[00:00:00] Austin: Kim. So ordinarily we would have a big preamble before we get into the, uh, the show today, but I wanna just hit this show out of the gate at 150 miles an hour, mock 10 diving straight into the deep end of the pool. So Kim, first off quickly. Hi. Thanks for being here. We're glad you're here. Welcome the show.
[00:00:22] Kim: Hi, thank you so much for having.
[00:00:24] Austin: Yes, of course. Now the reason I have this immense urgency to get into this topic today, which the topic today audience members is what we can do as an idea to combat the burnout that is facing according to nursing, uh, central.com and their study, they did last year, which states that 95.
[00:00:48] Staggering 95% of nurses reported feeling burnt out in their nursing position within the last three years in [00:01:00] quotes. So Kim and I today are gonna talk about some alternative career routes and directions that nurses can take as we are facing this monstrosity of an issue, which is again, nursing burnout.
[00:01:12] So Kim, where do we start?
[00:01:15] Kim: Well, I think any nurse got into nursing in the beginning from a good heart and a good standpoint where obviously you like caring for people and you want to give back the biggest complaint that I keep hearing with burnout is that people just feel like they. The nurses don't feel like they have the correct outlet to do that anymore, because especially with the pandemic, there's just been such a huge influx with patients so much overtime and a lot of treat and street going on.
[00:01:45] It's not a political thing. It's real time in nursing. There's with the nursing shortage, it seems like you're constantly being pulled back in. To go to the hospital or to go to the office and you just have lost [00:02:00] track of the whole reason why you're in nursing to begin with. Um, there are some great options.
[00:02:06] Medical aesthetics is booming. It's, it's just exploded a few years ago and it's continuing to skyrocket upward and nurses, especially in states like new. Have excellent, excellent opportunities in all big cities across the country, but even in rural areas anywhere, there's a person that looks in a mirror and says, you know what?
[00:02:29] I wanna tweak this that's medical aesthetics. So it's a gigantic industry to be able to get into. And the coolest thing about medical aesthetics and the reason why more and more nurses wanna get into it instead of just aestheticians, cosmetologists and doctors. So right. You have the lower ends education.
[00:02:47] I'm not knocking them. It's uh, the bread and butter kind of, of every single medical spot out. Um, the layman workers and then you have the doctors, usually that own the medical spots. So nurses [00:03:00] bridge that gap, first of all, but it's super cool because this is going back to your roots about giving back.
[00:03:06] It's it's literally like you look good. You feel good. And as a nurse in medical aesthetics, you're doing that for people. So yes, it's great to save lives. Yes. It's great to do whatever your duties are in the hospital, but this is like on a different level of satisfaction because it's not churn and. You get to work very closely with your patients.
[00:03:26] Most of the time, you're the patients come to you and you're like a shrink even, you know, mm-hmm , they share their life story with you. They like to vent. They hug you when they come, they hug you. When they go. There's a lot of satisfaction in work involves in working in medical aesthetics.
[00:03:43] Austin: Yes, a hundred percent agree.
[00:03:45] And there's all sorts of reasons why beyond that, I think that, uh, nurses might consider medical aesthetics things like, well, we'll get into this, but things like, I believe that the aesthetics universe is effectively recession [00:04:00] proof, but we'll come back to that. But I wanna set this problem with a bit more, uh, clearly, cuz I think it's, it deserves a bit of, um, um, Touch in the reverse gear to back up and explore this a bit further.
[00:04:11] So another stat that really stands out, you know, of the two on this report that I can see here that I wanna mention to the audience, because I think this is not just a message for nurses. This is also a message for spa owners. Different practice owners to start thinking about perhaps recruiting nurses that might be facing this.
[00:04:33] So this really a message for right, for the, for the spa owner, which is to say that 47.9% of, uh, burnt out nurses. So almost 50% of burnout nurses today report that they're actively looking for less stressful position or leaving nursing. All together now, I think as a spa owner, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
[00:04:58] We have a [00:05:00] crisis, which is, which is multi-varied here. The first is the, the medical side, which is, Hey, we're gonna see a reduction in a headcount at hospitals and ERs and, or, and OB GYNs, et cetera, C with nurses because they're leaving, they're getting burnt out. They're giving up, throw the towel. They're gonna go into medical aesthetics or become psychologists or shrinks or whatever.
[00:05:19] Um, and that's a whole other separate issue. My God, I don't know how we solve for that. That's terrifying prospect. Right. But also I think, again, as spot owners, there's an opportunity to, to start. Maybe perking your ears up to listen for signals from different communities or groups where nurses might congregate to, to throw them a life raft.
[00:05:39] Hey, there's another option here that you might think about and it's getting into aesthetics and here are some ways that you can get into that. So we're gonna be giving the audience, uh, a bit of a, uh, uh, roadmap on how you can shepherd nurses that maybe you run into spa owners on how they can get into aesthetics with education.
[00:05:55] And what have you, um, , it is very clear that there is a [00:06:00] massive crisis today with this, the mental health of nurses. And I think this might be, um, one of the antidotes. So any, any comments on that from, from this, um, vantage point of looking at this from the lens of a spot owner that might be worth sharing here in Kim?
[00:06:16] Kim: Yes, absolutely. Um, like I said, there are all different levels, especially when you get into the medical spot ownership, there are many, many state laws in every single state regarding who can own it, how you have to operate. And, um, then of course, from the moral standpoint, you want to operate as effectively as possible.
[00:06:37] So you need highly trained, passionate skills employee. And at least half of those employees need to also hold a medical license of an RN ship or hire to keep your own office or your own spot, if you will compliant. So anyone looking, you know, from the smallest office, it could be what's happening a lot.
[00:06:59] Now, [00:07:00] dental offices, the diets, even these are, um, doctors that are allowed. To use Botox from, for certain ailments. And obviously when they get comfortable with it, what is the first thing your loyal clientele asks you? Oh, Hey, can you fix this? What about that? You know, have you ever thought about going into facial aesthetics?
[00:07:22] So most of those doctors in those small offices are too busy with their regular clientele, staying in their lane, doing what they do for those clients. For those. So these are the people. These are the owners, the men and women that need those trained nurses, because those nurses can go to get injectable training.
[00:07:44] They'll get Botox training for, you know, injectables, meaning Botox and filler, and they can help those offices. On a twofold manner. One is from the medical aesthetic side. And most of the time, if you get into a small office, you're technically like your own [00:08:00] boss on that side of it, because you're running that for your employee.
[00:08:03] But then also, you know, you end up doing like a little multitasking you're. The doctor you're working with might need you to actually take up some regular nursing duties and then it becomes fun because now all of a sudden it's not stressful. It's just like, okay, great. You're making this wonderful salary.
[00:08:19] You're having this beautiful relationship with your patients. You're making them look better. You're making 'em feel great. And then every now and then you get to jump in and do what it was. You've always done with your life that you don't completely. So, like I said, it's like a little bit of a treat almost.
[00:08:35] And then if you wanna get into a huge office or any size office in between you can't. So if you're that personality as a nurse, um, you know, there's always the really big med spas there's PLA the big plastic surgical offices usually have very large med spas attached to their plastic surgeries. And they're also always looking for qualified nurses.
[00:08:59] More so than [00:09:00] aestheticians. Definitely more so than cosmetologists. Um, a lot of times they don't even offer medical massage. So they're not looking for massage therapists. They wanna find nurses that are interested in and skilled at the medical aesthetic side.
[00:09:16] Austin: One thing that jump to mind here, Kim, as I think about the, the harrowing.
[00:09:24] Uh, prospect of having a hospital devoid of nurses and, and nurses altogether leaving the industry of the, on the medical side is spa owners almost have a moral duty to rescue those that are facing burnout. And here's what I mean by that. And, and help clarify my thinking here, if you would. Okay. My understanding is that, is that nurses that leave the medical side of things that do get into medical aesthetics, they still actively maintain.
[00:09:53] They're nursing licensure. So it's conceivable then that as they're working in [00:10:00] the aesthetics universe, they're maintaining their licensure. Right. And, and that gives them a, a, a bit of a hiatus potentially. So if they just need a recess from the hospital life, they can have that for a few years. Build out a, a medical aesthetics practice.
[00:10:19] And then if they choose to perhaps things down the line might change in the medical realm, the hospital realm and the like, to where they might then return, if things were to change or maybe their tune changes or they, they missed the ER or whatever. So I guess the question is, is it common practice? And I'm assuming the answer's obviously yes, but is it common practice for nurses to maintain their licensure while working in aesthetic?
[00:10:43] Kim: Absolutely. And like you said, from a legal standpoint, those nurses need to maintain their status as being a licensed, a currently licensed nurse. So they'll never be giving up that status and that opens up a world of opportunity. I've [00:11:00] seen it all. I've seen nurses that leave the hospital atmosphere completely.
[00:11:04] And either work for themselves in their own office, they open up their own medical spa themselves, or they go to work for someone else, or they do a part-time gig where they work in their hospital or their doctor's office or clinic for their regular nursing job. Part-time and then they work for a medical spot or for themselves part-time.
[00:11:27] So this is like, it's like, um, Very very interesting opportunity because you can mix and match and literally create your own career. So if you wanna take that break, like you just said for a couple of years and jump into medical aesthetics, you know, bank the money and have fun doing it, and then circle back around.
[00:11:49] To a hospital type atmosphere. You have that opportunity. If you wanna leave and open up on your own, you have that opportunity. If you wanna leave and work full time for someone else in medical [00:12:00] aesthetics, you can, if you wanna do both and you can it's, it's like, it's so awesome. The opportunities that are out there right now because of the booming industry with medical aesthetics.
[00:12:11] Austin: Yeah. It, it seems like it gives them. A lot of optionality to, yes. Like you said, mold a career in the direction they want to go. And this actually bleeds into one of the things I wanted to ask you, which is, let's say there's someone in the audience today. That's saying, yes, that's me. I'm a nurse. I'm burnout.
[00:12:29] I'm sick of seeing, uh, what do they call them? Um, codes in the ER, you know, just night after night after night. I have friends that are nurses that work in Denver health. And they're getting to the point where they're sick of seeing gunshots every Friday night, you know, victims in their exactly in their ER.
[00:12:47] And it it's just, it taxes that absolute hell out of you. Um, so this brings to mind one of the questions I want to get your input on, which is what are some of the misconceptions that [00:13:00] nurses have that you see commonly, that we can address here that, uh, are looking at, shifting from. Working in the hospital to some sort of aesthetics role, be it with plastic surgeon, med spa, cetera.
[00:13:14] Kim: Yes. That's a great point. So I have seen and worked with. Nurses or I should say mentored nurses that had the misconception in the beginning, it was like, oh, I'm an RN or I'm a NP and I'm just gonna jump out and get another job. And I'll get on the job training most of the time, because no matter what industry it is right now in this pandemic world, we need qualified at at least like properly trained, even though you might have not, not have any practice out in field.
[00:13:45] You've gone ahead and graduated from a continuing education program. It could be a one day certification workshop with one specific machine, and then you see a plastic surgeon's office, for example, that provides that treatment. So you're [00:14:00] like, okay, that's definitely the place I wanna go and apply because now I have the certification to operate that machine.
[00:14:05] Or you could take a couple of different one day workshops, or you could jump into like a five or a seven day program and get. Intense training, get that certification. And then you are going to guaranteed be at the top of the list for every interview because you ha, like you said, you have your valid license and then you have current training on current devices with the most appealing medical aesthetics machines out there.
[00:14:32] So anyone that owns a med spa or is an individual doctor that's looking to hire is gonna be like, you're the one I have to see right now. So.
[00:14:45] Austin: Okay that, sorry to hijack what you were saying there, but this, I have to ask you that then presupposes that there's probably a best inroad to getting into aesthetics with, uh, respects to the education that they would receive.
[00:14:59] So [00:15:00] is there a particular inroad maybe it's I don't know, get training on this device. You'll be higher in a week or get training on this service or get this diploma or what, whatever. Different certifications are that are on the, all the carts of options. Is there a best inroad that you would suggest that nurses should be looking at if they wanna make the transition today?
[00:15:22] Kim: Yes, absolutely. There are. Um, Actually, let me step back. The first thing a nurse should decide is do you wanna be an injecting nurse or not? Cause not everyone does. There's a lot of money. It's extremely lucrative to be an injecting nurse, to do Botox and fillers to do threading. Um, you know, especially when it comes to injecting lips and lifting up your eyebrows.
[00:15:44] You know, those are like two of the biggest re um, requests across the entire world. Not just this. But not like I said, not everybody wants to inject. So if you decide you want to inject, the first thing you should do is contact Allergan. Who is the maker of [00:16:00] Botox. They have training programs across the country.
[00:16:04] If you don't have an available date with Allergan, or maybe don't even wanna go with and deal with like the big company, you want something much more face to face, you could do something like Google for your. Injecting courses. They're normally one to three days long, and they're going to cost a couple of thousand dollars, but it only takes one patient to make your money back.
[00:16:30] So you're the, in the investment you make in yourself will always come back to you. So there are offices, um, with very well known plastic surgeons like this plastic surgeon that I work with right now, Dr. Shani, he does a lot of one on one training. He's on fifth avenue in New York city and he also does group training.
[00:16:50] And he's affiliated with Swedish Institute, the college of health sciences here in New York city. And that is also what was like, I was going to say next. [00:17:00] So at Swedish Institute, college of health sciences, we have a specific medical aesthetics program. You can learn all of the cosmetic, um, medical aesthetic laser I P.
[00:17:13] Devices that are out there right now. It's all brand new devices. It's every single, uh, one of the in demand treatments. So from tattoo removal to wrinkles, to brown spots, to veins, facial veins, leg veins, to working on stretch marks, working on cellularly. This is all covered with lasers and with IPL and you learn.
[00:17:36] Things like patient selection, what skin condition goes with, what, which machine, what are the contraindications who has a health issue that can't do this treatment? What are the alternatives for that person, if any, that's all included in your education. So for a nurse that has like no major background in skincare, it hasn't gone to as technician school.
[00:17:58] They don't have to be nervous [00:18:00] because a great course is going to walk the nurse by the. Through every one of the requirements, everything that he or she needs to know to get through that class properly and then walk out into the real world and perform those treatments. And then we also have single day workshops in things like nonsurgical ultrasound, facelift.
[00:18:22] And, um, we do medical microneedling with L E D treatments, and we work with BTL for M sculpt and S sculpt, Neo that's like super crazy populars for body shaping and body sculpting. You could learn radio frequency for skin tightening on the face and on the body. There are some absolute fabulous options for single day workshops with certification.
[00:18:46] Provide. Or like I said, three to four to seven day programs when you wanna get into your lasers, lot of stuff out there. But that's what I suggest for nurses. Like I said, first of all, to recap, wouldn't be nervous [00:19:00] because you haven't turned around and, and done your aesthetic school training. That's technically fine.
[00:19:07] As long as you are smart and continu your education with a qualified. Accredited brick and mortar office. I'm personally not a huge fan of your initial course being online because you're treating the human body and every nurse knows cuz that's the whole core of their being. When you put hands on another body, you really need to have the practice on another body.
[00:19:33] It's not the same thing. It's just like, I'm just gonna sit here and watch this video. And now I know how to laser you. Absolutely not. You need to actually have the, the handpiece in your hands. You need to work on the skin to see this different skin reactions. And then you'll really truly understand when you walk out the door.
[00:19:52] And most of the time, all those education extremely affordable too. But like we said, in the beginning, when you invest in yourself, it's always going to come back to you. [00:20:00] Yeah,
[00:20:01] Austin: I completely. Is there anything nurses that are looking to transition, um, perhaps are commonly told they ought do, but can together skip.
[00:20:14] If they're looking to get into aesthetics.
[00:20:17] Kim: Um, I think commonly the first thing someone would say to you is, oh, do you need to go to skincare school? What do you know about skin histology and skin anatomy? So your question is perfect, but it just brings us back full circle to what we just said. If you find the right courses, Don't be afraid to ask the right questions before you sign up for those courses, whether they're three days, one day or seven days, what have you, um, ask, what is this, what, what is this education going to provide me with?
[00:20:44] Well, I understand how not only to treat the patient, but who this is good for and who it's not good for. Can I do this safely? Can I do this effective way? And if you get satisfactory answers to those questions, then you know, you're signing up with this, the correct office, or I should say the correct [00:21:00] school.
[00:21:00] Hmm.
[00:21:02] Austin: Yeah. All right. Well, what about, what about income potential? I mean, I would imagine that you've seen a ton of your students that have gone through the Institute, um, that have graduated with this certification, this training on that device, et cetera, that have come out and are probably making more money than they were as nurses in the hospital are stories like that common
[00:21:25] Kim: nurse experience.
[00:21:25] Absolutely. Absolutely. They're common enough to make us all wish. We all went to. Nursing school and came out at NP or an RN or whatever. if you're not already, you're like, oh my goodness, are you kidding? I need to do this. So I just wanted to quote a metics magazine just recently on July 21st released an article ONAC face viral beauty trends are influencing facial plastic surgery.
[00:21:50] There's one sentence out of this, that in particular that I wanna quote to you mm-hmm that. A release from the [00:22:00] 2021 American association of plastic surgeons, that it's a survey that they did, that the rise in facial procedures requested to enhance a patient's appearance on video has skyrocketed from 16%.
[00:22:15] To 79% in the last year alone. And that was also non non-surgical there. The, the 16% to 79%, just in 2021, that huge jump was including non-surgical procedures. So we're talking laser and, you know, not just laser tattoo removal, but we're talking about all different kinds of laser services, um, injectables with fillers and Botox threading.
[00:22:42] Um, and like I said, ultrasound and all of these other fun, great devices, like M sculpt for body shaping. There's so much you can do head to, to now that's not surgical. And that's all part of that official study. And it it's really eye popping to see that it went up 16 to 79% in one year. [00:23:00] That's that's like that wave that if you can catch that wave before it hits its peak and starts to tumble, you know, your earning potential has gone.
[00:23:11] So just to give you an example, uh, I myself will work with a nurse injector and, uh, usually once a month, outta my own private clinic, we will provide a, uh, all day P R P day. So it's just P R P injectables all day long. And the nurse comes in for one day and we're not even talking Botox. It's nothing chemical, it's just PRP.
[00:23:36] And he, or she easily walks out with three to $4,000 in. and it's on a 10 99 basis, but it's still, it's like, hi. Okay. You said you worked four hours, here's your money or here's the Z or here's the Venmo? Boom. . Wow. It's like, okay, thanks. Yeah. And it's not even a full day. We're not talking nine to five.
[00:23:57] We're not talking at eight to 7:00 [00:24:00] PM or 12 hour shift. It's like lit literally even like for someone to come in at my clinic and host Botox and fillers for one day. One patient that gets fillers, maybe one, two beach side. And does Botox 60 units, 50 units or 60 units across the forehead, the go and the temples that patient can easily be $3,500 one patient.
[00:24:26] So it's ins like your earning potential is insane. there's no better word to use right now. It's so incredible. What a nurse? Just on the side. Once you get busy, could make and salary just like working in the hospitals. When you go into these plastic surgeons, dermatologist office, med spas, no matter who owns them, if they're busy practices, which most of them are.
[00:24:53] Your salary offer to get hired is going to be extremely high because they don't want you to go back to the [00:25:00] hospital. They wanna keep you there in their office. So they're like, oh wait, what were you making in the hospital? Okay, let's talk because we're going to give you a lot more money than that. So you can get your salary and bonuses and commissions, or you could just work as a 10 99 independent contractor.
[00:25:16] And again, your earning potentials only limited by what you wanna. So if you only wanna work one day a month on the side, you can't, but if you're the person that says I'm gonna do this five days a week or anything in between or seven days a week, even cuz you're only gonna work one or two patients a day, it's so open ended that you literally can just create this whole beautiful world for yourself and think about it.
[00:25:42] Like it's so hard. What other professions right now? Can you actually say the same thing about
[00:25:47] Austin: very few right. Very few. And again, I think. The point that I was alluding to earlier that, um, the aesthetics space is largely, it seems at least [00:26:00] largely recession immune and, and almost, I mean, some of the people that I've had on the, the podcast in, in recent memory, even as recent as the last guest, saw a boom during COVID, because people started to realize.
[00:26:14] Wow or wow, not out. Wow. Self-care is important. Right? I should be getting more massages for example. And then you can join that with, with these phenomenons, like the lipstick effect, which I'm sure there's something similar, maybe like the Botox effect or the I don't the lipstick effect is this idea that during economic recessions and declines people actually spend maybe not more, but the same amount on con um, on.
[00:26:40] Little indulgences like lipstick and cosmetics, et cetera. Right, right. Because they wanna feel pretty when they're in a state of. Economic turmoil, whatever.
[00:26:50] Kim: Um, right. It's a stress reliever, Austin. You're absolutely correct. And especially now in the social media and the technology age that we live in, um, you know, here [00:27:00] we are, we're doing this podcast, this fabulous podcast, and we're staring at each other, but we're also, we see each other and we see ourselves.
[00:27:08] So there's a whole lot of looking at ourselves that never used to happen in the entirety of the human history of this. So things like TikTok face and zoom, boom, they're real. They TikTok face and zoom, boom, refer to the lowered self-esteem that people have had, especially since the beginning of the pandemic where we're all working from home, where most of us were working from home for quite a while.
[00:27:32] And we're constantly staring at ourselves on our laptops and our phones in these meetings. So self-esteem has plummeted. Ever since the pandemic started. And that's why more and more people, not only, like you said, Austin became aware of the need to be healthier. Which was great. That's always wonderful when people are starting to take better care of themselves, but also the need to wow.
[00:27:56] You know what, I'm finally going to get that base lift, or I always [00:28:00] wanted to just try Botox a little bit, or I heard about this machine and I think it's gonna be great, cuz I don't wanna do anything chemical and I don't wanna do anything invasive or surgical. So I'm gonna go try this because I can afford that.
[00:28:11] And it's got really good. There's again, there's, there's so much going on with the average person and it's not just women. It's men too. It's people that identify from any walk of life are just looking in the mirror saying, Ugh, I can fix this and I'm going to . So that's right. Why all of us in medical aesthetics already are like nurses come that you're burnt out.
[00:28:37] Come, come to us right now. We have a great life for you.
[00:28:40] Austin: Yeah. Well, you know, it's real and serious when this sort of concept the zoom effect and otherwise makes it into pub med and is researched by researchers. And, uh, it, to me, it points to this. Very, uh, content that we've been talking about the whole time, which is [00:29:00] there's a massive opportunity.
[00:29:01] And for those in the audience that are facing burnout, there is another way. So let's do a, a recap here and land the plane. So I wanna speak directly to the nurse. So two groups, the nurse facing burnout today, and the spa owner looking for talent. Cause there's two, uh, two avenues here that we could, could walk down.
[00:29:20] So first off let's do a. What is the message that you wanna put on a billboard for nurses to take away from, uh, this show today, as it pertains to everything that we've covered so far, bullet ties do this. Here's what you might think about, et cetera. Can we put that in bullet form as
[00:29:38] Kim: a recap for them? Yes, absolutely.
[00:29:40] So I would definitely suggest looking at programs, certification programs and medical aesthetics that are giving you a great education and a great springboard to start either your own business or to get hired very rapidly in an [00:30:00] establi medical spa and start earning either the extra income or have a completely different road.
[00:30:07] That you can travel and you could enjoy your passion of giving back and taking care of others without just feeling depressed and stress out all the time. So you can look at programs like the Swedish Institute, college of health sciences, and New York cities medical aesthetic program. The website is Emmy dot Swedish institute.com.
[00:30:30] And um, if you just Google Swedish Institute, medical aesthetics, it'll come. It's a perfect example of really strong programs that will get you to where you wanna go. Don't be afraid and don't be stressed out and upset because if you still have the want to be able to maintain your nursing license and give back and have that great one on one relationship with your patients without feeling completely stressed out and burnt out.
[00:30:58] This is a perfect [00:31:00] avenue for you.
[00:31:02] Austin: Love. And is there a message that you would leave spa owners with, that are looking for nursing talent for those from the pool, rather of those that are facing burnout? Anything specific that you'd say to them?
[00:31:14] Kim: Yes, absolutely. For the spa owners, for the medical spa, the medical offices that are looking to either establish a new office and they need to hire qualified staff to do that, or they already have an established office.
[00:31:28] They definitely need to take a good look at the resume. Of the, their nurses that are coming in and it's going to give them an opportunity. If they hire a nurse that are, is already certified in medical aesthetics, like I said earlier, even if that person doesn't have, uh, real time experience with patients, if they've been trained at a great program, those are the nurses you want to bring into your office because they're going to have the drive.
[00:31:54] They're going to have the passion. They've already proven that. Respect themselves [00:32:00] by continuing their education by reinvesting in themselves. And they're going to have the loyalty to the profession, ends to their office that they're working with because they're being loyal to their self and their own vision and their own journey throughout their nursing career.
[00:32:16] So, um, don't just hire just anybody. You always wanna look for the most qualified staff. And I say that, and you probably think Austin, that, that sounds funny, but it's, it's some, it's a common mistake from a spa mentoring side that I see all the time people will, these owners will fixate on, oh, this person's available right away.
[00:32:36] And they fit the salary requirement and it's like, whoa, wait, bump the breaks and read that resume again. They don't even fit your needs for your patient treatments. So this person's gonna cost you. Who knows, you know, it's gonna be a big mistake. Usually. Maybe they're gonna create an issue where there's a legal issue involved later on down the road, because they didn't treat a patient properly, [00:33:00] or it's just gonna cost you three times more than what you could have paid someone qualified to work for you because you're constantly gonna have to educate that person.
[00:33:08] Anyway. So as a someone that's an employer in hiring, you can cut past all of that and bring on something that's already been. and then as that nurse wants to learn more and more, you could have that. I guess you could say that kumbaya moment where you can sit down and talk and say, okay, this is awesome.
[00:33:29] You wanna continue your education even further to help me build out my practice even further. Fantastic. Let's talk about how we're gonna get this paid. So it works on both sides. I hope all that makes sense, right. That, um, you know, as a boss, as an employee, Um, you should both always look towards continuing education because tech moves too fast.
[00:33:51] Yes. So you know what we learned about anything we learned with tech five years ago, most of it doesn't even imply anymore. So [00:34:00] cont keep up your continuing education, follow a path that's true to your heart. As a nurse and don't be afraid because you didn't go to these like really big, long 600 hour, 800 hour thousand hour forces.
[00:34:13] You can still get there and get where you need to be. If you pick the right outlet for your continuing education. And as that spot owner, that's looking to hire. Pay attention and respect the people that are investing in themselves. The nurses that are continuing their education to get into things like medical aesthetics, and remember that they might be burnt out, but they are rare to go and passionate about this new opportunity that they have.
[00:34:40] Austin: Yeah. And don't forget audience members, that direction is more important than speed. Yes. So the central theme here. If you feel that you're in the wrong position role, you're burnt out. You're tired. You feel like you're getting your teeth kicked in. There's another [00:35:00] option and you don't have to get from zero to a hundred overnight.
[00:35:04] You take one step at a time, but that all starts with you being honest with yourself and assessing where you are and where you want to go. And looking at the Delta between the. Direction is more important in speed. And it's really interesting that you can, you can effectively take a class on how to use a device, and there's an opportunity on the other side of that, that will then again, get you closer towards your goal of maybe autonomy, maybe running your own business, um, which Artis will be creating a, launching a course on how to start a beauty business for the nurses that are looking at other, uh, professionals in the space estheticians and the like on how to do just.
[00:35:42] Maybe you don't wanna do that, in which case don't, you might be better off with a plastic surgeon or a med spa, et cetera, but there are other options. Therefore nurses facing burnout today, there is hope. And from my perspective, that's the message I wanna leave you with is that there is hope there are options or other things you [00:36:00] can do.
[00:36:00] To protect and preserve your sanity. So that's my closing note, Kim, anything from you stone wise or otherwise that we didn't turn over stone wise? That is, uh, or anything you wanted to share with the audience before we hop off for today?
[00:36:14] Kim: I think I would like to just continue what you just said that, um, you know, you don't have to jump off the ledge, but if you do wanna look for another door, there are other doors available and they don't entail.
[00:36:29] Um, it's not something like you said, Austin, it's not gonna happen overnight, but they don't until years and years more and thousands and thousands and thousands. And the tens of thousands and close to a hundred thousand are over a hundred thousand to get yourself reeducated, to get involved. It could be as simple as you latched on to the idea of what one device does, and you're going to be an expert with that one device, or you can just take it and sky's the limit and learn as much as you wanna learn.
[00:36:58] Um, like you said, [00:37:00] Austin, there there's tons of opportunity out there.
[00:37:05] Austin: Yes. And there's a quote I am dying to find right now and I can't find it, but it's a quote that is something like this. I'll paraphrase it and hopefully not sabotage butcher in the process. So it's a quote from Naval. Now he's in a different universe tech, uh, and investing in the bay area, but Naval Robert K um, big figure on Twitter.
[00:37:24] And he has this tweet, this idea that. Something to the effect of when inspiration knocks, you have to act swiftly because it fades and it evaporates and it's momentary. So meaning here's the point again, full circle and closing here. If you feel a knock on the door and you are today, a burnt out nurse and you're starved for another option, here's one that you might look at.
[00:37:51] There is hope.
[00:37:53] Kim: Definitely there is hope hundred percent.
[00:37:56] Austin: There is. Awesome. Well, [00:38:00] Kim, it's been an absolute delight. Where can the listeners connect with you if they wanna find you here there or
[00:38:06] Kim: elsewhere? Okay. Thank you. I'm K law skin pro on Instagram. So KLA skin pro on Instagram, or if anyone has indepth questions about the medical aesthetics program at Swedish Institute in New York city, you could simply email me at Kim led.
[00:38:26] I need to shorten my name. So it's Kim L Kim L a U D as in David, a T as in Tom, I at Swedish Institute, EDU, I would love to take your questions and help you on your journey or help you get your started on your journey or decipher exactly where you're gonna go on your journey.
[00:38:47] Austin: Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
[00:38:49] Well, I will link those, uh, links or put those links into show notes today. So listeners will have, uh, ease of a time clicking through to those different destinations on IG cetera, [00:39:00] and, uh, with that, Kim, thanks for being on the show today. Thank you so much. Awesome. Be well, be well.