You're watching your worst friend brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt and I'm joined today by my friend and co host Shane. What's up today we have a very special guest with us, young lady in Spoiled Ivory. You can find Spoiled Ivory on Twitter at Spoiled Ivory, Instagram, I am Spoiled Ivory, loyal fans Spoiled Ivory, and on my free cams. Spoiled Ivory
Underscore links to everything is going to be in the episode description. So if you didn't understand that, or if you're not a good speller, I get it. You're one of our audience. Uh not a great speller, go into the episode description. Figure it out, Ivory. Thank you very much for coming on with us today. Oh thanks for having me so right off the bat, let's figure it out. Your however many years old and it clicks in your head and you go, I really want to get into adult
films. I want to start doing something in the world. When is that and what is the first thought that goes through your head? Okay, So I actually have a background in search engine optimization. I come from like the marketing world, or I did for a year before it burnt me out, and I said the ROI. I did the research on the ROI of this and was like why not, like you know, like comfortable and like, don't get me wrong, I have been you know, I've done things that
have I would have gone back and not done over ten years. But it helped me find my niche like my category. Okay, Now, I mean where you doing marketing for? I mean you don't have to say names obviously, but was it like a major corporation? Was it like a marketing firm? Was? Yeah, it was kind of like venture capitalists. Okay, start out well, so and I'm going somewhere with this. What was your gig there? Like did you have like were you I don't even know what
marketing I started out. I started out as a freelance writer, Like I literally wrote those like shitty like paragraphs of nonsense on the Internet you look through and you're really looking for like information, and they're cluttered with links ads. If you try and look at them on mobile, your ship just kind of crashes. So you mean like those articles where it's like okay, okay,
That's where I started and eventually I ended up. I think my official title was press coordinator, an outreach specialist, so I was like the head of a department. So where I'm going with that is there of all the girls we've interviewed, we've read a lot of them at this point, major names, new place, just breaking in everything. I know, it's really shocking
we've gotten here. Like, I mean, one minute, you're just fucking watching yourself get three downloads and then yeah, two hundred and seventy episodes later. Yeah. Yeah. But all the girls we've talked to, they all tend to have a common trend. So it's either a psychology background or marketing
or advertising background is what I've picked up on. And I'm just I'm wondering if there's when you're working in marketing, if you think to yourself, like if the click, like I said before, is like, why the fuck am I marketing this company over here when all these other people are cleaning up? I know I'm good at marketing, Why don't I just market myself?
Yes, that's kind of what happened at a certain point. You know, I was being overwork and underpaid, so I was like really doing what three people should have been doing, you know, within one week, and honestly, like I One of the steps along the way to press coordinator was I was a research a research specialist. Okay, Oh, I would just go in and research facts on all sorts of different stuff, so like you could find something relevant to link the bullshit you don't want to click onto. Okay,
okay, so right, that makes sense. So wow, that sounds like a really stupid job. It really was. Was that just like soul crushing? Yes, the amount of the amount of information I have on cosmetic dentistry, we'll never read my brain. And that alone that into a career. Moved to Saudi Arabian do teeth. Yeah, like, yeah, not for me. Let me, let me ask because that's actually an interesting question
about that. So are you gathering random facts like you're writing an article or whatever about Taylor Swift and you really need to push somebody to a travelocity or fucking Expedia link or something like that, So you'd be like Taylor, who's gonna be uh, who's seen vacationing with a boyfriend and Travis Kelcey in you know, Spain, blah blah blah blah blahhh, and then in Spain you put that link right or somewhere near Okay, it's all about relevancy, and
at that time, like we were attempting to use small businesses and the articles on their website to gain traffic by like linking legitimate news, so it was kind of a reverse okay, okay, So we were kind of like, if I link like NBC in the same article that I've got like this cosmetic dentistry, like the algorithm would move a higher order the relevancy of the sources.
So I don't hate you as much as I hate the YouTube people who put up like this person's performance from the Grammys last night, and I go, all right, let me click and watch this, let me see this performance, and it's just somebody with still shots going uh Taylor Swift performed last night at the Grammys, and he's like, hey, man, if you could fucking die, I would like, yeah, not either. I just
want to watch the performance. I don't want to see still shots of these fucking people anyway, It'll see Taylor Swift Grammy's performance in parentheses, Yeah, all caps. One of my favorites is like, I'm gonna let you finish. But the best video. Oh yeah. We were just doing a we were recording our comedy show before this, and we referenced the jay Z did
the same thing last night in a sense kind of. He was up there going he was accepting another award, and he was saying, look, I don't know how someone could have more nominations than anyone or more wins than anyone in the history of the Grammys, which is Beyonce and not win Album of the Year. Right. Uh. Anyway, we gotta get back to you about you, not this random shit. This is not the A D D
Hour with Shane and I both have I mean for that too. To be honest, A lot of my job is like, is very much this okay, So tell me talking to losers on the internet that fucking wins, you know, I mean, like really, what I do I consider to be like the the oldest and most like honest transaction of all time. Sure, it's very like nobody has a misunderstanding about what they want and nobody, you know, nobody has to give something that I don't want to give in a
perfect world. Yes, yeah, this is where we're operating. Yes, yes, in my on my level your word choice, I have made it. I have achieved that. When I was twenty and I started doing this, I was doing shit I absolutely would not do now and go ahead, wow, like not just cam why it's just custom video wise kind of? It didn't put my brand. I didn't know what my brand was yet, okay, and I want to dive into that because you have an interesting brand.
If you I have no problem with you fighting with that. But you're more than welcome to just pop that off if you don't want bothering. It's totally up to you. I was listen, I was planning on it at some point fair enough where HP my mouth shut. Yeah, well we'll let her get to it in moments, right. But what you were saying there was something heard her is talking to losers like us, something saying losers were
not losers were avin Award nominees. Let me ask you this, What was the stuff you did early on that you were against and then I want to start talking about your brand. I don't even want to say against. Okay, it just was it. It didn't feel you know, when something hits in your gut professionally that like I have the drive and inspiration to do this. Sure, so for me, the very basic like cam girl foundation of like you know, solo masturbation girlfriend experience where it's like very like just a
virtual escort sure, which I mean, trust me. Sometimes it's frustrating because there could be a much larger bag waiting for me at the end of that train, but it doesn't longevity wise, keep me focused and yeah, well the early customs are a good way to just kind of like get your handle on a camera and get your face literally posing in front of the camera and all that. So it's like what I want to on the culture itself,
right, Yeah, it is like something you have to adapt to. It's like I feel like probably after a while you get to a point where it's like maybe you realize like it's the first time you're like, you know, I don't want to do this request, you know, like yeah, it's not something on your at at flat out no list, but you know what
I don't feel like saying. And there are guys anymore, there are you know, there are still certain things that fall into the gray area of where I'm at and what the offer is and like you know, every you know, everything has a price up to my hardline, you know, like my herd line is not my soft line. Let me answer, Okay, that is a question. We get into and then I want to get into your niche because in how old am I twenty five years of hugging my dick,
I've never heard of your niche before. So we got we got to dive into that. But what are your hard lines? Where would you say your hard line? You know, where's the gray area start? And then where's the go right? You know, I'll give you a hard lines are like obviously some very basic things like race play, no age, well, h play. I will say this, there are people that do it for me. It's a non starter. Okay, Okay, you don't necessarily cast Judd
no I, No, I do. I judge the shit out of those I have a very I don't think it helps make what the reality of that is outside of the adult world not more rampant. Oh you mean like seventy year old dentists Mary and twenty year old Asian broads. Well o, No, I mean down to like the sea, like the baby fetish. Okay, that's to see, That's what I was going to ask. I was
fires up, like that's a hard ack line for me. Like, no, I was going to say, as I get older, I'm thirty six, Now I could see myself, Like I'd like to hear a girl tell me she's eighteen blah blah blah blah blah. But we've heard requests where it's like, tell me you're thirteen. It's like, hey, how about I tell the FBI you said that? Like are you talking about is that what you're talking about in race? Or I'm not talking about young college girl in
a plaid skirt. Sure you're talking about young girl scout in a plaid script. Yeah, or like the guy wants to be a baby and like, okay, that's just see that one that's less predatory and more no, but it can always flip. You never know what's going on. Yeah, I got attacked by a baby one time, so that's fair. I agree. What about what about like, well, my kind of age play is like
you would have to pretend to be much much older. That's that's fine with me, That's okay, Like it's all about it's all about like your mental ability to consent or the fantasy thereof Oh well see you might have a little dementia. Well okay, we're going into like relative care. Yeah then I think I mean I can work with you, but like I'm going to need you to stay on camera that this was consensual first, okay, okay, okay, Ivory, I sent you the money through Venmo now here. I
need you to go out and get a walker. Okay, Like stranger things have been request What is the strangest request I've ever gotten? Oh gosh, the strangest request if you don't think of a scenario, so I will. I will say this. There is somebody on my free camps that always comes into my room and wants me to smoke a cigarette and use a hair dryer at the same time, which sounds like a disaster to me. Sounds like his mother was doing that in the sixties. Yeah, yeah, I know
a lot of it. I always I'm like, well, who hurts you? Sure? Yeah? Who blamed you with a hair dryer and cigarette? You know? Not to get graphic, but there was a guy that really enjoyed me watching him do a certain substances. Not to get graphic, what is what are the substances? Was he railing lines of ship like what is? What is? No? I mean actual drug or what I could allegedly what looks like drugs? Who is? And then he he wanted to shove
hot cheetos up his urethra whoa crushed them with a boot? Oh my god, I just need the audience to know. I held back because we try and not bring up politics on here, but I was going to ask you how Hunter Biden doing what you said? He wants to watch you rail line or watch them rail lines. Again, not political, just just just topical. So you actually did this. You crushed this guy's cheet o'cock. So it went from me watching him do it on the internet. You're doing like
a real time session, Like, what's what's a real in person? Yeah? In person? Okay, So like, and I'm very selective about how I do that. There's a lot of safety precautions involved in like anything surrounding. It's going to meet somebody in person, and it's typically I typically have a long standing online relationship with them. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen them face to face. I'm like, I can kind of gauge whether you're a
complete psychopath or not. And even if they are, like secretly and you you're not wise enough to pick up there's so much evidence that even if they get you, he's caught, you know, because of all the communications and everything else, and will be avenged. Yeah, I've got backups after backups on like you know you're not getting away with it. But yeah, that's one of the weirder ones. I would say another like that that's just popped
into my head. I did a video of like Penteclastal like snake dancing Christianity like speaking in tongue. Oh I love that. See that's cool. I like I like it because I'm very sacrilegious, like religious rama on ten still like yeah, I was like ging into that one. I'm I'm feeling you on that. But it's just I I agree, like the anti religious stuff is cool. But do you do you have like a thing where it's like when you hear like some crazy requests where it's like, holy shit, I
would have never thought of that. I'll give you an example where my wife got one where it's a she had to suck God's dick. So she's in a nun's outfit and she it's like a POV blowjob where she blows God as a nut. Yeah wow, Yeah, creative minds. And I remember thinking like that's awesome. You know that. I mean honestly though, the idea of that bait like that would sell. Yeah, as a general clip sure would sell. What's your favorite idea someone's given you? Like you're like your
favorite like, oh wow, I never thought of that, hypnoes. It's honestly, like, nobody's ever given me an idea better than my own. All right, let's talk about it. Then, let's jump into it. Your niche, your little piece of the internet you carved out for yourself, is what is there rad a hypnosis? Okay? And what the hell does
that mean? A rock band? So it's a very niche topic and it's also very difficult to work your way around some of the legalities of it, Like you have to in certainly because state by state it's like you have to be licensed. So I have to start by asking, like, do you
you understand this is all for entertainment? I have no like I have no actual training in like therapeut dignosis to throw the waiver lines up, Yeah, like I do, and like I'll be I'll tell you there are there are situations where I'm if I didn't, I would be wondering about what would happen. So are you like a lawyer commercial where they're like, You're like,
I'm only licensed in Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Virginia. Ye, that was like you know when I when my website's finally back up and run and get like that's the fine rent. Yeah, okay, all right, fair enough those states just in case, like, there's never a situation where you shouldn't think about worst case scenario content. Well that's how could this so how could it go wrong? I'm guessing I'm guessing it's a consent issue, right, is
the concern? Yes, it's a consent issue. So it's more about like you know, if you want to parallel it to giving somebody, somebody something in their drink that makes them less able to access their inhibitions. Okay, So it's about taking somebody's like free will away. Oh okay, Okay, that makes it a leal problem. Now, so what if what if? Okay, so what if we you're just filming content like and it's and it's
consenting adults? Is it? Is it a legal problem for people to portray a scene of somebody losing their No, no, no, no no. But what happens is a lot of the clip sites these days, a lot of like campsites, like you can't hashtag hypnosis, you can't hashtag it like they've just blacked that, you know, it's blacked out, and or they'll remove it for their own to save their own asses for sure. Yeah, they're covering themselves. So we're seamless as child porn, right, So like,
yeah, it's just crazy that's in the same group. I mean, but I get the reasoning because, like, as somebody who is coming up into owning a what like I bought a website recently that I plan to make like very thinndum oriented and not just like that saying that. So so in the hypnosis play though, is it always okay? So it's it's dynamic,
so I can attach it to any fetish you have. Okay, So say you have a foot fetish, I can use that and come up with a dialogue or like a way to like, you know, kind of play the role and integrate your fetish into it. So I like girls who speak Chinese. Listen, Hey, Chinese girls can also be hypnotized. So I guess she could hypnotize me into thinking that her English was perfect Mandarin. Okay,
that's but like that, I'd like it's working. I can't understand you at all, honestly, that that hits so close to home in terms of like how out there, like really well are in terms of what they want? Which you know, I'm not here to king shame. No, no, but I'm pretty good with letting just words flow. I don't really need a script at this point. Sure, I've kind of done it so many times where I have like a it's almost like a mad lips that doesn't filled out.
I get it. We have outlines on how we do interviews, and then I add my own being asked to that was asked for. Okay, all right, so okay, are you all right? Are you hypnotizing them every time? That is the It's not the other way around. You wouldn't have it that way. So are you? Is this all right? Again? Within the realm of weird? Uh? Not weird of me not understanding is what I should have said. No, but I get it. You're a domb. You're a domb every time. Yes, I am a dom.
You are just a dumb yeah, yes, okay, you don't switch at all. There's no submissiveness in you. What if the dude look like broads? I will say this, Okay, I do girl girl situations. We're all do the full on nude because I mean, it's enjoyable to me. Oh so you don't need to get full on nude with the guy situations. No, do you get nude at all? Oh well, I'm gonna say this, Okay, I there is a tier of clientele that could access that. Okay, it's not it's not anybody walking into my my free camps
room without you know, with tokens. Sure, it's it's the guy with a beamer, I understand, the Mercedes multiple Okay, it's usually like, honestly, my my target demo is usually like just retired. Okay. Oh yeah, see that's who I age play as. Yeah, just so who how do you advertise this if all the things are like cutting you off at
every turn, I'll tell you what. They would not let us post or videos on X videos at all whatsoever, even though we had some of the biggest name porn stars in the world, because they said, oh, well, you don't have any nudity. This is a porn site. So we're like, hey, well, what if we can find some form of nudity on some of them? Because like I'll be honest with you, me and Shane, I'm not going to ask somebody like goth Charlotte, like, oh, you got to take your top off. That I mean, I'm not
doing no, no, but I get it. Like this was kind of like, I'll be very real. This was kind of my compromise between like to hold my dominance totally understand, totally, we appreciate. I know you want to see it. I'm fine. Like for the exposure, I'm fine. Like the value is it could possibly be equitable enough, So like there are shots where I will you know, I do do topless things, okay, topless only boom down. Yeah, yeah, it would be a tragedy
if you didn't. If I'm being honest with you. Yeah, I mean like I've just been too blessed and not sure. That would be like if I had a twelve inch stick and it was thick and I was like, I don't know, man, I really just think you're going to die wondering. Yeah, that's a fair point. Let me just plug in one more time on Twitter at Spoiled Ivory, Instagram, I am the Letters, I am Spoiled Ivory. Loyal fans Spoiled Ivory and check her out on my free
cams. Show up with a lot of tokens and lie about what kind of car you drive. You find her at Spoiled Ivory Underscore on my hit Me with the Luxuries. So how far are we taking this? Is this your career or are you going to build it independently? And it's my career. I have not worked a single other job in ten years, Okay, makes sense. Are you looking to expand anywhere else, like shoot for any major
site or okay? Yes, So I finally feel now that like I have like a firm grasp on like you know, there's a line between my personal persona and who I show up on CAMAS and I finally feel very comfortable with
kind of the intermashing of the two. Yeah, Like I feel very based in what I know are my hardlines, my soft lines, what I'd prefer to do like creatively on my own, what my ideas are, and that you know doesn't come without I would say, at least five years like on and I'm I'm speaking like on and off in terms of like I could have been gunning at forty hours a week the whole time, and sure been in
a different place noway, but you were doing comquires some downtime. It requires a break every once in a while, sure, like constantly, you know, flooded by messages on the internet from strangers. Does like takes a toll. Huh, It's a toll even if you don't respond. It's just the natural like response to having to acknowledge it. Sure, right now, I get that, Like I ignore every text my mom or dad sends me.
But when I see them piling up in my inbox, I'm just that's when you know you need to like, yeah, hasn't died yet, you know, right, like who died? If you call me? Because you know, like I'm not picking up. So so we talked on Twitter when we were putting this together, and you generally not that you don't love them. You prefer more of the independent artists and creators and performers and stuff like that. It seems like right a wrong, Yeah, no, you're not wrong.
No, Like I respect and honor women that have like inspired me to be my own boss. Okay, because there are a lot of companies out there that are taking, you know, fifty five percent of the cut on a cam site of what you make, and to me, that is just ridiculous. Yeah, no, I would agree. They like they built the infrastruction all the content, you know, Yeah, you know, they're not. They don't have a studio shooting my free cams studio porn. I mean,
my freakams has been great. Sure, I'm gonna be honest. I've been to ABN I worked for I Want Clips at the Booth in twenty eighteen, and I also have been to the Exotica with my free cams. Okay, the way that they treat their mind, like just from my personal experience as Ben Stellar, Okay, awesome, awesome, can I can I ask it? And not to spite the thing you just praised so deeply, But I've been trolling the cam sites obviously looking for new people to be able to
interview and talk to. That's the experience I gave my wife. That's how you found me did online. But it's why I sit there. Sure, let me ask why does it seem like chatter Bait has so many more people in their rooms than my cams? Okay, so my I think there are a lot of different factors going on here. So like they have reached oh
megal status stupid exposure on the internet. Okay, So like when you type in poor and chatterbaits first page, you know, so like they're you know, they have the highest amount of viewers, and then like women, you would think like A to B means I'm going to get more money if there are more viewers. The quality of the viewers, gotcha? Not the same?
Gotcha? Got how invested that the viewer isn't like actually getting to know you and forming like because there is like a bond like even with like people that are in my room every day to like you know, it's like any customer relationship. Sure, the customer, they come in and you go. But professionalism of just like them showing up and always like a regular at the ship club generation. Sure, oh look, Jim's here again. He likes
when I hypnotize him and puts my feet in his mouth. Yeah, and that's like, you know, when you're ready to fucking just like tap out because it's so dead or like you know, like that, those are the people that show up and keep you going. Sure have you ever received anything in any inbox ever that has actually turned you on? Oh? For sure? Really? Now, what is it a chick? Is it a giant dick? Is it a dick in a cage or something like? What turns
you on? I mean I really consider myself to be very sapio sexual. I don't know what that means. Is that I think that's like I'm attracted to intellect. Oh, isn't that pan sexual? No, that just means like across the board jumper walk doesn't really matter, okay, safety sexual. Where my like where I get turned on is when somebody can challenge me with their own intelligence. At you sound like a tough woman, I am. Yeah, that's how you dumb from the possession, Like I don't s for
fools. Really well, I'm the Internet, like I do it every day anyway. Like if I said, like, this is the price for this on my tip menu, and you're like, what does the cost when I have it sitting right there? Wait? Are you telling me you don't want to haggle over your pornography content like it's a Bangladeshi market somewhere. Yes, wow, that's new. Actually most we want to enjoy that. Yeah, you don't want to treat the content you work. It's super hard for like
a Marvel ride, Yeah, like this a little stale. A lot of my work is live like sessions, like private sessions or custom videos. Okay, so I have you know, like my typical like stick on my free cams is not. I think it's the twenty to the eighty percent in terms of like people are there to see me and like get in touch with me about content. Okay, they enjoyed the thrill of seeing me, you know, online because they've done private sessions with me. Sure, okay, so
I get a lot of that. And you know, I've also met people that have been like, at certain times a large percent of my income, especially starting early. Sure, what is uh, what is a fetish you have not yet been able to tackle on film or in person or whatever, something where you're like really sliding out of your seat to try and get this
done, but it just hasn't come to fruition yet. I'll say, like the one that I've been asked about a lot, which I like, in my head I know would make money, sure, but like bad for the brand. It's like also over a year, the like I get hypnotized, Okay, see see I see the I don't know, maybe that dynamic.
I see the appeal in that more than the other one. I don't like the idea of like being hypnotized and then someone tickles me or something or I'm not as I understand right, Sure, Sure, Sure, I think I came into the adult industry under femdom okay, So like really a lot of femdom women would not even show up wearing this, like the topless thing would have been a no go, so good okay, So I didn't even realize
that. So that's how little I know about fem doom in particular, because right I'm into church chicks who are like I like, like a chick who can be dominant and badass or whatever. But I always liked the idea of like a switching roles type of thing. Like we we interviewed Suki Sin recently, who I think of as like a chef's kiss on that one. Yeah,
I know, but she's she's beautiful. Yeah. I find that she has that balance where it's like, you know, she's she's dominant in the sense that she's she she's like forth right, and she's able to communificate very clearly, like what she wants and what she desires and and all that stuff,
but at the same time she can take thirteen inches life. That kind of like where like career wise, I will say, like I've opened myself up to the idea of more things as I am a more established brand Okay, so like when I feel like things aren't going to take away from like my like an initial ten year bill presence on the internet. Sure, well, all right, so let's let's give you a mulligan. Though. Let's say you're going to shoot a scene and in this world there's going to be
no one turned off by it. What is right? What is that scene you want to do? Because it doesn't sound like you would want to be the hypnotized person in that. You know it doesn't, but at the same time, it's like always the one thing that you think is going to give you an dick that like I like personally turned me on, like you know, like you never know. Okay, I really like hot women. I'm big on hot women, and I would like to like do group like they
have like what they call like posing hypnosis. So you go in and you like have somebody freeze and pose them. I'm able to leave that stance or you can re jib I actually just did a clip I will be releaseding sooning like this where you pose them and then you know it's it's intended to look like you're taking advantage of them. Okay, see this this, but but you're not actually you know you're not actually taking advantage, but I thought it
was like you're fucking a mannequin. But I mean, honestly, in my brain, that's what it feels like, Like that's the IMF this is. I just explained this to my wife the other day, because she helps me produce this show. But she great in bed, but she is a prude when it comes to watching and talking about this stuff. Explain to her free use the other day, which like the use, I think my new favorite fetish. It's cool. Yeah, okay, so explain that to me.
Okay, ready, I just want to get you were you were standing up typing on that computer, right, You're just type in blah blah blah, and you have like a skirt on or something, and then somebody, not me, uh not. In my fantasy, somebody would come up and just kind of slide it in you and give you some pomps. Go ahead, go ahead, I'm into that. Okay, here's the thing. You don't break your concentration. You're still got to get I gotta get these emails,
and these numbers aren't going to crunch themselves. One of my favorites is like a girl playing Nintendo Switch that's a free ye. And it's like it's like she's not phased. Mm hm nope. Yeah, it's like she there's no phase. She's still playing freaking Mario. She might not even know she's getting fucked right, Yeah, Like it's like you're not even there. I think it's it's it's its own brand of ignore ignore fetish okay, ignore fetish type
thing. Yeah, Like I think it's like the dismissal of you even like I don't care if you have a fourteen inch dick. I'm still fucking Like that's a good word, dismissal. But you know what's great on the other side of it too, for the mail in that case, it's almost like
there's no judgment. I don't know. Maybe I'm going off my own history here, but I'm like, there isn't There isn't though, Like it's like, if you like to be honest with you with my personal like relationships c NC love it, Like, if I'm comfortable enough with you to where like we've developed a dynamic, I will be submissive in my personal life. Okay.
See that's what I was going to ask you if that was just your on screen definite concrete personality or if in your regularly life to switch on switch off. It's hard because it's so genuine to me on both sides, Like, and to be honest with you, I'm mostly I'm ninety percent of the time I'm dating women. So you know it that brings in something different to the scenario as well, makes sense? Yeah, sure makes sense. So
I'm considered usually a top I'm not. I'm typically the one opening doors and like chivalry is not dead, like just see and my image doesn't give that from the jump. So it's kind of like a shock for a lot of people. Yeah, I'm very I'm I'm the opposite. I'm very fluid, Like I let Jen pay for everything, right, and then she can open all the doors for me, and like it's nice, it's great. It's a princess life. I love equality. It's good. I am a little
princess. So let's let's do some of the let's do some of the basic questions that the porn guys are interested in here because I find this stuff very fascinating. But also there's people who are just kind of like into the hypno thing. I'm just sure, I just don't understand that the hypno thing is really just mine, like erotic mind play based off their own fetish sure, oh it makes total sense to me. Yeah, it's like for me, fendom bindom, Like there are very few people get off of just sending you
money for no reason. Yeah, it's like the humiliation, it's the degradation, it's you know, whatever it is that they're into, attacking a cheeto in it. Yes, I mean, you know, rainbow of colors in terms of variety to choose from, but it's what it's dynamic, which also makes it I'm able to sustain a new fresh take on it. Gotcha, gotcha, it doesn't get stale. Okay, all right, So the basic porn questions, Uh, how what's the most amount of people you've ever been
with at once? Four? Okay? The genders or is everybody fluid? Uh? There was a mail involved, one mail, three chicks? What do you do win the fucking lottery that day? How that works out? Honestly looking back? Must have Okay, all right, fair, well, I don't know. It depends on what they did to it. They crushed ches. I was fucking six hours. I don't know, man, No, listen, when there's that much going on, like I'm sorry, but
you can only extend yourself so much. I see, I would are you talking about hammer you because I would assume No, I'm just assuming the whole party of the unit. Like it's very over stimulating to have that many to break off. Yeah, and if you get out of your zone then it gets weird. You have to like stay very engaged. I get it. Just a time limit on that and take some molly keeping like really though, like you know, if you need to, you know, use vitamins too.
There's drink drink orange juice. Yeah, yea. How about uh anal into it? Not into it? Never gonna be into it, possibly could be into it. I would be shocked if I ever did any anal content to uh what about okay, all right, just keep this between us. What about like personal life stuff you into that? There? No, okay, so it's just not I mean also drink like women are not super keen
on wanting anal like, that's not something that you got to remember. We've talked to girls who uh women women that like women, women that are premiery. Yeah, you gotta talk to James. You should. You would like my wife, I think I'm sure she's pretty shell yeah, she deals with this shit. Yeah, you's a nice thing. She is definitely eighty twenty women. I just was I was twenty, got in there, yeah, oh yeah, you were close enough on that borderline. You were in that
gray area of like is that a lesbian? Yeah, yeah, transition, yeah, something you know, caught and stuck yeah yeah, high pitch by small dick. Yeah that guy yet could be a chick. I don't know. You know, it's weird because my wife is into like like dudes who look like Tyresee you know, remember from Too Fast, Too Furious. But she told me she's like, you know, if I was single again,
I would probably just date women. And I was like asking about her type, and I was shocked because her type is like of woman is like U is basically a dude. It's basically like a skinny like the stem like the
stud study is that study she fucking loves Kailani. Yes, that's giving yes, okay, yeah, and it's like I can't give stem or I can give complete like pin up feminine, Okay, I would never ever want to look more masculine, like like I may give up energy where I'm wearing like a well cut blazer with nothing under it, you know, like there's lines, it's a it's a finesse. You're not a pants suit girl, generally
not generally. No, okay, fair enough? Uh, Shane, would you like to ask your question that you always Yeah, we should start taking bets on it. By the way. Uh my answer is she's gonna say no, I'm going to say it depends on the situation. Fair enough. Okay, do you like piss well, am I pissing on or so? It depends on the situation, doesn't it. Yeah, we're gonna start keeping count one for Shane. Well, I'm Milania, you do for sure any day? Oh? Nice? All right? Cool? Yeah, I prefer
to be Milani. Yet I actually find that when I'm having to Milani as someone when I have to make the pee tape and I have to perform, I get stage. Yeah, I really can't pee in front of the people, but I do expect people to pee in front of and on me. Yeah. No, Like, there's definitely something out there on the internet from ten years ago of me doing a PC for sure, if you can find it, you found you found the Easter Egg, because I can't even find
it. Okay, fair enough, we'll find it. Yeah, but uh yeah, as far as wet work goes, like what am I Am I losing here? He's like, is it wet work? Is it water works? Because wet work I thought was murder Well I think there was. Okay, I think I'm connecting to horrible bosses if you yeah, yeah, yeah, I have or like they go in and and he's just there to like literally piss on them. Yeah, he was like, this is not what I thought wet working about. That's probably sticking in my brain. I seen
it. I will urinate on you for a certain amount of money. Yet there you go. Hell yeah. Uh. Now to wrap this up, tell us what is the website idea? I mean, you don't have to give out any specific details, but do you have a plan that is gonna be something so unique or so special or so well designed that it's gonna draw
people in? And then how do you plan on advertising it? So really, I mean my advertisement system at first is going to be integrating people that I know and have known in the business for multiple years that I want to
be cornerstone faces to draw. Okay, So then I want to bring those people in and say like, hey, what like you know, I know what my desire, like desires for what I would want on a website are, I want to gather a dynamic group of those people and get a very you know, get a very succinct, fluid, social and transactional gotcha have you are these people that work within your realm? Where are you going to
have to like train them? Okay, so the people that I initially would involve have been doing this like a long time, Like I mentioned Violet Doll, Like Violet Doll went from like very much being in a niche to like now being able to, like what I see from my end her being able to do creative Okay, okay, like yeah, play like things that like she genuinely enjoys. Makes sense? Yeah, yeah, and that would be my goal. I'm gonna give you a little advice that you didn't ask for
and don't need, but we've spoken to enough people. You really have to make sure when you're making content on paper you have the exact right mindset and what I think too, Like this is working. Let's keep pumping this out, Let's keep this brain going blah blah. But same thing as marketing. You will hit a point possibly where you go, fuck, this is boring. This is yeah, yeah, I mean I've hit that point in hypnosis,
like there's a specific crowd that is very much just in it. Mm hmm for the literal like mind control, Like they don't want you to be like ten nine eight seven six, you know, like follow us, like they're into the very are you basic? Like not interesting for me anymore? Even at that point, I could do that with standing on my head. By the way I was gonna if I was funnier, if she had gone down the one, I would have smashed my head on my keyboard here and
really fucking let her know hereditary she means business. I get that, but it makes subtle sense. What I was what I was going to say is never limit yourself or limit your content just because you know it sells. I will say, Now that's exactly where I am. And it's like I'm like feeling different about how dynamic I can make it and how much you know, how far I can push the line, sure and retain my what I feel it's like my professional acumen, level of comfort. Sure now that you know
that changes over time, It really does. So, Like they're like, would you have caught me in twenty twenty with my top off on a podcast, maybe not especially note got to start what I But I'm also good at because I have the marketing background. I see when something looks like something I would want to watch fair enough, uh not listen to the video on this one is going to be excellent. The audio on our side is going to be real. Yeah, yea, my audio bad. No, you're no
one's audio is bad. I was commenting on our quality of conversation that Shane, And yeah, yeah, but you know what, I think we know our audience at this point to our audience from what I've seen in a lot of the porn stuff, the interviews we do and all that is like I'm kind of getting the taste of it, Shane, of like the SIMP army coming out. Yeah, they like the guy. They they seem like guys who really like the stars. They come and listen to hear what the stars
got to say. Yeah, but but I'm also getting a little bit of that too. I'm getting messages. I really love that interview with bo Wo. Who's good. People retweeting us who I've never fucking met. These people like they have a dyna. You guys have a social dynamic where you're able to come on a peer level. Sure, yeah, and the artist is preped to provide like more comfortable candid answers. Sure, you know, Like it's not like I'm in the hot seat with Diane Sawyer, Like yeah,
yeah. Well to be fair, though, no matter how much I can prep someone, the girl still has to pull off the interview which you did today spoiled Ivory. I would ask, would you like to discuss anything else you want to tell anybody? I'm going to do your plugs, but is there anything else you want to say you're working on or anyone you want to give a shout out to whatever. I would like to give a shout out
to Rockdums, which is my business as partner who's Madam Tust. She runs a local BDSM social dungeon groupka base where we are and if you search r O C D O M M ees you will find that. Okay. And I'm also like there are a lot of long term people like I Quin Lacy, who is now going by Quinn peaks, Like we did a lot of GGE content which opened me up to a different market. There are certain people
that just changed my mind on certain things. Violet Doll is just like like inspirationally, Violet Doll is somebody I would like to shout out as like an inspiration. And I think that's it, you know. I I think, like, really half of the job is really just being yourself. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what's taken us here too. I'm not trying to be anything other than the disgusting pig. I am, ladies and gentlemen.
Today we had with us Spoiled Ivory. You can find her on Twitter at spoiled Ivory, on Instagram, I am the letters, I am Spoiled Ivory. On loyal Fans Spoiled Ivory and take out another mortgage. Head over to my free cams and check out her page at Spoiled Ivory Underscore. Listen, pull out that. It'll be worth there you go. Our listeners still half amex you know, No, I know our listeners most of them, most of them are we We've had some input. Ivory. Thank you very
much for coming on with us tonight. Thank you for having me once again. Both of you guys, Shane and Matt should get that. Yeah, you got it. You're good, got us. Thank you for your worst friend. I'm Matt. I'm Shane, thanks for listening. We will see you next week. Thanks