¶ The Power of Joy in Faith
Hello , hello . Welcome back to God's Diamonds in the Ruff . We are so glad to be with you one more time . I am one of your hosts . Well , we are one of us . I'm Catherine .
And I'm Michael .
And we have our guest today , yvette Walker . We're so excited to have her here . You want to say hello to everybody . Hello , thanks for having me . I'm happy to be here . Yes , ma'am , we are as well , amen . So , before we go into this , we're going to have prayer , okay .
Let us pray .
Absolutely .
Dear Heavenly Father , our Lord and our Savior , Jesus Christ , we just come to you right now and say thank you , Thank you for just being who you are in our lives . We pray in the name of Jesus as we get into God's Diamonds in the Ruff podcast that you will just have your way .
We counsel any assignment of the enemy that will be sent back into the picture where it came from , for it has no power , no authority over us . We pray in the name of Jesus , hoping and praying that your listeners will get the concept of what they need to know that they are a diamond in the rough .
We pray in the name of Jesus for the ones who have no desire to know who you are , that your touch would just be enough to change and transform their mindset . We pray in the name of Jesus for just being who you are and knowing who we are in you . We pray in the name of Jesus and thank you and we say amen , amen and amen .
Amen , amen , amen , amen . To God be the glory . So we're talking about joy today . Talking about this is absolutely one of the fruits of the spirit . Absolutely as diamonds in the sight of God , we ought to be shining in . One of the ways we shine is with the joy that we express inwardly and outwardly Amen . So Miss Walker has a podcast . She's a podcast .
She's also an author . She got a lot going on in her life . So you want to add to that and just tell us why joy seems to be really your gift I mean expressed to us a little further .
Yes , absolutely Well , before God made this submission for me , people always told me just , I mean , from college , from you know , as a young woman to now , that I never seem to get rattled or upset , that I seem to quote , unquote have it together , which , trust me , I don't believe that's true . That's what people said .
But in 2019 , it occurred to me Now I've got a career as a communicator . I've been working in the field for a long time and occurred to me you know , years later , that I had never used my communication skills . In his honor , in his glory , right . So I said why have I not been doing that ? I need to do that . So I began to .
He began to inspire me and I began to to write , and I have a newsletter and all those things . But in 2020 , of course , you know , as the pandemic came , I was sitting at my dining room table and I said , okay , I'm going to , I'm going to do a podcast . I've been wanting to do a podcast and I want to do a podcast on hair and beauty .
That was what I was going to do and Laura stopped me in my tracks and said you're going to start a podcast , but it will be on joy , and I'm obedient . So I said , okay , lord , but what does that mean ? And I really did not know Exactly what he wanted me to say .
But he's revealed to me since then that he and a good thing is is I'm not the only one talking about joy . I really believe that he has put a mission on people's hearts , not just me . I'm seeing more and more people talk about joy . What I try to focus on is what real joy is , what true joy is . Right , we're getting twisted .
They get it confused and they think that being joyful is being happy all the time , having all these you know , wonderful things , everything going well , right . I do think that God does want good things for us , but he didn't promise that everything was always going to be okay . That was not his promise .
He'd be faithful to us , and so I have been , since that time , focusing on that . Focusing on , even if you are going through some mess , the God is in the middle of that mess , with you and you can .
That's right , absolutely yeah . So , honey , you got any questions before I start asking questions ?
You know , I was just looking at your website and one of the statements that you got at the top of your website it really stood out to me about joy isn't a feeling , it's a fate . You know , and that is so true because , you know , we think that it's something that we have to go through , but it's not .
It's based on our faith that we're going to make it , and I like that concept .
Yeah , absolutely , absolutely . So also , you said that you was in an unhappy marriage and not walking that out with the Lord . And so what ? Can you go just a step further with that ? I mean just with that thought of you know , yeah , of just not being happy , because I think that people don't they don't really know what happiness is . You know what I mean .
We have this idea , but what does that really look like and how is it attached to joy ?
For me , absolutely For me , when I was going through this unhappy marriage that failed . By the way , it was a failed marriage and I blamed myself for that . I blamed it , even though there were lots of circumstances . You know , my husband at that time was bipolar . I didn't know that going into marriage .
I'm not sure he knew that and it's a very difficult disorder . I'm not blaming him , but it's a very difficult order to handle and you really do have to have talk , therapy and medication and exercise and eat right .
I mean , it's almost a holistic thing , but if you're not doing that it can be very difficult to manage and for the marriage failed and I was having a real problem with that . What I learned during that time , it wasn't the fact that I was unhappy , but it was the fact that I wasn't walking that out with God . I was not leaning on him .
You know , proverbs 3-5 says trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding . I was not leaning on him , I was leaning on my own understanding .
I didn't know why things were going on and even if , whether or not I had stated the marriage or not , I think that if I had understood more what I know now that , as you said , joy is not a feeling , it is faith . I would deal with that because I have been . I've been a Christian .
I was raised Catholic , I went to Catholic Elementary School , baptized as a baby , the whole deal . I've been going to church forever , but there was a time , at least during that time , especially when I I like to say I was numb in my faith . I had faith , definitely a believer , but I wasn't a seeker and I like to characterize this as a seeker .
I just don't believe , but I want to know more . I want to develop a close relationship . I think that's really important for us to do . You can go to church every Sunday . It was almost like I was sleepwalking through my faith . I had a very numb feeling and that all came out after .
You know , after that crisis and as I said , the crisis definitely familiar , a familiar feeling , because I can say that I really went through the same thing , the same type of thing .
I didn't really realize until after the marriage had failed , the first marriage and I think that , oh , I know that God uses the worst times in our life to bring us completely to Him and we it's almost . For me , I feel like it's a transition .
We go from religion just doing all of the right things and going all of the right places , you know , in a timely matter and whatnot , and then we switch over to this religion , I mean , excuse me , relationship . It's like it becomes intimate . It's like now I want to know . It's like now I can .
It's like God saying to us now I can show you what you really need to see . You know what I mean . I just I've put you in position , I've got you in a place where you can now hear me .
You're not distracted , you're not compromising , you're not doing any of that , because right now it's like it's like it's like being in surgery and your heart is wide open . He's able to deposit what it is that he wants you to have , not what the world says , but what he wants you to have .
You know , get that yet , oh , I like that , I do , and I do get that . And you know what , when you're in that position , I mean you doubt everything . You doubt everything , realize what you've been going through , what you thought previously .
But if you just completely open your mind and let that doubt go and take in everything that he's giving you , now I don't want to say it's not hard , because it certainly can be hard , but there's not a whole lot of steps and scripture that I like to use for , especially for the podcast . It's in John 15 and it's under the vine and the branches .
One Sometimes you got to read a little . You can't just read those one things , you got to keep going . That's right Is . This tells us exactly what to do . We are supposed to abide in his love and do the fathers . Then we feel completely with joy .
I believe that people are searching for joy in lots of different ways and they may find fleeting happiness , but it's not going to be this joy that I'm talking about . People are chasing joy in other people . They're chasing it in substances , alcohol , addictions . They're chasing it just in trying to climb up the corporate ladder .
They're chasing it lots of different ways . You can't be a professional or you can't . You know . I mean , I was kind of person , I really enjoyed being married and I am remarried . God sent me a wonderful , but we are not . We know that we are not chasing each other . We're facing one person and it's not even person . We're chasing God .
That is the fine , that's reported Amen , amen .
You haven't thought something .
Yeah , I was going to say , you know I can totally agree with what you're saying about the failed marriage , because this is my second marriage as well .
But one thing I realize now is that , you know , sometimes we have to go through those bad spots in life to get where God really attended on us being , because you know , if it wasn't the fact that the bad marriages happened , we would take everything that happened for granted .
That's right , yes , but at the same token , you know we and I made the statement yesterday that you know you can't be so serious that you don't allow the laughter to hit , because sometimes we can be stuck in that mode of this is how it's got to be , this got to be this way , it's got to be at this certain time , it's got to be done at this certain time
. But at the same time , when we get in that mindset of it's got to happen this way and no other way , you do not have the chance to allow God to move .
No , I agree . And sometimes , sometimes , he reveals to you in the middle of it . You don't know . Maybe you don't know exactly what's happening , but you know that things are happening for a reason .
So one time in the middle of this , my ex-husband my husband at that time , who has since passed on , by the way asked me if I had made a mistake in marrying him , and I told him I don't believe in mistakes . I believe that this was what was supposed to happen .
I don't know what I meant by that at the time , but I remember saying yeah , I mean we definitely and you know I say this to the diamonds we definitely got a look . We got a look for God , we got a look for what he's saying to us . You know we don't want to just exist in this world . You know our purpose is bigger than existing .
You know we're supposed to . We should be leaving an imprint Michael has said that many times leaving an imprint into this world . We really need to leave our mark . You know , leave it . Don't just be here to be here , be here and do something and as . I mean that's not talking about you know , being works based type of thing .
It's talking about you know , making a real impact if it's not just for the one making an impact using your life as like you're using your life , all of the tests , and turning it into a testimony . Because , you know , I believe that a lot of people's joy is stolen through being ashamed of the things that they've been through .
I believe , that I truly believe that .
And it's good thing that you just said that , because I was just saying thinking just now . You know , sometimes we have to look beneath the flaws , Because if we just scratch the surface and see the flaws that we have in our lives , we cannot really comprehend the beauty behind the flaws .
I so agree . I so agree , yeah , I mean it's I talk about both in the book and on the podcast that we should be careful not to let the enemy rob us of our joy .
¶ Joy and Bible Reading's Importance
You know , things can sometimes not go the way we want to , or you know , we're seeing a situation we're in and we're only scratching the surface , as you said , not icing what is there for us . You know that he's , that he's put in our path . I mean , a lot of times we , you know , will come to an area in our path and it's not what we expected .
I'm calling myself Paul , but look what happened to Saul , that his past , and that happened . Right , he did not happen . That was very difficult for him , I'm sure . I mean difficult , I mean he was persecuted , he went to jail but , as we know through his writings , that did not stop him and he found a different kind of joy .
That's right , that's right . So , on your podcast , what is your message ? What is your message ? What is your message .
So my message to the world and it's just what we've been talking about is that joy is not a feeling , that it is faith , that we can only find the true joy of the Lord in abiding , living , dwelling in his love and doing the will of the father , which means we have to delve into the Bible .
That's another big but , as I said , I've been Christian for a long time , raised Christian , but in the church I went to , we went to church , we read scripture , but I wasn't really encouraged to read the Bible at home . Again , no blame is the truth .
And after that time , that kind of revelation when I just wanted to know more , right back in 2019 , bible war . The funny thing about reading the Bible is I only got into it because I heard of something called Bible journaling . Now , I like and I'm like what is Bible journaling ?
And it's an exercise where people are reading the Bible and they are creating artwork and they are , in a sense , catbooking to the Bible verses . And that's what got me back into the Bible . I started reading the Bible in a way I had never done before .
So , again , I never know how he's going to bring you in and I'm certainly not a Bible scholar , but I have read more in the last you know , let's say , five years , than I have the entirety of my life , and I can't do his will without knowing what his will is , and it's in my right here .
So we need to jump in his word , we need to stay in his word and it's an interview show , my podcast and everyone I talk to and it's you know , they have an interesting experience that they want to share , but they are in the word .
They have learned from the word that affects or relates to whatever their , their situation is , and so that is a big piece of it . So those two things to abide , dwell , live in his love and to do his will .
Absolutely . And what's in it Can you share with everybody that's listening to your podcast and how they can just listen to you further ? And you know your social media handles all of that good old stuff .
Absolutely . It's called the positively joy podcast and you can find it at positivelyjoycom or on Apple Spotify . Wherever you go for podcasts , find me on social media as possibly joy podcast . But let me just tell you really quickly , just real quick , about and this is another example of trust and being obedient .
Now , my , my words per se is not obedience , but I think obedience has a lot to do with us finding joy in our lives and situations . So I said I was sitting at that dining room table and I was going to do this podcast on hair and beauty , and he said , nope , it's going to be on joy .
So in the very beginning I said , okay , I'm going to call it the finding joy podcast . Well , I hadn't done any research , I didn't realize that there were a million finding joy podcasts out there . But I kind of came back to the Lord and we got to pick a name Lord , what's this going to be ? And and I clearly heard him say positively joy .
And the reason why I know it was him is because I'm I'm a journalist , I'm a bit of a word nerd and the name positively joy is not grammatically correct . And I told him I'm like Lord , that can't be right . If that's not grammatically correct . It should be joyful or joyous . And he was like what I say , right , right .
Come on , he'll do it every time , exactly .
Okay , and , and I named it that and it's , he told me before . Oh , it's catchy , I like it , or whatever , but being obedient as well , and so that is how the name came to be .
That's right , amen , amen . That's people say that about our , everybody , who . Because Power Match is such a great tool , platform that we can use to really , you know , reach people that we never knew . Podcast you know what I ?
mean .
And offers and all of that . And now everybody that reaches out to me or reaches out , I just love that name , I just love that name . Do you know ? We battle with that name .
I mean , we changed the name three times , three or four times , trying to get the right one , and just finally , god just said catch me to it , god's , because the first it was diamonds in the rough . Several other podcasts the same name and then , but none said God's , diamonds in the rough , amen .
And then we had one person say , oh , you need , you spelled rough wrong . And Michael said nope , that's the way it's supposed to be . You know what I mean ? She's supposed should be our OUGH . Nope , that's the uniqueness Cause it does rough . That rough get will bark on it . That bark , yeah , that rough will bark .
So you know , and definitely we all belong to God . We are surely sure enough a part of him . He meant as much as people like to deny , they want to deny . Oh , I , you know , I don't have no part . He , when he blew breath into dirt , he didn't excuse people . He , all his people , was made out of dirt . We go back to it when we leave this earth .
A man and I'm just , I'm just so , so excited about what God is doing in this season through people who really have a heart for him , a man that really have a heart for him . And you know you speak the same language . We speak Everything that you say , we say , we said it , so you know .
This is why that if we are reading this this is my whole thing If we're all reading the Bible , we all ought to be saying the same thing , absolutely . Different ways different , you know different translations yeah , yeah . It all sounds the same , though you know we ought to be saying the same thing .
I think that you know the worst thing we can do is come up with our own gospel . You know what I ?
mean Right .
With our own gospel . So we want to let you have your final words and we want to let Michael have final words , and I just share my phone , all right .
Well , again , I just I just want to thank you so much for allowing me to come on the show and I just want to encourage people to get back into their Bible and these things that we produce , these podcasts , the books that we write . So my book is Whispering in His Ear . It's an emotional study guide that goes with it .
It's on Amazon , you'll see that , and it's just an opportunity to communicate what he has been given to me to communicate you know , I am an average person . A lot of times I say I suffer from imposter syndrome because I don't have some big life story . I mean , I've been divorced . That's the story that we all can not all listen , let's do it .
But there's not a so-called miracle . But I would argue that miracles happen . Small miracles happen every day , and so I think it says these opportunities , the writing , books and the podcasts to get in a way that can get people to their on their level . But it doesn't . This is important , doesn't reflect back into the word . That's right .
That's right , absolutely Get into the word . If you abide in him , he will abide in you . Hallelujah , you got to make the first step . Come on , honey , you got a word .
Yeah , I do , and this word goes for you . You've had with your podcast name and who you are in Jesus , and as well as God's diamond and rough podcast and as well as the diamonds Listen , you know . God tells us , you know To be authentic , don't duplicate .
And that's a powerful word because you know we , we sit there and we go day to day trying to look like somebody else . God does not want that . He wants to original you . When you try to be a carbon copy , it has no value .
You have to be , you have to be real with who you are , no matter what you've been through , what you're going through , what might come up , because those things that we go through in life , it works for a reason .
If we , if we try to put blame and put claim to something that you know , things we go through in life and say is ours , it's not , it's just a tool used to get with you where God wants you .
Amen , amen , amen . Oh well , that was a word , hallelujah , um , so y'all know what time it is . Diamonds , I miss that . We certainly do appreciate you .
I just want to say that we appreciate you being here , we appreciate you sounding like us , we appreciate you for real having the same language that we got , because it's so hard for people , it seems so hard for people to come together to do the same thing because one wants to be bigger than the other , one wants to shine brighter than the other .
When the reality is is that when we come together , we shine brighter together . Amen , hallelujah . And especially when you put diamonds together , they all sparkling in their own unique way . Come on somebody .
Yes .
Hallelujah . So , honey , go ahead oh my time now . Yeah right .
Diamonds , remember until the next time . You are a diamond in the rough .
Amen . We will see y'all on next week . Have a blessed one , amen , amen .