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#94 S4 EP 14: The Art of Focus in Spiritual Struggle: Our Conversation that Takes Us On a Journey

Apr 18, 202434 minSeason 4Ep. 94
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Embark on an enlightening journey with us as we revisit the realm of spiritual warfare, a topic that, while familiar, is laden with fresh insights in every discussion. Together, we delve into the unseen battles that tug at our spirit daily, inviting you to stand firm in your commitment to God's path. As we share a prayer and seek divine clarity, our conversation illuminates the mental tug-of-war between flesh and spirit, and underscores the importance of choosing sides with the gravitas of an epic film's final showdown. Special guests join us, enriching the dialog with their profound experiences and unique perspectives, guiding believers on navigating the treacherous waters of spiritual conflict. 

This episode isn't just about recognizing the skirmishes we face; it's about mastering the art of maintaining focus in the chaos of life's distractions and nurturing relationships that reflect God's love. We explore the parallels between spiritual dedication and the work it takes to keep personal connections thriving. Highlighting the transformative power of prayer, we delve into scriptural strategies for arming ourselves against the enemy, as told in Ephesians 6:10-20. Each trial we encounter is not a setback but a necessity for growth, promising joy in God's perfect timing. Join us in affirming faith's resilience, as we journey through hardship to emerge stronger in our spiritual walk.

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Spiritual Warfare

Speaker 1

hello , hello , welcome back . Learning to not learning to live in truth . What is it ? Guys , diamonds in the rough hey , man y'all , I do apologize . I'm doing the most , I'm doing a lot how are you honey ? I'm good I'm good , we're ready .

We're gonna be talking about something real , yeah , yeah , we've talked about it before in past episodes , early when we first started , uh , the podcast . But , um , today we're gonna be talking about spiritual warfare . Your thoughts about it before we get deep into it .

Speaker 2

Anyway , it's a valuable information that we need to know . It lets us know that , look , it is true , we're all fighting , but the question is who are you fighting ?

Speaker 1

I hope y'all ready .

Speaker 2

Let us pray . Dear Heavenly Father , our Lord and our Savior Jesus Christ , we come to you once again and say thank you , thank for your grace and your mercy , thank for your love and kindness and tender mercy . We ask that your holy spirit just have its way .

We ask that the enemy be sent back into the pit of hell where it came from , for it has no power over us , but we have power over him . We ask these things all in Jesus name . We say thank you , we say amen , amen , alright .

Speaker 1

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You'll find all of our episodes , all four seasons , so make sure you check it out . God's diamonds dot . God's diamond dot net . You'll find all of our episodes , all four seasons , so make sure you check it out .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and if you don't know who we are , she's Catherine .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , got that .

Speaker 2

She's Catherine .

Speaker 1

Y'all should know who we are , and he's Michael .

Speaker 2

Yeah , see , that's what I was trying to get .

Speaker 1

Oh , okay , all right .

Speaker 2

Reverse roll .

Speaker 1

I like it . Yeah , all right , y'all . All right , now let's get down to business . So we're talking about spiritual warfare , as we said , and we've talked about it before In the show notes . I'm going to try to put the previous episodes where we talked about it a little bit , but the Lord is bringing us back around to it again .

Yeah , and we got two guests that's going to be coming after we finish our part about it . But really talk about , I would would say , the I don't know . I just don't know how the spirit is going to lead us down this path , but we're just going to go with it . Um so , michael , will you , how would you define spiritual ?

Speaker 2

well , I I looked it up biblically and it says that spiritual warfare is a christian concept that involves fighting against the work of evil forces that are not natural . It is based on the belief that demons or evil spirits can intervene in human affairs in various ways .

Ephesians 6.10-20 describes spiritual warfare as being against the unseen worlds , the rulers , the mighty powers , the evil spirits and the authorities . That indicates that warfare is not physical but spiritual , and that's why I brought the question of who are you fighting ? Are you fighting against the enemy or are you fighting against God ?

Speaker 1

That's a good question . That's a good question for us all . And you know , especially as a believer , you got to know that . You know there is a warfare , and the warfare I find in my own personal experiences is that the biggest warfare we have is a mental warfare , because we have a mind to feed our flesh .

You know , when we serve in Jesus , we have a heart to feed the spirit , and so you got to decide this Galatians teaches us who's going to lead . Is it going to be the spirit or the flesh ? Because at the end of the day , you're going to have to deal with both the spirit and the flesh .

And you know , I believe that that's where the warfare I'm talking about , the tangible , where we can actually see it happening is where it happens . It's in our spirit , in our flesh , and it becomes a mental thing .

Speaker 2

You know , when it comes to , you know the mental and I believe when it comes to the mental battles and warfare , you know God cannot move in your life until you move out of the way . Because many times we and I'm guilty of it I've done this I got in the way of God's move and trying to do things and fix things on my own .

But God can't complete his task until we get out of his way , if that makes sense .

Speaker 1

I mean , it makes perfect sense to me . I think that in order to win the battle , in order for the spirit to succeed in the way that he desires , you got to get aligned with his word . Yeah , yeah , because I believe that when we get out of alignment of the word , this is when the flesh , or evil , is able to shake us .

Because at the end of the day , when you're talking about warfare , you gotta . When you're talking about it's like you know , when you're watching a movie , somebody you have to choose which side you're going to be on . And whichever side you're going to be on is the side that you stay on . You don't switch up in the middle of the battle .

You know that's which side you decide you're going to be on .

And I think that if you haven't decided whether or not you're going to be on the side of the spirit or the side of the flesh , then this is where you know you're kind of going back and forth and you know it's a flip side to that corn , because even when you've decided , it doesn't mean that the attack isn't going to come .

Can you break down what I'm saying ? You understand what I'm saying ? A ?

Speaker 2

little bit .

Speaker 1

A little bit what don't you understand , because the same way you don't understand , somebody else might not understand . So you tell me what you don't understand about what I said .

Speaker 2

I was actually to be honest with you . I was thinking about something else .

Speaker 1

Up , up , up , up up . Look . He wasn't listening , he was thinking about what he was going to say in response . Look , look , look , look . We just actually just recorded an episode Y'all will hear it soon about the fact that a whole lot of times we are busy thinking and not listening .

Yeah , and you know he ain't the only one that does it , because we all do it . You know what I mean . We are thinking about what we're going to say and we're not even listening what's being said , and so then we don't know how to respond . We don't respond correctly because we weren't listening , we were thinking , and so don't get caught up like that .

Yeah , don't get caught up , because again , it happens to all of us and it really is an intentional thing To be in a conversation with somebody . You must be intentional about listening , as intentional as you are about thinking .

You've got to be just as an intentional , just as intentional about listening , so you respond correctly and that your thoughts are aligned with what has been said . Amen , somebody take that . That was for somebody . Amen , that might have been for him and it's , it's easy .

Speaker 2

It's easy and this . This is how easy it is to get off track of doing the thinking of what you're going to say versus listening . She's in my ears and most of the time you know somebody's talking to us . They're not using a microphone . You're not in the ears of the headphones coming through the sound of what somebody's saying .

It's just that easy to miss it .

Speaker 1

And that is an example of warfare because you want to listen but you have become distracted by something else , and so that's how you lose your focus . You can lose your focus even in a conversation . You can lose focus with somebody because you're busy thinking instead of listening . And that's kind of like how life can happen .

We can be so busy trying to , you know , navigate and do what we're supposed to do that we stop focusing on the one who's guiding your steps . You know , you can stop focusing on Jesus and begin to focus on everything else and then call it I'm working for the Lord , but I ain't even got my eye on the one that's going to guide me .

You know that's an example of spiritual warfare , and when you find yourself in spiritual warfare , you got to know how to respond to the warfare .

Speaker 2

got a thought yeah , and you know that . That reminds me of a scripture that says I look towards the hills , which comes your help come from . And if you're gazing off and you're like there's an old children's book , ferdinand the Bull , he's gazing at the butterfly instead of seeing around his surroundings .

And if you lose sight and lose focus , you'll wind up getting hurt more than being saved . It's like somebody's walking and not focusing on what they're doing and they walk out crossing the street . If they're not focused on the traffic that's coming up and down , they'll wind up getting hit by that car . I've never read that book .

Speaker 1

It makes perfect sense . It absolutely makes perfect sense because it's so easy to do , to lose focus on what we're supposed to be doing . So you know and that doesn't just happen to safe folk , but it happens to everybody you know where we lose focus and you know this is one of the biggest key . This is the key to winning .

One of the keys to winning the war I'm talking about spiritual things is focusing on the spirit .

Importance of Maintaining Focus and Relationships

It's very easy to be distracted by your flesh . It is , and again , this is for those who are trusting in God Amen .

I mean , it's not to say that this same conversation can't reach those who don't , but the reality is that God , he draws his people to him , is that God draws his people to him , and you know he uses his people to draw those who don't know him . You know we are all part of the light and if our light is dim , how can they see us ?

They can see us very slightly and they can come to us , but the lighter or the dimmer , the dimmer your light , the harder it is to see you and I'll be the first to admit the reason .

Speaker 2

I lost focus , okay , and my focus was losing .

And when you lose focus , not only do you miss the conversation of what's being said , you can also miss the reason behind the distraction , because I was sitting here sipping on my cup of coffee and I like hot coffee , not room temperature coffee and that could have been God's way of saying that you're missing the reason why I'm getting you to drink the warm

coffee , because sometimes we get so focused and so stuck in our ways that we miss the things that God wants us to attend to and to receive , because we're worried about oh , it's too cold for me or it's not the way I like it .

Sometimes we have to go through things that we don't like to get where God wants us we're so focused on because it don't feel right . I'm not going to pay attention , if that makes sense .

Speaker 1

It makes perfect sense , absolutely , because it's easy to happen . It is easy .

Because it's easy to happen , it's easy and you know , I think that because our podcast is very much unscripted and it requires because it is unscripted , it requires us to listen to whoever's talking , whether it's me , me and him alone , or us and a guest , or me and and him alone , or us and a guest , or me and a guest , or him and a guest , or whatever .

It requires us to listen .

Because we're not listening , then , um , then we're not really going to do or we won't be purposeful , because we also have guests on here sometimes that are not listening and they begin to just run with whatever they're saying and then it just becomes it's like I don't know , sometimes it can become more preaching than like a , like a conversation , it's like it's

just them . Nobody else is in the room , you know , um , I think that , like , probably the host can be real guilty of that . I can be guilty of that sometimes , because , you know , the spirit gets going and it's like the spirit in me gets going and I have to force myself to stop . Some people don't know how to do that .

It's going on and on and on and it doesn't , it's not , it can become not what it's supposed to be . It's just like he said about the coffee same thing you can be set in your way and doing things your way that you miss what God want to do .

Speaker 2

And just to just to piggyback off of that , if I can .

You know it relates back to something you said in one of your sermons , your preaches and teachings , and you can relate it to even people that don't believe in God , because , think about it , it revolves around relationship and if you're so not focused on what your spouse needs or your kids needs and your kids could be hurting if you don't pay that focus , that

attention of what they're going through , they'll wind up thinking that you don't love them . Same thing with your spouse .

If you don't pay attention to what your spouse is talking about I'm guilty , sometimes I don't hear what my wife is saying but at the same time , if you don't have that focus , that one-on-one relationship time with your spouse or your kids , even with God , you wind up missing the very key thing that you need to go to the next level , the next chapter in your

life , because it's a process .

Power of Prayer in Spiritual Warfare

Listening is a part of the next chapter in your life , because it's a process . Listening is a part of the process .

If you're not willing to follow the process , same on you If you're going to speak it like it is same on you , because we got to understand that the Word of God tells us , and just use an example in one of our very first episodes , ecclesiastes 3 . Everything has a purpose . That means part of the purpose is a process . Part of the process is the listening .

Part of the listening is the part of responding . Part of responding is to know what the process will begin with .

Speaker 1

I like it . I definitely agree with what you said , because you know for a long time there . I'm like what in the world Is he listening to me ? Amen , I think it's so , so important .

Listening is more of a fundamental thing than you realize , and you know not just your spouse , not just you know people that you see in your day , everyday life , but in the spirit . He needs you to stop talking and listen to him .

He needs you to stop talking and listen to him Because if you don't stop talking and listen to him , you will never , ever be able to discern his voice from the voice of the devil . Because , look , the reality is that our flesh will speak to us , as the spirit does .

You got to figure out which one is , which one is speaking , when it's speaking , and it requires , as he said , as michael said , amen , process , process . You serve a god of process .

Speaker 2

As much as you want it to happen overnight , it does not , amen , and every day that you live , you're going to be experiencing some level of warfare because the enemy is always on his job . And I got to mention this scripture because it's key to what you just said .

And I was listening this time and it lined it up right with what I was thinking , but I was listening . You said you know , sometimes we want things to happen the very next night or the very next morning . You know his word says that . And get this . He says weeping may endure for a night , but joy come in the morning .

If you look at that scripture , it did not say what night that it might happen . It didn't say what morning it was going to happen . So we have to realize that the weeping might be today , your mourning might be a week later , but the process is taking place . The process is going to happen if if , if , if , if you let it .

That's why we hear that saying pray more , worry less yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you had a moment .

Speaker 2

Huh , I hear y'all know me . I get these moments where God is speaking to me , and sometimes I share it , but maybe it's for somebody , maybe it's for you . I know it was for me . I love when I get those moments .

Speaker 1

I love to see those moments happen to every last one of us , because it just lets us know that we are growing From diamond . You're growing in him . You know Part of the warfare is so that you'll grow . You know , you got to know that nothing is happening without purpose when I think about Job .

Jesus , the spirit invited , invited the devil , to go and visit Job . He said have you tried my servant Job ? Amen . And he probably said that about you . Have you tried my servant Catherine ? Have you tried my servant Michael ? He knows who you are Amen . He knows the struggles that you have . But you know , a good father teaches that are . Amen .

He knows the struggles that you have , but you know , a good father teaches their child Amen . He helps them to grow up to be the mature believers and mature men and women . This is what he does , amen . And so you got to know that . You know the attack ain't going to stop because it's uncomfortable for you .

The attack ain't going to come because you don't want it to happen . You know the attack ain't going to stop because it's hard , because it's difficult , because you're losing this , because you're losing that Amen . But the fact of the matter is he's growing you up , amen . He don't want you on milk for the rest of your life .

He wants you to grow up and be able to handle things like I would handle a whole meal . You know the meat , the potatoes and the vegetables and the dessert . Come on . Hallelujah , amen . Spiritual warfare doesn't mean that you've done everything wrong , but nine times out of ten because you're doing it right .

Speaker 2

I got to . I got to , I got to mention this , read the scripture that I mentioned . You know , in the definition that I read about spiritual warfare , which was Ephesians 10 , I mean Ephesians 6 , verses 10 through 20 . Ephesians 10 , I mean Ephesians 6 , verses 10 through 20 . And it's very key what you just said about you know doing everything . You know .

He says , finally my brethren , be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might , put on the whole armor of God that ye might be able to stand against the wiles of the devil .

Speaker 1

Wait , pause , just for a second Notice . He said be strong in the Lord . That gives us an indication that there are going to be moments where you're going to feel like you're defeated , you're weak , you're not good enough , you're not strong enough . He said be strong . He says and in the power of his might , not in your own strength .

You've got to rely and depend on the Lord as you go forth in the warfare . Whatever's going on in life , it's got to be in him . And he said it's something you've got to put on . You've got to be intentional about doing it the way God has taught you to do . You got to abide in his word .

He says that you might be able to stand against the wiles of death . He says things are going to come at you . He said protect yourself with him . He said protect yourself with him .

Speaker 2

And it says in verse 12, . It says For we wrestle , not against flesh and blood , but against principalities , against powers , against the rulers of the darkness of this world , against spiritual weakness in high places . I'm going to stop right there . Right there , he said for we wrestle , not against flesh and blood . You should not be fighting against yourself .

You should not be fighting against g god . You should not be fighting against your spouses or your children or against your brothers and sisters in christ . You shouldn't put the fight against the enemy . And he says verse 13 , 13, . He said Wherefore , take unto the whole armor of God that you may be able to withstand in the evil day .

And having done all to stand , he said take on the whole armor of God . You don't just go out there on the playing field in football with no helmet on , no shoulder pads on , but just a cleats . You take the whole uniform and put it on , so while you have bacon . Against God , against the enemy , he said put on a whole armor of God .

And having done all to stand , that means you gave your very best . You're doing everything you can in your own might to stand . He says he Can I say something yeah .

Speaker 1

Will you go there ? I was going to say you know , I was looking at , you know the rulers of darkness . This world is the spiritual wickedness in high places . You know , this is really speaking now about our prayer life . What are you praying for and praying against ? It says the rulers of darkness in this world .

Well , you got to figure out well , what is darkness . When he says darkness , well , what does he mean ? How does he define darkness and evil ? It's anything against him . You know Anything that is against him , things like hatred him , things like hatred , things like things that's sourced in it . Like I'll just say , for example , hatred can be a route to slavery .

Hatred can be a route to police brutality . Hatred can be a route to police brutality . Hatred can be a route to a racial slur . Hatred can be a route to physical abuse . Hatred can be the route to human trafficking . Hatred can be the route to something that is happening . So when you speak to the head of the thing , the bottom will fall apart .

Okay , because as long as the root is there , the thing can still exist . Jesus , as long as the root is alive , then you can get rid of the separation , you can get rid of the human trafficking .

You can get rid of all of those things , but if you don't kill the root , get rid of the root then the other things will come back and it'll come back even harder . So it'll stay and have more of an effect than it had before . It's like getting rid of smoking without getting rid of the desire .

Okay , if the desire isn't gone , you can get rid of the smoking for a time . But if you don't replace something to kill the root of it , then eventually it will come back and it's going to come back to three times stronger . So it'll stay a little bit longer and have a worse of an effect than it had before it left the first time .

Do you understand what I'm saying ? If you don't get rid of the root or he says , he says the rulers if you don't get rid of the head , then the rest of it's going to come back . Even if it disappears , it's going to come back because it still has some kind of authority .

Speaker 2

Now , I was about to say that not every root is the bottom . I was about to say that not every root is the bottom . Sometimes the root is the top because you think about it . If you see a garden snake in your garden and you cut it in half or you cut the tail off , it's still going to move , but once you cut the head off of it , it's going to die .

And that's what we need to take . We need to cut the head off of these , these things that's troubling us in life so we can live more abundantly . So we're going to stop right there , can we ?

Speaker 1

stop right here . Is this a good place to stop ? Okay , so we got a part one right there . Can we stop right here ?

Speaker 2

Is this a ?

Speaker 1

good place to stop . Yeah , okay , so we got a part one and a part two of spiritual warfare . So y'all make sure y'all come on back next week as we continue , michael , and our talk , um , our private talk about , about , about , uh , spiritual warfare , and y'all make sure y'all come on in for part two .

and then , like I said before , we're going to have two more for what we've interviewed , and they're going to talk to us about things that they've had to deal with , things they've encountered in spiritual warfare .

We are excited and we hope that this brings some type of awareness that this is very real , that what you've experienced , what you've seen , what you are comprehending right now , yes , it is spiritual warfare and God is going to speak to it , amen . So that's my final word .

Speaker 2

You know , my final word is I encourage you to come back and listen , you know , and not just listen , but follow along , you know , when we like , especially when we go into the word of God . Because you know and I know you all heard it before you know , unless you check it out for yourself , we very could well be lying to you .

That's why it's so key to get into his word for yourself . Don't rely on man to teach you , but let the spirit teach you , and that spirit is the word of God .

Speaker 1

Amen . All right , y'all let's pray . Father , we thank you so much for your grace and your mercy . Thank you , God , for just allowing us this time , this opportunity to just speak our heart and allow you to speak what it is . You have us all to understand .

We pray God , that you'll just continue just to touch everyone who comes and be and is a part of this podcast , who listens God faithfully . We pray God , the blessings of the Lord will be upon them . We shout out Julie . We shout out those who listen every single week .

We thank you so much for sending them , God , and I just pray that you'll continue to allow us to be a light for you and a light for them . I hope that we just thank you so much and we bless your name , we bless your people . We pray that this prayer is pleasing in your sight . Jesus Christ's name , we do pray , Amen , Amen . And a man .

Speaker 2

Hey , y'all , y'all know what time it is . We'll do a little bit different now . Hey , y'all , y'all know what time it is . We'll do a little bit different now . Remember , until next time . You are A diamond in the rough .

Speaker 1

Amen , blessings and love From us to you . Y'all have a great day Till the next .

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