Hi, welcome back to give us Mark Neive, I'm Megan, and we're depressed. We got the post show blues guys. It was amazing. I cried hard, she did. Neive looked at me at one point, just bawling my eyes out because you were like you were like next me, singing along, having a good time. And then then like next minute I looked out for actually you were like, is this so beautiful? It was like a full like circle moment for you or something. You're just like, oh
my god, I can't believe I'm here. Yeah, it was that. And then they were singing last Hope as well, so I could not. I was so shocked. She sang that to be perfectly honest, really yeah, it's like a good song. But I just I love the song. But I just was like, oh no, she probably wouldn't play it. Yeah, no, I know, but it. Yeah. My own bone to pick is that out of the UK and Europe tour, Dublin is the only city that didn't. It's the only city that didn't get all I wanted.
Thank you fucking Dublin is because of bullshit technical issues. Those technical issues at the start, and it like derailed it for a few minutes, and so I think they didn't have time to perform it. I don't know, because they just were like because we booed hey at one point, well not we Apparently she got booed because she meant she had a slip of the tongue and said that Ireland was part of the UK, and maybe she was like, you know what, fuck y'all. However, we did have a school
choir moment when she sang the Crimeries. Oh my god, it was absolutely incredible because what it was it was like a mixture of old paramour fans that were there form misery business and things like that, and the new fans and but all of us share are obviously obvious not obviously, yes, of course. So when she whipped out the acoustic atar and started just singing dreams, everybody was singing it back to her. I have to say that was like a moment where it's like, ah, yeah, this is what it's like
to be Irish. Yeah, like this is this is this is what it is like. Yeah, it was a concert. Was amazing, Yes, won't lie though, I'm I was so mad the next night when they released the next day they like had released the setlist, the setlist was supposed to be, and all I wanted was on there. I was like, fucking shitting me, are you fucking having right now? Miss Williams. If you're nasty, i am nasty. I'm bitter nasty because he didn't play Oh My
Wife. But it was incredible and then Zach did some half noise stuff. But yeah, ten out of ten. If you ever have the opportunity to go and see Power More Alive, even if you don't really like their music, it's kind of just a vibe to be there. I have to say, like out of the not all too many, but several concerts I've been to over the years, she was up there like they were the band and everything. They were up there with one of the greatests that I've seen.
Yeah, their energy is just insane and they keep going for the whole show, show, the interaction with the crowd. Yes, their energy and everything like and even like how they set For me, it's how they sound like. It is their energy as well, but how they sound like. If they don't sound the same, it's wrong. Oh my god. The music itself, obviously on part always sounds so good. But her vocals for how much she jumps around the stage. Yeah, I don't understand how she can
do it. Honestly, Kings of Leon would be my faith so far, just because my favor in general, but like in live but I have to say she like not just her, but the like they put on a great show. They put on a good competition show. Like I was like, damn, anyway, we've literally been talking about them for five minutes, so so we'll just jimp ready. In last week, you heard about part two
of Good Old Peter. Yeah, I talked about Peter Sutcliffe and I went into in the first episode of this three part I went into like his growing up life and kind of mentioned his like first few attacks, and then in the second part, I went heavily into his attacks and that's when he started murdering women, mostly sex workers. And I also talked about how the media really heavily focused on it being sex workers, like it was like, oh, the media was like no sex workers, like oh, it's nothing.
Now it's nothing. And then I also mentioned just briefly about how the police at this time that we're looking after this case, where'd doing such a great job. They had like five million different sex dedicated to finding Peter Sutcliffe literally like pretty much in every town that he attacked, like headquarters would be set up to find the Yorkshire Ripper. And you're like, yeah, or you could just all combine to one m and then there's no lack of communication or
anything like that. That would be great. That would be fucking fantastic. It's actually, um, I believe not too long ago, like only a couple of years ago, the police, like in the Yorkshire area apologized for the handling of this case. I'm sure that wasn't easy to admit. They were like, yeah, he could have been better. Whoopsie, daisies are bad. At least nobody got her. Oh wait, never mind, at least at least it was only it was only sex workers. You guys,
it's fine, clarification, We don't think like that. No, that was still smocking the police. Um. And then I also just talked about how the police were now trying to set up like rewards for anybody that had information on who they thought the Yorkshire Ripper was, and I left off with how the police were beginning to receive letters from Jack the Ripper. But side note, this is not Peter Sutcliff. This is just another sickle. He was like trying to take credit or some shit. Yeah, fuck off. So
the first letter was sent to the police in March nineteen seventy eight. The letter talked about how he was sorry for killing Jane McDonald. She was the sixteen year old girl that Peter had quote miss stuck for a sex worker. Yes, yea. So he talked about how he was sorry for killing her and how he was only killing sex workers. He then signed this letter Jack the Ripper and as I said, this is not sent by Peter Sutcliffe. And Peter later on, when he's caught, it's like, I said,
none of the like, none of these are me. No, that wasn't me. The murders, yeah, noh know. He when I say, he says none of it was me. He means the letters. He knows he's caught on the murder part. He's like, that was me. But the letters, now that's some weirdough. You guys might want to look into that and there's some real sickos out there. Days later, the same person
wrote a similar letter to the Daily Mail. In this letter, he told them to quote warn them whores, oh about how he was planning to strike again, once again, the letter was signed Jack the Ripper, and once again Peter didn't write this. Both letters mentioned a murder that took place in nineteen seventy five, and this led the police to start investigating it. However,
this murder was not committed by Peter Sutcliffe. So this letter starts talking about and this the two letters start talking about a murder that took place in nineteen seventy five, just before Peter started murdering, and it like takes place
in like a completely different part of Yorkshire. Right, Peter Suckcliffe did not commit this murder, and I'm pretty sure they have found who did commit this murder, but at this stage they have not, Okay, And so the Yorkshire Ripper Like, so they're receiving letters and they are assuming that it's from the Yorkshire Ripper because I mean, why wouldn't you, in their defense,
because you signed it as fucking Jack. Yeah. But so the reason why he was called the Yorkshire Ripper is because he was killing, like, he was killing sex workers like Jack the Ripper, right, Okay, so that's why they were like, oh, well, it's obviously the same guy who's trying to recreate Jack the Ripper. I know that in this scenario it wasn't actually the murderer, but like son of Sam, BTK, what's with the letters? Even the X Man of New Orleans he'd done a letter as well.
His letter though, was that was to Tree. I'm gonna hang that up on my wall. He's hurt. Yeah, I don't know. And they do later find out who writes these letters, like he doesn't really hot, Like he's just like, yeah, it's just it's just some old weep. Yeah, it's just like I thought it would be funny. People don't do if your evenings people are being murdered, and you're like, wouldn't it be funny to send the investigation in a completely wrong direction? I mean,
what else do you do and on your Friday nights? Honestly, Like police are now investigating this murder, like obviously this murder should be investigated, but they're now linking it to the Yorkshire Ripper and looking at it. Yeah, they're now looking at it as if it's a Yorkshire Ripper killing when it's not, and it needs a different set of eyes, like it needs someone for not thin thin the Yorkshire Ripper, Like that's so damaging, so for literally,
just like the way that this person was killed. Do you know if it was at all similar? I think it was. I think it was somewhat similar. And from what I can remember, I should have wrote notes on it, and I didn't because I was like, I'll remember that, and because I think, yeah, because that's what I do. M But yeah, I think it was somewhat similar. But it so. Peter Southcliffe didn't start attacking women until nineteen seventy five. And the way he was doing
it, he was doing it in specific areas. There's only like a hand like, there's only like two or three times that he leaves Yorkshire to go to Manchester, and this murder took place in a completely different part of Yorkshire. And so it's like, I think, if you were to look at it, you would say, no, this isn't a Yorkshire ripper killing. But the police were just because they got the letter the right O, well
than it has to be. So before they couldn't connect cases together like at all, and now they're just connecting random cases together because some fool rode in. Yeah. Oh he does more than write in. He leaves a tape like a vote, an audio tape. Okay, Then, on May sixteenth, nineteen seventy eight, Peter came across forty year old Via Millward Vera was waiting on a right their client, as she needed some money, as a lot of them did and there's a lot of us still do. Peter pulled
up and asked if she was in business, and Via agreed. Peter then pulled up to a quiet spot beside the Manchester Royal Infirmary, which is a hospital. He then suggested they get in the back of the car, and while Via wasn't looking, he hit her over the head with his hammer. He then dragged VIA's body out of sight and began slashing her torso with a knife. He then turned Via on her back and began stabbing her in the same spot repeatedly in her back. Peter then left her body in a pile
of rubbish. The next morning, two men arrived to do grounds work for the Royal Infirmary. When they saw what they thought was a dummy at first, because obviously it's a hospital. They were like, they thought like it was like it's teaching yeah, yeah, like you know, for like teaching CPO or something like that. As they got closer, they realized that it was indeed a corpse, and they called nine one one. Can I just say the unfortunate irony of being murdered at a hospital, like that's horrible?
Could you imagine her heart? Like she's like he just if one doctor hears me, if yeah, if anyone, and then like if a nurse hears me, if someone hears me, like I'm at the hospital, like I'm here. M police knew right away that it was a ripper killing. They found bootprints and care tracks. A man also came forward and said that the night of the murder, around the time of death, he was bringing his son into a and E and he thought he heard someone scream for help.
Three times he stopped to listen, but he didn't hear anything, and he put it down to stress because he was like run in with his child. And to be fair to the man, like if you're the sick child in your arms, that like requires any Yeah, you're gonna be like, did I hear someone scream for help? And also you are at a hospital where people are screaming, Yeah, so you're kind of would be more inclined to
be like I have to get my son in here. Yeah, just brush it off and I know it sounds bad, but you're gonna be like, my child is more important right now. M Like, so you don't think about it. Like at a hospital, you're thinking like, oh, they're probably being looked after, you know, yeah exactly. Police questioned Peter again in August nineteen seventy eight about his car and in regards to the tire tracks
that they found at the scene of the Royal Infirmary. Peter said that it was the only time his tire tracks were near a scene because he was on his way to and from work, Like he was like, oh, I was just to and from work, and that's probably like how my tire tracks might be there. He also denied using the service of sex workers because he was happily married. Well, did he use the service of sex workers if he was impotent? Like I fully am believing that he is impotent. Yeah,
they never have any children or anything like that. So it's a very real possibility. And police are like, okay, reasonable answer to me. COO cool, see you at next time, probably, Peter, Oh you're happily married. Yeah, of course. Men never cheap use sex workers ever, there's no need for them. They just all keep popping up for no apparent reason unheard of. Peter then sold his car and he bought a black car, so he was driving I believe a white car at this time.
Yeah, this is his third car now, so this is his third care and his mother then passed away in November nineteen seventy eight. People said that Peter's attitude changed and he became more rude and more angry once his mother died.
Then police received a third letter from quote unquote Jack the Ripper, almost a year after the first one, in March nineteen seventy nine, and again this was not written by Peter. On April fourth, nineteen seventy nine, Peter was out drinking with Trevor Birdsall, and after dropping Trevor home, he went back out looking for a victim. Peter saw nineteen year old Josephine Whittaker, who was walking home from her grandparents' house. Peter stopped Josephine and asked
if she had the right time and if she had fire to walk. While Josephine checked the time, Peter hit her over the head with his hammer. It's interesting that this time he's not even asking like are you in? As he likes to say, business, business, yeah, he's like, not even pretending anymore. So this sweet young girl she went to visit her grandmother and her grandfather because she was like this sweet little girl, like she was nineteen, do you know what I mean. She's a sweet, sweet girl.
She wants to go see them. She missed them, spend time with them. And then I got late and she was like, oh, I better go home. And he just seen her walking along this road and was like, among a sex worker. Of course, always a sex worker would be out at night. Then what are you doing at at night, Peter? If you don't use their services and you're not a sex worker, you should be cuddled up at home in bed with your wife like a good Christian man. So then he asks her like what He's like, oh, do
you have the right time? And then he's like do you have fair to walk? And then she like looks down to check her watch and he does hits her. Once she fell and was no longer conscious, Peter dragged Josephine about thirty feet out of you. He then began to stab her with a
screwdriver he had sharpened. He had sharpened the screwdriver because I remember him using it before and I remember thinking, oh, that takes a bit more effort than I You know, he like sharpened this screwdriver for the purpose of stabbing somebody with it. Brilliant diy diy. He proceeded to stab her twenty five times all over her body, including her vagina. He then dragged her body to the middle of the field. The next morning, a woman waiting on
a bus waiting on a bust at a stop spotted Josephine's body. She ran to the bus stop to call nine one. A bus driver also reported the scene as he wasn't sure what he saw, but he knew it was something bad as he was like driving past. As police arrived at the scene, Josephine's thirteen year old brother was cycling by to deliver newspapers again with the kids, and he saw a shoe on the sidewalk. He knew the shoe and he ran home to tell his parents what he saw. That's when they realized
that Josephine had never come home. They immediately rang the police for information. Police didn't know whether to link Josephine's murder with the rippers or not, because she wasn't a sex worker and he's only killing sex workers, but he has already killed other women who are not sex workers, who have been deemed quote unquote innocent. And again I have to say it, how many women are
being mutilated in Yorkshire that they are not connecting? This wild to be perfectly honest, because I feel like it's a very specific thing that he's doing as well. Do you know, like he's hitting them with a hammer and then he's stabbing them with some type of sharp object. Yeah, Like how many women are being attacked with a hammer and being stabbed? Like? How why is that something that you're not linking that it's so regular? What? Yeah,
I don't get it. The police were focused on the letters that they had been receiving. They were kind of like banking on the letters to tell them who the ripper was. But that was never going to be the case because it is not the ripper that is writing them. It's not the Zodiac et. It's like, break this and I'll tell you who I am. I must know who the Zodiac killer is. It's like my life's mission. If I die before I know who he is, I'll be so pissed and
I will haunt him. Didn't they crack the code a little? While ago they cracked one. How many other left, you know, like three or something. Christ they because they reckon, They reckon. It's going to take like years to decode them all. In June nineteen seven nine, police received an audio tape from someone claiming to be the ripper. However, again it's not Peter. The tape said quote, I'm Jack. I still, I still, I'm Jack. I see you still have no luck catching me.
I have the greatest respect for you. George. George is the lead investigator at this time. The lead investigator change changes a few times, but currently it is George. Okay, but lord, you are no nearer to catching me now than four years ago when I started. I reckon. Your boys are letting you down. George. You can't be much good, can you. The only time they came near me was in Chapeltown when I was disturbed, and it was a uniform copper, not a detective. I warned you
in March i'd strike again. Sorry it wasn't Bradford. I did promise you that, but I couldn't get there. I'm not quite sure when I'll strike again, but definitely sometime this year, maybe September or October even sooner if I can get the chance. I'm not sure where. Maybe maybe Manchester. I like it there. There is plenty of them knocking about. They never learned, do they, George. I bet you warned them, but they never listen. At the rate I'm going, I should be in the book
of records. I think it's eleven up to now, isn't it. I'll keep on going for quite a while yet, I can't see myself being nicked just yet. Even if you do get near, I'll probably talk myself first. Well, it's been nice chatting to you, George, yours Jack the ripper. I'm very curious about it. I was interrupted by a uniformed copper
because wasn't Peter interrupted before he was calling a bush? He was, but he see, here's the hilarious thing the police have like like the press knew about that, Like all of what he says is something that is so easily gathered by the press, Like the press knew he was interrupted because she was still alive, and like so the media are interviewing he's he's interrupted when he wasn't in the bush. The crop just found him in the bush. He hadn't attacked anybody yet. Oh, that was years ago. No, he
was He's been interrupted like several times. There was one time he was den an alleyway and someone turned on their headlights. M there was like there's been several times that he's like almost been caught, and so like when that happens, the media are then interviewing like who who caught Like who stopped him? Do you know what I mean? And so it's like, oh, yeah, it's easy to assume that like at one stage or another policeman almost caught
him. So this person writing the letters is just like making educated guesses based on what they've read in the media, saying like I'll probably attack again in September or October. It's a complete another like guess hmm, do you know? And then but then he covers himself by being like maybe soon or if I can get the chance, yeah, and then he's like might go to Manchester if I can get up there, do you know, Like it's like
if I can, I told you before i'd attack him. So like the last letter they got, it was like, oh, I'm going to attack him Bradford, but then he the actual like Peter then he didn't attack him in Bradford. So he's like, oh, I couldn't get up there, and that's why I didn't attack Bradford. No, you didn't attack in Bradford because he didn't attack in Bradford because he didn't know you told the police that's
where he was going to attack. Yeah, fucking hell. That guy watching the news seeing that the most recent attack was in New Yorkshire, like, fuck, how am I going to cover this one up? She's like, oh I couldn't get there, oh my flat tires, or just a suggestion, you just don't send any more letters. Yeah, you could have stopped it here. You could have stopped it here, bib, Like, honestly, what are you doing. Let's take a quick add break before we go
any further and welcome back. A few weeks after receiving the letters, police released clips of the audio and partial paragraphs of the letters to the public. They were hopeful that someone would recognize either the manner of speaking, the voice,
or even the handwriting of the letters. Wait, so at this stage, sorry, at this stage the audio has been said, right, Yeah, so police have letters and audio, and so they release snippets of the audio, and they release paragraphs of the letters to the press of like for the press to like put out and they're hoping that some one either recognizes the accent, the voice or the manner of speaking, and then that they're also
hoping that someone recognizes the handwriting or you know, like something something. The accent on the audio was that of the Jordi accent. Jordi so sure. Why? Oh my god. I used to have such a love hate relationship with that show. Yeah. Same. It was good when it was like brand new and before they like were getting into VIP parts of the club and stuff. The first like few seasons were so good and then they got like
more and more famous and it became more and more shit. Yeah, it's like it gets more scripted because they had to keep the drama in the show. Then it also made me really upset for Charlotte because she had an ef topic pregnancy and he was just like I found myself a girlfriend. Yeah, my heart breaks for Charlotte. She's pregnant. She's not pregnant now, Holly is Holly is Charlotte's had her baby. O. I'm so happy for her.
I know. Yeah. I literally was like I won't lie. I was like, oh my god, because like I was like, she like deserves this. Yeah, yes, So the accent on the audiotape is that of someone from like Newcastle, Like it's like a Geordy accent. So they're like, oh, that means that the killer is northern. However it's not Peter Sultcliffe on the audio, and Peter Sultcliffe does not have a Geordy accent.
Wheel wheel. Then, on September first, nineteen seventy nine, Peter was looking for a victim and that's when he saw twenty year old Barbara Leach. Barbara was walking home alone from a local pub. Peter was getting out of his car while Barbara walked past him, and as she did, Peter hit her on the head with his hammer. He didn't even ask her question, he didn't even stop her. He does let her walk past, and then as soon as her back was to him, he attacked her like the
coward body is yea. He then dragged her body into a backyard and began stabbing her with the same screw driver that he used on Josephine. Peter then positioned Barbara's body before placing rubbish and stones on top of her. The next day, Barbara's roommates were worried that she never came home. However, they didn't want to report her missing just yet in case like she stayed at a friend's house or because logically that's what you're thinking. You're not thinking she's just
dead in a backyard somewhere. She's a college student. Yeah, she could have met a guy and gone back to his house. She could have stayed in a different friend's house. She could have literally anything as possible, and they didn't want to like report her missing and then have her walk in the door and then happened to explain to police like, oh, do you know, I get I do get it, But at the same time, what's going on in the area. I would prefer to cause the hulla blooon,
to cause the hassle. You see. It's because as well as that, you have the like media being like it's just sex workers. M yeah, and so they're like, well, she's not a sex worker, so she's
safe. When the case was that he was just attacking women like m just of any age, Like you have women to attack there that are in their forties, and then you have women that he's attacked that are teenagers like sixteen, yeah, yeah, do you know they finally do decide to report her missing later on that afternoon, and while looking for her, police found her body. Police then immediately are like, yeah, that's a ripper, Like that's a ripper murder and body hidden, and like the way it was staged
and everything. Police were starting to get a lot of questions for from the media and the public as to why this case hadn't been solved yet, like it's been four years, and like there's still no closer to finding him. There's still so much murders happening, Like what the fuck's going on? So they began to go back and look at their cases again to see what maybe they had missed. They questioned people again in the hopes of new leads.
Peter was formally questioned nine to ten times, and he was interacted with at least nineteen times during the investigation. That's it's just mind blowing. So like he's formally brought in for questioning nine or ten times, but he's interacted with a total of nineteen times at least, if not more, And this is obviously only giving him confidence that he keeps going in and they're like, now you're good, he's getting like he's getting away with it. Yeah, he's
like, they're questioning me, not realizing that it's me. So I can do whatever I want and it's fine. It's could be pretty much. Peter told police that he was at home doing repair work the night Barbara was killed, and Sonia cooborated this for him. Sonia was unaware that Barbara was killed after one am, like she assumed she was killed like nine pm. Like they're like, oh, on the night that she was killed. She's like, i'll probably like early nighttime, yeah, evening, yeah, yeah,
And so she's like, no, he was at home. But then where's your husband at one o'clock in the morning. See what he's doing. And this is where he's clever. He's going, I'm going for drinks with Trevor, like Trevor birds All. Yeah, And he goes for drinks or for Trevor birds All and then he's like, I'll drop you home, Trevor, and then I'm going to head home. But he doesn't head home. He heads off looking for a victim. So he has an alibi there because he's
going. Trevor's going to say, yeah, he dropped me home and then he went home, and then she's yeah, he went for drinks with Trevor and then came home. Right, I see. I'm still waiting for Trevor's redemption arc. By the way, it's it's it's coming, I promise. So police spent over one million pounds investigating the letters on the audio tape that wasn't actually from the ripper, So they spent over one million pounds on something that they should not have. Yes. Then in June nineteen eighty, police
followed Peter home as he was caught speeding. Whoa while, not hiding in a bush is enough to follow you home, but speeding. They soon realized that he was drunk, so they're like, he's drunk, and then police starts fighting with Peter starts fighting with the police overdoing a breathalyzer. Police eventually
arrest Peter and suspend his license for drunk driving and speeding. Okay, One of the arresting officers suggested that Peter be investigated investigated as a possible suspect for the Ripper, and other detectives told him that he'd already been ruled out. That one police officer must have been I don't even know the word. In the Netflix documentary, they actually interview him and he's like, I really felt like he was a strong possibility, like he was just like it was just
something about him. My spidy senses were tangling to be on quite literally, and so he's like, why don't we interview him again for an eleventh time?
And they're like, but he's been ruled out and he's like, oh, I don't know, I just feel like something and he in the In the Netflix documentary, he basically says that the higher ups of the investig he's just like an arresting officer, not like the higher up detectives are like, if you mentioned Peter Sutcliffe's name to us one more fucking time, you're at the door, Oh, he's been ruled out, leave it, drop it.
So he's like, new, him's got it. They you know, they probably didn't want to catch a case for fucking harassment either, probably not. But at the same time, this police officer is like, no, no, no, listen to me, like I'm seeing this go down like in a movie, like leave it alone, that you're off the case, you know, essentially essentially is what happened to him. Then, on August twentieth, nineteen eighty, Peter jumped Margarette walls. Margarette was walking home from
work, went out of nowhere, Peter jumped her. He hit her over the head with a hammer and then looped rope around her neck before dragging her out of sight. Peter then proceeded to strangle Margarette. He then took all of her clothes except for a pair of tights. He then put grass cuttings and leaves over her and the next morning to gardener has found Margaret's body and immediately called the police. At first, police did not link the depth to
the ripper because the EMO was completely different. And I will give them this one. It is completely not at all what you're expecting from a Yorkshire ripper killing. Margarette was never considered a victim of the ripper until Peter is caught and eventually admits to everything. Right, so they're not investigating this as a ripper case whatsoever. And it's not until Peter is actually arrested and he starts
like confessing, yep, I got her too. Yeah. Then on September twenty fourth, nineteen eighty, Peter was in a KFC restaurant when he saw a thirty four year old Upondia Bandara and I'm so sorry if I did not say that right. Peter immediately left the restaurant and quickly began following her. As soon as she turned down a badly alleyway, Peter ran up and hit her over the head with a hammer. No hate that, Nope, No, it's the running. You know, That's what you're was afraid of.
It is, isn't it. He then began to try and strangle her with her rope and he looted it around her neck. Someone could hear the commotions, so they walked outside to see what was going on and they scared Peter off. The neighbor rang police immediately when they saw Pandia bleeding from her head. Police did link this to the Ripper case, but they did not link the murder of Margarette, so they were like, yeah, okay, we'll believe you that this is the ripper Emma was similar to the previous murder.
Yeah, that's still not a Ripper case. Upandia, thankfully survived, wasn't able to give a clear description of her attacker because obviously she's in a KFC like getting food, leaving, not paying attention to like people are coming in at the doors, and like, of course you don't you don't look at people when you're in a fast food restaurant. I am busy eating my three burgers and I'm piling that ship. Yeah, but my sweet and Sarah saw
some. I'm just drinking it. On November fifth, nineteen eighty, Peter was on the hunt again for a victim when he saw sixteen year old Teresa Sikes. Teresa was walking home after buying cigarettes and was fifty yards from her home when Peter snuck up behind her and hit her over the head. As she fell to the ground, Peter hit her again. Peter thought Teresa wasn't conscious and began to drag her. When Teresa began screaming for help, Peter
quickly fled the scene. Teresa's boyfriend came running out to the screens and found her in the grass. He called nine one one, but Teresa wasn't able to give a clear description of her attacker. I'm so glad that her and the previous victim obviously survived, yes thankfully. Two weeks later, on November seventeenth, nineteen eighty, Peter told Sonya he was working late and that she
shouldn't wait up for him. But he wasn't working late. He was on the hunt for a victim when he saw a twenty year old Jacqueline Hill. Jacqueline was walking home from a lecture. Peter was in a KFC when he saw her and decided, okay, follow her. Now it's getting unhealthy, Peter, all right, he needs to calm down with the KFC. I know the bone, the boneless wings are good. We gotta calm down. Why is he ruining KFC for everybody? You know what, John mane Gacy,
the KFC. I'm just gonna have to ask serial killers to stay away from delicious fast food chain restaurants. Yeah, if you ruined McDonald's for me, I will fucking haunt you down myself if you were if anyone dares, If anyone dares, I'll suffocate them with the mcflurry. You know what worse a filet of fish? Oh yeah, you're getting a filet of fish in your face. You're getting twenty I'm going to suffocate you. I'm going to shove them in your mount until you can't breathe no more. WHOA that felt
personal? I really like McDonald's. Okay. As Jacqueline turned down a badly light road, Peter snuck up behind her, and hit her over the head with a hammer. He then dragged her body behind in Arndale, behind the Arndale Shopping Center, which is in Manchester, which is where I shopped in the Arndale. Okay, it's fucking mass up. So I don't know where he brought her. But because I could not tell you where the behind of it is, because there's like twenty different entrances. Is there build a bear
in that one? Yeah? I think I was there when I was younger and I got a lamb and I called her Sally and if you pushed on her, Tommy, it was like, I love you. But then obviously the voice box started to die, was oh love you. Sally had to go love and it's like, nope, no, you don't. You're out of here. You don't love me. It's okay, just leave, Sally, just leave. It's not mutual. It's not me, it is you. So he brings her behind the Arundale Shopping Center and began stabbing her even
in the eye. It does that have been built a bear in it? In the eye? Yep? Oh my god. Id a Rondo ten PM A student friend Jacqueline's purse and brought it home his room had been a police officer in Hong Kong, and so he found a woman's purse. So he found a woman's purse, and he his roommate used to be a police officer in Hong Kong, and so he in his like, I suppose I'm going to go out and away him and say innocent head brings it home and is like, hey, you used to be a police officer. What should I
do with this? I found it near the arndale, right, I don't know. I guess you would. They're like. The roommate is like, you should have left it there and just called the police. Yeah, but he's like, but right, we'll call the police now, I guess. So the police do a quick search of the area, but they never found Jacqueline's body. The following morning, an employee at the Arndale found Jacqueline's body and called nine one one. So she's just been very close. She was
thirty yards from where her purse was. But yet when police But when police went searching, they never found her, even just being the person that picked up the purse, knowing that she was only a few feet away from you. Literally, police told the press they had no reason to suspect it was a ripper murder. Okay, you're the police. I trust you implicitly.
On November twenty fifth, nineteen eighty, police received a letter that said, quote to whom it may concern, I'm writing to inform you that I have every good reason to believe I know the man you are looking for in the ripper case. It is an incident which happened within the last five years. I cannot give any date or place or any details without myself being known to the ripper or you. If this is the man, it is only until recently something came to my notice, and now a lot of things fit into
place. I can only tell you one to do things which fit. For example, this man has had dealings with sex workers and always had a thing about them. Also, he is a long distance lurry driver collecting engineering items etc. I am quite sure if you check up on dates etc. You may find something. His name and address is Peter Sutcliffe, five Garden Lane, Heaton, Bradford. Police ignore this letter was that forever trying to do
that make good? No one processed it until after Peter had been arrested, and the letter was written none other by Trevor birdsall go tever, go forever. I'm still not happy with you, though you could have done something earlier. He could have well, at least you did something at this point. I honestly believe to begin with, it was a case of not my friend, but your friend has you know, assaulted sex workers right in front of
you. He kind of is like, no, cot be him, like he's a nice guy, he's loving with his wife, like no, and then I think just things start to line up for him that he's like, shit, I think it is my friend. That's like when you come to a sudden realization of something that happened in your childhood one day, when you're just sitting there and you're like, oh, this makes sense now, so
this is why I'm traumatized. Yeah, yeah, I think it's well, he's like realizing that, like like he's gone for drinks with Peter, and then that night a woman has been murdered, yes, you know, and he's kind of going, yeah, that woman was murdered at like one am, and he dropped me home at like twelve am. M. Yeah, you would get a little suspicios so, but no one processes the letter until
after Peter is arrested. I find this amazing because it's like you have questioned this man multiple times and now you have an anonymous letter being sent to you being like, oh, I'm pretty sure it's him, and you're just like, Eh, the letter. I don't even think the letter was opened. I think the letter arrives in one of the many headquarters that was set up and it sits there. And the police's excuse was that they were receiving hundreds of tips at the time. Yeah, I'm sure they meant to get rented
it after their coffee break. And it's like, yeah, you may have been receiving one hundreds of tips at the time, but you should have looked at every single one. Women were being murdered at like every few weeks. Look, I'm not saying that, like it's one thousand percent the police's fault that they never caught. Like, you know, they were receiving letters, and they were receiving different things that were put pointing them in the wrong direction.
But at the same time, how many times does someone have to pop up for you to take it as a serious, serious indication, Yeah, for you to take it as more than just a little quinky dink. Yeah, Trevor then gave police an in person statement about his letter when he never heard back from the police, so he sent the letter in and then after a little while he was like, I've never heard anything, and Peter still hasn't been caught yet, so he goes in to like give like an in
person statement, but once again police never followed up on the statement. Imagine being Trevor, You're you're sending that letter, you don't hear anything, and now you still have to go and be friends with Peter, like you'd be out for drinks like so sex workers. Huh, you should probably be stabbed, right right. You can't stop being his friend because then that's suspicious, and so it's like the fuck. In December nineteen eighty a specialist had a
look at the letters and the audio police received. He believed that the letters were not written by the ripper, but believed that he could identify the author. He urged the police to release the letters and the like the full letters and the full tape to the public, as he believed it would reveal the author, but unfortunately nothing came from this. On January second, nineteen eighty one, Peter was out in Sheffield on the hunt when he saw twenty four
year old Olivia Reavers. Olivia was a sex worker and agreed to get in Peter's care. Peter began talking with Olivia about his life and his wife. Olivia was urging Peter that she just wanted to get the job over and done with, like if she hasn't seen him. She's like, can we just do what we gotta do and then I'll be on my merry way and you can be on your merry way. Because she doesn't know he's about to kill her. Yeah. This was when police pulled up beside Peter. Peter tried
to tell police that Olivia was his girlfriend. However, she had been arrested several times before for solicitation, so they were like, she's not your girlfriend. We know your girlfriend? Yeah, like hi, Olivia, how are you still sex working? I see? And he's like, no, no, no, she's my girlfriend. She's like, oh, Brian, how are you as kids? Did your wife like that present you got her? He's like yeah, thanks for the advice, and Peter said like, she's
my girlfriend him with a wedding ring on. Oh god, yeah, oh god, good times, good times. Peter was also driving a car with the stolen redge, because let's not forget Peter's license has been suspended for drunk driving. Oh yeah, yeah. The pair were quickly arrested. Before being put in the back of the police care Peter asks if he can go pee behind a bush and the officer is like, sure, whatever, whatever, So he does and then he comes back and he's brought to the station and
Peter was questioned for hours about the stolen redge and the solicitation. Sonia was then in about the charges that he has been arrested on, which is a stolen car, dge and solicitation. So she's like, ah, hell's to the he's out with a fucking sex worker. Yeah, And due to the Ripper killings, anyone arrested in the Yorkshire area for the solicitation had to be
questioned in regards to the case. So if you were just caught with a sex worker, you were interrogated about the ripper killings because they just had to root like they just were like, can't take a chance. So the next morning Peter was questioned on this and some of the things he was saying, we're starting to like concern the officers. He was talking about how he used to own a white Cossair and how he had good hours being a lurry driver.
Police began to remember the letter they received, and when they looked into his name, they saw that he was a person of interest and had been interviewed many times, and they were like, wow, I wouldn't have seen this one coming. Peter was on a first name basis with the police at
this stage. Though. Peter also had a rare blood type which had been found at several crime scenes but was never made public, so nobody knew that they had found blood, Like the public didn't know that there was blood found at several of the crime scenes or was it from his his seamen? And no, there was one time he was in like a junkyard and he cut his hand on like a broken porcelain sink that was and like also left a
partial print in the blood as well. He is stupid. The officer who arrested Peter was like this guy, Like what he's saying is weird, you know, because he's like, oh, yeah, I used to drive a white car that you used to look for. And then he's like I have sweet hours being a lorry driver, Like I'm up and down the Yorkshire Roads and they're like, wait just a second, that's weird. And so the police officer was like, he went behind a bush before we arrested him to
go pee. I let this man go behind a bush by himself before we brought him into the station to search him. I'm getting a weird feeling about the bush. So he's like, I'm just gonna go back and have a quick snoopy snoop do do my job because this guy is weird. And so he goes and he investigates and it's not long before the officer finds a hammer and discarded in the area. What's the bush doing with those? Huh bush? I'm gonna have to arrestue on plank this bush right now, it's coming
with me. After a couple of days of being questioned, Peter just turned around and said, I think you're leading up to the Yorkshire Ripper. What gives you that impression? He was asked. They were like, what about the Yorkshire Ripper? And Peter leans back in his chair and he says that's me. Oh no, fuck you, fuck you so much. Oh my god, that's so annoying, this fucking guy. Oh my god, just
like look listen, you've been questioning me for a couple of days. Now you're on the build and the up and up to mention the Yorkshire Ripper, he said, let me make it easy for you. And they're like, what about the Yorkshire us leading up? What about that? And he's like, it's me no, no, sir, I mean yes, but like also to be so like you're looking at him like no, m It took
Peter twenty four hours to make a full confession. Peter never sent any letters to police or the media, and it would not be until two thousand and five that police learned who wrote those letters. A man by the name was sorry. That made me think of Colleen Rooney, remember when she done that thing? Who was it again? Another wag Rebecca Verardy? And I know it's Rebecca Verdi because Rebecca Verdi coined she now owns the saying Wagatha Christie.
Why who's ever using wag at the Christie? Rebecca Verdi? Because that's so when the trial was happening, everyone was calling it wag you know, like Agatha Christie. But like yeah, because it was all deed. Rebecca Verdi do what she's been accused of, and so the media were like wage the Christie and so she like patented it. Oh my god, that's embarrassing. Oh but yeah, he's like it's it's Rebecca Verdie. The name of the man that wrote the letters was John Humble. He sent the audio as well.
He was arrested and he was sentenced to eight years in prison for derailing the investigation and costing over one million pounds in like investigating like in resource that Peter wrote John a letter in prison telling him that the last three victims were John's fault. The woman John claimed to be the rippers first victim, which was Joan Harrison, I don't think I mentioned her name. That was the
one that he was like my first victim, and it wasn't him. So Peter like wrote him a note and was like, I'm not gonna lie, some of it is John's fault, like syn, but you derailed the investigations so much so that they were looking for someone with a completely wrong accent. They were following leads that they should not have been following all because you were bored. Yeah, pretty much. But the absolute neck of Peter to be like those last three victims, they're on EU bloods on your hands John.
No, Peter, you're just trying to like guilt your like guilt free, be guilt free, and pass it on to some of somebody else. Yeah. He also was like, you try to say that I killed Joan Harrison when I did not. That was not me. I don't know who done it, but I can't just tell you that it was absolutely not me. In two and eleven, DNA proved that a convicted sex worker named Christopher Smith
was responsible for Joan's death. So, however, Christopher had died in two thousand and eight, so Christopher was another sex worker had maybe fought with Joan. Was Jonah sex worker? I'm actually not too sure it was that murder that I mentioned earlier anyway, that the letter the letters were mentioning. In one sense, it's great for the family because they know they know who actually done it, but it's also sad because that person was already dead by the
time that they found out. And so justice. Yeah. On Monday, January fifth, nineteen eighty one, the news was released that the Yorkshire Ripper had been arrested. Peter was charged with thirteen murders and seven attempted murders. Peter pleaded guilty, but was claiming he was deranged as God told him to kill the sex workers. Peter, just stop it, just say you hate women. To move on. Peter's defense team had a doctor talk to Peter
eleven times and he testified that Peter was a paranoid schizophrenic. Peter's trial began on May fourth, nineteen eighty one. The defense went hired on the mental illness plea and had a second doctor confirmed that Peter had schizophrenic tendencies. However, the prosecution pointed out that it wasn't until Peter hired a defense team that he started to act a certain way, yeah, the prosecution. The prosecutor also pointed out that the doctors had prompted him to respond a certain way to
certain questions. Sonja, if you remember suffered schizophrenic tendencies when she had her mental breakdown. Oh that's right, back in the early days, and Peter had been her career. Yeah, so he would know what to do. You would have seen, so he knew how to recreate those symptoms. The trial lasted two weeks. The prosecutor claimed, quote, he was a cold blooded, calculated murderer who has made this up because he wants to go to
the looney bin for ten years instead of thirty years in prison. After six hours of deliberation, Peter was found guilty and saying. On May twenty second, nineteen eighty one, Peter was sentenced to life in prison. Peter bounced back and forth from Parkhurst Prison and hospitals for his schizophrenia. Sonia got a separation from Peter in nineteen eighty nine and officially divorced him in nineteen ninety four. Sonia was awarded the house. Well, it's not like he's going to
be using it. Peter was attacked many times in prison from other inmates. In nineteen ninety seven and inmates dabbed Peter in the left eye. Oh my god. So now he knows what it feels like. Yep. And at age seventy four, Peter Sutcliffe died on November thirteenth, twenty twenty from COVID Bye bit jazz. Honestly, so there you go. Trevor birds All got his redemption. He tried so hard to be like listen to me. Yeah. The fact that it then want to police after I'm like, all right,
all right, you get away with it this time. Trevor but don't let me catch you again. Yeah, the prosecution were very much like, yeah, his wife suffered a schizophrenic attack, like you know, like she had a full on mental Like he knows what he's doing, he knows what to say and how to act, and his whole thing was God told me, God told you jack shit, God's not talking to you, my friend.
Definitely not you. To the women that survived Peter um, I think it's heartbreaking that they had to be talked about in such a disgusting manner. H And as well for the victims that didn't survive, Like, I think it's so unfair to paint like Jane McDonald as a quote unquote innocent victim when
they were all innocent victims. Yeah. Definitely watching like some I watched like two documentaries on it, and like one of them, one of the sons of one of the women that Peter murdered, Like, he gets so upset because he's just like, my mother was so much more than a sex worker. That's like to be to kind of pair anybody down to their just their job is ridiculous in the first place, but to do it just because they're a sex worker has it's like even more, there's something more evil about it.
You know, they're really like he like bless his soul is like you know, like she was an amazing mother, Like she'd done everything for us, you know, like the job that she's not there for the love of it, Like yeah, like he's like the job that she was out there doing was for us, Like it wasn't something that she chose to do,
it was something she had to do. And then the fact that it was then twisted and turned against her, and when she was this loving, amazing person, yeah, you know when he's like and that's all the media ever
knew or us And I believe it was if I have this correct. I didn't write it down, but I believe it was like something like two eighteen or twenty nineteen, the like Yorkshire Police released like an official apology for how police, because it wasn't just the media, it was police as well, where very much of the oh he's only killing sex work sex workers, like we'll catch him when we get him. And it wasn't until that he actually
started killing just women, you know what I mean. Yes, but then they were like, oh shit, we better catch him, and they were getting pressure to catch him for the murder of Jane. Yeah, and so like the Yorkshire Police were like, yeah, no, like it should have been a like it shouldn't have been a case of it was like uns only sex workers. No, of course it never should have been. But but
to be perfectly apologized, I'm glad they apologize. Put to be perfectly honest, I think it's still very much a thing, like it's still very much a there sex workers who are asking for it. No, no, it's like they are. They haven't only fans. So they deserved for their nuts to be leaked around. They deserve to be here. They deserved abuse, And it's like no, no, no, nobody does. Nobody deserves that. Let's all treat each other just like fucking human beings. That would be
fantastic. Actually, at the end of the day, my body's my body, Your body is your body. What I choose to do with mine is none of yours, and what you choose to do with yours is none of mine. Yep. Anyway, that was a nice way to wrap up the
three episodes. I'm very glad to be done with him. And it is an interesting case like it's it's interesting on how the media like it's interesting to me to look at how the media and how the police like handled it, you know, like it's to me like that's like, oh my god, what the hell. And then I'm like I need to know more. Yeah, kind of go down the rabbit hole. Yeah. So, if you really enjoyed this six episode, I'm sure you've already checked out part one and
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