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#90 S4 EP 10: Navigating the Depths of Success with a Heart Anchored in Faith

Apr 04, 202429 minSeason 4Ep. 90
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Embark on an enlightening journey with us, Catherine and Michael, as we unravel the true essence of success intertwined with faith in our latest heart-to-heart. Together, we'll uncover the gleaming diamond of worth that lies within each of us, and how to let that intrinsic value shine as a beacon in a world where the light of faith often dims. We're diving deep into how success isn't measured by wealth or applause, but by the richness of our faith and the resonance of our impact, even when faced with life's inevitable setbacks.

In this heartfelt exchange, we draw inspiration from scripture, particularly Philippians 4:13, to illuminate the path to genuine success that aligns with God's vision for our lives. Our conversation doesn't just stop at self-reflection; we're eager to share the insights gleaned from three remarkable men who'll join us in future episodes, sharing their own experiences with faith and success. As we wrap up our dialogue, we leave you with a profound realization that true success is not about the size of our audience, but the depth of our influence on each individual life we touch.

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Finding Success With God's Grace

Speaker 1

Hello and hello . Welcome back God's diamonds in the rough amen . If you don't know who we are , I am Catherine .

Speaker 2

And I am .

Speaker 1

Michael , amen Such a grand entrance .

Speaker 2

I know .

Speaker 1

I love it , though . I love it . So y'all , we are here and ready to do it again . We are helping you to find the diamond in you , amen . God has put a diamond in all of us and you know it can be hard , it can be rough , it can be very difficult at times , but you know there is a diamond , I promise you . We all have value , we all are beautiful .

We all have some have value . We all are beautiful , we all are uniquely crafted , we all have flaws and we're just . You know , we're here to help you to see that , amen , because we're living in a world where , you know , a lot of people are losing hope .

We're talking about children of God , amen , the ones supposed to carry hope and be a light Into darkness . Yeah , yeah . Just yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

That's so funny . Alright , y'all , come on . Let's go on and pray before we get into it .

Speaker 2

Dear Heavenly Father , our Lord and our Savior , jesus Christ , we just thank you One more time to say that you give us Grace and mercy , love and kindness and tenderness . We beg your forgiveness , christ . We just thank you one more time to say that you give us grace and mercy , love and kindness and tender mercy .

We beg your forgiveness for anything we might have said , done or thought that's not pleasing to your sight . That you're gracious and forgive us and cast us back into the pits of hell where it came from .

We ask you right now just to have your way and that the enemy will be sent back into the pits of hell where it came from , with all the tricks and tactics that he might try to pull we where it came from , with all the tricks and tactics that he might try to pull . We ask you right now just to have your way . Jesus Christ is holy . In Max's name .

We say thank you , we say amen , amen and amen , amen .

Speaker 1

Hallelujah . So today , everyone , we are going to prep you for what is coming . Amen In regard to impacting the world . Amen . We're talking about success and what that looks like in the sight of God . Michael , what's your thoughts about success ?

Speaker 2

Well , my thoughts about success is this you know , even with something you said in the opening is the way I introduced myself , and you know we got to realize that we gotta give our very best or don't give it at all . Because I say give your very best or don't give it at all because I want your very best .

He don't want you to give halfway , you know , just like he don't want you to give halfway , you know , just like he don't want you to have one foot in the world and one foot in his word . You know , because when you do that , you're slipping , you're going on a slippery slope and nine times out of ten that slippery slope is going to be razor blades .

And I say razor to be razor blades . And I say razor blades because razor blades cut real , not fine , and the slightest little thing that gets in it is going to hurt . So that's why he wants us to give it our very best . Don't half-step with God , but he won't half-step with you .

Speaker 1

That's right . I was looking at the dictionary exactly what success means . It means the accomplishment of an aim or a purpose . The key word to that is accomplishment , and the thing about it is that we have to be careful as believers as me I'm talking about as children of God how we define ourselves .

You know , keeping in perspective purpose , keeping in perspective . You know where we're headed to . Because I say all of that ? Because God's idea of success does not look anything like this world . Would you agree , honey ?

Speaker 2

I agree .

Speaker 1

You know , absolutely doing our best , giving our best , putting our best foot forward in the sight of God is success . Even though we might fall flat on our face , we might lose everything we got In the sight of God , that doesn't mean that we aren't successful .

You know what I mean , In the sight of God , for us to be financially broke as long as we're rich in him , we have everything that we need .

Speaker 2

You know , when you say , put your best foot forward in everything you do and just use an analogy of a person who's running a race because we got to understand that we are in a race In the spiritual realm , we are in a race to making sure that we get to glory and when he say , put your best foot forward , you take a race , a jogger or a person that's

on a track event , and even if the person has two left feet and they fall flat on their face , god honors it because he looks at your heart . Your heart has to be . The posture of your heart has to be right . That's what he honors .

But if you just give sloppy agape or something that's just I'm just doing it because I'm supposed to do it how is that going to be pleasing to God ? It's not .

Speaker 1

Amen , hallelujah

Focus on True Success Through God

. There's a scripture that kind of stands out to me right now about Philippians 4 , 13 . I can do all things through Christ . Which strength is me ?

I mean , that's really a mind and a heart posture you got to have when you're doing anything is that you know anything that God sets before me to do , I can do it through him and I'm going to be successful Again , whether or not I fall flat on my face or not .

Going to be successful again , whether or not I fall flat on my face or not , if I'm going and I'm going forth to do it in the strength that God has given me , you will succeed . And it might not happen as fast as you want it to happen , and it might not happen the way you want it to happen , but it'll happen .

And in the midst of it , a whole lot of times , you got to be asking God for this strength , what you think I mean . Am I wrong in saying that , honey ?

Speaker 2

No , I mean because you think about it .

And one thing that corresponds with the Philippians 4.13 is a scripture that I like also in Philippians 4 , is a scripture that I like also in Philippians 4 , which I think is Philippians 4 and 8 , which says Finally brother , whatsoever things are pure , whatsoever things are just and this is paraphrasing whatsoever things are pure , whatsoever things are just , whatsoever

things are lovely , whatsoever things are of good report if they're being appraised , if they're being in virtue . Think on these things . He's letting us know look , our heart has to line up with the way he sees us and he sees us giving our very best .

Speaker 1

Did you say the verse that you was referring to just now ?

Speaker 2

Philippians 4 and 8 .

Speaker 1

Yeah , that's the one . Philippians 4 and 8 . Yeah , that's the one , definitely . That scripture by itself just speaks a lot about our outlook . You know what I mean Our outlook on life and what is happening in our lives . Because the thing that you focus on the most is what becomes greater , bigger . You give it more power when you focus on it .

You know if you I mean it's anything . If you take a new look at something long enough , you can't see it from a distance , but if you squint your eyes a little bit , it'll become bigger to you , to where you can see it . And when I think about that particular verse , you're talking about honey . That's what I think God is saying to us .

You focus on what is right , focus on what is just , focus on what brings a good report , focus on , you know , the things that are pure . You know , and if there's any virtue or any truth to it , praise it . You know what I mean . Success is something that you have to put some confinement around .

You know what I mean Because if not , you'll begin to measure your success through the eyes of the world . So you got to make sure that your idea of success is rooted in the word of God .

Speaker 2

And one more word that stood out to me in the definition of success that you read was and it lines up with that is aim . You have to be focused on that thing , Put that thing in your crosshairs and get a clear picture of it , Because if not , you go shooting all around it .

When you have a target , if you're not focused , if it's not directly in the center of your crosshair , the thing that you're going after , you wind up missing the mark .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so you got to know that preparation is key yeah yeah for , and that's , that's a part of that the um aim for preparing for it . You know , like you said , you don't just just be shooting at everything that comes across your path . You gotta be specific . You , you got to have things . You got to have what you're shooting at in focus .

Focus , focus , focus . It's so important in success . I can't say it enough Do not allow yourself to define your success by what the world says , because if you allow the world to define it , you'll never succeed , because it's always . You think about a phone . Since cell phones , mobile phones , started . Every year is something a little bit better .

Every year is something a little bit better . Now , imagine if you tried to attempt to get a phone a year a little bit better . Now , imagine if you tried to attempt to get a phone a year and them phones , the nicer phones that you know where you get , all of this extra stuff you're going to spend at least $1,200 for you .

Imagine doing that every year on a cell phone . Mm-hmm , yeah , every phone , I mean every year . And then they call themselves giving you a free phone to entice you to come and get . But you don't really get that phone free because you got to pay for that phone over two years , yeah , and if you break the contract and you're in a contract , it's even worse .

But the world defines okay , you're successful if you're walking around with a $1,200 phone and meanwhile my credit is shot . I can't buy nothing with cash because everything is on credit . Come on somebody , you heard me . But you're successful if I got this 2024 Volvo XC90 . I got a 2024 . They look at the fact that I have a Volvo and I'm successful .

Come on , you don't know that . I got a $700 car payment that goes along with it . Come on somebody , you heard me . Amen , do not try to keep up with the Joneses .

Speaker 2

It's almost like you know , leave you bankrupt . It's almost like you know the world has you set up for this made-up , fictional success that unless you have a Lamborghini in your driveway , that you're nothing . But you got to understand .

Okay , you might have the Lamborghini in the driveway and then you might look successful in the world's eyes , but how are you successful in your own heart ? Because you can have all the things in the world , but if you're not happy , it's almost like you don't have it .

Speaker 1

Or it becomes a curse . Yeah , it can become a curse to you all of those things , you can become consumed by it . You have people that seems like , from the world view , they have everything , they have success or they have .

Let me change that , because the world defines success as if you're successful if you have a name for yourself Okay with God , that's success to have a good name . But if you got the most recent cell phone , you're successful . If you have , you know you're the CEO or whatever have you of your company or whatever , that's successful .

If you have the latest vehicle , that's success . If you have the latest , you know , the huge house with all the rooms and nobody but you in it , that's success . If you , you know you can make a call and get this done and get that done , you're successful . I mean you got all of these things that you do .

You physically are doing that the world says you're successful , but in your heart , as Michael said , you're bankrupt . You ain't got nobody there to share what you have with . You ain't got nobody there to love but yourself . If you love yourself , you got all of this money and no influence you got . You know you got all of this money and no influence you got .

You know you got all of these things and you're left broken . It can kill you , amen . Look at Whitney Houston how did she pass away ? Look at Robin Gibbons how did he pass away ? You so many people . You look at their life and you're like , oh man , they got it all . Michael Jackson you know they succumbed to drugs .

You know when they were found , when they had passed away , they found out that they had passed a drug overdose . But they got all the success . They got all you know . They got all the hype . They got all these things that got all you know . They got all the hype . They got all these things that people are chasing after .

Why , why did these people pass away from drug overdose ? Come on , you know , I mean , it really is something to think about . What are you serving ? Because the reality is what you serve will serve you .

Yeah , and if you serve things like alcohol and drugs and you know you allow those things to , and you know money and wealth and you allow this stuff to consume you , they become your god people , even they become your god . What happens when you get in trouble ? Can that god bring you out of it or will it bring you deeper into it . Come on somebody .

That's a word , ain't it ?

Speaker 2

yeah , okay , we gotta think look , we can . We can have all this in life and look successful to people in people's eyes , but if you're suffering inside , who and I'll use this lightly who's going to save you ? Who's going to save you if you're using people or money or cars or houses as your God ?

How can God , god , save you if you're putting somebody else before him or something else before him .

Speaker 1

I remember there was a story in the Bible the young man who had the storehouse . You remember that story . I don't know exactly where it's at , but he had the storehouse . You remember that story . I don't know exactly where it's at , but he had the storehouse full of goods . And he came to Jesus and asked him how can I make it into the kingdom ?

And Jesus responded give away everything that you have . And the Bible tells us that the young man was sorrowful because he didn't want to let go his stuff in order to follow god . And I believe that a lot of people will are walking away from walking away from jesus because they don't want to let go of their stuff , because the stuff says I'm successful .

Stuff says I'm somebody . The stuff says I can do this and I can do that . But what happens when the stuff is gone ? What are you going to do ? And at the end of the day , you know we defy failure . We can't stand to fail . We can't stand to not have . But I'm going to tell you what happens when you don't have . Stand to not have .

But I'm going to tell you what happens when you don't have , when you're trying to figure out how to make it from point A to point B . There's one that becomes our hope , there's one that gives us life , and that's Jesus . Amen . I'm going to tell you what . As a child of God , it ain't always easy and it makes you turn to him .

Ain't always easy and it makes you turn to him . Out away from him , it makes you turn to him .

Speaker 2

You gotta look at you know , really real success and the type that is not surrounded by you comes from him you know , and you know that that relates to you know , and just with that scripture , you to you know , and just with that scripture you was mentioned about , and just put that in perspective , how can somebody be blessed with the more ?

If you have , let's say , for instance , a five hundred dollar check in one hand and a $1,000 check in the other hand , I can God bless you with a $10,000 check if you don't want to let one go .

Speaker 1

I like the symbolism of that Amen , because you know somebody trying to be smart . They say , oh well , just put it in the other hand with the other one , you know . But I get where you're going , because the essence is is that letting go of one thing allows for the more you know , letting go of what you think , what I'm looking at right now .

I'm thinking this is all I got . You want me to let that go , this is all I got . But when you're trusting in God and he tells you to do that and you let it go , he gives you more . So I get it absolutely 100% .

Success Through Faith and Impact

There's a scripture that says and this is the English Standard Version , just because I'm looking at it on the computer right now not the King James , but it says commit your work to the Lord and your plans will be established . That's success .

When I look at that scripture , that's successful because you've put it in the one who is able to author and guide your steps to get done what you want done . Amen . Committing it unto God , amen . You got to commit it unto your , unto the one who's able to show you the way . The scripture says lead God in order .

He said I will lead God in order your steps by my word . I believe that's in . I think that's in Proverbs 37 somewhere .

Speaker 2

I don't know exactly where but 37 .

Speaker 1

And actually here's the one . In Psalms it says delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart . You know what I mean . So it all begins with him , amen . It begins with Jesus .

Speaker 2

You know , and I also like that . That's because in James 4 and 10 it says humble yourself before the Lord and he will exalt you . That's letting you know that , look , you have to turn to God . Let God exalt you . Don't try to exalt yourself , Because when you try to exalt yourself , I'm try to exalt yourself .

I'm gonna tell you you're gonna wind up finding yourself by yourself by yourself , absolutely so .

Speaker 1

Um , we are excited about what is coming . We are coming down to the last few minutes , uh , of the show . Um , we got three powerhouse men coming . Last time . We did three men , four men , right back back to back . People was very much encouraged by it .

So we're going to do it again and they're going to be talking about success and what God is doing through them . For the next three shows after this one and then following those three shows , we're going to be talking about spiritual warfare .

So we are impacting , we are being intentional about how we impact this world as men and women of God and , as I said , and we've been saying that we are just excited about how God is guiding this podcast . I can say I couldn't have imagined doing this ever , you know , but God has made this a part of who I am .

Amen , and you know we've been getting a lot of feedback in regards to how this show is impacting them and it's , you know , it's just like it humbles me , you know . Does it humble you , honey ?

Speaker 2

It really does , and not only does it humble me , it gives me just another notch in my belt of the wisdom that God has put in us , because we got to understand . Look , if we keep quiet and keep it all to ourselves , how are we impacting somebody else ?

Speaker 1

It's true . I mean , how are you ? You know , it's exciting to me because you know we don't have a large following . But the people who listen , they say they have been impacted by it and at the end of the day , that's what matters . It's not about numbers , it's not about having a lot , it's not about all of that . A whole lot of folk .

They make it about the numbers and they make it about the money . They make it about this , that and the other . Yeah , to have a huge following , that's great , but are they being impacted by it ? You know what I mean ? It's like having a megachurch . How many , out of that megachurch , you got ? 10,000 people in your congregation .

How many people are really being influenced and impacted by what is happening in the church ? I bet you it's a handful . You know what I mean . It's probably 10% of however many come . You know what I mean . You want to make a difference in somebody's life . You know , as a child of God , this is what matters and this , for me , this defines success To me .

I believe that this podcast is very , very successful . We don't have , um , a regular thousand people that listen a month . We don't . We don't . That's just being honest . But the ones who do listen and are continually listening , every single week .

Speaker 2

They're being affected by it , and that is what matters most and something you just said , just briefly , something you said about the numbers that we don't have a lot of followers , but you got to understand that even Jesus himself left the 99 and went out to the one . So it's not about numbers .

Speaker 1

And you know , just to piggyback off of that , he only had 12 that was with him , all of those people that were following after him trying to get a piece of him . He didn't have the 12 that he was really invested in in regard to doing what he was doing . Do you understand ?

And that's big , because you know everybody that's following behind you ain't necessarily for you , a whole lot of the folk that's following behind you , they're doing it because you have something they want , but they ain't willing to give themselves for you . While they want some of you , they ain't willing to give something to you . You know what I mean .

They want to receive it , but they ain't ready to give it . Do you know what I mean ? See , that's how a relationship works . Relationship is give and take . You give , they give back and forth , and you got people that just want to get something from you and then they don't want to give none of themselves . That's not a relationship .

Do you understand what I'm saying ? And the 12 , they gave and took Gave and took Gave and took Hallelujah . So that's it . I mean , look forward to the three men Paul Zolman , who was the second person , I know the last . The third one was Stephen Capps and he's looking . He's looking . Y'all , give me a minute .

Speaker 2

He's going to tell you who the other person is . Yeah , Jason .

Speaker 1

Paul Zolman , jason Perry and Stephen Capps . Yep , so those are the three . That's coming after this , one for the next , so we got four straight in a row , and then after that , we're going to be talking about spiritual warfare and the fact that it is real , so absolutely a real thing .

So , about the next two months , it's going to be on fire , on fire , as it always is , amen . So , honey , you have any final thoughts ?

Speaker 2

Y'all come back and listen because it's going to be very powerful . I had a Michael moment for this . I had like a brain fart .

Speaker 1

I can see . I've seen it too .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I had a brain fart , but I encourage each and every one of y'all come back and listen because you know , like Catherine said , it is very .

Speaker 1

Catherine .

Speaker 2

Catherine .

Speaker 1

Oh , okay , all right .

Speaker 2

My honey .

Speaker 1

Uh-huh .

Speaker 2

It's a very powerful impact and you know , yeah , it changed my way of thinking when we was listening . Recording is you know , I just got to check it out .

Speaker 1

All right y'all , so let's go ahead and pray . Father , we thank you so much for your grace and your mercy . Thank you , god , for allowing us this time and this opportunity to be able to commune with one another and commune with you . We pray for every diamond that is listening .

Bless them where they are , whomever they're praying for , whatever's going on in their life , you would just show up and show out God . We thank you so much and we bless your name . In Jesus Christ's name , we do pray , amen , amen .

Speaker 2

Amen , I'm just sitting over here laughing y'all .

Speaker 1

Why Y'all got to excuse me what you laughing at . Because I say , akron , he is so stupid y'all but I got to love him , amen y'all . But I gotta love them , amen y'all , gotta love us . It's all good , all right y'all .

Speaker 2

So there it is , go on , get it , michael until next time , remember you are a diamond in the rough amen , we'll see y'all next week .

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