I grabbed him by the shirt and I yanked him up in the bed and I said, listen to me, you are not going to die. Do you understand me? You are not dying until you're solely secure. I rebuke the spirit of death off of you and I call life back into your body. Yes. And I went, I said that? Wow. That was the Holy Spirit operating through you. It was. And he lived several years longer after that. Wow. God promises in Joel 2, 28 to pour out his spirit on all humanity.
Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend for that promise outpouring, we equip for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Bus. And I'm Sharon Bus. Welcome to the podcast today. You know, I think all of us probably have loved ones that we have labored in prayer for and we've wondered, are they going to make it to heaven? Are they going to make it? And we pray and we pray.
And sometimes it's just until the last minute or a short time before they go home that they actually welcome Jesus into their hearts. So we have with us today, our beloved friend, Shirley Smith, and she is going to share with us some of her experiences as a nurse and just as a daughter and a loved one of people that have had experiences with Jesus just before they died and they made it into the kingdom. And this will just build your faith. We're so happy that you've joined us today.
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This will be a place for you to connect with people of like precious faith, worship together, pray together, we'll have great times of intercession and great times of going deep into the word and hearing things that God is doing in the world. It'll be about the nations. It'll be about getting your whole family, but it's a family camp. Bring your whole family. We've got a nursery for the babies and we've got children's meetings.
We've got youth meetings so that everybody in the family is gonna have an experience with God. So make sure that you get with us on that event because it's going to be life changing for you. It's gonna be our 50th annual event. I can hardly believe that we've lived that long because we feel so young. So, but it's a milestone. It's like a jubilee. So come and participate with us. Shirley, thank you so much for joining us again on this episode of the Global Outpouring Podcast.
You know, we've just recently lost one of our dear friends that was a mutual friend of both of us, Linda Hartzell, and we've been talking about the things that happen when people get close to passing over to the other side. Now, you're a nurse. You've been, I don't know how many years you spent in that field, but share some of the stories that you know of people that are getting ready to cross over so that people understand.
This is another one of those experiences that builds your faith because you realize, oh, there really is something beyond now. Yeah, well, let me say this first. Many years ago, my father had another heart attack and his life was kind of on the line then. And hospice was coming in to take care of him.
And he said to the RN that was over hospice that came to my house, he said, now, Ms. Smith, he said, if your dad starts talking about people that he knew real well that was close friends, if he starts talking to them or about them, he's seeing them. And I said, really? He said, yes, when they get this close to death like he is, they see on the other side. Yeah. And I said, oh, okay. Because he was talking about some people. But I stepped in because my father, his soul was not secure.
Wow. And I said, we can't do it. We cannot. Shortly after that, he turned real dark and he didn't have any oxygen. And my mother kind of went hysterical. And I said, hey, you just go call the ambulance and let me take care of him. I was just gonna lift him up where he could breathe better. And that wasn't what I did. I grabbed him by the shirt and I yanked him up in the bed. And I said, listen to me, you are not going to die. Do you understand me? You are not dying until your soul is secure.
I rebuke the spirit of death off of you. And I call life back into your body. Yes. And I went, I said that? Wow. That was the Holy Spirit operating through you. It was. And he lived several years longer after that. Wow. I was so shocked. I can't believe I said those words. Well, you did. It wasn't me. It didn't. I mean, God used your mouth and your lips, but. Right. But I had prayed for so many years for his salvation.
Yes. And anyway, just before he passed, years later, I always went to the hospital and stayed in the room with him when he went in. Because being a nurse, I didn't trust the rest of them. You know, I had to oversee everything. But this day, I went to lunch. The Cracker Barrel was right next door to Baptist Hospital where he was. And I went over there and I said, I'll be back in about 30, 45 minutes. So I left.
Well, a friend, a family friend of ours who knew him real well, come to see him while I was gone. And the Lord sent him up there to pray with him for his soul. Good. And I didn't know any of this. So this is his story of what happened. So his name was Charlie Bird. So when I came back from eating and I walked, when I got to the door of the hospital room, my dad said, come here. He was always a real rough spoken person. Come here. And I said, what do you need?
I thought he was gonna say, did you bring me something? Or do you know, you're two minutes late. He always was stickler on time. And I said, what do you need? He said, come here and shake my hand. I went, shake your hand? He said, yes, I'm a brand new man. I'm a new creation, praise the Lord. Yeah. Ooh. I about dropped my lunch. I said, what happened to you while I was gone? Yeah. He said, well, Charlie Bird come to see me and he prayed with me for salvation. And he said, I'm a brand new man.
I'm a new creation. Glory to God. I was just, I can hardly process it. I'd prayed for so many years. So I talked to Charlie and here's what Charlie says. Now I don't understand it. I'm just gonna tell you what he saw. So Charlie comes in while I was gone to lunch and the Lord sent him especially to speak to my dad about his soul. So he kept trying to talk to my dad and the Lord would say, not now, not now. The nurse would leave the room and he'd jump up and hit the Lord and say, not now.
And so anyway, so finally the Lord said, now's the time. So he said, I jumped up out of the chair and I stood in front of your dad and I said, Mr. Willard, I come here to talk to you and to pray for you. He said, you're 94 years old and you're in bad health and your time on earth is probably gonna be up pretty soon. We need to know that your soul is secure. May I pray with you for salvation? My dad said, yes. Wow. He said, I stood there in front of your dad and he disappeared out of the chair.
Oh my goodness. And he said, I thought, I didn't see that. And he looked back, he said, there sat your dad. But it was just a silhouette of light around his body. Wow. Is all he could see. And then he said, I started to pray again and your dad took off, he was gone again. It happened four times. Wow. And finally the last time he was able to pray from my dad and my dad received the salvation. And my dad was extremely proud man. He would never raise his hand for nobody.
But that was a total surrender. And he was raising both hands when I walked in. Wow. Glory to God. So it was an awesome, awesome experience. I don't understand it to today, I don't have to. But Charlie said, so Charlie went near when I got there and I said, well, where'd Charlie go? He said, I don't know, he left the room. So when I talked to Charlie later, he said, Charlie, I was so excited, I had a runaway. And I just went down the hallway and got in the bathroom and shouted my head off.
He said, I never seen anything like that. Wow. So my dad was gloriously saved and transformed before he died three months later. And my dad had, and just being very open and honest, we were raised in Louisiana where prejudice was a big thing with the black families. So before he passed away, my mom had a lady that came in to clean house and help her in the kitchen. And she was a black lady. Her name was Helen. And my dad had changed so drastically. Really?
That I was there one day when she was leaving and she walked around in a chair to get to the door and he said, hey, come here. He was still real rough spoken, you know. Hey, come here, Helen, come here. She said, Mr. Clovis, what you want? Come around here. So she walked around and he said, you didn't hug my neck before you left. Oh, wow. My mouth. Wow. That's God. That's a God thing. His countenance glowed. Thank you, Jesus. For three months before. And he was a very, very abusive man.
Wow. All of my life. He brought my mom over and he said, Louise, come over here and stand in front of me, please. And everybody in the family, all the granddaughters and my sister and I were there. And he said, I didn't treat you right. And I want to apologize and ask you to forgive me. Wow. In front of everybody. In front of everybody. You knew that the pride was gone and he was a very proud man. My goodness. That was a God thing. Yes. Oh, thank you. It was a Holy Spirit.
So that was such comfort to me. And it was so miraculous to see. And then, you know, my dad, he had a very painful childhood growing up. Very, very painful. And he was never a toucher. But when he was in his recliner before he passed, he'd tell me, he said, come here. Come here, sister. Come here and sit down. I said, what you want? Come hold my hand. Wow. Hold his hand. The very hand that used to slap you. Yeah. We were in shock.
And so I'd give him my hand and he'd take it and he'd put it up to his face. Oh. He'd just pat my hand. He didn't kiss my hand, but he would just put it to his face. And everybody in the family he took turns, he was just apologizing. Wow. And connecting with everybody. Wow, what a work of God. Oh yes, it was beautiful. And we had cameras with flashes and we got lots of pictures of that homecoming. And my parents were night clubbers. Oh my. And they were great dancers.
And so my sister brought, when she came in during that time, just before he was home going, she brought sentimental journey, which was their favorite song. Oh. And my mom was blind. She had glaucoma at that time. And macular degeneration too. And so he said to my mom, he said, Louise, come over here. And she went and he just grabbed her and they just waved back and forth to that song. Oh. And I looked at him and he's saying goodbye. Mm. He's saying goodbye. This is the last dance they'll have.
Mm. It was so beautiful and we captured that on film. Oh sweet. So the Lord gave us such a beautiful, cause I stood in the gap and stood in the gap and stood in the gap for him. Right. And I've been with him for so many years cause my mom even attempted suicide at one time and had brain surgery. We had so much trauma in our home, but God did such healing. Thank you Jesus. Tremendous healing. Someday I'd like to do a podcast on how I dealt with mama at her death.
Oh. Yeah. Well, why don't you go ahead and talk about it? Well, you know, there was so much abuse in the family. I cannot even begin to tell you the kind of abuse that she endured. I don't know how she lived through it. And it was not an occasional thing. It wasn't triggered by alcohol or nothing. Cause that was, alcohol was not a problem in our home. It was anger and temper and violence, violence, violence. And so the pain was so acute among all of us in the family.
We all severed from the environment that we lived in. So my mom was blind and she had cancer. And so I went to stay with her. We had just built our house and James had already retired. So, you know, he, I didn't have to be there to fix food or anything. And he was so sweet. He loved my mother so much. And he was very willing for me to stay with her. And then he would relieve me on the weekends and he would stay with her at her house. And. This is after your dad passed.
Yeah. This is after he passed, right? So my niece, she wanted the history of the family. She was going to do a diary on our family genealogy. And so she said, I need you to talk to grandma while you're there so I can know what to write. And I said, okay. I knew she didn't want to hear a lot of what was going to be said. So I was not going to include that. But so I started with my mother from the first time, from when she first got married.
And there were so many years that she'd say, I can't go there. I can't. I can't go there. I said, okay, it's okay. Just forget that one. Go to some other, another year, another time, another place. And that happened many times. It was the memory of what all happened with her and to her was so painful she couldn't talk about it. So it took me two and a half to three months to dialogue with her. And so I knew everything. Of course, I was dealing with things I hadn't even heard to, you know?
So I knew the history of everything. And so she got worse and we had to put her in the hospital and she fell and fractured her pelvic, which is a very painful thing to have. And cause I've nursed a lot of people that had fractured pelvics. And she was in the hospital and I was staying with her and I could see that she was getting weaker and weaker and weaker. And I could tell that her time was gonna soon be up.
I was really praying for it to be because I think she has been in pain all of her life. So I don't want to see her end her life in pain. And so I went to the doctor and I said, you have to give her something stronger because I could hear her screaming all the way down the hallway from the pain of the pelvic whenever I got off the elevator. And I said, I can't take anymore and she can't either. And he said, well, I am trying to save lives and I take them. I said, well, you do something else then.
You get somebody in here that can. And he said, well, I have to call hospice. They can come in. I said, well, get them on the phone. So he did. And they came and they gave her some meds because first time she got easy for five long days. She got easy and she wasn't screaming with pain anymore. And about two o'clock, because I never left the hospital hardly ever with her except to go downstairs to eat or something. And I went across the hallway because she began to rest.
And I heard the death rattle in her throat and I knew that she was going. And so I went across the hallway and I said, God, I am mad. I am mad at you. I said, my mother has been such horrible, horrible pain. And you have done nothing, absolutely nothing to rid her of that. And that was kind of the way I started out praying. And so I just sat there for a minute and the Lord said, she has tied my hands. Oh. I said, how does she do that? He said, because she doesn't forgive.
Oh, that's very serious. Yeah. Because if you don't forgive, you won't be forgiven. Exactly. I said, she can't, she's out of it and is will be until she passes. How can she forgive? How can she say anything? She's not even coherent. And he said, you can, you can stand in the gap. You can, I had dialogued with her for three months and I knew the whole history. Oh. And the Lord said, I'm going to kill you. And the Lord said, you can repent for her. Wow. I was so scared. Oh my.
I said, give me scripture. Said, whoever sins you retain are retained. That's right. Those you forgive are forgiven. Beautiful. The Lord said, stand in the gap for her because she can't do it. Wow. So I spent about an hour and a half in prayer and just till I emptied out everything. They've been pent up in me and pent up in her. Wow. It was a healing for me as well as a deliverance. Beautiful. For her.
Wow. And so I felt the whole thing lift and I knew the Lord said, now she's ready for her burial. Wow. Look at that. So I walked back across the hallway to her room and I said, mom, I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can understand me, but I want you to know your soul is secure. Wow. I want you to know everything is okay. Thank you Jesus. That I have repented on behalf of you. I've stood in the gap and God has forgiven you. Wow. And the Lord said, now I know her for her.
But I said, I don't have any oil. And I went looking around in the bathroom, there was some baby oil. I just went and got the baby oil. And I said, Lord, I said, mom, I'm going to anoint you with this baby oil for your burial because you're going to soon be in the arms of Jesus. Wow. And that was my closure with her. Wow. It was beautiful. It brought such healing to me.
Yes. I had that pent up in me for so many years, years and years, all my life really, because there were times I would just, we would beg her to leave. And she was too scared to leave. Wow. And we'd say, my sister and I said, we'll get a job. You can work, we can work, we can make it. She said, no, he'll come after me. So we were stuck. Wow. But in the end, he repented. He repented and I repented for her. Wow. And that brings me up to where my husband passed last year.
Okay. I was sitting up at the hospital with him. It's about two o'clock in the morning and I was asleep in a recliner next to his bed and he woke me up and he said, guess who I just saw? I said, I don't know. He said, I just saw my aunt and both of all of these people were passed. He said, I just saw my aunt and my uncle and I saw your mom and your dad and I saw my dad and James had led his dad to the Lord on his deathbed. Wow. Yeah. And his dad had had a stroke too.
And he said, I saw all these people. He said, and who are all these people around my bed? I said, I'm not sure. I wasn't seeing anybody, but I didn't want to discourage him. Right. I said, I'm not sure who they are. That was a good answer. And he said, well, who is that man standing right there? I said, I don't really know him either. And he said, well, my aunt and uncle is telling me and these people are telling me to come on. Said, you see that door right there?
They telling me I have to go through this door right here. And he said, sure, it's a big door. I said, but James, you're strong. You can, I know you can open the door. Wow. And he saw my parents and his aunt and uncle and his dad. They didn't mention his mom and I don't know where she was in this situation, but or if she was there and just wasn't on the scene or what, but she died years later. But anyway, he saw on the other side.
Well, the day of James's funeral, and you all were there, you all attended that day. My sister failed that day. She was in rehab. She had a broke foot and she was in rehab and she had to go to the bathroom about 11 o'clock at night. She had to go to the bathroom. And she asked them to, she put the light on to come and help her to go to the bathroom. And nobody came and nobody came and nobody came. And she said, well, I don't want to mess up the bed and mess up me.
I'm just going to get up and go on my own. And of course she had the brace on her foot. And when you sit up, your blood pressure fluctuates. She does. So when she stood up, she fell from a standing position face down on concrete. And she laid there for an hour or a little more before anybody found her. Cause they didn't come. Oh no. Yeah. So this was the day of the funeral. Oh my. So she lasted about two weeks.
Cause I've been sitting up with James and going back and forth for two months, little over two months. So I went home with my daughter and then I got the phone call that she had failed and she's not in good condition. She's had a brain bleed. If you want to see her before she passes, you need to come. So I turned around and called a plane and went to Texas. And let me just share this too, since I'm being very open and honest about everything.
It was a great, great breach between my sister and I. I was highly favored of my father. And I was with him. I mean, I was a tomboy. Yeah. You were the son that he didn't have. Exactly. I went frog hunting, gator hunting, fishing. The stories of the gator hunting. We have to tell people to go back to get that episode where you talked about all that. Right. So we were always fishing. We'd fish the Gulf a lot because she didn't like to do things like that.
She wanted to read a book like my mom did. She was a quiet, she was an inside person. That was boring to me. I was one wild blue yonder. That was training for you. It was. Where God would take you later. That's right. And so it put a breach between us. So that was never made right. Oh really? No, it was always underneath. She always had an anger toward me. It was always very critical of me. In our adulthood she was also. And so anyway, I just kind of smeared over and go on.
And I'd been taking care of her the last couple of years when she was in recovery from heart condition and different things, another accident she had. So the first of January of last year, the Lord told me to tell my sister that I loved her. We had never exchanged those words in our life. Oh my. Mm-mm, mm-mm. So he said, you all are to exchange this.
So I told her what the, I said, you know, this is not gonna sound probably anything you wanna hear, but I said, this is what the Lord's been telling me and that we need to tell each other that we love each other. She went, hmm. Okay. I went, okay. So that was step one, you know. And so when we would hang up the phone, we would just say, bye. And that went on for two or three months and the Lord kept telling me and I still couldn't say it. Really? Mm-mm, could not.
I don't know why, but I just could not. And she could not and we still didn't say it. So then I wrote her a letter and she wrote me back and I just put Shirley and she put Billy. We didn't say, love you, Billy, love you, Shirley. We just put our names. See you later, Billy. You know, still just would not come. Wow. Crazy. And so now that she's fallen and she's in the hospital, I turned and flew back to Fort Worth.
So I went back and I stayed with her at the hospital and I thought, I need to say something. I need to tell her something. Well, she couldn't hear, she couldn't talk. By then she, I mean, she had a brain bleed and her memory, even her memory was not good. She knew who I was, but she couldn't talk, you know? And then she got a little better after three or four days and where she could, the words weren't clear, but she just tried to figure out what she was saying.
And so I told my niece what the Lord had told me and I said we hadn't been able to do that. And she said, well Aunt Charlie, you know, she's not gonna make it. Wow. And you need to do that. I went, I know, I know, I know. How long have I known? Yeah. So anyway, she kind of forced me and she said, Mom, Aunt Charlie has something to tell you. Mm-hmm. And you need to respond to her, she said. And so I went up to her bed and I said, Billy, I love you.
There was not any feelings, it was just a word to me. And she just looked at me. And Ginger says, tell her again. I said, Billy, I love you. And she went. Oh my, she pulled back. Yeah, just looked and looked. I looked deep in my eyes, I could see she's trying to process. Yeah. Wow. What I'm saying. It was one of those moments in time. Wow. Really. So my niece said, Mom, you need to respond to her. And she just kept looking at me. She said, tell her again.
And I said, Billy, I want you to know that I love you. She said, now Mom, respond to her. And she couldn't speak clearly, but she said, I love you. Glory to God. I don't know what it was, but there was a yoke on my shoulders, a heavy yoke as heavy as wood that I felt that just fell off of my shoulders. I did not even know it was there. Wow. Wow. And I don't even know what it was. I still don't know to this day, but I felt it fall off of my shoulders. Wow. And there was such a compassion.
Wow. The whole thoughts toward her were so different. Glory to God. So God just did a beautiful healing. How amazing. I know. That's beautiful. So there was a chaplain there in the hospital and she didn't die until a couple of weeks later, but there was a chaplain in the hospital. And I wanted to tell him about some experiences, about what James had seen and all of this. And he said, I hear these stories every day, all day from people. Wow. I said, for real? He said, yes.
He told me a lot of beautiful stories he had heard very similar to mine. Wow. And I said, well, you know, this is a strange one and I don't know if you've ever heard anything like this. I said, but my husband's grandfather, just before he passed, I said his son-in-law was with him. And he said to his son-in-law, I'm getting ready to go. He said, look, do you see that boat coming over there? Wow. And he said, Papa, that's for your eyes. I don't see it. He said, look, oh, it's getting closer.
Oh, he said, and Jesus is standing up. He's standing up in the boat. Wow. And I told that to this man. He said, I've heard that story several times. Wow. Glory to God. Yeah, I've heard that story several times. So our little educated minds can't comprehend the supernatural. Right, right. It amazes me the kindness of the Lord to prepare people to get as far as they possibly can. I remember Mary-Lois Little telling the story about how her dad was, he was a believer, but he wasn't very deep.
And she was wanting to get him filled with the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. And she kind of nagged him, I think. I think that's the way to put it. Maybe that's too strong of a word. But she was really after him to try and get him into this place in God, because she had gotten into, and it's so wonderful, and dad, you need to come and do this. Well, finally the Lord said to her, he's gone as far as he can go. Leave him alone. Because he knows our limitations.
He knows what we're capable of. He knows the choices that we've made through our lives that have affected how far we can go. But like your dad had been just rough all those years, 94 years. Yes, and deeply wounded all those years. He was wounded and hurt people hurt people. So he was busy passing on the wounds to others all around him because misery loves company. But God is so kind. He's so kind.
You know, the first thing that he says about himself on Mount Sinai with Moses, the first thing that he says about himself, first he roars his name twice. And then he says, I don't remember exactly how the verb is conjugated or how the word is in Hebrew. I'm not a Hebrew scholar. I'm a Hebrew scholar wannabe. But he uses the word, Raham, Rahamim, that has its root in the word Rahum. It means compassionate. And it has the same root word as the word womb. Wow. So it's like womb mercies.
That's the first thing he says about himself is I have womb mercies for you. I'm going to take care of you like a mother takes care of her baby, the child of her womb. You know, when you carry a child in your womb, there's something that happens to connect you to that person for all of your life. And recently I've been hearing that even that your DNA as the mother goes into that child. And it's not the same as the DNA of the formation.
You know, God takes a piece of mama and a piece of daddy and puts them together and makes this baby. It's not that DNA. It's the mother's own DNA that is floating around in her body that goes into the child and the child's DNA comes into the mother and you can carry that all your life. Isn't that amazing? Yes. Okay, so that's what our father is doing. You know, he is, you know, when he made Adam, he made him in his own image. That was before he separated Eve out of Adam.
So our father, he really has this mothering as well as fathering. So there's that soft, kind, compassionate, loving kindness and tender mercies that, I mean, he says all these wonderful things about himself and how much grace he has and how much mercy he has. He's describing himself to Moses when Moses said, show me your glory. This is his character. There's so much. It's almost like a solter. Yeah, yeah. And he has a place in him for us.
Yes. Each and every one of us, there's a spot in him that we belong and there's a spot in us that he belongs. We're not complete until that connection is made. And I think we have, we make choices all of our lives as to how much of that connection we're going to embrace. That's right. And how much we're gonna let him do the healings. You've walked through lots and lots of healings in your life. You've told us several stories of those kinds of things.
And I just love hearing the work of God, the accomplishments that he has done in you. And he's done in all of us. And the more we yield to him and allow him to do these things, these are things that he loves to do before he takes us home. Yes. I'm thinking about our friend Linda that we just held her service yesterday and we streamed the celebration of her life.
And it was amazing to me to hear the stories that people were sharing about how much she loved the Lord, how much she was all about going to the nations. And then we kind of heard some of the flesh stuff, cause we all have flesh, we all have flesh flashes. But we heard about several of her flesh flashes and Phillip and I have experienced those things too. I mean, you work with people and you're gonna find those things happen. But you can only hide so long.
You get under pressure, you get under pressure and you're gonna find out what's in you. Iron sharpens iron. Yes, iron sharpens iron. But I found it so amazing that after she had that stroke, we thought it was 10 years ago, but I've just put the numbers together. It was really nine years ago. She had this stroke and people were talking about how she changed after she had this stroke. Now, we don't think in terms of God giving a person a stroke.
We always think that that's the devil that does that. But we know that God doesn't waste anything. And I like to look at the last verse of Romans 11, where it says from him and to him and through him are all things. There's a song on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we sing it. We sing it all the time. So my point is this, that this nine years, there were things that happened as a result of the stroke that impaired her in certain ways.
But it was amazing to me how people talked about how she was sweeter and mellower as a result of this. And it's not like I'm saying that God causes these things, but he filters those things through him, through him in order to bring people into a place that's closer to him and a humbling, just like you did with your dad.
He brought him into a place of humbling himself and letting go of the pride and apologizing and touching and speaking and holding your mom and things that he had never done before. And that was healing for her. But you had to go further than that because of the much trauma that he had caused. But I just, I wanna say thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Father, for the amazing things that you do to help us get as far as we can go.
As far as we can go, as close as we can go, deal with as much stuff as we can deal with before we cross over. Because that bad stuff stays behind. I love what Dean Braxton says, talking about family in heaven. And he says, now you may think that you don't want to be with family in heaven because of the way they treat you here on earth. He said, but it's not like that there. None of that is there. Everything is right and you fit. There's no more rejection.
And God is working in us to get us into that place on earth as it is in heaven. Just before COVID hit, Margaret and I was in, in Mindy, was in Ecuador. And we'd visit a gorgeous waterfall that day, a huge waterfall. And I heard music, like music coming out of that waterfall. And I was standing at the fence, because it's all fenced off. And I started talking to my dad. And I said, Dad, you would love to see this waterfall. Oh, if you was here, you'd be fishing. My dad was a great fisherman.
You'd be fishing right down at the bottom. And this is so beautiful, so beautiful. So Margaret walks up, she says, are you talking to your daddy? And I said, yes, I am. He would love it here, just love it. Sweet. I wish he could seen this before he passed away. And so that's all I said. Well, that night we were all sleeping in the same room and I woke him up. I was crying and can't explain what that was. I don't know, it was just a visitation. It was a vision. It was not a dream.
And I was sitting at the end of a trail on a bench and I looked down this pathway and I saw this man. And I went, hmm, about the size of my dad. Hmm. And he walked a little, got a little closer. And I said, he even walks like him. My dad had a gait that was, I followed all my life. You know, I knew very well how he walked. Well, he even walks like him. And he got a little closer, a little closer. And I went, he looks like him. God, is that my daddy? And about that time, he called my name.
He called my name. And I ran down this pathway to him. He held his denim overalls like he always would. And I just grabbed a hold of him. And he was a young man. Yes, just like in heaven. Yeah, my father was a very, very handsome man that made a lot of problems. Oh. But he was a very, very handsome man. He had this long black eyelashes that curled up. Why do men get them and women don't? I don't know if you understand that. I know it, and his black eyebrows.
He had this dimple in his chin and he was dark complexed and he had black hair. And he was built real nice. And the women just went after him because he was a very handsome man. But he wasn't his age. He was a real young man, like in his 30s. Yeah, like in his 30s. That's typical. It was long, thick, long, curled up. And my grandsons had those same kind. And I was just shocked and I just hugged him and held onto him and was crying. I woke him all up. So I said, they said, what's wrong?
What's wrong? What's wrong? I said, I just saw my daddy. I just saw my daddy. It was not a dream. I was totally awake. And I was gonna tell him he needed to see that waterfall. But I was so overwhelmed with seeing him that I forgot about the waterfall. It was amazing. Isn't that something? Yes. The veil is getting thinner. That's what I said too. The veil's getting thinner. It was awesome. And I think he's probably fishes in that waterfall.
Well, I just want to encourage our listeners that heaven is closer than we think. Yes. Jesus is closer than we think. And our loved ones are closer than we think. And if you've lost a loved one recently, the Lord wants you to know that he is there for you. And your loved one is just not as far away as you might think. And God wants you to be comforted that even as David said about the child of his love affair with Bathsheba.
And when the child died, David said, he can't come back to me, but I'll go to him. And our loved ones are in our future. If they knew Jesus as their Lord and savior. And we have all of eternity with them. So in the grand scheme of things, the way God sees things, it's a very, very short time until we'll be reunited with them. And we have all of eternity to do things together that the Lord has ordained for us. So I just want to encourage you that- It's exciting. Yes, it's exciting.
And the Lord wants you to be comforted. I think we have maybe told this story before. Pastor Tony Kemp was telling us in one of his messages that there was a lady that had just lost her husband and they were very, very, very close. And one day the Lord allowed her to go into heaven and she saw him worshiping before the throne. And he sensed that she was there and he turned around and he gave her a hug, but it wasn't a husband and wife hug. It was more like a brother, sister hug.
And then he smiled and then he turned around and went back to worshiping. And she came back and the Lord said, he has a new life and you need to get one too. Wow. So, you know, God has ways of helping us to make adjustments, but he's so kind to get us as far as we can get. He's just kind. And as people have these experiences when they get close to crossing over, it is one more sign to us of how real heaven is, how real the spirit realm is.
And that all of this stuff that we've been talking about as Christians, as Bible believers, that it's the real thing. It's the real thing. Yes, amen. Amen. That's our comfort. Absolutely. That's our peace. Absolutely. Mine both got in. Amen, amen. That's my peace. Amen. Do you want to pray for people?
Yeah. So Father, for those who are listening in and hearing us talk about supernatural things, Father, I ask that you just open their heart that they can receive this and not think it's just something we've made up. And Lord, it's so real. And Lord, the closer we get to you, the more we see things like this. Yes. And Lord, the way we get closer to you is just by allowing you to cleanse our heart. Yes. To cleanse our lives, to cleanse our minds.
The more that we just come to you and say, God, I'm hurting, I'm wounded. I need you to help me. Show me where I'm wrong. Show me what I need to do to make a change. Yes. Tell me what I need to say. Yes. Tell me when to say it and who to say it to. Yes. We need to make reconciliation with the people that we have differences with. Not just for heaven. People, you need to know that we need it here now.
If you have depression, oppression, use drugs for comfort, and you have a very unhappy life, it's mostly because we are on overload with hurts and wounds and bitterness and unforgiveness and doubt and unbelief. And the Bible has answers to all of that. Jesus is your healer. He's the one that will restore you back to health again.
He's the one that can take that pain that throbs in your heart, in your mind, that what you think about when you go to bed at night or what you have nightmares about or what's on your mind constantly. And it may be just because you need to make it right with somebody and you're just hurting because you haven't. I'm asking you to just take a step of faith. Put your flesh under your feet and also don't have to be right about everything. You can be wrong just like everybody else.
If you will humble yourself and allow the Lord to bring a healing or to even bring conviction in your heart, to go and make peace with someone that you have audit, that you both can live in peace. Amen. That's what my sister and I did at the last minute before she passed over. And I have a peace with her. Thank you, Father. And she had a peace with me and even saw my husband who had passed before her. She made it in. Thank you, Lord. We always had a little question, Lord. She lived a wild life.
She had great woundings and she lived a life of rebellion for so long. But Lord, you brought her in at the last minute and I thank you for it. She received you six weeks before she passed. Thank you, God, that you were faithful to answer my prayers. Yes, Lord, thank you, thank you, thank you. And so Father, I just thank you for the peace that she had, for the security that she had, and for the peace and security that I have, Lord. Thank you, Father.
You can have the same experience if you'll make things right with whoever you have a difference with. Thank you, Lord. And so we just pray and suggest. Great grace. Just step out and try that. Yes. And see what happens. Yes. Yes. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. If you enjoyed today's podcast, please subscribe, rate, and review this podcast on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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