personally offended by that, you know, let me know first. But does that make me a cook? I don't think so. I think it makes you a
selfish, little horny boy the self. Okay, why because okay, because you're like you can you can go get your needs fulfilled from a woman because she can't take my place and I can't. Uh, there's no competing, there's no comparison, so to say, like, yeah, go eat a fruit or whatever. Yeah, I think it was orange, Like that's fine. But if there's competition, if there's a you know, any any if I can be threatened. No, So why does one need matter and one
doesn't? Now I'm with you. I'm fucking possessed as fuck. And not only that, I'm a hypocrite, you know, I I do cutcolding in my real life. It's not just an internet thing. I have a very complicated relationship right now with a Cutgold I've been with for two plus years, and we lived the life style it actively and one of the things we agreed upon I I I made this, So to say we agreed upon it, it's just a funny way of saying something else. But you can, I
will share you with men. Uh whenever I see fit whatever hand you touched that a woman with you will not be getting back. I E. I don't share my property, And honestly, that's just kind of how I refer to him. Uh So, yeah, don't I pissed on that tree, so to speak. And I don't share my toys. Uh, I don't. I don't. I've been chein on quite a bit, surprisingly, I mean many, so you know I don't. I don't jive with it, and I honestly, I don't think any man deserves to have that much attention
from women. Hey wow, not a goddamn submissive bone in the body? Now does that apply? Is there ever a guy? Okay, but you find chick's more attractive. I'm trying to find a guy where you might be okay, relinquishing one percent of control or is there just nothing? A lot of people get me a little fucked up, so to speak, and that I love being thrown around and fucked like an animal and that is not too
uh. I don't feel like that's being submissive. I feel like it's this primal uh and innate uh not nate uh, this uh acknowledgment that women are typically you know, physically weaker and smaller and ye know, breedable in the way that it's actually possible we can get into that, but I won't. So it's like it's can that is that inherently submissive? It's that's subjective. But if some guys like call me daddy, Like, listen, there's only one daddy in this room, and it's not it may not be you.
Okay, I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think being physically uh overpowered, So I would say that might fall underneath the submissive categor Sorry, perhaps, Okay, that's fair. Now do you have in your stable pay pigs? Oh, matt Matthew here mean as a guy, it sounds like the best job in the world. By the way, it's it can be. This job is not as glitzy as some people might think it
is, but yeah it is, so it's great. It comes with some challenges, but you know, we don't want to kill the bonery of the people watching, so it doesn't talk about it. No, no, you're right, but maybe we could give them a little advice on how to properly pay pig. And again for people who don't know the Christians tuning into this channel for the first time, accidentally thinking they were going a deeper dive into
the Bible, a paypig is the paypig. It let's take a step back financial domination, and it is almost always exclusively a dominant female and a honestly, surprisingly enough, is almost always a broke ass man. She doesn't really have anything to give, but he just loves to. Do you have it? He is a surrendering money to a woman for her attention, time and to feel he is of use to her and to satisfy her. Yeah, it's it's just it's it's as submitting via cash. Do I have pay pigs?
Not really, not really, So it's it's it's it's more hype than it is because if anyone would have them, you would have them. You're domb gorgeous, like I have had them. I had. I had to give me like nine grand and like the span of a couple hours, and was like, can I please, Dad do your name on my dick? And I was like, I'd rather you not do that. Actually, like sometimes you got to say these people from themselves, And at least that was
my former logic. Now I'm a little more flexible in that hush. So that's an interesting question, toot have you And it's a big long question here. Have you domned married men who their wives are not aware of it? Or have you taken the nice pennies from that broke guy who did whatever and
he was like, oh, you go to pay my mortgage? And then is there any like are these just dudes being dudes, that's their fucking business whatever they want to do, or are you a little bit like I don't know, dude, I heard you were sending your kid to college and you just sent me your last two hundred dollars. That ain't great. It's that's a challenging aspect of this. I'm gonna say career to sound a little fancy.
Uh, there has to be some ethical checks and balances, right, but there's no oversight really, So the guy with the who wanted to touch to my my name on his lig just fucking retard AnyWho. I hope he's watching this. He ended up having some post that clarity. I said, oh my god, I need to pay rent. Uh you know I need my money back, and uh on the website where we were talking, I was like, I don't have a way to refund you. First of all, second late, even if I did, I don't know if you're doing
money laundering, if this is a scam. And third of all, you don't buy a car. And then when you're you begin making payments, you're like, ah, this, you know this is expensive. You don't get to just for turn it. You know what I mean. You made a fucking decision. And I this is when I first started doing sex, uh sex work again for the second time, and it was Christmas, Like it was like within a couple of days of Christmas, I really did actually think
about it. And uh, he started being really shitty and entitled, and I said, nope, I'm good. I'm gonna just keep all this. And you know, by eyelashes or whatever, the fuck, you can't catch a lot more flies with honey. I do not understand why anybody in that position would get shitty with somebody from his perspective of like I need to I would be like, you can put me on a payment plan or something. I gotta pay my fucking rent this month, please. And that's the thing,
Like, I'm a very agreeable person. I would say that I'm empathetic, and I am I will work with you. I get asked often, right, can I somebody who wants something for me, like a submissive? One of the things I almost always ask and is it's not a sexy question, but it's important. What does your budget look like? Okay? Will you turn a guy down if his budget is not up to your liking? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, Like this is a waste of time. Go
find someone who is not as hot and experiences me and start there. You gotta you got you gotta crawl before you walk. Okay, I'm running, bitch, Like you need to fucking get on the floor and deal with that. Uh. But a lot of the honestly, I feel like my uh Beyonce person to kind of yeah he he he gets real bricked up over giving me money. Does and we live under we did love it, live under the same room. It's just it's bizarre, but most paypigs are cheap.
And if you want, if you want fucking iye hop yeah, and go get some go get some guy. But money talks, bullshit walks, And to be my paypig, I demand like a five hundred dollars deposit on that, uh make good on Uh your name here, sir. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that is fair. Uh. Let's get into some of the basics, right, Actually, no, hause, let's talk about I saw in one of your social media things in the bio or something
bimbo focation. Now, I tell my wife all the time, my wife's got dark hair, pale skin, ROGOTHI look, I was a kid who grew up loving Avril Levine, so it's kind of just in my wheelhouse, okay, But there's something about the whole bimbo fication trend that, like it's something primal, like I grew up with Pam Anderson on Baywatch. Like I can't tell you why I was feeling the way I was feeling, but I was feeling it for sure. What is it to you that turns you on
about that? If that is why, in fact it was in your bio and what are you what steps are you taking to get towards a more bimbo lifestyle? If you will, that's that'sn't Oh the way you ended that is offensive and angry and oh no, if dudes want to just throw money at me for me to just be hot and exists near them, yes, one hundred percent. But bimboification to me is I don't think most if any men
will understand this. But I can best reference it with Dolly Pardon back when you know, she got a lot of scrutiny over her, like fake boobs and her like blonde wigs. Who was somebody was interviewing her and they're like, you know, do you just do you mind that you look fucking ridiculous? And you know, like a horror basically wow. And Dolly, who is by the way, she's my muse, Like I just she was like, well, you know, people look at me and they assume I'm you
know, uh this, that and the other. They think I'm stupid or you know whatever. Put the jokes on them. Uh, I'm smart, I'm talented, I'm yeh uh uh, I'm business literate like h And that's sort of one of the things I like about it. If you see me walking on streets or whatever, you don't look at me and see like this woman is going to funnel all of her piss into my ass. We suck her strap on. Now, that wouldn't be my first That wouldn't be my
first thought. Now it's the hit that you don't see coming. And honestly, I like to look in conspicuously kind of done. Hey, every job I've ever worked at, I've played stupid, so they don't ask me to do more. That's like the male version of bimbofication, I believe. But my question is do you do it? Piece by pause, Go ahead.
I was gonna say bimboification is to me inherently empowering, and I know there are so many ways you could dissect that for a counter argument, but I just wanted to quickly state I do not do this for men, And honestly, I'm very sexually attracted to myself. So well, that makes two of us in this room. So you're doing it for yourself now, But what steps are you taking towards that? And what is like, what is the poster child of the bimbo movement? I mean that makes it sound like it's
a political thing. It could be. I know a lot of communist bimbos and comrades just kidding. No, I don't what's something I take. Let me answer that first. Oh, I don't like it admitting this, but I will. I feel like my dad should be paying me some sort of reparations here. But I naturally have the upper lip of a turtle, like a snap like no upper lip. Okay, error four, if we're not found, I have gotten so much fucking lip filler. I haven't got my
lips done in almost three years, and they're still pretty sizable. Right. Sure you know botoks are not as of light low overdo, but I filler all over my face that's still intact. I guess I'm matabilized slowly. I got these things done in July, so it's been pretty recent. I got you know, my tummy done, and I just like a little Barbie right the blonde hair. I don't do the creepy like contact thing like. I'm actually like legitimately blind, so I need like good contact lines sure, like
the uh, you know, the nails. I really want to bbl but I need to gain some weight, so they have sort of take it. I I'm I'm a very tiny person. Uh. A lot of people think I I think I have bead, being big dick energy and with a has a personal opinion. But people think I'm like five eight five nine, like five four if that? Wow? Okay, yeah, I would have thought a little like model tall, not quite like you know, model like six ' two or whatever. But I would have said five eight five nine.
Everybody everybody does, And I'm like, no, if you throw like my car keys on the fridge, it's gonna be a bad day, you know, like and like you know, self tannered. So there's all these like physical aspects that I'm taking steps towards. I would love to get like my nose done. I'd like to get a yell. There's like little to nothing I don't think I would do. Honestly, I grew up watching like a lot of anime cartoons. I love making art, and I love like making
comics to be honest, and writing things like that. So I love that these cartoonish like impossible via nature curves of a woman. And I think my end goal bimblification basically is to look like a caricature of a woman while still looking not grotesquely fake. Sure, now I think that makes sense. You know, people could do whatever they want to do to make themselves happy.
That's kind of my thing on it, as long as you're not like, not you the general you fucking kids or dogs or something that's not my concern. Whatever anyone wants to do. But sometimes, although it is not normally my jam, see a blonde girl make tiss and he's just like, wow, man, she is something else. Now, I can cut this out if you'd like me too. Did you pay for those quote unquote melons? I'll let me ask, do you fucking think for ten seconds I did?
Or do you think doing what I do and having so many men obsessed with me and knowing that they could never fuck me and the only way to please me is a monetary do you think I paid for them? Numberrong answers. I think you probably took out a low interest credit card and you went in and you were like, Okay, you never needed one because Huck for them and he loved doing it. Now, when a guy does that, does he get like such a special place on your list? Or is it kind
of like he wants to be pushed down the list? Or I don't. I literally cannot comprehend you ask, like what he's expecting or how I where he falls in my little rolodex. Well, if you know his perspective and what he would want out of it, share that if you'd like to. But also where are you going with that? Do you secretly push him up but let him know he's stole a piece of shit? Or oh it's not a secret, I'll let him know, like, hey, you became a
priority here out of but it is You're a priority. And I'm trying to think of how I might have said this at one point. You're like a priority and a literal basket of like expired like deviled eggs. Like it's not really that much of a compliment from me. Sure, sure you are. You're the least rotten apple in my busheld like you're like the prettiest like piece of ship, like you know what I mean? Like no, uh, And you know, to be honest, I do give credit words due.
I'll be like, you're you know, good boy, you're so sweet, like you know, I love that you did this. I'm I'm so happy so much so that you know and this this is this was the exchange. Honestly, there was a reward for this person Mom and Dad, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna let you make a box that is basically a toilet and there's a cutout for your fucking head. I want you to put you know, d rings on the side, so I can, you know, cuff you uh so you can't move and I'm mirror may just straight up
ship in your fucking mouth and you can there and fucking hang out. What a guy? What a guy? This guy sounds like a real gem here. I like the sound of this guy. The missives have the balls of steel. They do the balls of people you've ever met. Now, I'm not super into it, honestly, it grosses me the fuck out, but for like that, I'm into anything. Basically for this, I'll kill a man. Ball busting. What is ball busting? And do you do it?
It's self explanatory, I understand that, but you know, maybe the more intricate details. So I'm not super into it, to be real with you, but it's sort of how I can now recognize that I've always been set up for a femdom ball busting. It's just torture the shit out some balls, and I love that. I love to see I wouldn't see a pain on any man's face. However, I'm much more of a psychological I
like inflicting emotional pain because it's like permanent. Also, I'm at I'm not gonna lie, like I'll make you breakfast and then I'll pick you a pardon, make you a question your entire existence. It's fine. But I remember being twelve thirteen and I had a my my boyfriend at the time and his best friend, and I would use my little feminine wiles to just make them hit each other in the balls. And I would like, you know,
be just pitim dos all the time. And that never really went away, right, Like I just love to like kind of inflict some sort of uh yeah. There there's a list of odd behavior I exhibited as a as a child that was like, oh okay, that was a Dahmer did too. What were some of your odd behaviors as a child. Oh, man, I don't know. I mean, I think I might be autistic, so like it's kind of it's a gray area here. I think, I know there's a really good example there with me. It's like the ball bus and
think, oh, here we go. That's it. I used to love to put all of my boyfriends into like doing their makeup and making my guy friends kiss, just being really like, oh my god, me is like just make them. Can't like just kiss guys like it'd be so much fun, and they're like, okum, stupid, And the joy that would wash over my face when one was clearly not about it and the other one was and would not say it. Wow, that is rough. I am glad I never ran into a chick like you, because I, yeah, I
would just kiss the dude too. Probably well honestly you'd have the same wife, but you'd like sucking cocks in your spirit whatever. I just kidding. That's another thing about my my I've done a lot of the sissy cuck thing. It's just it's endlessly fascinating. It really is. So Okay, that's I want to get into this last thing about DOMI and then we'll just run through some of the things you're comfortable with not comfortable with let people know.
Actually, first let me ask you this, are you interested in ever doing like mainstream shoots or you just you're doing your own thing totally in d Thank you for asking that question. I'll try to be I'll try to make this brief, I'm very interested in doing some main stream stuff. I'm not totally interested in just beg shit, I have my price, you know, and if it's like not super uh out of the way, yeah, fuck it. You know. I love SAgs and I'll like to just abuse men like
I like to, you know, treat like a lady sometimes. But I'm mainly interested in mainstream stuff because I fucking hate and I'm sorry whoever's watching this if it pertains to your career about fucking hate fem doom porn as it is right now interesting, what's wrong with it? Everything is wrong with it. The men that I talk to, and these are real submissive men, not just some dude who's like I want to wear panties at some point, like maybe like let a girl laid me in the balls. You know. These
are like like lifestyle subs, and these are the guys. This is like your bread and butter audience. All porn is written by and four men. Okay, but so is fem doom porn, and they toddly fuck out of submissive. Still, that's why you can't find extreme extreme femdom porn like you can women. Let's say there's like a gang bang. Right, that woman is being fucking for all times of purpose, just like tourd up right. Uh. And you would never find that happening to a man important, even
if he's the same level of the same level of submissive. So I'm not you looking like that. I can't tell you you're wrong, mistress, but what I will say is we've broken it down with other porn stars before. There are definitely there are two types of gang bangs. And there's there's one hundred percent of the one you said, ragdall this chicks or rag doll,
We're just gonna toss her around. Everything's consensual, but still. But then there's also the other side, where there is more of a dominant female, not in the way you like. I assume you'd probably want it to go even further more extreme. But there are gang bangs where it's the girls like this one over here, now fill this hole, this one, pick another
one. I got two more Da da da da da da da. I'll be honest with you, I prefer the and and what you said I could not be more polar opposite when you said you don't like seeing dix important. Throw more in there for me. You know, have Matt likes to watch them line up down the block, Okay, but I do prefer those gang
bangs where it's a female is in charge and run in the show. It's definitely more morally sound, right, there's something to me, and I don't know if the men who have agreed with me are trying to placate me where it's almost uncomfortable watching the girls, you know, Like, dude, it's so full of fucking cogs and coum you know, she's like crying and she's cletally like a having some suffering, and it's inherently it's it's honest, I'm
gonna say it. Fuck it. That sort of gang bang is inherently abusive too, and that's why I think a lot of men like it. These Andrew Tait little motherfuckers, but worked up. And the thing that you're talking about that there's no shame in the gang bang. No shame in the gang bang. See that home with you was free. That's a shirt, but that's a bumper sticker. I'm gonna make it to him, No, that's fine. And honestly, a woman knowing what she fucking wants is hot to
uh. The vast majority of men. I uh, I know what I want to fucking eat any any day of the week, and I've never had a man that did say, thank fucking god. So they go, they give me this cock here here and here in buzz here. Yeah, she wants it. She's not a't she doesn't look like a victim too, She's engaging, and she fucking loves dick. Right, But with I was gonna say, oh my god, I don't lose this point. I'm sorry, guys, I have terrible adhd. I went away with men. You just
wouldn't find anything close to that. Oh, remember my point. I will say this until the cows come home. Nobody cares or likes dick more than men. And I'll as far as say straight men, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I've often I've been quoted on this show as saying lesbian born is for chicks, got you gotta gotta have a dick in there? You. I think for men it comes from I don't know. There's some shitty guys who are like, I want to see that you get the fucking you
know, everything railed out of her. And then there's there's I, oh man, I'm gonna sound like such a fucking cuck. But hey, I'm on that with the right person. I'm me, Okay, this is really too personal, So I gotta get real close to this. My wife. I make sure she finishes up two or three times with whatever means necessary before I even get one, because look again, looks wise. You know, I'm not exactly I'm doing well on this. I'm not exactly killing I'm not
Joe Rogan, I'm not plugged talk. But the only thing I can do is I got to put in the effort I feel like, and I got to make sure I get the mission accomplished banner behind me, Like George Bush. Go ahead, two questions. Why does pleasing your wife? How is that at all related to being a cook? And be uh? Answer that? And then answer this question. Where does the sense of accomplishment? Where does that come from? Is it is it is finishing the job? Is
that more for her? Or is it for you? Whatever answer you have, I have a follow up. But we don't have to Sugar, Oh you can. You can say anything you want to rip you a parstir. Come on, let's go. Oh, I don't know, I'm pretty trust me. Listen to the comedy show. I'm a nasty. He just called me the viper. Uh, No one ever called me that. So my thing is, why does it make me cook? I don't know. Toxic
masculinity has invaded my soul. I would assume I grew up with a tough dad, not abusive or anything like that, but a guy who my dad never took a automotive class, a welding class or whatever, and he could do it when he looked at it. And to me growing up, seeing that that is what a real man was, a guy who could take care of the people in his family. And I got it. You know, women can work too. I just had a discussion on my comedy show.
If my wife started selling her art and I became a stay at home dad, fucking I would never give that up, Bud, never a chance. But now that the second part of it, the accomplishment, I understand where you want to go with this one, not that you're setting me up and it just just you know, is it perhaps that you want to feel accomplish?
The truth is it's probably fifty to fifty. There is a real unselfishness to me that It's like, I love my wife so much that I need to make sure she's happy at all times, like I try my best. If she's even just a little depressed, nothing I did. I'm just that adds. So you said that, I mean people are not even gonna be able to listen to this if we weren't like taking turns talking, it would
just be like like snowballs. Oh like snow too. Yeah it's great, but uh yeah, no, no, no, I understand where your perspective is. I think most men are probably where you're kind of leading with that, where it's like these guys want to feel like the tough guy made to come. That's great for me. It's like, please don't leave me in the morning, that's so sweet. You're making a lot of assumptions here.
I don't know that you know where I'm going with this. It is not to say that you're misogynistic and you know, and I don't think if you're first of all, and I'm gonna say it, if you don't eat pussy, I don't trust you. I don't either. You're you're suspicious and you're one of the guys who messages me pretending to be you know, a black man, and you want to hear me like shame white cook, like you're your sus and I I'll fuck with you. That happens a lot. By
the way, I'm not into race play. That that is a boundary. I was gonna ask boundaries race play is out, then I don't. But can you say, can you call me the N word? Like I would really prefer not to. Man. Uh, I've had I've talked to a lot of black performers and they're split on it. Oftentimes, even some of the biggest names like Anna Fox is you know a VN Hall of Famer this
and that. She's like, yeah, I'm totally cool with it, and then other other African American performers are like no, never, never, And I get it. I get it both ways. I think it's real important that the choice is theirs, uh, whether they want to request it or not. But then the choice is also yours. Where you go. I
set limits and I'll do that. Well, okay, I will entertain one form of race play that like I'm oh, fuck I oh, somebody accustomed I'll do that this but this uh, this guy messaged me and he's like, tell me, uh, I want you to make a video for me telling me how you're so discussed with my little white shrimp dick, and I don't deserve to pro create, and all, like the best I can do is maybe coming and coming up here meet and how much you love black cock.
It's such internalized misogyny and homophobia. And I think more more importantly here in the uh, in the context of race play, it's racism. And I don't think these people are inherently but some of them straight the fuck up bar sure, it's uh, it's it's uh, we're culturally kind of just this, this is embedded in us, right, and it comes out in a weird, weird way, and uh that this is just a white man's fetish straight straight the fuck up. So it's it's insecurity, right and uh.
Actually a lot of people message me and they're like, hey, can we do spades? And like, who who said that? I don't identifies that I'm an equal opportunist, uh, you know, or you know, just like I'll give any dick a chance. It's a racist concerned and whatever, but it's a weird assumption to make. So I look like this, right, I look hot, Right, I'm I'm an attainable in this person's
eyes very clearly, So I must like black dicks. I must like big dick, and you're assuming that this, you know, it's just it's it's odd, it's odd behavior. But whatever. There's a lot of cucks that are just you know, they want the black guy to come on screen.
He never takes the socks off, like that's what they're into. And I also wanted to make the point, and this sort of plays into generally what we're just speaking about, cuckholding a porn being a femdom and cuphold orn being way too accommodating and coddling two men cut holding and porn and honestly, sometimes in real life, if not most of the time, not about the woman has nothing to do with the woman. The woman is a vehicle to get to a cock. Are you okay with that? With cucks you have in
regular life? I used to h invite guys over to just fuck my fiance while I just watched and put a foot in his face and just told me he's a loser. And that wasn't for me, honestly, it was for him because it does like, you're just a cock hungry little bitch And I want to go watch, you know, fucking Jeopardy and I'm sick of fucking hearing you talk about dick. So yeah, I'm like, guy, so whatever, and it's it's that was my version of being a supportive partner.
Thank you. That was wonderful. You deserve an applause for that. I believe I do. I'm a fucking uh, I'm a saint, I'm a I'm an icon. I'm just kidding. But it was just like, listen, I'm okay with it to an extent. Uh, when the lines get blurred, which they actually did at some point. My uh, my ex fiancee was he proposed having a sapphic relationship with me and his only you know, resemblance of a sex life is with guys. I was like, no,
man, absolutely not. And that's dude. If that's the case, Like, I'm going to block you on every single platform phone number I have, and you can just start talking to me on the other website again where you found me. And he said, say she was a formal client. Budge, here we are. Hear that folks keep funneling the money in and
maybe wink wink, fuck these guys, they're never gonna get you. Maybe someday you can be engaged to Kira oh my god, uh I have I have one more question than the basics, which is just to give people the idea of what you're into and this and that pegging gay question mark No, fucking no, having something in your ass is not synonymous with homosexuality. And if you think that, I'm sorry, you're just fucking retarded. Now you're not. But but like, but maybe you're Maybe you're not a you're denying
yourself an educational experience. I every man on this planet, including you, Matthew, would be better off having been pegged, at least once it's humbling. You have a g spot in there. My organists feel a million times better than yours. And I know that's that's an enview that a lot of men do have. Fucking have the dr same one, dude gay cover with your AI. It's okay, okay, I'm gonna go with pegging, not
gay. Not for matt It's almost like Australia, like I don't think it should be burned to the ground, but they have so many deadly animals there. I have no interest in going right. You can be not into it. I think that's okay, But I don't think you can. I don't think you can fully be against it or uninterested. If there hasn't been more than there's to be a little more than a consideration. I think you should try something in there, right, Sure, no use like a smooth weird
like it's a little double sided vibrator situations. You know, I was going to use an egg whisky. You could use a weed whacker. You could I mean, listen, at some point, slippery slope, I end up this guy pull hand in his ass. Okay, yeah, that does to scare you off. No, it's it's fine. It's not gay. Your body big over once. It's too short to worry about whether or not you should figure your bottle pegging in Australia. About the same level of interest for
me personally. Okay, let's go through the basics. Uh, you are going to be booked for a mainstream scene that you're actually very interested in. But it is a standard boy girl. Maybe it's not a boy girl. You can pick it. But let's say it's not like a fun dom scene and you are interested. Maybe the money's really good, maybe the performers you're going to get to work with, maybe the company, the exposure, whatever it is. So tell me what is off the table, and what is
on the table? What is something you're interested? Let's run through the list. Is is a gang bang on the table? Oh? God see, I'm going to answer all of these questions like I'm getting paid a a standard amounts. Almost everything has a number and I don't know if I'm right or wrong for that, but whatever off? Well yeah, no, sorry you cut out there. What was that? Oh no, I'm not about it. Okay, all right, anal off I give, I do not receive.
That's fair. I was gonna I was gonna make that joke earlier. I go anal pitcher or catcher? Which one are you interested in? Now? You may have hinted at something before anything in the realm of come. Where do you sit with that? Man? I love cream pies, I do. I don't think I have a breeding fetish buy of something very close to it. I don't know how to describe it. Do not fucking come in my mouth? I course, no, not here for what if they're
asking for that, suck a dick, dumb shit. No, pay me a lot of money and I'll pretend like it's my favorite thing in the world. Okay, all right, there are our facials and in between, or we just I mean, did we just not even bring that up? It's a case basis all right, fair enough, I think that's fair. Uh. And uh for the legacy of my former co host, what are your views on piss love it, love it? Love it it is? Uh? I had somebody to describe once as sensually demeaning. I could not disagree
more. I think it's actively hilarious and demeaning. And uh, you know, I have the bladder. This is the size of maybe like a kidney bean. So it's it's always in stock, and there's a million fun ways
to play with it. And nothing feels quite as accomplishing as pissing directly into a man's mouth and he just has a wad of cash where he has ven mo Er cash up something pulled up, and he hands you the phone or the money he's if you know, it's just just the exchange of that is just so absurd, and they're they're entranced and enthralled, and I'm just like, this power is gonna do dangerous things to my community. I cannot walk around feeling like this. The statistic it's yeah, I love it, okay,
but I'm assuming that's a one way street. Then right, man, listen, listen to me real well, if you pissed anywhere the fuck near me in a sexual way, I'm gonna leave in a squad car. So let's let's not do that. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Uh, We're gonna wrap up here. I kept you way too long. But
you are a fascinating, interesting, gorgeous person. Do you have anything can you tell the audience, because that was a great thing you said earlier, or when you talked about posting to random like OnlyFans twitters or this or that or whatever it is, can you tell the audience what they can expect from any kind of content they get from you, whether it's clips their watch and they're buying, whether it's a sex panther like. I hope this episode did
a good example of like creating more of a personal personality. I know that sounds stupid, but I'm going to go sign up right now. I liked hearing this girl talk blah blah blah blah blah, this woman apologies. I call them chicks and women. I get in trouble for that. Uh what am I getting when I go to your link and start buying content from you. I think that's a good question that has two answers. If you're buying generic clips, be aware that I've probably made them in just recording myself and
my little shenanigans, and they're weren't likely something authentic. So you're not going to see a whole lot of you're not gonna hear this voice, so you know, you fucking cut loser. You know you're gonna You're gonna see me in action, right, And I know that this interview might not have made it. A lot of men super turned on other watch it. Just mute it and long's fine. But uh, you'll see me in my natural habitat
uh. And I think the most important thing is it's real. If you order something from me, something custom, you would be doing yourself a huge favor by letting me get to know you for a couple of days. Interesting. Yeah, interesting. I want to close with this if you don't mind, or I don't know if we're closing, but getting there. My biggest advantage of a DOM is that I want to get to know you on a deep level. I I'm very very good at pulling things out of people in
a consensual manner, which might sound off brand for me. But you know, I, like I said, I was a psych major in college. I really wanted to be a psychologist in some way or another. And I and when I ask people questions about their lives and this, that and the other, it is coming from a genuine place of interest. I'm not feigning that that does not work to me. That is a fulfilling and we don't
have to go that deep. But if I know a little more about you, I can make this this video in a way that is going to be very very appealing to you because I have some context to work with. So it's not just recycled bullshit, femdom jargon. Air fair. I think that's all fair. I do have not one more question, but a a a type or genre of porn that has become very more prevalent nowadays that I think you fucking hate. I don't know. Oh, but at my guess again,
I'm reading here. Do you know of this? It's probably not new, it probably came out in the fucking seventies, but it's becoming much more mainstream and big right now. Do you know of free use porn? Oh? I'm not sure what that is. Okay, So I will put you in the scenario, because I know you would hate it and like a real like like I know you said you don't necessarily love jack guys, but this guy cares about his looks and he's good looking and he's got a real quality
dick too. I like good looking men, and they can have muscles. But if that's if that's all the subject, never look better than me. I'm the pretty one. If you hear more about your looks than you do mine, I don't want anything to do with you, and I just write
you off as stupid or whatever. Fair enough, fair enough. So this is what free use porn is. You are at a counter and you were balancing your checkbook as people do in twenty twenty four, and you're wearing some kind of skirt, and this the male performer in the scene just kind of comes up and maybe just kind of slips it in and starts going to town. And you do not even acknowledge him whatsoever. You were just kind of
up up. Her audio is not there, but she just went, oh, you're so smart, mad I bet your dick is bigger than five inches. Wrong anyway, continue, I'm kidding. That's a joke. It's a comedy show. So you have heard of this before, you've heard of what it is. I've only heard of it in the context of a male sissy being the free you slut. So I want you to continue, but a light bulb moment, and I have a feel for what it is if you can get if you could run with the rest of the example and helpful.
But oh, I mean, there's not much more to it. It's just
your kind of you're engaged in day to day activity. The big one I think is a girl kind of laying on her stomach playing video games and a guy will come up and just kind of whoop, and then it's almost you know what I wonder if it honestly is a little like dominant female in the sense that when you look at free use, it's kind of like she's not even acknowledging this loser, like he's getting off, he's doing his but I don't know, fuck him man, So she's not reacting at all, not
really, No, that's that's I'd have to think about that. My initial reaction is, uh, like the one at the bank, right, like there's no religion to these two people, right, it's giving it said, it's given it's given some rape vibe. I'm just gonna say it, but I get that, yeah for sure. Yeah. And and I think that's probably the appeal of it, is so anonymous and she just doesn't fucking care. Uh. But I would imagine the other appeal of it. I mean,
let's just let's just be real here. If you're just walking up and just banging some bitch and she's just that she's she's cashing a check from her deceased real grandfather. We don't know why she tway for why she have check whatever. It is very much that I would imagine the thought process that a man has in his day to day life, like, oh, I'd love
the better of that counter, she's cute or you know, sure. So it's uh, it's taking that to an extreme that I honestly, I feel like that's sort of a that's a playing with fire genre that you know what I mean, I don't, I don't totally, I don't, I don't live, I don't, I don't live laugh or love that. Uh. And I think the lack of acknowledgement from the girl, I see what you're saying, and that could be true, but I don't think that it is.
I think it's having her so her her as a person, her samanity is so irrelevant to his sexual experience, like we should, we don't even need a reaction And the fact that she is not reacting is hotter because she's more anonymous. And honestly, I think that's sort of a subconscious uh way of saying, like she's she's irrelevant as a as a person, and that's there it to me. I guess, I guess I totally understand that side. I guess it's perspective in the perspective of the person, and that's what
makes porn so interesting, so much fun. And that's why you should go to Kia Loovelace dot com. I'm gonna spell it out because most of our audience is illiterate k I R A l O v E l a c e dot com. That's gonna take you to her link tree and from there you can find ways to pay her. You can find ways to pay her by buying content. You can find ways to pay her by talking to her.
You can find ways to send her money and never acknowledge you. But I also want you to check out her Twitter and Instagram at Kira Lovelace x X and if you want to find her on sex Panther, which we talked about earlier, you can go and find her at kik e k I k I cakes with two s's at the end links to everything is going to be in the episode description. Kira, thank you very much for coming on with us tonight. Thank you for having me. This was a lot of fun.
And any any gentleman colors who might be watching out who want to come talk to me or order or something. Uh, I am not usually this casual, just just for the w records, So so what I would say and what I thought was really interesting as we wrap this one up real quick is you could hear when Kira here was talking about custom videos and getting to know
you first, if that's not your thing. Everyone understands that, I mean, there's a thing for everybody, but know that if you're getting this isn't some girls sitting on her couch going like, oh my god, I love getting stuffed. It's great. It sounds like Kire here is going to put in time and effort into crafting something for you like a crafts woman crafts woman does, and I definitely think you should, you know, reach out and
try and put something together here. Thank you very much for coming on tonight. Thank you for having me buy something that actually uh men watching buy something from me that is not the same thing that you've seen ten million brilliant times. That's what you don't walk into a great director's movie expecting a standard grom com, and in this instance, it's kind of the same thing. Know
what you're going into. If you've gotten this foreign into the interview, you obviously know her personality here, likes what she's interested in, whatever else. Push it for your worst friend, brand new faces. I'm Matt and I will see you next week.