many right now are diagnosing themselves as depressed or oppressed or sad or discouraged or whatever. Yeah. Well, if in reality you're just hungry, you've misdiagnosed yourself. So then you pursue your cure, your answer other places. But let me, let me say to you that are all you who are listening, I want to diagnose you right now. Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory has made you hungry for him. God promises in Joel 2 28 to pour out his spirit on all humanity.
Welcome to global outpouring where we contend for that promise outpouring. We equipped for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip bus and I'm Sharon bus. Welcome to the podcast today. We have with us very, very dear friends of many years, pastors, Dan and Marty Duke from Jacksonville, Florida, and many, many places in the earth. And we're going to talk about things that are so, so important as we are moving into the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
That's increasing in the earth right now. And we're going to learn from the things they have learned and what they're seeing for the future. Thanks so much for joining us today. We're so glad that you're with us. You are really going to be blessed by this podcast. But before we get started, we just want to encourage you, if you haven't already done so, to please go to our website and sign up for the email list.
There's a subscribe button there. Just go to globaloutpouring.net and you can find all kinds of wonderful things that are there. And you'll really be able to grow from the things that you find there in our bookstore and our blogs and in our YouTube channel and our Facebook page, just avail yourself of these things. So pastor Dan and pastor Marty, thank you so much for joining us today. What a pleasure it is. Thanks for the opportunity. You know, we go back quite a number of years.
Philip and I were engaged in your church and we met you. I at least met you long before that. And I don't want to take time with the past. I want to talk about what God has done in your lives and how he has taken you. You pastored for a number of years. You went to the mission field. And then what happened? Well, we went to the mission field. We had been in, I guess, 50 different countries and we fell in love with Brazil and we began to devote all of our time and attention to that nation.
And we had been working there for about 10 years when God interrupted our lives. Yes, and then what happened? We had the rare opportunity to be in revival meetings for weeks and saturate and soak in the presence. And it literally changed the whole trajectory of our ministry, of our lives. We were so hungry before that. And we still are hungry, but we were also in such need of a renewal. And God gave us that because we had worked hard on the mission field and it was glorious.
We had seen many things. But I would have to say when you said we were a missionary, then what happened? That was the thing that happened that changed everything. That's what I was fishing for. Yes, I know. Pastor Dan, what's your take on that? Well, the most significant thing that happened was I learned, actually I witnessed, and by what I witnessed I learned, that it's possible to impart what you preach.
Amen. That preaching alone, perhaps that's good, I mean, we're commanded to preach the Word. But if nothing is actually imparted, if it's only words, if it's only doctrine, if it's only theology, if it's only opinion, it doesn't really accomplish anything. So we were privileged to encounter a man who could impart what he preached. And I know that's simple to say, but for me it was life-changing. That same man made a comment just in passing in his preaching.
And this was shocking to me in the simplicity. Actually, I was a little embarrassed. And this is what he said. He said that whatever Jesus can do in you determines what he can do through you. That if Jesus can touch you, he can touch others through your life. And that again is something very, very simple, almost embarrassingly so. But that was my prayer. That was my hope.
At the point I'm describing to you, Martin and I had been 20 years of ministry in many different nations, hundreds of gospel meetings, hundreds of them. And I had had years of seminary. I'd never heard anything that profound and that simple. That if Jesus could touch me, he could touch the nations through my life. Amen. If he can touch me.
And I don't need to elaborate and take a lot of time with this, but then the implication was, at least the way I interpret it was, that there are many people in churches, some their whole life, sit in churches their whole life, but they're untouchable. And it doesn't mean that he's incapable of touching them. It means they simply have not yielded themselves or see a value in a fresh touch of the Holy Spirit. Right. And I believe that's true. I often talk about being hungry.
And for many years, that would be the way I would introduce a message or start speaking. I would kind of say, well, are you hungry? Are you hungry tonight? And of course, that's popular, to be hungry for God. And it would always get a rousing response. My next question, my second question was, well, can he touch you? You know, you get a different response. So Jesus wants to touch your life. If I'm making a point, that's my point. He wants to touch you. Are you touchable? That's a question.
Let's talk about what it means to be touchable. Please, talk about it. Talk about it. I'll yield to my wife, Marty. What does it mean to be touchable? To be touchable? I think it means that you're able to yield. When His presence comes to me, my job is to drink it in, yield to it. Let the presence of God come into me, fill me to a greater degree, a greater measure, and let His presence do His work in me. The Holy Spirit wants to come and change me and enlarge my heart.
I just need to yield to that. I don't know how you explain how you yield. But to me, if I'm worshiping, I'm doing more than singing a song. I am drinking His presence into my life and totally yielding to the Holy Spirit. And whether that looks fancy or not, I don't really care. I just want Him. I just want Him to come into me. So I think that's the desperation that we have to have. That's hunger. And then you can't just close your heart and, you know, oh, good, God's in the room.
Well, it's not enough for Him to be in the room. He needs to come fill me with His presence. So whatever that looks like, it looks different to different people. Drink it in, breathe it in, yield. You are the air I breathe. I'm going to breathe you in. Exactly. Exactly. And I think that same revivalist said, can you drink enough to be filled? Can you drink enough to overflow upon your neighbor? Can you drink enough to overflow upon your region? Can you drink enough to overflow on your state?
What about a nation? So we have it all wrong many times. We don't understand how important we are as carriers of the glory and of the presence. We have to carry that. That's right. Marty said it. You know, there's an old Pentecostal saying that says, it's better felt than tellt. Some things are only by revelation. But let me introduce this thought to you. Everyone that we encounter, virtually, the Christians, if we ask them, are you hungry? I mean, are you hungry for God?
The answer is always yes, virtually every time is yes. But consider this. Why are you hungry? What's the source? Where does your hunger originate? Does a spiritual hunger originate with you? Can I produce a hunger for God? Well, those who are listening, that's a question for you. You'll have to answer that for yourself. But I'll give you my answer. In my life, I've proven that I hunger as a natural man, and I hunger for everything other than Jesus. Come on, somebody. Come on. Let's get honest.
Let's get honest. And that also always gets a little response, like we have here. No, I tell you, this is the conclusion, Phil, that I've arrived at. That my hunger does not originate with me. That the hunger that grips my life is a manifestation of the grace of God, and it is, in fact, His invitation to pursue Him. Beautiful. How have I arrived at that? Well, because of what Jesus said, no man can come to the Son unless the Father draws him.
So as my hunger grips my life, I disavow myself of any part in that, of creating that hunger. I don't give myself any credit that I have any hunger for God except what He initiates in my life. The grace of God is so misunderstood. Wow. You know, I heard for so many years that the grace of God is God's unmerited favor. Right. Well, and perhaps it is, but that's not the definition. That's not even a Bible definition.
The Bible definition of the grace of God is God's divine influence influencing your life in a certain direction. Beautiful. No man can come to the Son except the Father influences him. So that divine influence is translated into a hunger. So He makes you hungry. He starts the process, okay? In everything in grace, everything in God, He starts the process. Right. So He would like to make you hungry so He can respond to you. Beautiful.
Yeah. Hunger is, well, there's several things you know, we all know, that know the Bible. We know there are several things the Bible says specifically that He responds to. Faith, He responds to faith. He responds to joy. He responds to love. There's a list of things. Yeah. But chiefly, the point is if by His grace He creates a hunger, initiates a hunger in your heart for Him, He can then respond to you, okay? So He starts the process by making you hungry so He can respond to you.
And what does He want to do? He wants to save you. But He doesn't save you to save you. Right. He saves you to fill you. Beautiful. Praise God. He doesn't fill you to fill you. He fills you so He can use you. Beautiful. But He doesn't use you just to use you. Yeah, come on. He's not raising servants. He's raising sons and daughters. Amen. But He uses you for His glory. Amen. Amen. So He saves you for His glory and it starts with the hunger. Beautiful. So hunger is important, but it's not enough.
It's not enough. I don't know how any of you here in the studio might be, but when I get hungry, I go looking for food. Yeah, there you go. Come on. Come on. So when I get thirsty, I go looking for a drink. I don't just do nothing. I hit the refrigerator or hit down to McDonald's or whatever. But that's my point. And I don't want to belabor the point or take too much time.
But the point is the way I discern what the Spirit of God is doing and is releasing is by discerning what people are hungry for. Because if I believe He made them hungry, then He made them hungry for something. That's good. And what we're seeing, what I'm seeing is people are not hungry for religion. True. Who would want that? They're not hungry for church membership. They're not hungry now to hear and just hear another sermon and go home the same way they came. Come on.
So I'm giving you, I'm open for correction here. No correction at all. So what are people hungry for? They're hungry for Him. Exactly. Yes. Because only He can satisfy. That's right. So what's happening in the nations today? What's happening in Brazil? I'm not so sure about the U.S. because Marty and I haven't spent much time in the U.S. Really, our whole ministry has been international.
But all of our experience in the nation of Brazil in particular, we've been through been there through several distinct, powerful national moves of God. But they always begin with someone who's hungry. Amen. Because He can respond. Amen. Amen. Sometimes that ends up being a divine dissatisfaction with where you're at. Yes. You know, I like, like I'm feeling that myself. Yes. This dissatisfaction of, okay, I want to be someplace that I'm not. I want to be, you know.
I want to have something I don't. Yeah, that's it. There's more. Where's the more? Where am I going to find it? I've got to saturate. And don't even know what it is. Right. Right. You know, one final thing here about any medical doctor anywhere in the world would tell a patient, don't diagnose yourself. Oh, this is good. Right. Yes. They would all, they will tell you that.
Don't diagnose yourself because 99% of the time, if you diagnose your own infirmity, you're going to take the wrong medicine or the wrong cure. And that could be fatal even. Uh huh. So, and Sharon, you brought this up, made me think about this. Many right now are diagnosing themselves as depressed. Oh, come on. Yes. Or oppressed or sad or discouraged or whatever. Yeah. Well, if in reality you're just hungry, you've misdiagnosed yourself. That's good.
So then you pursue your cure, your answer other places. But let me say to you that are all you who are listening, I want to diagnose you right now. Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory has made you hungry for him. Amen. You are not depressed. Well, you may be. You may be. You may be. But why? Because you're not satisfied. Why? Because you're not fed. Why? Because you've not been hungry. Okay, well, Jesus is making you hungry. That's one thing this broadcast will do.
Every place it goes, it'll make people hungry. Amen. Amen. And so that whole point that you brought up, Sharon, about it. First, you have the manifestation of dissatisfaction. And that's where we can get our eyes in the wrong place. Because we look at the lack instead of the fullness. Okay. And so if our eyes are focused on, oh, man, because I've been there many times, you know, looking at the lack instead of looking forward like Jesus endured the cross, despising the shame. Why?
Because his eyes were on the prize on the other side, the joy that was set before him. And so don't misinterpret your dissatisfaction as a huge negative. Right. Don't just begin to press in to he who is the only one that can satisfy us. And he will reveal, you know, there's more. That's the whole thing. We can't just get a portion and live in that portion. That's how so many denominations were formed throughout history, right? Very true.
They received a fresh portion, but then they never went beyond that. And so they became satisfied in that and became religious in that. Yeah, that's true. And by the grace of God, what we're talking about, God is stirring us up again, you know, because he's about to release something fresh. He already is releasing it. We've seen the evidence of that. Yeah. But even with a drop, I'm not going to be satisfied with the drop.
I want to go back to what I made reference to that I embraced way back in the 90s when he began to freshly pour out on my life because I can remember my dissatisfaction. I'd say, Lord, I love what I've seen. I've been to so many nations and it's been wonderful. And I've seen the blind eyes open and the deaf ears open and every dead raised. I mean, we saw those with our own eyes, but I'm like, there's got to be more. What about me? What about me, Marty?
Not the multitudes, but I'm hungry for something more that I'm not seeing. And he was so faithful. He said, you just hold on because you're praying into this and you're going to receive something fresh. And I did. And I remember that whole concept. And first of all, I have to say that God, when he opens a door, there's a way to go through the open door and it's sweet low. As low as you can go through that door.
As a matter of fact, he gave me a mini vision one time about the door to the place called Moore and kind of came out in a poem, but it was, I saw this door and through the door, I saw this great light and it's big space was beyond the door, but the door was very low. And I perceived I had to crawl in on my face. And then he showed me the whole principle of getting from where you are, leaving behind where you are and going through the door to the place called Moore. It required humility.
We enter in weakness to every new phase of God, but that whole principle of how much are you willing to drink of his process? I think many get caught in a pattern. They think, okay, we'll spend, get up an hour, spend an hour with the Lord and the word or this or that, but we depend on the pattern. And it's not a pattern that makes you hungry though. It's just like being available all the time, not just in your morning devotions or whatever.
It's just like, Paul says, keeping your mind on, and Philippians, keeping your mind on what's, what's, whoever is lovely, what's ever is true whatsoever is. And we, I thought that's the key to renewed mind, right? And that one verse, you know, but we don't, we kind of fall short of that. At least I do. And that's why the word is so important to us. It is the light on our path and he guides us through these principles to go from glory to glory. And I think that's what we're all feeling.
Glory to glory. There's a new release of glory coming on the earth. I believe it with all my heart. His presence is so strong. I mean, just this morning we spent, you know, some time deep, deep in his presence and every time it just overwhelms me and makes me realize I've got to drink more. I've got, because I've got to have more capacity. I need more capacity. And then of course we can't damn up what he puts in us. It needs to flow out, you know. And we have to realize that he is limitless.
Yes. And he is, he is working in us to expand us so that we can, we can process, we can let more flow through us. Yes. You know, there's an, there's an increase. It's a continual increase that we, that we have to anticipate from him and it's from him. And the grace is there to stretch. Yes. That's like the prayer. I believe that I can't remember where it is, but that you would be filled with all the fullness. Yes. Of Christ, of God in Christ Jesus. So there's, look at how much more we need.
Right. And he's limitless. So we have to, we have to get it, get it into our heads that our spirits are limitless. Right. And our bodies may have limitations, but I think the more we yield to the spirit, even our bodies will catch up. That's a good thought to soar on. Yeah. Yeah. In a particular time in my life, ministry, Marty's in mind, which we've already described a 20 years of ministry and many, many, many nations and, and, um, was hungry.
So we encountered this gentleman and, and, and as I, as I, or we reflect back and constantly men mentioned a stranger, another man, God uses men, but we don't look to men. Uh, the point is when you're hungry, when he makes you hungry, you acknowledge that you're hungry. You, and you admit, acknowledge that what you're feeling is his invitation. It's his, he is calling you to his, to the table. You're hungry, but you can't describe what you're hungry for because you've not tasted it yet.
Oh, that's good. And, but when you taste it, you know, what did, what did the apostle say? This is that. Yes. Okay. And this, this man, this preacher kept saying, you've got, you've got to be, boom, be more hungry, be more hungry. And I got so tired and aggravated with him because I just wanted to scream, well, I am hungry and he'd say it again. You got to be more hungry. You got to be more hungry. And that was frustrating to me because I didn't know how to be more hungry.
And he said, and all you have to do is yield, yield, yield. And man, I got sick of him hearing him saying yield. And, but I kept going to the meetings and, and got more hungry. But I came to a place where I just wanted to just interrupt him and say, man, I don't know how to yield. And, and, and right there, I said it out of, out of a frustration. I don't know how to yield. And I thought, that's my problem. I don't know how to yield. How do I yield?
And the Lord spoke to me and he said, just yield. Use the same word to define it. I said, I said, but I don't, I'm trying. He said, that's your problem. You never received more from, he said, you never received more from me by trying harder. You cannot say it again. You can, you never received more from me by trying harder. You received more by yielding more. I hope this helps somebody. Yes. Because I, I, what I yield, what I did, I yielded.
But what I meant, but what I understood, it meant surrender. Stop the fight. I didn't know I was fighting. I didn't know I was resisting because I had made it a mental cerebral thing, you know, or something that I had to do. Now what I'm saying to you and to the multitudes that'll hear this is, it's a mystery. It's a mystery, but you can do it. You can do it. Jesus is who calls you will give you grace, but stop the fight. Okay. Stop looking at people, go to Jesus and just be honest with him.
Lord, I'm yielding. I'm yielding. I'm surrendering. If there was, if my trying harder would get more, I'd have more, but my trying harder is not working. Right. My sacrifices are not producing what's, what's happening. Once you come to that realization, that self realization, and basically you just, I'm done. Jesus yielded and he gave up the ghost. It's finished. Yeah. Yeah. You can have that. I can't give it to you, but you can have it.
So you take what's being said today to heart, talk to Jesus about it. He's totally on your side. He's not pressing you. He's not against you. He's for you. He loves you. Maybe you just need to surrender. Amen. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Would you pray for our listeners? Lord Jesus, we know who you are. We know what you do. We know what you give. You give yourself, you give life, you give righteousness, peace, joy. And those are the things that we are truly hungry for.
So let us, Lord, those who are listening, let them lay aside all the things that they think the way it should be, the way they've heard is going to be. All of that, let's lay all of that aside and bow the knee of our heart to the Lord Jesus and say this, Lord Jesus, you have made me hungry. I renounce any sense of anything that I've done to create a hunger. It's all from you. So Lord, I yield to you right now and I submit to the hunger that you put in my heart to do its work.
I praise you all, all for your glory, but I can't do it. I quit trying right now. I'm not trying anymore. I'm believing that you have made me hungry, that you have called me to your table where there's bread and wine and everlasting life. So Lord, I lay down all the fight and I say, Lord, here I am in Jesus' name.
Amen. Amen. As a footnote to what we've been talking about and after that prayer, during the prayer, John mentioned righteousness, peace and joy, that that's what the Lord wants to provide for us. And I was just thinking on the words of Jesus that it is the Father's good pleasure to give us the kingdom. What is the kingdom? Righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. That is the kingdom of God and it's within us. He is within us. His kingdom is being built within us.
So I just had to share that because that's contrary to what many people are eating today with depression and anxiety and so many things that they're thinking they have to have in their lives. No, it is the Father's good pleasure to give you through Jesus the kingdom of God, righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. Amen. The oil of gladness. Yes. Amen. If you enjoyed today's podcast, please subscribe, rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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