Hi, welcome back to give us mark me. I'm Megan, and you were here for probably another three part or three. I believed this was two NIE's happened. Um, it's a lot bigger of a case than I remember. And I was like, where I was looking at? Where to part it? You know that's why she's where Is that what he said? Where to art? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, um, you know, like where to end? And I was like, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. M sees she did it again, guys, oopsnief did it
again. She made it three parts that last in the case. Oh baby, baby, look listen, it's not my fault. If these people would does not be such assholes, Oh wouldn't have so much to write about. Very true. I have a question for you, what is your biggest pet peeve that is like not a normal pet peeve to have like people that you know, she with their mouth opens like a normal pet peeve. But what's
one that I have? Okay, I have to think about this. I have to more so think about like what does Cottle do that pisses me off? But isn't something that should piss me off? And this is going to be Um, I hate when he does something that I was like, in my head had scheduled like house wise, house work, like work wise. Okay, that's my favorite thing. He changed the bed sheets. They're like
two weeks ago. I want to say, but I have a schedule for bed sheet changing, Okay, Like I have a date, like I changed the beds and I'm like, right, okay, next time I have to change these bed sheets is on this date. M he comes in and it just fucks up the sheet schedule, and it's like, thank you. I do super appreciate it. I don't need to send like my bithink cleans and it's so I know it was you know, I like schedule my cleaning like
I the like first week of every month. I like deep clean, like my bathroom, my like my shower, I change all the sheets, and I like, you know, I wish I had that motivation. I'm just like, I wake up one day and I have the energy and that's when it happens. But it happens. It happens. And it was a peppe for me. What is yours? So I asked that question off the cuff.
So I didn't really have anything prepared, but the first one that I can think of is like you know when you're talking to somebody and you're like, oh yeah, and then I got this burger and it had a burger and ketchup and pickles on it, and that person interrupts you to be like oh no, no, no, no, no, no, couldn't be. I hate pickles. I hate them so much. They're just gusting.
They're vial, and you're like, look, but this is my story and I like pickles and it's my burger, so don't interrupt me to tell me that you don't like pickles. I do that, but maybe not as aggressively, but I do know. It happened to me recently where I was talking about food. I was saying a recipe and I was like, this thing is in it and they were like no, no, no, why you hell you eat you possibly either you Like they were like disgusted, and it
was it was something like girkins or something like that. I always get that reaction with gerkins and mushrooms. Yeah, yeah, no, Like I don't like pickles and I don't like mushrooms, but I wouldn't be like like you're feel fully fully, I'm like, bitch, I wanna better eat this, like excuse you. Another one of mine is m is people using the word
therefore. And I might have mentioned it on the podcast before, but when people are like saying a sentence and to just sound more intelligent, they use the word there They just use the word therefore, like it's not necessarily needed for the word yeah, some sentence exactly like I hit power off on the laptop. Therefore the power turned off on the lapt I mean you didn't need to expand on that. I understood that you turned the fucking laptop off,
you know. Yeah? Yeah, what else like really grinds my gears, to be honest with you, It's just like people just being stupid, like doing like stupid shit, Like a isn't like when like you see somebody doing something that is so obviously stupid, Like it's so obvious that like you should not be doing that, and you're watching them when you're going, how do you do? That's it? That's like a normal thing to get that enraged about. Yeah, I'm an angry person. So I have a third because
this is what I call me thinking about it. I opened up my fridge and I saw a plate with leftovers on it, you know, the way as you do you might put some leftovers in the fridge, but there was a knife and a fork on that plate. Oh no, oh no, no no, that stresses me out. It gets my core as all levels high. I can't deal with it. No, why is there utensils in my refrigerator? Yeah no, that's a note from me. Absolutely, that's a note from me. I'm like drawing a blank at like what annoys me?
And I wouldn't mind, Like I do get annoyed quite a lot. Do you know what I hate is when you're like out in public, it's like me and you, right, which is this is one thousand percent come to me, me and you next week. And you're like giddy, m because like, yeah, I haven't seen your friend in a while, or you haven't been out in a while, and you're like you're feeling good and
you're having a good time, so you're like giddy. And then there's like someone and they're just like staring at you, like giving you the eye, giving you that I giving you the judgment. Yeah, and it's like have you not had fun? I'm sorry that you're pussy is so fucking dry that you can't have a bit of fun. Yeah, And like you're not doing anything, You're not harming anyone, You're not being like obnoxiously loud. You're just like laughing, having a good time. And then somebody is just like
being a cup. You're like, couldn't be you? What? Clearly it wouldn't be you because you have no friends. Little loser? Gotcha, you little loser? What's you guys? As pet peeves? I actually would really love to know that, because everyone has so many pet peeves. Obviously, the big one is chewing with your mind open. Chewing with cattles is people
who drink tea or coffee. We always slurp the first sip, and that really gets them, you know when it's like, you know, when you make a cup of tea, Yeah, and it's still scald and hot. You've added your milk and all that, but it's still like the steam. So you give a little a little blow and then you go to like take and then you're like to like taste test it to see how hot is it. You're like testing how hot it is? So yeah, he hates that. I'm going to keep that in mind. Why did you always slurp your
tea? I'm like, cause it's tea. See I leave my tea for like ten minutes before I haven't touch it, so it's always like stone gold by the time I get to it. I won't lie. I do leave mine for a good at least five minutes anyway, and then I like chug it. I'm taking gulps. I'm like as if I've never had a cup of tea in my life. But you know when it's like you're not sure. You know when you're not sure, like how hot it is, Yeah, and you don't want to take too big of a sip in case it's
still hot. Yeah, he really hates that. Or like when people get milkshakes and they're at the end of the milkshake. So everything to do, everything to do with Cauls is like liquid you can't deal with like liquidy kind of shit, like like like yeah, moth noises, meth noises. He call, Do you want to come edit in the podcast All in Here twenty seven? Okay, So I think we were going to get started because we
have a long we're all ahead of us. And so, first of all, if you haven't listened to last week's episode on Matthew Hoffman, if you're interested in a triple homicide and a fucking guy that really wants to fuck trees. Go listen to that. I'm not gonna lie. The Instagram post deceased me with his fucking right, isn't it insane? Like, no matter what I said, I don't think I could put it in to anybody's like brain. How many like you hear there's like bags of leaves and you're just like,
what the fuck? And then you see the photo of the bags of leaves and you're like, no, because that's not healthy, Like it wasn't healthy to begin with, but that's really not healthy. No, man's obsessed with leaves and trees. Yeah, like seriously, And the guys in the discord apparently really liked the episode. So also, if you want to be in the discord and you can find that link anywhere on Instagram, you know what, maybe we'll just put it in our bio right now. Yeah,
I probably should do. That would probably be the best idea. Okay, Well, then Nieve has a seriously interesting case for us that I'm actually very intrigued to hear about. Because this this this guy isn't one of those guys you like hear about a lot. He's not like Ted Bundy. He's not like Jeffrey Dahmer. No, No, he's a little lesser known. And I don't know. Maybe it's because he's English, like you know, it's not a Maybe he's well known in England, I don't know, but he's
not really everywhere else. And in case you didn't know, it's the Yorkshire Ripper. He doesn't sound like that. I don't know I to that, but it worked, it worked, yeah. So. Peter William Sutcliffe was born June second, nineteen forty six in Bingley West Riding of Yorkshire, hence the Yorkshire Ripper. His father was John Sutcliffe. He was a baker and his mother was Kathleen, and she was a stay at home man, which is also a top by the way, it is a hard one. Peter
had five siblings. He had two brothers and three sisters. They seemed to be a normal working class family, like nothing really majorly out of the ordinary. Peter didn't relate to his brothers or his father's really a lot. When he was young, he was smart, he was a clever child. He just never applied himself at school life, to be perfectly honest, but it
wasn't because he wasn't clever. It's just because he was nursed. Yeah, I feel that Peter never showed any interest in girls or dating as a teenager, but he was very good at mechanics. Peter dropped out of school at the age of fifteen in nineteen sixty one and got a job as an apprentice at a local engineering company. After less than a year, Peter left the
apprenticeship. Peter then decided to join the gym, and he was starting to become a little bit more confident and a bit more take care of himself. A self care king, but too much of a self care king if he asked me. He started to make friends, and it is reported that at some stage in the nineteen sixties Peter decided he wanted to try and form a pop group. Stop it, stop it right now? What were they going to call each other? I've no idea him, I have no idea.
It's just apparently. It's reported that he apparently wanted to start some type of pop group with like some of his friends. I am a fully imagining Peter Sutcliffe in like justin Timberlake, like anything. I'm I'm thinking like s Club, seven club, no party, like a nice club party. I'm really showing my age. Are they the same people who done screen? If you want to go best? No, that could have been s Club Junior.
Oh it was Jerry halliwell, she was the Spice Girls, but just her when she went out with, not the rest of the Spice Girls, just her. I remember going to that diner that used to be in the town Friday Nights or something hard Day's Nights. Yeah, I went to her Day's Night when we first moved to the town. I forced my mother to put that song on the radio on the jukebox. That was the ultimate diner. Miss it every single day. Yeah, it was devastating when it closed.
Their curly fries and their strawberry milkshakes were heavenly. I don't remember the food, I just remember the vibes. They were immaculate. The vibes were immaculate. Absolutely. Anyway, back to Peter trying to start a bad Peter could not keep a job. He never applied himself to anything and he would often get fired. Because of this, Peter began to become very self obsessed and was more focused on his looks than keeping a job. Like that was more
important to him than earning money. He sounds like Luke and mcnata. Yeah. In nineteen sixty five, Peter got a job as a grave digger. He was very good at this and he never really got in trouble, apart from he was always late relatable. One of his co workers said that at first he seemed normal, but as everyone got to know him, they learned he had a weird obsession with death. This concerned most of his co workers. It was reported that sometimes before burying a casket, Peter would open it
up to see the dead body inside. Apparently he would often even steal jewelry off the dead bodies, and apparently he would touch the dead bodies and then he would eat lunch without washing his hands. Oh that everything here is terrible, but I'm sorry. All I can think of is him as a grave
digger. But like he's imagining himself as a pop icon. He's like and he's like Peter and the grave Diggers, and he's like dancing with his fucking shovel in the middle of the night, like under the moonlight, dancing Peter. Apparently, the body of a female police officer came in and Peter grabbed her face and said quote you won't be putting anyone else away, now, will you, you bitch? And what was the need for that, now,
Peter, Peter, that was so unnecessary. I remember when I like find that in the research, Like I was just like, why why he's never at this point, he has never been intro with the law. He's a bad boy, bad boy boy. What mhmm. And Peter was then fired for always being late in nineteen sixty seven. That's what he was fired for. That's what he was fired for. That's what tip the bo okay. They were like, you've been late one too many times. He got
a new job soon, as an assistant to a mortuary. Like stop getting jobs with dead people, just you know, yeah, let's not let's just your dad is a baker. How do you get here? Did you get here? Peter was still living at home during this time and still didn't have many friends. He would spend a lot of time in his room, and he began to get weirdly concerned with his sister's moral well being. Oh no, nothing good ever comes of a guy who cares about a woman's moral wellbeing.
Do you flash the nikele you wore? Honestly, Peter would get annoyed. If any man would come and like pick her up for a date or anything like that, he'd be like, she's such a slot. She's gone. Hell, it's like she's just gone on a date, Peter, She's just gone on a date. I feel like Peter wants to suck his own sister. Yeah, he probably did, you know, and to be honest,
wouldn't put it past him. Peter's only close friend was a man named Trevor birds All, and they would go out to the local pubs together and stuff. The pair would go to watch sex workers in different areas all along Orkshire, which is weird thing to do with your friend. It's a weird thing to do, but it's an even weirder thing to do with a friend. I mean, I've heard so many stories of men watching porn together and it's like, why this is weird to me? No offense, Megan,
I wouldn't want to watch porn with you. I don't want to watch porn with you either, thanks, but I'm good. Trevor believed that Peter had assaulted, quote or worse, two sex workers around Leeds and Bradford. Trevor soon enough gets married and he's no longer able to just hang out with Peter whenever. So they still do hang out occasionally, but then just not as
much as they would have. Sorry, I feel like we kind of brushed past the whole Peter sexually assaulting or maybe worse than sex workers, and Trevor just doing nothing. We'll get into this, don't you worry. Okay, don't wear a little head and Peter then met sixteen year old Sonya Serzma in nineteen sixty seven at a pub. He is twenty one and she is a sixteen Peter file. Sonya was a very smart girl, and she wanted to go off to be a teacher. That's what she like. She felt like
was her like mission in life. Like she just like she was like, I would be an amazing fucking teacher. Yeah, Sonja, get it, educate those kids. The pair soon began dating after this. In nineteen sixty nine, Peter found out that his mother was having an affair with the neighbor scat So when Peter's father found that his wife was having an affair, he decided he was going to publicly humiliate her, so he found out where she
was meeting the neighbor on their like scheduled affair knights. He then brought all of the children with him to bump into her on her way to wherever, like whatever motel she was meeting him at. Then when he saw her, he grabbed her purse and pulled out the new nightey that she had bought, and he started showing it off to all of their children, being like, look I armat yeah, which I'm like, I'm one breath. I'm like, you know what, I get it because you can't do the time,
don't do the crime. But at the in front of your kids, I get wanting to hurt her and wanting to humiliate her. But they're her children. And I don't know, if you ever think about maybe had this might fuck up your kids? Maybe maybe just a suggestion. This made Peter lower his opinion of women in general, and also he never thought of his mother the same. Again, he never viewed her the same way he would view a sex worker, and Peter had a very very low opinion of sex workers.
But Peter is a literal pedophile, and he's like, you know what, the people who are making a living out there using what God gave them. Yeah. The same year, Peter's brother told him that he had saw Sonia cheating on him with a boy that worked at a local ice cream parlor. Peter went to confront Sonia about the rumor, but she would not confirm or deny if she was seeing someone else or not, and this drove him wild. Is it definitely confirmed that they were dating or is just just something
that Peter is like, Oh, Sonia is like my girlfriend. She's like sixteen, she can't drive or drink, yet it's like totally cool. And Sonia's actually like, so this guy's actually a creep and he's following me around, and I have a real relationship with a boy that's my age. So at this stage, she's eighteen, and I believe they were seeing each other. I believe that her and Peter were dating, but they were never like exclusively dating. Okay, like they had been on dates, so it's apparently
then she had also been on a few dates with some other boy. And then the brother saw and then I was like, because obviously I'm sure he was telling his family like, oh, yes, I have a girlfriend and she's totally age appropriate. Dad, you don't even get it. The dad was probably like, yeah, get it to them, that's gross. So this This really like got Peter going, like he was like, I'm gonna show you SNYA. And he decided that to get revenge on her, he
was going to go pick up a sex worker. Oh, that'll do the trick. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be so jeckalous with her new boyfriend. So he did. He goes and he picks up a sex worker and he's on his way to her place to do the deed when he decides that it's probably my actually not the best idea. He's like, hmm, I actually don't want to go through with this, and the sex worker is like, you can have your money back, and then he's like, perfect, thank
you. And they get to her place and she's like, luck, listen, I just I want to keep the like bigger bills that you paid me. So I'm gonna go inside. I'm gonna get you change. Is that okay? And he's like, yeah, sure, just as long as you like give me my money back. I don't want you give a fuck what in what manner? So she goes inside and then she sends out two large men to beat the crap out of Peter. Why he didn't see this coming? I don't know, so they attack him and then they sent him on
his merry little way without his money. What's on no head? That's what it's like. A few weeks later, Peter sees the same sex worker at a pub he's at with Trevor. He goes up to her and he's like, I remember you. I haven't forgotten what you did. You owe me my money and that's smart. The woman laughs in his face, Okay, yeah, I would do, and then tells everyone in the pub about how
she absolutely made a holy show of him. And this was the last drop for Peter, and this is when he begins his attack on what he believes are sex workers. Can I just say, for somebody that had a very low opinion of sex workers and regarded them as like scum of the earth, why did he try to make use of the service? Then you can't say that they're these disgusting assholes and then be like, but if you're busy,
hey, hey girl, like what you can't do that? No, No, So before we get into his attacks, we'll just take a quick little at birth Welcome back to the fun. In September nineteen sixty nine, Peter was out drinking with Trevor birds all in Bradford. While the pair were driving from one pub to another, Peter saw a girl he assumed was a sex worker. Peter made Trevor pull over so he could follow the girl. Trevor was waiting in the car, and after about ten minutes, Peter came running
up to the car, all flustered and anxious. He jumped in and he yelled a Trevor to speed off. Trevor asked what happened and he said he hit the girl over the head. Trevor questioned, like, Trevor was like was that on purpose or like what? Like? What just happened? Sorry? But did you kill her accidentally? It's my question. Peter responded that he put a rock in a sock and he swung it at the girl, hitting her in the head. And then Peter took her rock out of his
pocket and threw it at the car window. What the man is running around with only one stock on manages to find a rock from somewhere, just uses that as a weapon because casual, and then brings the murder weapon back with him and just throws it out of a car window. After telling his friend he just killed a sex fare So Trevor asked if the girl was okay, and Peter replied, quote, of course she is the old cow. I just wanted money. I mean, of course she is. You just fucking
attacked her like Jailhease style. Peter would later go on to say, quote, I had to do it. It was my mission. I was told sex workers were the scum of the earth, and the guy who wants to fuck a sister isn't. The woman that Peter attacked survived and saw Trevor's license plate, so she went to the police and she reported the crime. So police went to question Trevor because it was his license plate, and he was like, yeah, no, luckily, and I was with my friend Peter.
He got out of the car and he came running back like he like was like, no, no, I ain't like I did judge it right, and just to get away driver unintentionally like I was. I haven't drinks with my pal. So he like sends them Peter's way and they go and they questioned Peter, and Peter's just like, yeah, I hit her. I wasn't with a rock though, I hit her with my hand, like I you know, yeah, closed fisted, sure m. Police ask him
some more questions and then they leave like they don't arrest him. They're just like, cool, thanks for your time. What he like? I think he like spins some story that like she took his money and he was just trying to get it back and so he like hit her to get it back, and the police are just like cool, thanks for your time. Surely the injury from a rock would be different, it would be different to that of her. I would am I and so too. But a few weeks
later, a policeman sees Peter's car on the side of the road. He decided to go see if everything was okay, but as he got closer to the car, Peter just sped off. A little while later, the officer saw Peter's car again, but this time it was empty. The officer had a quick look around and he soon found Peter hiding in some bushes holding a hammer. Oh oh, okay, are you okay? In their little guy, you're right. Peter told the officer that his hood cap had come off
his car and he needed to hammer it back on. The police officer didn't believe him, and he arrested him. But the officer never searched like Peter's body like they never searched him, and if they did. If the officer had had searched him, they would have found a knife in his pocket.
Peter was fined twenty five pound and charged with a misdemeanor. I will say twenty five pound back in nineteen sixty nine would be a lot more than it is today, but it's still He was charged twenty five pound and a misdemeanor. I guess they didn't catch him actually doing any They just caught him hiding in a bush like little freak. Well, the police report doesn't even mention that he has a hammer in it, like they left that out. Oh later, Peter admits that he was there to try to kill a sex worker
and the officer interrupted him. What the fuck. Peter and Sonia are still dating at this stage, but Sonia had moved to London to study to be a teacher. Sonia had a mental breakdown over the stress of school, which like get it girl. She was admitted to the hospital in nineteen seventy two. Peter was then assigned as her primary caregiver, and on August tenth, nineteen seventy four, the couple got married. Sonya was doing better. She
was released from hospital, and her and Peter moved. Her and Peter went on a honeymoon to Paris. They then moved into her parents' home so that they could save money so like to buy their own place, and Sonia was able to return back to the teacher program with the help of her parents. Good for her, Peter became friendly with their neighbor, Ronald Barker. The pair would go out drinking together in the local pubs and they would be out
chasing women. On July fifth, nineteen seventy five, Peter went to Kiley's red light district and was just watching the sex workers. After a while, Peter saw thirty six year old Anna Rogulski. Anna was walking to her boyfriend's apartment, and Peter assumed she was a sex worker as he had seen her around the area before. As Anna walked past him, Peter asked her if she was quote in business, and Annah, like a queen, responds,
not on your life, good woman. Anna got to her boyfriend's house and she was a little bit shaken up because like some strange man was like are you. So she gets to her boyfriend's apartment and she is banging on the door and she's shouting to be let in when Peter snuck up behind her and hit her on the back of the head twice with a hammer. Peter then dragged Anna's unconscious body den an alleyway and began cutting her stomach with a knife.
A neighbor had heard the struggle and came out to see what was going on, startling Peter into running away. Anna had two skull fractures and had to have a twelve hour surgery, but she survived. Anna couldn't remember anything about her attack or who attacked her, unfortunately, but at least she survived. My god, I'd imagine surviving something like that. Oh God, listener, discretion is advised. Sorry, Meggan, you have to hear it.
Peter liked to masturbase over his victim's bodies as they lay dying. No no, no, no, And there and there was semen found on Anna's clothes. That is absolutely the fact that her stomach was like cut open, and he's no sele so like they did have a semen, but obviously like he'd never been arrested, Like they didn't have his DNA. Do you know what I mean? It's nineteen fucking seventy four or whatever. I don't know it was DNA even a real thing back then. Like I know they could tell
blood type. I don't even know, but like it's nineteen seventy five, so like, no, I can't imagine it's a big thing. So it didn't matter that they had it. To be perfectly honest, On August fifteenth, nineteen seventy five, Peter and Trevor Birdsall went to a pub in Halifax for some drinks. Do you think that like Trevor's wife would be like,
hey, I feel like Peter's like not a good guy. He brought police to our door and maybe don't hang out with him, or like Trevor would maybe think that himself, like, hey, Peter's like really sketchy, and maybe Trevor's a sketchy guy. Maybe he is, I don't know. To be honest, I will say spoiler alert, he will redeem himself in the very end. I await Trevor's redemption looking forward to it. During the night, Peter got into a disagreement with forty six year old Olive Smelt. Peter
had accused all of being a sex worker, which she was not. They both left the pub in different directions. Peter and Trevor were driving home when Peter saw all of walking down a lane and asked Trevor to pull over as there was someone he needed to speak to. So like Trevor was just driving, Trevor didn't notice her, and Peter just happened to be like, that's that bitch from the pub, and he was like, hey, will you pull over for a second, There's someone I need to talk to, and
Trevors was like, cool, okay. As Peter got out of the car, he reached down to grab something. Peter then went down like the other side of the lane in an attempt to cush all of off so that like he would meet her as he passed all of He walked down with his head down so that she couldn't see him, so like she's coming up the lane way, he's coming down the laneway with his head down so that she won't cop who he is terrifying, and then he immediately turns around and he hits
her on the head with his hammer. Olive fell to the ground and Peter hit her a second time with the hammer. Peter then pulled down Olive's underwear and pulled out a knife. He then proceeded to cut her down there several times, like on her vagina, yeah, down in that, like, yeah, pretty much. A couple were parked nearby and they could hear a struggle, so they turned on their car lights to flash, what you know, to see like what's that noise going on? And this startled Peter and
he ran away. Olive had to undergo several life saving surgeries and she did ultimately survive. The next day, Trevor saw the report of all of the attack, but at first he didn't put the connection together, Like he didn't immediately go, oh, my friend, and no, no, no, I'm sorry, Okay, your friend comes back. He has to have at least some amount of blood on him, and he's carrying a fucking hammer. But it's like the middle of the night, it's like one am, and
he didn't see the hammer. And I do think a part of it, why it's a real case of oh, not my friend, Like, my friend couldn't do that. Not my friend Peter, who got with a sixteen year old when he was twenty one, and who I know for a fact is already assaulted sex workers in the past. Not him, Not him, though he's a good guy. On October thirtieth nineteen seventy five, Peter went
down to a pub in Leeds for some drinks. After he had a few drinks, he went driving around because now he's obsessed with the idea of killing a sex worker. He came across a young woman hitchhiking along the side of the road. Twenty eight year old Wilma McCann was recently divorced and had four young children. They were living in a small apartment and she had become a sex worker to try and support her children if she had to make a living.
Wilma's struggled with alcoholism and these would be the main two things that's sadly the press would focus on, of course, sing about her case. So a major problem with this case is that whilst this case is ongoing, whilst the Yorkshire Ripper case is ongoing, the press talk awfully about the victims. They talk about how they were sex workers, how they were per how they
were drug addicts or alcoholics. The press, the media put a very much emphasis on it was their fault for being there, for being sex workers, straight up victim planning. And it is years later the police departments do eventually apologize for how first of all, how the cases were handled, and then secondly, how it was all talked about in the press, because it's not
just the press making like these assumptions as well. It's like the officers who are like giving interviews to the press are like, oh, yeah, but she was a sex worker, so like she deserved it, right, guys, right, you know, and it is it's an awful thing to like see in here because you're like, first of all, it's their body.
They can do it with it what they want. And a lot of these people so you're like, the areas that they're enduring these times are dirt per and so it's like the only way that they can make a living and they have families to support. But at the same time, there's no supply without demand. So all of these men that are like they're disgusting, they are the demand, you know, they are the reason why there are sex workers. Literally. So Peter pulled over and offered Wilmer a ride home, and
she accepted. While on the way to her apartment, she asked Peter if he wanted business, and this let him know that she was a sex worker. The pair pulled into Prince Philip's playing field, which was approximately one hundred yards from where Wilma lived. Wilma got out of the car and she lay in the field while Peter got out of his car and took a hammer from his trunk. As Wilma began unbuttoning Peter's pants, he took the hammer and
he hid her on the top of the head. Peter continued to hit Wilma on the head with the hammer, quote penetrating the full thickness of her skull. Peter then took out a knife and began stabbing Wilma. He began stabbing her in the neck and fourteen times in the torso. The next day, a local milkman and his ten year old brother found Wilma's body. Oh my god, So this is Peter's first actual murder that he's this is his first, yes, his first murder, and before this he's just been attacking woman,
but he hasn't actually successfully killed anybody. They ran to the nearest house to call the police, and it didn't take police long to close off the scene. However, people in the surrounding area hired nothing and saw nothing the night before. Police didn't connect the murder of Wilma to the attacks of Anna and Olive. I don't even think they connected the attack of Anna and Olive yet, Like they hadn't connected those two attacks to one another, and then
they didn't attack. They didn't connect then the murder, which to me is silly because so far all three women have been attacked with fucking hammers and I'll have like vicious stab or knight wounds. Wounds. Yeah, so like it's the same m O. It's just this time he was successful in killing her. And it's like, how many people are being violently attacked in the area with knives and hammers like this women? I'd like to hope not that many.
Yeah. Same. The medical call examiner concluded that Wilma was more than likely unconscious after the head trauma, but would have very would have been still very much alive during this stabbins. There were traces of semen found on Wilma's clothing. However, it is believed that she was not sexually assaulted. That is where I'm going to end part one. In part two will get more into his killings. Um, there's a lot of them. There's a lot
of killings and attacks. So that's why I say it will probably be a three parter to get into him being caught in all of that jazz. So I just I can't like the fact that he masturbates over his victims. And the sick thing is is he like does it whilst they're dying? Yeah, so it's not even it's like, what does he have an attraction to? Is it the act itself where he just feels still rated and he's excited by that, or is it this site of blood and stuff because he obviously enjoys
being around the dead as well. Ye're an you know the dead that you're burying. I don't know. Yeah, so it's a weird thing to like what is it that's like exciting him? And he's still working as a mortuary assistant? Is he? And by this stage I think he is just a mechanic Now I don't care he am from what I remember. M he just then I think he eventually leaves that and he just kind of gets a job M like in like mechanics. The area that they're living in isn't the greatest,
so it's kind of more so whatever job he can get. Yeah, I know eventually he will go on to get a job as a lorry driver, right, Um, so he kind of I think is just whatever kind of job he can get his hands on is the kind of job he's working. He's like he never really keeps a job for all too long, so he's like bouncing from job to job. But like him, it's wild because like him and Sonia are like saving for a house and then he's just like
out killing people and you're like normal. Yeah, and again it's like the people who you always think are the most normal, but at the same time, to the people that were really close to him, like Trevor knew that he wasn't an okay guy, and his other friend also knew that he wasn't an okay guy. I do think proud of them, just like it's like you choose to ignore these things because like there's no way your friend could be a killer, do you know what I mean? H It's like they can't
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